ALL Companions React To Dark Urge Bhaal Choices - Baldur's Gate 3

[@indifferentsmiley]

*Accepting Baahl* Some Companions: Ugh you suck now 🙄 Other companions: Yay we're cooler and more powerful now! 🥳😈 Gale: Well... it is what it is lol 🤷‍♂️

[@ggogaming7441]

I mean, he's a wizard. Gale know the gods aren't something so simple as Evil and good.

[@indifferentsmiley]

@ggogaming7441 Unfortunately, Bhaal of Forgotten Realms lore is canonically a wholly evil quasi-deity. I think Gale just simply doesn't care where his allies align. He just cares about the advantage. Which is honestly quite Wizard-like of him.

[@JulianLinair]

Gale's technically good, but also power-mad. He knows damned well what choice he would have made in your shoes, so he's accepting of you embracing Bhaal (and godlike power) and somewhat resentful of you if you have the strength to do what he doesn't and reject the power. Gale's a surprisingly deep character, honestly.

[@Baphominx]

after all he done for ambition it would be quite hypocritical of him to judge you.@@indifferentsmiley

[@AlexisTheDragon]

@@indifferentsmiley I mean he's canonically a greater deity. Also despite what halsin says, evil and murder and all things in creation, are a natural part of creation.

[@tzengi372]

It broke my heart when Minsc said do not look Boo it is our friend no longer. I had to reload lol

[@sgtpaintbrush]

With Jaheira and Minsc it feels like my mom and uncle are proud of me

[@FightinCow]

@Motoko_AHTRjaheira is a must have in my party on my durge runs

[@uwu-uv4mg]

We may have lost a sister, a father, and a loyal butler, but now we have Jaheira and Minsc (and boo). They are the family that Dark Urge truly deserves.

[@Shalltear773]

I wonder what went through Bhaal's mind when Withers revives you. I imagined it was more like ".... what the fuck just happened here?"

[@theravenousrabbit3671]

Well, when a vestige of Jergal plays you in your own Temple, you gotta take a step back and wonder if he might not have some other card up his sleeve.

[@Shalltear773]

@@theravenousrabbit3671 true. very true. I still find him being the vestige of Jergal a little strange in a way. since the figure still lives in a way after splitting his powers between Bane, Myrkul and Bhaal; is this piece of him more akin to a demigod? or is it something more?

[@theravenousrabbit3671]

My guess? WotC wants to throw out the Dead three because they're not marketable, and want to have the return of Jergal.

[@udinrambutan-do8oz]

Jergal : sit down boy daddy's home

[@toy0kinetics]

@@theravenousrabbit3671 What the fawk are you talking about. Bhaal, especially, dead three adjacent, have been pivotal to the Baldurs Gate video Game series. That has transcendent and surpasses WofTC. Heck the Dark Urge or D'Urge campaign is the most try lore wise to Baldurs Gate and Baldurs Gate 2. Jergal has always been involved since he gave the powers to the Dead 3

[@aramrose2172]

God, hearing Minthara expressing her feelings about everything she's been through and how she empathizes with us makes me feel really bad about killing her.

[@SomeGuyXD65]

"I would've been just another in your crusade against the Absolute. And no one would remember me" Time to slaughter a bunch of Tiefling families. I must save her.

[@theravenousrabbit3671]

@@SomeGuyXD65 Get the mod that lets you knock her out and she appears later in act 2. Very worth it.

[@charlesboots6508]

Time for another playthrough where you recruit her. All the haters; if it wasn't for the prism, we'd be in the exact same place she was.

[@SomeGuyXD65]

@@theravenousrabbit3671 I have the mod, but I just hate Halsin that much

[@kevinkevin9525]

"I can fix her."

[@lammylamtama]

Astarions reactions might be locked under romancing him, I had unique lines after rejecting where he’s supportive and says he only ever saw you as yourself

[@kaynnoir]

he was romanced with 100% approval

[@milessmith8868]

He also gets unique dialogue if you beat Cazador first, both as spawn and as ascendant. There's some sweet dialogue where if you try breaking up with spawn version before fighting Orin, he'll say something like "I promised I would cure you, and we will cure you"

[@IIIGioGioStarIII]

And accepting, he's like very meloncholy over it, saying that accepting Baal means that one day they will have to part. Very sad because apparently, after the elder brain fight you don't get the final cutscene where you and him talk afterwards.

[@milessmith8868]

@@IIIGioGioStarIII Can confirm that if you accept Bhaal, you cannot be with Astarion anymore. In the end your choices are (SPOILERS OBVIOUSLY) to control the brain and make everyone your slave, or to reject the power. But since you've already accepted Bhaal, you're given one final final choice on the docks. You can either let yourself be possessed by him entirely, or you can kill yourself to spare everyone the horrors of Bhaal's return. In my evil run I personally let my durge kill himself as his one and only (other than saving the city) act of good. Other than those 2 final choices, my evil durge 100% accepted Bhaal.

[@IIIGioGioStarIII]

@@milessmith8868 seen it. Very sad. I know for my evil run, I m going to basically have everyone get screwed over. Astarion running out of the sun, Karlach exploding back to Avernus, Lea’zell leaving the party for freeing her peeps, and when it’s just me and DJ Shadowheart, off myself. Mainly because I love the scene in act 2 where Nightsong is like, “if you kill me, you’ll find yourself going down a path where you will be alone”. Shadowheart just alone at the dock realizing that the party disbanded and majority are dead or will be soon enough.

[@birb7661]

I love Minthara so much. Such a shame she is apparently still bugged, she provides both amazing in-universe insight as well as a very well written and layered character.

[@bld_messs]

Atleast they fixed her now

[@DearValentina]

@@bld_messs Naw

[@bld_messs]

@@DearValentina wdym? Her romance is completely fixed. Ive just done a durge playthrough and haveng found a single bug

[@DearValentina]

@@bld_messs On my previous (evil DU) playthrough, me bringing her to Last Light Inn caused the "Minthara is unwelcome in Moonrise" scene, which turned everyone in Last Light *permanently* hostile. No matter, I was gonna kill them anyways. On my current (plushy DU), I knocked her out in the goblin camp, and when I got her out of Moonrise, she just says "Not now" or "Talk later" instead of offering to join the camp after escaping. I had two playthroughs where she didn't die in Act 1, and both of them had something messed up with her.

[@bld_messs]

@@DearValentina hm when was this? The update was very recent.

[@kecke93]

damm... Mintharas last words cut deep...

[@MajinEvelyn]

Very reflective of I'm sure many people's playthroughs where she *is* cut down immediately

[@aedooland1824]

Yeah. Catch me grimacing at that one. Thanks for your PJs, Minthara. I killed you and gave them to Karlach

[@kecke93]

@@aedooland1824 hahaha😆

[@jacobrichards3635]

As someone who killed her in Act 1 with no knowledge of her future involvement in the game, she spoke the truth

[@assassinman0066]

I love how for not accepting the Urge, everyone is all “f yeah!!! You rejected it!!! Let’s go celebrate!!!” after ALL the stuff ya went through to fight it, and even getting close to killing a few of your companions. Just makes it feel like Dark Urge was the canon approach for Tav which definitely might be my next run!

[@donskiver]

Given the plot of previous baldurs gate games, I imagine the Dark Urge is the canon Tav.

[@udinrambutan-do8oz]

larian always slip one lore accurate origin in their game. on DOS 2 you get Fane and BG3 you get The Dark Urge

[@sethsummers6528]

​@@udinrambutan-do8ozFane playthrough was amazing.

[@Chugumbius]

Too bad it only works with couple of classes at best from rp standpoint. Others dont make sense.

[@shadowcastyt]

@@Chugumbius *cough* cleric

[@pangur_ban5320]

You know what I'd like to see before Withers shows up? Our romanced companion reaction to our horrible death. 🥲 That would be sweet if they could fall on their knees next to our body and say something at very least, w/o any overreacting, but a pinch of drama. Something suitable to this particular character. Very short reaction would be fine, and only then Withers comes to this hall. That'll be awesome ❤

[@maryhales4595]

Yes!! Like, can I *please* see Astarion grab my girl's hand and beg her to come back? 😭❤️

[@matchhead89]

Hm. Gale to me feels not like he’s approving or disapproving, just giving in to the nature of being “chosen.” He feels more like someone with religious trauma than anything else. Just sort’ve… resigned to some ultimate truth that Gods can’t be defied. “This is what it is, this is what will happen. I know it from experience. Good luck.”

[@agirlnamedmichael1670]

True but if you look at him and his body language, it seems clear that he pities your choice to accept. He may not express disgust like the others, but that doesn't mean he's happy about it. You made your choice, and he at least respects it.

[@matchhead89]

I agree. His reaction is like water with a lemon in it. It exists, with just the slightest hint of sour.@@agirlnamedmichael1670

[@Broken_Savior]

"Religious trauma" sounds like something a redditor came up with.

[@DEVil-po5xz]

Every other character: im proud of you Laezel: you are you

[@eileenconway2966]

Laezel: I don’t completely detest your existence.

[@Callidus7SSM]

I mean, to me that is so powerful. You’re *just* you now, no urge compelling you to cary out Bhaal’s will. I love how happy and supportive all of them are, but Lae’zel’s always gets to me the most. (Sorry, Astarion, I promise you’re still my favorite)

[@alexismerlo4521]

I took it to mean that you have agency now and it’s because you’re you, you defied him and became autonomous. She says something similar at another point in the game and I can’t remember it now ugh

[@miru6005]

Not me giggling, kicking my feet like a schoolgirl hearing Karlach being so proud of Tav, omfg, I would reject Bhaal a thousand times just to hear her be so happy for me 🥺🥺🥺🤧🤧🤧

[@SuperExplosivegames]

"To be a vessel of murder itself, I can think of nothing less natural" - MFW honeybadger

[@lisdraconis2212]

Astarion has differing reactions depending on his quest status.

[@Callidus7SSM]

Really? I’ve rejected Bhaal both before and after killing Cazador and all his lines were the same. Then again, I talked him out of ascending both times, and it would make sense for ascended Astarion would have different lines.

[@19Kitsune97]

When Lae'zel thank you and compliment you, you know you have done the right thing 😁

[@cadosbeene]

That last sentence. With Minthara saying “no one would remember me” .. so sad

[@firebird1241]

I romanced Astarion, finished his quest keeping him a spawn, took only him with me to the duel and embraced bhaal after resisting the whole time. When Jaheira confronted us he said, paraphrasing, "Well, not the path I'd have preferred, but I'm with you love. Wherever this takes us" and prepared for battle All that is to say, I fucking melted right then and there and am here to be convinced to keep being good on my good playthrough lol That just felt more powerful to me than everyone basically saying the same "congrats, good job"

[@rop888]

Gale is so chill about literally anything and everything

[@ciaranmcguinness8900]

Minthara is honestly the best written companion and it absolutely sucks that you have to be evil to get her and lose Wyll and worse be forced to kill Karlach. And im talking about how the game was meant to be played, those workarounds people do, ignoring the entire crux of act 1 to don't count

[@vickyvale711]

You can have Minthara and Wyll in your party at the same time. To do this, you have to be neutral in the grove conflict.

[@rob879]

@@vickyvale711 the last sentence of his comment is addressing exactly that..........

[@richytheking1315]

I mean to be fair, she herself is incredibly evil. She doesn’t really work if you are playing a good tav.

[@charleswinters9567]

They should make it so that if you knock her unconscious during the fight for the Grove, she ends up at Moonrise Tower in defeat

[@Been_there_done_that693]

@@charleswinters9567You got your wish

[@Flaky1990]

Minthara is a good character to have with you for that! That's why I'm romancing her on my evil Durge run

[@notarealperson8956]

She really does feel made for that run.

[@skyworld5619]

Sad is that she is still bugged

[@IzalithLost]

as of patch 3 she *might* be fixed. I'm currently getting her to the point where her romance starts and then stopping until there's confirmation that she works again, and then picking it back up.

[@DaftBrian1]

Gale: “it is what it is”

[@charlesboots6508]

We need to be able to respond "'Bhaal, Lloth, the Absolute. They do not have followers, they only have victims. I won't be a victim anymore.'"

[@TheAngelRaven]

And Minthara is proof that they should allow her to be a companion without butchering the Grove.

[@fabianbarrios6643]

The people have spoken and Larian has listened

[@qhu3878]

hehe, non lethal go bonk

[@michaelpitter9193]

Also make sure she has "Temporary Hostile" when you do.

[@qhu3878]

@@michaelpitter9193 no, ive recuited her without her being temporarily hostile

[@manthacake7881]

Everybody watching for the nice responses Then there's me thinking every companion in this video's got driiiiiip~

[@krasussien]

wow doing a dark urge and refusing bhaal feel so much rewarding!

[@What_do_I_Think]

Hint: When you accept Baahl, it would be better to have Shart lead to the dark (Shar) side before. On this side, she is much more inclined to follow the power instead of goodness. IMHO with Shar she becomes a mere puppet of evil.

[@thetattooedyoshi]

She doesn't. I completed her evil storyline and she still had the exact same reaction.

[@DanteD84]

Love seeing the companions proud of overcoming the evil urge

[@Ihazfunkitty]

Interesting, i just finished this quest. Won the duel and rejected bhaal. Karlach wished me a happy birthday, jaheira had the same reaction as in the vid and astarion said it was a convenient deux ex machina from withers

[@angmarliche9187]

Minthara's dialog has changed after Hotfix 21 and 22. This dialog is much more... melancholic and insightful

[@cn_nightingale]

Gale: "oh no. uhm, anyways..."

[@enzomax2553]

You can also lose the 1 vs 1 against Orin, and be stuck in a limbo ;p

[@peonys111]

killing Orin as the Slayer and then taking my rightful place was the most satisfying moment in the game

[@TheMannCrux]

Karlach's reaction is oddly terrifying.

[@larrylapin2009]

Right? Like she starts laughing like someone told a moderately funny joke and is all like "ill fucking kill you"

[@cameronwiley9412]

Halsin: "...I can think of few things less natural." You: "I am the Slayer." Halsin: "Most unnatural."

[@THCRAnimalSanctuary]

I loved everyone's heartfelt congratulations after rejecting Bhaal. Must be a great feeling.

[@Ravii697]

Karlach dancing in the background 💀

[@MisterCynic18]

Gonna miss this version of Minthara...🥲

[@thetattooedyoshi]

I think Shadowheart should have a much different reaction if you let her kill Aylin and complete her quest to overthrow the Sharran cult. Her getting upset about you becoming a chosen when she aspired to be and succeeded at becoming one for Shar makes no sense

[@majorwoody666]

Tav: I am bhaal’s chosen, I will butcher this world in his name. Gale: well beggars can’t be choosers. Was there something else you wanted to discuss?

[@alexismerlo4521]

Karlach said “happy birthday, soldier” to me and I teared up 🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲🥲

[@caerix13]

I haven't seen clips of when you died in the 1v1 but your party kills Orin after. There's at least some unique dialogue with Astarion (possible only when romanced) but I've only done one playthrough so far

[@MellowMink]

"And nobody would remember me." I will always go out of my way to save Minthara even on good playthroughs now.

[@proofAnthony]

Marrying wyll forever

[@ShadowoftheMask]

Now I need to see lines for losing the duel :D

[@AliceinOverwatch]

Karlach: pffft you put ur foot in it now? xD

[@Lunakitty1234]

Whenever I see evil Tav/dark urge do evil stuff, I can’t tell if Astarion is scared or turned on lol

[@LuisReyes-wf1zf]

0:28 No Boo!!! reload, RELOAD, RELOAD!!! 10:18 Don't say that my love. 🤧😥

[@alexderby6088]

Astarion called rejecting Bhaal very twee, there is more to it though lol

[@Manas-co8wl]

I began seeing this videos so I do not have to play them myself. That was poor judgment. Because now I'm downloading it to play it myself because I just can't help myself.

[@dan5698]

Gale is the true homie

[@garrenbrooks4778]

Withers casts lvl 12 "Say Sike"

[@avalokiteshvara113]

Okay how do you have such cool outfits for everyone? Mods?

[@prado0089]

Man I love Minthara so much.

[@shirosatsuma4946]

" You are *YOU* " 👁 👁 👃 👄

[@deazt3c]

I DONT HAVE OPTION WITH MINTHARA "orin is dead. you have your veng" WHY? IS THE GAME BUGGED?!!

[@thaqiftalip2771]

The character you make is kind of hot. 😍

[@karlebykok9177]

4:42 hahaha, really, Asta wears the dog collar =))))))))

[@jadeshadowwolf717]

DANG IT! NOW I WISH I DIDN'T KILL MINTHARA!! DANG U!

[@chaygrice7612]

What does Shadowheart do if she remains a Cleric of Shar?

[@Calyrei]

She has the same reaction as a Dark Justiciar (if you keep the Urge)

[@J8ulia]

What Happen to my romance Partner if i accept baals gift?

[@ant3910]

Wait, Jaheira and Minsc just leave like that? How to accept Bhaal without fighting them?

[@THCRAnimalSanctuary]

Halsin: Nature is a cycle of life and death Me: Literally most life lives forever in your realm, be quiet. I dont get my pet chickens forever.

[@user-gh1ql5uc8t]

2:14 what is that hair mod?

[@skullkrusher-dx4kg]

Why do so many people only show selune shadowheart?

[@Imreallyboredsick]

Because it's the best ending for her to reject Shar and become a Selunite unless you're doing an evil playthrough.

[@srishtibhadana2005]

what is astarion wearinggg? how do i get itt

[@DanielEmp]

Shadowheart's reaction is pure hypocrisy - as if her god (not for the version seen in the video, but the Sharran version reacts the same) did not want to achieve the same evil goal as Bhaal, destroying the whole world.

[@MrTetrisz]

It's fitting for her character though. Her entire view on Shar is that she's a true believer, willfully blind to the evil stuff Shar is about. But it also shows that hidden good part of her that she thinks this is a bit much, even if she's lacking in self reflection

[@funnyimp5209]

What kind of mantle is Gail wearing?

[@ShadowHunterOO]

Man, people really like to dump on Minthara because of "muh druids and children", but she is a deep and profound character for someone who can truly understand the inner workings of the nutty gods.

[@udinrambutan-do8oz]

if Larian does not gatekeeping the companion personal quest and OP item reward to Tiefling then i would hobomurder them without Minthara ordering me too

[@eagleye2893]

​@@udinrambutan-do8ozYeah, they ought to give us more options for the Evil Run to make up for abandoning the clearly more rewarding Good Playthrough.

[@trimora5687]

Where do you get those sexy dresses 😩

[@shaunamarie3168]

Why is Gale kinda chill about this?

[@agirlnamedmichael1670]

Because he's all about having choices. He might not agree with your choice, but he at least respects that you made it.

[@deadlift9360]

Hmm i killed Minsc and his rat in the sewers, figured they cant stand our new glory. Also Gale being the best buddy as always. Edit: i wonder what Shadowheart is thinking, when she became Shars right hand since she is a selunite here.

[@katiatall]

Wow

[@Xrycee]

seems hypocritical of shadowheart to go off like that after fully supporting her pursuit of becoming a dark justiciar...

[@agirlnamedmichael1670]

In way yes...but Shadowheart was fighting her nature the whole time. She was never *really* Shar's.

[@Xrycee]

it's just interesting since if you let her become a dark justiciar before going to cazador's castle, she actually is supportive of astarion sacrificing thousands to ascend, but not you accepting bhaal :?@@agirlnamedmichael1670

[@astolfo2305]

what about shar shadowheart

[@randomclod385]

Why is hasin so annoying?

[@Foodisgood]

Probably because he was never meant to be a companion lol. He was only made one due to player demand during early access which led to the halfing bard companion being cut.

[@collincaperton6718]

​@Foodisgood I'd rather have Alfina as a companion than Halsin there is really no reason we need 2 druid companions it makes no sense

[@AlexisTheDragon]

It's kinda deemening to say "you're free" when the choice is "do what we want or you're not free" I've conquered my IRL dark urges long ago, and I chose this path cause I actually wanted to reawaken them, give me some life, as I feel I've gone too light, balance darkness in with my light, be a balance of my full self, I chose this, and I can say, this game has helped me gain those things back and have a bit more drive and life, I needed some darkness to feed my light again and vice versa. So I didn't do this for bhaal, or obey him, I made my own damn choice, but it seems what the game considers freedom is meekly capitulating to the social norms of your companions. Then I again I almost feel like the writers channel my past self, especially since I see myself like a white dragon inside and that's what the default player is, and I did conquer my urges before, but yeah. But I done so by not hating myself because of them, I think the real key is not hating yourself, any aspect of yourself. I always was the author of my own tale, which is why I chose the dark urge path from the start.

[@HellecticMojo]

You shouldn't hate yourself, but you should have a little shame for writing all that. JFC dude.

[@ttiefling]

murder is bad actually

[@kekekemer9057]

you're weird lmao

[@Josh-cf7xf]

So you have psychotic fantasies and are living them out vicariously through video games? I think you need some sunshine, fresh air and a refillable prescription of lithium.

[@JustSomeGith]

Kindly never speak again, jesus christ, this isn't a fantasy universe where you're the child of a god

[@Deadpan_Snarker]

0:56 "Your companion has permanenty left the party." 𝘊𝘰𝘯𝘨𝘳𝘢𝘵𝘶𝘭𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯𝘴

[@Cipkanikolaj]

Minthara hates bhall but disapproves of you rejecting bhall doesn't make sense

[@notarealperson8956]

She believes accepting the power that comes with being the chosen of Bhaal is your destiny, and that you can control that power for your own (and hopefully hers too) ends. She doesent think bhaal is a worthy master, but sees you as having something to gain from him even so.

[@Narn29]

So she disapproves rejecting Bhaal but gives the speech how hes manipulative douche and how bad he is. Like what course of action can player take for her to be happy? Why would she be happy about you being Bhaal lapdog after her past experience? I doubt there is a choice to yoink Bhaal power and run scott free.

[@Delfegor1]

You don’t understand because you lack MOTIVATION

[@BelialGahava]

@@Narn29 it's not about being Bhaal "lapdog" from her point of view it's not because someone give you power that you must be their lapdog, be a wolf in sheep clothing, hide you fangs from them and when you can take their position, bite their throat ( menzoberranzan style ). In this universe god are not in their position forever... except Ao, dont mess with Ao, like never

[@butteredpooper7750]

It’s because she believes that instead of being a thrall for Bhaal like the other gods, he instead will ‘unleash’ you. Basically meaning that he unleashes us and we can do whatever we want