What if Iraq Won the Iran-Iraq War? (Part 2 of 2)

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@theadamant7125
@theadamant7125 9 жыл бұрын
What if Hitler honored the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact? The Soviets built the first nuclear bomb? The Soviets did not join the allies in WWII, but formed a dually hostile alliance in a Sino-Soviet Pact? Hear me Cody!
@ChiefCrackola
@ChiefCrackola 9 жыл бұрын
+The Adamant lets say the Soviet and German Forces won the WAR, New tension would build Between Fascism and Communism, it would be like the cold war except Democracy wouldnt exist. As for the Soviets building the first Atomic bomb, Chances are 0 to none since Germany had the upper hand developing new military hardware such as the Horten ho 229. So in short, Germany would have made the first atomic bomb since the soviets were a bit behind. If the soviets did not join the allies in WWII, Then back to your first question, they would ally themselves with the Axis or just be Nutural. For the last statement, i dont know what to say sorry. Hope that this was helpful XD
@Tytoalba777
@Tytoalba777 9 жыл бұрын
+The Adamant If Hitler didn't honor the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, well 1st: He'd probably be able to at least try a full scale invasion of Britain since he wouldn't be directing resources east (whether this would have been successful or not is a different story), and 2nd: the Soviets would probably invaded him back (again, whether this would have been successful or not is arguable) If Soviets built the first bomb, well I don't think things would have changed in the long run. Soviets didn't want to continue on to invade the West, they already suffered enough. Maybe the most that could have happened is greater Soviet influence on Japan, so maybe Japanese history could be different.
@danuk500
@danuk500 9 жыл бұрын
+The Adamant I thought the Soviets were preparing to attack Germany a few months later anyway?
@Tytoalba777
@Tytoalba777 9 жыл бұрын
RedWings01 That's not necessarily true. Most Soviet generals were concerned that they weren't prepared for war against Germany at that time, and I'd argue that the main thing that saved the the Soviets was 1: Allied aid (which probably wouldn't happen) and 2: a sudden burst of Patriotism (having a sudden, unjustified attack has been shown time and time again to unite the defender rather than tear it apart). I'm not going to say that the Soviets would have lost, but I don't think it would have been a quicker death for Germany
@redwings0142
@redwings0142 9 жыл бұрын
James A Clouder true one of the main reasons the soviets survived the initial assault but just looking at the pace at which they forced the germans back it stands to reason that if the soviets attacked first the war would've ended sooner. though due to a number of factors the germans could've put up an outstanding resistance it may not have made much of a difference
@aimraah2586
@aimraah2586 8 жыл бұрын
Why do so many people post comments here that have nothing to do with the Iran-Iraq War?
@Zim612
@Zim612 8 жыл бұрын
+A Imraah I know right.
@williamtattersall3528
@williamtattersall3528 8 жыл бұрын
I so what is your life long wish?
@matthewbittenbender9191
@matthewbittenbender9191 5 жыл бұрын
A Imraah they’re suggesting other stories for Cody. He asks in every video for suggestions in the comment section.
@bunney3272
@bunney3272 9 жыл бұрын
What if the Soviet Union won the Afghan war?
@kaiseramadeus233
@kaiseramadeus233 9 жыл бұрын
There's no way
@cristianromero6397
@cristianromero6397 9 жыл бұрын
Yes just Yes because the Afghanistan war was one of the reasons they collapsed
@kaiseramadeus233
@kaiseramadeus233 9 жыл бұрын
cristian romero They were on the progress of collapse before, so it just made it inevitable. Even then, the drawn out war made them leave. So they couldn't have won.
@bunney3272
@bunney3272 9 жыл бұрын
Middle East belongs to Communism
@cristianromero6397
@cristianromero6397 9 жыл бұрын
+Kaiser Amadeus Well yeah but it probably would of helped some how and would if left behind some legacy behind too
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 8 жыл бұрын
Henry Kissinger on the Iran-Iraq War: "It's a pity they both can't lose."
@jokerofmorocco
@jokerofmorocco 8 жыл бұрын
They both did lose in real life tho
@squamish4244
@squamish4244 8 жыл бұрын
Bob Jones They did. The international community would not allow either side to gain a decisive advantage, and yet both sides had chances to end the war status quo ante bellum long before they did and chose not to.
@fuzzydunlop7928
@fuzzydunlop7928 7 жыл бұрын
This would directly cost more lives, but you're right, they could have ended the conflict if they wanted to. They both thought nothing of expending lives in pursuit of their goals.
@alyssinclair8598
@alyssinclair8598 6 жыл бұрын
Fuzzy Dunlop that is how thoecracies and dictatorships work. To them war is like playing risk, soldiers life's only matter as much as you will need them for future wars.
@saeedvazirian
@saeedvazirian 5 жыл бұрын
@@jokerofmorocco Iran didn't lose.
@glitch42
@glitch42 9 жыл бұрын
kind of disappointed that you didn't talk about the Pan Arab movement. after the failure of Egypt to united the Arab states under one banner I think your super Iraq would have tried to carry the mantle. That would be an awesome alternate history.
@SpicyCheeseAltHistory
@SpicyCheeseAltHistory 11 ай бұрын
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@ParsuasiveGaming
@ParsuasiveGaming 9 жыл бұрын
What if the USA won the war against the Persians in the Battle of Thermopylae.
@osamabinladen772
@osamabinladen772 9 жыл бұрын
+Parsuasive that's funny
@ricardovivas7686
@ricardovivas7686 9 жыл бұрын
Lol
@jiggyjig2047
@jiggyjig2047 9 жыл бұрын
What if the USA won the war against the Romans in the Battle of Germania.
@Scottcels
@Scottcels 9 жыл бұрын
what if the USA wkn in the battle of hoth, with the orcs as allies and count duku leading the battle
@KaiserMattTygore927
@KaiserMattTygore927 9 жыл бұрын
+Viperbreath 05 Take that Darth Vader, MURICA IS WATCHIN' U
@irvenman
@irvenman 9 жыл бұрын
Your videos never cease to motivate me into playing Paradox Games.
@t-rayjones8214
@t-rayjones8214 9 жыл бұрын
What if the US invaded Japan instead of dropping the Atom bomb on Nagasaki and Hiroshima
@unicornninjao
@unicornninjao 9 жыл бұрын
alot of u.s. soldiers would die and we probaly wouldnt understand nuclear weapons as much
@suddenlytitan739
@suddenlytitan739 9 жыл бұрын
+T-Ray Jones more people would die. Even Musashi, the last Yamato class ship, was meant to be grounded for one last fight against the American occupation
@boldlybravo2492
@boldlybravo2492 9 жыл бұрын
+T-Ray Jones lots and lots of dead american and japaneese soldiers that's for sure
@suddenlytitan739
@suddenlytitan739 9 жыл бұрын
+T-Ray Jones although, some say that it was the USSR that was the deciding factor
@MWH12085
@MWH12085 9 жыл бұрын
possibly a lot of dead soldiers on both sides.
@Jebbtube
@Jebbtube 9 жыл бұрын
Saddam was indeed an Arab Hitler, and he certainly will not be missed after being put to death so many years ago. However, the act of invading his country when and how we did had grave consequences that our leaders at the time should and likely did foresee, and perhaps chose to ignore for personal gain.
@osamabinladen772
@osamabinladen772 9 жыл бұрын
+Jebbtube I see him more of a Arab Stalin to be honest. US invasion= Operation Barbarossa, Cult of Personality like stalin, Secret Police etc..
@Jebbtube
@Jebbtube 9 жыл бұрын
rap monkey True, but it's also been a warzone for the last decade or so, mostly because of us I'm sad to say.
@mickymarshall61
@mickymarshall61 9 жыл бұрын
+Arik Al Zayat Hey that is Good! Isn't the sumer Temple near Bagdadi?
@Jebbtube
@Jebbtube 9 жыл бұрын
***** You like the guy who gassed his own people?
@Jebbtube
@Jebbtube 9 жыл бұрын
***** "Admire"? I think y'all need to raise your standards if Sadam was your benchmark.
@thomaspaine3394
@thomaspaine3394 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks Cody I love these to videos the most and I do agree with the ideas. Glad I collaborate even if it was minimal. Number one fan Jesse.
@Turtleman1234321
@Turtleman1234321 9 жыл бұрын
What if the Native Americans discovered the Old World some how?
@kaiseramadeus233
@kaiseramadeus233 9 жыл бұрын
I think he did something like that already.
@bunney3272
@bunney3272 9 жыл бұрын
Interesting. Depends on what part of the Old World they reach first.
@jmaxag5419
@jmaxag5419 9 жыл бұрын
+Sir George Severn Europe probably
@bunney3272
@bunney3272 9 жыл бұрын
Jack Aguayo If it is Europe, they might have established connections across the Atlantic and Native American influences would be found in eurasia
@James--Parker
@James--Parker 9 жыл бұрын
The Americas would still be colonized. Not nessessarily by Europeans, but someone would have done it. The Native Americans still lacked evoultionary defenses against old world diseases. So 95% of the population would still die at some point, leaving it easy as hell to colonize. Because the native population was constantly dying, in order to effectively colonize it, you would have to import large numbers of people from the old world. So just like in our timeline the Americas would be filled with people from the old world.
@jmaxag5419
@jmaxag5419 9 жыл бұрын
Can you do an episode on if France won the French and Indian War? We are learning about it in history and it would be cool if you did it :)
@manzilla48
@manzilla48 9 жыл бұрын
It's called the seven year war
@Jokkkkke
@Jokkkkke 9 жыл бұрын
+manzilla48 It has a lot of different names depending on where you're from.
@masone4501
@masone4501 9 жыл бұрын
+The Revolution Like the Pomeranian War (Prussian theater of the war)
@kaiseramadeus233
@kaiseramadeus233 9 жыл бұрын
+manzilla48 In Europe it is.
@tonyg2847
@tonyg2847 9 жыл бұрын
Are you in 5 grade
@Tounushi
@Tounushi 6 жыл бұрын
One idea: If Iraq had won the war on favorable terms to it, they would've used their newfound economic boost, prestige boost and military power to insist on a Ba'athist unified Arab state with Syria and Jordan.
@jaimekerr1192
@jaimekerr1192 9 жыл бұрын
What if the Austrians had lost at the battle of Vienna?
@bunney3272
@bunney3272 9 жыл бұрын
Islam would dominate Central Europe
@nousseirbahlous3387
@nousseirbahlous3387 9 жыл бұрын
me to man. XD
@Root174
@Root174 9 жыл бұрын
+Napalm Blaziken European here, I often make that mistake as well. In Dutch, the two names are very different: Oostenrijk (literally meaning "Eastern Empire") as Austria and Australië as Australia.
@Root174
@Root174 9 жыл бұрын
Saurons Mouth Ah, the native name if I'm not mistaken. It does leave the question where the English name Austria comes from.
@bunney3272
@bunney3272 9 жыл бұрын
***** Osterreich > Austerreich > Austeria > Austria My guess
@spitama1234
@spitama1234 8 жыл бұрын
What if Islam (Bani Umayid) never attacked the Sassanid Empire (Iran/Persia). This is too old, but fkn gold.
@mineabou
@mineabou 7 жыл бұрын
Islamic Socialism They didn't for forever Persians used to be Sunni majority 90% of all main Sunni Muslim scholars are Persians like Imam Bukhari, Imam Muslim, Imam Tirmidhi,Imam Ibn Majah, Imam Annassa'ee, Imam Azzamakhshari, Imam Alghazali, Imam Malik ibn Anas... i can go forever. Until the Safavid Dynasty came to power and committed massacres against the sunnis and replaced it population they're doing the same thing with Syria now
@partibananathurai5862
@partibananathurai5862 7 жыл бұрын
Sufi Muslim Comrade You realise Zoroastrian Persians contributed a lot to advance knowledge in astronomy, mathematics and poetry/art? I mean the Achaemenid King Cyrus is called "Messiah" in the Jewish Torah/Old Testament for God's sake I'm not trying to say Muslims didn't contribute because people like Al-Khawarizmi did a lot. But please treat other religions with respect if you want your religion to be respected as well.
@spitama1234
@spitama1234 6 жыл бұрын
Iran would've been better off
@اسمعشوائي-ه6ظ
@اسمعشوائي-ه6ظ 4 жыл бұрын
Soren Spitama not really
@mostafamahmoud8804
@mostafamahmoud8804 4 жыл бұрын
The Umayyad dynasty rose to power yearssss later after Persia was conquered before Umayyad was the Rashidun.
@fabiomorandi3585
@fabiomorandi3585 9 жыл бұрын
There's a potential third alternate scenario: what if the Kurds had managed to play both the contenders against each other to the point the stalemate would occur because the two regimes toppled each other roughly at the same time?
@Donegal513
@Donegal513 5 жыл бұрын
What would have happened if Saddam “won” the Iran-Iraq war depends on what would constitute a victory. Would it simply be territorial gains in southwestern Iran near the Persian Gulf? Or would it mean driving deep into the entire country? Regardless of how unrealistic. I’ve always been under the impression that the west’s (the US in particular) hatred for Iran was larger than the skepticism of having Saddam become The major player in the Middle East. I would be interested to hear the opinion of others. But I have always felt the US, UK, etc. would welcome the idea of the still fragile theocracy in Iran being driven from power. Even if that meant Saddam became the most powerful leader in the Middle East, and a much more powerful player on the world stage as a result. If the Iraqi military began to make huge gains into Iran, and the Iranian government and military fell into a state of chaos, would the west have gotten fully involved? I always picture the Iraqi military driving to Tehran, and the US influencing the structure of the new Iranian government. Saddam not wanting to govern all of Persia would take the southwest, and maybe an extended piece of territory along the Persian Gulf’s coast. While Saddam and the west orchestrated the rise of a new “puppet” government in Tehran. Whether that would be installing the young Crown Prince Reza Pahlavi as the new Iraqi and American sponsored Shah. Or some sort of elected secular “democracy.” Whose Prime Minister would be hand picked to keep Iran in line. Maybe even a hybrid of both.
@MohammedAli-un2ms
@MohammedAli-un2ms 2 жыл бұрын
If that whould have happend iran whould be in a state economicly like itself now with huge inflation but like iraq politically today. But saddam whould try to gain more influence in the new state in iran and end up influencing arabs located in Iran. The Us whould want the Soviets to be far away from ever taking Iran so the Us starts funding monochist for democracy wasn't popular in Iran and the US whould arm they to fight communist in Iran. Saddam whould still try to take Kuwait,but not in a invasion but in a vote, he whould try to get Kuwaitis to say there iraqi so like in 5 years or so he could annex it. But Iraq whould end upp having more coastline that they have wanted to have for a long time and that's why saddam wouldn't enter Kuwait because he has the coastline that Iraq needs, kuzekstan or arabstan in this universe has alot of oil so Iraq whould come closer so Saudi oil trade numbers, saddam could have sold for cheaper because Iraq could hold itself without the Vass oil fields in kuzekstan.that whould end upp crashing some nations oil trade and make a dent in the Saudis and alot of nations whould start trading more with Iraq, the US whould whant Iraq to stop but saddam could just Staal the Americans and make Nato and European nations trade with him so the Americans leave him alone. The Kuwait economy whould have plummeted if Iraq started mass production of oil for now that Iraq has much more Oil fields in former Iran it has more people that whant to trade, Kuwait will see a form of pro ba'athist and pro iraqi movements and parties that are getting secretly aided by saddam. A puppet government like Belarus gets formed in Kuwait and Iraq starts getting its oil companies into Kuwait.
@GamezAdmins
@GamezAdmins Жыл бұрын
Well for Iran to win, it would be to topple Saddam's regime and make Iraq an Islamist country, for Iraq to win, it would be to capture Khuzestan
@holdenennis
@holdenennis 11 ай бұрын
Saddam Hussein had the National Council of Iranian Resistance (who had Mojahedin-e-Khalq as their armed wing) in waiting as who he would install in Iran had he won the war.
@reinhardwulffe8883
@reinhardwulffe8883 9 жыл бұрын
1. What if Germany was not split after World War II? 2. What if the Armada made it to England? 3. What if Japan invaded the Soviet Union during Operation Barbarossa?
@TriatomicAI
@TriatomicAI 9 жыл бұрын
What if Argentina won the Falklands War?
@f34rknight29
@f34rknight29 9 жыл бұрын
That would be pretty cool
@redwings0142
@redwings0142 9 жыл бұрын
+BlazeKnightSS plus there was no way the UK would abandon one of its most important remaining colonies and at that point the falklands people were of british settler descent who would've highly resented argentine rule
@gregoryharris4911
@gregoryharris4911 8 жыл бұрын
+Feminazi Frequency I'll speculate then that Argentina catches victory disease, goes a bridge too far and starts striking more at its enemies in South America (Chile at the time for example), infuriating the U.S. further and triggering more international intervention.
@yourmajesty1361
@yourmajesty1361 8 жыл бұрын
+Triatomic Ai Argentina would own the Falkland Islands.
@KillerSerpant6
@KillerSerpant6 8 жыл бұрын
That thought made me shudder. Like hell we'd leave it to them even if they did win, just make us more resentful.
@matthewcoffman4053
@matthewcoffman4053 9 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video!
@Laserwad
@Laserwad 8 жыл бұрын
Arabist brutality in Iraq against Iranians (Kurds, Persians, etc.) is Ironic, given that Iraq was a province of Iran for ~1400 years. Of all "Arab" countries, Iraq has the strongest Persian legacy. _Baghdad_ itself is a Persian term; Ctesiphon, the capital of the Persian Empire, stood only 40 kilometers from this city.
@mr.fantastic4403
@mr.fantastic4403 5 жыл бұрын
Ziad Ibrahim Hey kids look at this! An immature comment!
@Wes-g2l
@Wes-g2l 5 жыл бұрын
@@ziadibrahim3404 He is talking about historical facts.
@Essa5225
@Essa5225 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah and iraq is under Arabic rule for almost 1300 years now and Baghdad is a completely different city from ctesiphon built by the abbasids long before the Persian empire has fallen to a bunch of tribesmen from the desert habibi
@hauntologicalwittgensteini2542
@hauntologicalwittgensteini2542 5 жыл бұрын
@@ziadibrahim3404 found the immature arab
@anon-iraq2655
@anon-iraq2655 5 жыл бұрын
Iraqbwas never a province of iran since iran only existed in 1950s Iraq was indeed part of several persian empires, for 500 years not 1400 Baghdad isnt a persian name,its persian historical revisionism, the name shows up in assyrian records thousands of years before persians existed The persian "lagacy" is the worst era in mesopotamian history, even mongol invasion and american invasion didnt leave the country as destroyed as persian peace times
@JaxTheCartographer
@JaxTheCartographer 9 жыл бұрын
wow love all of your videos they all have such great topics !
@PhilWood82
@PhilWood82 9 жыл бұрын
War of 1812: What if the US won? What if Britain (Canada) won? :)
@kaiseramadeus233
@kaiseramadeus233 9 жыл бұрын
The rivalry would continue?
@bunney3272
@bunney3272 9 жыл бұрын
If the US won, Canada would be annexed. If Britain won, American expansionism would be halted.
@kaiseramadeus233
@kaiseramadeus233 9 жыл бұрын
Sir George Severn With each side hating the other.
@bunney3272
@bunney3272 9 жыл бұрын
Kaiser Amadeus Yes, Canada would be the capital of anti Americanism
@kaiseramadeus233
@kaiseramadeus233 9 жыл бұрын
Sir George Severn Wars would happen. North America would turn out into a worse place to live than Europe during the plague. Just be glad that no one won.
@tummywubs5071
@tummywubs5071 9 жыл бұрын
Great video budday!
@bunney3272
@bunney3272 9 жыл бұрын
What if oil was never discovered in the Middle East?
@kaiseramadeus233
@kaiseramadeus233 9 жыл бұрын
You post too much. Stop.
@bunney3272
@bunney3272 9 жыл бұрын
Kaiser Amadeus I came early.
@kaiseramadeus233
@kaiseramadeus233 9 жыл бұрын
Sir George Severn​ Post it in one comment. It'll make it easier for All of us.
@bunney3272
@bunney3272 9 жыл бұрын
+Kaiser Amadeus OK next time
@MWH12085
@MWH12085 9 жыл бұрын
The environmentalists have noting to bitch about.
@samuelbaird133
@samuelbaird133 9 жыл бұрын
why do you upload so late?
@AlternateHistoryHub
@AlternateHistoryHub 9 жыл бұрын
+Samuel Baird College
@bless7213
@bless7213 9 жыл бұрын
+AlternateHistoryHub where do you go to collage
@kaiseramadeus233
@kaiseramadeus233 9 жыл бұрын
+Checkthe TET Stop stalking him
@bless7213
@bless7213 9 жыл бұрын
+Kaiser Amadeus no, I must
@therealmaskriz5716
@therealmaskriz5716 9 жыл бұрын
Early for me.
@asadahmed2388
@asadahmed2388 8 жыл бұрын
What if The Ottoman Empire never collapsed.
@Sireas93
@Sireas93 9 жыл бұрын
Finally a history channel which is not fully american oriented and where people have knowledge of history. Miracles happen.
@gtaddict3666
@gtaddict3666 4 жыл бұрын
LONG LIVE IRAQ 🇮🇶✌🏻🇮🇶✌🏻🇮🇶
@gtaddict3666
@gtaddict3666 3 жыл бұрын
@پێشمەرگە Fk biden & Fk kurdstan
@gtaddict3666
@gtaddict3666 3 жыл бұрын
@پێشمەرگە You are just outsiders on our land, go back to Iran
@joker-gs9cq
@joker-gs9cq 3 жыл бұрын
IRAQ sucks
@jjcanyon
@jjcanyon 9 жыл бұрын
Cody, I don't know if you take suggestions from videos like this, but while I was peeing today I thought of a really good one.
@DocWolph
@DocWolph 9 жыл бұрын
What if the space race never ended? What if America, mostly or entirely, withdrew from the world to solve its own problems? America embraces isolationism.
@DocWolph
@DocWolph 9 жыл бұрын
SuperSmashyfication I am sure FDR's efforts, to [realign the flow of] wealth into a more equitable circle instead of a one-way beltfeed to the wealthy, did more to fix the Great Depression, which like EVERY economic disaster that has hit this country was started by the super wealthy trying to take/make more than the system can stand. All this while maintaining America's political and military isolationism. The US was NOT commercially Isolationist. America minded its own business and defended its own borders, until the Japanese attacked. More than anything WW2 was more or less a MASSIVE jobs program, just when America needed it. If not for the Great Depression, American response to Pearl Harbor and so the Wars in Europe and the Pacific would have been far faster and more robust.
@heinzthorvald4675
@heinzthorvald4675 9 жыл бұрын
Good analysis
@RomLoneWolf23
@RomLoneWolf23 9 жыл бұрын
Also, as a Quebecois, I'd like to see you tackle a scenario where the Province of Quebec voted for Independence during the 1980 Referendum.
@Daniel-rh7kh
@Daniel-rh7kh 9 жыл бұрын
Good work aa ever :)
@TexMexAlex
@TexMexAlex 9 жыл бұрын
Can you do an episode on "What if Gore beat Bush in the 2000 election?"
@JoshuaXRamey
@JoshuaXRamey 9 жыл бұрын
Just watched Persepolis today in film class.
@boldlybravo2492
@boldlybravo2492 9 жыл бұрын
+Joshua Ramey gud 4 U M8
@JoshuaXRamey
@JoshuaXRamey 9 жыл бұрын
zach trausan Is that sarcasm?
@boldlybravo2492
@boldlybravo2492 9 жыл бұрын
***** no
@JoshuaXRamey
@JoshuaXRamey 9 жыл бұрын
zach trausan okay just checking
@trip2hell1
@trip2hell1 9 жыл бұрын
+Joshua Ramey was it good?
@hdoshsishhsjshsksb4144
@hdoshsishhsjshsksb4144 4 жыл бұрын
we still won Iraq baby🇮🇶🇮🇶🇮🇶🇮🇶🇮🇶🇮🇶🇮🇶🇮🇶🇮🇶🇮🇶🇮🇶🇮🇶🇮🇶🇮🇶
@kharmashti4467
@kharmashti4467 2 жыл бұрын
Iraq is under iran lamo
@360Nomad
@360Nomad 9 жыл бұрын
If Iraq had won the war, South Park: Bigger Longer and Uncut wouldn't exist.
@MrZZooh
@MrZZooh 3 жыл бұрын
If Saddam actually annexed Khuzestan from Iran, he would have definitely replaced Saudi Arabia as the heavyweight at OPEC and the US and EU would have had to play ball with him. He might have gone after Israel given his bloodlust, and that would have again allied America and her lackies against Saddam since Israel is such an apple of the eye for America. That might have actually been good for peace between Iran and Israel! Weird how that works.
@Rert
@Rert 9 жыл бұрын
hey man love your stuff would you consider doing a (what if the Darien scheme had succeeded) episode.
@realazduffman
@realazduffman 6 жыл бұрын
Saddam always made the same mistake. He thought an initial victory sealed the war and stopped his attack. Each time this allowed the enemy to regroup and defeat him.
@mestre12
@mestre12 9 жыл бұрын
Cody i have a good one for you. I just watched Extra History, from the folks of Extra Credits, and they are telling the History of Admiral Yi and how he pretty much saved Korea from Japan Conquest. So here my suggestion: What if Japan had won the War against Korea?
@BigBobsh2o
@BigBobsh2o 9 жыл бұрын
I can't help but wonder if the cost of converting from fossil fuels would have been cheaper for the U.S than being involved in all these Mid-East conflicts and other B.S. since the 1970's?
@persianguy1524
@persianguy1524 9 жыл бұрын
one thing to note, arabs in khuzestan form a very small minority of about 15-20%, most khuzestanis are Persian. only ahvas is arab majority by a small percentage, hence why the seperatist movement is called al ahvaz. furthermore, there are more ethnic Persians in iraq and the Persian gulf.
@Fawaz4321
@Fawaz4321 9 жыл бұрын
What if Palestine rejected to accept Jewish settlers and refugees back in the 1930s-1940s
@ShionKenobi
@ShionKenobi 9 жыл бұрын
+Fawaz_Kuwaiti Palestine was a colony of UK this times. They would just be forced to accept. Rothchild influence too stronk...
@1992SmartBrain
@1992SmartBrain 9 жыл бұрын
Despite being geographically removed from the American colonies, Russia under Catherine the Great significantly affected the American Revolution through trade and diplomacy. What if the Russian Empire did not trade with the colonies? What if the Russian Empire picked sides during the Revolutionary War? What would happen if the Russian Empire accepted Britain's requests for assistance against the colonies? During peace talks in Vienna, what if Empress Catherine the Great introduced a proposal addressing whether America would become autonomous?
@anthonylong9067
@anthonylong9067 9 жыл бұрын
What would happen if the USA didnt nuke japan during WW2 but opted for the alternative full on invasion of japan?
@Alovii-81
@Alovii-81 9 жыл бұрын
There would have been mass death on both sides, from soldiers during in battle and the Japanese commuting seppuku, which is a ritual suicide of they are dishonored, which they would have been when they lost a battle and lands fell to the allies. I would estimate that Japan's population would be nearly halved because of battles lost and citizens commuting seppuku. So actually the abombs would result in less death than a land invasion.
@Duke_of_Lorraine
@Duke_of_Lorraine 9 жыл бұрын
+Anthony Long the war would also be longer, and with the Soviets attacking (the bomb was the excuse to surrender to only the USA... a better choice than also surrendering to the USSR), Japan would maybe have parts controlled by the USSR, or possibly all of Korea. So, more damage for Japan, a war more costly for the USA and the USSR gets more powerful in the region. Now, without the demonstration of nukes, sure the Soviets would take longer to take interest in it, but I hardly believe peace could have been held in the aftermath of the war, possibly very quickly triggering WW3. Overall I think the western block would have won (the USA had a fantastic economy during WWII while the USSR struggled very hard) but at what cost ?
@bernardobiritiki
@bernardobiritiki 9 жыл бұрын
+scarfacemperor yes the US had a good economy but shall i remind you the soviets outnumberd the allies 3 to1 all that cash ismt going to help you if the red flag is flying over buckingham palace wile stalin is giving his victory speach
@tecknitian4514
@tecknitian4514 9 жыл бұрын
+Anthony Long As someone said before me, nuking a city and killing many people and invading a country and killing many people is very different. Why? Because even if invading the country killed the same amount of people as nuking the city, the death of the people in the city is the death of *innocent civilians*.
@Alovii-81
@Alovii-81 9 жыл бұрын
Tecknitian Those same citizens and hundreds of thousands more most likely would have committed seppuku, like I said before as well. Along with both allied and axis soldiers adding to the death toll. Yea nuking a city is bad, and in most cases unnecessary, but in this case, the nukes would have killed less than a land invasion. And both senerios lead to a Japanese surrender.
@bunney3272
@bunney3272 9 жыл бұрын
What if the Soviet Union joined NATO in 1954?
@kaiseramadeus233
@kaiseramadeus233 9 жыл бұрын
Didn't they create the Warsaw Pact just before?
@bunney3272
@bunney3272 9 жыл бұрын
Kaiser Amadeus They made a request to join NATO in 1954
@kaiseramadeus233
@kaiseramadeus233 9 жыл бұрын
Sir George Severn But the Warsaw Pact was signed around this time, right?
@bunney3272
@bunney3272 9 жыл бұрын
Kaiser Amadeus Request was made.
@kaiseramadeus233
@kaiseramadeus233 9 жыл бұрын
Sir George Severn I know, but there is no way they could have joined.
@JacksonNoWay
@JacksonNoWay 9 жыл бұрын
Why did you make Sadam Canadian?
@sepehrbass5953
@sepehrbass5953 9 жыл бұрын
thanks for the great vid ! great as allways! but i believe that iranians wouldnt just tolerasted the defeat they would have strike back . this war really put my country in a bad shape :(
@panzerfaust3607
@panzerfaust3607 9 жыл бұрын
what if the Soviets and Finns hadnt signed the 1940 peace treaty in time so that British and French troops had arrived and joined the Finns against the Soviets, causing WW2 to be completely different?
@TheHomerjt
@TheHomerjt 9 жыл бұрын
I know this is an alternative history channel, but I may have an idea based off one of my favourite games. My idea is what if in our timeline, the events of the Raccoon City Incident from Resident Evil 2 and 3 were to happen in our world? What would our response to such an incident be, and what would be the consequences of such an event in our world be as well?
@firewolfandrewb
@firewolfandrewb 9 жыл бұрын
What if Alexander the Great lived long enough to stabilize his empire so it didn't collapse after his death?
@matthewjohnson303
@matthewjohnson303 7 жыл бұрын
cool vid
@bishop253
@bishop253 8 жыл бұрын
So ironically, things "may" have been better if Sadam got what he wanted.
@FedericoB1976
@FedericoB1976 9 жыл бұрын
Hi! Thanks for another great video! I have a suggestion for a new one: what if Trotski became chief of Ussr instead of Stalin?
@merc880
@merc880 9 жыл бұрын
i would be interested to hearing your views on what if the balfour declaration never took place.
@kratosboy5557
@kratosboy5557 Жыл бұрын
The fact that he wasn’t afraid to die is badass
@sina121just
@sina121just 8 жыл бұрын
Thank you for using the correct name of Persian Gulf, It was, is, will be always Persian Gulf. respect
@باقرعلي-ج9ج
@باقرعلي-ج9ج 4 жыл бұрын
Well it has a lot of names The first one was the summarians gulf back in 5000 B.C
@gtaddict3666
@gtaddict3666 4 жыл бұрын
@@باقرعلي-ج9ج That’s true
@SisSasSus
@SisSasSus 9 жыл бұрын
What if Finland took part in the siege of Leningrad and Stalingrad during WWII? I mean, the finns DID actually take part in the siege, but there was really no artillery or anything like that coming from the finns, even though the germans insisted that Finland would aid them in their cause. If Finland had helped Germany to take over Leningrad, it would have had a possibly major impact, since Leningrad was a huge loss to Germany, who was stuck there for the winter.
@wewillrock245
@wewillrock245 9 жыл бұрын
What if Opreation Sealion went through and succeed against all odds
@indrasishmajumder6359
@indrasishmajumder6359 5 жыл бұрын
I really hate it when it goes like IT WAS DESTINY IT CAN'T CHANGE!
@Ragheed_Lasoo
@Ragheed_Lasoo 2 жыл бұрын
Iraq did win 🏆
@yourneighbormordecai
@yourneighbormordecai 9 жыл бұрын
Hi AlternateHistoryHub! I just discovered your channel and I love the videos I've seen so far. I was wondering if you could do a video about Snowpiercer. It's a 2013 film about how the world's temperature rising causes scientists to launch a cooling agent into the air to regulate the temperature. But instead of regulating the temperature the cooling agent freezes the entire Earth. After this the rest of the Earth's population is put on to a train called Snowpiercer. The passengers are divided into sections divided by their social status. The poor are put into the back of the train and are treated terribly while the rich are put into the front and are given many luxuries. This causes one passenger in the back to start a rebellion to get to the front and take over the train. It's a fantastic movie that I think you should check out. I was wondering if you could make a video about Snowpiercer to see what would happen if the Earth did freeze and people were put on the Snowpiercer and were divided into classes like they were in the movie. Would a rebellion actually occur or would something else happen?
@azrielmoha6877
@azrielmoha6877 9 жыл бұрын
Next Video Idea: What if the lore of Marvel Universe/Marvel Cinematic Universe existed (HYDRA, SHIELD, numerous fictional countries, the idea of powered people, etc) It would be interesting.
@gtaddict3666
@gtaddict3666 4 жыл бұрын
The summerians gulf back in 6000 b.c
@torn2001
@torn2001 6 жыл бұрын
Bro we’re do you get your music you use in your videos? There sick 😎👍🏻
@chessmanzender7530
@chessmanzender7530 9 жыл бұрын
why did you use Syrian flag On Iraq?
@karbingamer8118
@karbingamer8118 3 жыл бұрын
as a kurdish 17 year old i can say say that if iraq would have won,then my intire ethnicity would not be here today. and would most likely be kickid out of the kurdistan region of iraq into western iran or eastern turcky,wich quite frankly,i don't know wich one would have been worse.
@ecksdee1637
@ecksdee1637 3 жыл бұрын
I Love you from a Shia Arab Iraqi Death to Saddam 👞
@taiyeebmuhtadi
@taiyeebmuhtadi 2 жыл бұрын
@@ecksdee1637 He already died lmao and languishing in hell
@ryanh9262
@ryanh9262 9 жыл бұрын
what if pepsi was better than coke?
@hugheverett3789
@hugheverett3789 9 жыл бұрын
Im new on this channel so i dont know if you uploaded it yet, but one i would highly recommend is "What if Nazis won WW2?"
@seanbwhitworth4512
@seanbwhitworth4512 8 жыл бұрын
At 5:45 Saddam and the two men on the left look very similar... was Saddam trying to clone himself.
@thschnick
@thschnick 9 жыл бұрын
You should do some more Alternate history fan made countries.
@leotwersky4279
@leotwersky4279 5 жыл бұрын
Iraq very well could have won, if only (no offense to the late great Saddam) Saddam wasn't as stupid as he was. Just like Stalin, Saddam feared "Napoleonic" generals so extraordinary that they're a threat to his power. So, Saddam expelled and demoted many leading Iraqi officers, and took the war into his own hands. He -like Hitler- made an army group north, center, and south, and expected the whole line to be pushed back all the way to the Caspian Sea to encircle Tehran. The only problem was that the army groups north and center were instantly bogged down in the Zagros Mountains, forcing his army group south to make little gains in Khuzestan. It would be awesome to see an alternate history where he was smart and put only an weaker army group center, and an overpowered army group south, along with a two-front alliance with Pakistani dictator Muhammad Zia-ul-Haq who would invade through Balochistan. The Ayatollah would be squashed in this case.
@alexsmith9265
@alexsmith9265 9 жыл бұрын
it would be cool to see what happens if Stalin didn't take power in the USSR, either Lenin lived longer or Trotsky took power
@KingExituS
@KingExituS 9 жыл бұрын
What if the Byzantine Romans won at Battle of Yarmouk What if Crassus beat Parthians at Carrhae What if Toyotomi invasion of Korea succeeded What if Soviets won at Winter war
@claytonjenison2464
@claytonjenison2464 6 жыл бұрын
Love the channel btw. I don't know if you have done a video about this before but.... What if during the first gulf war there wasn't cease fire but the US turned north and went to Baghdad? Would the second gulf war ever happened? I am writing a history paper about the Desert Storm and was like thinking about it. If you have done a video like this please let me know so I can watch it.
@sherifelsharkawyful
@sherifelsharkawyful 7 жыл бұрын
Your military analysis is flawed as always. Iraq had FAR more potential to win this war than most people give it credit. Military analysts in the late 80's predicted that Iraq would have the won had the war continued into the 90's (and they made those predictions before the war had ended in mid to late 1988) because Iraq was killing Iran economically. There were staggering differences in both militaries and Iran's post-1979 military was vastly inferior to that of Iraq. Despite having the capacity to mobilize 6.2 million men, Iran's military was still a weak force, under-trained, under-supplied, poor logistics and poor leadership. Iraq's military by contrast could only deploy 2 million men, yet they had a better trained army and air force, they had tons of foreign backing including loans and financial aid but they also had really poor leadership, just like Iran. I have to hand it to Iran, at the start of the war they inherited the Shah's highly equipped army which had tons of state of art American equipment which was really new. Their flagship fighter jet was the F-14 and they also had several F-5s and F-4s. Iraq had Soviet tech at the start, which is absolutely top tier and excellent, but they had older Soviet equipment (the USSR, unlike the US, was reluctant to export its newest equipment, so the best stuff always stayed behind the Iron Curtain) like MiG-21s, MiG-19s, SU-20s and MiG-23s. All these jets are great in their own right, but it was outdated compared to the stuff Iran had at the start. Despite this, at the beginning of the war Iranian F-14s and F-5s were shot down in scores by older MiG-23s. In fact, by the end of the war Iraq had lost 79 fixed winged aircraft compared to Iran's loss of 234 aircraft (not including helicopters for either one). Iran's poorly trained militias died in scores. From 1982 until 1988 Iraq held off two dozen Iranian offensives. Iraq's Popular Army, which was made as a garrison and was far more poorly armed and trained than the Regular Army, was better equipped than Iran's Revolutionary Guards who were Iran's finest troops! Iraq maintained air superiority throughout the course of the war and made the War of the Cities one sided because they inflicted more damage on Iranian cities and infrastructure than Iran had done to Iraq. Whenever troops were brought to the front from Iran's major cities to the frontline with Iran's poor infrastructure, Iraqi aircraft would bomb them and cripple their ability to make more. Iraq also sought after much higher value targets than Iran. They bombed more economic complexes and supply roads, reducing Iran's ability to make war. By contrast, Iran's priorities are mostly in the wrong place. They seek out capturing geographic territory rather than primarily attacking Iraq's economic and military infrastructure. Iraq was able to create the world's first aerial blockade ever when they bombed the Khrag Island Oil Complex, which was responsible for 80% of Iran's oil revenue. They managed to prevent Iran from selling its oil, which was already being sold at below market price because of Iran's diplomatic and economic isolation post-1979. You mention in the video that Iraq could have won if they held on the defensive and bled out Iranian manpower. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT THEY DID! In fact, they could have won the war if it hadn't ended with the forced armistice in 1988. If the war had gone on to 1990, Iraq would have won for sure. If the Iraqis wanted to win within the 8 years of the war, they simply needed better leadership. Iraq's T-62s destroyed masses of Iranian Chieftains (God help them if they had met the T-72s!) and their older MiGs easily scrapped Iran's air force. Consider also that at the start Iraq was weaker, towards the middle and end they acquired all sorts of new technology which gave Iran an even harder time! They got F1 Mirages and MiG-25s later on in the war and even more foreign backing while Iran ran around looking for equipment from the USSR, China and North Korea to replace the massive losses they had suffered. By the end of the war, Iran's military had been reduced and had far more equipment at the start then it did at the end of the War. Iraq, on the other hand, was in a stronger military and economic position. They did suffer problems, but far less so than Iran and their military had more tanks and jets than it did at the start, unlike Iran. So in conclusion, your military analysis of this war is very poor and simplistic, but I am not surprised especially considering how many of your other videos share this simplicity and lack of knowledge of warfare. You said it yourself: "Saddam knew nothing about warfare" but neither do you.
@train884
@train884 6 жыл бұрын
no
@Yourdrunkuncledave
@Yourdrunkuncledave 6 жыл бұрын
U mad bro?
@beautifulaffliction1742
@beautifulaffliction1742 6 жыл бұрын
Sherif El Sharkawy well said
@beautifulaffliction1742
@beautifulaffliction1742 6 жыл бұрын
Sherif El Sharkawy good analysis sir
@JosephJoboLicayan
@JosephJoboLicayan 9 жыл бұрын
Here's a great one; -What if the Internet never got implemented or invented AT ALL? How would it affect communication and culture of the entire world as we know it? What would happen to the future of Video Games if KZbin and Google was not around? How will this affect wars and politics as a whole and alot of other factors?
@alialahmad4329
@alialahmad4329 5 жыл бұрын
we arabs believe that saddam declared the war because USA told him it would help him because of the hate to Iran government and they didn't help enough
@xuda7100
@xuda7100 9 жыл бұрын
here are a few ideas for future videos.1:what if imperial china never collapsed in 1911 and china never became communist? an is still under imperial rule today?2: what if Truman decided to invade japan at the end of ww2 instead of dropping the atomic bombs?3: what if Hitler never attacked the soviets in ww2?4: what if the Vietnam war never happened?5:what if America won the war of 1812 (as in conquering Canada)?
@dr.armanassadi5736
@dr.armanassadi5736 8 жыл бұрын
what if state of Israel never formed in occupied Palestinian lands? It has been a game changer in middle east, ever since!
@shaqip
@shaqip 6 жыл бұрын
Every Palestinian just sighed at the same time at the question. Please don't make this video, it would depress millions :(
@P1utia
@P1utia Жыл бұрын
Palestine would be a short lived democratic state until the late 60s then it would have been seized by the Fatah or some other Baathist party in Palestine. Would be much worse due to a different civil war occuring in Palestine after Arab Spring.
@MrX-fv8pi
@MrX-fv8pi 8 жыл бұрын
Just like what you said, due to the Iran's military strength and more extensive geographical area, it was impossible for Iraq to take over Iran.
@illestmelody6909
@illestmelody6909 3 жыл бұрын
Iraq won
@brightburnedits4278
@brightburnedits4278 2 жыл бұрын
You mean iran won
@illestmelody6909
@illestmelody6909 2 жыл бұрын
@@brightburnedits4278 nah iraq did
@brightburnedits4278
@brightburnedits4278 2 жыл бұрын
@@illestmelody6909 kid pls iraq lose always to iran
@franciscosanchezh3368
@franciscosanchezh3368 9 жыл бұрын
alternate history hub could you please do what if Mexico lost The battle of puebla against the french may 5 1862 and keep your good history videos I really enjoy them:)
@italladdsup796
@italladdsup796 7 жыл бұрын
This is what i feel that people who do not know history say to sound intelligent. what if america won the siege of leningrad? what if america won the franco-prussian war what if america invented the atomic bomb what if america won the battle of britain in 1492
@nottherealpaulsmith
@nottherealpaulsmith 7 жыл бұрын
what if america wasn't american?
@alyssinclair8598
@alyssinclair8598 6 жыл бұрын
italladdsup what if America did not capture Berlin in world war 1?
@cblars
@cblars 9 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a video about what NYC would be like if it stayed a Dutch colony and functioned like Hong Kong did under British rule.
@jonathansnyder6334
@jonathansnyder6334 9 жыл бұрын
What if.. This comment never existed.
@MrHoeBow
@MrHoeBow 7 жыл бұрын
Johann Adam Weishaupt an* we would have AN efficient cure to AIDS...
@Thatoneangryelf
@Thatoneangryelf 9 жыл бұрын
I think one should consider the implications of the Arab spring, when discussing the future of an Iraq which would continue to be under the rule of the Baathist party. Whether or not Saddam´s power would be seriously shaken by the democratic movements(and potentially rebels) is uncertain, but he might be condemned by the US for suppressing them.
@iquestioneverything3426
@iquestioneverything3426 9 жыл бұрын
what if religion never existed ?
@iquestioneverything3426
@iquestioneverything3426 9 жыл бұрын
***** other things such as ?
@freeze2602
@freeze2602 9 жыл бұрын
there would never be wars lmfao
@duckasarus3663
@duckasarus3663 9 жыл бұрын
Impossible. With an intelligence of humans it would of happened. Nothing can change it
@iquestioneverything3426
@iquestioneverything3426 9 жыл бұрын
***** no we wont kill each other, since ive seen many tribes on my country that dont have any religion, but still survive to this day
@iquestioneverything3426
@iquestioneverything3426 9 жыл бұрын
*****​​​​ the same people will be born, but their beliefs will be different, and science theory will not make people kill each other, because science doesn't give orders to kill anyone 
@lewiswillcox8634
@lewiswillcox8634 9 жыл бұрын
What if the jacobite rebellion of 1745 was successful and the Stuarts seized the throne? 2. What if Andrew de Moray didn't die after the battle if Stirling bridge? 3. What if the picts, gaels and Scots never united to form Scotland?
@ryanafshar4991
@ryanafshar4991 9 жыл бұрын
IRAN IS MY COUNTRY AND IT SHALL WIN IN THE MIDDLE EAST! (its just iranian patriotic stuff dont judge) ;)
@ather4300
@ather4300 8 жыл бұрын
My Moms Iranian.
@tungstenwall474
@tungstenwall474 9 жыл бұрын
What if: In WWII Italy was able to hold its own/secure North Africa. Would this have a significant impact on the war?
@clone9159
@clone9159 5 жыл бұрын
Palestine isn’t in the Baathist party.
@yaakhee
@yaakhee 6 жыл бұрын
Iraq winning the war would probably have removed one of the major motivations of Osama bin laden. Iraq would never have been a threat to Saudi Arabia, never prompting Saudi Arabia to seek to protect itself from Iraqi invasion by inviting an American military presence on its territory. Osama bin laden hated America for its invasion as he saw it (amongst other things) of the Islamic holy land. But having said that Saddam Hussein was not sane and just as in our timeline his expansionist ideology led him into conflict with nato it probably would have done at some point in an alternative history too.
@TURBOMIKEIFY
@TURBOMIKEIFY 6 жыл бұрын
This made the movie “Jarhead” make so much more sense. Fuckin hell, I’m watching that shit again now.
@coopermoore3914
@coopermoore3914 9 жыл бұрын
when are you uploading another alternate countries episode? and can we still enter new countries?
@slobasnajper1166
@slobasnajper1166 9 жыл бұрын
Make an episode like this about Yugoslav's homeland war
@lucasandrade2640
@lucasandrade2640 9 жыл бұрын
NEXT VIDEO IDEA:What if France won the napoleonic wars? or what if france won the franco-prussian war or even what if france won the 7 years war
@garybusey1772
@garybusey1772 9 жыл бұрын
can you do a video on if alexander the great had lived longer and continued with his conquests
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