An Overview of the Subjunctive

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@joelkelly4154
@joelkelly4154 4 жыл бұрын
The "coulda, shoulda, woulda" mood.
@darielwalker1058
@darielwalker1058 3 жыл бұрын
I know im randomly asking but does someone know a way to get back into an instagram account? I was dumb forgot the login password. I would love any tips you can offer me.
@raenabrendtro6904
@raenabrendtro6904 4 жыл бұрын
Athena's gift to latin homework during quarantine
@commentfreely5443
@commentfreely5443 4 жыл бұрын
man goes into notre dame and stabs 3 people shouting 'allahu akbar' police grab bullhorn 'where's your mask?'
@christianramirez8710
@christianramirez8710 4 жыл бұрын
@@commentfreely5443 wtf
@koktangri
@koktangri 3 жыл бұрын
@@commentfreely5443 bruh, racist
@ewharvey44
@ewharvey44 12 жыл бұрын
I am *impressed* ---These tutorials are very well done! From one Latin teacher to another. :)
@M.S.Makin-qo1dk
@M.S.Makin-qo1dk 7 жыл бұрын
I've been learning Arabic and I have had absolutely no idea What these three moods are. Your lesson helped my understanding a Lot. Thanks.
@Alexandra-ku7sd
@Alexandra-ku7sd 8 жыл бұрын
I love your voice, its so pleasant to hear.
@JMaSsA11
@JMaSsA11 12 жыл бұрын
PASSED LATIN THIS YEAR! Thanks for all these videos!
@juanguentenguea.gonzalez737
@juanguentenguea.gonzalez737 10 ай бұрын
You are a latin master. Good Job.
@lee-ll8tp
@lee-ll8tp 4 жыл бұрын
I almost gave up when I met subjunctive. Your explanation is so clear and useful! Thank you so much :D
@marcmorgan8606
@marcmorgan8606 5 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I speak Welsh fluently as a second language, and this video has clarified many things for me in Latin (which I'm tentatively beginning to understand in a fairly decent way) as well as in literary Welsh (which is somewhat different to the colloquial).
@margaretevey1825
@margaretevey1825 3 жыл бұрын
While in class I heard that the subjunctive mood exists, but knew no more of it other than "it's to explain abstract and hypothetical situations." This video introduced the mood perfectly.
@latintutorial
@latintutorial 12 жыл бұрын
Thanks. It's been a good 15 years for me since I last had any formal instruction in French
@lockesnode1477
@lockesnode1477 7 жыл бұрын
Subjunctive is evil.
@commentfreely5443
@commentfreely5443 4 жыл бұрын
indicative/subjunctive active/passive etc so much
@juanguentenguea.gonzalez737
@juanguentenguea.gonzalez737 10 ай бұрын
Yep subjunctive is an evil liar.
@latintutorial
@latintutorial 9 жыл бұрын
+Madeline Corrales Yes, the jussive subjunctive (a main clause verb in the present subjunctive) is what you're thinking of, a mild or suggestive command translated in English with "let". Catullus 5: vivamus atque amemus, "let us live and let us love". But this can be used with other subjects, too: vivam, "let me live".
@roben2791
@roben2791 9 жыл бұрын
you did frensh . I speak frensh too. any way . it explains why old frensh (the one uses in 1700) used archaicly subjunctive in the condition . it's still rarely used specially in the 3rd person like s'il eût fait....
@latintutorial
@latintutorial 12 жыл бұрын
Gratias maximas!
@MissToxix
@MissToxix 11 жыл бұрын
This is brilliant.I have been getting the highest marks in Latin up until I cam across the Subjunctive. Thank you for helping me on my road to success. This video was awesome!
@latintutorial
@latintutorial 12 жыл бұрын
Calm down, buddy. The infinitive and participle aren't technically moods, which only exist for finite (i.e., conjugated) verb forms. Indo-European originally had four moods, the three listed here and the optative, which got absorbed into the subjunctive in Latin. While it's easy to term "infinitive" and "participle" as moods when you're learning about them, it is technically wrong and the reality behind these forms is much less concrete.
@ryanisber2353
@ryanisber2353 4 жыл бұрын
Calm down buddy
@felixstimets1339
@felixstimets1339 4 жыл бұрын
@@ryanisber2353 Calm down, buddy
@CFHistory
@CFHistory 11 жыл бұрын
Thank you. These tutorials will certainly make my latin studies much easier.
@infinitesimotel
@infinitesimotel 5 жыл бұрын
Very much like the clarity in your thinking.
@latintutorial
@latintutorial 12 жыл бұрын
The negative jussive is conveyed with nē plus the subjunctive. So "let's not eat" is "nē edamus."
@Rads-Angel
@Rads-Angel Жыл бұрын
We watched this video in Latin class, and the whole class burst out laughing during the “Yo’ mamma” example lol-
@peachypansy807
@peachypansy807 4 жыл бұрын
thank you subjunctive for making me cry
@NoahNobody
@NoahNobody 10 жыл бұрын
Really nice explanation. I have to learn Spanish and came across the imperative, indicative, and subjunctive grammar things. Anyway, you have a really good talent for teaching. Thanks.
@latintutorial
@latintutorial 11 жыл бұрын
Yes and yes. (they do stand alone, and edamus is all you need for all of those)
@blackhornet111
@blackhornet111 11 жыл бұрын
4:41 OOOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!
@RedOctober_
@RedOctober_ 3 жыл бұрын
roasted
@topazbutterfly1853
@topazbutterfly1853 Жыл бұрын
We do have the subjunctive in Romanian too, but we also have a conditional-optative mood as well. Usually the Latin present and perfect subjunctives corespond to the present and perfect subjunctive in Romanian. The imperfect and plusperfect subjunctive matches the Romanian present and perfect conditional-optative. We use the subjunctive to express hortation as well, as in "Hai să mergem la cinema!" (Let's go to the cinema!). But it has also extended to replace the Latin infinitive in most cases, but not all. "Pot să înot." (I can swim.), but you can also say "Pot înota." The conditional would be "Aș merge la cinema." (I would go to the cinema.) and "Aș fi mers la cinema." (I would have gone to the cinema.). Interesting to see how the grammar of my own language still haunts me in another language.
@Mendaz
@Mendaz 6 жыл бұрын
French is one of the romance languages that seems to use the subjunctive the least, so it's actually probably the easiest but one that doesn't as make as much sense then. Like, in all the romance languages, if you say "I hope that you get better," all of them that I have learned would use subjunctive except for French. Out of all the romance languages I've learned, it probably makes the most sense in Spanish, even more so than in Latin.
@chamorvenigo
@chamorvenigo 10 ай бұрын
No one knew what it was? I think I have a pretty good conceptual grasp on it. I wrote something good on this subject yesterday. I hope you'all don't mind that I copy and paste what I had previously written on this subject. The whole thing started by me having to explain deponent and gerund: To understand Latin gerundo (ought to carry out), you need to also understand the Legal concept of deponent (ought to give/do, or what was promised). At this point, we might as well strengthen our understanding of Roman indicative mood. Now, most people might mistake the Romans for being the creative type, no different than their Greek counterparts, judging from our method of teaching the Latin language. Yet, historically, Romans are the boring logical type who excelled in doing things in columns or building columns. So, it is possible to imagine them preferring a cut-and-dried method of expressing themselves in Latin. For example, if we were to imagine that the Romans were supposed to use Latin in the same manner as how they should write their contracts, some Latin aspects are easier to understand, like: i. Why is there a lack of personal pronouns, with a readily available set of reflective pronouns? Ans.: We don't use personal pronouns in contracts. ii. Why is there a lack of aorist tense, compared to the Greeks? Ans.: Contract only talks about relevant stuff. iii. Why is there a BAM tense in Latin? Ans.: Roman engineers demanded a simple way to state when a project had started, started, or will started. iv. How to use subjunctive? Ans: According to Deconstruction theory, meaning can be obtained within the literature system itself. This means we are dealing with less-than-zero meanings (e.g., good cannot exist without bad). If we strengthen our understanding of one side, the other side is also strengthened. In summary, if we were to take all that is allowed in a legal contract to be Indicative, then the rest is subjunctive. So, now we can see why future tense "will verb" is indicative, the "conditional verb" is indicative, and the "comparative less-than-vivid verb" can be indicative. The next part is something that I paraphrase from my prior reading of D.J. Taylor's translation of Marcus Terentius Varro's fragmented writings: Deed are done three times. Once in the mind (including meetings and discussions), once in the words (giving your word is the same as signing a contract with your words on it), and once one last time, in the verifiable. For this reason, the word dō means "I give" which have the same sense as "I have given" or "I promised to give". The person who promised became a deponent (the promiser). Deponent nouns are those that had promised to give. If what was promised is an object, then it is a danum (gift) or damnum (legal gift). Else it is a gerund. The gerund name in Latin originated from gerō (I carry out … what I had promised to do) and the Roman ablative noun gerundō means "ought to be carried out".
@ThomWillis
@ThomWillis 2 жыл бұрын
as a Latin teacher this is ... very helpful
@Croopskate
@Croopskate 5 жыл бұрын
Not related to the subjunctive, but can 'I went to the store to buy cheese' also take on a Supine form, as in 'Ii tabernam caseum emptum'?
@editzone6003
@editzone6003 9 жыл бұрын
Hi there! Thank you for posting up your videos, I really appreciated them, for they have helped me understand better in my latin class. Yet, I do have one question, and this is because I am also taking spanish too. (Please.. I know its crazy... hahahaha ... latin 3 and spanish 4...that explains my inquisitive thoughts...) Last year, in spanish I learned that there were "nosotros commands" (I know it is spanglish, but please bear with me) or the "we commands". Those commands are usually translated as ... for example "let's eat." Do you know if there are any "we commands" in Latin in general or is it going to be presented in the sense that the speaker going to suggest that a person or group of people should join him, like using your "let's eat" example but using the subjunctive?
@ariefbudiman9610
@ariefbudiman9610 8 жыл бұрын
very interesting, while greek retain optative. the latin put it under subjunctive! thx you for so clear explanation
@legaleagle46
@legaleagle46 7 жыл бұрын
Latin once had a separate optative mood, but as you noted, it merged the optative with the subjunctive some time before the Classical period began. Greek did the same thing, incidentally. Modern Greek, like Latin, only has the Indicative, the Imperative and the Subjunctive.
@WillelmusAestus
@WillelmusAestus 4 жыл бұрын
To me, learning the Subjunctive in French was ten times easier than I had expected. In Latin, though, it's hell. I have no idea when to actually use it.
@CoDRagna
@CoDRagna 12 жыл бұрын
then how would you say, about to call in latin. that's a partciple ( future active participle FAP. and it translates to vocaturus,a,um
@dankindonuts8285
@dankindonuts8285 7 жыл бұрын
An excellent video. Thank you very much!
@ultimatebros923
@ultimatebros923 4 жыл бұрын
5:35 I have to use that sometime!
@latintutorial
@latintutorial 12 жыл бұрын
Right, which is really an adjective, not a verb. Likewise infinitives are effectively nouns, since they serve as objects and subjects of verbs.
@gah-kaileung7075
@gah-kaileung7075 6 жыл бұрын
I like to think of the subjunctive as sub + iunctum => an /underlying connection/ between two verbs, the relationship and dependence of meaning between two verbs.
@latintutorial
@latintutorial 6 жыл бұрын
That works for a lot of it, but there are sentences that have only one verb, and it’s in the subjunctive mood (deliberative, operative, jussive).
@mvdmusicvideostorefreshthe3224
@mvdmusicvideostorefreshthe3224 3 жыл бұрын
Quite a lot of additional stuff there, but very informative, thank you, I think my brain is fried now.
@machspeed3333
@machspeed3333 Жыл бұрын
This is better than all my Latin teachers combined, though thats only 2 so far but still impressive I guess lmao
@iambad8025
@iambad8025 3 жыл бұрын
If I wanted to say I want to visit in Latin how would I say it? Would visit be in the subjunctive mood?
@latintutorial
@latintutorial 3 жыл бұрын
I want to visit would use an infinitive: volō visitāre
@PICTVS
@PICTVS Жыл бұрын
Is there any difference in expressing purpose using the subjunctive and using the supine?
@jacquelinelanda1084
@jacquelinelanda1084 8 жыл бұрын
I would like to learn latin. I'm a little confused as to where I should start in your playlist.
@lockesnode1477
@lockesnode1477 7 жыл бұрын
Stay well away from the subjunctives. They are fairly high level.
@felipearaujo3937
@felipearaujo3937 4 жыл бұрын
Gratias Tibi, amice. Saepe olim videbo hinc videum credo, quia valde utilis est linguae latinae discentibus.
@jenniemartellotta5977
@jenniemartellotta5977 9 жыл бұрын
then what is a temporal clause?
@hudsonphillips76
@hudsonphillips76 10 жыл бұрын
thank you so much for these videos, so helpful.
@mirelurkhunter5109
@mirelurkhunter5109 3 жыл бұрын
If I had been a sophomore in that French class, I would have been scared too!
@crimsoncrimsoned609
@crimsoncrimsoned609 2 жыл бұрын
What about in the sentence "I liked it when he made that shot"? Because it isn't a possibility that he made the shot but it is still a sentence subject to a seperate verb. What is this variant of it called or is it not subjunctive?
@colinmagnier1232
@colinmagnier1232 4 жыл бұрын
Quick question. Can "uncertain truths" be classified as something like a doubt in the indicative mood. Does doubt in the indicative make it subjunctive?
@1964TP
@1964TP 7 жыл бұрын
This is SO helpful.
@Inubris
@Inubris 11 жыл бұрын
so subjunctives are like the maybe case.
@user-ky5ev6sk1q
@user-ky5ev6sk1q 2 жыл бұрын
bro that yo mama joke caught me so off guard lmaoooo
@Jamiewinters8
@Jamiewinters8 11 жыл бұрын
Can the main clause uses stand alone?, i.e. are "let's eat", "we should eat", & "we could eat" all translated as "edamus"?, or do you need more words?
@32OJMAYO
@32OJMAYO 9 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@QubitPi
@QubitPi Ай бұрын
That sounds like this: Is this imperative or infinitive? No. Then its subjunctive, no dispute
@MrMeBeDaniel
@MrMeBeDaniel 12 жыл бұрын
your voice is really cool
@jakequaza3567
@jakequaza3567 6 жыл бұрын
After watching this video i have a question: why do cum clauses use subjunctive because the actions in cum clauses did actually happen for example in the sentence ‘cum nullam pecuniam haberemus, miserrimi eramus’ meaning ‘since we had no money, we were very miserable’ the fact that they had no money is a real fact, not hypothetical, so why is subjunctive used here? This also raises the question why does cum use subjunctive while ubi uses indicative?
@SamoriahGames
@SamoriahGames 12 жыл бұрын
This has to be one of your funniest videos.
@evanwhite5704
@evanwhite5704 7 жыл бұрын
Wow this is very helpful
@tibiademon9157
@tibiademon9157 9 жыл бұрын
I don't understand how the subjunctive would fit into the example of "I went to the store to buy cheese." Wouldn't you just use the infinitive form there? ( Tabernam fui ut caseus *emere* ) ?
@latintutorial
@latintutorial 9 жыл бұрын
Fabrizio Illuminati Think about what the "to buy" means. It shows purpose, and the infinitive in classical Latin can't be used to express purpose. There's an inherent difference between "I want to buy cheese" and "I went there to buy cheese".
@legaleagle46
@legaleagle46 7 жыл бұрын
You could, but Latin preferred the use of purpose clauses using ut + subjunctive.
@legaleagle46
@legaleagle46 4 жыл бұрын
@LegoGuy87 And Romanian still does ("Am mers la mercatul să cumpăr brânzâtură.") The other Romance languages replaced the use of the subjunctive with the infinitive: "Fui a la tienda para comprar queso." (Spanish) "Je suis allè au marchè pour acheter du fromage." (French) "Fui ao mercado para comprar queijo." (Portuguese) "Sono andato al mercato per comprare formaggio." (Italian).
@tibiademon9157
@tibiademon9157 3 жыл бұрын
@@latintutorial It's been six years, but now I properly understand how this sentence translates. The thing is that the "ut" doesn't really translate as "to" but as "that". The proper translation would be "I went to the store *so that I may buy cheese* ", and thus we can make sense of "Tabernam fuī ut cāseum emerem".
@Audiobooks4Artists
@Audiobooks4Artists 8 жыл бұрын
Is it fair to say that would is a good replacement for the subjunctive? Does this mean Latin doesn't have modals? Can would might may should are all just one form....being the subjunctive....?
@Audiobooks4Artists
@Audiobooks4Artists 8 жыл бұрын
How is it different than a conditional?
@todh2oyu308
@todh2oyu308 8 жыл бұрын
The conditional is an other mood, spanish has both subjunctive and conditional, so "would" does not replace it. Strictly speaking the conditional is the past of the future, I know it sounds weird but it is true. I could give you examples if you want me to.
@kathrynveseth6346
@kathrynveseth6346 9 жыл бұрын
VERY well done! Thank you!
@TheDagen8
@TheDagen8 10 жыл бұрын
Thank you you helped so much
@erics7992
@erics7992 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree. The French subjunctive isn't any harder than the Latin and probably easier because the imperfect subjunctive never really gets used. But the thing is, like you said, you're usually a sophomore in high school learning your first foreign language with no real clue how grammar works when you learn the French subjunctive so it feels extremely intimidating. Kind of like participles: I learned Greek before Latin and the Greek participle is a nightmare that took me months to even be able to begin to grasp. But after doing all that it took me only a short time to pick up the Latin participle.
@williamscott1402
@williamscott1402 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent
@christophernuzzi2780
@christophernuzzi2780 2 жыл бұрын
The dirty secret of the Latin subjunctive is that in all but the independent subjunctive, it is translated as indicative. All you have to worry about is the tense.
@TheEnglishQuail
@TheEnglishQuail 12 жыл бұрын
:D another video. I wish my school had Latin
@xunting1
@xunting1 10 жыл бұрын
love ur videos
@linger2001
@linger2001 11 жыл бұрын
very good! Thank You!
@marymandering
@marymandering 5 жыл бұрын
thank you my latin teacher hates teaching so my entire class is scrambling for resources before our midterm please let me know if you would like to become a latin professor at the jesuit university of new york, fordham university rose hill
@MCernoble
@MCernoble 5 жыл бұрын
So did you get cheese in the end or nah?
@latintutorial
@latintutorial 5 жыл бұрын
Most definitely.
@thymeh7761
@thymeh7761 5 жыл бұрын
I'm still confused.
@latintutorial
@latintutorial 11 жыл бұрын
More or less.
@nicksgarage8295
@nicksgarage8295 6 жыл бұрын
THIS CHANNEL GIVES ME PTSD. STOP
@FernandoVinny
@FernandoVinny 6 жыл бұрын
As a brazilian portuguese native speaker, for me the subjunctive isn't hard
@khantsal2305
@khantsal2305 Ай бұрын
@FernandoVinny Explain me, why.
@Nikhil-P-R
@Nikhil-P-R 3 жыл бұрын
"GIMME". Um... Am I in the right class?
@zer-atop3032
@zer-atop3032 3 жыл бұрын
It means give me and it's imperative, so yeah
@uniworkhorse
@uniworkhorse 7 жыл бұрын
Arigato amigo
@RDR7891
@RDR7891 5 жыл бұрын
you say the yo mama joke so seriously
@matthewjeffersonportorange7885
@matthewjeffersonportorange7885 4 жыл бұрын
What subjunctive is, isn't scary. Converting into subjunctive is the horrifying part.
@mahisarpal4328
@mahisarpal4328 3 жыл бұрын
thanks a lot really hellps
@lucyjones6330
@lucyjones6330 6 жыл бұрын
I was quaking in my boots when he made a yo mamma joke. Lmao I’m dead. I’m just trying to study for a quiz
@randomspartanhoe4501
@randomspartanhoe4501 3 жыл бұрын
4:43 Bruh moment.
@muonneutrino_
@muonneutrino_ 7 ай бұрын
How did you manage to say what you said at 4:50 with a straight face lmaoooooo
@morilea
@morilea 7 жыл бұрын
je comprends pas la jou
@entertainmentdose170
@entertainmentdose170 10 ай бұрын
How is no one talking about the “yo mamma so fat when she went to Rome there was 8 hills 😭😭💀💀
@latintutorial
@latintutorial 10 ай бұрын
🤷
@CoDRagna
@CoDRagna 12 жыл бұрын
see you cant even translate it, thats why we use participles
@abispanner3957
@abispanner3957 5 жыл бұрын
GIMME!!!!
@CoDRagna
@CoDRagna 12 жыл бұрын
3 MOODS ONLY? ABSOLUTLEY NOT! HOW COULD YOU MISS THE OTHER 2 MOST ESSENTIAL, INFINITIVE MOOD AND PATRICIPLE MOOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@novvain495
@novvain495 4 жыл бұрын
Infinitives and participles are non-finite forms,not moods.
@jackquincy6351
@jackquincy6351 6 жыл бұрын
man...
@Dawn_Of_Justice
@Dawn_Of_Justice Жыл бұрын
*
@tigress0076
@tigress0076 3 жыл бұрын
Life lesson at 2:40 😂
@electronicwoe
@electronicwoe 12 жыл бұрын
Grammar is quite a journey. Haha.
@DaGeMie
@DaGeMie 7 жыл бұрын
sad ;)
@Quelquefois1793
@Quelquefois1793 11 жыл бұрын
Gimme! lol
@ReclaimerStudios
@ReclaimerStudios Жыл бұрын
4:41 lol
@tigress0076
@tigress0076 3 жыл бұрын
2:58 never hit so hard as rn🤣
@magisterparsons
@magisterparsons 12 жыл бұрын
Faberrime fecisti!
@amaliavogt910
@amaliavogt910 8 жыл бұрын
I got when i was 12 in Latin class...
@ironerrow618
@ironerrow618 4 жыл бұрын
I was forced to watch this
@latintutorial
@latintutorial 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sorry!
@ironerrow618
@ironerrow618 4 жыл бұрын
Haha no problem my guy
@thezombiedude100
@thezombiedude100 11 жыл бұрын
I hate grammar in this language!!!!
@chamorvenigo
@chamorvenigo 10 ай бұрын
The deficiency is in the way they explain the grammar rules. In reality, being good in English gives us all an major head start in learning Latin. In English, we were told that the rules doesn't matter that much "at least I was told", and we would then learn English grammar day in day out, without much conflict in the learning materials. Once we had progress enough, we subconsciously know which form sounds right, which we can exert our creative license upon. With Latin: 1. Memorize the noun declension table. Don't ask why. Also, they didn't bother to make it memorable to be memorized. Just random word endings. 2. Next, the "five" Latin cases. The Linguist's definitions is really devoid of meaning (trying to define too many things, it ended up right, but a beginner would ended up more confused. I ended up doing my own archeology study into Proto Germanic and PIE in order to get some satisfactory answer, like 1. What does the dative case really mean and why does the modern Greek only have four cases? 2. What's a dative-ablative case and when do we use it? 3. How does the plural side of system came from? It is a long story, however, at some point in history, the case system was revamp (rather than a ad hoc copying with +i +is for genitive, +e for vocative; so that the masculine, the feminine, and neutral are designed to be orthogonally symmetrical , together with their plurals; in order to generate better declensions variety. 3. Horrible names for the grammar terms. By right, the names of grammatical concept should partially informed 5 year old kids on what the concept is really about. Also, if a grammar term is made out of two words, do what the Romans did where they make one word the giving word and the other word the solving word. The giving word is in it tertiary case and provides the initial meaning while the solving word provides the rest of the information to complete the phrase, thus solving the meaning. I think they called it a giver & its solver in Latin but we call it by some meaningless term. Worst, the the equivalent grammar term is simply "a predicate".
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