All CELESTION CREAMBACKs vs the VINTAGE 30!

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Kohle Audio Kult

Kohle Audio Kult

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@mephias3984
@mephias3984 2 жыл бұрын
I remember always arguing with my Grandma about speakers. While I was more of a fan of the Creambacks and their slightly more vintage sound, she always loved the brighter sound of the Vintage 30's like the ones used on the first 3 "Decapitated Goat" albums. "Those V-30's are more METAL than your Nana's hip replacement!" she'd say to me. Often times we would get into fist fights over which speaker would be better suited as just a "blender" tone. But I must say, she always stuck to her guns and never compromised her values. I'd always tell her, "Nana, one of these days that brutal death metal tone is gonna kill you!" And then one day...it did. Rest In Peace, Nana. 😢
@BobbyJamesCote333
@BobbyJamesCote333 2 жыл бұрын
🤔💯🤘😅
@brgl61
@brgl61 2 жыл бұрын
Dicks out for Nana
@CelestionUK
@CelestionUK 2 жыл бұрын
Nana knows best \m/
@mad7stringer
@mad7stringer 2 жыл бұрын
Jeeeez.... it's hard for me to fathom that 30+ years later I'd be referring to Suffocation's Effigy of the Forgotten as "your grandpa's death metal" lol
@snapascrew
@snapascrew 2 жыл бұрын
Dude what the hell
@hamilcara
@hamilcara 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing video, thanks! One thing that I like about darker speakers is that we can rise the highs at the amp and get that "gain/distortion effect" that some amps have with that knob, without the guitar sounding thin on a band situation
@phantomflame0658
@phantomflame0658 2 жыл бұрын
Yes absolutely thats exactly what I love about dark speakers. We can crank the hell out of the presence knob which gives you this airiness when playing clean, and this huge grind when playing heavy gain. This is why the g12m-65 is my all time favourite speaker
@phantomflame0658
@phantomflame0658 2 жыл бұрын
I have the g12m-65 and its an absolute beast of a speaker. The main thing everyone misses is they try to A/B it with a v30 or t75 or H75 and no wonder it sounds super muddy and dark. I like how you changed mic positions to give it a chance, but I believe the real difference is cranking the Presence knob. Since its a dark speaker, you can run super aggressive settings that you wouldn't normally be able to get away with. In high gain metal you can achieve an incredible GRIND that is out of this world. I tried the outro song in drop A on my Tokai explorer with EMG85x bridge pickup, into MXR Sugar Drive as boost, into Egnater Renegade amp, into g12m-65. Unreal tone, so heavy
@anthonysmith9057
@anthonysmith9057 2 жыл бұрын
Heard the first chord out of the G12M-65 and instantly thought, that’s my choice. Love the more vintage sound.
@MarcBecker_Music
@MarcBecker_Music 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. You are always spot on with the description of the character of the respective speaker. This is a gift. I still struggle to describe what I hear sometimes. Thank you, Kristian.
@davidrodriguez6493
@davidrodriguez6493 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for staying true to your ideals and showing us how mic position changes for all sorts of speakers - and allowing us to hear the true value in their construction!
@thisistheway5343
@thisistheway5343 2 жыл бұрын
I keep falling deeper into the wonderful rabbithole that is guitar speakers and it is a lot thanks to you, sir! With that in mind, I think you almost owe me a speaker by now, considering how many you made me buy! Love these videos, keep'em coming!
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 2 жыл бұрын
Im digging and deeper and deeper too! It’s so much fun!
@adamwatson6916
@adamwatson6916 Жыл бұрын
I have also fell down the speaker rabbit hole and it find speaker swapping much more effective and much more rewarding then pickup swaps.
@devinwilliams4038
@devinwilliams4038 2 жыл бұрын
Yo, that’s awesome you’re giving away the M one. That was actually my favorite sounding one. I’ve been thinking about trying a creamback out. Love the vids man!
@mad7stringer
@mad7stringer 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah me too... I want that thing!
@robcox2553
@robcox2553 Жыл бұрын
Super badass speaker review. This is the best-sounding representation I have found of these speakers. Ridiculous. You crushed it.
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult Жыл бұрын
Great to hear that!
@saarangnarayan123
@saarangnarayan123 2 жыл бұрын
I loved how you changed mic positions to explore the sounds for each speaker. This is sorely missing in so many speaker demos/comparisons. My taste in tone is really maturing thanks to you, Kohle!
@davu9027
@davu9027 2 жыл бұрын
Always loved how creambacks sounded! I think it's time to bring them on more records
@owenjohnston33
@owenjohnston33 2 ай бұрын
Huge respect to you for telling us when you're putting filters and EQ on the speakers. So many people neglect that fact, which can be very deceiving for tone seekers like myself
@ChrisStarkGtr
@ChrisStarkGtr 2 жыл бұрын
I've been pondering an upgrade to the speakers in one of my 4x12 cabs and the Creamback G12H-75's and V-30's were the top contenders. It was super helpful to hear them A/B'd and has definitely helped me make my decision (going with the Creambacks because I already have a Mesa 4x12 full of V-30s). Awesome video as always!
@timaadland1460
@timaadland1460 3 ай бұрын
I did the same thing and replaced half my V-30s with G12H-75 Creambacks. Big improvement! But when I split the wiring and compare the two speaker types, I find myself liking the G12H-75 Creambacks a lot better than my V-30's so now I'm thinking about swapping the other V-30's for H Creambacks or Alnico Creams. More on that as soon as I can afford more Creambacks or Alnico Creams.
@doctersound9630
@doctersound9630 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again for another amazing video! G12 Neo was my favourite. It was the most unique. Plus has the benefit of being lightweight as well as being more precise for the Chooga Chooga! Neodymium is strong and makes the attack, punch and speed of the speaker cut through the mix. Love it blended as well! Cheers🍻 and beers 🍺 🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
@hatsubaichuu
@hatsubaichuu 2 жыл бұрын
Always felt the Creambacks were slept on heavily by metal players who only ever want to use V30s. My buddy has a cab with them, and they sound killer with some amps! Good stuff
@mhoff7722
@mhoff7722 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! I've always loved the combo of a V30 and the G12H Creamback in my 4x12. They just seem to balance each other out so nicely. Would love to try the G12M. 🤘🤘🤘
@adamwatson6916
@adamwatson6916 Жыл бұрын
The V30 and Creamback M is an amazing combo m very balanced and fat sounding but surprisingly clear. The combo of the creamback M low mids and V30 upper mids is a very full and balanced tone . The top end has a nice bite but is also rounded and smooth. The V30 bass keeps the somewhat loose bass of the creamback in check . It's an amazing pair for vintage tone where you need higher powered speakers. This paring is also very vocal sounding and has alot of Character . It's a good combo to split the difference between vintage and modern but does lean more towards vintage. The creamback M and H paired is Pure vintage .
@R.Stridstrom
@R.Stridstrom Жыл бұрын
Some say that the secret/magic-sauce is the G12XC-30 + V30, but i think a + H-75 cream would be interesting to try out. The only one i miss. But i will get it & try it out.
@mhoff7722
@mhoff7722 Жыл бұрын
@@adamwatson6916 Very cool. Appreciate the feedback! 🤘🤘🤘
@MeatSteeple
@MeatSteeple 8 ай бұрын
I've viewed 10 or so review vids on these speakers to help me decide on a purchase, and your review here is by far, BY FAR, the best review I've seen. G12H it is. You rock, dude.
@Thenamelessoul
@Thenamelessoul 2 жыл бұрын
Very well made comparison!! It´s interesting to hear the sonic differences. I have a V30 at home and now i want the G12M-65!!
@RiffDaddyDave
@RiffDaddyDave 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! I love the way you presented each speaker and A/B them. I have a Bogner 2x12 with the V 30 and 65 Creamback. It’s my favorite cabinet! I’m thinking about adding a 65 to my 2x12 EVH!! I look forward to seeing more from you! 👊🏾
@komollb
@komollb 2 жыл бұрын
still amazing how drastic of a difference the speakers make to the guitar tone. well presented as always kohle 🤘
@hoborec
@hoborec 2 жыл бұрын
Really cool shootout Kristian! Good to educate costumers that there are more variables than just the colour of the back. My favourite was the G12M actually. Maybe a less finished tone but it really resonated with me. Thanks for a great video 🤘👌
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 2 жыл бұрын
I thought you were the M type of guy Ulf, haha! 😇
@saflex1
@saflex1 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I love your speaker comparisons. Way better than most comparisons on KZbin where people either don't know how to record properly or where they overproduce the video with post-eq :D keep up the good work!
@docdis1980
@docdis1980 2 жыл бұрын
The M version sounds great. Probably the most balanced for less gainy tones and might be a nice match for the iso cab I'm planning to get for home studio use.
@patrickbradburn8415
@patrickbradburn8415 2 жыл бұрын
I think this guy can make any speaker work for metal tones. The first Creamback sounded great to me.
@orica77
@orica77 2 жыл бұрын
Great Comperation. I always been a fan of a V30 calssic sound, but the G12 Neo sounds a blast! I guess it is a matter of taste after all... Thanks for the great video as always 🤘
@mikep3773
@mikep3773 2 жыл бұрын
This video came at a great time, was wondering which CB’s to load in my cab! Always the best content 🤘🏼G12H-75 was my fave but the G12M-65 sounded really amazing as well. I was enlightened at the huge difference between the ceramic and neodymium, great video!
@ioannisstavropoulos4319
@ioannisstavropoulos4319 2 жыл бұрын
All these speaker videos just show how important they are although we tend to overlook them! Great job!
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 2 жыл бұрын
That’s my gospel! 🤪
@Hazeyone7977
@Hazeyone7977 2 жыл бұрын
Loved the sound of all 3. The M has to be the better sounding to me. Thanks for the video!
@music7studios
@music7studios 2 жыл бұрын
I may be alone on this, but I liked the blend of the Neo with the V30. I could tell when you played an example through the blend that it would translate well in a full mix. That being said, a lot of these are situational, meaning that different speakers and/or mic positions may suit different guitars (6, 7, 8 string-etc) moods, and even different guitar players, depending on the situation. It also never hurts to experiment, if you have time on a project to do so. Thanks Kohle for this amazing video, let the metal and the music flow!
@michaelkrieg8550
@michaelkrieg8550 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison of those speakers, I learned a lot about the differences between the M and the H version. My favorite from what I heard in this video is the G12M Creamback 😍
@givemeajackson
@givemeajackson Жыл бұрын
one of the best guitar speakers. just so much less grating than the v30. maybe not quite as forward and cutting in a live mix, but there's just so much balance.
@chacha134
@chacha134 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always. Love hearing how much of a difference the speaker makes with the same amp. That G12h sounds sick but crazy how my ear is so used to the v30 given how it’s essentially the gold standard
@bretfuzz925
@bretfuzz925 Жыл бұрын
It’s never as simple as it seems. The guitar, pickups, amp, cabinet, effects, musical style all play into the sound.
@HiFiWright
@HiFiWright 6 ай бұрын
I really do appreciate your commentary on the speakers. You have really good flow and dont try to use unnecessarily sophisticated or "big sounding" terms which tends to make videos lag and takes away from the content context regarding sound and cohesiveness in having a clear understanding as a viewer. You just get straight to the point in a clear and cohesive manner that gives a good visual image of how a sound might translate to preference or style. A+ in that regard Now, although your descriptions of the V30 and the H Creamback were spot on, I'm going to have to respectfully disagree with you on the M-65 watt Creamback. You are correct in that it has a "darker" sounding presentation than the other 2, but I would argue that darkness only applies to the upper midrange bite and in-your-face presence. It actually has MORE upper end clarity or "air" than the H Creamback by a long shot and I would argue, having that alone, puts it in a more similar tonality for the highs as the V30 as opposed to the H-75 watt version- which, to me, has the non-smooth upper midrange bite or bark that I dont like minus a bit of the V30 "sizzle" or (more appropriately) "brilliance". To me, the M-65 basically scoops the upper mid bark and bite and then picks back up at the tip top of the brilliance range that the V30 overachieves with and has a similar upper high register that gives them both a sense of openness or airy top end quality, just more laid back with the M-65 since it still scoops some of that V30 brilliance i mentioned. I personally hate the H-75 but I feel as though a hybrid cab of equal parts V30 and M-65 speakers might be the answer to having a great all around rhythm tone, especially for some tight but thick, full bodied thrash that is not tuned far down. The M-65 can add the lower midrange fullness that the V30 lacks as well as balance out the sizzle of the V30 to a more balanced level as a result of the scoop there with the M-65 Creamback as well as its very textured midrange. Perhaps this only can really apply to, say, C tunings or higher whereas a strict V30 setup would still reign king for anything lower. For perspective, another way to think about the positive the Creamback 65 watt can bring to the V30 for metal- is the fact that its OG version (similar sounding too), simply the G12-65 heritage model, was THE speaker used for the entirety of Metallica's Ride the Lightning and Master of Puppets albums, among many other 80s metal acts as well. Jim Marshall loved them and all but made them exclusive as the driver option in the Marshall cabinets from that late 70s and 80s era. I'd be fairly confident in trying that mix i mentioned above. Instead of people trying to replace the V30 for its excessive sizzle, its most likely a better option to throw either that M-65 in with it or the heritage G12-65. The 75 sucks, though, in every iteration, for my tastes 😂👍🏻👍🏻 Again, thanks for your comparisons and I will check out some more of your stuff based on your style of presenting, even if solely on that, which I doubt will end up being the case. Excellent job, good sir👍🏻😊🤘🏻
@sethhutch9012
@sethhutch9012 2 жыл бұрын
I really like the h version. Some how you always put the content I'm actively looking for out at the right time haha thanks Kohle
@SinNameOn
@SinNameOn 2 жыл бұрын
First of all - great presentation as usual. About a year ago I was looking for a replacement of the Celestion V-type, which was fitted to my Marshall by default and unfortunately raped my ears with exaggerated high frequencies. After a deeper research, I chose G12M Creamback just due to its vintage character. I mainly play classic rock, so this speaker worked best for me. Well, maybe it's time to build a 2x12 cab ;) Anyway, I highly recommend the creambacks M and H.
@pawekutre4095
@pawekutre4095 2 жыл бұрын
I can only confirm, for blues, rock and Marshall amps Creamback M is the best choice.
@GioGuitarDude
@GioGuitarDude 2 жыл бұрын
@@pawekutre4095 Do it bro! I did the same thing… I went from a mesa boogie 4x12 with v-30’s to a repurposed car subwoofer box 2x12 with a Neo creamback and g12m65 creamback. I coated the whole inside of the 2x12 box with bar top epoxy to make it more solid and it’s pure joy. The v30’s were absolutely horrific to my ear holes.
@jaredpettit3279
@jaredpettit3279 2 жыл бұрын
You're a beautiful human Kristian. Thank you for making these speaker videos!
@lazerbeard5792
@lazerbeard5792 2 жыл бұрын
Watching your videos have helped me find an awesome guitar tone for my band. Thanks!
@bobbyguy913
@bobbyguy913 2 жыл бұрын
Great job as always man! I think the G12H was my favorite!
@latelierpunk1348
@latelierpunk1348 2 жыл бұрын
Hallo Kristian! Ich war in den letzten Zeiten auf der Suche nach einem neuen Speaker und hatte zufälligerweise auch in die Richtung der Creambacks gelauert. Dein Video war also genau das, was ich brauchte! Und wie immer hast du es toll gemacht. Danke :)!
@darrylwhitesall5847
@darrylwhitesall5847 Жыл бұрын
Thanks, Kohle! Great, thorough video. This helped a lot to hear the differences in the speakers. ❤
@mjlagerwerf
@mjlagerwerf 2 жыл бұрын
Gotta love those creambacks! I only have IRs of these types and basically use them in different combinations. Personally I enjoy the Neo, as a blend to add some bite to dark sounding amps or speakers. On the other hand, I have no clue what I'm doing but somehow I get the sounds I enjoy 😋
@jeffpike2992
@jeffpike2992 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this. Nothing wrong with either speaker, but the air of the Creamback is cool.... Sounds like it transmitted the upper harmonics better too.... Would be a fun speaker to solo with.
@reynaldocuevas6543
@reynaldocuevas6543 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and explanation on how the speakers were compared. I had been looking at the Neo Creamback to put in my 4x12 and reduce some weight, so it was great to see the variances in the range and how it performed for metal guitar.
@joelchabot3170
@joelchabot3170 2 жыл бұрын
So much parience doing all those tests for us! Huge thanks!
@UnearthlyViking
@UnearthlyViking 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Kohle for being a great teacher and an inspiration for us aspiring metal producers. Cheers, my friend! 🍻
@DimaLew
@DimaLew 2 жыл бұрын
Hello! Thanks for your videos! In my opinion, V30 is still the best choice, but for modern metal, you can mix H12 into it.
@dorienlewismusic
@dorienlewismusic 2 жыл бұрын
Hi Kohle, here's my nice comment. Your channel and especially your video on tone (comparing the rectifier with a rockerverb I think) caused me to set out on my personal tone-finding journey. I have thus far bought an ENGL Ironball 20 and two amps on the used market (a Valvestate and a Tiny Terror). Im absolutely loving it and I think it's doing the songs I wrote justice, but maybe one thing I'm still missing is that Creamback G12M-65 in my Marshall cabinet :)
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 2 жыл бұрын
Great to hear that! 🤪🤘
@vigorianer
@vigorianer 2 жыл бұрын
Great tests, that's exactly what you need to create your sound. I also watched the other videos. Very helpful.
@TheStrykerProject
@TheStrykerProject 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I love the Neo Creamback, myself. I put one in my Marshall DSL20 Combo and mic it off-cone, about midway between cone edge and speaker edge. As the rhythm guitarist, the sound blends quite nicely with the other guitarist. The combo amp is much lighter now, too. 😉
@lucianorosario5851
@lucianorosario5851 2 жыл бұрын
How went that change,the zizel disappear in the gain mode?
@TheStrykerProject
@TheStrykerProject 2 жыл бұрын
@@lucianorosario5851 Great question. Actually, the speaker really helped with the mud in the low end. To my ears, it tightens up the low end and brings up the hi-mids. I suppose one could still get some nasty zizel, if presence and/or treble are too high.
@judasxchrist
@judasxchrist 2 жыл бұрын
Informative and entertaining as always, dear Kohle! I'm a fan of the CB H75, have it myself in my small 1x12 coffee and played a Herbert through a 2x12 Coffee loaded with them against some other options (V30/K100, alone and combined) - liked the CB H75 the most. There is something about that added low mid chunk while being not too far from the "rich" sizzling V30 midrange. Great amp and cab choice for this comparison btw, compliment each other very well imo!
@jerryarmitage8904
@jerryarmitage8904 2 жыл бұрын
I love your explanations for the sounds. Absolutely great.
@Mike_HuntizWet
@Mike_HuntizWet Жыл бұрын
I have the Mesa vertical 2x12 I swapped the upper v30 with a Creamback H75. Love it!! Smoothed things out nicely
@PK22-b7v
@PK22-b7v Жыл бұрын
But the H75 is actually quite bright .... how did it smooth things out ?
@Mike_HuntizWet
@Mike_HuntizWet Жыл бұрын
@@PK22-b7v Couldn’t tell ya how or why. Just that it did
@gr070491
@gr070491 2 жыл бұрын
This Is my dream video! Creambacks are my favourite speakers. I use the H version in isolaton in my 1x12, and the Neo combined with a greenback in my 2x12. This way they sound fantastic. I also like to use creambacks IRs and blend them with IRs of v30 etc etc... So to me, the One that sound the best Is the H version. It has that fantastic flavour, like a v30 that as something "broken" or "Rotten". Absolutely amazing
@VentureNW
@VentureNW 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for covering these. I just started looking into swapping out my Seventy/80 and have been watching your videos on several of these. Really stuck on that Veteran 30 and that DV-77 also caught my attention. Was actually reading up on Creambacks.
@Joey.Darkwoods-Studio
@Joey.Darkwoods-Studio Жыл бұрын
Glad I found this one... I am looking into a new cab and one of the culprits is loaded with the creambacks G12M's. I really like it!
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 2 жыл бұрын
Which one s your favorite? I'm more than curious! 🤔
@rnhtube
@rnhtube 2 жыл бұрын
I much prefer these to greenbacks, which can sound stuffy and broken. Mixes great with v30 and tons of others. All of them a great for slightly different tastes. I got the neo cuz they had the least bass and the cab I was putting them in was too boomy. Your mid knob will actually have an effect if you turn it up or down with these! "Ready mids" I guess. Also I love the weight. I'm a skinny weakling but I can carry this 412 all by myself now. Thanks for the video.
@brozio77
@brozio77 2 жыл бұрын
i like a lot g12m-65 and h75, neo not so much, vintage 30 sounds good
@shanem.3568
@shanem.3568 2 жыл бұрын
Really liked the G12M after the mic was repositioned
@SpendCroof
@SpendCroof 2 жыл бұрын
Man check my last video. I have created massive sound with 10 inch speakers.
@gettothegear2900
@gettothegear2900 2 жыл бұрын
G12M 65 sounds amazing
@jimfischer5670
@jimfischer5670 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, as always. I have always wanted to try a cream back but never really wanted to just buy one. Now that I watched this makes me want to swap speakers out of my JCM 900A cab. I think V30s and Cream backs in and X would sound killer.
@joancordero3104
@joancordero3104 2 жыл бұрын
Yup the G12M has an awesome midrange! Thanks for the awesome speaker shootouts!
@robertosalgado1809
@robertosalgado1809 2 жыл бұрын
Each speaker has a great sound, very usable for lots of stuff! Great video as usual!
@Daveour
@Daveour 2 жыл бұрын
Nice comparison video. I'd like to see your take on 12" speakers versus their 10" equivalent. I know that WGS makes some 10" versions of their classic 12" speakers. Also,can 10" speakers can do metal. I'd like to see your take in this. Thanks for the awesome content.
@ChrisLee2001mc
@ChrisLee2001mc 2 жыл бұрын
I use and V30 and a g12t-75 at home, was looking at trying out some other speakers. I would probably keep the v30 and pair it with something to compliment it.
@StephaneBergeronPixelyzed
@StephaneBergeronPixelyzed 2 жыл бұрын
H Creamback all the way for me! I really love its midrange. I have two of them mixed with two V30s in my Marshall 4x12. Best of both worlds and they sound amazing mixed together. If I only could use one it would be the H Creamback.
@AD1978leo
@AD1978leo 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear that because I just ordered 2 for my Marshall cab to mix with the v30s
@miserypath
@miserypath 2 жыл бұрын
Finally I could watch the video! Great as always, this is the way speaker comparisons are to be done! I like the H version for the Grindstein Song the most but for something like doom metal or even guitar solos the M version would be a great choice.
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 2 жыл бұрын
I agree!
@williamdesilva67
@williamdesilva67 2 жыл бұрын
Bing bong... I've currently got a 212 with a dv77 and v30 that I set up based on an older video from u.. thank u for the idea.. I love it.. I wonder if the creamback in my 412 would make it sound better than 4 regular g12 h 75 old school junkers.. might be exactly what that needs..
@KaddysJamKave
@KaddysJamKave 6 ай бұрын
Pretty cool video and while the H creamback seems to be the winner in this video... in the room, for me... it's just a bit TOO present / spikey... the M 65 creamback is more balanced. And as you pointed out... if you put the mic closer to the center cone you can get a better "mic'd up" tone on the m65. Clear winner for me overall.
@dlankfordtcob2647
@dlankfordtcob2647 2 жыл бұрын
🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼 always awesome learning from you. Your the reason I have guitar warehouse Reaper and eminence red coat in a slant can. And dv-77 2 12cab. I’ve been want to mix a creamback and a v-30, but didn’t know what creamback would be best. You Fukin Kick Ass for helping the world find killer Metal Tones!! Thank you 🤘🏼🤘🏼🤘🏼
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 2 жыл бұрын
So cool to hear that! Always happy to help! ❤️🤘
@dlankfordtcob2647
@dlankfordtcob2647 2 жыл бұрын
If you ever do any classes or anything cool in Texas USA let me know, I’ll be there 🤘🏼🤘🏼
@pedrodyck95
@pedrodyck95 2 жыл бұрын
I think blending the M version with the Neo version would sound amazing.
@thomasfoster4091
@thomasfoster4091 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@troeteimarsch
@troeteimarsch Жыл бұрын
g12m-65 at 21:43 - I really liked how the sound of the speaker brought up the mids of the entire mix more into your face.
@cockroachotr
@cockroachotr 2 жыл бұрын
Super Video, vielen Dank auch für den Tip per Mail zur Kombination von Lautsprechern. Ein interessanter vergleich wäre den Creamback Neo mit Creamback G12M zu kombinieren.
@ScottyShipps
@ScottyShipps 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been thinking about getting a Creamback H, & you just convinced me! Thanks! 🤘🏻🎸🔊🎶
@johnhehman
@johnhehman 2 жыл бұрын
I dig the slight flub of the M, after you moved the mic to brighten it up, sounds killer!
@TonyLaMarca2manygadgets
@TonyLaMarca2manygadgets 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely like the H the best of those three speakers. Great video Kohle!
@jeffreyschroder8004
@jeffreyschroder8004 2 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed the speaker comparison. I'm not, really, a techy, but know the sound I like. I prefer the G12H, but will take that M of your hands, without a problem. 🤘😎🤘
@i.l.mod.3968
@i.l.mod.3968 2 жыл бұрын
I just wanted to thank you for all the great info ! In the 90s the only way to discover was trial and error it got very expensive so kust a quick THANK YOU !!
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 2 жыл бұрын
I feel your pain about back then! You’re welcome!
@alessandrodefalco7592
@alessandrodefalco7592 2 жыл бұрын
Great video as always, love the speaker comparison videos. Probably the H was my favourite, that said I liked all of them, even the neo, especially against the very much overdone v30. I would love to have a pair of these to put in my 4x12 blended with my jensen tornado stealths (wich I bought after watching one of your first speaker videos). Keep up the great work!
@emobutpoofy
@emobutpoofy 2 жыл бұрын
My Mesa OS Slant/Straight 412 sounds absolutely fantastic with two H75s in an X pattern with the original 2000s Mesa V30s. I have a M65 in my recto 212, 16 ohms so the brightness of the 16 ohm speaker balances out with the darkness of the more vintage voiced speaker. And the result is a smaller cab that sounds similar to my 412 while providing surprisingly better sounding clean tones. Now I'm watching this to decide on what to put in my new Mark III combo
@qua7771
@qua7771 Жыл бұрын
I have V-30's, and H75's in a Marshall 4x12 as well, and I'll agree that these two speakers belong together. I'm surprised that more people aren't doing this. I'm personally not a fan of either speaker on their own, but together they sound fantastic, and can cover a wide range of music.
@bryonlvdm
@bryonlvdm 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and exactly what I needed to see, as I'm looking to replace one or both of the v30s in my Orange 2x12. I do have a Revv 2x12 cab with a V30 and G12H and it sounds killer.
@davel_ggw
@davel_ggw 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comparison! As someone who is more into classic rock and metal, but also some more modern stuff, the G12H-75 blended with the G12M-65 could be cool.
@hjl4754
@hjl4754 2 жыл бұрын
I really love the sound of the M version, it would be so useful for what I do, I've learned so much from watching your videos, my mixing has improved by leaps and bounds, I really appreciate your videos my brother 🤘🤘🤘
@Spajeightysauce
@Spajeightysauce 2 жыл бұрын
I want to hear that Creamback M paired with V30s! 🤘🤘🤘🤘
@BrantleyAllen
@BrantleyAllen 2 жыл бұрын
I really love the speaker demo and the current focus on different speakers and their sounds. Dangle Dangle!
@666frodo
@666frodo 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison as usual. I like the G12H most from those G12 especially after apply the filter.
@nicholastotoro7721
@nicholastotoro7721 Жыл бұрын
The M65 seems like it works better with a more Marshall-y circuit or something brighter and more vintage. I have a a M65/V30 combo in a Bogner OS 2x12 and it sounds fantastic!
@JimijaymesProductions
@JimijaymesProductions Жыл бұрын
I always find it weird that Marshall only put t75 and v30s in their cabs when part of the that classic Marshall tone is greenbacks h and m.
@Paul_Lenard_Ewing
@Paul_Lenard_Ewing 2 жыл бұрын
According to John Suhr who tested the Neo Creamback it sounds scary close to the old Brit made Greenback. I use a 50 watt Plexi and the 60 watts of the Neo is perfect for my single 12 light rig for clubs. I use a Traynor Y-CX12 cab. It is slightly wider to accommodate my Marshall sitting on it and slightly deeper because they tuned it to give you a 4x12 resonance /thump. I am surprised because the sound doesn't seem at all compromised. It's a proper baltic birch cab. Cab and speaker together was $440.00 USD ..not bad!!!
@DEADLINETV
@DEADLINETV 2 жыл бұрын
The shitty thing with your skills and ears is, all of these sound awesome! Yes, they have a different character but man! Anyone should be and would be more than happy with these sounds and this level of production! Thanks for sharing!
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not doing any magic here! It's just a 57 and a pair of ears.
@DEADLINETV
@DEADLINETV 2 жыл бұрын
@@KohleAudioKult I know! That's what makes you great! (I'm not sucking up here, I just genuinely like how you hear)
@deadboz6007
@deadboz6007 2 жыл бұрын
I have here an Celestion Creamback NEO for combo JCM 50/25. But the combo is out for repairs (tubes and so on ...) ... I might be interresting how the Creamback compares to a G12H Anniversity. Thx for your usable comparsions!
@fallencrow1936
@fallencrow1936 2 жыл бұрын
Great content as always
@DontWorryImAPilot
@DontWorryImAPilot 2 жыл бұрын
Dang. I liked that H magnet version a lot. I guess I know what I'm sticking in the disconnected spot on one of my 4x12s. Thanks for the comparison, Kristian!
@DontWorryImAPilot
@DontWorryImAPilot 2 жыл бұрын
When you got to the trem picked part of the song, I couldn't help but feel like the M version would be great if you were making something in the Deafheaven - "Sunbather" ballpark.
@palmmoot
@palmmoot 2 жыл бұрын
I love the G12M-65, but I'm also really into doom so when you called that out later in the video I felt justified! Can't get enough speaker videos Kohle
@eoinc_Ire
@eoinc_Ire 3 күн бұрын
Just watched the Jensen Tornado SE shootout, and noticed you had to move the mic further out on that too. Is it the neodymium speakers have more mids further out?
@FortSoundStudio
@FortSoundStudio 2 жыл бұрын
Für mich war der Creamback der Ideale Speaker zwischen Greenback und Vintage 30. Mega spannend fand ich den vergleich mit dem NEO 🤘. Auf jeden Fall ein nices Video um mal vergleichen zu können. Darauf nun gleich erstmal ein kühles Blondes 🍻
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 2 жыл бұрын
Stimmt. Liegt irgendwo dazwischen!
@mjbdough7920
@mjbdough7920 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely was surprised at how much mids the H75 had! Everyone seems to say it’s scooped but your analysis seems to prove otherwise.
@plumbummusic2051
@plumbummusic2051 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting... I wasn't liking the tone of the G12m all that much by itself, but in the mix it definitely gels better. I would only dial more treble or presence for extra sizzle, but that's my taste.
@seanmorgan9020
@seanmorgan9020 2 жыл бұрын
The Marshall Vintage speakers are interesting too, kinda like the missing link between the Greenback and V30. Anyway, fab video as always and I can't wait to mess around with the Creamy Bois.
@joshblair4951
@joshblair4951 Жыл бұрын
This really helped with my dilemma of which speakers to load in my new cab. Thanks!
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult Жыл бұрын
Great to hear that!
@wwebombe
@wwebombe 2 жыл бұрын
Wie immer hammer video und nen echt interessanter Vergleich. Nehmen grade unser erstes Album auf und der creamback würde doch noch mal für einen etwas interessanteren Klang an den Gitarren sorgen 🤔
@ThefabulousJF
@ThefabulousJF 2 жыл бұрын
You did it - you compared Creambacks! 🤩 I'm an M guy and would love to hear it in combination with the V30 (making it more round/fat?) and in coparison with the DV-77! But just yesterday 2 DV-77 arrived (yes, that's your fault ;-)) and will find their place in an Orange cab with V30s. Rock ON!
@KohleAudioKult
@KohleAudioKult 2 жыл бұрын
Haha! Enjoy the 77s!
@garywalker8067
@garywalker8067 2 жыл бұрын
Great shoot out, I liked either of the normal magnet but thought the neo was a bit mmmm not for me. And yes I would love to take the speaker from you! 😀
@justinbradley5803
@justinbradley5803 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. Thx. For me i don't like the Neo, if I had a 2x cab I'd probably combine the H and M and blend. Keep up the great work.
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