All of Kramnik's Cheating Procedure | Tribute to Lord Kramnik

[@arminsafavi8304]

Kramnik: e4 Opponent: e5 Kramnik: "Ah, first line, it's absolutely clear. Usual procedure."

[@futurefox128]

"I mean you can see it right? It's clear" 😂

[@anuraghere-feh]

😂😂​@@futurefox128

[@LuminousXDMC]

@@futurefox128 Absolutely no doubt, I mean e5 move would not even cross my mind

[@rohanshah7559]

All it takes is one move

[@LuminousXDMC]

@@rohanshah7559 maybe in classic game, blitz, no way, I mean absolutely no shame, so we report-

[@chadbinsigma6487]

"Was he a good sport" "No" I'm dead

[@gin2064]

LMAO

[@kumalaba]

I am a fan of Kramnik and I play like him - when I win, I am happy, when I lose, I block and report.

[@gabrielmoreno9455]

You do the procedure

[@justplay2508]

Interesting

[@Vedioviswritingservice]

LOL

[@MildlyHumorous-cq1nn]

That's my procedure

[@aserlongas9819]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jmorgan8917]

+90 accuracy -> procedure Also moves that are impossible to Kramnik to find -> procedure

[@jsj297]

😂😂

[@ishanjoshi1350]

Reasonable for a previous world champion to say about an IM. (Not supporting Kramnik but this is not outrageous)

[@altrfryd5859]

The procedure consists of report+block and withdraw from the tournament so that his cheating opponent cannot win the tournament on tie-breaks

[@gabrielmoreno9455]

We do the procedure.

[@altrfryd5859]

@@gabrielmoreno9455 Yes, let's do the procedure (block + report)

[@marvinpolo3180]

Kramnik drawing against people using engines. He's a true Genius

[@futurefox128]

😂

[@Electronite1978]

And sometimes he even wins ;)

[@ju4184]

You do realise Kramnik is one of the best chess players of all time ?

[@futurefox128]

@@ju4184 Ya so what's your point?

[@ju4184]

@@futurefox128 blatant sarcasm in the original post

[@stephengould7726]

8:35 >Kramnik gets 98% accuracy >Opponent, who lost, and got lower accuracy, must be cheating >Only I can be good at chess without cheating

[@КлюевСергей-э5с]

He looks at the opponent’s rating. If you are 900 elo how are you playing like a GM?

[@zhyklo]

@@КлюевСергей-э5с in half the games he loses he moves slow as shit and blunders in the endgame, losing the game or all of his advantage.

[@N8Dulcimer]

Kramnik has at times been the best player in the world. He's played countless thousands of games against players at every rating level, as well as thousands of games against engines, and most chess websites even have an engine specifically modeled after his play style. It's crazy to me that people who have *definitely* never had a 3000 online rating think they have a better sense of what a cheater looks like than the former world champion.

[@zhyklo]

@N8Dulcimer He's just not nearly as good anymore and gets salty when he loses to lower rated players. Just another old man losing his mind. The only thing crazy is you glazing him so hard. Defending baseless allegations. Sheep in sheeps clothing.

[@N8Dulcimer]

@@zhyklo IDK, I guess as someone who watches a ton of chess content, I almost never see any chess masters lose to someone rated 3-500 online points below them. Kramnik couldnt be 3000 on lichess if he wasn't consistently playing at that level, so when a 2600 rated player performs with a crazy level of accuracy i get that its sus. The main thing that a super GM notices that indicates cheating is when someone plays a move that is never usually played in a situation, but causes a huge, crushing imbalance down the line. When they are playing under heavy time constraints and someone pulls an incredibly strong move that isnt common, it makes them say "I doubt someone could calculate why that move makes sense in the couple of seconds it took them to play it.

[@Shadow-7295]

5:03 "Okay, let's do the procedure"

[@JICM25]

Thanks ahahah

[@AYUSHRAJ-tp7pn]

Bro is livin inside his own world

[@abdohossan]

Kramnik: *blunders* Opponent: *capitalizes* PROCEDURE

[@disasterpiece7583]

kramnik is the kid on FPS games who accuses everyone of hacking when he dies

[@Chris.M]

No

[@clearsight655]

Except that this kid has actually won the highest accolades in chess. Think a little before commenting you are on a chess video after all :)

[@lupapupa1963]

@@clearsight655He accused Hikaru and other gms of cheating too, so what? He is just a crybaby.

[@clearsight655]

@@lupapupa1963 he raises suspicion and asks for further investigation. Thats not the same as accusation of cheating. Also, why doesnt he suspect Magnus? or Ding? or MVL?

[@shubbyshabaas]

​@@clearsight655because he thinks it's impossible to go on the winning streaks that Hikaru goes on. What he doesn't understand is that Hikaru usually farms players rated far lower than him, thus the winning streaks.

[@ivankhoda]

It’s PROCEDURE! Not report, not cheating report or other stuff, only and just - PROCEDURE!

[@Fairy-Chess]

Changed

[@ggmm167]

It's such a soviet word lol

[@АндрійПолухін-ю1ч]

@@ggmm167Exactly

[@alancosta4760]

It's sad because some of the opponents he accuses of cheating got so excited to play the legendary former world champion Vladmir Kramnik on their live streaming

[@elijahchurchwell5808]

Right? I would love to play a game against a legend, I’d probably play a lbit better/worse depending on my mindset that day. It’s understandable that when kramnij shows up, his weaker opponents try and come correct

[@Somebody1393]

Accused of cheating is a great thing I think

[@Chickendinner27-c9t]

5:02 first mention of procedure

[@kiitc]

7:56 bro got defeated and reported for cheating in the same game 😭

[@rikus6201]

Its almost like the guy stopped cheating due time trouble and instantly blunders whole piece

[@rutifero]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@ocaldini]

Hahaha

[@AP0PT0SIS]

@@rikus6201Or it’s almost like Kramnik accuses literally everyone of cheating and his accusations are baseless and have no credibility.

[@rikus6201]

@@AP0PT0SIS Guy blundered whole piece when there was no time to use engine

[@jsj297]

Michael Buffer announcing if he were a boxer: “Vladimir THE PROCEDUUURE KRAAAMNIK!”

[@johnnyblackrants7625]

Opponent plays one good move (second line) and Kramnik is ready to end them. 2:05

[@numberonedad]

also acting like that move is hilarious this is how you know he's a joke

[@cosmikk_mekk2088]

that move was difficult to see though

[@numberonedad]

@@cosmikk_mekk2088 an attacking pawn move is difficult to see?? lol

[@johnnyblackrants7625]

@@cosmikk_mekk2088 There's levels to difficult. It's really not that difficult for a 2000.

[@cosmikk_mekk2088]

@@numberonedad if u think that move looks natural in that endgame in blitz then idk what drugs ur on

[@ekswfrenwn7]

Vladimir “The Procedure” Kramnik

[@a.j.leclair5426]

Vladamir "Report'n'Block" Kramnik ladies and gentlemen!

[@pSaurav1]

Kramnik : "That move won't even remotely cross my mind". So, get good mf.

[@clearsight655]

You're not the brightest mind in chess are you? :)

[@Mr-BareMinimum]

​@@clearsight655you not getting the joke says something else

[@kenny5355]

@@clearsight655lmao what are you talking about, how is a move that is completely legal that didn’t cross one persons mind cause for cheating accusations, you can watch the other guy during that match and he’s not cheating, kramnik abuses the reporting system everytime he loses, you’re not very bright in general.

[@Nxghtcry]

U can call kramnik whoever u want but he still stands as the world champion. so “get good mf” from someone who is thousands rating points below is jus funny regardless of how Kramnik acts and what he does

[@kenny5355]

@@Nxghtcry No one is disputing that, nor is anyone saying anything about "getting good" were talking about the fact that kramnick thought this guy was cheating because he made a move that kramnick "wouldnt have thought of" therefore kramnick reported him for cheating even tho that guy recorded himself playing and strategizing, hes a whiny loser, i dont care for his title because hes an insufferable loser who thinks hes the god at chess and could never be beaten, but is beaten pretty frequently

[@peristiloperis7789]

"Everything is very clear to me" 😂

[@jorgesp2939]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@BlizzGMX]

to be fair to kramnik, he is probably right some of the time, but he definitely takes it to the next level and crosses into conspiracy land when he does it after every loss.

[@futurefox128]

Even a broken clock is right twice a day.

[@BlizzGMX]

@@futurefox128 even carlsen has said as much about the online cheating problems. It is a big issue.

[@futurefox128]

@@BlizzGMX Sure but Kramnik is calling and reporting people as cheaters who are mostly not cheaters. That fact totally undermines the whole anti-cheat-crusade he's on. Some of his accusations are absolutely ridiculous. Just as an example "PeshkaCh" (14yr old FM Tykhon Cherniaiev from Ukraine) whom he lost against is a former world record holder of Puzzle Storm (like Puzzle Rush but on lichess), beating even Andrew Tang's record... captured on video, WITH commentary, 3(!) years ago, when the boy was like 11 (but surely that was also somehow cheated? LOL). The record run is still on his youtube channel (check it out, it's insane). And that's only ONE example. You can't take Kramnik seriously anymore when it comes to cheating.

[@fonteinbloem3067]

The problem is rather in the fact that Kramnik has no idea what online playing looks like, which is the reason he’s losing so much and then he starts accusing everyone who plays decently and is experienced. It’s not just about being wrong about someone, it’s about bragging while having zero competence in the area.

[@BlizzGMX]

@@fonteinbloem3067 Not sure I understand your point. Are you saying a former chess world champion doesn't know how to play chess online?

[@michaelcarrig627]

Kramnik cannot comprehend the difference in young quality chess players' ability to process information and interface online. The third game in this video is against a 15 year old who was streaming his game and speaking out loud as he calculated. He also applies statistics without ever contextualizing that data (such as Hikaru's winning streaks). It is sad to see someone so talented becoming paranoid and disdainful toward the game he loves.

[@jsj297]

PROCEDURE!!!

[@humanbean3]

except the one move that made kramnik suspicious was actually when that kid acted VERY suspicious on his stream. go watch it. it's very sus and you're lying if you say otherwise.

[@phdcmd]

> and you're lying if you say otherwise Mr. Kramnik, hello! :D

[@michaelcarrig627]

@@humanbean3 I have watched it. (1) The attempt to isolate behavior and use it as proof of anything is entirely subjective and (2) the idea that a single move can ever provide meaningful data is ridiculous. The case of Danya saying a that a ‘move was interesting’ is the perfect demonstration. If Danya had played an engine line there might have been an intimation of suspicion, but nothing nearing proof. But what we actually have is the correlation of a single thought to the second option of an engine for a single move. This does not even resemble proof of cheating, no matter how counterintuitive a move is. And when anyone explains themselves it only leads to more absurd demands to prove the negative, which ground further absurd suspicions. Kramnik has become the “truther” of Chess. His paranoia obscures actual investigation of cheating as he supplements real analytic inquiry for its semblance. Kramnik has shown time and again that the way he thinks about bullet applies concepts of slower chess that is over the board. He plays below his level in fast formats and projects that weakness onto players that have been adapting their game to bullet since they started chess. He is Don Quixote, fighting windmills.

[@humanbean3]

@@michaelcarrig627 i know kramnik is a little coo coo... but in this case, the kid acted very suspicious with that move. i think you all see it too. not saying he cheated but there's a good possibility with the way he acted. if you play any online games you know there are a ton of cheaters.. the same with chess...

[@oliverk1100]

What a disgrace for chess this dude has become...he was always a overconfident, cocky person who was once the best chess player on the planet but he has reached a new stratossphere. I guess in some years nobody will have to do something with him

[@THA1ErAsEr]

Definetly plus 90 -> only 89. D4 is best move -> second best move. Still reported. What an absolute childish behavior. The guy was even streaming. He could check his vod and check everything, but Kramnik is to narcistic to think about him being in the wrong and losing.

[@FF-hx2xm]

"d4 wouldnt cross my mind, even in classical im not sure, in blitz no chance"... d4 is literally a candidate move xD and i would be very surprised if kramnik dismissed that move in a classical game

[@VoltageCowboy]

Kramnik would fit in with the League of Legends community

[@karuOP]

He has either gone mad or he is playing the biggest prank ever on humankind

[@Bleach420]

My guess 90+ a lot... Serious 90+ *does game review* Yeah, just as I thought 90.1 *LETS DO THE PRODECURE*

[@kyrpichko]

I remember this game of Rashid Nezhmedinov where he plated with 99.9 % accuracy. Too bad there were no engines back then to appreciate the feat

[@EternalSupremacyOfMind]

Интересно, были ли games when someone got 100% accuracy in 70-80+ turns game?

[@ChessTube100]

"You understand the scale of the problem". I love this line

[@BattleheartDLS]

"let's hope I will get some easier opponents, like Magnus maybe one day, will be a bit more chances with him." what's wrong with this guy 😂😂

[@taylorlatch2635]

Why doesn't he click the "also block this person" checkbox in the report popup instead of doing it separately? The guy is hilarious lol

[@clearsight655]

wow what a find, go enter some chess tournaments you will get somewhere

[@franepoljak9605]

@@clearsight655 He found it, but Kramnik can't, everything is obvious, block, report

[@96adarsh69]

Please respect the procedure

[@dgmullin1]

6:58: "Honour, shame, foreign words nowadays". The irony!

[@DontLookAtMe096]

Opponent: 15 blunders Kramnik: Procedure.

[@harshtiwari2334]

They have hired a specific guy just to ignore the players reported by Kramnik

[@davidc5191]

The old saying goes "Even paranoids have enemies". Cheating does occur though perhaps not at the frequency Kramnik believes. The Wall Street Journal reported the following: "The new study of hundreds of thousands of games since 2020 found that 62% of Titled Tuesdays tournaments have an estimated cheating rate greater than zero, though the percentage of players in an event who may have cheated is almost always below 2%."

[@clearsight655]

Yes, and thats a high enough rate to create a compilation from.

[@Fliigh7z]

"A bit more chances with Magnus" Man, this dude HAS to be trolling for content

[@Ism0Lait3la]

I mean its a joke but hes completely serious about the cheating

[@StevenSendak]

@RaniaIsAwesome .3%, but I agree.

[@Ism0Lait3la]

@@StevenSendak 3/1000 he would win against magnus you think? I think hed get 1 win out of 10 in blitz

[@Ism0Lait3la]

@RaniaIsAwesome Sure but we can tell by the accuracy its not straight stockfish and engine help or not, Magnus is tougher than that

[@andro99991]

@@StevenSendak Well, he beat Carlsen 5 times in classical chess (Carlsen beat him 6 times, with 16 draws) and he beat Carlsen 7 times in rapid&blitz (Carlsen beat him 18 times, with 17 draws) so I would say Vlad's chances to beat Magnus are much bigger than 0.3% though Magnus is of course the favorite.

[@exhainca]

D4 is literally the move 99% of players above 1800 would play.

[@Mubarak-11B]

@exhainca As a 2000 if I ever saw a 1800 play D4 id report immediately before the game was even over. No way in the world a sub 2400 plays D4 there without computer assistance lol.

[@exhainca]

@@Mubarak-11B Dude, I'm a 1600 and when I was watching the video this is the move I opted for before the guy made it. What are we even arguing about here?

[@tmpqtyutmpqty4733]

How old is your grandpa? Ninety a lot I mean no doubt he can't even walk

[@finalfantasy3706]

😂😂

[@Macceee]

Has it ever occured to Kramnik that he has become significant weaker and slower since his prime and that's why he's losing?

[@Electronite1978]

Even relatively strong GM's cheat against Kramnik ;) It is a lot of nonsense to claim that 90% is something so special. Even I as 2100-2200 fide blitz player can do it fairly often.

[@tmpqtyutmpqty4733]

Interesting.. Have you been procedured?

[@kazimirmalevich6712]

But he identifies them before he even checks for accuracy. I think that should be clear. When a player makes an impossible (non-human) move everything becomes clear

[@Ism0Lait3la]

​@@kazimirmalevich6712Moves he calls "non human" are often very findable

[@themind1401]

Unfortunately, he doesn't know what is the meaning of 90% accuracy. He thinks it is 90% engine move, but its not.

[@futurefox128]

I'm much lower rated than that and even I can sometimes get 97% (sometimes even with long games) in Blitz nonetheless. I'm just fluctuating a lot. And I'm not even good at calculating... Having a decent opening repertoire, tactical awareness, and overall good instincts definitely helps though. So my point is, if even I can get such a high accuracy 90%+ for masters should be absolutely the norm (which it is). Somehow everyone knows this anyway, except for Kramnik.

[@Maartenols]

He can not cope with losing a game of chess and then finds reasons to cope with it. Very sad. He was great in the 90's, but this is just sad.

[@Georgewalsh100]

You won’t blame him.. Online chess hits different for old heads.

[@tinycarrot718]

He playing the 6th best move... Its clear guys, lets do the procedure

[@GodOfFaith]

**A person breathes** Kramnik - Let's do the procedure

[@joshash5944]

"90 a lot"

[@hydrohasspoken6227]

Aging like milk is catching up fast to him.

[@Romans8-9]

I like how the opponent playing a recapture which is a "best move" constitutes cheating in Kramnik's eyes. lol

[@eliyahukuperman9250]

"let's hope I will get some easier opponent like Magnus maybe one day" 💀💀

[@Mubarak-11B]

To be fair as someone who's been playing chess a long time he has a point... In the dawn of internet chess before engines got really strong a sub 2600 player beating a world ranked player didn't even have a chance at happening... Now If happens in online chess all the time.. a 2800 losing to a 2150 will not happen ever lmao.

[@AlWwW1]

You're oversimplifying it and lack understanding of what is possible and what isn't. I'm not even 1800 rated but: 1. The sheer volume of games that happen today is exponentially higher than it was years ago, simply because people online games can be played anywhere at any time. 2. 3 minute chess matches do not represent how strong a player is on classical or what is FIDE rating is 3. Younger people process online information much better than older people 4. Humans are inconsistent, and sometimes have bad games, similarly, humans sometimes have fantastic games Simply by taking into account these points you can tell that at some point you'll have rare games in which a player like Kramnik ties against a 2200 in an online 3 minute format

[@bine35]

funny how he says "did not even cross my mind" and then right away "everything is clear about this game" as if chess is not the hardest game there is and he could possibly be making mistakes xD

[@scottmoore9151]

1 move… you play e4 to start and Kramnik starts procedure on you

[@Michelt007]

Wow, I am not a good player and sometimes got 87% accuracy, which is enough for Kramnik for reporting!

[@andro99991]

Not against top 20 player you're not. My fide rating is (was, I am inactive now) about 2250-70 and I managed to have 95%+ accuracy many times, but against my level opponents or lower. For example, when someone blunders a piece on move 15 of course you'll have a 90+ accuracy. Or sometimes people walk into lost endgames (because they don't know the endgame theory) and I make 20+ accurate moves converting the advantage (cause I know how to win that particular endgame) and then the review shows 90+ . Or I know an opening variation and the opponent does not. However, when you play against Kramnik (or his level) it is much harder to achieve such accuracy without cheating because he calculates better, knows theory better and has better positional understanding. So when he plays against a lower rated player he strives for complicated positions where lower players make mistakes or are outcalculated. And then when a lower player makes 15 first or second engine line moves in a row in such a position it is a strong indicator that they cheat. Where Kramnik makes a mistake is that he doesn't discern between 2200-2300 rated players who beat him (obvious cheaters) and 2600 rated players who beat him regularly (like Jospem or Bortnyk) - who are not as strong as him in classical chess but actually better in online blitz. They are capable of such accuracy because they are strong gms themselves. They also have better mouse skills and use premoves - Kramnik regularly fails to take that into account and he wonders how they're "so quick and so good" - in reality, when they calculate a forced line they make 3-4 premoves. So, the conclusion is - Kramnik is prone to exaggeration, but his claims should not be dismissed easily. Cheating in online chess is pervasive and a serious problem.

[@Michelt007]

Very good point! The stronger the player, the more he challenges you, and the more likely you make errors!

[@clearsight655]

@@andro99991 excellent point

[@futuropasado]

@@andro99991 a strong rated player and IM can also draw and beat Kramnik online, with speed and a good game. Not impossible.

[@crypticutopia7228]

"Was he a good sport"? "NO"😂💀

[@Abdivaliyev_Suhrob]

Let’s see if it is the best move, ohh yeah it is the second best move

[@OsbornsConcise]

And it’s more than enough

[@Lionel-xp8tw]

"late cheating thuesday" hahaha

[@johannsebastianbach3411]

franz kafka: der prozess dyadya vova: просиджыр

[@beniocabeleleiraleila5799]

9:33 He commited 2 blunders and is accusing the GM of cheating, i cant lmao

[@caracol112]

5.04 let´s do the procedure

[@WingsOfHeartFailures]

The last clip is legendary. Maybe I will find easier opponents like Magnus 😂

[@Legitti]

Man is playing with laggy potato pc and can't keep up in the end games 😂

[@TheSlazzer]

"one move? - Clear indicator to me." God. What a bum.

[@smachernl]

Kramnik visits fancy restaurant. Waiter brings soup with no spoon. Kramnik raises eyebrow. "Eh, no spoon? What is this, tactical blunder?" Waiter nervously says, "Spoon coming soon, sir." Kramnik shakes head. "No spoon, no excuse. Time for Procedure: block, report, recommend gulag." He eats soup with fork.

[@zhanibek_kk]

“You cannot play anymore if you are not untouchable… from the cast of untouchables” Huh?

[@brianinski]

Kramnik is missing the neural activity exhibited here, his anterior cingulate cortex (ACC) is not mitigating at the level we see here. The ACC jumps in to iron out the differences between intuition and hard calculation. He doesn't have the level of familiarity in this region of the brain, and it is unfortunate that he looks to blame outside factors, "must be cheating" to explain his discrepancy.

[@kenny5355]

Lmao 2:30 guy uses move that’s completely legal except it’s just something that “would never come to mind” lmao so he’s cheating kramnik has to be one of the most annoying chess players also the dude that beat him in the clip was 14

[@HXD90]

Bro is tweakin

[@Azariy0]

This guy would be best friends with my English teacher. I finished the city olympiad at №16. She still thinks I cheated the final exam though.

[@metalslegend]

Lord Kramnik lol

[@KP_100]

Magnus vs Kramnik , speed chess championship would be interesting, more interesting will be reviews by Kramnik

[@allengainzmma]

“I can see clearly now the rain is gone 🎶”-Kramnik

[@allsports8173]

Bros favorite opening is the lunatic variation

[@Nerdrakere]

8:35 “mine is 98% and even with blunder his is 94%” Does this guy really not hear himself?

[@onlyformotovlog]

He may be 500elo mathematician but he was also a world champion, though he can win or draw against engine and still report them 😅

[@MarianoFreyreX]

12:30 the IM is playing 9 perfect moves with 5 seconds in the clocl. Imposibleeeeeee. Cheater

[@JustusPaul1]

this guy is actually a cheater and just got his gm title last month (at age 37, which is typically past the age of vast improvement), competitive chess is absolutely dead to cheaters

[@akashmandal5393]

At this point every time you see kramnik either abort, resign or lose badly.... Don't draw don't win.😂😂😂

[@avinashsharma3315]

If u sees Vladimir kramik as opponent....Only one way to escape from usual procedure....just abort the game before start of the game

[@zackbrown1865]

Hahahahha 4:27 whos this genius

[@Jon-py9xl]

Kramnik reminds me of Low Tier God in the fighting game community.

[@StockMalthiel]

PLeasem comment more about procedure, i will give like to your comment!! it is clear to me...

[@themind1401]

Imagine I have 85% accuracy as 1400 elo kramnik: wtf ?! Report

[@humanbean3]

if you have 85 against a former world champion you better go enter some tournaments my man and start your new career

[@themind1401]

@@humanbean3 85 percent accuracy loses against kramnik and all 2700 GM's. You can easily go and check out some games of GM's and you'll find out they are all above 90% even when they lose. Magnus games sometimes even 99%.

[@humanbean3]

@@themind1401 i just saw hikaru lose 4 times to whoever and he was all well under 90 and all the games below that were him under 90.....

[@humanbean3]

@@themind1401 oh and btw these aren't just his losses. the list were of his wins and losses all under 90. so im certain you are mistaken

[@devjyoti5614]

You mean supii? ​@@humanbean3

[@N8Dulcimer]

The thing is, most high level players have played against engines a TON for practice and study, and the engines make totally different moves than humans. These guys have played so many thousands of games vs engines and people that they can often spot the moves that are very "inorganic" but cause a huge positional upset a couple moves down the line. The other thing is that reporting someone for cheating doesn't just get them banned. It alerts the website, which then analyzes their games. The website has such a massive data set that it can easily discern how often a bot plays that move compared to a person with the same rating. If the website doesn't see evidence of cheating, nothing happens. It's totally harmless for Kramnik to say "hey that felt like playing an engine, please look into it."

[@Ceidonianphysicist]

It is not remotely harmless for a former world champion to constantly go around publicly accusing innocent people of cheating.

[@N8Dulcimer]

@@Ceidonianphysicist I am just responding to the video. I don't have any reason to believe that these players were not cheating, because I am not a 3000 online rating player or a 2500 player, so I do not have any knowledge at all about which moves are common for engines at that level....

[@clearsight655]

It's sad that a viewpoint as accurate as yours goes down in the comments against a bunch of wisecracking nonsense from those who clearly have no clue how chess or even intelligence work.

[@edims4993]

@@N8Dulcimer According to that logic: Why aren't all other super GMs acting like Kramnik does? They would have to notice it too, right? Yet somehow he seems to be the only one running into cheaters constantly. Walks like a paranoia, talks like a paranoia..maybe it just IS paranoia.

[@N8Dulcimer]

@@edims4993 In my opinion, I would suspect that high level cheating is less common than Kramnik believes, however far *more* common than the average GM assumes. I also think most chess streamers are aware that it looks bad to report after losing, so they probably don't make such a spectacle out of reporting cheaters. Cheating is common across all games, especially online games, and chess is particularly easy to cheat in. If there is one thing we have learned through various recent cheating scandals such as Hans Neimann, it's that you can cheat endlessly and never get caught if no one reports you. All reporting does is make the lichess robot compare the moves to engine moves as well as human moves, and at this point the lichess robot is very good at knowing the difference.

[@Trippydraugr]

Kramnik is every multiplayer gamer out there. I don’t understand how I lost? Obvious cheater report.

[@simonvonschniep4981]

In every game I play. I will say I do the Kramnik instead of report.

[@jorge_781]

Sometimes he is overreacting, other times he's clearly not.

[@StockMalthiel]

5:03 What you seek, seeks you.

[@mainejudy]

Kramnik reported and blocked me after 1.e4!, now it's getting ridiculous

[@Evilanious]

To quote from the video: "this is absurd".

[@SunilDachmann-mg7mm]

Poor Kramnik just getting old

[@Nemtomi]

Self-reflection ain't one of his strenghts, eh?

[@focusaddiction3460]

What a sad end of a career. I was a big fan of this guy before we knew who he was, damn.

[@Trippydraugr]

Kramnik is what a grown man who has never done a hard days work in his life looks like

[@freyc1]

You don't become world champion by not working hard.

[@CCtheRapperman]

​@@freyc1 playing a children's game, even at a high level, is not "hard work" lol

[@freyc1]

@@CCtheRapperman I bet you felt really cool writing that.

[@KingAllarie]

@@CCtheRappermandefinitely incredibly hard work to become world-champion in any domain. You’re lost.

[@edims4993]

For those using the argument that Vlad as a super GM sees things we do not: According to that logic: Why aren't all other super GMs acting like Kramnik does? They would have to notice it too, right? Yet somehow he seems to be the only one running into cheaters constantly. Walks like a paranoia, talks like a paranoia..maybe it just IS paranoia.

[@RD22x]

Ive hit 90 accuracy in my 400 ELO games, would i get PROCEDURE'd?

[@shahvage4646]

7:57 This guy was definitely Cheating

[@MohammedRida-d1h]

Did anyone double check the guys kramnik reported on got banned ?

[@AquariusSun-x5w]

So hard to accept that IMs & FMs are stronger than you :D

[@badplayer9507]

soon evil chess world 2100's will beat kramnik... to prove they are not cheating.

[@zo5esi4i57]

2150 fide 2.5-1.5 vs world champ, good joke!

[@RodrigoCampos-t1n]

Thats my plan to reach 3000! If i lose, Block and Report. Until I loose no more.😂 Kidding, he is helping to keep the platform clean!

[@simplyfitness892]

More like the opposite, reporting everyone not only does nothing but even helps cheaters stay undetected.

[@theKashConnoisseur]

Kramnik keeping the chess world clean is like saying the boy who cried wolf helped protect the sheep. In theory you could say that, but after so many false starts, people stop taking it seriously and the wolves simply do what they want to the sheep.

[@butcherredalert1013]

ya some IM's outplaying a former world champ with high accuracy might be questionable... especially that 2150 dude... there were some fishy ones and I understand why he is now paranoid

[@GregorClegane402]

You still should consult the engine before insultations of cheating.

[@moses-n3i]

"Best, Best, Best, Okay, Best, Best, Best."

[@boniface494]

lose a game, block and report. wow this guy has lost it