Amy Duggar DROPS A BOMB, BELIEVES Other DUGGARS STRUGGLE with SAME "EVIL ISSUES" as Josh Duggar

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Amy Duggar King Dropped a bomb about her family in an interview with Entertainment Tonight. In the interview, Amy said that she doesn't trust any of the men in the Duggar family and doesn't think the issues are isolated to Josh Duggar. As a result, she will NEVER allow her son to know her family
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[@freckles8119]

Amy is doing exactly what I’d do. Keep your child safe. Good job Amy.

[@tigerdenvintage6783]

Absolutely!! Look at how the Duggars treat their own children! I wouldn’t bring my children around them - ever.

[@LindaREIBER-nt8wi]

I have always liked amy..she's such a happy positive happy person. But she's a good mom.. She's a mama lion . I'm proud of her.

[@deemariedubois4916]

Amy is a very intelligent woman and a momma lioness when it comes to protecting her child.

[@aljonaoehrlein4628]

AMEN!!!!

[@MrPuglove13]

That’s not “home schooling” what they had was NO-schooling.

[@CheapsKate77]

It's called unschooling, actually.

[@justhereforthevideos2798]

@@CheapsKate77 with unschooling, Michelle would still do SOMETHING. anything. Unschooling means u dont follow a curriculum, but let the kids interests to find teaching opportunities. Parents still play a role in educating their kids when they choose unschooling. This isn’t unschooling. It’s lazy parenting.

[@ambermchugh9381]

It's worse than nothing actually. Lies about science etc and toxic purity culture

[@GrannyLinn]

What they had was indoctrination.

[@caitlinhaniffy4387]

It’s brainwashing, has nothing to do with actual schooling. In my humble opinion, the Duggers ran their own little reeducation camp at home.

[@11candy11]

Regardless of whether or not they "believe in counseling" is irrelevant. Perversions against children cannot be "counseled" away. The perpetrators have to be locked up and kept away from kids. Permanently.

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

Then the whole cult needs to be imprisoned

[@jeweler1jcc]

@@WithoutACrystalBallAll fundamentalists should be ashamed of themselves for how they treat women and children! These institutions should be held accountable for their actions and behavior?

[@gidgetgetscrafty]

I used to think Josh was an opportunistic offender, and probably preferred victims his own age with the woman he abused in DC. But now after what was found on his computer, he needs to be kept far away from children.

[@CandaceLee-bs2wk]

@gidgetscrafty I agree 💯!❤️

[@pinkythechihuahua3156]

​. From what I've read, kiddie p**n addicts do not outgrow it.

[@kimkrebs451]

Anna calling Amy toxic?! It should be the other way around

[@rainydayjane8257]

Its always backwards day at The Duggars!! 🤪🤪

[@hockeygirl8506]

Pot, meet kettle.

[@kimkrebs451]

@@hockeygirl8506 absolutely

[@crustyrash]

This is how family "dysfunction" (I hate that word but it fits) gets passed on generation after generation. It's not just the bad behavior but the burying and normalizing of family secrets like 'we don't talk about Josh's aberrant behavior.' It takes the Jill's of the world to break the cycle. Keeping a woman pregnant is just one more way of control.

[@kerryalfaro9437]

Generational traumas becoming generational CURSES...... BREAK GENERATIONAL CURSES!!!!

[@canadianalien370]

💯!

[@lowriderlandon4377]

Amy should just take her family and take them out of it all.

[@kimrodriguez921]

It's so sad how they can't see that this is wrong!!! I read Jingers book and seems like she understands how bad the IBLP is. I sure hope the other girls wake up.. where are Anna's parents ?

[@Mom-Mimi]

@@kimrodriguez921 good question… where are Anna’s parents????

[@ladyjane3070]

I get sick to my stomach every time I see Michelle looking up glowingly at Jim Bob! Like he is God! These people are so messed up!

[@gottabme]

Anna, too. Like it's literally life to them, when the men speak. Really kinda sickening!

[@crazymusicchick]

Yep 🤢

[@phantomvampyressshadowkiss4690]

I agree. Another whack job is the transformed wife. She needs taken off social media. She sticks up for the duggars and gothard . She literally made a video about how Jill and jinger are disobeying their parents. They are freaking grown women

[@debrapalmer9772]

Oh boo-hoo for Michelle. She's old enough to know right from wrong. Mothers protect their children.

[@carolaguilera6911]

She should have protected her daughter's

[@watchinvidzwatchinvidz7691]

Exactly she is abusive. They need therapy.

[@rainydayjane8257]

And boo-hoo Anna…she needs to protect her kids as well.

[@CandaceLee-bs2wk]

@watchinvidzwatchinvidz7691 They all need deprogramming!😡❤️

[@cynthiabrent6479]

I don't feel too sorry for her either. She was taught better.

[@eq7746]

As someone who was homeschooled then went to successfully get my bachelor’s degree - I’m so frustrated how the Duggars used such a crappy curriculum and promoted it for years- there are tons of AMAZING homeschool curriculums that can really set a kid up for a phenomenal education- just a shame they weren’t educated properly and then promoted such a poor curriculum

[@hockeygirl8506]

So sad how these kids were raised. Kudos to Amy & Jill for speaking out. They make a difference.

[@michelleallred8521]

When that came out about Josh, all the minor children should have been removed

[@wendybennett6283]

Amen

[@cindiloushepherd1548]

I agree

[@cathykrueger4899]

CPS would have a cow over trying to find placements for that many kids at once. Removing Josh is a better answer. Then the Duggars should have been put on open supervision and their use of the “rod” and blanket training forbidden. Jim Bob and Michelle should have been required to take parenting classes and to learn about early childhood development. The children should have been put in public school in light of the fact that they have been denied an education. These people need a live-in supervisor.

[@michelleallred8521]

@@cathykrueger4899 right. If they covered for Josh & didn't protect their daughters, so who knows what else they'd let happen

[@marysue7165]

This same thought has occured to me too. It's sad for the kids who are innocent because they have all been stained by Josh's behavior.

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

Unfortunately men that remain in this system aren’t innocent. They become perps

[@kariannsutherland4850]

She’s smart and I’m glad she’s protecting her child.

[@DanaLovesMaui]

Good choice by Amy, better safe than sorry.

[@kaybizzle]

Where there’s smoke, there’s fire, and where there’s one abuser in a family, there’s usually more.

[@dnett6917]

Makes me think where these boys learned to be so handsy maybe JimBob

[@starrylight8819]

​@@dnett6917 I think so

[@karlaanderson566]

Absolutely!

[@LeyasLife]

This comment👆🏼👆🏼👆🏼

[@lizhoward9754]

Bingo!!

[@lindashively2530]

Do we think that Josh has abused his own daughters? I know Anna refused to allow CPS talk to her children… but…. My fear is that he did 😢😫

[@cindiloushepherd1548]

Anna should have lost custody of her children

[@carolbullard7956]

I strongly believe he did.

[@kaylandry3142]

YES! YES! YES!

[@karensiegel6669]

I know Anna said the oldest girl was a "Daddy's Girl." So hoping not.

[@lorimiller4301]

Of course he did ! Please wake up. There's no way he left them alone, he wouldn't have been able to stop himself. They have all those kids for that very reason. Keeps the mom incapacitated with pregnancies and she's too overwhelmed to see what's going on. These monsters have lots of kids to victimize, just incase one or two become aware and protest. Then he can have the other kids reassure the abused ones that everything is okay when it's not. It's a very sick and twisted game.

[@bonitafriesenmitchell1848]

She is great!!! I m proud of how she is protecting her child!!!!

[@kimkrebs451]

Kuddos to Amy for speaking out so publically

[@wendybennett6283]

Will CPS step in and interview other kids? Forget the parents- who is looking out for the younger ones? I guarantee you others were abused. Is someone checking in on the other kids?!?!

[@CandaceLee-bs2wk]

@wendybennett6283 I heard Anna refused to let cps interview her children!😡❤️

[@pinkythechihuahua3156]

​. With all the BS going on in many of the red states, ie: removing books from school libraries, trying to pass laws where the parent of a gay or trans child could be taken and the parents imprisoned, and the takedown of Roe v Wade, you would think the powers that be would have forced Anna with a court order to interview the children. I can assure you with Josh's background, he's touched his daughter's. My step sister was floored when we connected after many decades, that I was m* lested as was she. She said she didn't think our perp would have done that to his biological daughter. Ha! His children would be easy pray.

[@justhereforthevideos2798]

@@pinkythechihuahua3156 nothing about what’s happening in the US is actually about children and protecting them. It’s about control. The US govt has proven it doesn’t give two 💩💩 about children (at least once they pop out). It’s disgusting

[@lindahaley1401]

This is exactly what I said. How does Anna get to decline CPSs requests to interview her children after Josh’s conviction? Here in Indiana if CPS comes a knocking you don’t have a choice. They are there for a reason and must investigate. How is Anna able to keep that from happening is what I want to know. Something is seriously off here 🤔

[@justagirlnamedshawn]

Anna knows Josh was molesting their kids, so that is why she said no. I'd bet that Josh probably told Anna this was God wanting this for him.🤬🤬🤬 he had his own children at his service, anytime.

[@patsyjayson8503]

Anna will never leave. Josh is in prison so she knows where he is plus she knows he's not cheating on her at least with a woman. Her kids are being taking care of, she has a nice place to lay her head down, she has all the babysitters she could want and she probably doesn't have to do much around the house and again Josh is locked up.

[@dnett6917]

And she does not have to worry about being made to have any more babyies... She has it good in her mind.

[@boomersnflyers5520]

Good for Amy! If other family members deny or defend the predator, they won't look out for and protect my children.

[@jschamonix]

Thank you for mentioning that not all homeschoolers belong to a cult. There are many families that homeschool and do so in a secular manner. We homeschool because the school our children are assigned to cannot provide standard education. So many people assume we must be religious fanatics.... So frustrating.

[@grammylisa1]

I wouldn’t want any of my grandchildren around any of them. Period!

[@michelledonnan404]

Amy is spot on. Like she said ,She has a child who she has to keep safe.🙏🙏😺😺

[@hockeygirl8506]

So glad Amy is protecting her son! He will know some of his cousins, Jill's boys. She is right for protecting her son.

[@TN-rf7nt]

I hate how the Duggars' educational neglect have cast aspersions on all other homeschooling families. Many families with disabled children have no choice but to homeschool because our kids are never going to be properly accommodated in the public school system, no matter how much we advocate or even sue. The will to educate disabled children is lacking in America (see how quickly disabled kids' education was thrown out the window during the pandemic) and so we do what we must to ensure our kids are properly educated. But not only do we have to put up with an ableist society, we have to put up with people like the Duggars making us look bad.

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

My son receives amazing special education accommodations and is learning way better at school than when he had to be home during the pandemic. We should be critical of all facets of home school regardless of what program. Education is a fundamental right of children and should not be left to parents without any oversight -

[@traceonthecase]

It was a constant struggle to keep the schools on task in meeting my child's needs. But there are so many services they provide at school in addition to academics. For my child who is on the spectrum the social skills and cues that don't come naturally are so important for her to lear

[@tamarar.4642]

I homeschool my daughter for the reason you mentioned. I felt like I was fighting for her basic right for an education. I didn’t have the time or money to fight the system so I created a curriculum for her along with her behavioral therapist, doctor, and speech therapist help. She was in public and private school neither were a good fit. Our first year, I worked my but off so I could learn how to teach her. She has ADHD. She’s in gymnastics, swim team with a public school, and we take field trips. The school was suggesting I put her on medication. I told them NO! She was 4 at the time! Her problem was fidgeting and getting distracted during class. She is a completely different child now because I change her diet, home routine, and use natural meds for her. She’s tested well above grade level every year. In the beginning people would question us a lot when we were out during school hours lol 😂. They always asked if we were homeschooling for religious reasons. My answer was always no. She is a happy well rounded child now.

[@EjaBe23]

Excellent! Sadly, seemingly “can’t” kids are pushed aside, never evaluated into what they “can” do. Good education can help so-called “imperfect” kids, thoughtlessly abandoned by the public school system, to develop into productive citizens.

[@amylink7199]

@@WithoutACrystalBallI thought that we had great accommodations for my stepson, but high school dropped the ball. I got my stepson when he was 9, so his education was pretty set but, I think that I could have done better if I had been able to homeschool him from the get-go. I have only very recently come to this realization. I was really hands on, or at least I thought that I was. But, he ended up falling through the cracks in high school. I tried to teach him to advocate for himself along the way. But, I kind of wish that I had been on top of things a little bit longer.

[@cathygilliland1146]

I have been thinking the same thing about this family - the other boys. You have to wonder if this is the real reason Jana has never dated/courted/married - could the trauma she experienced damaged her to the point that she wants no part of a relationship with a man ? We will never know the full true story - unfortunately. I would not trust my children(or anyones children) around these people either.

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

I think Jim Bob keeps her around so secrets don’t get out

[@JordynRGraham]

Who do you think it is? Jim or one of the brothers?

[@TruckDriver2005]

I really think Jana likes women and not men.

[@yanniewilliams]

I told my husband Josh was not the only troubled male in the family..I fear this deep in my soul. If the teachings run rampant that women are just there for men's use. Well.. need I say more??😢😢

[@lindahaley1401]

Before Josh's crimes came out I have always had a creepy feeling about Jim Bob. I would not be at all surprised to find out more of the boys including Jim Bob have issues like Josh. Jim Bob has always given me great pause. This is just so terrible and why isn't CPS or anyone watching them or investigating this family? I worry for children still at home!!!

[@SeeingHimNow]

These people are sick! Easy to spot the ones who are struggling-the ones that are supporting Josh

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

All of the sons

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

@@lillianp-yj6yxJohn David isn’t a good person

[@liseklerekoper2441]

What does being a “good person“ actually mean?

[@therealdeal3672]

​@@liseklerekoper2441being a good person definitely entails being the sort of person who follows the Golden Rule. Do unto others as you would have done unto you. That's a pretty good start.

[@liseklerekoper2441]

@@therealdeal3672 - Agreed, & to note, I threw that out as a hypothetical question given the way people answer will likely vary.

[@breeboldt8964]

I always felt that there was an ulterior motive to having Amy on the show all those years. The way her uncle talked about her never seemed right. I'm glad Amy speaks out and never gave into their ways.

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

Producers wanted her on there so she could be used to look like the rebel

[@MarybethIUHoosiers]

@@WithoutACrystalBallhow about “normal?”

[@debbiejohnson8640]

Amy should open up and do a true tell all about the Duggers

[@kathyp760]

I think she will

[@bizsr7665]

My experience with IBLP families was that the daughters, in particular, often never went beyond algebra I. It wasn't uncommon for the boys to get more math education, because they were expected to get a job to support a family. So a boy might have the education to get his GED, but girls in the same family often did not. There were also plenty of families that felt that the requirements for math in high school were silly and even their boys would be better off getting "apprenticeships" and learning whatever skills they needed on the job. Jim Bob and Michelle are not particularly educated, but I witnessed parents with lots of education, and good jobs to show for it, make these same decisions. My dad used to mention that it didn't make sense to him why these families were not giving their kids a chance at the same education and standard of living that their bachelors and master's degrees afforded them. But my dad grew up in poverty and the idea of setting his kids up to go backwards was insane to him.

[@starrylight8819]

I fully think jb is as guilty as his son...and more

[@sherrynusbaum5913]

I agree. He is guilty of everything that happened in their family, and so is Michelle .

[@shebaspurling605]

I have always felt Jim Bob is guilty of some sort of SA with the kids.

[@Moerocha62]

Amy has such courage to speak the truth in this family. She’s a great mom - you MUST protect your own children, even if you lose family contact. A mom can lift a car off their child. I would give up anything to keep my child safe from predators. I hope Anna comes out of her denial and protects her children also.

[@debbietrego1540]

Sadly, I don't hold out any hope that Anna will come out of her denial and protect her children. She didn't protect them from Josh and she blamed herself for not being a "better wife." She is too sick and won't seek help for herself or her children, sadly.

[@Rodmic-hd9pn]

The blanket method is the craziest things I have ever heard

[@susanm7354]

It’s cruel imo

[@lisahull6059]

I remember my Pastor’s wife sitting me down and explaining the whole blanket method to me. I didn’t even go to an IBLP church but they liked Bill Gothard. His books influenced way more than People than just IBLP churches. I was in an independent nondenominational church which had so many of those same rules. We definitely had some child predators that were exposed later after I left. To this day I am still trying to get rid of things taught to me and I have never joined another church. There are times I wanted to but it makes me nervous. I kind of lost faith in so called leadership. I have said so many times that I believe in God and what Jesus did for us. I just have a problem with his kids…. I got in trouble for wearing pants in church and the leadership pulled my husband at the time aside to have a talk about getting his wife under control. Now I’m learning and embracing Gods grace. I hate that I am so distrusting about churches. I know that was not Gods design . I know it’s wrong to lump them all together but I do and that’s my protective wall up. Then I feel bad for being judgmental and that I’m not being a good Christian. It’s a mind game in full circle. I am still trying to rid of things in my mind of legalism and embrace Gods grace. I’m wondering how many other non IBLP churches read and embraced Bill Gothers teachings. …..

[@kristinahuckabee9737]

Anna, who was raised under the IBLP also, once said that her parents made appointments for the kids to get one-on-one time with them. And I believe Anna said it was 30 minutes a week. Its no wonder the boys are out of control. With so many more kids, there's no way the Duggar kids are being effectively parented.

[@JM-pg5rc]

I am so heartbroken to know my nieces were brought up in this group and homeschooled. All were sexually assaulted and the parents told them not to go to the authorities. One told me they had to write a letter to the boy and forgive him! Sadly, the girls are still in it and raising daughters in the religion.

[@ajordan1976]

Oh I just can't even begin to express my thoughts about your poor nieces. I certainly hope they've gotten out, healed and have all the happiness they deserve.

[@thrivingexjw2061]

A good, responsible parent, would NEVER take a chance with their child not being safe. The Duggars have proven that they don’t protect their kids.. so that would be a NO for me!! Amy is doing the right thing.. if she does ever let her kids around them, I’m sure she will be there supervising!!

[@sharihazlett3774]

You absolutely have to protect your kids. IBLP protects abusers. If there is another one in family, you would never know. Jim bob would cover for the abuser

[@samuelcareen5563]

"Dangerous like Jill" should be on a tshirt 😂

[@gottabme]

Love it! I was a scapegoat, too. I would totally wear that!

[@susanm7354]

Me too! Love it.

[@GrannyLinn]

I’d wear that!

[@christahewitt2758]

I would wear it

[@orcfig47]

Why is CPS not on site at the compound?!

[@susanm7354]

Jim Bob is a millionaire. Hence, lawyers!!!!!

[@ruthferguson7175]

It is even said that Grandma Mary never would allow Grandpa Duggars to be alone with the girls. The cycle continues w Josh and no telling who else.

[@susanm7354]

Ugh! Terrible

[@mariavita7536]

I’ve always loved Amy. I remember the conversations she had with Josh when she was on the show. Josh made her feel bad because she had already kissed boys but he said that he wasn’t going to kiss until he got married because that was something you do for the Lord. He was always so condescending to her.

[@loririnaldi3408]

Wait....didnt his parents kiss before they were married? I seem to remember Michelle admitting that. Hypocrites

[@carolbullard7956]

@@loririnaldi3408 yep.

[@pinkiesue849]

Goldenboy may not have kissed before marriage, but didn't we hear he pulled a lot of other stunts?

[@juliajones2283]

Katie, thank you for your work bringing this awful family/ subject to more to try to make people more aware. I’m glad Amy and Jill are speaking out.xx

[@JohnnyTong215]

Amy tells the truth so well!!! It’s so sad that the family is imploding!!! The IBLP is at fault for it!!! They breed monsters like Josh and they should be stopped!!!

[@cgomez113]

It’s Jim Bob and Michelle that are at fault. don’t shift the blame

[@JohnnyTong215]

@@cgomez113 They’re at fault all right!!!! JB is the one that should’ve been punished a long time ago!!!

[@CandaceLee-bs2wk]

@cgomez113 There’s more than enough blame to go around!❤️

[@Christi80sLover]

@@cgomez113 The IBLP teachings (the CULT) JB and Michelle are ALL TO BLAME!

[@RAZ3275]

I wish that Amy and Jill had contact with the younger girls. Teens need good roll models.

[@jcgrant1234]

If you teach your sons that your daughters are not equals but rather possessions...then that is the way your sons will treat them. They are all victims of the cult but some of the victims have also been taught to feel the right to victimize others. And when the victims become victimizers they are are ni longer innocents.

[@chrisprose]

They’re forced to love their siblings but are allowed to hate LGBTQ. LOVE the selective application of the Bible. 🙄

[@missrayishat]

I was just about to say this!!

[@shebaspurling605]

Love the person not the sin.

[@CynnamonSpyder]

@@shebaspurling605 What sin?

[@CheapsKate77]

​@@CynnamonSpyderhomosexuality.

[@stacyragland3123]

​@@CheapsKate77Not everyone believes that's a sin.

[@katwitanruna]

Break the silence. Break the cycle.

[@c.hansen3139]

Gosh its all so sad. We home school but heck, my 15yr old just finished algebra 2 and physics! All of our kids will do four years of high school math and science in addition to history, literature, etc. But TN does require 3yrs of math, 3yrs of science, etc. So we are going above and beyond because its better for the kids.

[@lisadebeau3287]

Proud that Amy is keeping her child safe from her family. But its sad that that society has corrupted her family dynamic

[@MotherOfCats75]

None of this was society's doing.

[@Shortstuff841]

Good for Amy👍👍

[@grammylisa1]

I think Jessa is very manipulative.

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

Jessa is a narcissist

[@kathyp760]

Or rather some passive aggressive and mean traits controlled more now just underneath the surface after all she's a pastors wife now 😉

[@lucylu6462]

Jessa is iblp through and through and I think it's made her snarky and bitter as it would!

[@merricat3025]

I've said this so many times I think jessa is a female jim bob

[@JenniferAguiartampa]

Jesse seems like someone you wouldn’t want to cross.

[@iamjamie3528]

I thought Lauren getting pregnant again so soon after her miscarriage, especially with how bad she was handling it, was pretty suspicious

[@kimsandel8099]

Proud of Amy and Jill Support you Katie ❤️ for speaking out

[@kellyhodgson6385]

Do they believe Josh has brought shame to the family and IBLP?

[@carolbullard7956]

No, because he's innocent LoL 🙄

[@WooWoo-co4jf]

4.31, if any of us went to work and there was a 'rod of encouragement' on the wall we would complain to police, trade unions etc. If an adult used that on another adult the police would be involved. So why is it ok for much larger adults to use it on much smaller children? It makes me so angry

[@WooWoo-co4jf]

I don't think jb is much different to his own dad. He might not use alcohol but he's controlling, violent, verbally & emotionally abusive. I'd consider his se* pest self with m, expecting adult time any time he wants, how she feels is irrelevant

[@cjodieransom1187]

Amen, Amy. AMEN. Guard your child.

[@pam6116]

There is something in that family that's been a generational issue and it's finally coming to light. All those innocent children, what a shame.

[@michelleallred8521]

Ok, I can see a couple swats on the butt if needed, but do not EVER use any object! That's abuse. My daughter in law i can bet will never use spanking on my granddaughter. She's 2, & her mommy is absolutely 💯 amazing. Even this young, when Evelynn gets upset her mommy will calmly talk to her & get her to tell her why she's crying. And if she does something wrong, she tells her let's not do that. Her mommy also is not allowing Evelynn to be pressured to hug/kiss family, even her parents. If they say can I have a kiss & she says no thank you, & they respect that

[@racheld7528]

I wondered why there wasn’t any interview with Anna’s kids or cps being involved at all to check on them? It’s just like what you said, they are in the same house under the same roof and rules where Josh got away with what he did and the people who helped to cover it up. Her kids are not safe there. She will need to figure something out for the future if she stays because he won’t be able to live in the same house as their kids. It’s a mess and it’s sad that the kids are going to suffer the fall out from it.

[@merricat3025]

Maybe they don't care in Arkansas? It confuses me too

[@sharonbrown6595]

My family also didn’t believe in mental health and mental problems. I had to protect my oldest girl who has bipolar. Get counselling and meds for it . I am proud of her. She really tries to be ok, and that’s all we as a family want from her. I kept it from my mom as she would have ran her down and if I could help it I wasn’t going to allow that. Mom would have said pray about it. Yeah right. They r very uneducated and it’s sad. All the dugger kids think they r good for is to work for dad or have babies. So so sad. What is going to happen when dad dies ??

[@TracieToliver]

When Dad dies there is freedom!!

[@Christi80sLover]

@@TracieToliver And a whole lot of indoctrination to weed through…..by that time they will have already indoctrinated their children and so on! See a pattern here?

[@lorimiller4301]

Unfortunately even after death these monsters have a way to influence their victims. They are in their minds from being programmed to obey all those years. The parental model is absorbed and reinacted every day. The child no longer needs to be told what to do because the voice of their ego is now the voice of the parent. It gets passed down from one generation to the next.

[@kariannsutherland4850]

I got my GED and I know nothing about geometry I flunked pre algebra. You don’t need high scores to pass on everything

[@cathymiller4479]

Kudos to you for getting your GED!

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

Josh is the only one that has his GED. The girls aren’t educated beyond 8th grade

[@carissamitchell2785]

@@WithoutACrystalBall so so sad

[@pinkiesue849]

what state are you in?

[@kariannsutherland4850]

I took my GED in California 30 years ago. I was 25. I never made it passed 9th grade. Bullies and severe ADHD among other things.

[@kimkrebs451]

Katie, thank you for level headed reporting 😊

[@meglowe7047]

You are spot on regarding the IBLP and the polygamous community. I married a LeBaron, and we were in the Southern Baptist community.

[@trenarichardson690]

Michelle would’ve had to go to the hospital for her births Her body must just be mangled from having so many children.

[@teamcougars]

I hope Amy keeps her child away from JBob.

[@jennifermessina7312]

I've said this before, Anna has the same homeschooling background - and although there is no excuse for not protecting your kids, the notion that she can just go, get a job and support her Kids on her own - for me is ridiculous. And there may be organizations that can help, for her, she'd trade one known dependency for another unknown one. The hate she gets for not leaving surely won't make her trust the outside more.....

[@victorias450]

Normally I’d be sympathetic but she has had multiple offers of help, including from Amy and her own rich siblings, but refuses. She is making choices. She is not completely stuck.

[@MotherOfCats75]

I can't be sympathetic when she refuses to protect her children. She even refused to allow her children to be checked to make sure they hadn't been messed with.

[@jennifermessina7312]

@@MotherOfCats75 I did say there is no excuse for not protecting her Kids. And O don't get why these children weren't looked at, with or without her consent with their Father being guilty of THAT. Unbelievable.

[@PthaloGreen2]

I agree that people underestimate the difficulty of Anna getting out. It's a HUGE deal to take all those kids, and leave your family and indoctrination! People on the outside just don't understand. Yes, there are people on the outside who would help her, but most everything else she's ever known has been in this cult. I'm sure she feels that she is protecting her children by staying under its "umbrella." I don't have any kids. I can't even imagine how hard it would be to run off and take care of SEVEN on my own. That's HUGE! Please give these people time. They may yet come around. You cannot push the river.

[@phantomvampyressshadowkiss4690]

I as an outside person who doesn't know anything of living this kinda way I see it as she's been brainwashed since birth . They are so controlled that she's probably unable to understand what really is. She needs deprogramming and in depth counseling even possibly deep deprogramming which may be harder for her

[@katwitanruna]

Ugh! Those disgusting political shirts they made the kids wear. Ick! I explained political issues to my kids but I taught them to use critical thinking and make up their own minds.

[@susanm7354]

I agree!!!!

[@jaymaeberhard1590]

Thanks Katie!

[@louie40205]

Interesting to hear they shun doctors, especially since there was a lot of secular medicine that kept Josie Duggar alive after she was born so prematurely.

[@Mom-Mimi]

Why why why can’t CPS get involved?????

[@TaraLovesMusic1]

It makes me mad that they're not.

[@dianefoster4472]

This is the reason why I’m shocked that especially Jill and perhaps Jinger think they can home school their kids.

[@brewerrkjb]

Jill's kids go to public school. I don't know what plans Jinger has for her girls but can you really imagine her homeschooling them? I can't.

[@trish2256]

I was shocked a Dugger son went to UK and asked his friend what State London was in. The friend said UK does not have states. He should have known that.

[@lisagraham3571]

What happens to Anna if Jim bob dies or what happens to Michelle if Jim bob dies

[@sandyschneider6792]

Prayers are an effective weapon…

[@tg5275]

I'd like more info on what you've heard about Josh's brothers' behaviors.

[@tolutani-olu9680]

Pride before fall

[@MrPuglove13]

Yup! It was a “fact finding “ or “source finding” mission.

[@cperkin6880]

I always thought it was strange, JB is so protective of Josh. Did the apple fall far from the tree?

[@bseelman67]

What I find is creepy is how the women are "forced" to look adoringly at the spouses when they are talking.

[@HT-sh1yj]

Very, very harsh words about the Duggars - but very well deserved. This is one of your strongest videos, Katie. This insidious culture will continue hurting children unless people like you and Amy speak up to expose its underbelly. Well done.

[@christinechamberlain8162]

My parents used exodus 20:12 as a death threat whenever I didn't do exactly as they wanted. (Even if they didn't verbally say what they wanted)

[@WithoutACrystalBall]

I am so sorry!

[@christinechamberlain8162]

I wasn't part of the iblp, but I believe my parents were influenced by John MCARTHUR

[@Disneyloverr566]

I’ve always had a feeling some of the other Duggar boys were like Josh 🤢

[@ashleywilliams2239]

The homeschool curriculum they use is useless as an education system. I homeschool we use a good program and the kids are veryyyy smart. The duggars are trying to keep their kids so sheltered they don’t stray from the iblp. Uneducated people tend to stay with what they know because it’s hard to learn new things and leave what you know when you already struggle with the basics in life. Then if they aren’t educated they are stuck because branching out is harder. It’s kinda like the Amish and why most of the kids stay Amish rather then leave. They are so sheltered they’d rather stay then leave and face harder things

[@PthaloGreen2]

Do you worry that your kids will not be exposed to those of other backgrounds? That's a big concern I have with home schooling.

[@HelloNewMoon]

Ugh, this one made my stomach flip when you pointed out that some of these kids were not “pure” at marriage. Putting together some of the IBLP thoughts on tampons and silly things like that I wonder if poor Joy was not seen s a virgin b/c of what Josh did. The way they victim blame I would not be surprised. She was basically a toddler when it happened but they are stick enough to feel like she was technically not a true virgin.

[@michellesunshinestar]

I got some outside counselling after my diagnosis. But had heard what LDS counselling does, they just make you read the "Book of Mormon" and pray about it. I'm like that's not going to work for me.

[@merricat3025]

You are right. Reading fiction not going to help

[@karissawoz9555]

What was Grandma doing when her grandchildren were being abused, punished, have strangers in their rooms, etc. Like I have zero respect for her.

[@janicemichaloski5292]

It wouldn't suprise me to find out JB had done things or the other brothers have done things

[@Chgogal1]

Me either. Jim Bob is creepy and so is Jed.

[@darcymoon2109]

Poor Joy saying “3 ex 7” for 3 x 7. Girl doesn’t even know multiplication

[@tjd0908]

I always thought that you had to follow a state approved education curriculum if you were to homeschool. Is that not the case? Seems like this would be something the state would certainly need to investigate. This is a form of neglect.

[@JenniferAguiartampa]

State rules vary from state to state.

[@user-yf6ds8ez6c]

When it was publicized that Josh SA his sisters, during the interview with Meghan Kelly, Jim Bob stated. One thing that I learned from this experience is how common this kind of thing is. It is very, very common. I remember thinking, I don't know where you roll Jim Bob, but in my social/family circle, no one is SA children.

[@karencollins2661]

Where is Arkansas CPS. Anna's children should be taken away.

[@racheld7528]

I’m 100% agree about Michelle looking uncomfortable! I remember when I use to watch how uncomfortable I felt watching those moments because she looked like she didn’t want to kiss him! It just felt like there was something wrong, not like it was something she wanted to do. 12:00

[@The_One_and_Only996]

Jeremy commented positively on one of Jill’s posts

[@susanm7354]

That’s good.

[@Mom-Mimi]

I’ve been saying that all along, it can’t be just Josh…

[@sharonbrown6595]

I wouldn’t trust my dog around them. They have no control along with jb and Michelle. They make me sick to my stomach. I do love Jill and Amy they r so honest and honesty is not high high on their priority list

[@amybithell6923]

So scary!

[@ilianexisburgos-diaz5490]

I remember in one of the episodes they was saying that Jim Bob had a stomach problem that made him have bad breath. So yeah I believe all the kisses was forced.

[@qtippchik8688]

I finally made my two years as a member 🎉🎉🎉