America's Twin Cannon Artillery Helicopter is Wild

[@calebkelly8221]

When it's the marine corps turn to design a helicopter

[@user-McGiver]

@@frankdrebinn is that a promice?.... lol

[@CosmicTaco333]

The idea would be feasible but only if the plans were written in crayon.

[@calebkelly8221]

@@frankdrebinn a wise man once said of the US armed forces that there are actually only two branches of the military: the Army and the Navy. The Coast guard doesn't count, the Air Force is a corporate entity, and the Marine Corps is a cult.

[@bryankotsch]

Army tried a howitzer in a Chinook. It wasn't feasible.

[@thenerv37]

It would be cool for a tech reboot I'm for the Corps testing on the osprey!

[@papasyscon6037]

"I bet it's gonna be really difficult to spend all this taxpayer money." "Actually, Sir, it'll be super easy, barely an inconvenience."

[@Make-Asylums-Great-Again]

👌

[@AtlasJotun]

Oh, really?

[@Dragon-77D9]

Oh wow wow wow... wow

[@lonnyyoung4285]

(Stares blankly in disbelief...)

[@wvvwwvwvv]

LMFAOOO

[@CrypidLore]

Why aren't there 2 Howitzers on that platform?

[@williamyoung9401]

This just in: The Air Force is designing an even larger helicopter so 120mm artillery cannons can be attached to it. (joke)

[@infinitybeyond6357]

@@williamyoung9401 don't forget, mounted internally, for stealth.

[@torcheddreadnought899]

EXACTLY! 😅

[@pistonburner6448]

Russians and Ukrainians lob expensive rockets with expensive fighter jets from far back -> artillery on helicopters can be more flexible, safer (less time being vulnerable), can be forward-deployed, are more accurate with the same range. And the cost is immensely lower. Only main gripe is why two? One is enough, allowing for more rounds and better performance. Modify the helicopter design to wrap around the gun rather than add another heavy unit to destroy performance and payload.

[@chartreux1532]

As a German (Veteran and now working as Historian focusing on Contemporary German History) This has to be the most German Thing the US Military ever considered/did. Reminds me a lot of what the German Military was doing throughout World War 2. Focus on over the top weird Ideas and try to make them real (and in some cases made them real) instead of focusing on what already works and just produce more of it. I mean, we had Stuka Bombers with huge Cannons, which turned out to work pretty well to be fair. But most Stuff didn't Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps

[@jamesfrantz9075]

Can you imagine having two howitzers going off next to the cockpit? "Your hearing loss is not service related..."

[@TobyCatVA]

huh?

[@Dragon-77D9]

​@@TobyCatVAWhat!?

[@AbuHajarAlBugatti]

They already sit next to giant rotors with superloud motors

[@patrickancona1193]

Their moving fast they won’t hear $hit

[@atomica0914]

Special headphones

[@pixellordm8780]

AC-130s Cousin. If the AC-130 Is the angel of death does this make this fella the Cherub of doom?

[@MooseBme]

🤔🤣❤😉👍!

[@davesprivatelounge]

lmao

[@thesaddestdude3575]

After all it is rotund and chubby

[@calebkelly8221]

@@pixellordm8780 the imp of destruction, the seraph of slaughter, the parabola of mystery, the hellhound of havoc, the watcher of war crimes, the deity of devastation I could go on. Jesus's jackhammer, the Earth's revolver, That Which Makes The Sea Red, She Who Thirsts, omnipotent omnivore, Biden's Buzzsaw, Sadr City typewriter, the desert broom with hella kaboom, Hell's Receptionist, the glass factory, the unmaker (because we want to invoke memories of a powerful godkiller of a gun, not some piece of shit vehined a locked door) the shatterer, the red white and blue menace, the grave maker Ok I'm done wasting time on this post. I've already forgot what the point of it was lol

[@williamyoung9401]

You made me look it up. Kudos. 👍

[@owd200]

This is some Warhammer 40k type weapons development program thinking, and I'm 100% here for it.

[@dragonraptor9756]

We’s got da orkiest defcoptaz around.

[@mikssityar3363]

NEEDS MOAR DAKKA!

[@Smitellos]

or crossout post apocalyptic style, where its rn actual ingame strat. Oh and also you an use recoil to dodge incoming projectiles.

[@KaijuBiologist]

Yep, definitely some W40k wackiness here. Paint it red and purple, and the Orks would love it.

[@tiny_tex]

Air Force: "we want to retire the A-10" MQ-9 with a GAU-8 in a pod: "Hello."

[@khanhnguyen-tt3ff]

The air force never want to retire the a 10

[@mrman5666]

have you heard of a missile it better then a gun now do to modernization as were not in the 50s or 30s

[@RonJohn63]

@@khanhnguyen-tt3ff for 10 years, they've been trying to retire it. Congress keeps saying "keep them".

[@hellzshotgun]

​@khanhnguyen-tt3ff That's untrue. I think Cappy actually has a video on it.

[@mjk9388]

You could do the same thing with the Sky Warden too as it has the ability to carry gun pods on it's hardpoints with either .50 cal or 20mm. Not sure how much ammo it'd be able to carry vs the A-10, but having a slower firing rate would conserve more ammo and might make up a little of the difference. The Sky Warden would also be cheaper to operate in terms of maintenance costs than the MQ-9. Although, it's not suitable for all mission profiles. Still, I do like the idea of a MQ-9 with a big Gau-8 ( 'Merica! ).

[@ClericChris]

I learned today that I was a high level DoD design engineer throughout my time as a grade school student. I filled multiple Mead notebooks with feasible death machines. From flying tanks to rocket powered attack helicopters with 10-20 fire breathing Gatlin guns and laser head chopper-offers.

[@Make-Asylums-Great-Again]

🦅

[@OranutYatthaisong]

😂❤Hubort PNo.1 Engeineering 🥰🥰🥰😘😘 Forget Whole Pony Kichen Crazy 😂😂have lernning 😮😮 🤪🤪🤪Samee Hubort ❤❤❤❤

[@freddiemercury2075]

Or you could just get a single Chuck Norris.

[@DeHerg]

Hello there Mike Sparks

[@TheCool_Guy23]

This is the definition of "MOR DAKKA!"

[@ligmasack9038]

nah, just bigger Dakka.

[@khatack]

Next they'll start painting the army humvees red ^^

[@TheIndianaGeoff]

@khatack Have we tried painting the Chinook Red?

[@khatack]

@@TheIndianaGeoff I don't think so, might be worth a try ^^

[@TheCool_Guy23]

@@TheIndianaGeoff nah, it needs to be yellow for more speed

[@davidcox3076]

My son and I visited Rock Island earlier this year. The museum has a display dedicated to this wacky concept. Well worth the visit!

[@aaronbresnick2367]

We love unhinged Military plans

[@meanman6992]

Remember the destroyer made of ice/sawdust pikcrete I think it’s called… almost unsinkable ship… Military literally only didn’t do it because it was just to strange, the prototype actually worked very well.

[@davesprivatelounge]

sometimes I wonder how much more unhinged ideas could have gotten if the cold war never ended

[@davidanalyst671]

the ghostrider is an unhinged military plan, but it works

[@ZetaArcticana4006]

@@meanman6992That’s project Habakkuk and it wasn’t a destroyer, it was an aircraft carrier.

[@Bad-Karma]

But have you seen the plans to turn the B-1B into a gunship? Not only artillery but mass grenade and morter launchers....

[@RogerSmith-h3i]

There is actually a145 kg Version of an German 30mm recoilless gun with the kinetic energy of a A10 GAU-8/A round. As you mentioned Drones. It was developed for an U-boat Periscope to shoot warning shots while submerged.

[@cpt.mirones5109]

dont forget the 14 Inch recoilless gun for anti shiping that was suposed to go under a twin engine bomber. cant remember Dornier or Junkers.

[@BigGreen945]

Could see this becoming a killstreak reward in a Call of Duty game

[@thesaddestdude3575]

We need this in Warthunder

[@wirebrushproductions1001]

There was a helicopter unit in Vietnam which did a lot of wild and crazy experimentation. One project took a Chinook and mounted 3 19-tube rocket ponds on each side, arranged in a diagonal. It worked a treat in terms of bringing pee on target, but heavy fire rates tended to rip the siding off the bird.

[@adamconnell5965]

At NO POINT EVER has ANYONE said "Man! We need less gunships..."

[@CultureCrossed64]

It's never been said in the history of the world

[@kurtwicklund8901]

Except during the entirety of the ongoing war in Ukraine. Turns out MANPADS exist these days.

[@rayzerot]

I dunno. Cut out a little military waste and we could guarantee healthcare for every man, woman, and child in the US. We already do it for seniors. It'd be less expensive than that to change it to Medicare for All

[@human4116]

@@rayzerot You absolutely could not. You severely underestimate how much healthcare costs for 333million people, especially for one of the least healthy countries in the world

[@ArchetypalCat]

Hoot !

[@scottlidstone1902]

As an Ork player, this seems like sensible and well thought out concept.

[@andy4an]

the graphics team is ON POINT today. well done with this silliness.

[@RocketSurgn_]

Just perfectly done, exactly the correct level of serious engineering thought into the graphics, haha!

[@AlexLee-dc2vb]

I forgot how much I love videos about Cappy nerding out over obscure equipment. Not that I don’t also love the historical/geopolitical analysis.

[@f.b.l.9813]

Command and Conquer Combat Chinooks!

[@GrimmKnightReaper]

Or GDI Mohawk gunship

[@samsonsoturian6013]

Screw that game

[@johnlucas6683]

Hahaha Yes! But, this is better than the Air Force General combat chinook.

[@GrimmKnightReaper]

@@samsonsoturian6013 the Rivals right?

[@HandsomeSquidward-q7g]

@@GrimmKnightReaper Yes, from that abomination that should not be named in polite company, much like Tiberian Twilight...

[@lonjohnson5161]

I believe "Chinook" should be pronounced as "Shinook". Also, as crazy as the idea is, I still love it. Chinook: Say hello to my little friends.

[@wookieefaced1595]

Correct. And the Vertol division is pronounced "Ver-toll". I actually cringed when he said "Verdle".

[@sundragon7703]

Sometimes "out of the box" thinking results in a good idea. In WW2, a group of guys (probably in a bar) thought, "Hey, what if we put a cannon in a bomber?!?" Thus the idea of the B-25 G/H was conceived.

[@colingriffiths3091]

They only put a 30mm in B25. Not 105 bit of a difference

[@Dogmeat1950]

​@colingriffiths3091 false: @sundragon7703 is correct and it was the same cannon used on a Sherman tank They also had a varient of B-25 that had 12x 50.cals all forward facing. Also a B-24 with 6x 50 Cals & 4 20mm cannons

[@RonJohn63]

The Germans tried it before the 'Muricans. Neither country was very successful.

[@colingriffiths3091]

@@Dogmeat1950 about what?

[@colingriffiths3091]

@@Dogmeat1950 there wasn't anything bigger put on a aircraft until the 105 which was put on the C130.

[@Sean-u8e]

Week end project thumbs up on all the new stuff

[@RavenAdventwings]

"Siege Chopper, checking in." Man, US DoD proposal plans are absolutely peak. If I'm ever in need of fictional military units, I can always count on the US DoD to do the brainstorming for me (lol).

[@SeaJay_Oceans]

And... USA lost to the Taliban. (slow clap) Why is America so weak and easily defeated by every nation ?

[@Pystro]

That's also what I first thought about. But the thing about the siege chopper is that it lands. Which means that it can use artillery as intended (beyond line of sight), and it also won't be limited by loitering time. The siege chopper may well be the better idea. And it was supposed to be ridiculous, as almost everything in Red Alert 3.

[@lonnyyoung4285]

​@Pystro I loved those things.

[@lonnyyoung4285]

If you want to take a look at some historic USN ideas, just look at the Tillman battleships. They were the result of irritating the Bureau of Design so much that they design EXACTLY what you asked for. If you think the Iowa or (the never built) Montana class were big and powerful, wait until you look at those designs.

[@richardsbrandon5027]

Just imagine a bunch of Siege Choppers set to HM2, :)))

[@vladimirmihnev9702]

Artillery drone is never going to be approved, but a MODULAR Artillery drone, will be a slam dunk!

[@HussarPlays]

The bald eagle with arms and akimbo AR15s is this choppers spirit animal

[@dmitryfalkovich833]

screaming "what the fuck is a kilometer!!!" to the national theme playing

[@DonaldDu6k]

The Germans did put a 7,5 cm anti tank gun on Ju 88 plane, which was a relatively small plane and weighed less than a chinook. It worked, although it was inaccurate and thus deemed a failure.

[@televizor6363]

4:34 “The army was confident this plan would work, they wanted the guns to perform double duty” I swear I hear someone break down in the back 😂😂

[@t.n.h.ptheneohumanpatterna8334]

Yes I heard a laugh

[@rick-d5c]

keep up the good work, we need people like you keeping us informed the nright way, I love you brother we need you

[@kassper82]

I lol’d at how after all the “I’m bad at math” jokes you proceeded to misread the spreadsheet by calling “pounds of force” (linear force) as “pound feet” (torque). Not critiquing!!! Just made me smile. Keep up the great work, brother!

[@everettputerbaugh3996]

Most of us who remember attending remedial math just conflate the two terms anyway.

[@SabbaticusRex]

Most egregious mathematical error was assuming the military spends 3x what things are _actually_ worth and not 30,000x .

[@MightyMouse76]

This is about as American as you can get. Proud to be an American.

[@RocketSurgn_]

Everything about this is honestly wilder in the details, to me. “Only a 10% decrease in stress” in the rotor blades from just the muzzle blast… which is right beside the cockpit so it only “momentarily” might blind the pilots at night… and light it up for all to see. I imagine it’s pretty loud right there beside the pilots too. Pneumatic mail delivery tubes to reload. For 15 minutes of loiter only 100 miles from base? Fun minds were involved.

[@DeathPredator]

Fund minds*

[@user-ll4lf5go1m]

@@DeathPredator In Vietnam this would actually work supporting fire bases.

[@phantomwolf5485]

My dad is a Retired Army Huey and Cobra Pilot and told me about the CH47 Shithook called Guns A GoGo in Vietnam never heard anything about 105s, but there was a Fuckton of 20MikeMikes M2s or M3s rocket pods and Miniguns. From what he said it looked like a Porcupine. Saw a few on Static Dosplay at Fort HOOD While on Premobilization in 02/03

[@wookieefaced1595]

I really hate being a naysayer, but there's no way you saw any ACH-47's(Guns-a-go-go) at Ft. Hood, TX. There were only 4 ACH-47's ever made(Co$t of Living, Easy Money, Birth Control, and Stump Jumper). Three never made it out of Vietnam(one crashed into another aircraft while taxiing, another shot itself down, the third was destroyed by the VC), and Easy Money has been on static display at the US Army Aviation Museum at Redstone Arsenal, in Alabama, since 2000.

[@mistermonkey5842]

​@wookieefaced1595 the years pass, the vision fades, the memories become diffuse. At some point he saw Easy Money and it was 20 years ago. Let's focus on the important part, all 4 were savage machines.

[@foobar201]

The power of CAD (crayon aided design)

[@marcusosborn897]

Cappy your a genius! When can you have the mockups for a drone strapped with a 105 mm howitzer?

[@Sigma-0007_Septem]

This is peak content . Also a true !Murica! Moment

[@Anonsense-w5g]

“That’s a big chopper, must have some bigass guns.” Actually sir, it’s unarmed. “It’s what?!!”

[@Sigma-0007_Septem]

@@Anonsense-w5g exactly. Now Imagine it having the new Laser systems... or maybe Nuke Launchers

[@DavidHalko]

That is an amazing concept!!! Mobile howitzers that can be used & dropped off for field use!!!

[@casbot71]

*Rockets exists.* A simpler option, at the time, would be to just fit some kind of launcher that can be magazine fed while in flight. With a lot of spare rockets kept inside the fuselage that link into the feeding mechanism. Far less stress, the weight is mostly inboard, and it can fire salvos to blanket a target area with near simultaneous explosions.

[@doodooswirl]

Kinda like what those guys firing rockets in a ballistic trajectory in Ukraine…

[@mrsmegz]

Now I am imagining a Chinook as a hellfire missle truck taking out a hundred tanks targeted by drones with fricking laser designators.

[@Shinobubu]

rockets are more expensive to manufacture. this just requires you to load a fancy metal tube with the shell and propellant. no fancy rocket chemistry that can go fowl.

[@luislongoria6621]

​@@Shinobubuexcept when the poisonous oxidizer leaks out

[@luislongoria6621]

Anyone can shoot out the dumper with the cargo ramp down. Now imagine you just got permission to fire normally sling-loaded field artillery in flight from inside the cabin. That's what I call voodoo spooky

[@nationalsniper5413]

Air Force has AC-130 gunship. Army: We want that too!

[@sentenza5766]

You mean the US military have a florida man branch?

[@camerons6859]

From what I understand the Marines are the Florida man branch

[@justaguy5770]

The actual educated Florida men are at DARPA

[@danielshegog4811]

@@sentenza5766 yes, it's called Skunkworks🤣

[@xGriffy93]

@@danielshegog4811Skunk Works is not a military branch. It‘s a department at Lockheed Martin.

[@luislongoria6621]

JSOC Navy Squeals: When War Pigs Fly 🎥 Film at 11, 2300 Pacifc Standard Time

[@SpamMouse]

Thank you Chris.

[@reecedrystek2992]

They already had the ACH-47 helicopter in Vietnam. Not quite 105mm howitzers but logically this idea likely can exactly from that.

[@danielescobar7618]

This is what I came to comment.

[@Flakjacket96]

Thank you for letting me know of the ACH-47. I needed more of this in my life.

[@mikethompson2650]

Damn you I was going to comment as well. I remember those when I was in Jr High. Armed with a nose mounted grenade launcher then WWII style gunners along the side windows firing either LMGs, HMGs or even gatling guns. I think it even had side mounted rocket launcher pods.

[@heavenst.murgatroyd3128]

We had the nose section to "Easy Money" in Hangar 18 back on the Dark Side of the airfield at Campbell in the early - mid '90s. ACH-47A's Easy Money Stump Jumper Birth Control Co$t Of Living NSDQ

[@wretchedexcess1654]

@@heavenst.murgatroyd3128 You left out "Guns-A-Go-Go"

[@TeraQuad]

That sounds freaking cool. Probably could mount dual 40mm Bofors cannons on it.

[@Lifes-little-moments]

Exactly

[@PABCOM1]

"Siege chopper, checking in" "We got the big gun" "Airborne artillery"

[@MGM5oh]

The CH53 would make an amazing gunship

[@InternationalScoutIIHarvester]

Like a Looney Toons cartoon, fire cannon, get pushed back half a football field, run back to original spot, fire again....repeat.

[@CatsOverdrive]

Man, suddenly imagining some anime type sh!t moment where, as a SAM closes towards the chopper, the pilot and the gun crew coordinated a quick quarter-spin and fire, allowing the aircraft to quickly brush itself aside, dodging the missile.

[@parzavaal5335]

Nah @CatsOverdrive that's some A-Team shit 😭

[@MoreBollocks-ui2zs]

You know its a good video and well researched when they break out terms like "pneumonic pressure"...

[@RReese08]

I once had a crazy idea, what if they strapped one or two GAU-8 Avengers to a Chinook? What would’ve that been like? And this was just knowing a few things about the weapon and the platform, plus idle speculation. And it cost nothing to figure out. I don’t feel bad, knowing that I’m not the only person to think up totally unworkable, impractical, half-assed ideas. But I did it all on a budget of zero dollars and a couple cocktail napkins to sketch it all out.

[@anthonykaiser974]

It would require the whole cargo bay for the ammo system, as is.

[@RReese08]

@@anthonykaiser974 Yep. Pretty much.

[@VLPoirier]

As I was having this very thought I scrolled over your post, lol! But then again, why? Why two forward firing anything on a Chinook? Ya already got two side firing M-134 port & starboard. Hey, I like crazy engineering as much as the next guy, but some real taxpayers dollars went up in smoke for an idea that had not a prayer of working and no obvious mission from the get go.

[@weronikazalewska2098]

There are chinooks mounted with 2 M134 miniguns, 1 each side

[@phil20_20]

Looks like a good job for the new 50mm.

[@MrKIMBO345]

This reminded me of the EA game, General.

[@williamyoung9401]

LONG overdue for a sequel. Though the original just came out on Steam. 😁

[@kxuydhj]

120RPM artillery sounds genuinely amazing. imagine a flight of these things showing up at your doorstep, it'll make that scene from apocalypse now look like child's play.

[@lonnyyoung4285]

120 RPM is insane. I can't think of a USN vessel from around then that could match that rate of fire with even their seconday guns. The Des Moines class cruisers could, in theory, hit that fire rate, but it would be with all nine main battery guns and their autoloaders.

[@TheLiamster]

I think a better idea would be to design a “rapid dragon” payload that can dispense cruise missiles and be fitted to a Chinook

[@_droid]

Or drones. How many thousands of drones can you launch from a Chinook? Hell, the drones could even return after dropping a payload to reload and go again.

[@Demopans5990]

​@@_droid Ukrainians will have a field day

[@VLPoirier]

@@_droid I think drones of any kind would be subject to some serious/fatal downward rotor wash.

[@_droid]

@@VLPoirier They would work like any other launched thing. You drop them and then after they fall a certain distance they start up and go. Coming back might be difficult but I've flown my weak little drones in literal hurricanes many times and it's fine. Mr Steele has video(s) flying a mini-drone in the mountains with crazy wind. Recovery would just be icing, not necessary.

[@everypitchcounts4875]

Longshot drone program

[@ericorange2654]

Chinook dual wielding cannons is pretty metal

[@khatack]

You should've used the "America, fuck yeah!" song from Team America in this video ^^

[@freighttrain7143]

0:34 *_WELL YAH!!! DUH!!!_* I yelled at the screen

[@snipman8067]

I don't need to know anything else about this project. It's already perfect.

[@user-cr5jp8kd8m]

Thanks again to the very modest regular infantry man and military history teacher

[@Wyrmnax]

Its a F*ing 105mm revolver! 2 of them!

[@DaveAwesome]

I think they need to bring something like this back. This is cool and crazy AF!!

[@ajgunn3277]

[stands up and shouts at TV from couch] 'No Fire Directing Computer?!?!?! Cos WHY? Space? Weight? ITS A FUCKING RASBERRY PI !!!!!' tf man.... u gotta have some intel on that ordinance. (yours truly, DCS Chinook Driver)

[@disposabull]

I believe most of the US Navy still runs on windows 2000, they won't get to Raspberry Pi's until 2080 at the earliest.

[@bluemountain4181]

Imagine investing all the billions of dollars necessary to build heavy helicopters with dual artillery systems and then cheaping out on the aiming computer lmao

[@luislongoria6621]

Those 2600 floppy disks are still good! Don't throw them back to ROTC.. Stick that in your Garmin Nokia Blackberry Raspberry Pi-Hole TOR Server! Those wishy-washy Kodachrome NSA/NASA flip flops are still using "Sticky Red" Pole-a-droids they stole from the Triads in that tricky triangle they call the Pentagon instead using 35mm Ektar

[@luislongoria6621]

Correction: 3.5mm Headphones for Jack Tripper

[@luislongoria6621]

C-3PO has so much brass, the band can't hear him swinging when their ears are ringing from all the brass tacks they're slinging. If I'm the singer sewing jackets, shit up and do your job

[@dawgwiddaglasses]

Finally, a weapon to truly surpass metal gear.

[@indianajones4321]

Get to the CHOPPA!

[@zach11241]

*Choppa proceeds to annihilate the Predator* “Neva mind, enemy is dead”

[@Navoii.]

I think "Wild" is an understatement, and I want this in production asap

[@aaronbest747]

Bring it back with modern technology

[@timt1346]

Funny thing is they're working on all kinds of crazy projects like this, all the time. I worked on the AC-130 GWS and they had plenty of other things in the fire simultaneously. Both legacy stuff they had been working on for years (ie-rail gun) and newer stuff which had more to do with upgrades to the platform than the actual systems themselves (transitioning from Hotel and Whiskey models to J variants).

[@davidmuriithi1809]

"Let's attach a helicopter to a gun"

[@Make-Asylums-Great-Again]

Let's make an Akimbo cannon fly like a helicopter.

[@davidmuriithi1809]

@@Make-Asylums-Great-Again 😅😅

[@brianhaygood183]

I've never heard anyone mispronounce "Chinook" before.

[@macgyver5108]

I doubt New Yorkers eat much Salmon from the West Coast...

[@wookieefaced1595]

That, and "Verdle" division hurt my head. It's pronounced "Ver-toll"

[@MxMe-su1ch]

Sadly it is apparently very common in the military. The mispronunciation seems to be their official pronunciation.

[@Redact63Lluks]

​@@wookieefaced1595 the acronym VTOL isn't that complicated

[@arrjay2410]

This sounds as crazy as mounting cannons in a DC3 or a C130. If the helicopter was designed for something like this... next generation of Helicopters.

[@1FatLittleMonkey]

_"If the helicopter was designed for something like this... "_ Yeah, they needed to A-10 this. Start with the weapon and then design the helicopter around it.

[@danh6720]

This thing has been waiting for that updated AM General soft recoil system.

[@Shawn-lw3rn]

I'm so proud of our military. This is the kind of stuff that makes me want to get involved.

[@bluskytoo]

i was in AF special ops as MC-130 crew. The fun of it was just that, we got to try out all sorts crazy ideas. Sometimes we got taskings we had to turn down as it was impossible, but we would try hard in rehearsals and practice.

[@deca0]

Now this is needed for the American tech tree

[@jddes]

I love the idea of a drone that's basically a ghost gun version of artillery, just a barrel with drone props. Made cheaply and quickly and will break after a couple shots, but it can loiter anywhere and take out almost any target for a lesser cost.

[@Skinflaps_Meatslapper]

Honestly all they have to do is have the drone's cone of fire pointing mostly downward, throwing the blast away from the drone and giving it a little bit of bonus lift. A drone is already designed to handle more stress on that axis. It would be a lot more accurate than dropping mortar rounds from a hundred feet up. Being able to aim a cannon or RR with plain crosshairs and have the round impact more or less right on target instantly, even with a modest forward speed, would be a vast improvement from the inaccurate drift and wobble inherent with dropping a mortar round from a stationary drone. The biggest problem would be in-flight reloading, and the fact that a drone big enough for artillery or RR would be helicopter size at least. Probably better with a Mk19 and a couple dozen rounds on the belt, that would give the drone a smaller overall presence.

[@herptek]

​​@@tylerphuoc2653Since the topic of this video is already firmly on the zone of crazy ideas we might just as well entertain also this one. A self-loading recoilless rifle design or one equipped by a kind of autoloader could in theory be used from an unmanned aerial platform without the need to worry about the stresses to the platform caused by, well, recoil. These types of weapons just have much shorter range than artillery.

[@herptek]

@@tylerphuoc2653 That is exactly why ideas I find it difficult to take this whole helicopter artillery niche seriously. But I agree that it makes for an entertaining speculative topic from a technical-minded point of view. From a tactical point of view it is difficult to see what purpose would such a contraption fullfill. One can carry artillery on a helicopter into whatever landing area other troops go and use it from the ground as is. This would not require compromising the qualities of either the design of the helicopter nor the artillery weapon itself. Recoilless riffles are not considered artillery weapons. They are primarily anti-tank weapons but of course they can be used against infantry as well in a fashion in a way rather remiscient of old school anti-tank guns. These too are normally only used on ground. If you wanted to build some kind of drone gunship as suggested before you could indeed use something like a recoilless riffle instead of an artillery piece without putting excessive requirements on the platform. But then again, simple multiple rocket pods would seem to achieve the same result in a less complicated way.

[@herptek]

@@tylerphuoc2653 Recoilless rifles have absolutely huge backblast by design. That is the way they can have no recoil. The release of pressure is so huge that the entire area echoes as the result of it and the discharge also produces a big flash and much smoke. Believe me, they are in no way anything like discrete weapons. If you are thinking about a single use, throwaway drone then especially I would not arm it with any heavy, expensive or hard to replace weapon system, only self-contained munitions such as rockets or missiles. It would also be simpler a system and would have the additional advantage of having basically arbitrary rate of fire.

[@herptek]

@@tylerphuoc2653 Okay, there would have to be some defined tactical purpose for your design to fullfill first and then suitable weapons could be selected for the mission. If you are intending to use your drone for direct fire in an air support or attack role, or as a gunship, I don't think it would make the slightest difference wether or not your rocket contrails are visible or not. The enemy is hit not many moments after the shot is out and that is that for them. One can see aviation rockets in Ukraine being used by combat helicopters and attack craft alike also in another way whereby they are set on a high trajectory on cue so as to maximize range. That is very inaccurate a method and generally relies on a barrage of large number of rockets at once to hit a wider site. Used in this way the rockets have used up their fuel already once they begin their descent on their target, at that point flying unpowered in a ballistic trajectory. Either way, I don't think a recoilless rifle is the optimal weapon for a platform like what you are envisaging, especially not for the latter use. They are typically direct fire weapons.

[@Daniel-ll2cl]

Thanks for allowing Picture in Picture

[@Nathan-vt1jz]

With modern technology, I think we could make this happen. The artillery drone in particular seems like the most obvious answer.

[@dead-claudia]

fr imagine a heavy quadcopter drone packing a 155mm howotzer

[@dennisclapp7527]

Thanks Chris

[@tonymcflattie2450]

Crayons on helicockers - YES!

[@essex3777]

So this is where that one Red Alert unit came from...

[@LordOceanus]

Ah the 1970s, back when it was still normal to have your engineers coked up at the start of their shift.

[@TY-pf6vb]

Just a bump maybe another bump

[@L0neW0lfL0gan]

*sniffs* Alright lets put some big guns on something.

[@nextechsolutions5955]

🤣

[@VLPoirier]

Dude! I was there, I know these people!

[@AreUmygrandson]

That’s pretty freaking dope and I’m 100% with it

[@TheArklyte]

Considering that Mi-26 is basically C-130 in helicopter form, I don't find the idea of a helicopter carrying and firing two howitzers so far fetched. It's just that 1)Chinook is not that helicopter; 2)the project likely died due to obvious fact - we have rockets for this exact job.

[@odiegh]

this sounds like the craziest and coolest idea I've heard in a long time

[@huma474]

Ah, the army evolving from "Lets put machine guns on everything" to "Lets put cannons on everything"

[@SomeOrdinaryJanitor]

Finally, the AH-47

[@Khornecussion]

If another nation did this, the world would flip out. If America does this? " Honey... they're trying to strap cannons to their helicopters again... "

[@TobyCatVA]

Dang it! Now everybody will be trying to beat me to market with my Stealth Twin Paladin Artillery Drone.

[@johnholbrooks4394]

I fucking love Grunts n Crafts time!

[@zudukaiKilo44]

i love this concept, nothing can shoot and scoot like a flying mobile howitzer. combine a CH54 Tarhe with the boxer IFV's unmanned RCH155 and i think that's the winning combo. technically it can even have way more range than a ground based one if they fly high enough, but you'll probably need to start using guided projectiles at some point.

[@vampiro4236]

Cannons on helicopters?!?! KEEP SMOKING THAT SHIT!!!!!!!

[@johncena-gh8si]

This NEEDS to be in the next battlefield

[@urbancraft2372]

This is brilliant!!!

[@boiimaroastyou4423]

Warthunder is taking notes in order to add a new helicopter 😂

[@Cary_Glenn]

The mispronunciation of Chinook is disturbing.

[@bryangrote8781]

This thing should've been in "Command and Conquer". Perfect airborne compliment to the Mammoth tanks.

[@apeshitcrazyman]

DUDE! You of all people should know, it's not pronounced literal "CH" inook, it's Sh-inook. It's one of those weird words, that doesn't make sense, but it's not chin, ook. It's Shin, ook.

[@papasyscon6037]

Shit-hook.

[@michaellodge5456]

Chinook 😂

[@grognard23]

despite the name, @apeshitcrazyman is quite correct. Source: trust me bro... and, I am from Montana and Chinook is the county seat of Blaine County here in Montana.

[@selectionn]

GIF is pronounced as JIF, but you dont ever hear anyone saying it that way, even if its correct, because we arent freaks.

[@berticusmaximus8381]

And Vertol is pronounced "Vertall". I winced with both pronunciations.

[@kaleoariola]

105mm rounds are light compared to 155mm's. High round missions were fun overseas where we received many "when ready" instead or "at my command". I was the number 1 man (assistant gunner) in 05 on a m119A2 we did a 10 round mission rounds complete in 45 seconds. Miss that piece, those were some fun times. BALLS!

[@justaguy5770]

1:18 "Fill our own pockets?" "As always!"

[@victorpardoherrera643]

I need the Chubby Electron Guy to cover this like ASAP 😂😂😂

[@champnomnom7764]

That artillery edit is wild 😂 i would imagine the blast coming out the muzzle would be a big issue.

[@roostercogburn3272]

While I was deployed one of the JSOC taskforces came through our AO to do a mission. About ~30 guys landed with their suped-up Blackhawks and one heavily modified/armored Chinook from 160th SOAR at our little FOB (Farah), ate lunch, flew ~2-3 miles North to hit whatever their target was, dropped a JDAM near it, flew back to the FOB, hung out for a few minutes, then left, never to be seen again. Anyway, that was the one and only time I've ever seen a Chinook like that. Imagine an m1151 but instead of a truck, it was an 'up-armored helicopter' with miniguns. Like a flying tank. I'm big into aviation so I wanted to take a picture and I regret that I didn't but I also wasn't sure if it would be an issue. Looking back I don't think it would've been but it was also just such a random and bizare thing to happen at the time.

[@howitzer13b]

Guns a go-go! I’ve been wanting someone to do a deep dive on artillery helicopters for a while! I’m gonna Hooah so hard!

[@Ammo_0720]

Fun fact this project inspired the designing of the 160th BlackHawks which have duel wielding 30mm cannons