An Actual Review of Overwatch & Paladins

Maybe I'm just a size queen.
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#overwatch #paladins #review #comparison #gigantic #heroshooter

[@shammytv]

EDIT: I don't usually like to explain the jokes in my videos, but the "they're better at clicking on the bad men" is not a serious comment. I wrote it as a joke but in retrospect it doesn't really read as one, if I wanted to make that statement more accurately I'd say that the biggest difference between me and "the real gamers" is the fact that they're in comms, they're running one of the actual designated "meta" comps, and they're better at clicking on the bad men. Every single ranked match I played where my teammates joined team voice and communicated was a complete steamroll, every time they didn't we got steamrolled. Am I better than the other players in plat? I have no fucking idea, I just know that I didn't want to keep doing that 15 minute coin flip over and over just to get to the point where I had the right color under my hero portrait for my opinions to magically become valid. I'm not trying to convince you that Overwatch is bad, if you like it that's great, I'm just trying to explain why I don't. Not entirely sure why, but I can’t shake the feeling that I’ve been here before… Yeah, this video tool a really long time to make, even by my standards. I know that. Don’t worry, I have explicitly mapped out the next few videos to be about things that I don’t feel the need to be SUPER in depth about, and I’m also never ever EVER making a “full review” of this many games ever again because structuring this was an absolute nightmare. I’ve also been having a huge upswing in my mental health over the past few months, which is hopefully going to help future videos come out faster. I think working creatively sort of requires you to strike a balance between making stuff as high quality as you possibly can while also putting things out in a somewhat timely manner, and this video definitely doesn’t do that for me. My goal for 2019 is to post at least 7 videos, which I know a lot of people would laugh at but I don’t want to go back to churning out stuff I’m not happy with every month and I feel like 7 gives me enough time to make them meet my personal standards of quality. I like being able to take my time on stuff, but there’s a limit to that. I’m finding my sweet spot, and I’ll get there eventually. It also didn’t help that I gave myself a few “challenges” to help me improve as a writer for this video, now that I think about it. Anyways, I’m fucking exhausted. I’ll probably talk more about this on other social media after I’ve gotten some sleep in me. If you want to follow/support me through means other than watching the video I exist at: twitter.com/ShammyTV patreon.com/Shammy I post updates about videos on both of those, so if you ever find yourself wondering if I’ve been whacked by the mafia for all of those outstanding favors just check there to find out. Thank you all so much for watching, I honestly don’t think I’ll ever really get used to the sort of support I get on these videos. I hope you liked it. Sorry if this was super hard to read, I’m writing it without having slept for about 26 hours I think.

[@tobin2190]

I missed you Shammy

[@savior4051]

Shammy can you please give me attention, I don’t get any from my parents

[@jarfankle_8587]

Ur writing and comedy rarely fails to make me smile and laugh. Love your vids man

[@americana_incarnate1717]

HE LIVES!

[@darksepheroth4627]

We need another No Man's Sky vid please.

[@christofferhjorth3698]

But when the world needed him the most, he vanished

[@kexaroni]

He’s supposed to upload a vid this month!! :))

[@wavy_kate]

KK then he only has a couple hours left...

[@biglanceyfouxenjoyer1347]

KK rip

[@kexaroni]

yeet lmao follow his twitter. He posts updates there and apparently the video still needs editing.

[@biglanceyfouxenjoyer1347]

KK well fuck what’s the video about

[@nunosantos6812]

"Paladins is a competitive game trying to be casual, and Overwatch is a casual game trying to be competitive." That quote never made more sense.

[@sander8581]

Yeah its so true

[@xxdennismcxxsestic1435]

And a copy but still good

[@oofnebro8682]

Please don’t overuse that quote too much, or else it’ll end up being unusable like “As vast as an ocean but as deep as a puddle.”

[@sander8581]

@@oofnebro8682 never heard that before cause im not native English

[@alexandersh86]

@@xxdennismcxxsestic1435 You must think very highly of Hi-Rez spies. Being able to obtain data from Blizzard to make a copy of their game. In case of /r/woosh, check out the dates of closed/open betas.

[@trashpanda5827]

“The most fun I had with overwatch was a team of 6 supports” *overwatch adds 2 2 2 role queue making the casual quick play basically unranked comp*

[@Piterixos]

That's actually a good thing. It makes quick play playable.

[@BiqRedOne]

Piterixos bruh

[@bearistotle2820]

Blizzard: You can’t have fun unless we sanction it.

[@trashpanda5827]

Piterixos It makes quick play quick for two of the three roles, tank and support get into games almost instantly and dps has to wait from 10 to even 30 minutes.

[@aquaxv7122]

Piterixos what? There’s a reason r6 has ranked unranked and casual if I wanna play 2-2-2 I’m gonna go to ranked and unranked I shouldn’t have to feel shafted when playing casual/quick play

[@HeyYouYouAreFinallyAwake]

I was genuinely looking forward to downloading Gigantic after hearing Shammy explain how good it is. You can't imagine the disappointment and sadness I felt when he said that it was literally shutdown.

[@SPARTANTROOPER]

Can't have original games out there, it proves that most development studios are creatively bankrupt.

[@thehowlongwolf5254]

I miss it

[@mielkavra]

same

[@needless2048]

Look up Project Stamina, they're working to revive Gigantic.

[@ribz4539]

I remember the game, I never truly got to play it beyond a few games and it's heartbreaking.

[@rivets3259]

Dude, it’s been a year, where’d ya go? I miss having an angry owl threaten to rip out my thorax

[@enzo1107]

Yeah, right? Like, that's my kink

[@thecommunistowl811]

I can if you want

[@dipzoid8596]

Making a video but idk its been a while

[@bh19992]

He's still alive, thankfully. Post on Twitter often.

[@JustSkram]

The please stop talking podcast

[@dutchduk3342]

Man, this went from funny to in depth to genuinely kind of sad I’m gonna go lay down

[@WiskiBlueHeeler]

I feel you man. As soon as he started talking about Gigantic I was like, "o fuk," Because I knew where he was going.

[@Akirathedon92]

Dutch Duk What are you going to lay down? Gotta finish your sentences if you want desert.

[@RacinZilla003]

@@Akirathedon92 To desert? To go to a desert? Have dessert? Just desert for Gigantic? What's going on here?? I'm going to lay down myself D:

[@ewoenam9919]

@AlakazamThe2ndSpoon im sad i didnt get to play it as i didnt have the system to run it at the time, when i finally got around to trying it out thats when i found out what happened. Its so tragic

[@Akirathedon92]

@@RacinZilla003 And what are you going to LAY down? Do you mean lie down?

[@Crow_Guy]

>Pyrocynical recommends him to his viewers >instantly disappears

[@Spidersox1989]

@Loser_boi_ 6999 so guys

[@wasilwatch]

are pyrocynical and shammy the same person?

[@skyxee]

@Loser_boi_ 6999 We reached a quarter of a million subscribers.

[@Dylan-qs3ev]

@@wasilwatch what is

[@dadleft8427]

Good Pyro is cheeks

[@chazlancaster5213]

We're so back

[@CocoaBeans660]

I like how you used an owl as your character to move you eyes, even though owls are the only animal that can't move their eyes.

[@EmptyNullified]

You are the only animal who could comment this.

[@smittywerbenjagermanjensen7868]

Wait... *THEY CANT* ?

[@blueray2174]

Well not the ONLY but one of a few

[@blueray2174]

@@smittywerbenjagermanjensen7868 it's why they have flexible necks, since their eyes are too large to move inside their sockets they compensate by moving the entire head toward what they wish to see, but it's not the only reason they do the head rotation thing it's also because they have asymmetrical ears so swiveling their head around let's them pick up sound from above and below

[@nof9395]

No, it not that their eyes are too large, that’s tarsiers, owls can’t move their eyes because they are shaped like tubes for better night vision.

[@crashcoptr]

I just want to give you wholehearted praise at your structure and your arguments. I am genuinely impressed at how your precise criticisms of each game fuse together into criticisms of each game entirely. You also organically place jokes that neither feel out of place nor feel unnecessary to furthering your arguments. The surprise of this video transitioned really smoothly (a characteristic of your writing at this point) and was really well-founded by your precise criticisms of each game and by your overall structure. I can't stress this enough but... thank you for making such good content. Ah shit I need to do a meme to make sure this annoys you... haha owls amirite?

[@shammytv]

you pulled me in just to put me down that's fucked dude

[@crashcoptr]

@@shammytv that's the epitome of me

[@serseallord7619]

Hear Hear Good Sir

[@vegmasit9922]

He barely even talked about the good parts of Overwatch. And even he is biased

[@darkusandtoast2207]

@@vegmasit9922 so, what would you add to defend overwatch (the good parts)? I do believe that his focus and covered majority of the defining mechanics of the games. Also, I hate to be that guy, but the purpose of a review is to pose a opinion.

[@IronBrandon22]

My favorite part of Paladins is that it actually admits to being inspired by another game with the *Engie TF2 Skin*

[@thenerdbyrd7026]

Steam gang!

[@saquial]

I’m only used to changing hats.

[@twiddydinks7938]

The Engineer, is engi-here

[@scoutbite4334]

The engineer is engihere -engi after getting in the game

[@denizmergen418]

@@twiddydinks7938 dispenser going up

[@redtie8390]

Paladins was released 1 month after overwatch. You can’t make a game with the amount of contents in that amount of time. Ands it’s free.

[@zmanrockz6358]

5 months actually

[@yolooncey5757]

@Chunky jesus You've heard of pubg, right?

[@peepawsmethstash9743]

@Chunky jesus fortnite is just cartoony pubg by your logic lol

[@killer_smoke7684]

@Chunky jesus the weapons in realmroyale are from paladins also the abilities

[@killer_smoke7684]

@JAYDEN HERRERA I'm. Not a big fan of battle royales and I don't like realm royale cuz it is full of lag and bugs but I played both paladins and realm royale and the weapons were similar

[@BasedGhostman]

I'm starting to think he didn't "just go out for a pack of cigarettes"

[@Shiny_Scrafty]

You don’t get it, they didn’t have his brand so he went to another store and they didn’t have em either and since then he has been traveling around the world looking for THE LAST PACK (a new sitcom coming to the CW this September)

[@leanlover9663]

He went to go get the milk too

[@falaflani4831]

@@Shiny_Scrafty better than most shows on CW

[@quasarone3083]

He said he might come back "in a couple of weeks" a month ago so keep your eyes on that subscription feed

[@goga.games18]

cool kzbin.info/www/bejne/gWHOfIuLeZesjZY

[@quantumraptor1485]

Overwatch vs Paladins Winner: Gigantic

[@TheNemkris]

how can a dead game be the winner?

[@luckluster]

@@TheNemkris easily. During it's lifespan it was more enjoyable than either could ever be. I'd rather take a dying game that I can enjoy than fortnite.

[@potatoking6324]

No ft2

[@thaddeushenry9730]

@Mr. Unoriginal. see, this is why I hate the fucking r/woosh. He wasn't even making a joke and immediately someone's like "Hey I saw those r/woosh videos from soft kore, now I can be cool too. He was being serious which was pretty easy to realize og commenters response.

[@richardlawson9723]

Noice. I commented that beofre him and he got more likes and got a like from shammy yeah thats fair

[@mlt0403]

I miss Gigantic. I was one of those idiots that couldn't run it on my college laptop back when it was still tucked away on that client. I upgraded sometime during school to a pc, went back to this game and had a blast. I still remember how much I fun I had with Sven's goofy kit, out ranging other melee champs with Aisling, and just being a power house with Zandora. The game was honestly just PERFECT, and probably the only reason I ever picked up OW and Paladins, but it just never felt the same. Gigantic had heart because how much love the developers put into it, but it also had an identity that made it stand out. I hate so much that we're in a time where we are for some reason getting an overhyped OW2, but Gigantic doesn't exist.

[@shammytv]

I'm never gonna stop being upset that they didn't just cut official servers and allow for community servers to be a thing, man.

[@bigcripple8591]

This game is getting reborn by the community and it's going pretty well. It probably won't be exactly the same and probably won't have the same design, but at least it's not lost to the abyss of amazing, but undersold and underrated games forever.

[@Hotaga_]

«This game is getting reborn by the community and its going pretty well» well this aged poorly..

[@danjordan4681]

@@Hotaga_ why?

[@christopherlacy425]

Ngl gigantic is the only thing I have felt true grief for

[@ahumblepotato9801]

Gigantic fans, we're so back.

[@F1nicky]

its going to go down just like the "revival" of Paragon lmao

[@Logansaurus01]

Just tried it out for the first time after missing out the first time and being hyped up by this video but I'm not gonna lie: why was this game so hyped? Every match has been pure chaos where all of my teammates pick ranged damage characters while I play the either lone tank or support. It's impossible to tell what's going on in the game cuz there's 800 purple and blue circles on the ground and everything just kind of blends together. I was super disappointed

[@Pyrocynical]

50 minutes of ascension

[@jacovichstabs841]

Please stop bullying PewDiePie.

[@Think_piri]

Where’s petscop 2

[@EllisHudsonn]

Make petscop 2 bitch

[@kingjamezjr3045]

i want petscop 3

[@leuclamdoc]

Where de new overwatch content bro

[@PunkDuck]

Glad you took a break from making the podcast to finish your vid, it was worth it!

[@lokiking3]

Sup duck

[@terracannon876]

Podcast?

[@irwin126]

@@terracannon876 Podcast name is "Please Stop Talking" Check it out, it's pretty good

[@terracannon876]

@@irwin126 Thanks!

[@neondoesnothing]

Glad to see the cheese finally didn't kill you Punk Duck

[@UwU-xk5cx]

"Overwatch has never struggled with balance issues" That didnt age well at all

[@kallum39]

What

[@moojj.]

Kallum Goats

[@AustinBrouillard]

@@moojj. and just brig in general

[@moojj.]

@@AustinBrouillard Yep atleast nowadays brigitte doesn’t feel too much of a pain to play against.

[@AustinBrouillard]

@@moojj. and sigma took her place lol

[@_debacle1466]

Gigantic is back, and I'm hopeful it stays this time. I hope you'll still be playing!

[@loganboline1523]

When you wait nine months to see whether Shammy prefers Paladins or Overwatch and he gives you a swift bamboozling and picks Gigantic

[@twenty-fifth420]

Technically he did answer lol, it was Paladins > Overwatch. But I was clickbaited oof.

[@nahush6299]

@@twenty-fifth420 The sad truth here is that money is indeed everything......OW is much more popular due to how much it was publicised while paladins lacks polish as it has less than 1/10th the budget of ow.And finally we see a very good game(Gigantic) in its genre completely destroyed since the devs behind it didnt have any support.

[@CommSchuKadaj]

@@nahush6299 Having been firmly in Paladin's corner since buying and starting the game back in November 2015 (where it was a vastly different game). Hi-Rez has done it's absolute best to alienate their older Paladins players. The route they're going on, specifically the events, but also the reduction of customization to the character (I am still so angry for what they did with the Nova Strike collection, that you had to buy and Earn, and later on they just wiped it.), VIP into battlepass, Cards Unbound. I remember what I signed up for, I did not want another Smite joke.. and they're turning into a Smite joke.. Overwatch is limited, but they chased me there.

[@zatchbell366]

@@CommSchuKadaj oof i miss my skin and parts and pieces customisation

[@lupethe1]

@@zatchbell366 same here even voice pack customization

[@Lekeing]

I think the hardest part of this video was the fact that you somehow completely sold me on Gigantic just to end up telling me that this amazing game I'd never heard about had actually already died. Completely pulled the rug out from under me. 2020 edit: I hope Shammy uploads again soon. When people like this comment it reminds me of how much I enjoyed this video.

[@Oreonis]

yup... I was ready to go download it and was even looking for it on steam

[@HolyApplebutter]

I asked my friend to check if it was on PS4, and if not was gonna play it on PC. And I don't even typically like hero shooters.

[@YumLemmingKebabs]

As an Accursed Farms fan this was a familiar feeling.

[@braydenthomas6104]

Ikr. I'm regretting wasting my money on overwatch and I want so bad to get gigantic and support those creators. But we can't.

[@ppnbful]

He wanted to bring some ppl but motiga and the servers shut down midway the writing He made a post on twitter calling everyone to play, he was waiting for the review to be done but the servers shut down was announced

[@liamwilliamson7694]

So if we start a crowd-Funder to bring back Gigantic, would that bring Shammy back?

[@Rabbit-zs7sr]

I swear the podcast channel is just the main channel at this point

[@iiittt281]

@@Rabbit-zs7sr whats his podcast channel called?

[@bapob]

@@iiittt281 please stop talking

[@BumbleCrumble1072]

It’s called “Please Stop Talking”

[@needless2048]

Oh, that’s actually the name? I thought the guy before was just being rude.

[@gen2mediainc.577]

People wonder how he takes so long, but h Th en you realize that for both games, he talks like hes a member of the community and uses proper jargon. He doesn’t just play the games to review them, he learns everything he can about them.

[@TheF0xskibidbopmmdada]

Yep

[@shrekonion8307]

@@TheF0xskibidbopmmdada holy shit its you

[@carrosivejones1969]

Combine that with the fact that he had to do the same with a third game and you got a long period between episodes. Maybe that's why he hasn't uploaded in so long?

[@TheF0xskibidbopmmdada]

@@shrekonion8307 where did we meet before

[@shrekonion8307]

@@TheF0xskibidbopmmdada forget it donny, youre way out of your element

[@jacob5169]

This review made me sad at the end. I had no knowledge about Gigantic, but your review absolutely sold it to me. I was honestly planning on showing it to my friends and trying to get them into it. To hear how much it was screwed over really depressed me as it meant that a game I would love to play is now dead forever. As much as I wish and hope that the team gets back together and the game is somehow going to be one day supported, I know with almost 100% certainty that it won't happen.

[@sadtoast6122]

You can't run from your mistakes forever *im faster than you DAD*

[@finnagainghibli2031]

someone time stamp this for me

[@chekovsgunman]

Finnagain Ghibli 28:21

[@SINGEKOO]

Oh shit. I JUST got it.

[@leetaiming64]

Guess what.... Gigantic is back on April 9th!

[@Jwilhoftstg]

Paladins is only balanced because, as Syndrome said... "If every character is OP, no one is" Wait is that not the quote

[@beatsbythestorm3428]

It is. “And when everyone’s super... No one will be.”

[@minoadlawan4583]

DOTA and Paladins have the same balance philosophy.

[@lukeaustin4465]

It's balanced because of the item system.

[@General_Fuck_Yeah_AnimeTitties]

You Kinda got to give it to shammy, he's a comical genius. Even two years later and five hours worth of watching this video I'm still finding little jokes in the script I didn't pick up on before.

[@danka1167]

The only joke that was genuinely good was the psvita one. Some of the jokes could land but his voice and tone is too annoying when he makes a joke.

[@mikasacus]

great vid shammy! see you next year!

[@vaibhavkumar8178]

Mikasacus BRUH IM CRYING IT REALLY BE LIKE THAT 😂😂

[@SianaGearz]

In two years you mean?

[@mjs188]

Deadass lmao

[@justanotherjerros9054]

oh hey mikasacus, cool to see you here

[@arempy5836]

I don't think mikasacus is being facetious. The New Year is only a month away.

[@coreblaster6809]

You made me fall in love with a game I've never heard of until just now then proceeded to make me mourn for it all within the same half hour.

[@kon-ichiwa6987]

Same.

[@SkrapMetal84]

yea same here.

[@puppyxfyr9757]

God dammit I know right... Shammy your abusing your power... stahp it... my heart can't take this... are you gonna talk about ghost in the shell next?

[@Janfon1]

What a shame, what a shame

[@eddieddieeddie]

Like the man born blind mourning the loss of colour

[@TheMrBronie]

"I understand that a lot of people won't be talking what I'm saying seriously" You see, the problem is that you're completely, absolutely right about everything.

[@ArkayeCh]

- Gives a thorough analysis of two prominent games and its issues - Great segue into recommending a different hero shooter that patches those issues instead of just choosing one side - *It's Gigantic*

[@someguy4405]

- Doesn’t elaborate - Leaves

[@ARaccoonTalking]

Hearing you talk about Motiga and Gigantic almost made me cry. I played it since beta and on first playthrough instantly knew it was a masterpiece and one of the greatest online games ever made, and almost wept whenever they made the announcement of it shutting down. It's truly upsetting knowing that hardly anyone had the chance to experience this game that could have evolved into an amazing community because of Overwatch fanboys crying over it or people with a computer from the 90's complaining about a game from 2017 couldn't run on it. I salute you Shammy, thank you for giving this game the proper sendoff.

[@Bazeleel]

Dude same 😭

[@Morningknights]

Raccoon I was deeply upset as it seemed like a amazing game and something I’m looking for in a game. Only to hear it was shut down once I’ve heard it

[@stevepenn2582]

This was a game that I always looked at and wanted to play but sadly never had a computer that could run it, its really a shame tbh.

[@WiiFitGOTY]

I had never heard of the game but it impressed the pants off me visually. Hearing it was shut down 10 minutes after learning about its existence is the most depressing thing that has happened to me this week.

[@Rey-eq4vq]

Me too. I even did art for gigantic and it got retweeted! R.I.P Gigantic.

[@nbtwall7287]

(from spreadsheet) Bastion's recon mode: walk around with a machine gun. Similar pre-existing mechanic: walking around with a machine gun (Wolfenstein 3D) This shit is gold. Soldier 76's tacitcal visor: auto aim. Pre-existing mechanic: Cheating.

[@E-nfileexe]

SHAMMY THE YEAR IS 2024 right now Gearbox just announced that they are reviving GIGANTIC ITS BACK

[@CisoSecond]

For anyone who might be finding this in the future: Gigantic is back!!

[@nathanfrank5554]

This video you've been working on for 8 months is going to be awesome.

[@peenboi]

Nathan Frank all we can do is wait

[@AdamSmith-wf3bb]

:

[@abudgie6909]

Make that 9

[@ImNotFine44]

An actual review on no man’s sky finished edition

[@fakename8506]

I thought he quit???

[@larzpeterson6471]

Well he did it. He didn't upload anything in 2019

[@sethington719]

Ready for 2020?

[@notatroll7128]

@@sethington719 lol no.

[@noodleboop6093]

And no sign of him in 2020 either.

[@spedge2332]

I made it 665, one more like pls

[@haruhirogrimgar6047]

@@sethington719 No one was.

[@bobberhd9655]

Good news for those rewatching giagantic is getting a remake/remaster in april 2024 with new maps and character

[@ashchild2000]

So for those who haven't heard Project: Stamina is a spiritual successor to Gigantic that is in development. I'm not sure if any of the minds from Motiga are in on the project but it might be something worth checking out!

[@coopyrbrown3031]

@Marcelgit what happened now?

[@TorManiak]

@Marcelgit And the reason for that is that the project is on hold because some of the people working on the project was/were(?) exposed to some allegations iirc. It will most likely never appear again, considering how it was organized and how the people working on it were basically doing it for free.

[@babdead1016]

Can we all just point out this man put 1 ad in a 50 minute video

[@theballs6825]

Lil Kebab he a goat that’s why 🐐

[@f.b.iagent3971]

Sernandoe: *puts 8 in a 15 min video*

[@Pingytyt]

We owe it to him to watch it

[@spoople_doople]

Somebody like naught.4 live would put 90

[@ancientaxolotl1654]

@@f.b.iagent3971 *12

[@Art1stical]

"Blizzard has been building a theme park, Hi-Rez has been running a circus." I don't think there has ever been a more accurate description of two products ever. Holy crap, that's genius. It was well worth the wait. I look forward to the next one.

[@TimeOfSin]

Because they're businessmen and want people to try more than one ride, a flawed strategy, but kinda necessary for the longevity of their theme-park.

[@lupethe1]

Tbh when he said tht I never wouldve thought of it tht way but it's tru XD

[@TimeOfSin]

A flawed strategy, as I said. But I get the intent, even if it isnt well executed.

[@Doncroft1]

@Sarincrow Physolopy? That's a new word.

[@leetaiming64]

Guess what.... Gigantic is back on April 9th!

[@arsontheaverage8821]

God rewatching this video is hard...its been years and I still have a gigantic shaped hole in my heart. Its painful to watch a video on gigantic and not internally cry because it was so damn good and it never got a chance..

[@BobbinRobbin777]

*_GUESS WHO’S COMING BAAACK!_*

[@arsontheaverage8821]

@@BobbinRobbin777 YYYYEEEEAHHHH LETS FHUCKKIINN GOOOOOOOOOO

[@omegarhotv4746]

Oct 5th- 2023. Gearbox now owns Gigantic and we just had a “throwback” play test. There is hope. And I think Shammy might largely responsible for the game coming back to like.

[@alphaamigo9688]

I clicked on this video to watch a review of two games I've never played. I left feeling heartbroken over a third game. Wtf?

[@fletcharn8205]

mood

[@TheInsomniaddict]

Welcome to a Shammy video. There's no upside.

[@lumirotrippin7368]

same here lmao

[@JosephAndersonChannel]

Paladins are in World of Warcraft. Not Overwatch. Congratulations on getting it finished, Shammy. The amount of work that has to go into a video like this on one multiplayer game is staggering. And you did it on two. Respect.

[@zeldamon5]

Come on Joseph, you of all people should know to watch the video before commenting! The absolute madman didn't just do two, he did T H R E E.

[@Mentiac]

Shammy, you've made it.

[@goldcreeper7376]

It's not his fault, he's a weeb now, he tries his hardest to make poor life choices

[@SaladDongs]

Just imagine how much time it would take to make a video on THREE open world rpgs based off of books which got inspired by polish and European mythology. Damn

[@luckluster]

@@zeldamon5 Most people check and make comments before finishing the video anyways. Still agreed on getting this video done, it must've been hard.

[@noahdigit430]

Remembered this video when I saw the announcement. Seems like GIGANTIC is being re-released by Gearbox as "Rampage Edition." I guess this isnt that darkest timeline! Maybe with Overwatch's (now Overwatch 2) reputation plummeted, perhaps this game will get the attention it deserves. it will launch around April 9th, 2024. It seems as though you can sign up for the playtest on the steam page aswell.

[@otter968]

6 years later: we're so back

[@BrendanielReads]

Pffft, showing Pythagoras when mentioning theory. Did you think that'd slip by me?

[@MaxLoafin]

What's your angle?

[@AprilVibes_]

@@MaxLoafin lmfao

[@davepearce516]

@@MaxLoafin Well played

[@KvS1x3]

@@cursedvindiesel7679 get out.

[@meepmerp1562]

@@cursedvindiesel7679 leave

[@SuperGamingDude]

Is this really the owl? The owl that’s been missing?

[@titansparrow64]

I thought this was the owl that does the funnies not the owl that does the sad

[@toucsthetoucan2664]

Who?

[@Finalzero]

I thought it got shot.

[@coffesaurus5399]

SuperGaming Dude strix

[@common_rider0]

Insane foreshadowing in the description

[@ashleywalker6931]

Rewatching this now that Gigantic seems to be getting a revival

[@inaraoftyria3878]

I just wanted to say I'm gonna call Hammond "Bakugan Battle Hamster" for the rest of my existence.

[@xan.xet.]

InaraOfTyria you the real og here literally thought of Bakugan when I first saw Hammond lmao

[@inaraoftyria3878]

@@xan.xet. SAME THO

[@lightmare312]

I just wanted to say I'm gonna call Hammond "WREAKING BALL" for the rest of my existence.

[@joeyrambo20]

XanXet if you didn't think if Bakugan the second he was announced that than I'm sorry about whatever happened to you but it doesn't excuse the monster you've become lol

[@nodiggity4283]

And Brigette is a war crime. IDK what about that made me laugh so much

[@mrbones941]

Because its true...

[@malte4984]

The truth made you laugh

[@Wolf-xv3qb]

With OW2 and Paladins in shambles and Gigantic returning, this video aged quite nicely ^^

[@godlyvex5543]

I wouldn't really say they're in shambles, they're both still fun games

[@WhoStoleMyNachos]

WE'RE SO BACK GIGANTIC IS RETURNINGGGGG

[@peanutpablo9596]

That "Meta isn't designed but discovered" line is MWUAH perfect

[@vinczeszilard5155]

The Hearthstone Team and generally Blizzard as a whole company should read this.

[@kiwi3085]

@James Lloyd Take a stand on a stance instead of capitulating every time some nerd yells at them?

[@lred1383]

@@youngpharaohdisciple3962 total word count: 158 amount of times the word "kid" was used: 4 total swearwords/insults: 39 percentage of swearwords/insults in the text: ~25% Every 4th word in that rant. You have issues

[@SpudRusset]

Lil Casting Couch lol GOATs comp

[@lyon2475]

@LRed13 It's like he saw that Navy Seal rant meme and thought, "I can do better."

[@randomproductions3979]

His goal for 2019 was to post 7 videos. The year has almost ended and he hasn't posted a single one

[@fallenxsxxcxx4657]

Its sad

[@pissandcornflakes9119]

last week of December there will be a video every single day

[@ethab57]

New vid 2020 incoming

[@dewaynerichardson5895]

@@pissandcornflakes9119 nope

[@pissandcornflakes9119]

@@dewaynerichardson5895 shit

[@MuniaXe]

Shammy the game is coming back, April Gigantic is being relaunched!

[@GabrielTobing]

10:04 1 Year Later: The Paladins community still hates Vivian mains.

[@psychoticunicorns7616]

dredge sucks too

[@zacherydixon7969]

I just started Paladins and Vivian was the first character I bought :c so I guess everyone hates me

[@austincarlson9270]

@@psychoticunicorns7616 lol he's the most brain died character he's so fun to use tho

[@austincarlson9270]

@@zacherydixon7969 na ur fine she is counter or at least I counter get her pretty well

[@zaitwo5637]

Can confirm.

[@Corrupted]

The Part about blizzard ruining metas and skill ceilings is so true about wow

[@AnakinFury]

It's hard to play high skill-tier characters like Ash when broken characters exist that do the same function better, easier, and faster. Like freaking Reaper. Sure, Ash can use her shotgun to counter his close-range attacks but after that she's done.

[@borzavrl]

@@AnakinFury Lol what, Reaper is not broken and doesn't obsolete Ashe or any other character, it's literally the exact opposite. Reaper is one of the worst characters in the game

[@rolandngom5080]

Anakin80042 Fury I can tell you’re low rank if you think reaper is op

[@VideoGamesRus100]

@@AnakinFury Lmao I was on board with this character till you said Reaper. If you had said Pharah,Soldier, or Tracer instead I would be 100% with you.

[@borzavrl]

Soldier has also been quite mediocre for a long time... Pharah and Tracer are decent heroes but they don't obsolete the other characters either, especially not high skill cap heroes like Ashe.

[@Zayindjejfj]

Well damn, Gigantic sounded amazing and then you got to the part where it went to nothing due to everyone being idiots. Geez that's a dark end for a group of people who had passion.

[@timothytosser288]

"Maybe i am a size queen " hold up

[@sakura_val]

Foreshadowing is a narrative device in which-

[@taintedmemories11]

And gigantic is back!

[@DrOwn-hq9ot]

Gigantic has to be one of the saddest stories in gaming, RIP Motiga.

[@Dr.Oofers]

Dr. Own agreed. Same with battleborn, believe it or not they didn’t intend to release it when overwatch was coming out. Blizzard delayed over watches release to a week after battleborn’s. So basically battleborn could have lived but blizzard found a way to screw them over.

[@devynd6476]

Oh wow, Owl Boy isn't dead.

[@Taartin]

he is by now lol

[@radRadiolarian]

are you going to make a "one year later" video about this? paladins has changed a lot this past year

[@notexactlysiev]

"Meta isn't designed, it's discovered." Please someone make Riot Games realize this. Meta isn't something you hide in your game for the players to find. It's a moba not an egg hunt

[@alt0248]

Wait... So we have to discover the meta in league? Isn't that what riot hiding the meta would imply?

[@crescento7002]

Riot kinda leaves up to players to discover potential of champs and to discover strategies with errors and succes. It would be kinda dumb if Riot dictated meta with each patch.

[@creativerock1646]

You just contradicted yourself mate

[@thegrayyernaut]

Your comment contradicts itself. Also, Riot Game doesn't hide the meta, they want to force it openly. Whenever certain champions are played in lanes they're not "designed" to be in, or items are bought by champions they are not "designed" for, Riot has a spasm and does everything it can to "readjust" and kill the meta. Example: Sona top was axed. However, I cannot understand how Riot approaches new champions. Seraphine is essentially Sona 2.0 and she does not suffer the anti-sololane nerfs Sona went through, effectively making Seraphine a replacement for Sona, better than her in almost every way.

[@psinjo]

Meta is also an ever evolving thing, if lee top was just the go to forever, the game would be boring and stale, but just like how players at the recent MSI started aggressively invading rumble, just because a champ WAS top pick / super powerful doesn't mean that there aren't methods to counter the pick either. Yes, some champs get nerfed, some get buffed, it's not just flinging darts at a board. Riot isn't perfect either, 'better nerf irelia' was a meme for years for good reason. But the best way to handle the meta is to think about who/how to counter whoever is popular right now, because that person may just be the next best pick

[@BlazeArceus777]

Changes to Paladins since this video (to be updated): 1) The number of total talents for every champion has been decreased from 4 down to 3. Flat buff talents such as Firefight have generally been the talents to be removed, and a handful of these talents have been displaced within loadout cards instead. Unfortunately though, some flat buff talents such as Fusillade and Eagle Eye still remain. 2) In the item shop, you are now able to purchase any number of items from one particular category, but can still only buy 4 total. This means you could purchase both Chronos and Morale Boost, for example. 3) Khan’s ultimate is now a skillshot that requires direct aim to capture an enemy, and therefore is generally easier to whiff. 4) As of the Steel Forged update, the Strix DX11 Ultimate big has (finally) been fixed. 5) Firefight has been replaced with 3 Round Burst (it’s exactly what it sounds like)

[@aldwinniel3445]

I like the new shop thing because some characters are hard to counter without another item for example skye she doesn't have enough mobility you can easily get killed by inara without cc reduction and dps reduction

[@darkchoco402]

keep doing it

[@hairy_putin]

The talent Skye had that made her smokes into impacts with 600 damage was a life save for me. Usually, unless you have the advantage of surprise, you won't kill a realtively full heath enemy before you die from them. The impact helped solve this, as both an element to disappear, and a fallback in case you're in the verge of death. It was amazing against tanks because suddenly a flank had significant use against one. But now that it's gone, I've just gone back to playing Cassie.

[@ancientaxolotl1654]

And the devs admitted the game has a spaghetti code,which basically means that its more complicated than the Kingdom Hearts franchise and that for every bug they fix another appears,the game literally can't get better anymore and with Hi-rez being the publisher its just the matter of time the game dies

[@nahina801]

@@hairy_putin With the right loadout, you can use poison bolts two - three times in a one on one fight, depending on enemy health. Assuming that you hit all the poison bolts, that's 30% of their health gone each time you fire the bolts, and that is without the Debilitate loadout card which makes poison bolts do 25% increased damage twice as fast. So unless the target is being constantly healed/you don't have cauterise at a high enough level, there is a very small chance of you losing a fight if you can hit those poison bolts. I know this is highly subjective given individual skill levels and etc, but that 600 burst really didn't do much, in the same way Willow's removed talent did a burst of 500 or so damage on impact. It was situational and since you're playing a Skye, the point of her is to be an annoying glass cannon who can burst down higher hp champs with ease from behind (ESPECIALLY tanks since the higher the HP, the more damage poison bolts does). I get the allure of that 600 burst, but regular smoke can provide just as much cover + health, and Debilitate = less fights lost = more time alive. At the moment Debilitate is pretty much her best talent given her role as the glass cannon, and overall to be honest. Skye is a really good pick against a comp with 2 or more tanks; she MELTS tanks with cauterise (especially ones that can't run away from her).

[@JoshinoGaming]

Great comparison on Paladins, as someone who loves Paladins, enjoys Overwatch casually and also loved Gigantic back in the day I personally thing you hit the nail on the head. I think for the most part Paladins fans would do some well by taking a break now and then and chilling on OW for something slightly different but not too diferent and visa versa with Overwatch fans.

[@nikb.337]

Wow I remember you from back when I used to play Planetside 2! Didn't expect to find you on this channel. How are you doing? Still playing Planetside from time to time?

[@JoshinoGaming]

@@nikb.337 I'm tempted with the nanite faction!

[@AEPPLE_MUSIC]

i agree with you but i still cant stop getting really annoyed at him for his lack of understanding of pro OW play as I personally play a lot of competitive OW and am a leader of masters OW team. Him saying that OW of all games primarily takes mechanics shows that he really never has experienced how it is to play OW in a real team environment.

[@delf2731]

I enjoyed OW for it's polish, character interactions and graphics. But the hero switching and lack of customization turned me off. Also it's not fun to get stunned by McCree and then killed immediately. Or frozen by Mei and then shattered (maybe i just didnt get how she works)

[@abingus8509]

TheAppleJhon I agree with you but i still can’t stop getting really annoyed at the fact that a game’s competitive scene is not what the game should be review on. A game is not good if it takes super high skill play to begin to address properly in a review. He also is not a Paladins pro or fully understands the top masters level of play for Paladins equivalent to the OW masters level of play you’re talking about. Paladins as a base game has more to offer and that’s what it comes down to.

[@Meese12]

SHAMMY COME BACK AND REACT

[@thebutterfluffman6855]

To me paladins feels like a less toxic version of overwatch. I like both however I like paladins better because the higher health pools provide better and more precise needs and buffs for character damage

[@genetta2572]

Of course you had to talk about Gigantic, now I want to die

[@TrillCozby]

That's how I feel whenever I think about Battleborn :'(

[@Subst4nce12]

Did the game go off...if it did thats a shame it looks fun to play

[@JamesLee-yn4wj]

@@TrillCozby OMEGALUL

[@PabloLopez-hz2hq]

When gigantic came out it looked so cool to me and unique and wanted to give it a go. Unfortunately, my computer wasn’t exactly state of the art so I couldn’t run it like I wanted to. Unlike the other people, I didn’t bitch about it because I blame it on me. Now that Ik what the company and game have gone through I feel bad and disappointed I couldn’t play it and that it couldn’t become the next game due to issues.

[@KiwiDragn]

It died because of the changes they were forced to make between Beta and full release. They set up the beta for bug fixes and final design changes. A bunch of Overwatch players got Beta keys and flooded the forums with "suggestions" which the dev team took to heart and quickly made changes to impliment a fix for all the complaints they got. By release they had made it impossible to do anything without a meta team while every other character was useless. Assassins did no damage and healers were nuking. By the time the dev team realized they were effectively sabotaged it was too late and their player base was gone. Gigantic quietly died a few months later. When people ask me why Overwatch should die I point them to this string of disaster the players caused. Some of the complaints made on the forums were from people who never even played the game, up voting posts like "ranged characters do too much damage my tank character can't kill them." They knew what they were doing.

[@SpicyTaco95]

Another Stellar review with actual thought and care put into it. Not a 30 minute romp through reddit comments, punctuated by screams and swearing, and after being lead in by a bad, gos-on-for-far-too-long skit; but an actual review by someone who obviously put in hundreds if not thousands of hours into the games, genre, and community. Ive said it before and I'll say it again. YOU are what is Needed in the gaming community. Please do not stop making these reviews, they are a joy to sit through and Well worth the wait! This industry and all its fassets are designed to Kill passionate artists, as evidenced by Motiga. I hope that both you and the devs of Gigantic continue to work passionately and find success. You all are the pioneer's light in this seething cesspool of corpse puppets, disease, and stagnet misery we call gaming. Thank you for putting value into your work and your fans.

[@gin9410]

Preach

[@shanevitak4310]

Let's start a petition to bring gigantic and motiga back!

[@shanevitak4310]

There's gotta be hope, RIGHT? I wanna play now, and I'm going to go to any lengths to make that happen...

[@SpicyTaco95]

@@shanevitak4310 He has a link to the discord in the description where you can get a tutorial/link/thing to play Gigantic. My PC is not at all strong enough to run Gigantic however.

[@gnoblin2528]

> Maybe I'm just a size queen. Was it always there??? Am I going insane???!

[@RatchetSly]

Yes, to both!

[@loadingerror9975]

Watch the record review and wait for him to talk about tumbler

[@PlayerTSD]

I've played a lot of games that were shut down, but I think none of them were as "tragic" as Gigantic. Truly an amazing game with amazing people behind it, really sucks it wasn't given a real chance...

[@bierfassl123123]

I feel the same way. Gigantic and Dawngate. Both great games with fresh ideas that were cancled because of an unwelcoming community.

[@gluechoomoo9059]

i use to play it everyday but not enough players ;(((

[@deadlykitten6546]

te kinda of people he complained about were 100x more fierce for Paladin, yet paladin still exists and Gigantic is gone, there are far more simpler reasons for why Gigantic failed, the most easy one is that heroes are just freaking directly not fun to play, the map design ofc is filled with choice but that doesnt directly equate to fun, and there can be tons of theories to why taht happened, in my experience, the choices you make doesnt even matter much, and its impossible to coordinate between 5 strangers so the focus usage is just wasted around, the upgrade system for hero is also garbage tier, its overly saturated with sht taht its in desperate needs of simplifying, and worst of all, no matter how i upgrade not much differences is felt, Gigantic made the worst mistakes that a hero based game can make, the abilities of the heroes are too weak, or the map is too big, together it results to ppl playing it not feeling like they're doing anything other than running around blindly doing nothing, no feed back, no gratifying, no nothing. just randomly some time later a giant cut scene of some random monster fighting another monster they have no idea where tf they come or anything to do with them, and it eventuates nothign other than the feeling of boring, and thats the worst any developer of a game could have hoped for. I dont care how how sold the idea the team were on that like you said they worked for free to finish this game, or how charismatic that lead designer is to make them so, but as far as skill of designing fun game mechanics is concerned, he is a fking fail., and thats why the game Gigantic is huge failure. Ive been following Gigantic since the first time its shown on E3, and its the biggest disappoint that year when i tried on arc.

[@mushrooms5757]

Any of you remember Cloud Pirates then?

[@MrRBX]

Dawngate was seriously killed too soon

[@rocketman2485]

"and Brigitte is a war crime" LIKES VIDEO

[@thebiggestnut217]

think u mean brig-ee-ette

[@alilweeb7684]

One month later and she still a war crime

[@DumBistachio]

When does he say that again? I forgot

[@alilweeb7684]

@@DumBistachio 8:52

[@Doctor_Birds]

@@alilweeb7684 would just like to update you, shes still a warcrime, and they made reaper one too.

[@jacksoneee6759]

List of tech in OW that hasn’t been fixed: mercy super jump, doomfist super jump off low objects, doomfist stall on areas you aren’t meant to get to. That’s just about it.

[@oreoman5993]

I'm pretty sure Blizzard aren't going to fix the jumps. I think they realised people were using them in their games but it's wasn't really broken so they kept it

[@dmodk8010]

There are more. I dint have time to remove them al but. 1 dommfist diagonal punch. Rein hop certain maps can skip gaps. Pharaoh don’t know the name of it.

[@Veilure]

6 months late, but Double boop Wall jump Fireball cancel Hitbox reverse thingy Bhop (singular) and many others

[@firellio070]

You must be the support who picked Ana so you can dps everybody except the person diving you, lol.

[@leetaiming64]

Guess what.... Gigantic is back on April 9th!

[@Lt31337Luca]

Just sending some people the Gigantic section since the rerelease got announced. We are so back.

[@Kushina-43]

Hey Shammy, just letting you know that you're still introducing people like me to Gigantic, that discord server is still up and running and plays practically every day. Sucks I can't play characters like Rutger (who looked fun from this vid's footage) but the game is just as fun as you said. Thanks again

[@stanley1698]

Is the server still up, and if so, would it be possible for you to post a link? The one in the video description appears to have expired.

[@Kushina-43]

@@stanley1698 Sure is! Don't play much currently personally but there's usually several games every day Discord is ydXTg8 1 day inv

[@stanley1698]

@@Kushina-43 Thank you

[@weewoo3892]

@@Kushina-43 Tried to join but I wasn't invited oof ;-;

[@koishibestwaifu4904]

Hey, if you guys are missing Gigantic, there’s a team looking to make a game just like it because they loved it so much. discord.gg/7akQUKf

[@syntheticpacifist]

Hearing you talk about Gigantic makes my heart break, because I can practically hear every ounce of love you have for that game with how you wrote that segment. It's such a shame that happened to Motiga, and even though I don't have a computer that could survive playing even a couple minutes of the game, it seems like something I would enjoy in all honesty. Even if it takes a bit for me to wrap my head around all of the mechanics. Excellent video Avery, I'm glad to hear your voice in a separate context from the podcast, lol. Let's hope you can keep to the goal of 7 videos (or, god forbid, more than that) for next year. Even if you can't, well, I'll still appreciate everything you put out. Also sleep more, you tool.

[@sirta6172]

This comment really put into words what I was thinking. That bit at the end about Gigantic really got me in the feels, it’s really obvious how much you cared about it. Love your work Avery, here’s to another vid sometime before 2020!

[@shadowhunter9976]

You know maybe I'm being presumptuous but I'd like to think that this video contributed, even if only a little bit, to Gigantic's comeback.

[@thetrueweirdest1]

This video is amazing. It’s gotten to the point where my friends and I will regularly quote, “I’m faster than you dad.” At each other.

[@DrachenYT]

Damn, spent 10-15 minutes of the video baiting me with an absolute gem of a game that is no longer feasible to play. What an absolute tragedy. Motiga deserved better.

[@GoodolKev]

This world fucking sucks :(

[@GeorgeTsiros]

"that is no longer feasible to play." wait... what? I can think of some reasons but I want to hear yours?

[@KillaOfTheTime]

​@@GeorgeTsiros you wanted to hear reasons why they shutdown the servers?

[@gavinrichmond9035]

Dead man comes out of hiding (2018)

[@codywarner3264]

Dead man goes back into hiding 2019

[@reller82]

GIGANTIC IS BACK!

[@WilhalmBrion]

Let’s go again Shammy. Gigantic is giving it another go!

[@richardlawson9723]

So basically the winner between Paladins and Overwatch is Gigantic

[@gragaten]

Giga what?

[@TheOneTrueNothing]

Richard Lawson It's Obama vs Romney all over again.

[@GothaBillsAndDeath]

That is honestly the saddest story I have ever heard. It made me cry a little.

[@axaxaaxaxa6269]

Gigantic more like battle born

[@campbellgeary2773]

The winner is no one

[@WeekendWarrior1]

RIP Gigantic. I loved that game.

[@94DEATHSOUL94]

Loved the concept, the art and the gameplay, such a shame what happened to it.

[@sobranius]

F

[@eamonn_3]

13 what happened to it??

[@oopssry3536]

@@eamonn_3 got shut down

[@Yawyna124]

WAAAAH?!?!?! FAK, i WAS WATCHING THIS AND WANTED TO PLAY IT. IT LOOKED LIKE BATTLEBORNE, BUT STILL ALIVE, BUT ISN'T. AND THEN SHAMMY CONFIRMED IT, FAK D:

[@squiggles5640]

"I'm faster than you, dad" I'm glad I came back to rewatch this years later

[@arsontheaverage8821]

GIGANTIC IS BACK YEEEEEEEEAAHHHHHHHHHHH

[@halley6903]

Defence, utility, healing And R E D

[@madengineerkyouma]

Defence, utility, healing And A G G R E S S I O N

[@halley6903]

TheDarkM rip aggression

[@davidhong1934]

RED: Readily Enjoyable Dermatitis

[@DarkTree]

should've just called it "defence, utility, healing, and cauterize. oh unless you're playing these two characters. then you take this one."

[@No.1-Yellow-Wood-Sorrel-Fan]

I actually almost cried during the gigantic segment, and I’ve never played the game before. I WILL join the server.

[@GepettoDaShaman]

Same story here. I most probably wont be able to play the game but I will share Motiga's story for sure.

[@CraftedFTW]

Didn't expect to see you here other kim fan XD

[@bryanhernandez6830]

You should its really fun, ive been a fan since the first alpha. Sucks that Microsoft basically helped eith the death of the game. I really loved this game and was happy that it came out on steam but was ad on the fact that many people gave it a bad review cuz they weren't able to run it broke my heart since i knew about the whole story of the devs working hard on it with no pay. Im just glad that more and more people ate talking about this game. I hope it comes back cuz damn was it one of the best games ive played

[@tommydoez]

The story made me sad and the review of the game is fantastic but while I was looking at the gameplay there was absolutely too much going on and my brain hurts. Blessings to the developers but my body will not play it.

[@n1ght7ngale]

I wonder how he is feeling now with the recent gigantic reboot announcement lol

[@RatchetSly]

She's probably pretty pleased, haha.

[@tyrant351]

2 years later and his rant about how unfair Gigantic got treated made me fucking cry.

[@artemisjones3443]

Really makes me wish It was more readily available I'd love to play it with a few of my friends

[@KappaKaijuOfficial]

Always worth the wait, been hoping for this video since you mentioned the possibility of something similar in your top 10 games of 2016 video. Your uploads are always a treat

[@BS-jw7nf]

The owl boy top 10 is still a personal favorit

[@kvn95ss]

Fancy seeing you here. But yes owl boi like owl boy

[@quinttwo]

thanks for introducing me to this channel

[@robadc]

I guess since motiga is now "dead" I can disclose what little information I have from my time under NDA. The game truly did have some great ideas behind it. I loved the idea completely but I need to state their business strategy was terrible. The game was originally more of a Moba before it was really a hero shooter. Those elements if I remember correctly were focused on later. Most of the publicity it got was centered around the Moba crowd near the start, which sort of wrote it off. This was made worse by it's requirements, which while not insane lets be honest, with the games target audience being what it was at the time, cut off an entire astronomical unit of their potential playerbase. Compound this with the niche already having two large competitors in Smite and Paragon, one of which had low enough requirements to grab up most of the players in the target audience and the other subsequently suffered a shutdown. After the release of OW and Paladins the game now had a niche whose players could actually play it... and those players had one of the biggest gaming releases of all time in OW. All this while Gigantic struggled to change their marketing strategy. I'll admit I didn't spend too much time around Gigantic but I think I can say this for certain. The game was a marketing nightmare through all stages of its existence. I'm pretty sure everything that could've gone wrong went wrong and the saddest part is that it was not for lack of a dedicated and truly inspirational dev team, it was just the market. //Edit Added references to Smite and Paragon

[@LordAlacorn]

I followed the game until release and some time after - checking up on it to find out what's going up with the game was like trying to find government secret documents.

[@PKIVV]

Marketing be the killer. I would have played the hell out of that game if I knew it existed.

[@leguan278]

Rob DC im gonna be 100% honest, when i first Saw this game it was a moba, which i hate, so i wrote it completly OFF, but seeing it now and what it turned out to be... im really disapointed in myself for not looking more into it.

[@MasterSorez]

I think their first problem was not releasing it for steam and other operating systems because microsoft was forcing the windows shop really hard. But i understand that they had to due to needing funding to develop.

[@ELIASFA3]

Gigantic is back!

[@Se0kga]

I kinda hope she makes a remake of this video using the newest versions of each game, but one can hope, and only hope

[@sillylilstella]

If you haven't heard, she's visiting a residency for 3 months, she's been offline for about a week now.