Acura's Integra Type S Is Simply The Better Civic Type R | 2024 Integra Type S Review

[@rickoh7578]

The new format is a keeper, the review is as good as it's gets.

[@peanuts.13]

I like the extra wide POV at the bottom, but maybe reduce the texts into bullet points? for example, the 0-60 times could just be in bullet points instead of a paragraph. makes it easier to read & listen at the same time.

[@gbgary]

lift backs are greatness. kills the need to buy a small crossover...and that's always a good thing.

[@gbgary]

@@WinnersMind67 sedans do look better...but we're talking this versus a stinking crossover...that there are 20 of at every intersection. boring.

[@JayJay-he9bk]

A tlx with a lift back would be insane.

[@alexeivoloshin5984]

Lol... That's not why you buy a x-over 😂

[@gbgary]

@@alexeivoloshin5984 I didn't point out a reason people buy small crossovers. there are several...but if it's just the need for a little more utility (practical space) a sedan with a lift back is great. my Stinger GT for example. lots of back seat space (leg room, head room). cargo area is much more practical than a trunk. looks, runs, handles better than a small crossover. it's all personal choice and need. all I said was here's a good alternative for anyone wincing at the thought of buying a stinking crossover.

[@alexeivoloshin5984]

@@gbgary Lol... Nobody would ever x-shop a Stinger and a small x-over. So this is not a good example.

[@bigcrowfly]

11:21 I like your revised way of presenting the car. I did not feel a need to skip forward like for other reviewers.

[@jyoung11]

Haven’t seen Alex this excited in a while. Great job as always

[@cencio_1976]

Most likely this will be one the last manual transmissions on sale, so yes Acura did the right thing.

[@mahmoody8913]

Do you buy one?

[@Asiansxsymbol]

And it's one of the very best manuals ever made too.

[@mikemccormick6128]

@@mahmoody8913 I did. It's not in yet, but hopefully next week.

[@realnapster1522]

Problem is it’s too expensive and FWD.

[@mikemccormick6128]

@@realnapster1522 I like FWD compared to RWD because it's better in the snow. Many reviewers have stated that it feels different from a typical FWD vehicle because of the LSD which almost makes it seem like AWD. Hopefully, I will find out with first hand information this Winter. I've never in my life purchased a vehicle over $25,000 so this would be significantly more than double. Most of the cars I've owned have been FWD and this is arguable the best FWD vehicle ever built so I want my very last ICE vehicle to be special, which I believe this will be.

[@rightlanehog3151]

Alex, That's the best musical selection 8:11 you have chosen in quite some time. 🤩

[@paintedbird6791]

I am amazed by Alex's ability to shift gears and navigate corners with exceptional smoothness, surpassing even the most experienced driving-centric reviewers.

[@TheoPhilpot]

He is a car guy through and through.

[@slash11lipo]

When you grow up driving mostly stick shifts it's not something you even think about.

[@brooksbrooks8060]

And talk fluently at the same time. 👏

[@bassandtrebleclef]

Engine bay looks great! Seems like you can get to a lot of things without a lot of drama. Good for long term ownership and keeping costs lower for labor on repair work when needed.

[@Athandatu]

Absolutely love it, especially with a fastback. Makes it even easier to live with.

[@nickcivic21]

I would like to say thank you Alex between your video and soyban video I purchased a TLX type S 23 and I love it based on what scores you gave it you didn’t focus on HP Alone you spoke to the car and I wanted a conparission to the TLX and without a hiccup I got that right away thanks so MUCH

[@Quadirmiller]

The Type S looks amazing Acura needs this type of action to bring us back to the brand👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾.

[@Heres_johnny-012]

I like that you added the warranty info as well. Not everyone may need it, but it's a nice addition to all of the info 👍

[@anthonykiedis1765]

I've watched every major review on this car and this one is the best. Great job on being informative and thorough without all the filler.

[@mike9588]

Acura quite literally played into the future classic by giving it the manual and no AWD, also profit padding

[@MuffinMan0521]

I would have paid 15k more for an AWD system

[@guy5140]

I would’ve loved to see a AWD

[@quantttum]

Alex you're one of the most objective auto journalists on KZbin

[@brunobalestra]

I'm absolutely in love with that blue! Great car too.

[@CeeJay591]

Thank you Alex for an excellent review and I think the new video format is great.

[@stephendettman901]

Driving Sports TV just updated their in-car view and it works. Full screen view of driver's side A pillar + driver, with an inset view facing the driver.

[@diydrivenGA]

This is a great car but the pricing. As others have said you can get the reliability and NA feel of an IS350, or even a Supra/ M3 Performance that has been out for a bit and has proven itself to be quite reliable and great tuning platform, whereas the TypeR, while great, has had issues with cooling and their transmission. Either way, this is on the list, but hope dealers don't kill sales with markups and deposit avoidance shenanigans.

[@naveenthemachine]

The is350 is a lot more boring and the Supra of course is better because it’s a bmw. M3 performance is fast but there’s the Tesla build quality conundrum and the lack of CarPlay

[@curiosityredpill7030]

Can get a G70

[@realnapster1522]

Just get M2 at this price point or a used M240i with manual. They should have given it AWD to separate it from Type R.

[@beybeychannel1258]

Great review as always! Love the fastback, would like to have automatic or dual clutch and AWD options These options would further segregate itself from Type R Otherwise instead of stealing market share from the Germans, Acura might just be competing against its own Type R.

[@Athandatu]

I really like the new drive test layout. Keep it!

[@quantttum]

The driving format is good. The widescreen angles and the info square are great.

[@Jgjginkg244]

Seems like you are a reading my mine and saying all the things I wonder about. I had 1995 Integra Type S and 2003 RSX Type S and as much as loved those cars, I missed having a rear wheel drive vehicles especially on turns. When you said purity I wouldn’t agreed on two aforementioned vehicles but somehow I feel what you are saying about purity!! I really miss driving stick shift cars and I am looking for some fun car to throw around. Your review answered all the wonders and now time for the test drive. Thank you!!

[@TheBreakfastLover]

There was no Integra Type S in 1995.

[@azrwilkinson]

Seen this in person and man is this a sexy car! Turns heads for Sure

[@BarnabeeJones]

I could see this cross shopped with the Golf R as well.

[@TheChuckWolfe]

I agree, I wonder why the Golf R isn’t mentioned as alternative. (Is it just because the Audi is “luxury” like Acura’s positioning?)

[@eklektikTechno]

I own a 2018 Golf R now but I would definitely get one of these to elevate my styling. The type R is nice but still a little boy racer so this one would be my choice!

[@DM72513]

For this type of money I’d be buying a DSG MK8 Golf R. It’s a whole other performance bracket. 0-60 in 3.9 seconds stock. You’ll be blowing away $100K cars with just a 93 octane tune.

[@eklektikTechno]

@@DM72513 True!

[@mikemccormick6128]

@@DM72513 I've never driven anything faster than around 7 sec. So I'm sure going down to around 5 sec. will seem pretty great compared to what I'm used to.

[@deanm72]

Big fan Golf Rs. Keep it.

[@JamesRussoMillas]

I think it should've had some sort of Auto or DCT option but I think it's a "Type R Touring" kind of car. Hence Type S

[@atmartens]

I agree. I can only imagine the cost of development would’ve just added more costs and at that point it’s to close to the TLX Type S.

[@dannyllerenatv8635]

Yeah they probably could've added some revisions to the ILX's DCT, but thankfully Honda's MTs are excellent.

[@Kristoferwitha_k]

If you're going to buy it then yes as the German cars depreciate like dropping a stone and it's a Honda. It not gonna break down in 5 years. And parts aren't going to kill you on costs

[@quantttum]

Buddy, been watching you for years and for some reason KZbin stopped recommending you. I like the revised format. One minor note, that jacket you're wearing makes you look more professional.

[@mikefleming8675]

I put down the deposit on a reservation already! This CUV looks amazing

[@Mr99Burns]

This car is butter. Must test drive. The manual or so smooth and easy to drive. Power is excellent.

[@mr.numbers6174]

Alex if you put a black microfiber on the windshield the heads up display will show up real clear

[@tom11zz884]

Better Civic Type R is stretching it a bit. Most folks will like the hardcore nature of the Type R I'd wager that the Typer R is faster and more fun on the Track as well.

[@mikemccormick6128]

Why? Same engine, same transmission, same suspension other than the presets, 95% same exhaust, except that the Type S sounds better. I don't know why it would be faster.

[@MangelBanselmo]

It's been tested on the track, and I do believe the numbers pretty much mirror each other. One wasn't out performed by the other per se.

[@ashescat99]

Differences is type R is meant for the track. Type S is more street worthy.

[@aHairyBaboon]

Y’all please buy these so that i can afford to get one in 10 years

[@jimc5696]

“Dealer Markups” = game over. Just don’t have the patience for those games.

[@plneky1171]

I like the split-screen driving commentary. 👍

[@RunEmDownTony]

With the new Integra Type S, I feel as though the TLX Type S is obsolete. I mean The TLX Type S only has 35 more ponies and 44 lbs feet of torque more than the Integra Type S. The IT-S is lighter has more interior space, more practical, cost less and gets better mpg's. The only reason to get the TLX-S over the IT-S is for SHAWD and maybe if you really don't want or don't know how to drive a manual. Oh and the IT-S has a touch screen.

[@manahilkhan733]

I like the new format. It kept more engaged.

[@atmartens]

As an owner of a Acura TL Type S owner, I’m not going to rush to my Acura dealer to trade in for this. 50K is a little bit high. Yes, I think Acura did a great job on the design and performance but 50K is a bit much. Especially considering you could easily get a TLX Type S with SHAWD without crazy dealer mark ups. I know some won’t agree but I think they should’ve offered a DCT choice. I also can’t believe they don’t have memory seats… that would drive me up the wall.

[@TheFK8Life]

You want a fat old man car - good for you - this is not that. This is for drivers who actually push their cars not just cruising around in automatic that shifts at 3 to 4k 😂 The Integra is a beast on track - the TLX-S is a pig - overheats it'd brakes in less than 2 laps

[@raymondayeung]

​@@TheFK8LifeAgreed! The TLX-S is 1000 lbs heavier than this lol

[@Jasonboyee]

many of us want that 5th seat. like really, why cant they just provide a drop-down cup holder like every other sedan?

[@foobird02]

Bought one of these instead of waiting 2.5 years for the RS3 and the extra $15k the RS3 was going to cost

[@lionary]

2.5 years and $15k--for real??? Incredible. Bought ITS too.

[@GT-gt4bf]

I love this thing, I think they’ll sell every single one of them.

[@lamesamelame]

I'd buy one at MSRP, but every dealership I spoke to has 20k USD Markup!

[@mikemccormick6128]

Did you inquire on May 11 or shortly thereafter? I did and I'm wondering if that was the reason that I'm getting it for MSRP.

[@lamesamelame]

@@mikemccormick6128 I did it last week.I am in California

[@BadBackOz]

Looks great. I just can't get over it being front wheel drive, especially for a 50k+ performance vehicle.

[@naveenthemachine]

The direct European competition like the A3 CLA 2 series are also front wheel drive based ICYDK even with AWD

[@Soh90]

@@naveenthemachineThe direct European competition are FWD based but all offer standard AWD, more features, and are $5,000 cheaper. Acura fools you, Alex, and all the other people in this comment section. It’s a great car, but it’s overpriced.

[@naveenthemachine]

@@Soh90 what European car is 5K cheaper has more features? A cla 35 AMG can get a lot more expensive than the type s when you add options

[@Soh90]

@@naveenthemachine No mate, a CLA 35 is better equipped even in base form. I suggest you look at the standard equipment of both cars. Right off the bat the CLA has a power driver and passenger seat, memory seats, sunroof, better interior materials, and AWD. I cannot stress enough that I don’t think the ITR is a bad car. It’s just overpriced. The 2.0T is a volume engine that was used in the previous CTR and Accord Sport, the manual transmission was used in the previous CTR. The charm of Honda performance cars were that they were good without breaking the banks. So it was ok that they were sometimes underpowered, or maybe not as refined, or lacking features. Now they’re just expensive and lacking features all in the name of what? Honda’s so called great manuals? My Acura TSX chewed through 2 manual transmissions. Honda need to lower their price across the board by $5,000. Period.

[@TheFK8Life]

​@cesFree My stock clutch, stock trans, stock engine Type R is making 640hp You won't do this with a manual German 4cyl from BMW or Mercedes - hell can you even point me to a manual German luxury 4cyl that laps like the type R 😂 Awd sucks and is slower on track As far as fwd performance - the 2016 GT4 Cayman was slower than the 2017 Civic Type R at the nurburgring despite having more power, being mid engine and rwd. These Type R/S models are incredible on track stock and even better with more power. The front knuckle/suspension design is next level and is able to put down 1000hp - people just don't know what they are talking about as they have next to zero experience with these cars.

[@CRYFFX]

As always, great review.

[@d.l.tittle3071]

I like the layout. With the little info box. Great!!

[@Sacapuntas69]

That thing looks amazing. I just can't ever see buying ANY vehicle without a spare tire. I will never understand that theory how an inflator can replace even a temp spare.

[@mikemccormick6128]

Hopefully, I will never find out.

[@fridaynight9320]

i have been driving for 15 years and only had to use the spare tire once, its just extra weight otherwise. I can see why its not really necessary unless you live in the middle of nowhere

[@666chew]

Panoramic view is nice. Took a little getting used to though. I always wonder why the change? But this split screen w/you on top works, leaving the upper left for outside and/or stats to review. Despite all the talk about the joy of rowing your own, I feel Acura should come out with an auto next year. It would still work fine.

[@billystutz55]

Great review! Stoked it only comes in stick and all wheel drive would be cool but it’s not a huge deal. I also really don’t like the three way split screen at all! Way too busy

[@marinoint]

I'd never pay that kind of money on an Integra, not to mention the ridiculous dealer markup already on the existing regular Integra.

[@misterbondage007]

During the drive I think the POV should be bigger, possibly full screen with the Go Pro footage of Alex in a smaller picture-in-picture window.

[@fafafoly]

I agree

[@DaGAWD181]

Such a nice car!! Would love to hear the exhaust notes

[@aftermathmotomxrc]

@11:30 1st and foremost. Great review.. I have watched Thousands of hrs of reviews and follow a ton of channels. You got a good one. 🎉 Just one critique, (Take it for what it is) .... When using descriptive words to describe something like a glovebox, using words like small.. need to be used with numbers or a relation to an object we all use, because Shaq and WeeMan & You and I are all different sizes. Some of us are long legged with short bodies amd vice versa.. so leg room vs height is very relative. Just some word for thought. You Got a NEW SUB🎉., Keep Up The Awesomeness!!❤❤

[@johnsimms3693]

ACURA DID IT RIGHT THIS TIME!! All those german brands have gotten BORING .. If there isnt a 3rd pedal, im not interested

[@gundamtoshido9273]

If it also come with LogR app in the infotainment to record track record, it will be perfect FL5 clone, good video and 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@d3j051]

Integra looks very nice and if you only want a manual, it's the one for you. I would struggle justifying buying this over a much faster BMW 340I or 240I for my garage. I bought exclusively manual Hondas when I was younger, now that I'm older and have to drive in stop and go every day and the automatics are brilliant these days, I would stick with a brilliant auto over manual.

[@JuanCarlosLTO]

At minute 18 (paraphrasing) “the Type S has more room in case you want to take your friends on a windy road to the winery… and once you drop them off you can have some fun…” I hope you were DD for the day. 🤣

[@RamonLopez-xd9gx]

Good Car the Problem is that the Dealers Will overpriced Maybe 20k More , and the Financial part will be a Nightmare with the interest on 7% , Good Luck with that 😢

[@JakeRoot]

The griping over the location of reverse is absurd. I street parked my 6MT VW Golf for seven years (parallel parking) on hills in Tacoma, WA, and not once did it ever occur to me think that reverse should be anywhere other than immediately next to 1st, the gear that I'm probably going in and out of when parking. You make an easy U-shape with your hand.

[@goburma]

Alex, Great review overall as always in depth

[@normt430]

I'd take a CT4V for quicker times for the price!

[@mikem.2688]

it's priced at $58,328 here in Canada and we get fewer color combinations. Criminal.

[@waynerogers6621]

76000 in California after dealer markup Insane

[@Mr99Burns]

You’ll be able to pick these up at a discount in 6 months. 52k fora compact car that’s near luxury will be a tough sell. Car prices in general are dropping

[@jensendkmg7209]

For the new format, I don't think the forward facing camera adds much. OR perhaps cut to that dual view at like @15:20. When you're talking about the actual dynamics. Talking about other cars in the segment? Just stick with the cabin cam. Just my opinion. Love the videos.

[@adim00lah]

Hell, it BETTER be for 8k more!

[@racergregg]

As someone who has tracked his 2.4l TLX w/ the 8spd DCT, I don't know if it could stand up to the torque of the K20C1 or meet the fun mission w/ its reliance on a torque converter (like a true auto) for 1st & 2nd gears. The TLX has thrown trans oil cooling warnings after a handful of laps and would be an Achilles heel during a track day or Time Trials with their Integra Type S.

[@AnthonyWreckz]

Do you have any basic mods on the TLX? I have the same car

[@racergregg]

@@AnthonyWreckz None other than 18"x8" ET43 OZ wheels and Michelin Pilot 4S tires...and 20+ years of club racing experience.

[@racergregg]

And as far as the torque converter goes, it's just painful with a capital "P" trying to dig out of slow corners while you wait for it to lock up.

[@DELICIOUSORANGECHICKEN]

It’s weird to see a Non Ev video on this channel!

[@gerarddion4859]

Nice review as always, Alex! This car seems excellent, but there are a few glaring omissions in a car in this class like a power passenger seat even if would you be only two way. Also, a memory driver seat and ventilated seats should be standard. Lastly, I think there should be an automatic option.

[@JPZ89]

Should just go for the tlx type s if you're looking for more feature content

[@killacamfoo]

Very cool car considering the drivel that comes out these days.

[@rowanyuh6326]

20k more for 40 more horsepower

[@niveketihw1897]

Wish it wasn't such a big boat. Only 2 inches shorter than my S550 Mustang, which is like driving a tank.

[@housepianist]

It would be quite interesting to see what kind of car this could be with a dual clutch and AWD. Acura did do the right thing by keeping it a 6sp manual and FWD but outfitted with the former, this could be a real rocket ship! However, I wonder if the so-called “fun factor” of having a MT is what the overall car market really wants. There will of course always be driving enthusiasts who prefer manuals but on the street, the competition isn’t pining over who has a car with the greatest involvement factor when stopped at a light. It’s always, without fail, about straight line performance and all-out power - who’s the quickest/fastest. From what I know, there is no “medal” for the best driver engagement.

[@garrettw99]

Excellent review on an excellent car. I like the new driving format.

[@raldyjimenez3319]

wish it has a doughnut spare tire at least...so this is riding on ran flat tires i presume. SHAWD would have been a nice option

[@rizzlerazzleuno4733]

Great review Alex. 👍👍 Nice they have a liftback, but I'd buy one if they made a station wagon. Just amazing how much hp & torque can be got from four cylinders without overstressing the engine. There will probably be an EV version in a few years that will blow away this ICE model. For 90% of the public front wheel drive is A-OK. If I lived in the snow belt this would have to be a no-snow time of the year car.

[@justsa2360]

By the looks of the seats giving a hunch that the type R is in progress

[@lionary]

Alex always excellent.

[@naveenthemachine]

If you think this is disappointing you can do so much worse The integra looks very promising and Acura is really stepping up their game

[@potatochobit]

until you see the mark up price at your local dealership.

[@naveenthemachine]

@@potatochobit yeah but I’m sure just about every other car will be marked up too

[@mikemccormick6128]

@@potatochobit That's why I got in on the pre-sale.

[@99-Zulu]

At $50+k I think I'd rather spend an extra $5k to get a base TLX Type-S that comes with AWD and a twin turbo v6. Sure you get better fuel mileage but if you are looking for performance than the TLX Type-S is the way to go when its only $5k more.

[@janoycresnova9156]

Absolutely, not to mention a much nicer interior with more luxuries.

[@JPZ89]

Twin scroll single turbo on the TLX-S. Not a twin turbo.

[@99-Zulu]

@@JPZ89 You should probably update your info. It's a twin turbo v6.

[@AnthonyWreckz]

​@@99-Zulu it's a single turbo, "twin scroll" not twin turbo...

[@99-Zulu]

@@AnthonyWreckz My mistake. You guys are right. It is a twin scroll, single turbo v6. That's my bad and I apologize for it.

[@DavidLee-ic4wh]

I can’t comment on whether Acura made a mistake in not offering an all wheel drive option but I can say that I would be buying this car if it was AWD. Not for the driving dynamics but because I need it in the winter. I’m not a fan of the electronic parking brake. It should be a handle you pull up.

[@radiogreenblue]

Great review!

[@ArchieOnEarth]

At $50k, it ought to have a DCT option and a/c vents in the rear. Actually, same goes for the regular model.

[@Notadrianmonroy]

Or ventilated seats too!

[@TheFK8Life]

This car is for drivers - DCT is a no go

[@AbuBawa-sw1ut]

rear ac vent is not needed

[@TheKingkingg]

Awesome car and reviews

[@xmunitrader]

torn between this and the Audi RS3 which I know you loved. The white ITS with Bronze wheels and few other bits that I like puts it at 55k vs the RS3 I priced out at 65k . hmmm Addtional thoughts assuming can place an order for either one and obtain at MSRP with no mark up? thx Great review

[@Marbind]

Integraforums has a thread with a list of dealers selling at MSRP.

[@falkin42]

I think I would disagree that three point turns are easier because I prefer reverse next to first. But I've disagreed with you about that for years. 😊

[@palangicdino]

I just realized that Acura logo looks like the Star Fleet logo from Star Trek.

[@pbentsonable]

Only things I don’t like is that it’s manual transmission only, no moonroof and interior color. 😢

[@WolfyTime]

I like the Integra a lot, but I feel like Acura missed out on not including a sunroof on the Type R version. Sports variants back in the 80s and 90s always included a sunroof because they were meant to be driven on the road and not track (see original M3, Civic Si, etc.). Even the most recent Focus RS and Golf R offer/ed sunroofs because they understand that these are meant for people who want to drive back roads with their windows open listening to the engine and enjoying the wind. Honda has lost the message on the Civic Type R and I believe it is lost even more on their luxury version of the car when it is the only Acura without a sunroof.

[@TheFK8Life]

None of the Type Rs have ever had a moonroof - it raises the center of gravity, adds weight and reduces chassis rigidity. Honda owners care about performance and the Acura Integra Type R had OPTIONAL air conditioning and OPTIONAL radio. As you could order them without to lighten the car You clearly don't know Hondas or their owners. The mid grade Integra GSR had a moonroof as did the Si Civic. Both the Civic and Integra Rs remove luxuries and even offer base model Rs with fewer features to remove weight/cost aka Club racer versions with steel wheels and cheap seats so race teams can add their own gear.

[@WolfyTime]

@@TheFK8Life as a longtime U.S. Honda owner (original 1st gen Honda Accord hatchback, CRX Si, refreshed CRX Si, Del Sol, and Acura TSX Wagon) I do know what the owners want. Most Type R Hondas did not come stateside. US owners have traditionally wanted the extra luxury. You make a good point regarding the current Honda Type R's track focus and the fact that the old Type R Integra did not have a sunroof. However, Acura is their luxury brand and there should be a sunroof and you will find that complaint all over Integra forums and other websites.

[@TheFK8Life]

@@WolfyTime I don't care about their complaints - Acura is only going to make 400 of these a month - the majority of people running their mouth won't own one. Anyone who buys this car has the money to add a simple moonroof. This is a softer Type R for street use. Slightly better daily but still geared towards a Honda tuner like me. My FK8 is making 640hp and I'm throwing a ported head this week to make over 700hp on a factory Honda engine with stock cams/bottom end. This car is for guys like me - it's not for slow guys who want to keep it stock and slow. My FK8 doesn't have a moonroof and I don't want it- they end up leaking anyway lol replace the seals, slider motor etc just another headache - dead weight. This is probably the last ICE manual Integra offered - piece of history really. The self driving automatic everything with massage seats will come soon enough - I'd rather be actually driving and enjoying the car vs just letting the computer drive me home at the speed limit. Buy a tesla for that - soulless appliance for boring people who don't enjoy actually ripping their own gears.

[@WolfyTime]

@@TheFK8Life anybody who buys this car doesn't have money to deal with the issues you run into when modifying the car to have a sunroof. A sunroof is a long-standing standard item for old school fast versions of street cars because they are viewed as back road cars. The M3 has always had it (not CSL), Focus RS did, and Golf R. I certainly think Honda is concerned by what tuners want, but I imagine they want to sell their whole stock which requires more than just the tuner community. Your current project does sound pretty cool though.

[@TheFK8Life]

@@WolfyTime The msrp of my car was 39k and I paid 52k - they were asking 60k for mine and 75k for the LE version Wheels and tires are easily 3 to 4k depending on brands. Basic bolt-ons are 4k - larger drop in turbo is 2500 to 2800 - fuel system is another 5000 for direct injection only fuel supply. Hell some guys are spending 3k on valved exhaust systems and 5k for titanium exhausts A moonroof is cheap if anyone really wants one. The Supra? No moonroof The new Z? No moonroof Cayman? No moonroof Emira? No moonroof People spending 95k+ for a 4cyl Cayman don't get a moonroof? A luxury performance car without a moonroof? If was just an appliance a moonroof would be offered like it is on the lower models of the Civic and Integra .....the S/R models are about performance so the enthusiasts who are in that market - especially long time Honda racers like myself....no moonroof is a plus. I can buy anything I want and chose the R - if this one doesn't get a built motor 900+hp my FL5 civic will - keep my FK8 as a daily/street car and build the FL5 to 1000+hp for half mile/roll races. These cars will be electric Hybrids the next go around as Honda electrifys the lineup and I have no interest in EVs ....if it doesn't have a manual trans from Honda I probably get myself a pdk or dct car from another brand. I had considered the GT4RS Porsche but 180k msrp plus 100k markup just felt silly - now my R will embarass one easily 😆 The money I saved buying an R over other track car options has allowed me to play with it and push its limits with zero regrets. 3100lbs - 700+hp and room for 4 ....very practical family car for me 😆

[@jermainec2462]

I guess they wasn't planning on selling too many of these because there's no automatic transmission option or dual-clutch automatic ...

[@atmartens]

Theyre only planning to build 400 a month for the first year.

[@jermainec2462]

@@atmartens thats keep depends high

[@TheFK8Life]

Nobody cares about people who buy automatics This car is for actual drivers

[@jermainec2462]

@@TheFK8Life yea 4 of y'all dont care about ppl who drive automatics ...we get it ...

[@atmartens]

@@TheFK8Life Okay, you say that until the car is discontinued because they couldn’t sell any. Where as an automatic helps sell more and would keep it around.

[@djsir901]

2 big problems with the Type-S. #1 they removed too many luxury features (memory seats, sunroof, back seat, etc) to justify $52K. #2 it's going to be cross shopped with the Civic Type R, Golf R, GR Corolla, WRX, etc. The customer that can afford $52K is either looking for something much more luxurious or much more sporty (Supra, Nissan Z, etc).

[@curiosityredpill7030]

G70

[@TheFK8Life]

I paid 52k for my 2021 R - it has 640hp now and soon to be 700+hp Guys like me have the money for this car and Type Rs have sold for 75k+ which means I'm not alone. This isn't for the random pleeb who will keep it stock and putt putt around town in his automatic coffin with a badge on it. They are making around 400 of these a month and all of them will sell at msrp or well above. This chassis/motor combo can easily make 1000hp+ and be a riot - if you know, you know.

[@mikemccormick6128]

I don't think that this car competes with the Supra or Nissan Z. Front wheel drive and 4-seats make the Type S more practical. I don't think I would trust a rear wheel drive vehicle for winter driving.

[@mikew6554]

Dealership markup will be there but I'm guess it'll be closer to $5K markup vs the $25K markup I'm seeing in the twin cities metro area on the Type R (saw an FL5 for $70K and a FK8 for $60K -- both used).

[@mikemccormick6128]

OMG. I thought the $15,000 from my Honda dealership was horrible, but $25,000 is on a whole other level. That's why I'm glad I got in on the Type S pre-sale. I have to ask my Acura dealer if they will be charging mark-ups now that the pre-sale is over.

[@con2719]

Prefer the old format. Acura should have put a DCT, ventilated seats and a sunroof. Manual gears are a pain in the ass with heavy traffic!

[@rickeybradley2635]

I'm anxious to see what it will do on a track.I still think the FL5 will outperform it there.

[@schmo7777]

So in Canada it will be 70k to start. Apply taxes dealer fees looking at 80k! I make 100k a year after taxes and deductions 50k. Would need a second mortgage. Car prices are nuts now.

[@frumpd63]

No sunroof, no heated steering wheel, no memory seats, no cooled seats, manual passenger seat, no +R gauge layout for $53k? No thanks.

[@milkymilkyisacat3154]

Have to say it is a brilliant package. Well done Acura/Honda. However, it is sad that the car is NA only. Bugger, Acura/Honda!

[@bikingmoments]

Pain points: lack of sound insulation, not-so-efficient mpg figures, crazy thin tire walls… How on earth can dealer mark up this thing? Sell it more than TLX Type S lol?

[@mikemccormick6128]

It is not true that it doesn't have sound insulation. It's significantly quieter than a Type-R.

[@VeyroneR]

My dream car.

[@drivesanoldcar]

Acura went the right way bc if they had the awd dual clutch it would lose the PURE feel. Thank heavens there is no moonroof! Also kudos for not slapping on plastic whell fenders. I hope this trend will end soon, like cauliflower. What I do not care for is the ipad screen. IT should be in-dash... also ditch plastic ducts in front. I cannot see the benefit.