All differences between Chinese Vs German Tesla Model Y

All differences between Chinese Vs German Tesla Model Y
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[@rb8049]

Some differences are date related than manufacturing location rated. There are changes being made continuously at each plant.

[@peterf03]

I can confirm that the Shanghai made Model Y Long Range as shipped into UK earlier this year and we collected on 23rd February, as widely reported, had such harsh and noisy suspension as to cause sound pressure pulsing in the cabin. Everyone who travelled in our car could experience the effect and around 1/3 got headaches from it. As Tesla's UK finance partner, Black Horse refused to take this up with Tesla, despite Tesla seemingly being open to taking the car back, we sold the Model Y for what we paid for it. The Model X we bought instead, is obviously far superior in terms of ride harshness. If as Richard Symons and you have reported, that the Model Y has softer, more compliant suspension and other improvements, such that sound pressure pulsation does not happen, we may very well try again and change our Model 3 LR for one in due course.

[@pgiatrakis]

Some manufacturers make junk some make masterpieces some are in China Japan Germany and U.S.A. all have made lower quality and all have made great products. My problem is engineered obsolescence. With ICE it’s intrinsic and vastly inferior and that’s why they resist the EV model.

[@ParaSpite]

HA! That's why combustion was chosen over electric in the first place! Of course these greedballs would resist adoption of the superior technology.

[@ParaSpite]

@@benjaminsmith2287 Suspension has nothing to do with drivetrain. Handling and balance are superior in electric cars because the battery can be built into the floor, unlike an engine block which has to be in front of or behind the driver.

[@MrFedjy]

Really good content Sam and well done.

[@robburrows2737]

Thanks for your excellent update.

[@nelsondr1985]

Congratulations about the channel Sam. I order a Tesla model Y RWD last week and your content really helped to make my decision. I ordered from Portugal so I believe I will receive the Chinese version, from what you said at the end of this vídeo the Chinese factory was already been upgraded to have the same new things as the German one, so this means that my Tesla will have a smooth suspension and the rest of the things German factory had improved?

[@treg9492]

I bought the 2022 Tesla Model Y SR delivered in March with the 60kwh LFP battery, double glazed windows etc. Based in Shenzhen, on a 100% full charge I get 430-433km on the meter with 19inch std wheels and my moderate driving style and after 3K km, I average 137watts per km (80/20 city/highway). If you choose the larger wheels say 20inch, efficiency would be reduced quite a bit (

[@aardque]

You may be a Tesla genius, but you are lost over wheel sizes. It might help to stop thinking about the incremental differences available in a Tesla dealership and consider the _real world._ For my demonstration, I will invoke the spoked wheel of a covered wagon and compare that to a skateboard wheel. If we placed spoked wheels onto your Tesla, the car could literally navigate the Oregon Trail. You get that fact, don't you? Those massive wheels would cover ANY terrain, from deep river fordings, to carved rock steps. The massive wheels would not perform as well, on a tennis court, or skidpad. Giant wheels DO NOT turn well, they go straight, VERY well. If we placed skateboard wheels onto your Tesla, it would OWN the pavement - if said pavement were flat enough. Tiny wheels cannot negotiate rough terrain, but they turn and slide, VERY well.

[@travellover3373]

@@aardque These cars' tires have the same outside diameter it's the rim that varies. It is all about rotational inertia. Google it. Formula one cars have smaller rims with thicker rubber but designed to lower the rotational inertia which allows them to accelerate quick and stop quick but that is not economical in a long straight drive. But, good for city driving where you make a lot of stop and go. On the other hand, if you drive a long straight highway a car with wheels that high rotational inertia, wheel act like a flywheel. It is harder to turn but once it is turning it will tend to keep turning and very little force needed to keep it going but, it is harder to stop. So, it could be that the bigger rims, the design spread the weight of the wheel evenly thus lowering the rotational inertia (little rubber/weight at the outer part) so it can accelerate quicker, handles better but not economical. On the other hand, the smaller rims with much rubber/weight on the outer side increases rotational inertia and acts like a flywheel, economical to run on highway driving.

[@cbrbird]

Canadians don't have access to the Model Y Standard Range with LFP batteries. Our only options are Long Range or Performance, which are both over $100,000 CDN all in. We'll be happy with our Model 3 RWD (LFP) and our old Venza for now...

[@noleftturns]

When I picked up our Model Y 2 months ago it was pouring rain like crazy - I had an APP that went through several hundred things to check - which I did and got soaked to the bone - found one little scratch on the top of the driver's side mirror. I reported it and they put on a new mirror - took 5 minutes. The service department said they have a similar checklist and each new car is run through that list and they feel let down if anything slips through. They can fix ANYTHING they find before you get your car. So QC is at the local service center to check and fix - if you have any problems with your new Tesla heads should roll at the service center.

[@peterc3375]

What's the APP?

[@noleftturns]

@@peterc3375 for the iPhone I used the APP "Inspect T"

[@ParaSpite]

@@noleftturns Uhm, you're not supposed to write "app" in all-caps. It's short for "application" AFAIK, plus almost no one does that. I thought "APP" was a different abbreviation, I didn't realize you meant an app on a phone. I assume the same happened to Peter C. Writing "APP" in all-caps obscures what you really mean, so please don't do it.

[@noleftturns]

@@ParaSpite OK - or is it Ok or maybe just ok?

[@qilu2004]

Tesl’s cars can use a thicker coat of painting. it is tested to be arond 100 micron, and premium cars usually have that above 150 micron. Also, many people say tesla’s paint is “soft”, particularly the black paint. all these are product related. The TX made tesla’s were known for uneven gaps, i hope that has been improved.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

You're obviously believing FUD. Guess how I know? "TX made cars were known for uneven gaps" "TX made cars" have only been with customers for 3 months. I suspect the same goes for the paint. You read it somewhere, didn't check the report and repeat it with incorrect "data" (rumour)

[@peterlittlejohn8933]

How good, or not a sound system is in a car is totally arbutory for me. I wear hearing aids and have nearly 40% hearing loss. So hearing music while driving is a treat for me anyway.

[@robburrows2737]

Then listen!

[@lukeryan559]

Suspension being too hard is definitely a fair point. The car needs to ride well on rough road surfaces and Tesla could solve this by offering adaptive dampening which should be standard.

[@Vonliten]

Couldn't agree more. Such a great car with such a 'poor' suspension.

[@BobaFettUccine22]

@@Vonliten It actually depends. Try to hit a curve at 100km/h with soft suspensions...

[@garryellis3085]

LFP range in the real world is actually quite comparable with other battery chemistries. Because they prefer to be charged to 100% capacity rather than 80 to 90% with the 2170s etc.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

It's really a myth. For the number of times a pack NEEDS to be fast charged to 100% and it NEEDS to be a FAST charge, it's not a problem. It's like saying you MUST fill your ICE car up every single morning "just in case" you need it. 99.99999% of the time you know the night before that on maybe one day every few weeks you need to be LONG way from home by maybe 11:00 the next day, in which case, the night before you check your journey time, add a buffer and set the charge to complete at that time. It won't hurt the pack. The problem occurs if you leave it sitting on high charge for long periods. Most users will just leave whichever pack they have sitting with sufficient for the next day plus 10-20% and charge every few days. . Just btw, as a business vehicle user, I know when I get home what my next day will require, it's easy to plan.

[@retro_collector8245]

Hi thavks for the information but I can confirm that still the uk is getting the lower quality seats and materials also non double paned glass at rear. Also the cars for the uk do not have the lines i tripe walls to stop seat belt rattle. Can anyone else confirm this please ?

[@pgiatrakis]

My plug-in Prius has Panasonic Tesla 18650s lithium cobalt manganese and it goes 12 miles fully charged has approximately 90,000 miles around 40% in ALL EV mode and that’s 36,000 all EV miles divided by 12miles equals 🟰 that’s 3000 cycles multiplied by 320 mile lithium cobalt battery and you get pretty close to 1 million miles with less than 5% reduction of range. This Prius shows no discernible reduction. Just imagine LFP !!! So much safer and reliable and convenient.

[@eb1888.]

Hooray for the damping upgrades. Better high speed compression damping means sharp obstacles and small bumps are progressively dealt with.

[@aardque]

Um no. How could you possibly "upgrade" a damping, use superior hydraulic fluid? The damping values where "changed," is all. Suspensions are tuned to weight and speed to maintain the cars equilibrium. If you "improve" one aspect, you inevitably reduce another. All you can say is that possibly, Tesla tuned the suspension to more closely match the ride and performance the average customer expects. This is why "tunable" suspensions are considered a luxury.

[@eb1888.]

@@aardque The fluid viscosity is one component. The fluid can be pushed through holes in a valve and modulated by a shim stack with shims of various thicknesses and diameters. I've done this. The difference was massive. The holes in the valve were enlarged and the shim number increased with more thin shims of different diameters stacked in place of a couple thick ones.

[@aardque]

@@eb1888. not sure you understand. I get that you can change damping. If you make damping stiffer, you can go faster, essentially, at the cost of low speed bumpiness. If you want to drive around town smoothly, then your car will wallow and shimmy in turns, at speed, this is inevitable and there is no suspension, in the world, that can transition from low speed smoothness, to high speed stability, it simply isn't possible. Please don't hit us with some super crazy hydraulic fluid hypothesis. Oils are graded by their ability to resist cavitation, this is what happens inside your damper, when the springs extend after a compression. If they are too slow, the suspension bottoms out and if they are too fast, they oil is literally "torn" into bubbles. More expensive suspensions contain hydraulic fluid that resists cavitation and possibly even has a gas cylinder providing pressure to keep the oil "liquid." All that happened, is that Tesla tuned the suspensions such that the car could provide a sensation of confidence, at the speeds at which the car was capable of travelling. Owners said, "hell no too stiff, I'm not 17 anymore," so Tesla _detuned_ it, made it softer, less safe at speed and you all call it an "improvement."

[@eb1888.]

@@aardque Dear friend, you are a person with no personal suspension tuning experience, it seems. Wallowing is controlled by the low speed damping circuit. This has nothing to do with small bump, square bump high speed damping. High or low doesn't refer to the speed of the car. It refers to the response speed of the damper as it encounters an obstacle(high) or weight change(low). My Model 3 lacks progressive high speed compression and rebound damping. Not enough fluid moves through the valve holes past the flexible shims as the shock compresses. This causes the shock to stop compressing and the tire bumps over the obstacle. This does cause the car to go faster. It causes lack of control and loss of traction in curves. And, of course, you experience a rough ride. The redeeming factor that mitigates this poor quality ride in the 3 and Y is the excellent comfort of the seats. Way better than others I've had. You know the ride is poor but it doesn't reach your body. Kinda weird, actually. I dream of the excellence coming.

[@aardque]

@@eb1888. Dude, what are you trying to prove? Seriously, you already own a fucking Tesla, or two, or three, you need to own "Suspension Wizardry," as well? "I've never tuned." Stupid me, I sure thought I was, but no you're right, the rat trap rusted crap I tweaked on _never_ amounted to the gold plated bullshit you ride. First you come off saying stronger compression damping is "better," well no, it is simply stronger and considerably "unforgiving" over say, speed bumps, but arguably - which we are witnessing - better at high speed. So what? No, "it's better," you persist. Blow me. Then you expect us to read through your whole mental consciousness stream about seats and your freaking _dreams,_ did we ask what you dream? I dream of the day all Tesla owners look themselves in the mirror and ask why anyone should give a fuck. But do be more self absorbed over your shock absorber BS. I bet you wife just loves to hear you drone on about yourself.

[@rozonoemi9374]

Doe's both Chinese & German MY have front & rear giga casting?

[@BobaFettUccine22]

Any others that could share MYLR China vs MY Germany insights? I have to decide within tomorrow If to accept a Chinese VIN or risk a delivery delay of few months and getting the German version (MYLR)

[@mikeylau2830]

Fair exchange for customers needs and worker rest 🤔

[@jamesdubben3687]

Conclusion: continuous improvements, everywhere, all the time.

[@retro_collector8245]

Hi just fyi they have not made the changes

[@zubinix]

Only get black and white colours from Berlin giga because they have issues with colours. So if you want red or blue it will come from Shanghai.

[@danharold3087]

I would THINK that is the sort of thing that will soon be sorted.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Or "They have black or white colours" because it's a relatively low production rate at the moment and it takes time and effort to change the colours.....? Therefore, it would be logical limit the number of changes..... Or, If they have 2 paint lines running, with more on the way dedicated to each colour, but they only make enough for..... 2 paint lines..... They *might* just leave 2 running at full capacity? . I'm guessing, but *so are you*

[@adamvincent3248]

I recently ordered a model Y performance for delivery in Melbourne, what battery chemistry will this have?

[@stevenlyhne1]

4680 batteries? Structural battery pack? Most important to know

[@adamvincent3248]

@@stevenlyhne1 The question was more about the chemistry, LFP or NMC. My understanding is that all Chinese made Tesla's have LFP batteries but does this include the performance models?

[@sxyrx7]

2170 LFP non structural

[@mr260z3]

Australian performance models will have 2170 NCA chemistry batteries. This is necessary due to the higher discharge rates required to power the dual motors. The RWD has 2170 LFP chemistry batteries since it only contains a single motor. Also worth noting that the NCA chemistry will charge faster than the LFP.

[@Richard-cq4kv]

Velocity sensitive shocks have been around forever, I can't believe they're not standard on all cars by now, automakers need to have suspension options, I want a performance ride, but a lot of people like that mushy unsafe handling ride.

[@pgiatrakis]

I totally agree, Citroen I believe has a super interesting system.

[@Karl-Benny]

Comfortable does not Equate to unsafe

[@Richard-cq4kv]

@@Karl-Benny mushy suspension is totally unsafe.

[@heppo6]

I can confirm that the German Y Performance has a lot better ride comfort. Even with 21inch wheels, it's much better than our Chinese Y LR with 19inch. The front seats side support is also waaaaaaay better. For me the German Performance is preferable. We will see if the "updated" Chinese version will get there. I doubt the suspension will be as good as on the German Model Y.

[@Talos353]

So you are comparing a newer performance vs an older LR? Thats the issue. Tesla has changed the suspension on the newer cars.

[@heppo6]

@@Talos353 I was comparing a Y LR delievered from China to a Y Performance delievered from Germany. They were both produced within weeks of eachother. Not old/new.

[@lekcom62]

i would love just to have a Tesla

[@arrowzen7433]

Isn’t this just the difference between to models in the same line rather than production plant?…

[@copaloadofthis]

It must be getting close to Tesla introducing VTL technology…it’s kinda putting me off even buying one for the foreseeable future.

[@pietersmit621]

VTL is that vertical takeoff and landing ?

[@copaloadofthis]

@@pietersmit621 Ha Ha….that would be great! ..But Vehicle To Load would be a good start.

[@runeoveras3966]

VTG? Vehicle to grid?

[@copaloadofthis]

@@runeoveras3966 VTG as well. Surely Tesla has the technology. Hyundai and Ford are already starting to offer this.

[@RomanSzegner]

I wonder if there will be also 4680 battery cells with LFP chemistry in the future… what do you think Sam? 🖖🏼😃

[@mochen9282]

I don't think so. 4680 battery cells with LFP chemistry will definitely have less energy density than current 4680, if everything else is the same other than chemistry. However, CATL new Qilin 3.0 LFP battery is already better than 4680 and will definitely be much better than 4680 with LFP.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

@@mochen9282 You're doing the usual. Taking a press release and stating it as absolute fact without a side by side test. . I recall last year the BYD blade being "the best thing since sliced bread" Well, it's a great concept, but every car I've seen with it so far has "mediocre" range and slowish charging. Let's wait and see.

[@mochen9282]

@@rogerstarkey5390 Tesla already ordered both BYD blade battery and CATL Qilin batery. Do you think that Tesla will do that without extensive test?

[@mikafiltenborg2291]

I Hope 4680 LFP 🔋coming soon.. 😊🤞👍

[@RomanSzegner]

@@mikafiltenborg2291 me too … waiting for it … and then order a Model Y from Berlin 👍🏼😎

[@logan594]

I can tell you model 3 sound system is not that great. Its okay, not sure why random reviews say its amazing...

[@qilu2004]

yes, i agree. compared to some other ev models, tesla m3 and mY are so so on noise reduction. Still, they are better than ice due to lack of motors.:)

[@avexcavate2588]

Can you drive it too the moon 🌒

[@dyrectory_com]

Without watching the video... I will guess one difference is the cost... it cost 2/3 to build Tesla Model Y in China compared to the price in Germany. 💡

[@rogerstarkey5390]

I suspect you're guessing.

[@tony34star]

There is no LR had no choice bought the Performance and no choice its Chinese.

[@mikeylau2830]

To Mr Musk don't matter from Texas, Berlin, Shag hi 😁

[@doubtingthomas2157]

You are washed-up - - photometrically, that is. When you wear a dark shirt, auto-exposure of your camera causes your face to white-wash. Recommend either 1. always wear a light colored shirt or 2. find the exposure setting in your software and fix it.

[@novaponics]

If Tesla is a better than average company, the Texas Tesla should be better than the German Tesla. The Germany Tesla should be better than the Shanghai Tesla. The Shanghai Tesla should be better than the California Tesla.

[@JC-kl1sw]

These are normal changes during life cycle of a car. It's just a matter of following slightly different schedule in different plants around the world. Even if Tesla decides to make the same model with different features/parts in different locations. That's the decision by Tesla engineer/purchasing, manufacturing plants just build the car to the print they are given with the parts they are given. Whoever tries to frame it as "Chinese vs German" is just ignorant or racist, or both.

[@louiesamuel9189]

First off, calling people fools because they don’t know something or disagree with you is not an argument. I do not think Chinese made Teslas are junk, but I do not trust That the Chinese haven’t tampered with the software. Now, if I was you I would just say that if you disagreed you’re a fool. Hopefully, you see how your argument is not an argument whatsoever. My model three long range should be here in the next 4 to 6 weeks. I can’t wait. It’s my second one.

[@WANDERER0070]

You dont make any sense,,Why would chinese tamper w software and why ? See Living in China chanel or Reporterfy media travel to see how awesome China is before critisizing that country.

[@vilester]

That’s why you are a fool. Your so called “Trust” is impacting your judgement.

[@fannyalbi9040]

i don’t get your “chinese tamper with software”, tesla is 100% own by tesla. so u mean u r smarter than mr musk? he doesn’t know the software system in his car? but u know better? Hmmm impressive self righteousness

[@louiesamuel9189]

@@fannyalbi9040 Elon musk might on the company, but it’s Chinese workers that are actually building car. China has, in fact, tampered with software with software in the past. They have even been caught adding hardware, computer chips, two other products that allowed them a back door to control the product. Now why would China want to do things like that? If you don’t know the answer, you’re either working as Chinese propaganda or your naïve.

[@Scooter-K]

Conspiracy theories