Very saddened to hear of Gordon's passing. Sending my condolences to the PCWorld crew!
@sharpethunder13 күн бұрын
Rip Gordan
@asdtyuv16 күн бұрын
3:00 for Gigabyte "Level" is the negative curve it applies to PBO Curve Optimizer with 70/80/90 obviously being temp target, Level 5 is -50, Level 4 is -40 so on.
@iothomas16 күн бұрын
Ok thank you for the initial explanation, but what is a negative curve? And what is -50, -40 etc representing?
@asdtyuv16 күн бұрын
@@iothomas As said, it's the negative offset for the "Curve optimizer" part of PBO
@lancer906316 күн бұрын
@@iothomas From my understanding it is the Voltage, as in -50 mV given to the CPU
@pcworld16 күн бұрын
Yes, I know I did a horrible job explaining PBO :P -Adam
@DeadPiixxel13 күн бұрын
RIP Gordon
@Star_Gazing_Coffee_Lover12 күн бұрын
RIP, Gordon, you will be greatly missed!
@hefnyx15 күн бұрын
I admire how you simplified PBO Enhancement and demonstrated it with numerical data, as well as your elegant shirt!
@DylanBlanko14 күн бұрын
The graphs at 7:05 and 7:45 show exactly the same numbers?
@fredluetkemeier343313 күн бұрын
I noticed the same thing. Seems very unlikely that they got the exact same numbers between two different games
@ThaexakaMavro13 күн бұрын
Rest in peace Gordon
@lordcustard-smythe-smith915316 күн бұрын
Have been using enhanced 2 with 85C limit along with the tighter memory timings option on MSI with a 7800x3d. No crashes so far, and a much faster system with less lag. MSI claimed that it gave at least a 10% uplift, although its dependant on silicon quality. It seems to undervolt the chip, and change a few other settings.
@gscurd7512 күн бұрын
The level on the Gigabyte boards is the negative offset x10. So a level 3 for example would be a -30 negative offset. You can get better fine tuning doing it manually, but its a good starting point. Most will handle 1 and 2 just fine. A lot will handle 3 not as many will be able to run at 4 and only a few golden samples will be able to still be stable with 5. Basically it moves the curve down by that many steps so you end up with less voltage needed for the same frequency.
@zblurth15 күн бұрын
the finger ON the screen hurt my very soul
@riufq16 күн бұрын
More video like this please.
@chadwolf384014 күн бұрын
Wow. That’s really freaking cool. Love stuff like this. Thanks.
@RANDOMNATION9078 күн бұрын
_Good Grief!_ . . 4:04 . . look at that GPU sag! . . _Dude_ wtf?! . . Cool feature. This is the first time I've heard of it. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
@Roboto42016 күн бұрын
PBO did wonders on my 7800X3D system. Using an MSI x670e motherboard.
@PedrosGameTime16 күн бұрын
I had this setting enabled (along with EXPO 2). I did notice that boot time suffered significantly from 15s to 45s. Is there a setting I'm missing to minimize boot time?
@pcworld16 күн бұрын
If it's an Asus board it might be training the cooler. -Adam
@capt_jtkirk703615 күн бұрын
@@PedrosGameTime this is due to EXPO 2 settings and your computer is training your RAM each time it restarts... If you are using Asus MB, go to DRAM timing control, select memory context restore, by doing this, you will avoid extended boot time every time your computer starts....
@Toldyaso12164 күн бұрын
Asrock has something like this. You may select temp targets of 65, 75, and 85c in addition each of those targets has a -20, -30, and a -40 offset that you may choose to use with that target. I have tried both the 75c -20 and 85c -20 on my 9800x3d and get a full 5.2 Ghz boost across all cores with 70c -20 running Cinebench R23 with the package watt draw living around 125 -130 watts
@thekristian994116 күн бұрын
Cannot watch, too much screen touching in this. :D
@Corvinade10 күн бұрын
Genuinely curious, why is that? Because of fingerprints? (Not judging)
@TogonzoMedia15 күн бұрын
Weird. So I have a B650e Elite X AX Ice and I don't have these PBO levels enabled, but i do have PBO set to "Manual" and have specific dialed in values for TDP, EDC, etc so that I don't hit 85c and have Curve Optimizer set for -20 all core undervolt. Got load line calibration set to Normal. I hit about 77.3 degrees in Cinebench and a score of 13,630. But would I benefit more by using these set PBO levels instead of my manually dialed in values?
@Eren-da-Jaeger12 күн бұрын
no. If you achieved numbers while remaing under the max temp that you were trying to lock your boost to, then you did well and whatever score you got comes down to rest of system config and particular chip.
@thesupremeginge16 күн бұрын
PBO= Peanut Butter Overload
@s.omarnoor138016 күн бұрын
Whats the video at 0:30
@Razzbow13 күн бұрын
Precision boost explained by Robert Hallock
@jouldalk11 күн бұрын
What if you set pbo manual to 90°? Better perfs than 70° or not?
@pedropierre959411 күн бұрын
Depends on CPU, you do not want your x3D to hit 90, AMD makes them so they stay away from that because of the extra large cache
@jouldalk11 күн бұрын
@pedropierre9594 how about a 9900x?
@VicharB15 күн бұрын
I have R7 7700/32GB CL30 with PBO tweaks (mainly +200, CO -30 preferred cores -40 the rest, Temp threshold 85C) with All-core @5.3Ghz (drawing ~125W) and Single-core 5.49Ghz and along with AIO LF III 420mm with curve settings, quite and cool during AAA 4K gaming.
@yellowbiker728614 күн бұрын
Thanks Adam. ❤ Ur videos ❤❤❤
@aflyingmodem16 күн бұрын
So the you got the same exact fps numbers in both games even though the bottleneck was different for each game??????????? and no one is questioning that?????????
@aflyingmodem16 күн бұрын
at different resolutions at that! lmao
@renereiche16 күн бұрын
He had a 4090 in that system while doing 1440p DLSS Quality, which is basically testing at 1080p. Even with RT Overdrive mode in Cyberpunk, that is not entirely GPU bound. That's why.
@pcworld15 күн бұрын
Looking I should have turned off DLSS, yes, good point. The RT presets default to it on so I wasn't thinking deep enough about it. -Adam
@aflyingmodem15 күн бұрын
@ no that is not why lmao he should not get the SAME EXACT FPS numbers in TWO DIFFERENT games, there's different engines, different settings, different resolutions, different scenarios. They shouldn't be getting the exact same fps numbers even if they were effectively both running at 1080p your reasoning is more than flawed it just doesn't make sense.
@aflyingmodem15 күн бұрын
@@pcworld it's not that big of deal, but you should at least rerun the tests and publish a correct even with dlss on you shouldn't have the SAME EXACT fps numbers in two different games.
@Gielderst12 күн бұрын
I've got a 7950X3D + ASRock X870E NOVA WiFi And i've only set PBO to Enabled in BIOS. And also Prefferd Dynamic Cores to Cache. I also want to get a Ryzen 9950X3D when it comes out, because i'd love to have the latest and greatest if i can afford it ofcourse. Hope it won't be too expensive 🤞🤓
@flat_stickproductions20912 күн бұрын
So we have all this, and Intel has TVB which just does this one it's own already with no settings required.
@ProbablekozzКүн бұрын
Is it just me, or were the fps scores the exact same for both games on all 3 runs.. that's really weird.
@bitaalfa780611 күн бұрын
Rest in paradise my condolences to your family much love
@rasporilac15 күн бұрын
Poor gpu, look at gpu sag 😢
@sons72615 күн бұрын
@AdamPMurray - Moores Law is Dead - AMD Zen 5 Strix Halo LP Leak, Hawk Point, PS6 Portable, Switch 2 | The Phawx | Broken Silicon 255... minute 46 the chart says top sku of strix halo = 4070
@MegaF1guy15 күн бұрын
PBO enabled gave me the best scores.
@K9PT13 күн бұрын
The guy you put on the video left AMD to Intel
@rickgrimes93115 күн бұрын
Can you do a video on your current test benches? Context helps with videos like this.
@pcworld14 күн бұрын
You can see more info at 5:48 in this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aojNm2qfmMaCicksi=2L_lA3ACdQ-5HPBr -Adam
@pcworld14 күн бұрын
Also added specs to the description which I had forgotten to do. -Adam
@JordanSpinks-e6f15 күн бұрын
I think its all getting bad at this point but the varder's being badass tho with alittle offset still.
@derodge12 күн бұрын
That's blowing my mind, you get more performance drawing less power???
@VnikXum15 күн бұрын
Does it work on my 5800x3d?
@Razzbow13 күн бұрын
Yes.
@BlackThunderRC14 күн бұрын
But it voids the warranty.
@OGSuperDirty13 күн бұрын
Unless it physically changes a fuse in the cpu, AMD has no way of knowing.
@BlackThunderRC13 күн бұрын
@@OGSuperDirty I worked for an RC company and we could to tell if too much volgate had been connected to a speed controller. As soon you you connected anything above a 3s pack to it would blow a transister to short. it wosuont stop the Speed controller from working at all. And outwardly youd never know. But it was easy to check and if it showed as a short in the test board then no waranty claim. I suspect that AMD are doing somthing but more advanced in the CPU. So youd get a short on one of the pins to ground when you enable PBO. So it would be a very easy check. Supprised no one has tested every pin before and after to see if thats the case.
@danehutchins384513 күн бұрын
Got some gpu sag in that open air test bench.
@sons72615 күн бұрын
@AdamPMurray - craft computing - Zotac *MAY* have leaked every Nvidia 5000-series GPU; Arrow Lake SKUs too! - Talking Heads Ep.363... new mobile part naming scheme is "horse*hit" chart minute 109
@cornpopwasabaddude627012 күн бұрын
Finger in the screen 🫨
@mukechiltmal11 күн бұрын
❤
@Pronoia-d7w15 күн бұрын
If you choose to have this always on it will slowly cook your cpu!
@profounddamas15 күн бұрын
Big deal, judging by the benchmarks.
@xu886113 күн бұрын
just set auto, no need pbo
@Kapono515016 күн бұрын
I swapped back to the 7700X, no more hitching and lagging in windows with an X3D chip.
@AngelicRequiemX15 күн бұрын
I have a 9800x3d and don't experience any of that.
@Kapono515015 күн бұрын
@ Hopefully it’s been fixed with the model you have!!!
@aflyingmodem13 күн бұрын
Did you have power monitoring in afterburner for your gpu??
@aflury16 күн бұрын
How is this possible? Where is the performance coming from? Is it undervolting? Is it magic?
@brugj0316 күн бұрын
It`s just the cpu staying cooler and clocking higher because of the increased headroom. No magic. Just some tinkering, it can be unstable though, so tune it right.
@aflury16 күн бұрын
@brugj03 that doesn't really explain how it improves performance per watt without any changes in IPC. The only explanation I can imagine is that it's using lower voltage at the risk of issues with silicon lottery losers. Where else could that "headroom" come from? Edit: maybe I'm answering my own question lulz
@killerful16 күн бұрын
It is undervolting.
@brugj0316 күн бұрын
@@aflury Tune it right is key, AMD cpu`s have much stable headroom at stock, you tap into that headroom and will find out where the borders lie. Some can be lucky, others less. My 9950X runs at CO minus 30 so i got lucky. Rock stable.
@BMAR9212 күн бұрын
Man, your hand is covering 99% of the screen. You know about the pbo, but you have no idea that you can use a mouse 🥵 This is unprofessional.
@Asian-bogan13 күн бұрын
I hate this blokes hand gestures, it's over done, unnatural and in your face. Bring back Gordon he had a more natural gesture and personality, r.i.p. mate😢
@divought15 күн бұрын
What is the title of this video? Thank's to you enabling autotranslation by youtube, i can't see it. I only guess, it has to be a misstranslation. Don't ever use this shitty feature. If i can listen to your english i can read it to. Since it's not possible for users to turn this feature off, i auto disslike every video and ban the channel that uses this.