The 2006 is what our V30's actually sounded like. The 2022 is what we thought our V30's sounded like.
@joeb3590 Жыл бұрын
Ha!!! Totally agree with you.
@SpectreSoundStudios Жыл бұрын
Nailed it!
@nafis6668 Жыл бұрын
No wonder why my friends V30 sounds way too harsh compared to my new ENGL cab. Good to see mine has that transparent cap.
@simonp9471 Жыл бұрын
Mind blowing comment. I think I had a Randall from 2007/2009 or so with V30's. I hated it with my 5150. It was overly harsh sounding. I always wanted a more clearer, chimey but still high gain sound. Great tone you dialed in here man!
@FurtiveSkeptical Жыл бұрын
Heh sounds about right, but at the end of the day.... They got the V30 they wanted I guess. 🤟
@chuckmaymusic Жыл бұрын
Any legit reason for the misleading title? I'm missing the part where Celestion ENDED the Vintage 30. You do a very thorough demonstration which has value and that might make me subscribe to see your other content....but the 'bait and switch' titles so many channels use to boost views is a deal breaker for me. If you're going for a sensational clickbait title, why hold back? Why not 'Celestion's new MONKEY SKIN cone material'?
@Brian-qg8dg2 ай бұрын
Your ending was funny. Keep it up
@gerardoromano34362 ай бұрын
Lol, this is what youtube is now. A bunch of clowns counting the views and subs to see if they make 10 cents more this week LOL.
@vedrankosoric4857Ай бұрын
Clickbait
@LambChopper678 Жыл бұрын
Great video mate 🤘🏻absolutely love your brutal honesty
@jasonkinder6441 Жыл бұрын
That is quite the improvement. I'm interested in seeing the dust cap on your 2006 V30 being removed (and possibly replaced with the new one) for comparison. That would let us know if it is indeed the dust cap causing those terrible tones.
@bestevaer1977 Жыл бұрын
I was thinking the same thing!
@julijusgirdenis Жыл бұрын
Wow what a difference! If I've heard this without the labels, I would've thought these were completely different models. Also I didn't even realize how bad the 2006 V30 sounds, until you compared it to 2022 V30. 2022 V30 just sounds so much better. Thanks for the video, greetings from Lithuania.
@SpectreSoundStudios Жыл бұрын
It's not a subtle change, that's for sure!
@spenalis Жыл бұрын
labas
@StratEdition Жыл бұрын
Insane how you plugged it in, and the sound that came out was so very familiar to me.
@toddmcmurray222 Жыл бұрын
What a huge difference in sound. Thanks for sharing this Glenn.
@bigrick666drum Жыл бұрын
The difference is incredible. That first tone was instantly fantastic
@alvarg Жыл бұрын
Sadly itll be a while before the cabs in store have the better sounding v30
@MrSmiley1964 Жыл бұрын
It'll be even better with 6 months of heavy gigging.
@billzade8158 Жыл бұрын
Can't wait until the vintage 30 is an unknown again and people are like "Hey, have you guys heard these before?"
@joeb3590 Жыл бұрын
Omg yes
@skatterpro Жыл бұрын
But... why? Does it matter? Use what sounds good to you, not because of its obscurity, popularity or some other crap based on other peoples opinions.
@cdawg-switchhitter2473 Жыл бұрын
Yeah right by that point everyone will either be a pop singer or playing through a laptop
@KaldDodeGitarist Жыл бұрын
You're talking about guitar players. Guitar players are relentlessly unchanging. They will never let v30s be forgotten
@joeb3590 Жыл бұрын
@@cdawg-switchhitter2473 LMAO
@TheOligoclonalBand Жыл бұрын
The new one makes the mix sound like early 2000s/late 90s. Good job, Celestion!
@SpectreSoundStudios Жыл бұрын
Agreed, Celestion did a fantastic job with it!
@Kevin.Kelly. Жыл бұрын
@@SpectreSoundStudios Hey Glenn, can we get a comparison of these new ones vs the original 90’s versions? Would make for another amazing video. Thanks!
@XChristianNoirX Жыл бұрын
@@SpectreSoundStudios I think what you guys mean is more like... Thanks for not being f'ups anymore and going back to normal! Took you rejects long enough! 😂 Can you imagine how many people have been unhappy with their tone thinking they've been doing something wrong with their mic placement and having the wrong gear all this time? Buying expensive preamps, mics, and multiple cabs and just sucking? Personally I went in a journey that has made me buy over 10 freaking cabs until I figured it out. Thanks Celestion, for making my life a money pit nightmare with crap tone, because you guys made some manufacturing changes to save a few cents and then told everyone they were the same.. Lies!
@kevinsheppard2312 Жыл бұрын
@@Kevin.Kelly. I would absolutely love to see the 2022 against the 2001-2003 V30s as well as the 90s ones too!
@yvesfellay43432 ай бұрын
No....
@heatnationwpb Жыл бұрын
Holy balls Glenn! Once you showed the comparisons in a mix at the end here I couldn't believe JUST how bad the 06's are vs the 22's! If I didn't know better I'd have sworn there was some eq fuckery going on there. Having watched your content for some time now I knew there'd be a significant difference, but I wasn't expecting THAT much difference. Just unreal! Kudos to Celestion for finally getting it right (again)! Thanks for this man. Just like your playing, your vids just keep getting better & better.
@jasoncrump1886 Жыл бұрын
Got me a v30 a few months ago and paired it up with a dv77 in my evh 2x12 and it's awesome sounding. Really digging both speakers individually and together. Appreciate the vid brother man.
@kospandx Жыл бұрын
This also raises the question: did Celestion step up their game with any other models?
@Ben_the_Ignorant Жыл бұрын
Yes, the Creamback's 45 and 65.
@SpectreSoundStudios Жыл бұрын
The new EVH is fantastic!
@bulletproofzest Жыл бұрын
The Creamback Ms are about the only new speaker from them I've heard that I like as much as the vintage Greenbacks. They don't have that sweet top end breakup thing going on that Pulsonic Greenbacks have, but they sound amazing. For modern metal they rule. I'd like to slap a pair of these V30s in the cab with them. I was hesitant because I actually have six UK V30s, but I don't like those at all as they're too dark, but I also hate the spike in the ear sound of what we've gotten the last ten years out of the V30. This is really encouraging. I'd previously had a Rivera cab from the 90s with the most amazing V30s I've ever heard. Unfortunately my guitarist ruined them and I had to have them reconed, and they never sounded the same. These 2022s sound like what I remember. Damn!
@kospandx Жыл бұрын
@@SpectreSoundStudios That is great! I bought some Greenbacks ca. 2008, and they have never sounded right to me. Comparing them to the EVH Greenbacks might be fun.
@BOBANDVEG Жыл бұрын
I have an orange 20rt. It's got the "voice of the world" speaker. Which is a celestion with a slightly larger mag for natural gain . Made on the same line in the same factory. Even the clean has a little sauce on it
@TheGregSobek Жыл бұрын
Hell yeah! I honestly hated the V30's due to it's upper- mids sounding like a taser. It seems that they finally found the solution so I'm happy to give them another shot. Thank Glenn!
@joshfairbanks33 Жыл бұрын
I’m blown away, a V30 I actually enjoy. Every time you switched to the 2006 I screamed “RESONANCE” internally. I was relieved with the 2022. Thanks so much for the work on this video and for pushing for a positive change Glenn, this opens up some upgrade options for sure. Great to feel like customers are heard.
@woochyna Жыл бұрын
Really nice sounding blend, I'm impressed. Good job, Glen.
@MichaelDespairs6 ай бұрын
lol Blend?
@lightiskalkin Жыл бұрын
The v30 really is old, but it still kicks ass. Kinda like an old war vet
@JoshyyJay Жыл бұрын
Yeah or that ole hooker at the truck stop suckin em like pro that started out at the strip joint
@jcrosslin8 Жыл бұрын
I know I'm in the "what the hell is wrong with that guy?" minority here... But I NEVER liked V30s. They always sounded great on everyone else's records, same with the Mesa Recto heads, but I just hated the ones I've owned. I always preferred the 1960 cabs loaded with Gt-75's. Everyone thinks I'm an idiot whenever I say this, and every impulse response I've found of the 75's is AWFUL, but man those cabs... muah! I just found them to be much warmer and overall midrange focused, and that helped them sit in a mix more cozily I.M.O. You fucking rock G!!
@christophermurphy71136 ай бұрын
TOTALLY agree with you! G12T-75's all day every day!
@SatansLeadGuitarist Жыл бұрын
Glen "IM SO SICK OF V30S! EVERYONE HAS BEEN USING V30S FOREVER! NOBODY CAN THINK FOR THEMSELVES!" Also Glen "So Celestion sent me one of their new V30s and it sound great!"
@SpectreSoundStudios Жыл бұрын
Yes, it's almost like the SOUND OF THE SPEAKER actually CHANGED!!! Sorry that wasn't glaringly obvious. Next time I'll spell it out in finger paints so you can follow along more easily.
@SatansLeadGuitarist Жыл бұрын
@@SpectreSoundStudios Hey! I don't even own a bass!
@russianvideovlogguy Жыл бұрын
Bro is jealous as hell you got a free v30 lmfao
@SatansLeadGuitarist Жыл бұрын
@@russianvideovlogguy well yeah, I would love to get give free gear. Wouldn't you?
@markusaurelius77728 күн бұрын
@@SpectreSoundStudios Hahaha Love that comeback ...LMAO !!!!
@thisdyingsoul762 ай бұрын
I have a 90's V30 sitting in a closet that I plan to put into an Egnater Rebel 1×12 cab. I also used to have one from sometime after 2010 that I put into a Marsball 2x12 cab with the 90's one. When I sold the cab, I put back one of the Seventy Eighty speakers it came with and then kept the 90's speaker. I always assumed the difference in the speakers was due to the 90's one being more broken in. My other cab has 2x10 in the top and another 90's v30 in the bottom. This is the most amazing cab I have ever owned. The 10's are some sort of Eminence speaker. The pairing with the V30 makes for a very thick and detailed sound.
@PooNinja Жыл бұрын
I’m sure there’s more changes inside. There’s a lot of weird physics to go into voicing a speaker. I’m just glad it sounds like they got it right this time.
@SpectreSoundStudios Жыл бұрын
Hmmm.. well, we did a visit to the UK factory & that's the thing... there's not a lot going on inside.
@Fergieguitar Жыл бұрын
And give it time to break in.... interesting it's that good right out the box!
@PooNinja Жыл бұрын
@@SpectreSoundStudios not a lot of stuff it’s a pretty basic actuator. I spent a lot of time in the audiophile world testing and listening to all manner of drivers and whilst I’m not sure what all goes into “voiceing” a driver but I know this every detail makes a difference. When you make a stew you have plenty of room for a few ingredients to be sub par but when you make something like hollandaise sauce with just butter, eggs, lemon juice and salt (I add cayenne) you wanna have top quality ingredients assembled with care or the sauce breaks and your left with a gritty oily slime that has the mouth feel of eating the sound of a ( insert your least favorite Driver here). I’m still leaning towards buying some neo creambacks for my next project.
@PooNinja Жыл бұрын
@@Fergieguitar YES especially those bass players! My Sunn 412 loaded with G12T-75s was toured with as a bass cab for many years before I bought it. I’m quite sure that’s one of the reasons I liked how it sounded compared to the other cabs they had in the shop.
@soundmattersuk Жыл бұрын
@@PooNinja I have an old Peavey Butcher 4x12 with those in. That's supposed to be a bass cab as well. It's a fair bit bigger than other guitar cabinets, so it might be for bass guitar after all. And yes, it does sound pretty good.
@brandonwilcox9316 Жыл бұрын
That new speaker sounds killer. I have a 2002 mesa cab withwhat’s supposed to be the “golden era” of v30 and it’s noticeably darker and fatter than any newer v30 loaded cabs I’ve ever used. The new 2022 v30 just based on your demo clips sounds a lot like my old 2002 recto cab. Less shrill highs and more of a full fat tone. I’m really impressed and glad to see celestion getting their shit together.
@MrGuruYoda Жыл бұрын
I have a mix of stock eminence legend v12s mixed with vintage 30s in my Soldano 4x12. They actually pair really well at taming the spikiness, I didn’t even realise they made them differently over the years until I saw your video, very informative 👌🏻
@matitheteacher Жыл бұрын
Last month I bought a V30 for my solid state Fender Amp. The original generic speaker sounded too bright and I did not like it. I followed your advice and I spent my money on a great speaker. There were only a couple speakers available in my country. I thought about a Greenback or a Creamback because I usually play rock, pop or blues but they did not have them. Finally I bought the Vintage 30... Wow!!! Dude, it sounds amazing!!! Great mids and bass and the bad top end is gone. Great for playing live, I bring just two guitars, a couple of pedals and the small Fender with the V30. It sounds glorious. Thanks Glenn!!!
@truckerallikatuk Жыл бұрын
In before Glenn's playing gets him a copyright strike... The perils of getting better.
@SpectreSoundStudios Жыл бұрын
lol!
@rafaelallenblock Жыл бұрын
@@SpectreSoundStudios also come back after putting some hours on the new driver and it's broken in
@TheAxe4Ever Жыл бұрын
When it comes to speakers, the doping is important, the surround and cone is important. The spider is important. The magnet is important. But the voice coil is key! It looks and sounds like they have redone the voice coil. Glad to see Celestion listened to the many many people complaining about the sound of their V30’s coming from China. Sound pretty damn good. But, I’m more of a greenback guy so for me, the G12 EVH is king! I’ll bet the new V30 would mix well with the G12 EVH!
@JensArildWestmoen Жыл бұрын
I got this reply from Thomann now: Dear Customer, thanks for the inquiry! There are no chnages on the Vintage 30 speakers.. see reply from celestion: " There is an ill-informed video out on KZbin, which at the end says how wonderful the ‘New’ Vintage 30’s are. He thinks there has been a recent change to the dustcap. There are no changes to the design or the components of the Vintage 30. The dustcap has been the same for years. There are a few speakers still out there from 15 or so years ago that sound different from what people might expect. But thanks to ever tighter quality control that no longer happens, the video simply illustrates that if you buy a new one, it’s going to sound great, and exactly the way it should sound." So what are we suppose to believe? It clearly sound better in your video
@philippemartignier9858 Жыл бұрын
maybe his 2006 is so old/used that it sounds like shit? it is strange indeed. I look at the V30 I have. 2003 Uk, 2005 Uk, 2006 Uk, 2020 Chinese and saw absolutely no change in dust cap. I found indeed strange that they change something in 2022 and make no announce about that???
@Producer_Jeff Жыл бұрын
The 2022 sounded so much better overall especially for rhythms, but surprisingly I thought the leads actually sounded pretty cool through the 2006 v30. 2006 might still be useful for recording solos that stick out of a mix a little more.
@reiniervanzwieten7092 Жыл бұрын
Damn i feel like the diffrence in the mix is even bigger. It just makes it sound so massive and fits perfectly with the rest of the instruments
@matzemunz2827 Жыл бұрын
Whoa Glenn!! Apart from the terrific sound, there was some serious vicious picking going on! Me as a dedicated rhythm guitarist I'm very impressed by your picking hand action lately. Also this is how you can figure a good tone. With actual chords and licks, not with senseless fiddly biddly. Now please pair the new V30 with a Greenback.Greetings from Germany P.S.: how dare you testing a brand new speaker?! They're supposed to be broken in for 209654h. /Sarcasm
@SanDimas234 Жыл бұрын
I would have said the same thing about speaker break in but I bought a new amp for the first time in 20 yrs and it definitely didn't sound like it did when I tested it until about two weeks later. It definitely smoothed out a bit.
@Stpddmbfck Жыл бұрын
No need for sarcasm, breaking the speakers in makes a very noticable difference. Thats not even a discussion actually.
@godofspacetime33311 ай бұрын
@@Stpddmbfckit should be a discussion. I’ve never seen any tests done that show any difference before and after. The only one I can find shows no difference after burn-in, and the differences between the “burnt-in” speaker and the control stayed the same. Everyone’s got a story about how their new speakers sounded like shit but slowly got better and now they love them, but until I see any actual shred of evidence I’m chalking that up to people just getting familiarized with how those speakers sound. I thought my studio monitors sounded dull and muddy when I got them and I couldn’t mix particularly well on them, but after about 20-30 hours using them I think they sound great and my mixes have improved dramatically. The thing is, the speakers were used when I got them and already well-worn.
@baffiniguitar Жыл бұрын
WOW, massive improvement! Great job Celestion! Great video (as usual) Glenn!
@gaetanclybouw Жыл бұрын
Thank you Celestion for making Vintage30’s great again 😂
@Anvilshock Жыл бұрын
For the 2006 V30, Line 6 Spider's "Fried Assholes" preset comes to mind.
@joeb3590 Жыл бұрын
Yessir
@jonathanmeyer1164 Жыл бұрын
I never would have thought that something as little as the type of dust cap would make such a huge difference on the same model speaker. And who knows, maybe they did something different with the voice coil wire as well. Either way, it sounds huge. Thanks Glenn for once again driving home the point, that the speaker is the most important part of our guitar tone.
@kodykindhart5644 Жыл бұрын
Sim away from dust cap sometimes on a track and see
@tommilitello198 Жыл бұрын
A terrible sounding amp will still be a terrible sounding amp regardless of the speaker
@lurmirari Жыл бұрын
so now all we need is SMG IRs for this speaker :D also jesus christ i was expecting some difference i definitely wasn't expecting it to be night and day, that's nuts
@Emanuel_Flores Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the free IR! :)
@firdeye2681 Жыл бұрын
Love when Glenn talks about bands like carcass and alestorm which I love haha. Good stuff as usual man love this video format
@SpectreSoundStudios Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed!
@zAvAvAz Жыл бұрын
7:38 8:15 new international V30 vs the complaint speaker 12:13 13:15 Back to back in a mix comparison! 14:50 if you also notice the ridges are ever so slightly more pronounced on the material of the main cone
@big_ol_ball838 Жыл бұрын
yes, noticed the ridges as well. if im thinking right it should allow it to vibrate wider? causing a little more low end?
@alexhuevera939 Жыл бұрын
FREE hand picked speaker = Great Review, NOT Surprised
@countzero1972 Жыл бұрын
Awesome T-Shirt.. Billions and Billions. RIP Carl !
@puppyy780 Жыл бұрын
I controversially say that the new V30 sounds killer all around, lead or rhythm and the old V30 could potentially be nice for just lead tones since they do have that "icepick" sound. That's just me, I noticed that in the comparison when he hit those leads towards the end. Might be something to consider!
@RasCuban33 Жыл бұрын
I use my Line 6 cab with V30s when I want that Randy Rhoads “Icepick” Altec tone.
@OEpistimon Жыл бұрын
I get you. It's usually good to have a different tone for the lead to help it cut through the rhythm guitars anyway. But holy FUCK did the 2006 not sound good for rhythm...
@mbvglider Жыл бұрын
The thing is, though, you don't need an icepick cab to cut through the mix. You can always just aim the mic straight ahead and use one mic. If you have a pretty sounding tone, also, you can add EQ without worrying about introducing nastiness; nasty sounding speakers limit your ability to perform EQ.
@DeaseNootz Жыл бұрын
no controversial. Glenn is just a dork.
@farkenfigjam8732 Жыл бұрын
I think this is the first time I have actually liked the sound of a Vintage 30. There's definitely a big difference in sound, especially in the mix! I really liked the A/B comparison. It was like night and day. Also would you be able to do a studio tour sometime? Seeing the cab room actually got me very interested in how you have it all set up.
@Starcrunch72 Жыл бұрын
Bought my first set of V30's (212) in 1993. They were fantastic for Blues and Classic Rock. They started getting tired by 2005. I chased the speaker dragon for a while, relented and bought a new pair in 2010 and was not happy. Downsized to 112 and used an Eminence Red Coat, worked well for me.
@lookingforheather Жыл бұрын
I can tell you , as an owner of a NEW vintage 30 , things have improved. I absolutely love this speaker. Did the upgrade a few months ago with one of the 2022 models and it rips.
@OfficialKevinFox Жыл бұрын
Such a massive difference. The V 30 sound to me has always been too harsh. Maybe not anymore. Thank you🤘🏻🤘🏻
@alrecks619 Жыл бұрын
i think that the newer vintage 30s have that "4k" which JoeySturgis and Co. have been joking about for quite a while, also the fact that it doesn't really as grinding as the older vintage 30s because of the scoop.
@strange_logic Жыл бұрын
Wow, I thought I'd be straining my ears to hear the difference but it's huge. These 2022s are amazing, grabbed that IR, thanks so much.
@aliensporebomb Жыл бұрын
The difference is stark. Especially in the midrange.
@allendean9807 Жыл бұрын
I think it’s a carryover from players who have live rigs vs. studio players. A mid focused 30 is what you need to push a crowd in the face, and I’d take a MUSTAINE 1960DM cab loaded with 30’s all day on stage… Yet, i agree, when tracking my guitars, a 30 impulse is my last choice. 😮
@Lewis_Emblack Жыл бұрын
I find that a few V30 impulses sound great but most have that harshness, and I could never figure out how IR's with the same cab, speakers and mics could sound so totally different - it makes sense now that the few great ones were likely done with pre-2006 speakers and the rest done with post-2006.
@marvinrockon Жыл бұрын
And that's most likely thanks to the dust Nolly got off the V30 topic with him nerding out on it. It's insane how much Nolly influenced the metal scene: Darkglass & Bass tones, Dingwall, now after every metal producer and guitarist listened to his preach about the difference in V30s, it got enough traction for Celestion to make a change. Absolute insano style alpha.
@jaroswave Жыл бұрын
Insaneo style!!!!!
@alrecks619 Жыл бұрын
tbf the ding glass dark wall is quite a breath of fresh air compared to the scoop machine aka sansamp but as the saying goes "if a man found something that worked for him, everyone will also try to find it"
@tungtobak Жыл бұрын
@@jaroswave Stop trying to make insaneo style a thing Joel!
@marvinrockon Жыл бұрын
@@alrecks619 It was, for sure. Now everyone uses Darkglass/Parallax and Dingwalls and i got bored by it. Looks like in terms of bass we can only have one thing at the same time.
@stevesorrell9835 Жыл бұрын
Seriously. THAT is an awesome tone! Great job 👍🏼👍🏼
@johnstanson3479 Жыл бұрын
“Always cut away from yourself” bonus safety tip!!!!!!!! Thanks Glen (seriously, not sarcastically)
@savannahalex Жыл бұрын
I got rid of my V30s and went to Warehouse Guitar speakers because of that horrible spikiness and couldn't be happier.
@langihc Жыл бұрын
Not everyone have V30, I’m from Poland and we have great Hesu Demons here. 🤘
@SpectreSoundStudios Жыл бұрын
Yes! Fantastic speakers!
@markolivares6943 Жыл бұрын
I am fortunate to have a recto cab from 2003. Speakers sounds incredible that they have been pretty much been broken for almost 20 years.
@CraigDeubler Жыл бұрын
Hi Glen, great video! I never understood why folks raved about the V30, this is why! The new one sounds great - also looks like they changed the model number from T3903 to T3903A - makes it easier to identify.
@5urg3x Жыл бұрын
Interesting how we all have our own "benchmarks" for what we consider to be the best metal rhythm sound. Mine's As Daylight Dies from Killswitch Engage. Love that sound. The tones from My Curse are just spectacular.
@selfsupremacy7816 Жыл бұрын
yeah i like that sound too, kse tones mostly rule. i also like the tone on parkway drives Horizons
@DrBRockstar2000 Жыл бұрын
For me, it was Shadows are Security by As I Lay Dying -- that's what inspired me to buy a used Peavey 5150 with the OG cab with the Sheffield 1200 speakers that I'm looking to replace with this V30!!
@DunderHead.5000 Жыл бұрын
Funny, people told me I was stupid for not liking the cheap Chinese version that Celestion was making. They said they were identical. Heh.
@adam-yk6yd7 ай бұрын
I couldn’t believe how massive the improvement was - absolutely staggering
@Coles-bootleg-vids Жыл бұрын
The 2022 V30 sounds like that old War Of Ages sound that I love.
@RobbDizzl Жыл бұрын
Wow, when switching back to the 2006 version it sounded like turning off a notch EQ used to dip out annoying resonances. Also: great performances on the demo song!
@ericburkman2055 Жыл бұрын
Wow, the 2022 definitely cuts through the mix a lot better than the 2006. Seems to add just enough to the mids. Nice demonstration Glen.
@trumancarter1299 Жыл бұрын
Most definitely a huge improvement! Thanks for the video and IR!
@Lewis_Emblack Жыл бұрын
This explains a lot! I remember when I started playing in the early 2000's I loved the sound of V30 cabs, then went to just singing for years until 2013. I used some V30 cabs with my Peavey 3120 and thought "wow they sound harsh as all hell, just goes to show you you know nothing about what sounds good when you are a newbie". This also came up when playing with IR's - some sound great and others have that harshness, yet I couldn't figure out what they were doing during the sampling of something simple like a MESA with V30s and a 57 for them to sound so totally different...obviously some were done with pre-2006 speakers and some post-2006. Thank you for finally answering a question that has been bugging me for the last 10 years. Those new speakers sound awesome. I love V30's again! (and apologies to 19 year old me, you were right after all)
@simonp9471 Жыл бұрын
Clayman & CoB's Hate Crew were the elusive tones for me lol. They're really iconic! This new V30 speaker probably makes it way more achievable live!
@Mark-zi6nt Жыл бұрын
I'm curious to know if an EQ pedal is able to make it sound similar to old v30s.
@sparella Жыл бұрын
that's a fair question and unfortunately the answer is no. that's what Glenn spent a decade doing among other things to try to fix the sound. the eq would need hundreds or thousands of bands to be somewhat effective. in theory an impulse response of a given signal chain could be made to compensate for the difference, but that's not worth creating when a new IR on its own would work better.
@SpectreSoundStudios Жыл бұрын
no.
@sparella Жыл бұрын
My understanding of sound improved when I started thinking in terms of waterfall plots instead of EQ curves. If you look into it, you'll see the limitations of standard EQ.
@voxpathfinder15r Жыл бұрын
The difference in tone isn’t the dust cap materials. It’s paper pulp the cones are made of. Have you seen many trees in mainland China? Exactly! Those speaker 🔈 cones are probably being made from recycled paper, old fortune cookies papers and pulverized chop sticks. You recone them with quality made in the USA parts….the tone will return!
@SaintLuminus Жыл бұрын
Wow! The difference is not subtle. But since Glenn seems to have recorded it straight out of the box.....man I wonder how good it would sound after its been broken in after a while. Holy Moly!
@brunogarciapepino3248 Жыл бұрын
Bro, nobody is talking about that demo performance, those riffs and solos were absolutely amazing!! Please tell me if it was composed for this demo or is it a fragment of any song, loved it!!! Keep pushing the awesome work
@BrandonEht Жыл бұрын
Part of it was electric eye by judas priest
@Leonlonglegs Жыл бұрын
Holy fucking shit when you put in the old one back I was astonished how huge the difference is! And that's before the new speakers are even broken in! Imagine in a few months how they sound broken in finally, love to see it.
@RedCGhost Жыл бұрын
i’ve always hated V30 cabs until a few months ago I bought a bogner and was really impressed that I didn’t change the speakers out immediately, knowing that it’s been changed definitely makes sense
@icuclc Жыл бұрын
Thanks for your IR's. They sound amazing! I have a BOSS IR-200. This unit allows you to run 2 different IRs at the same. They call it "Cab A" and "Cab B". I loaded one IR into Cab A and the other into Cab B and the results have blown me away. If this is a sample of what you're going to have in PRISM, then sign me up!
@Crescent_Audio Жыл бұрын
I’m building a 1x12 speaker cab this morning, and the 1-year-old v30 I have that was made in china is very nicely made and sounds killer. It was wrapped like yours too.
@LouTVonly Жыл бұрын
Man your right hand technique is astronomically improved even compared to videos only some weeks ago. This is really inspiring. Besides that it's a really cool video topic; thank you for the work and research so I don't have to do it. 🙂 Cheers and keep up the good work!
@stupendousmusic4190 Жыл бұрын
The original Vintage 30s from the '90s great, especially when they were new 😲 The voice coil cover/dust cap definitely makes a difference. Run some current through the new speakers and let them burn in uninterrupted for about 72 hours. Play them again, and check out how they sound.
@PeteBasel Жыл бұрын
Most of us call a voice coil cover the dust cap. Yes, think of it like a dome midrange fairly well glued to the voice coil, it radiates the mid and high frequencies just like a dome midrange. If it is hard and not well damped it will break up harshly with wide peaks and dips in the response, well damped and it can provide a smooth response.
@Tony-zp8xn Жыл бұрын
It's always nice when a company pulls it together to return a product that has gone astray back to its former glory. The new V30's definitely have a smoother driven sound.
@janwillembakker5654 Жыл бұрын
I just took the grill of a Harley Benton vertical 2x12 cabinet with Vintage 30 speakers. I bought it in October 2021 from Thomann and it has the new transparent cones.
@spiritzweispirit1st638 Жыл бұрын
Thank you! for being the Sage of modern guitar tones!🎸🎼🖖
@zedcarr6128 Жыл бұрын
It's great that the company actually listened to people like Glen, people who know what they're talking about, and made the changes.
@HornedBee Жыл бұрын
Glenn, hi! Its been 8 month and this IR is proved to be my go to IR, it sounds just like what I imagine metal guitar should sound like, I've tried hundreds of other IRs but none of them are even close.
@pancakeastronaut9404 Жыл бұрын
These are the videos ive been missing! thank you!
@Wheresthepepsibismol Жыл бұрын
I'm not a V30 fan I love me the old school cork surround creamback 65's used on Ride The Lightning them creambacks sound so great especially in a Marshall cab and a Jose modded Marshall JMP.
@Jyzz420 Жыл бұрын
I love your style of electric eye and those new vintage 30s do sound sick
@Bbh4535 Жыл бұрын
Wow that’s amazing, the vintage 30 you originally had in your Engl cab sounds like your recording inside of the Tin mans balls!
@Drwhispin Жыл бұрын
Glenn's mimicking of the V30s (the "Agggcckkkk!") is literally how the V30 sounds to me and prefer other speakers. Huge fan of Eminence Governors and the DV77
@fireball676 Жыл бұрын
so how do you make sure this is what you get when you order one? I'm afraid of ordering and ending up with the same crappy ones i already have.
@ttestates1 Жыл бұрын
My pair of 2x12 cabs have 30 year old EV12Ls on bottom and 25 year old Vintage 30s on top. Sound is fantastic 👌
@pedrogarciarobleto11 ай бұрын
I just purchased one for my Crush Pro combo and also received a BH25 version! It's time to enjoy!
@andrewdenine1685 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for putting in the elbow grease on this one we all can't make it to the factory so thanks for this one
@dilbophagginz Жыл бұрын
Holy balls, that is a massive difference. This makes me want to swap out my V30's in my mesa cab for the new ones. The high end sounds so much better.
@alexshackleford1065 Жыл бұрын
Great video Glen! I just got a Harley Benton 2x12 vintage. I've pulled it apart to rebuild/improve the cabinet. After watching this I had to go and check the speakers.... I was very happy to see it came with the 2022 "H" designation and clear coil covers. The HB 2x12 is such a bargain anyway. But now it seems even better.
@kgunn2005 Жыл бұрын
It looks like the ribs in the new speaker are a little bit deeper and more pronounced. Maybe they are using a new press. Glen, ever tried the Alnico Gold's? They're probably my absolute favorite.
@JMorg2116 Жыл бұрын
Thank you that is now my main IR! Sounds great.
@allandekoning4734 Жыл бұрын
I have to agree with you Glen, no comparison. The new ones rock!
@paulsimpson704010 ай бұрын
Hi Glen, Mate great work & great humour 👍 I am in Sydney Australia and picked up my new V30 with manufacturing code MG 10. December 2021, it has the fine wire mesh in the cone, like your one in the video. Think I can rest assured I have the new speaker like the one you demoed? Thanks for being our voice on this stuff mate. 👍
@tiadiad Жыл бұрын
Glenn, you look thinner, and healthier than ever! Good on you brother! Fire.
@inguss27i Жыл бұрын
GGLLLLLENNN!! Love the shirt and ty as usual. 🙏👍❤️🤟
@geargeeks8955 Жыл бұрын
If this is completely true it explains a lot and has cost me money. I've been veering away from the v30s for the last 20 years. And this seems to be the reason why. I went on to many other speakers.being old I played through many of V30 and just could not figure out what was going on with my ears.then I thought it was just me or memories of better times.All crap..but I'm going to give these new ones a try... So this is a fairly educated comment....thanks for your video
@FronzSchornack Жыл бұрын
Thanks so much Glenn for sharing that with us!! I am a song writer that records songs in my little man cave here in So-Cal and have been through so many different speakers in my life now 50 years of playing guitar through guitar amps, and cabs and find the Celestion speakers to be among the best!! I've used J.B.L. speakers, Eminence, and some other ones, "to many to list actually but, you understand", I find that the Celestion speakers to be more then a one trick pony. I once owned a Turquoise Twin with 12 inch J.B.L. speakers and was very disappointed, "to damm clean for my taste" so I put some Celestions in them for half the price and wow!! what a difference, these speakers are great for a decent blues tone and clean up really well also, thanks again.