Ancient Greek is easy... GOTCHA!

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Ancient Greek is easy to learn for eveyone... GOTCHA! Let's explore all the fun stuff that makes Greek such a pain to study.
This video has been made in loving imitation of the Mulan Gotcha video by Vito: • Mulan is incredible......
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0:00 Intro
1:25 Best Alphabet
1:52 papera
2:54 Unambiguous Clarity
3:56 Greek is good for your health
5:30 Read the New Testament in the original
6:07 The Homeric Epics
8:02 It's pretty easy
9:02 How to actually learn Greek
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@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Ancient Greek is easy to learn for eveyone... GOTCHA! Let's explore all the fun stuff that makes Greek such a pain to study. This video has been made in loving imitation of the Mulan Gotcha video by Vito: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJfcmKaPls-AjNE 🦂 Support my work on Patreon: www.patreon.com/LukeRanieri 📚 Luke Ranieri Audiobooks: luke-ranieri.myshopify.com ☕ Support my work with PayPal: paypal.me/lukeranieri And if you like, do consider joining this channel: kzbin.info/door/Lbiwlm3poGNh5XSVlXBkGAjoin 🏛 Ancient Greek in Action · Free Greek Lessons: kzbin.info/aero/PLU1WuLg45SixsonRdfNNv-CPNq8xUwgam 👨‍🏫 My Lingua Latina Per Se Illustrata playlist · Free Latin Lessons: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGjLlWpvbq6tpLc 🦂 ScorpioMartianus (my channel *entirely* in Latin & Ancient Greek) kzbin.info 🎙 Hundreds of hours of Latin & Greek audio: lukeranieri.com/audio 🌍 polýMATHY website: lukeranieri.com/polymathy/ 🌅 polýMATHY on Instagram: instagram.com/lukeranieri/ 🦁 Legio XIII Latin Language Podcast: kzbin.info 👕 Merch: teespring.com/stores/scorpiomartianus 🦂 www.ScorpioMartianus.com 🦅 www.LukeRanieri.com ☕ Supported in part by LanguageMugs.com : languagemugs.com/shop/?wpam_id=11 📖 My book Ranieri Reverse Recall on Amazon: amzn.to/2nVUfqd 0:00 Intro 1:25 Best Alphabet 1:52 papera 2:54 Unambiguous Clarity 3:56 Greek is good for your health 5:30 Read the New Testament in the original 6:07 The Homeric Epics 8:02 It's pretty easy 9:02 How to *actually* learn Greek
@lamberekmate1539
@lamberekmate1539 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video Luke! Please do more of these haha, maybe for russian?
@michelemaggioni3751
@michelemaggioni3751 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Luke! As an Italian who did poorly in Ancient Greek but still loves the language I cheer your incredible work and divulgations! I have a suggestion for a video, have you ever thought of analyzing the Greek shanties from AC Odyssey? They are super catchy and some are even arrangements of Archilochus and Homer. Keep up the good work!
@BeastShadyGG
@BeastShadyGG 2 жыл бұрын
I'm actually from Greece and we started learning ancient Greek like two years ago and it isn't that bad not gonna lie since the "new version of Greek" is almost the same. Please kill me.
@okkkkkk565
@okkkkkk565 2 жыл бұрын
am from greece ......and i have to say that you right and wrong the same time ..........beacose france ,english italian ,spanish and more are baced on ancien greek ...(and sorry for my english speling ...i am not good at english😇😅🤣
@jeton9153
@jeton9153 2 жыл бұрын
Im Greek myself i left college recently and I can say its harder than mandarin and Arabic for me, ancient Greek was and still is a struggle for modern Helenics
@eklipon1678
@eklipon1678 3 жыл бұрын
Homeric Greek was actually Ancient Greek for Ancient Greeks!
@prezentoappr1171
@prezentoappr1171 2 жыл бұрын
u have ask agamemnon?
@511tt
@511tt 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@angy1006
@angy1006 2 жыл бұрын
@@prezentoappr1171 it is easy to know that when you're Greek mate 😉🇬🇷 your comment is....how can i put this politely... dam !
@gm6719
@gm6719 2 жыл бұрын
Homeric Greek was Greek for Greeks living in Homeric period same as Classical Greek, Hellenistic period Greek also early and late Byzantine and then modern Greek. A language is a living organism that changes and transforms during the centuries, going through multiple social and cultural brewing, affected by historical circumstances and influenced by other ethnic groups. Treating or referring to Greek language as if it’s a separate dead language ancient and modern creates a confusion and a point of understanding purely based on ignorance.
@shareeve7597
@shareeve7597 2 жыл бұрын
What is Koiné Greek?
@inggironingboardp1429
@inggironingboardp1429 2 жыл бұрын
Lol, Ancient Greek is a Nightmare to learn, even when you're Greek.
@gimgame1397
@gimgame1397 2 жыл бұрын
It is just useless. I am greek had to take lessons for 4 years just so i would forget them a year later this about middle and 1year of highschool
@georgegkoumas5026
@georgegkoumas5026 2 жыл бұрын
@@gimgame1397 Well, that's just our education system that both tries to make us love them (emphasis on "tries") and sucks because half of what we learn will neither prove that we are smart nor that it will help us later.
@inggironingboardp1429
@inggironingboardp1429 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgegkoumas5026 True, it focuses on the grammar, the worst part of learning a language, and reading. But when we're asked to talk in Ancient Greek by people from other countries we don't know what to say except maybe a quote or two.
@akariito4579
@akariito4579 2 жыл бұрын
if you are greek you dont have to learn it, you allready speak it no matter if you know that you speak it or not.
@knikos0073
@knikos0073 2 жыл бұрын
@@akariito4579 well we don't speak ANCIENT Greek and we have to learn it at school for some reason
@ravenlord4
@ravenlord4 3 жыл бұрын
Now I understand the saying "It's all Greek to me".
@afonsomorais288
@afonsomorais288 3 жыл бұрын
In Portugal we say "It's all Chinese" 😅
@johnnyplatis
@johnnyplatis 2 жыл бұрын
@@afonsomorais288 we say the same in Greece...-:)
@user-so8kx7uj2x
@user-so8kx7uj2x 2 жыл бұрын
@@afonsomorais288 also in Greece! But I admit that Greek language is not easy
@k.umquat8604
@k.umquat8604 2 жыл бұрын
In Turkey we say "Are you speaking in Arabic?"
@senbeiboi4511
@senbeiboi4511 2 жыл бұрын
@@afonsomorais288 weirdly enough in Brazil we say greek in the "I don't understand" saying, like "are you speaking greek?" or "i don't speak greek"(not gonna put an exemple in portuguese cus you guys probably hate the way we conjugate verbs)
@Autom4tic
@Autom4tic 2 жыл бұрын
Ancient Greek: "We have 27 articles" Russian: "Never heard of her."
@rainbowgirl_k
@rainbowgirl_k 2 жыл бұрын
Ahahahahahahha
@ntonisa6636
@ntonisa6636 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know any Russian so I'd love if someone explained that joke to me.
@mllesamedi84
@mllesamedi84 2 жыл бұрын
@@ntonisa6636 I am trying to learn Russian for ages now and I don't understand it either.
@polina1735
@polina1735 2 жыл бұрын
@@ntonisa6636 there are no articles in Russian :) that’s why it’s super hard for Russians to understand why the heck should we use it at all in English, German, etc.
@jeton9153
@jeton9153 2 жыл бұрын
@@polina1735 exactly
@capitankarl7100
@capitankarl7100 2 жыл бұрын
As someone who actually studies Ancient Greek at school, this is REALLY accurate.
@sahq5996
@sahq5996 2 жыл бұрын
@Nubiamancy dont say that out loud. you might actually believe it yourself lmao
@somekindofdude1130
@somekindofdude1130 2 жыл бұрын
@Nubiamancy ????? Pseudo-historian 😂
@tonivoul1971
@tonivoul1971 2 жыл бұрын
They are easy I can learn how to translate half a page of acient greek I am greek i speak excellent English and acient greek for the modern greek is like a puzzle The words are the same but a little big changed
@sahq5996
@sahq5996 2 жыл бұрын
@Nubiamancy you are the blind nationalist here claiming ancient greek comes from some egypt one lmao. but as I said, dont wanna ruin your dream you live in.
@cormarine9812
@cormarine9812 2 жыл бұрын
@Nubiamancy The Poles said that they were the descendants of the Sarmatians and the Lithuanians said that their language was descended from Latin. Claiming that one's culture and language comes from other civilizations for street cred is a common practice and does not equate to actual historical fact. Ancient Greek is demonstrably Indo-European and that should be clear from even the most cursory of readings. However, it is true that Ancient Greek did contain a number of loanwords from Ancient Egyptian, such as "ξίφος", from Ancient Egyptian "zi:fat", related to Arabic "sayf" and ancestral to Coptic "sēfe".
@empousa8680
@empousa8680 2 жыл бұрын
Can confirm that even for Greek people studying ancient greek, we feel your pain even if we can understand it
@alexfreddy5804
@alexfreddy5804 2 жыл бұрын
Well not for me it's easy
@empousa8680
@empousa8680 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexfreddy5804 I'm studying it for (including high school) 5 years in depth, still hurts my brain so good work
@thegreekhistoryanimator4769
@thegreekhistoryanimator4769 2 жыл бұрын
Especially for adolescents, who are forced to learn the language at school...
@thegreekhistoryanimator4769
@thegreekhistoryanimator4769 2 жыл бұрын
@@alexfreddy5804 SAY THAT AGAIN
@johnkkin9230
@johnkkin9230 2 жыл бұрын
Ancient Greek is easy for Greeks if you are interested in it. If you know the grammar and syntax rules you can't be wrong when analysing an ancient Greek text.
@thkarape
@thkarape 3 жыл бұрын
Nouns: Pretty easy Adjectives: Even easier Articles: For the most part the same as modern Greek with a few additions Smooth Breathing: I don't know why it's there but I can live with it Verbs: I'M SORRY ANCIENT GREEK LANGUAGE I AM NOT CALLING YOU EASY EVER AGAIN PLEASE GOD HELP ME TAKE THESE EVIL SPAWNS OF SATAN OUT OF HERE! Sorry about that. High school flashbacks of me trying to memorize some of the more obscure forms of λύω.
@servantofaeie1569
@servantofaeie1569 3 жыл бұрын
your pfp makes me laff so hard
@georgegkoumas5026
@georgegkoumas5026 2 жыл бұрын
The fact that I hate learning languages, vocabulary, literature and writing essays but always loved ancient Greek grammar, and once even wrote all by myself just for fun an excel document with all the possible forms of "ἄγω" just makes me consider more about myself... I'm not even in humanity studies, I'm in love with mathematics and physics...
@historymeup6304
@historymeup6304 2 жыл бұрын
Me on the verge of transfering to thetiki while learning the -μι verbs.
@charalampospapaioannou2371
@charalampospapaioannou2371 2 жыл бұрын
Don't forget the 50+ subvariants of verb clauses that can literally depend on a single letter
@christi3
@christi3 2 жыл бұрын
λυω ελυον λυσω ελυσα λελυκα ελελυκειν λυομαι ελυομην λυσομαι ελυσαμην λελυμαι ελελυμην
@nokiaarabicringtone1418
@nokiaarabicringtone1418 3 жыл бұрын
"What's a clitic?" "Don't say vulgar things at me" fucking genius
@la-civetta
@la-civetta 3 жыл бұрын
enclitic, that is.
@bakatoroi
@bakatoroi 3 жыл бұрын
@@la-civetta Enclitics are a specific kind of clitic: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clitic
@altralinguamusica
@altralinguamusica 3 жыл бұрын
This is one of my jokes I use with my students every time I first mention them haha
@suntzu2812
@suntzu2812 2 жыл бұрын
@@altralinguamusica Did any of your students point out that sayin "Vulgar language" instead of "slang or crass words" is racist? I am the opposite of an SJW but it really is racist. Imagine saying "Dont use Finnish language" instead of "stop swearing"... oh wait, you do say that, you say "pardon my French"... anyway nevermind.
@Glassandcandy
@Glassandcandy 2 жыл бұрын
Probably the second best linguistic joke I’ve heard. The first being my linguistics teacher calling “the great vowel shift” as “the great vowel movement”. That shit still puts me in stitches lol
@JohnFallot
@JohnFallot 3 жыл бұрын
Ουδέν κακόν αμιγές καλού.
@landofw56
@landofw56 3 жыл бұрын
Verum est.
@themis467
@themis467 2 жыл бұрын
"there is no bad with no good"
@landofw56
@landofw56 2 жыл бұрын
@@themis467 Αχιλλεύς και Θερσίτης
@themis467
@themis467 2 жыл бұрын
@@landofw56 those are names
@landofw56
@landofw56 2 жыл бұрын
@@themis467 Nomina sunt omina, Themis
@pterispertinax2868
@pterispertinax2868 3 жыл бұрын
Pro tip: the best way to learn the Greek alphabet is to study theoretical quantum physics. After that, it will feel both natural and easy.
@tonivoul1971
@tonivoul1971 2 жыл бұрын
As a 15 year old speaker you just need to study alot if you want to make some words in acient greek
@22Tie22
@22Tie22 2 жыл бұрын
I did and you're right!
@giga.s.o.p
@giga.s.o.p 2 жыл бұрын
math also helps, I started noticing I could read greek (alphabet) texts after I got my degree
@carl8703
@carl8703 2 жыл бұрын
Start from Proto Indo European, maybe? There's only two voices instead of three! Oddly, the one you still have to remember is the middle voice. :\
@robinharwood5044
@robinharwood5044 Жыл бұрын
And how do you make theoretical quantum physics feel natural and easy?
@Gally912
@Gally912 3 жыл бұрын
After finishing my first year of attic Greek in an "intensive summer course"- I felt this in my ψυχή
@thomaebatsila8038
@thomaebatsila8038 2 жыл бұрын
Yeahhhhh
@DoYouSpeakGreek
@DoYouSpeakGreek 2 жыл бұрын
Wow!! Συγχαρητήρια!
@vijf
@vijf 2 жыл бұрын
XD
@Star77760
@Star77760 2 жыл бұрын
Soul λέγεται η ψυχή
@vagthegamer7429
@vagthegamer7429 2 жыл бұрын
ουδεν κακο αμηγες καλου. Εκτος απο αυτο το μαθημα
@basilisntellas6665
@basilisntellas6665 2 жыл бұрын
Bro we Greek kids have to memorize all of these things😂
@tonivoul1971
@tonivoul1971 2 жыл бұрын
Only history nerds can learn easily acient greek
@athenapol7507
@athenapol7507 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonivoul1971 I learn things really easily (and Ancient Greek) but I am not a history nerd even though I like history (but in general I prefer math and art but this is not relevant)
@vsauce4992
@vsauce4992 2 жыл бұрын
*had
@MensHominis
@MensHominis 2 жыл бұрын
I guess that's why why your forefathers murdered nearly the whole system and started to write at least two moods/tenses* with simple particles, yes? 😄 *) (subjunctive and future, am I right? I've studied ancient Greek but have only been looking into modern Greek for half a year now.)
@tonivoul1971
@tonivoul1971 2 жыл бұрын
@@athenapol7507you like maths which it was a very greek thing to do and if you like history and suck at it doesn't matter you only to be interested to it
@omegacardboard5834
@omegacardboard5834 2 жыл бұрын
Somehow this made me want to learn Ancient Greek even more
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 2 жыл бұрын
Good!
@tonivoul1971
@tonivoul1971 2 жыл бұрын
To flex on the English speakers lol I will do the same
@p3rS3
@p3rS3 2 жыл бұрын
Bahaha good luck with that
@Nehauon
@Nehauon 2 күн бұрын
@@tonivoul1971even on Greeks
@dorianphilotheates3769
@dorianphilotheates3769 2 жыл бұрын
All true: Greek is a fiendishly difficult language to learn well. I once got into an automobile accident in which I sustained a compound fracture of the ankle, a dislocated shoulder, and a head wound. My injuries required manual resetting without anaesthetic, surgery, and the insertion of orthopaedic hardware. But it was all worth it: it got me out of sitting a Greek exam.
@kiriakos.17
@kiriakos.17 2 жыл бұрын
it's so funny when we have Greek tests in school and people don't show up because they're ""sick"" 💀💀💀💀 as if we don't know
@flyingskyward2153
@flyingskyward2153 3 жыл бұрын
"Angry duck hissing looks like an X". Hahaha
@PewPewPlasmagun
@PewPewPlasmagun 3 жыл бұрын
Untitled Goose Game flashbacks occur in my mind...
@gimgame1397
@gimgame1397 2 жыл бұрын
Χ is supposed to be the english H so laughing is χαχα
@dimitrisdimitriadis4913
@dimitrisdimitriadis4913 2 жыл бұрын
@@gimgame1397 Not really. He's talking about ancient Greek, where X is a kh sound. The daseia (like c but up there ') is the h sound. Even in modern Greek, the X is still a lot coarser than the English H.
@karolyborsi2135
@karolyborsi2135 3 жыл бұрын
8:19 Horselover = Φιλιππος (Philippos) :D
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
I’m glad you got that! 😄
@akariito4579
@akariito4579 3 жыл бұрын
horsefriend not horselover. filos vs. erastis.
@georgegkoumas5026
@georgegkoumas5026 2 жыл бұрын
@@akariito4579 and everything is good till someone mixes up these two in words like "παιδόφιλος" which comes from "παιδί" (child) and "φίλος" (friend) but means child predator...
@alexxxO_O
@alexxxO_O 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgegkoumas5026 OH GOD, "PEDOPHILE" LITERALLY MEANS "CHILDFRIEND" - THAT ISN'T VERY COOL. Definitely not a remnant of anything. Nice last name, fellow Greek. You can always tell that someone is Greek by their name.
@akariito4579
@akariito4579 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgegkoumas5026 yes you are right, but exactly that is what the west does. They pretend greek doesnt exist anymore and can give to a word the meaning they want to. Nowadays mostly out of political reasons, there are tons of such words. Its easier to lure their people with "pedophile" than "childfriendly".
@JustMe-gz2kl
@JustMe-gz2kl 2 жыл бұрын
Everyone: Aah, math is so hard, I can't understand a thing People who are learning Ancient Greek: 👁️👄👁️
@p3rS3
@p3rS3 2 жыл бұрын
Well I am greek and I have to tell you that the hole middle and high school we learn ancient greek
@pedrosabino8751
@pedrosabino8751 2 жыл бұрын
Well, i only learned greek alphabet due to math and physics 😄 Γρεεκ αλφαβετ
@prezentoappr1171
@prezentoappr1171 2 жыл бұрын
@Enrico Amatori 3blue1brown for me
@username55ify
@username55ify Жыл бұрын
@Enrico Amatori Good Lord, this is so lame
@topazbutterfly1853
@topazbutterfly1853 Жыл бұрын
That’s because most of the Modern Mathematics have been invented by the Ancient Greeks
@Faustobellissimo
@Faustobellissimo 3 жыл бұрын
Luke, how is this brilliant attempt at reverse psychology working as a marketing technique so far?
@culturecanvas777
@culturecanvas777 3 жыл бұрын
I'm going to start studying Greek after watching this. 🤔🤔🤔 _you cannot keep your secrets from me forever, oh ancient scrolls!!_ 😤😤
@sebastiangudino9377
@sebastiangudino9377 3 жыл бұрын
I had abandoned ancient greek a few month ago, due to lack of time. This video made me crack open that Athenaze one more time, so I'll say it's been working well!
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like it’s working hehe
@jesussuarez2985
@jesussuarez2985 2 жыл бұрын
@@polyMATHY_Luke I only believe you are being honest, and sincere with the Ancient Greek language learning. There are loads, and loads of ups, and downs, and do's, and dont's, and you are not sketching it out as the easiest language to learn to.
@p3rS3
@p3rS3 2 жыл бұрын
@@culturecanvas777 hhahahhahaah good luck with that.. YOU'LL NEED IT I am greek tho
@alexanderalfaro8314
@alexanderalfaro8314 3 жыл бұрын
I spent 4 semesters taking Greek for my classical studies major in college and this video super accurately describes how I felt during that time. Still, though, it was definitely worth having learned.
@georgios_5342
@georgios_5342 2 жыл бұрын
If you had a friend show you basic modern Greek, it would have probably been a bit easier
@earendilthemariner5546
@earendilthemariner5546 2 жыл бұрын
I had classical studies classes. Two of them. Im a history major but i needed the units. One was a monster/folklore class but the other was mythology, all of it greek. We read ovid, some homeric hymns, some snippits of Euripides, and one story (i forget the name) about Bacchus and the Maenads and someone climbs a tree, and someone gets ripped apart by the bacchantes (i think it was also euripides)? Idk. I dont remember. Its was a few years ago. The professor was dope and we learned greek words here and there when it was important to the day's topic, but i dont remember the words except for thyrsos.
@stixoimatizontas
@stixoimatizontas 2 жыл бұрын
I have been studying ancient Greek for 6 years in high school. In my last year, I got to the point I was able to understand an average text, analyse syntax and grammar and translate in modern, the moment it had been given to me. Painful memories.
@christosnitsos4040
@christosnitsos4040 2 жыл бұрын
I am a native Greek speaker, and have taken only 3 years of ancient Greek in highschool. I remember having bought a huge book on irregular verbs .that was bigger than the official grammar of ancient Greek issued from school. I can sympathize with the sentiments of the video, although for me the experience was learning something familiar. So, without being an expert or a scholar of the Greek, language I would advice -if possible- to start with modern Greek. It is easier to learn and a great stepping stone for ancient Greek. On top of that there is a hidden treasure of modern Greek literature, poetry, and philosophy generally unknown to the world, that would surprise many people.
@orlonarsino6729
@orlonarsino6729 Жыл бұрын
@@nikostheofanidis9970 If pronounciation is the only confusion and maximum damage that can be caused by learning modern greek first... then count me in. I feel way more confident in "fine-tuning" my ancient greek once I start it.
@thusdchannel4052
@thusdchannel4052 2 жыл бұрын
And now imagine having to learn literally everything about ancient greek and you also have to translate everything in order to pass into a university by 17-18 years old
@tonivoul1971
@tonivoul1971 2 жыл бұрын
If you have a photographic memory lile mine you will find them easy to learn them Bro i can learn one in 20 minutes or 30
@pauloskesanidis8911
@pauloskesanidis8911 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonivoul1971 Believe me even with photographic memory it would still be very difficult to learn if you are not a native speaker.
@helgaioannidis9365
@helgaioannidis9365 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonivoul1971 what exactly can you learn in 30 minutes? Ancient Greek?
@tonivoul1971
@tonivoul1971 2 жыл бұрын
@@helgaioannidis9365 translate stuff that philosophers said or some stories by them
@helgaioannidis9365
@helgaioannidis9365 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonivoul1971 you can learn a whole language in 30 minutes? Cool. How many languages do you know so far?
@baklavaconsumer1080
@baklavaconsumer1080 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine having to do this at the age of 12. Wouldn't that be funny hahahaha
@walterdreiberg
@walterdreiberg 2 жыл бұрын
I have had Ancient Greek and Latin on school since I was 11
@victors5018
@victors5018 2 жыл бұрын
@@walterdreiberg same
@walterdreiberg
@walterdreiberg 2 жыл бұрын
@@victors5018 Nice 💪
@thesorcererwiththepointyhat
@thesorcererwiththepointyhat 2 жыл бұрын
Hahaha that would be funny indeed * cries in greek *
@somekindofdude1130
@somekindofdude1130 2 жыл бұрын
@@thesorcererwiththepointyhat to be fair we dont learn the langauge except if our parents are uni teacher or doctors with infirioty complex, sooooooo.....
@tijnmoer9136
@tijnmoer9136 3 жыл бұрын
Currently learning Ancient Greek in school, this actually made me laugh
@manorueda1432
@manorueda1432 3 жыл бұрын
Having a bad day? 🤣 Poor Obelix, he thought the Romans were crazy, imagine if he had known the Greeks better... 😖😱😂
@radiantcharts3178
@radiantcharts3178 3 жыл бұрын
To me he just sounds like a crybaby who complains to the whole world for not understanding a language that is not used anymore 😂
@BasildeRayen
@BasildeRayen 3 жыл бұрын
Celtic Invasion of Greece in 279 BC. A huge army of Celts goes in, butchering their way, pillaging, showing unimaginable acts of cruelty. Nobody gets out........
@johnnyplatis
@johnnyplatis 2 жыл бұрын
@@BasildeRayen Except that, they met their demise in Delphi, where according to the legend Achilles himself together with Athena were leading the Greek army.
@BasildeRayen
@BasildeRayen 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnnyplatis Actually not just an army but the whole population (men, women, children) of every age run after them, recalling the sacrileges they made earlier.
@dorianphilotheates3769
@dorianphilotheates3769 2 жыл бұрын
T. L.O.R - The pillaging Celts must have met their end attempting to learn Greek.
@giotis_pantel
@giotis_pantel 2 жыл бұрын
That's why if you learn ancient Greek you get far far many ways to perceive the world around you.
@davidweihe6052
@davidweihe6052 2 жыл бұрын
Wouldn't a tab of LSD be easier?
@xshwei
@xshwei Жыл бұрын
@@davidweihe6052 yeah but it works for a few hours
@celston51
@celston51 3 жыл бұрын
Ancient Greek: the real reason unification had to wait until Philip II and Alexander the Great. "From now on, our dialect shall be this!" and thus Koine Greek saved human sanity.
@KostisP83
@KostisP83 3 жыл бұрын
Koinē Greek is actually the Attic one. Philip set as dominant Greek language the idiom of Athenians. He was smart enough and he did it for geopolitical reasons. Philip is way more great than his son Alexander. Philip ruled a kingdom of shepherds because Macedonians were a shepherds kingdom until Philip and he achieved to make them noble men philosophers fighters and respected by all other greek kingdoms at the end. Philip the Great. Discredited by hisyory
@dinos9607
@dinos9607 2 жыл бұрын
@@KostisP83 Koini is not the Attic one. Sure Attic influenced the general grammar (in terms of official grammar and orthography) but the syntax is not at all the same as the Attic, it is much more streamlined and comprehensible to the modern speaker, foreigner as even more to the ethnic Greek (native Greek speakers can read Koini Greek with little trouble). The official alphabet was the Ionian one, not the Attic one. We need also to realise that Dorian - and in particular the Macedonian-Epirotan part of overall Dorian) had a massive influence in the development of Koini, especially in accent and syntax and this is a realisation we just wake up to. We do have Macedonian writings by poor half-uneducated people, even women of middle-low class, dating back to the Peloponesian War (late 5th BC century) and these are some of the easiest texts for the modern Greek to read. Attic Greek of 5th BC century as we know it was a written language, not an oral one, even Athenians themselves did not speak like that. We know that from theatrical plays where dialogues are more natural and the syntax is simpler.
@mahatmaniggandhi2898
@mahatmaniggandhi2898 2 жыл бұрын
@@KostisP83 philip was definitely the greater one, alexander only conquered and even though he conquered a lot thats basically all he did afaik. he was also fucking crazy
@mahatmaniggandhi2898
@mahatmaniggandhi2898 2 жыл бұрын
@@dinos9607 your last paragraph makes wonder whether the written attic greek was a more archaic and conservative type of greek or not. because usually when the literary and formal language is different from the colloquial one it means that the formal one is an archaic form. at least this is true for my native language persian
@dinos9607
@dinos9607 2 жыл бұрын
​@@mahatmaniggandhi2898 The Attic texts we have, such as Plato, Aristotle, Thucydides, Herodotus were all written by extremely educated writers in a form of Attic which was quite very far from the oral spoken Attic dialect of the day. Writers such as Xenophon were ever maintaining an orthography that was almost 2 centuries obsolete in his time in the late 5th century BC. We do have examples of written text closer to oral speech from Aristophane's comedies and it is visibly easier in comparison, even if again it remained a theatrical (thus kind of poetic still) language. Mind you, such texts are difficult and often puzzling even to people who study ancient Greek for decades and a main part of the difficulty is the altered syntax : ancient Attic syntax is hell (e.g. they could be going on paragraphs using participles instead of verbs!)! They were difficult texts even back in those times for the average Greek. Modern Greeks can ready easier the Koini Greek (i.e. the resulting amalgamation of older Greek dialects) and they read e.g. the New Testament (1900 years old) almost like a modern book. The reason is that it was written for the most in simple Greek quite very close to the oral speech of the day. Myself as a Greek who had no formal training in Attic or Koini Greek did the experiment for a foreign colleague of mine and he was amazed when I could translate literally word for word random passages from the New Testament (1st AD). I could master a general translation of passages from within Thucydides' history (5th BC) however losing quite some details, often not being able to get the full meaning but still getting the general idea of what it was saying. I tried the Iliad (8th BC) and to his amazement I could grab a lot of words and even get, in vague, what it was talking about but then losing most of the times the details and the general idea. This, on a language that is almost 3000 years old, in a highly poetic form and formed out of a combination of older poems written in 2 extremely archaic forms of Attic and Aeolian dialects. Greek in general was for the most a conservative language. Because it was widely written and because Greeks maintained, at least up the end of the Eastern Roman Empire in 1453 a very high rate of literacy (only comparable to what was attained in Europe in the late 19th century), it meant that there was an intrinsic continuum of the language even though it underwent considerable changes as all languages are going through time. Reading and writing decelerates the rate of linguistic change.
@mauriciomachado7929
@mauriciomachado7929 3 жыл бұрын
Nothing like finding someone who knows the pain you've been through
@stretch3172
@stretch3172 3 жыл бұрын
I studied Koine Greek for a year in grad school and agree 100% with this 😅😭. What takes 20 minutes to learn in Spanish or Chinese could easily take months to master in Greek. It’s beautifully insane.
@p3rS3
@p3rS3 2 жыл бұрын
Let's say years instead.... I am greek..
@jeton9153
@jeton9153 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine how modern world would be if the Library of Alexandria had never burned
@r.j.esposito8056
@r.j.esposito8056 3 жыл бұрын
As a native Greek, Italian, and English speaker with 6 years of Ancient Greek studies my first thought when I saw the title was: "He has got to be pulling my leg!" Interesting to see how people perceive it from the outside.
@NCXitlali
@NCXitlali 2 жыл бұрын
Is ancient Greek that much different from modern Greek? I speak Spanish but Russian, which has a much more complex Grammar, was easy to get used to. Makes me wonder how seriously difficult Greek is compared to Russian.
@NCXitlali
@NCXitlali 2 жыл бұрын
@@freedomgoddess looks like I need to steer clear then hahahha
@KazKindred613
@KazKindred613 2 жыл бұрын
@Nubiamancy What does that have to do with literally anything?
@georgegkoumas5026
@georgegkoumas5026 2 жыл бұрын
@@freedomgoddess about the difference of sparta and athens, there is a saying of ancient sparta: "ἢ τὰν ἢ ἐπὶ τᾶς" (translates to "either *you are coming back holding* it or *you are coming back* on it", the bold are not written nor said but the meaning is there. It is referring to their shields, since sparta is known for its soldiers, meaning that the soldier is either coming back as a winner, holding his shield, or coming back dead, carried by other soldiers on his shield, and that's because they didn't consider retreating as an option, that's also the mindset behind Leonidas) which may sound confusing to greeks who haven't heard it before but with the pronouncing of athens it becomes "ἢ τὴν ἢ ἐπὶ τῆς" which is written the same as morden greek, excluding the parts that don't exist "ή την ή επί της"
@dimitrisdimitriadis4913
@dimitrisdimitriadis4913 2 жыл бұрын
​@@freedomgoddess But every language does that "add 3 letters and you get a new word" thing. Like "take" (=λαμβάνω). Take, take out, take on, take up, take under etc are all different from each other. Greek just usually does it before the stem word, english after.
@giannakk
@giannakk 2 жыл бұрын
The beauty of this language is that every time you speak English you use it, you say paralyzed for example, it comes from λυω. The verb you mentioned .
@Siss2012
@Siss2012 Жыл бұрын
As well as analyse, dialysis(from διαλυω), catalyst (from καταλυω), to name just a few off the top of my head
@Glassandcandy
@Glassandcandy 2 жыл бұрын
The weirdest part of Greek to me is that it’s a million times harder to learn than latin, but once you get a grip on it, Greek authors are much easier to read than Roman authors. Once I had a year or two of Greek under my belt, Homer wasn’t so bad to get through. Vergil and Tacitus however had me pulling my hair out lol
@stixoimatizontas
@stixoimatizontas 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks to AG I was able to understand english german russian etc better.
@thesecretlibrary890
@thesecretlibrary890 2 жыл бұрын
Definitely not "a million times" but it's more complex than Latin. Both languages are hard to learn.
@prezentoappr1171
@prezentoappr1171 2 жыл бұрын
@Reinhard Von müsel maybe thats the loan words or even isogloss? though it has its parts in reconstructing the proto language using comparative linguistics, atleast the corpus is not scarce though like other lone daughter language in one branch or even its own branch.
@abhinavchauhan7864
@abhinavchauhan7864 2 жыл бұрын
@@stixoimatizontas how ?
@oscillatewildly666
@oscillatewildly666 Жыл бұрын
oh yes! latin is "a language of the masses" until tacitus shows up... i had the urge to pull my fingernails out having to read tacitus for a year in school when i was 16
@Rsharlan3
@Rsharlan3 2 жыл бұрын
I picked up my first Greek textbook 37 years ago. Every book I've looked at since then teaches λύω by chapter 3. Someday, I hope to meet this word in actual Greek.
@SPAPanthrwpos
@SPAPanthrwpos 2 жыл бұрын
Tους ζυγούς λύσατε!
@nikospapageorgiou2345
@nikospapageorgiou2345 2 жыл бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/m6qxlWavia6SmJI
@ceruchi2084
@ceruchi2084 2 жыл бұрын
The #1 reason for reading the Iliad: Chryses comes "to get his daughter released" in the first scene. Textbook λύω, plus textbook "use of the middle voice"!
@petrosdorizas6814
@petrosdorizas6814 3 жыл бұрын
I kinda feel worse now that I was complaining that Russian is too hard to learn, lol.
@culturecanvas777
@culturecanvas777 3 жыл бұрын
Russian is only hard in the beginninh. After that, the language is very well-organized. 😊
@fraimx2674
@fraimx2674 3 жыл бұрын
As a native Russian speaker, I fully understand your pain
@PewPewPlasmagun
@PewPewPlasmagun 3 жыл бұрын
@@culturecanvas777 No. It is still difficult bcs very irregular forms. Even as a native speaker I find it to be pure chaos with only some semblance of order.
@sebastiangudino9377
@sebastiangudino9377 2 жыл бұрын
@@PewPewPlasmagun I do actually also think it gets a lot easier. The thing with Russian for foreigners, particularly English speakers, is that in order to even start saying basic things in Russian, they need to get introduced to a loot of grammar, gramatical gender, inflection, verb conjugation, cases, a completely new writing system, lack of the copula "to be" in most sentences, and a few new phonemes! All that stuff since the very beginning, before you can even think of saying "The book is on the table". Once you finally climb that awfully ladder at the beginning, the rest is kinda like learning any other Language, are there exceptions? Sure! A ton! But so are in Spanish and French, and those are the "easy" languages
@PewPewPlasmagun
@PewPewPlasmagun 2 жыл бұрын
@@sebastiangudino9377 Spanish is the most regular thing ever compared to Russian, if you look at verb inflections. There is only one verb that I have ever seen which can be conjugated differently (erguir), at least so far as I have found. And the stress???? In Spanish there is 100% clearness but Russian is PURE chaos. To say nothing of rhe fact that dialectwise the stress is ofttimes different. Also, verbs have often older or simply alternative inflections regarding times or participles, ect. Yes you may understand what is meant once you have gained a basic understanding and a feel for Russian but you are incorrect elsewise, bvs mastery is a different thing. I repeat, I am a native speaker of Russian and I live the tongue as much as the other 3 that I know (save from English, with which my relationship is somewhat twofold).
@sotiriapapadopoulou8945
@sotiriapapadopoulou8945 3 жыл бұрын
I am Greek and I find ancient greek quite difficult. Some texts are easier and really beautiful, of course- for example Xenophon's. Koine greek is another story -for today's Greeks. It's closer to modern greek and we can understand it... well, more or less.The language of the New Testament, especially John's gospel, is amazing.
@dinos9607
@dinos9607 2 жыл бұрын
John's gospel is the easiest because he writes in oral-like Koini Greek. Any modern Greek without formal training in any of ancient Greek can read it easily, almost like a modern book give or take a few notes. Mark's gospel is the most difficult since Mark was educated and tried often to emulate antiquated forms of Greek, Attic-style as it was the fashion in Roman times. But still Mark is readable. It is guys like Plutarch, the 2nd century AD Delphi priest, philosopher, historian who does try hard to emulate the 5th century Attic-style and his texts are far more difficult as they are not Koini Greek but a "Katharevousa" of his days. We need to note that Attic language was a written literary language as much as Homer's language was a poetic language (made up by 2 basic dialects and including 1000s of poetically invented words). As such these texts are bound to be difficult to read and they were meant to distinguish the educated from the uneducated - remember ancient Greeks needed to get lessons in ancient Greek to read Homer, it was not automatic for them either. Of the classical writers, Xenophon is one of the most difficult - who would expect a warlord like him to be so eloquent and complex writer! The easiest text of the Classical Age, 5th century BC, is the Pella Katadesmos, a curse written by a poor Macedonian woman that barely knew writing => she wrote in oral speech and her way of expressing herself sounds eerily close to Koini Greek, a testament of the massive influence the Macedonian dialect (a Dorian-related one just like the Epirotan and Aetolian ones) had upon the evolution of the Greek language.
@thesecretlibrary890
@thesecretlibrary890 2 жыл бұрын
@@dinos9607 "can read it easily" No they actuallg don't. Keep living in your false beliefs.
@johnphilippatos
@johnphilippatos 2 жыл бұрын
@@thesecretlibrary890 Yes we actually do. I could never accomplish anything of value at the Ancient Greek studies back in my school days, as I was more of a maths-science guy, and yet I can still understand 99% of John's Gospel. Try reading it for a change. And while you do, if you speak modern greek quite well, or you are a native, keep an open mind to what he is trying to say. You'll be surprise of how much of his writings you will be able to underastand.
@p3rS3
@p3rS3 2 жыл бұрын
Αυτοοο
@gabrielcarvalhosaraiva4138
@gabrielcarvalhosaraiva4138 3 жыл бұрын
Also: - As an Indo-European language, Greek shares many vocabulary with other languages from the same group, so it's easy to identify what is being told about... GOTCHA! - for instance: Nai means yes, and Ochi means no!
@Adhjie
@Adhjie Жыл бұрын
Ah yes echidna and hedgehog case, tak in polish vs Indonesian, also vedic Sanskrit is hard too cuz a lot of substrate words from BMC not sure about Greek
@ryam4632
@ryam4632 2 жыл бұрын
It is that difficult to study Ancient Greek, but for some reason I simply cannot give it up. It's so venerable in my mind that my attitude towards it is almost mystical.
@craighughes536
@craighughes536 3 жыл бұрын
Loves it... Who knew ancient Greek was so easy.. . 😭Best video ever.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Craig!
@Tengwarius
@Tengwarius 3 жыл бұрын
Fifty Shades of Gre...ek! GOTCHA! That's why Luke is in infernal red today!
@user-bs9il5it9g
@user-bs9il5it9g Жыл бұрын
i had a mental breakdown studying ancient greek as a greek and that made my day thank you :)
@SakisTotsikas
@SakisTotsikas 2 жыл бұрын
Luke: Im gonna learn ancient Greek Kratos: You are not ready Boy
@srfrg9707
@srfrg9707 2 жыл бұрын
By the way, pancreas is an ancient greek word. Meaning all-meat. Because reasons.
@mariospeppas8155
@mariospeppas8155 2 жыл бұрын
The thoughts of every greek highschool student :,-)
@katerina.m2329
@katerina.m2329 2 жыл бұрын
In Greece, children learn ancient Greek since 7th grade. And actually, middle voice is also used in modern Greek, so we learn it from ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
@dinos9607
@dinos9607 2 жыл бұрын
... and we forget about it right after. I still try to bring to my mind a middle voice verb even in modern Greek. E.g. "Χτυπιέμαι" (I hit myself) is middle voice or passive voice? Because it sounds like passive but it is me doing that to myself, thus has to be middle isn't it?
@katerina.m2329
@katerina.m2329 2 жыл бұрын
@@dinos9607 I think it's middle.
@rosalina528
@rosalina528 2 жыл бұрын
@@dinos9607 "χτυπιέμαι" είναι παθητική φωνή, αλλά μέση διάθεση.
@dinos9607
@dinos9607 2 жыл бұрын
@@rosalina528 Πώς τα λες έτσι, δείξε λίγο έλεος!
@tiagorodrigues3730
@tiagorodrigues3730 3 жыл бұрын
Ancient Greek is really easy. Little children learned it for centuries on end, surely you can too! ☺
@eeggor4541
@eeggor4541 2 жыл бұрын
Ιm Greek and I actually had to learn ancient Greek in school its actually pretty easy for me
@user-br6eo6qv7u
@user-br6eo6qv7u 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Greek and this is the third yearn I take Ancient Greek lessons and I I'm telling is hard to learn even for us the native greeks. But there are so many amazing things about this language. There are countless English words that actually are Greek. It gives you another way to perceive the world. But yes it's a little pain to be honest. Πολυ ωραίο βίντεο. Καλη σου μέρα!!
@user-vs8vf1ij9x
@user-vs8vf1ij9x Жыл бұрын
The moment that he says: oh there is one regular verb (λύω) 🤣🤣🤣
@woody13fly
@woody13fly 3 жыл бұрын
You had me at "angry duck hissing"
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
χαχαχα
@Prostopyotr
@Prostopyotr 3 жыл бұрын
I never thought I would have heard him say OG, but I’m not mad about it.
@tzam8983
@tzam8983 2 жыл бұрын
In Greece you HAVE TO learn ancient greek for 3 years in middle school.
@stixoimatizontas
@stixoimatizontas 2 жыл бұрын
Back in my days, it was mandatory to take AG classes for the whole duration of high school (yes all 6 years). although, in year 5 and 6 nobody could bother paying attention, because we were too occupied with preparing for the finals.
@wilsonmyers926
@wilsonmyers926 2 жыл бұрын
This just makes me want to learn it even more.
@theamericancristero7390
@theamericancristero7390 2 жыл бұрын
Every time I start getting bored with Latin and start considering learning Koine so I can read the new testament in it, I come back to this video Luke.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 2 жыл бұрын
Hehe. Well you should still learn Ancient Greek. This video is just a joke
@elpisp
@elpisp 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the people: Ugh Ancient Greek is so damn difficult! I'm never gonna learn it! Greek students: Hold my raki
@tonivoul1971
@tonivoul1971 2 жыл бұрын
I don't drink alcoholic crap And i am a acient greek nerd and history nerd
@elpisp
@elpisp 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonivoul1971 Relax dude, it was a joke...
@tonivoul1971
@tonivoul1971 2 жыл бұрын
@@elpisp no its kinda a stereotype for the Balkans that everyone here drinks alcoholic drinks like this one you said
@elpisp
@elpisp 2 жыл бұрын
@@tonivoul1971 I'm a Greek myself and the original meme says: "Hold my beer" but I changed it to raki to be more of Greek-themed. -_-
@johnphilippatos
@johnphilippatos 2 жыл бұрын
Ok, Hold my Korpi water then. Satisfied?
@georgios_5342
@georgios_5342 3 жыл бұрын
I once heard that the "unnecessary" smooth breathing mark actually meant some sort of a liaison with the previous word, and that this is why, when followed by a word that starts with a vowel, many words in ancient Greek that end in a vowel will generate an extra ν (n), especially verbs. But this happened to all the verbs so it's really a leftover of old.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 2 жыл бұрын
It’s from the Ionian alphabet adopted by Euclid in 403 BC. When so many words begin with vowels but no spaces are written between words, the smooth breathing marked the beginning of a many new words. It doesn’t make sense when we have a system that uses spaces
@samuelwoldesemait3350
@samuelwoldesemait3350 3 жыл бұрын
“You’re suffering from pancreatic failure” *laughing in background*
@user-kh6nt3le4f
@user-kh6nt3le4f 2 жыл бұрын
You know what the worst thing about ancient Greek is? Here in Greece we (learn) ancient Greek in school AND odyssey / Iliad and if we don't know these things by the time we are done with school it's concidered a bad thing
@Fantabiscuit
@Fantabiscuit 2 жыл бұрын
You’re lucky
@ImperatorGrausam
@ImperatorGrausam 3 жыл бұрын
"Dual, why do you even need a dual?" Being an Arabic L1 speaker this got me hahaha
@sebastiangudino9377
@sebastiangudino9377 3 жыл бұрын
Wait, what dialect do you speak? Masry (The main dialect I've been learning) don't have the dual anymore (Well, it does, but just for nouns not for verbs i mean), and i used to think this was the case for all of them, was i wrong? Are you just referring to the nouns? Has my life been a lie?
@ImperatorGrausam
@ImperatorGrausam 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebastiangudino9377 I speak the Gulf dialect. The plural and dual suffix are written the same "-ين" but pronounced differently. The dual is "-ayn" while the plural is "-een". And yes, it mostly is used for nouns, rarely for verbs as well. I don't know if this is universal for all Arabic dialects though.
@sebastiangudino9377
@sebastiangudino9377 3 жыл бұрын
@@ImperatorGrausam Ohhh! I get it! Interesting! In fusha you do conjurate the verbs differently for singular, plural, and dual and that for me is hell
@revilo178
@revilo178 3 жыл бұрын
Why do you need a plural either? Many languages (Japanese, for instance) don't have one at all.
@sebastiangudino9377
@sebastiangudino9377 3 жыл бұрын
@@revilo178 In Indonesia it is optional, like "buku" can be book or books, of you need to clarify you say "buku buku"
@renatibk
@renatibk 2 жыл бұрын
We actually have a kind of middle voice in portuguese aswell. It's called "Reflexive voice". Ex: when you do an action but you are the patient of that action - "i cut myself" (i cut but at the same time i'm being cut)
@sebbo_h7121
@sebbo_h7121 Жыл бұрын
Lots of languages have that, and no it's not that simple sadly
@pedrosabino8751
@pedrosabino8751 2 жыл бұрын
In Brazil(probably in others portuguese speaker countries too) when someone say something we don't understand properly we say the person is speaking greek hehe
@Bunnokazooie
@Bunnokazooie 3 жыл бұрын
"The cape hangs/was hung on his shoulders"
@carlbergmann3294
@carlbergmann3294 2 жыл бұрын
I learned platonic Greek. It is hard to learn in the beginning, but as soon as one has got the basics, it is great fun. And Koine is actually quite easy, so you will soon be able to translate the Septuagint and the New Testament. To all beginners I will recomment to begin with the verbs. Start with the simpler ones like παιδευω, λυω etc. to understand how to form tempora. Then follow up with verba vocalia, verba muta, verba liquida and verbs ending on -μι. And do not fear the Aorist. You will come to love it. By the way: Ancient Greek is a good match to be translated into German. We both have a love of composites.
@lumino8435
@lumino8435 3 жыл бұрын
Oh no I was actually thinking about taking ancient greek in uni, don't ruin my dreams😭😂
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
You’ll be fine!
@lumino8435
@lumino8435 3 жыл бұрын
@@polyMATHY_Luke I hope so xD
@sebastiangudino9377
@sebastiangudino9377 3 жыл бұрын
@@lumino8435 Well, think about this, if you watched this video you now know what all the hard thinks are going to be nothing will take you by surprise
@victors5018
@victors5018 2 жыл бұрын
grow the f*ck up I've been taking it since middle school
@sebastiangudino9377
@sebastiangudino9377 2 жыл бұрын
@@victors5018 Was the rude language necessary?
@zhouwu
@zhouwu Жыл бұрын
Now that was therapeutic. Nothing like watching someone else suffer trying to learn that language. Especially someone who can speak fluent Latin to Italians to the point that they start to lose their temper.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke Жыл бұрын
Lol
@mikelowden477
@mikelowden477 2 жыл бұрын
I've been going through LLPSI, and was just re-reading Chapter 18, where Orberg sneaks in "Lingua Graeca difficilis est". I have a feeling he also had the need to just vent about that (even if in only one sentence). Haha I haven't taken a crack at Greek yet, but I bet that sentence hits different for those who are on that journey.
@PodcastItaliano
@PodcastItaliano 3 жыл бұрын
We picked the same time to publish our vids 😆
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Great minds think alike!
@manorueda1432
@manorueda1432 3 жыл бұрын
I'm scared now... but there we go!
@sebastiangudino9377
@sebastiangudino9377 3 жыл бұрын
This combination makes me very happy, GRAZZIE Davide!!
@manorueda1432
@manorueda1432 3 жыл бұрын
@@sebastiangudino9377 🤣
@user-jo4pl7vu1x
@user-jo4pl7vu1x 2 жыл бұрын
As a greek even for us is difficult as heck
@vonchaled
@vonchaled 5 ай бұрын
Now I see why my Arab ancestors loved the Greeks, we both have a very easy grammatical systems!
@jasonlp4928
@jasonlp4928 3 жыл бұрын
Don't worry... If you ever feel like learning Greek is a Sisyphean task, our grammar and syntax (both Modern and Ancient) is being taught horribly here as well! This video had the ONLY fleeting explanation of the middle voice I've ever come across, nobody explains why things are named as they are or how the constructions work at all, they just throw a table of verbs, moods and voices at you and call it a day... Have fun!
@pingu7471
@pingu7471 2 жыл бұрын
Just wanna mention, thos leafy green things are incredibly great. I love them. They are lovely.
@mohamedalaa8928
@mohamedalaa8928 2 жыл бұрын
just finished my 5 years of studying ancient greek(and latin) at university, i still can't put the right accents on luw in pluperfect.
@KingGeorgeX
@KingGeorgeX 2 жыл бұрын
Hello, I am a native Greek speaker and teacher by profession. I'd like to give some examples for the use of the verb "λύω" and some of its derivative words used in both the ancient form and the modern version of the Greek language as well as in the English language: ΛΥΩ (or ΛΥΝΩ for modern Greek) = Solve, settle, dissolve, untie etc. ΛΥΣΙΣ (ΛΥΣΗ) = LYSIS (meaning solution, improvement or even destruction in Biology terminology) ΑΝΑΛΥΣΙΣ = ANALYSIS ΔΙΑΛΥΣΙΣ = DIALYSIS ΠΑΡΑΛΥΣΙΣ = PARALYSIS ΥΔΡΟΛΥΣΙΣ = HYDROLYSIS (perfect example for the "h" sound in the beginning) ΑΝΑΛΥΤΙΚΟ = ANALYTIC And a more complex derivative word would be: ΨΥΧΑΝΑΛΥΣΙΣ = PSYCHOANALYSIS, i.e. ΨΥΧΗ (PSYCHE) + ΑΝΑΛΥΣΙΣ (ANALYSIS) Hope that helps and it "doesn't sound Greek to you" anymore! 😉 Cheers!
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 2 жыл бұрын
Haha the jokes in the video are not to be taken seriously
@KingGeorgeX
@KingGeorgeX 2 жыл бұрын
@@polyMATHY_Luke of course not! Just trying to add a grain of knowledge here. I appreciate the effort you put in making those videos. Keep up the great work!
@ibnAmat
@ibnAmat 2 жыл бұрын
“H looks like someone sneezed on the book while you weren’t looking” I’ve watched a couple of Lukes videos but by god, I never knew he was this funny 😂 The whole video I was laughing my as* off until the end...when I remembered that I wanted to learn ancient Greek 🤣
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 2 жыл бұрын
Haha thanks
@Ghostattackss
@Ghostattackss 2 жыл бұрын
I had 6 years of Ancient Greek at school (Gymnasium in the Netherlands, I dropped Latin after 3 years or so).. This video had me laughing and crying at the same time 😂 I will never forget the one sentence my Greek teacher translated years ago, still to this day.. I do not know what he meant by the translation. Every once in a while I come across a screenshot of the translation, giving me immediate flashbacks to our Greek classes lol. The translations was something like this (note; the original translation by my teacher was in Dutch): 'And Socrates said.. Logically Kriton, do those you mean do that, because they think they have an advantage by doing that, and also I, I will not logically do that' Confusion much 😂
@jaydoublegee2831
@jaydoublegee2831 3 жыл бұрын
I speak Greek every time I get drunk and I see something written in Russian…
@dorianphilotheates3769
@dorianphilotheates3769 2 жыл бұрын
5:25 - ΘΟΥΚΥΔΙΔΗΣ ΟΛΩΡΟΥ ΑΘΗΝΑΙΟΣ...the reason I have grey hair.
@spontidakisnikolas3313
@spontidakisnikolas3313 2 жыл бұрын
I'm from Greece and they forced us to learn those things by 12 years old and now that I'm 18 and now I remember almost nothing hahaha 😄.
@IRINAKI72
@IRINAKI72 2 жыл бұрын
Αχ αυτά τα αρχαία ελληνικά. Τουλάχιστον ξέρω να κλίνω το λύω σε ενεστώτα ενεργητικής φωνής και σε μέλλοντα φυσικά διότι απλά προσθέτεις ένα "σ". Αυτά από εμένα, άτομο που πάει δεύτερα λυκείου. 😉
@spontidakisnikolas3313
@spontidakisnikolas3313 2 жыл бұрын
@@IRINAKI72 Μόλις τελείωσα 3η λυκείου. Να ξέρεις πως εάν πας θετική κατεύθυνση δεν θα θυμάσαι γρι 😂😂
@johnphilippatos
@johnphilippatos 2 жыл бұрын
Μην ανησυχείτε παλικάρια. Κι εγώ όταν τελείωσα την πρώτη δέσμη πριν από 120 χρόνια + Φ.Π.Α. που πήγαινα σχολείο, έτσι νόμιζα, ότι δεν θα θυμάμαι τίποτα. Όμως τα βρίσκεις συνεχώς μπροστά σου στην καθημερινή ζωή, ακόμα και αν δεν το παίρνεις χαμπάρι. Εντάξει; (Το "εντάξει" btw είναι "Έν τάξει" και είναι καρά-αρχαίο.)
@user-jc4zz2fs7u
@user-jc4zz2fs7u 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnphilippatos με πρόλαβες ... Τα ίδια θα έγραφα ..
@Koma_Wa
@Koma_Wa 3 жыл бұрын
As a Greek, sometimes i struggle with "Katharevousa",which is way after (and easier) than Ancient Greek but before Modern Greek. I can't even imagine how hard Ancient Greek looks to a non-Greek. Also, as someone already said, we need to learn Ancient Greek for our university admissions and let me tell you, it didn't go well. 😔
@StergiosMekras
@StergiosMekras 3 жыл бұрын
Kathareuousa is a dumpster fire of a made up "language" than needs to go die in a ditch. It's some fop's idea of what modern Greek should be like, while loosely borrowing stuff from ancient Greek and having about as much accuracy as the Erasmian pronunciation.
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 3 жыл бұрын
Καθαρεύουσα is actually considered a modern Greek language. It just resembled Attic Greek in some grammar and vocabulary.
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 3 жыл бұрын
@@StergiosMekras but it sounds so fancy 🥺
@StergiosMekras
@StergiosMekras 3 жыл бұрын
@@olbiomoiros Pretentious. That's the word you're looking for. Kinda like writing a book about the sewage system of the Eastern Roman Empire...
@YiannissB.
@YiannissB. 3 жыл бұрын
@@StergiosMekras χαχααχαχαχ ααχ
@itay3013
@itay3013 3 жыл бұрын
This is hilarious! I love the editing, please make more of this format!!!
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I will
@itay3013
@itay3013 3 жыл бұрын
@@polyMATHY_Luke Fantastic! I'm so glad!
@billdestroyerofworlds
@billdestroyerofworlds 3 жыл бұрын
Hearing someone else say all the stuff that has been going through my head is strangely cathartic.
@hydrophobicmilesedgeworth2773
@hydrophobicmilesedgeworth2773 2 жыл бұрын
Yes ..., here in Italy it is much more common to study ancient languages ​​at school, usually Latin and ancient Greek. I don't know how but some manage to understand something, after the first 3 months I didn't understand anything anymore (I was only studying how the accent works at the time) and after about 2 years I still don't understand anything. DON'T DO IT DON'T RUIN YOUR LIFE
@laurabalconi4267
@laurabalconi4267 2 жыл бұрын
Qualcuno che mi capisce😪
@hydrophobicmilesedgeworth2773
@hydrophobicmilesedgeworth2773 Жыл бұрын
@@laurabalconi4267 Ho quasi finito il IV liceo e ancora non capisco nulla 👌👌
@feleslucis-emanueldearaujo6237
@feleslucis-emanueldearaujo6237 2 жыл бұрын
You may find me a masochist or crazy man, but I find Ancient Greek quite relaxing. My only real problem with Ancient Greek is the pitch accent and the accentuation. I mix those damn accents a lot.
@ashtonshelton8584
@ashtonshelton8584 2 жыл бұрын
“Little things stuffed into grape leaves”😂😂I laughed a bit too hard at that
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 2 жыл бұрын
haha thanks, I enjoyed writing that line
@DMp-xp6mj
@DMp-xp6mj 2 жыл бұрын
I studied ancient Greek for three years and had to take an exam in order to pass to university, this video gives me PTSD.
@stixoimatizontas
@stixoimatizontas 2 жыл бұрын
I feel so old. We used to study AG for 6 years. And my uncle used to write in "katharevousa" 😂
@jkl180able
@jkl180able 2 жыл бұрын
The more complex a language is the more the beautiful it is.
@daisybrain9423
@daisybrain9423 3 жыл бұрын
At the end of the video, I turned my mousepointer toward the like-button, only to find that I had already liked the video, but forgotten about it. Now I feel disappointed that I can't like it twice. Thank you for this experience.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
And I thank you for watching
@Criticalmass96
@Criticalmass96 3 жыл бұрын
Love this video, really well made and funny. Hope you make tons more videos in this series! This is fast becoming one of my very favourite KZbin channels!
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks very much!
@vasilis2478
@vasilis2478 2 жыл бұрын
I think Greek is indeed a very difficult language to learn, but in everyday life everyone on the planet speaks a little Greek every day. 😉
@Barbara-oy3bp
@Barbara-oy3bp 2 жыл бұрын
When you're greek and have been studying ancient greek so much because of the finals that it follows you even in your youtube recommendations...
@sh0rtbread144
@sh0rtbread144 3 жыл бұрын
this has the same energy as Mark Twain's essay on the German language in video form :> really nice video man, keep it up 💖
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Yes Mart Twain as part of the inspiration
@user-so8kx7uj2x
@user-so8kx7uj2x 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahahahahahaha hearing the intro, as a Greek student of History& Archaeology I felt awkward 😂😂😂 Ευχαριστούμε! I know, Greek language is not easy. If someone manages learning ancient Greek, then medieval and modern dialects will be quite easy. Remember. Even for the best modern Greek philologists it's very difficult to fully understand the text. Imagine if it's a philosopher's, politician's or rhetor's text...it's like climbing a mountain in the middle of the winter!
@misterpikes7600
@misterpikes7600 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact : Not only is Homer ancient for us , but he was also considered ancient for people living in the 1950s
@sylvarias
@sylvarias 3 жыл бұрын
Hahaha, love it! ... And I don't even speak Greek! (Even if maybe I should, considering my name, hmm 🤔) This is a great format, I can't wait to see more! Looking forward to the one about Latin, seeing as I recently started learning it and fell in love with your channel 😁 Gratias tibi ago, magister!
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I’ll make one
@Prostopyotr
@Prostopyotr 3 жыл бұрын
HOLY MOLY! I hope this will become a series! 🙏
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe it will be!
@DANIEL-ee6vk
@DANIEL-ee6vk 2 жыл бұрын
“Ἐγὼ μὲν οὖν οὐ χαλεπὴν ὑμῖν εἶναι νομίζω τὴν πορείαν ἀλλὰ παντάπασιν ἀδύνατον.” 😂 πέθανα
@Brandon55638
@Brandon55638 27 күн бұрын
Και εγώ. Το βίντεο ειναι τόσο ξεκαριδιστικό, ειδικά το ανέκδοτο για τον άνθρωπο που έπασχε από παγκρεατική ανεπάρκεια μαθαίνοντας αρχαία ελληνικά.
@AlephwithBeth
@AlephwithBeth 2 жыл бұрын
I think I had kidney failure from advanced Greek grammar.
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 2 жыл бұрын
Hahahaha I’m so sorry to hear that! 😂
@danaeclean1328
@danaeclean1328 2 жыл бұрын
i like this guy. greek girl approves. it's actually hilarious how english people try to understand ancient greek with english in mind (i mean yea, makes sense) but the fact that their own language derives from Greek makes it so ironic lmao. but jokes aside, ancient greek is literally so important to learn, especially for greeks. you can't fully understand modern greek or use it in full capacity without knowing where the words even came from and their etymology. it's just, the way its taught in schools nowadays... they make us hate it and that sucks.
@iberius9937
@iberius9937 3 жыл бұрын
Hilarious video! Well done! It is still my favorite language, both Ancient and Modern. One single language that has changed little through the centuries, and its difficulty has not discouraged me from learning it.
@kovaxim
@kovaxim 3 жыл бұрын
That intro was so different that I thought it was an ad and clicked away. Gosh, you got me there...
@polyMATHY_Luke
@polyMATHY_Luke 3 жыл бұрын
Gotcha !
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