M.2 NVMe vs SSD vs HDD - Loading Times in Games 2024

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@TestingGames
@TestingGames 7 ай бұрын
Games : Horizon Forbidden West - 0:06 Starfield - 0:53 Forza Horizon 5 - 1:36 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesForza5 Assassin's Creed Mirage - 2:57 Avatar Frontiers of Pandora - 3:42 Cyberpunk 2077 - 5:11 - gvo.deals/TestingGamesCP2077 Alan Wake 2 - 5:41 Hogwarts Legacy - 6:24 - gvo.deals/TG3HogwartsLegacy Resident Evil 4 - 7:09 System: Windows 11 Ryzen 7 7800X3D - bit.ly/43e3VxW MSI MPG X670E CARBON G.SKILL Trident Z5 RGB 32GB DDR5 6000MHz - bit.ly/3XlBGdU GeForce RTX 4080 SUPER 16GB - bit.ly/48U6jfH HDD - WD Blue 7200rpm 1TB - bit.ly/2KxYSFc SSD SATA 3 - Samsung 870 - bit.ly/3wuPfPG SSD M.2 - Samsung 980 PRO - bit.ly/3USqF4w Power Supply CORSAIR HX Series HX1200 1200W - bit.ly/3EZWtNj
@BrunoCabralPeixoto
@BrunoCabralPeixoto 7 ай бұрын
WD Blue not is a good HD, only WD Red.
@elderman64
@elderman64 7 ай бұрын
Could you compare frametime graphs, delays, fps etc for each of the storage solution too?
@frankynakamoto2308
@frankynakamoto2308 7 ай бұрын
@TestingGames can you do the same test but in game testing frame rate on all games NVME vs SSD vs HDD for frame testing performance
@jponz85
@jponz85 7 ай бұрын
Specifically which m.2 and ssd sata did you use?
@MeatBallFreaks
@MeatBallFreaks 7 ай бұрын
The advantage of using an HDD is that you can see your reflection in the screen in front of you and reflect on all the problems in your life
@Nick_R_
@Nick_R_ 6 ай бұрын
You can even go and make a cup of tea between levels!
@noc44
@noc44 6 ай бұрын
​@@Nick_R_ on some games, you can even going out solving your real world problems and still have enough time to read some of the game tips
@Viilap
@Viilap 6 ай бұрын
XD funny
@PaijoedanYT
@PaijoedanYT 5 ай бұрын
And its cheap😅
@lucazani2730
@lucazani2730 4 ай бұрын
​@@noc44as a person rocking three HDD's, I can confirm my life feels full and fresh due to just the amount I've self reflected on myself during game loading
@riderdiago8138
@riderdiago8138 7 ай бұрын
Advantages of HDD: "You have time to read the tips or part of the game's story" SSD - M.2: *¡NO!*
@greatexpectation6456
@greatexpectation6456 7 ай бұрын
Yeah it's useful to get experience especially in games like elden ring or souls games where finding tips to defeat a boss.
@shreyasdharashivkar8027
@shreyasdharashivkar8027 7 ай бұрын
🤡 take. Nobody reads them, real players figure it out themselves
@greatexpectation6456
@greatexpectation6456 7 ай бұрын
@@shreyasdharashivkar8027 if your pro and understand the game well then ofc it doesn't mean anything to u.Otherwise it can be helpful for beginners or in words noobs which most Pc gamers with 1000 dollar PC's stuck at same stage playing over and over again till they somehow manage move to next phase of the game after completing the first one.
@darknesgamesreal
@darknesgamesreal 7 ай бұрын
1000 dólares, aqui dá 5 mil reais​@@greatexpectation6456
@aniening6580
@aniening6580 6 ай бұрын
no body really reads then
@club4ghz
@club4ghz 7 ай бұрын
It's not just loading. HDD's have texture pop ins, stutters and fps drops in cpu heavy games.
@GGBGameplays
@GGBGameplays 7 ай бұрын
Yes, that is important to mention
@CustomPCBuilderUK
@CustomPCBuilderUK 7 ай бұрын
💯%
@Jakiyyyyy
@Jakiyyyyy 7 ай бұрын
HDD in any games in general.
@Ladioz
@Ladioz 7 ай бұрын
SATA SSD have stutters in games too sometimes. They can't keep up with loading textures fast enough
@club4ghz
@club4ghz 7 ай бұрын
@@Ladioz I think the speed difference between sata and nvme is so minimal that you are probably mistaking some cpu, shader compilation stutter with it.
@acid_flash
@acid_flash 7 ай бұрын
5:06 Avatar 😱🤯
@MaTtRoSiTy
@MaTtRoSiTy 7 ай бұрын
OMG that Avatar HDD loading time! Damn....
@Goreck65
@Goreck65 7 ай бұрын
Avatar on HDD 😮💀
@bibekdebnath0
@bibekdebnath0 7 ай бұрын
Nap break for gamers
@TigraSpartan
@TigraSpartan 7 ай бұрын
Classic Ubisoft moment
@nurialco3303
@nurialco3303 7 ай бұрын
When loading took more than gameplay.
@stevensv4864
@stevensv4864 7 ай бұрын
bro what the actual fuck
@jojo-vi9wq
@jojo-vi9wq 6 ай бұрын
5min to load the game 💀
@progressivemusic786
@progressivemusic786 7 ай бұрын
Sata ssd still rocks
@Shydou-exe
@Shydou-exe 2 ай бұрын
@@zauce1627 br certeza
@ZakdoDia
@ZakdoDia Ай бұрын
​@@Shydou-exe😂
@GenshinHonkaiStarRailImpact
@GenshinHonkaiStarRailImpact 13 күн бұрын
Not when they're usually the same price as NVME
@victorlothbrok
@victorlothbrok 10 күн бұрын
​@@GenshinHonkaiStarRailImpact but if you already had all m2 slots full, is worth just to put more satas then buying a nvme with more storage
@Darkswordz
@Darkswordz 5 ай бұрын
Rumor has it that Pandora is still loading...
@uluhitah12
@uluhitah12 7 ай бұрын
HDD for gaming in 2024? NO. HDD for personal data and important data? YES.
@Gbnm-gv6gp
@Gbnm-gv6gp 6 ай бұрын
HDD in 2024 is best option for storing large number of data
@jek230
@jek230 5 ай бұрын
HDD still works perfetcly fine for old games. And it will not affect your fps or stability in game. For example: Call of Duty 4 to Call of Duty Black ops 2 an HDD would work perfectly fine.
@mad_max21
@mad_max21 5 ай бұрын
Seeing that SSD is far more reliable than HDD that uses moving parts that can break down, it's not wise to put your personal and important data on them too.
@nocapproductions5471
@nocapproductions5471 5 ай бұрын
How much data are we talking? Modern SSDs get up to 2TB, even 4TB if you are willing to spend more money. HDD holds the same while being less reliable.
@Fortheweak13
@Fortheweak13 5 ай бұрын
Not at all !! HDD are notably not reliant because they involve mecanical parts. I bought 2 HDD and 2 SSD 10 years ago, my 2 HDD are now dead (last one died 2 month ago) while my SSD are still rocking.
@evilbomber907
@evilbomber907 7 ай бұрын
SSD SATA -Best decision price/time
@somebody2978
@somebody2978 7 ай бұрын
And compatibility, you can take it to any PC.
@jamesschaller753
@jamesschaller753 3 ай бұрын
Bro a good NVME is like $50 almost the same price as SSD no reason to have one now a days tbh 😂
@emolookinass
@emolookinass 3 ай бұрын
@@jamesschaller753only reason i got one is because i had no other slot for an m.2 so there’s one reason to get one lol
@Dregomz02
@Dregomz02 3 ай бұрын
@@jamesschaller753 there is a reason: you can have more than two or three ssds since most motherboards only have that many ssd slots, you can use pcie but it may disable something you don't want I have 2x m2 and 1x sata ssd
@OGYouTubeEnjoyer
@OGYouTubeEnjoyer 2 ай бұрын
@@Dregomz02 It will disable the sata slots I'm not using because of my 6 m.2 drives.
@DEZ7ROYER
@DEZ7ROYER 7 ай бұрын
I remembered the old days when i had a 120gb hdd and had to wait the Need for Speed Underground 2 to load... This with a 768mb of ram on Windows XP...
@BoPunk
@BoPunk 7 ай бұрын
I built a 486 DX2 66mhz, 8MB ram computer when I was 14. I couldn't even tell you the 2D/3D acceleration card I had back then (maybe Matrox)... but it played Janes USNF '97 quite well. And MS Flight Simulator 5.1. And of course DOOM 2!! Need for Speed Underground 2 came a bit later, probably with a graphics accelerator and a Cyrix chip! (Probably 100mhz, but maybe more). It's really hard to keep track of how far I've come! 😃
@marcos-r1v
@marcos-r1v 24 күн бұрын
High end machine. I used to play on a Dual Core 1.5ghz 256mb RAM
@demivik5812
@demivik5812 7 ай бұрын
dude who invented ssd you saved so much time
@stevens1041
@stevens1041 6 ай бұрын
Hey, good point. Who invented SSD?
@Ignisan_66
@Ignisan_66 Ай бұрын
Fujio Masuoka. He invended NAND flash memory which is used in most modern SSDs.
@marcos-r1v
@marcos-r1v 24 күн бұрын
a black woman
@galihkumara1742
@galihkumara1742 9 күн бұрын
@@marcos-r1v Nope. A Japanese guy named Fujio Masuoka
@BoPunk
@BoPunk 7 ай бұрын
I don't know who you are, or where you're from, but literally *ANY* benchmark comparison I can imagine in my mind... you've posted. You branching out from GPU's is a fun distraction, and this one further proves that M.2 NVMe's aren't that much better than standard SataIII SSD's. 👌 Big thanks for all you do! 🙏
@divinedragon88
@divinedragon88 7 ай бұрын
I would rather see a video comparing SSD M.2's speeds; example would be a 5000 MB/s vs 7000 MB/s. Or, perhaps be a Gen 3 + Gen 4 +Gen 5 comparison.
@andikazhr
@andikazhr 7 ай бұрын
kzbin.info/www/bejne/qnWVoaFnlM-Khrcsi=ZbwqbnUN6xcjN0hO You're welcome
@selohcin
@selohcin 7 ай бұрын
People have done those videos before. The differences in game load times are very small. The slowest M.2 and the fastest M.2 are within 10% of each other.
@Biyobi.
@Biyobi. 7 ай бұрын
The difference is minimal. Even the much slower SATA SSD on its worst benchmark was only a few seconds slower than the NVMe drive.
@divinedragon88
@divinedragon88 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the responses selohcin and Biyobi
@GGBGameplays
@GGBGameplays 7 ай бұрын
It's not about the sequential read/write speeds, it's more about random read/write speeds, and even SATA SDDs are very close to NVMe in random speeds, it relies in good controllers, DRAM cache, and things like that. Both SSDs are both much much faster than HDD, for example, it's 1MB/s for HDD and 30-50MB/s for SSD.
@Extreme96PL
@Extreme96PL 7 ай бұрын
Its more than just loading in most of these games you would also have stuttering and pop in on HDD.
@warnacokelat
@warnacokelat 7 ай бұрын
I miss the time when booting up the PC means its time to load up the laundry and do the dishes.
@shadowlemon69
@shadowlemon69 7 ай бұрын
HDDs are obsolete now (at least for gaming) yet here in the Philippines, a lot of gaming PCs, especially ones with Ryzen APUs still have 1TB HDDs and 128GB SSD
@xTurtleOW
@xTurtleOW 7 ай бұрын
its not really, you can go take a shit while the gaming is loading
@kamotetops1572
@kamotetops1572 7 ай бұрын
php 2.7k for bnew 1tb hdd vs php 3.5k for bnew 1tb sata ssd php 800 price difference for INSANE amount of loading time difference.
@Definedd
@Definedd 7 ай бұрын
@@xTurtleOW games also struggle performance wise with HDDs too, it'll cause stuttering and things not loading or textures not loading etc
@tkimtkim
@tkimtkim 7 ай бұрын
They put the HDD for everything but games, like pictures or movies for instance
@shadowlemon69
@shadowlemon69 7 ай бұрын
@@tkimtkim what am I supposed to do with the measly 128GB SSD then?
@Alex_Games_PCs
@Alex_Games_PCs 7 ай бұрын
I just bought a Sata SSD SanDisk Ultra 512gb to leave my old HDD retire. It's another life in PC and games.
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman Ай бұрын
These tests are always load times which m.2 and regular ssd load games the same. The biggest difference comes from stutter reduction/loading textures using a m2.
@Atrumoris
@Atrumoris 7 ай бұрын
While I do use a pretty decent gen 4 nvme for gaming, I am never ever going to use it to store anything important on it. There's just way too many horror stories of them failing to keep things long term. That's why I'm still using my HDD for all personal and work related stuff. You can get insane amount of storage for less money and they really don't need much to last you a lifetime. I am so grateful to see case manufacturers still include HDD racks to this day!
@P.W.R.
@P.W.R. 7 ай бұрын
Thats the best way to do it. Store important files on a HDD and use a SSD for gaming. That's what I have in my rig. All my important files are on a 8TB HDD and all my games are split across 3 SSDs. Two NVME drives and a SATA SSD. I never want to go back to a mechanical hard drive for games. Especially not after being spoiled with blazing fast loading times.
@MEGASTRIX
@MEGASTRIX 5 ай бұрын
Yeap. Still have my Hdd from my highschool years. Kinda insane how its still alive and running.
@MEGASTRIX
@MEGASTRIX 5 ай бұрын
Its slow but sometimes you dont need fast for certain things.
@محمدالجعلي-م2ت
@محمدالجعلي-م2ت 3 ай бұрын
​@@P.W.R.is there any difference between NVMe and sata ?
@Ичо-ы6х
@Ичо-ы6х 2 ай бұрын
I didn’t thought what the SSD sata would have difference whit SSD NVME only 1 second
@gogetablue7905
@gogetablue7905 7 ай бұрын
For Gaming: Sata SSD and M.2 NVME has no real world difference. So you'll be fine with either of them. M.2 NVME shows it's true power/purpose only if you need to process or transfer large amounts of files. For loading Games, Textures etc. This won't matter. Conclusion: Still you should get M.2 NVME's as they are often the same in price with the Sata SSD one's but if you don't have a M.2 slot or you ran out. Buying Sata SSD is a fine alternative. Don't go HDD unless really needed (Like server PC's or sumthing)
@gogetablue7905
@gogetablue7905 7 ай бұрын
Buying Sata SSD if they are cheaper than M.2 NVME in your area is also a no brainer for a gamer
@adolfogarcia7881
@adolfogarcia7881 5 ай бұрын
but the m2 get hot and can burn the motherboard, it is safer to use ssd
@GioKuster-s8m
@GioKuster-s8m Ай бұрын
@@adolfogarcia7881thats only gen 5 m.2 ssd just get a gen 4 one and you will be fine
@Regexion
@Regexion 7 ай бұрын
I hate how Forza takes several business days to launch compared to most games. Especially when you update GPU drivers, so you also have to wait for shader compilation.
@thesilentassassin1167
@thesilentassassin1167 7 ай бұрын
Forza is such a well optimised game when it comes to FPS considering most games nowadays are shit at optimisation, but loading time is terrible
@zsideswapper6718
@zsideswapper6718 7 ай бұрын
Apex also does that when you update drivers or the game itself. Takes 3 minutes at times.
@Jakiyyyyy
@Jakiyyyyy 7 ай бұрын
Not as long as Last of Us though. Last of Us is like 30 minutes. Meanwhile Forza 5 took like a minute. The only difference is that Last of Us still stutters despite already compiled pile of ****. 🤷‍♀
@godemperormeow8591
@godemperormeow8591 2 ай бұрын
Forza is developed by some of the most r-worded people on planet Earth. That is why.
@00Resev
@00Resev 7 ай бұрын
I have a suggestion for further testing on this topic. Its very interesting, and a real eye opener, but its also a rabbit hole into wonderland. Use a caching program (PrimoCache), and set an L1 caching task reserving some RAM (the more, the better), and associate it to the HDD. You can use any drive type (Even flash drives and SD cards.), but the most impressive and relevant results will come from HDDs, and Sata SSDs. The speeds you will get, even from the HDDs, will rival (or surpass) NVMe drives. At least in file transfers they do, i never tried it with games installed as i only use HDDs for external backup storage these days, but i don't see why it wouldn't greatly benefit game loading as well. I like it so much, that i bought a Primocache license. I bought 64Gb of RAM, of which i use half as L1 cache. And i even went a little crazy and also bought an Intel Optane M10 64Gb module, that i use as L2 caching. (Its overkill, but i really wanted to test one of these). I feed this setup into all my drives, permanent, or removable. For a "small" demonstration, here's a quick test i made, using a single run on CrystalDiskMark, on the Real World Performance profile (NVMe preset), with an almost full, external USB HDD, 5400rpm (Western Digital Elements). Here's the result: i.postimg.cc/FzdnnCtn/Crystal-Disk-Mark-20240509200931.png Compare it with your own drives, using the same settings. Mighty impressive as you can see.
@JohnnyRazor-hi2yf
@JohnnyRazor-hi2yf 7 ай бұрын
А что так можно было , всё это время ?
@shariff4473
@shariff4473 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for making this video!
@donnieh1221
@donnieh1221 7 ай бұрын
Any chance you could eventually trying with two hdd set up as one with raid 0? I did this on a PC build recently that I'm selling and it felt like fallout 4 loaded a lot quicker than when I used to play on just a single HDD. Curious to see timings of a raid setup vs normal hdd
@nocapproductions5471
@nocapproductions5471 5 ай бұрын
Sorry friend but HDD cannot run modern games no matter what you do to it. The proper way is to put games on ssd and keep hdd only for storage purposes.
@dwu9369
@dwu9369 Ай бұрын
I built an i7 6700K and an i7 9700K system that both had M.2 slots but continued to use SATA SSD. Since M.2 drives are dirt cheap these days, my upcoming 9800X3D build will definitely be using M.2 SSD just to save space on cabling.
@zlibz4582
@zlibz4582 6 ай бұрын
a request to the admin of this channel , please start including frame time and frame pacing in the coming benchmarks with the new release of cpu, gpu, ram , storage in the upcoming year because these values are going to become more important as the frame per second will be high in all scenarios given that pc hardware has come a long way , 1 percent , 0.1 percent lows , frame time , frame pacing is what decides the actual user experience in games especially for online games , please highlight them because most people think only fps matters ........ gamers should become more educated .....
@wanderingmind1104
@wanderingmind1104 2 ай бұрын
Running 4TB WD Purple Surveillance HDD (200MB/S) with no stutters and very good loading times on games.
@Ajstyle48
@Ajstyle48 7 ай бұрын
I also tested Alone in the dark game. On hdd its runs bad . texture loads very late and fps drops. Atleast get a sata ssd if u wana play new games. Keep Hdd for media and older games only
@republicbenchmarks
@republicbenchmarks 7 ай бұрын
Well I guess I can take a 5min break wile trying to load Avatar frontier of pandors on my hdd
@greatexpectation6456
@greatexpectation6456 7 ай бұрын
Probably close your eyes and take little rest till game finally opens up.Or drink a cup of tea in mean time.
@republicbenchmarks
@republicbenchmarks 7 ай бұрын
@@greatexpectation6456🤣
@Jakiyyyyy
@Jakiyyyyy 7 ай бұрын
That's a sign from the game to touch some grass.
@bradleymasangkay818
@bradleymasangkay818 7 ай бұрын
I'm used HDD for multimedia
@BrunoCabralPeixoto
@BrunoCabralPeixoto 7 ай бұрын
The HD WD Blue is bad HD. HD WD Red obtain 180 MB/s in read data. The blue 100 MB/s
@bradleymasangkay818
@bradleymasangkay818 7 ай бұрын
@@BrunoCabralPeixoto I have Kingston HDD
@riki-s
@riki-s 7 ай бұрын
На обычном жестяке после загрузки мира еще текстуры будут грузится какое-то время и на звуках и эффектах, производимых твоими действиям, тоже будет подлагивать, тк не может их синхронно подгрузить. У меня для любимых игр м2, для стареньких - сата. У сата особо нет плюсов сегодня, разве что, можно купить штук 5 бушных за копейки и неплохо расширить хранилище, но по скорости записи недорогой сата проиграет нвми, а дорогой сата брать ой как не хочется.
@donkolaptyan2449
@donkolaptyan2449 7 ай бұрын
OK, but how about comparing x3 M.2: 1) the slowest (the cheepest), 2) medium on price and speed and 3) the fastest one (and the most expensive, like 980 pro by Samsung or something similar)?
@garethperks7032
@garethperks7032 7 ай бұрын
Most applications don’t use multiple parallel disk threads or command queues, so will never benefit from the NVMe protocol. Developers have to explicitly parallelize their disk activity to use NVMe properly.
@gautamgoyal7397
@gautamgoyal7397 7 ай бұрын
If you are a gamer, then do you really need to spend 20-30$ extra to load your game a second faster.
@VaderLand3
@VaderLand3 7 ай бұрын
Yes it’s only 30 bucks.
@Regexion
@Regexion 7 ай бұрын
Where I live NVMe SSDs cost the same as SATA and they're more convenient - no cables and only 1 screw. Though I would say they are definitely overhyped. Some people act like SATA is garbage and NVMe the second coming of Christ.
@MarkAHoltz
@MarkAHoltz 7 ай бұрын
Since the NvME drives mount directly on the motherboard, it helps with the air circulation.
@AlexCS8
@AlexCS8 7 ай бұрын
@@Regexion One has very limited slot, usually just 1 in budget mb
@gautamgoyal7397
@gautamgoyal7397 7 ай бұрын
Is there any M.2 2242 SSD available in the market? As I have one free slot in my laptop. Also, can I use that port to do something else rather than putting ssd
@juancuelloespinosa
@juancuelloespinosa 5 ай бұрын
I thought there was something wrong with my pc when I saw forza horizon 5 take that long to load, even on an ssd. thanks for calming my worries lol I wonder why that game takes so much longer than many other ones. from experience, it streams in many textures even after loading in
@Tanish2708
@Tanish2708 3 ай бұрын
Imagine playing multiplayer games on Hard drive 💀 The game will end when we start😅
@1600elo-s3c
@1600elo-s3c 3 ай бұрын
Lmao fr
@stevens1041
@stevens1041 6 ай бұрын
I prefer SATA SSD, because I often need to hot-swap drives for the work I do. Also cheaper at high capacity than M.2. For a consumer that didn't need to remove/swap drives much, M.2 should be the way to go. Only my gaming PC at home has an M.2 drive, rest of my builds don't bother.
@tontsar91
@tontsar91 Ай бұрын
It's actually crazy how little there is difference between regular SSD and NVME compared to SSD and HDD 😳
@fungame8117
@fungame8117 7 ай бұрын
Thank🤗
@chan13153
@chan13153 2 ай бұрын
How about instead of just testing the loading you also test in game performance to see if theres any difference. Such as assets not loading in time or stutters.
@cmoneytheman
@cmoneytheman Ай бұрын
That’s what I wanna know the difference with stutters
@wheaton_drizz
@wheaton_drizz 3 ай бұрын
Does anyone know this song info 😅
@Nayr7928
@Nayr7928 7 ай бұрын
How about games with Direct Storage?
@realgamer1998
@realgamer1998 6 ай бұрын
5 yr old sata ssd keeping up with nvme. best investment ever.
@Dregomz02
@Dregomz02 3 ай бұрын
While two of my crucial sata ssds failed one died after 2 years, got replaced one and next one is failing after 3 years... Crucial never again
@Rusher2324
@Rusher2324 3 ай бұрын
Damn I never thought my drives are the problem, had a game on HDD and thought the problem was my poor gpu. Sold my pc but it's nice to learn for my next build.
@TheNandoZ
@TheNandoZ Ай бұрын
If i save my games in ssd external, its works the same? 😅
@justsayno1734
@justsayno1734 7 ай бұрын
You can get a decent 1 TB M2 SSD for around 60€ here in Germany. HDDs for gaming are absolutely obsolete now.
@source_sdk
@source_sdk 27 күн бұрын
first song name?
@sandrosfc
@sandrosfc 7 ай бұрын
Here I use nvme gen4 for AAA games, nvme gen3 light games, indies, heavier emulators... and I still have my hdds where I put media and light emulators
@TheLifeOfaBichon
@TheLifeOfaBichon 5 ай бұрын
I designed a brand new computer last month. All the internal hardware and case is brand new. I have Windows 11 Pro on a Corsair m.2 2TB gen5 (PCI 5.0) nvme. And my games on a different storage drive same exact drive as my OS is on. Those two drives have direct CPU access. Every game I load at max settings. Such as Dead Island 2, Mortal Kombat 1 Reborn, Cyber Punk 2077, Robocop Rouge City, Diablo 4. I kid you not. All it takes for all those games is 3 seconds on the loading screen. And then the game is fully playable. And I tested Diablo 4 last night. It's one of the few games out. That uses Direct Storage where a pci 4 or 5 nmve qualifying drive like I have. Direct X 12 Ultimate with Shaders 6.0 (I have an MSI GeForce 4080 16GB Super video card that features that). It loads from the storage drive to the system RAM directly then to the GPU/Video RAM. It bypasses loading to the CPU. Diablo 4 loaded to play with this technology last night in 3 seconds I just had to wait. Make sure your drives for gaming have direct CPU access on the mainboard. I full disk encrypted my OS for a test. Using AES-NI encryption hardware acceleration built in on my AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D 16 core CPU. I encrypted 2TB in 13 minutes. I'm living in my glory with this PC.
@Kultz
@Kultz 7 ай бұрын
I’d like to see a stability test as well between the them all. Most new games recommend an ssd.
@UrielVentris1984
@UrielVentris1984 4 ай бұрын
pretty cool that hdd still works even on ssd required games i still use my fleet of exos drives for all my games.
@МуляСидоровна
@МуляСидоровна 3 ай бұрын
На каком диске стояла Windows? Фоновые процессы и файлы подкачки отвлекают ресурсы у рабочего диска. Рабочий диск с играми и программами должен быть без Windows, тогда он будет работать быстрее. Особенно это касается старого HDD, он будет загружать игры в 2 раза быстрее.
@UrielVentris1984
@UrielVentris1984 4 ай бұрын
advantage of HDD is a massive game library on the cheap and with easy optimization namely primocache and ram, or enabling disk cache with a mod any game can become fast like an ssd. this has been proven over and over even in ssd required games. load times after the first become fast and gameplay smooth. you just need the gpu and ram to do all the heavy lifting, storage is mattering alot less with direct storage and these programs. so long as we have modder and programmer support ill continue to use my 100tb worth of drives for games. if it ever ends ill just enjoy the old ones.
@frankynakamoto2308
@frankynakamoto2308 7 ай бұрын
They need to invent a new NVME with more pins and also more cache for faster speeds.
@josel5831
@josel5831 22 күн бұрын
no Star Citizen? I think running it on my Hard Drive is what is what making it so laggy for be (besides the bugs).
@MarkAHoltz
@MarkAHoltz 7 ай бұрын
I still use HDDs, but only on a TrueNAS SCALE file server. You still cannot beat the storage value of HDDs especially at the higher capacities.
@greatexpectation6456
@greatexpectation6456 7 ай бұрын
Yeah even today I am seeing 1tb nvme and SATA SSDs same price as 2tb of HDD and 1 TB extra does make difference if your going to update your games like warzone 100gb every month.Even Apex legends takes up to like 75gb of storage space after every update.
@donkolaptyan2449
@donkolaptyan2449 7 ай бұрын
So, what's the point on spending about 100$ (or even more) extra for NVMe when you can have SSD for games?)
@workworkworkworkworkwork9
@workworkworkworkworkwork9 7 ай бұрын
its so sad, they making ssds so fast and it give nothing in games... it should be insta LOAD instaaa 0.1sec sata ssd 500mb /s m.2 15000mb/s
@respecttravel3891
@respecttravel3891 7 ай бұрын
I would apreciate to see ratchet and clank in your tests.
@stevensv4864
@stevensv4864 7 ай бұрын
what about windows load time? and fps comparasion
@docmars
@docmars 6 ай бұрын
Forza 5's load times are wild, yeesh!
@BlueSparkzVideos
@BlueSparkzVideos 7 ай бұрын
HDD are still great for archives, backups, and data files that aren’t part of your OS or Applications.
@caps741
@caps741 4 ай бұрын
Games with shader cache there is a bigger difference. My nvme loads cache up about 3 times faster than my sata SSD does. SSD and nvme are close. Just pointing out the actually difference is game dependent most of the time.
@portman8909
@portman8909 2 ай бұрын
Don't forget the convenience of NVMe by not taking up as much space or requiring SATA cables inside the case. Considering it costs almost the same now, no point in SATA.
@jeroen3618
@jeroen3618 27 күн бұрын
Mostly true yes. At the same time if you already have a SATA SSD there’s also not a lot of reason to upgrade to NVMe. And since there usually is only one NVMe slot, SATA is still extremely useful if you want more than one drive. The cables are definitely annoying though.
@mieramen27
@mieramen27 7 ай бұрын
Missing 1 important game that "punished" storage.. that is Ratchet & Clank : Rift Apart 😁
@Nicades
@Nicades 7 ай бұрын
its not only importent loading screen, hdd make feel stutter your screen and game its unplayable for me, your pc power on-off time is way too longer if your system has hdd. After sell my 1tb hdd to funny number and just buy ssds after this.
@christophermullins7163
@christophermullins7163 7 ай бұрын
So what is the advantage of nvme over SATA SSD again? I'm bout to save me some cash and buy a 2.5inch SSD y'all. Frfr
@scottishgamer7210
@scottishgamer7210 7 ай бұрын
This year I got a Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB for £235
@ameeksingh2620
@ameeksingh2620 5 ай бұрын
Wow. The difference between nvme and SataIII is way less than I thought. I'm still keeping my boot drive as an nvme though.
@dwanoid5042
@dwanoid5042 2 ай бұрын
So weird that nvme have no major advantage on alan wake 2 considering it was release only on ps5 and xbox series
@killerunity
@killerunity 7 ай бұрын
U must include Rust In Loading times
@TheOdsystem
@TheOdsystem 7 ай бұрын
Advantages of HDD: Store NSP and XCI files
@jonelsorel
@jonelsorel 5 ай бұрын
2 min to load Forza on a HDD, 1 min for Assassin's Creed? Really? :)
@Raikiri_87
@Raikiri_87 7 ай бұрын
I used only m2 ssd. My setup m2 990 pro and 980 pro samsung😎 2 tb Storage
@christophermullins7163
@christophermullins7163 7 ай бұрын
So you've saved yourself 1 second a day of load time with SSD that twice the price. Noice 👌😎 BTW I also have m.2 ssds but.. clearly they aren't impressive for gaming. Pcie 3 vs pcie 5 m.2 is probably 1/4 of a second or less on most games lol so long as you aren't on hddd... You good 100%
@thesilentassassin1167
@thesilentassassin1167 7 ай бұрын
@@christophermullins7163lol
@Biboran.
@Biboran. 7 ай бұрын
А как загружается система без быстрой загрузки ? у меня отключена быстрая загрузка потому что установлена амд видеокарта а производители амд и нвидиа рекомендуют отключать быструю загрузку что бы загружались нормально драйвера и не было сбоев следую этим советам и никаких проблем ни разу не было
@Fredrik7le
@Fredrik7le 4 ай бұрын
Klnda regret buying a Samsong 990 pro after seeing the vlose to no difference between a cheaper ssd
@johnadamson5040
@johnadamson5040 5 ай бұрын
HDD был взят самый медленный? Без кеша и с частотой вращения 5200) Was the slowest HDD taken? Without cache and with a rotation speed of 5200)
@assassins6451
@assassins6451 7 ай бұрын
Big Fan: No problem i can still wait 5 Min for Avatar 😂😂😂😂
@Relox361
@Relox361 7 ай бұрын
Ok I thought theres a bigger difference between NVMe and SSD.... wow
@dreamchaser3000
@dreamchaser3000 3 ай бұрын
Imagine playing warzone 3 in HDD so painful
@Antonio00213
@Antonio00213 5 ай бұрын
I got a pc and knew nothing about them I had a ssd and a hdd for extra storage but downloaded my games on my hdd let me just say… I had rust downloaded on it and literally had a shower took my time in it and come back did a few clash of clans attacks watched a few videos before finally loading into the game now I know why it took so long
@HawkSea
@HawkSea 7 ай бұрын
That HD is quick.
@thedigitallens
@thedigitallens 7 ай бұрын
Avatar loading on HDD will allow you to see a KZbin video
@iLeicha
@iLeicha 7 ай бұрын
It's funny how i don't have any HDD on my pc, All the space is SSD and about 1TB of Nvme mainly for the OS, both very cheap nowadays.
@cate01a
@cate01a 6 ай бұрын
when you next do these would love for you to also include 7200 / 5400rpm hard drives
@kamotetops1572
@kamotetops1572 7 ай бұрын
M.2 NVMe for your main games Sata SSD for your other games HDD for your homework
@Denniz69
@Denniz69 7 ай бұрын
For old games an HDD is okay but for newer games an SSD is an Game changer… I hate that 4-8 TB are sooooooo expensive
@scottishgamer7210
@scottishgamer7210 7 ай бұрын
This year I got a Samsung 870 QVO 8 TB for £235
@LusiTheCat
@LusiTheCat 7 ай бұрын
Everyone has sata ports buy 2 or 3 4tb Hdd and use Raid 0 Even softwareraid will be on same speed as sata ssds for low
@bradokbr4312
@bradokbr4312 6 ай бұрын
Nvme: It's worth it for those who work and NEED more data transfer speed, such as programmers, audio and video editing professionals, companies that need data transfers, 20...50...100gb... .servers and etc. SSD: Made for us, mere PC users focused on games and possibly some video editing (capcut). I was going to mention lives, but in this case it is a good CPU that allows you to do a good live at 1080 at 60fps (even if it is an HDD) The difference in performance between SSD and NVMe when loading or even turning on the PC is not worth the investment of 500 to 700 contos. I use a Kingston 480GB SSD with 120GB free full of stuff, and it's only taking 30s to turn on and enter Win. Then I get excited and buy an NVMe because I saw on YT that it's better, the PC turns on in 24 seconds... OK, what's up? I spent 600 contos just for that? Do we understand what I mean? Nvme has almost zero weight in fps gains, nvme will not improve graphics, it will just subtract a few seconds from loading times. And then I question you: Is it worth spending 600 contos just to feel this difference in charging? I don't think so. Nvme prices are not worth it for now, I would eliminate nvme as a priority on your home gaming PC, focusing on other more relevant components. The priority for a common user is: supply power motherboard CPU memoirs GPU SSD . . . . nvme
@iikatinggangsengii2471
@iikatinggangsengii2471 5 ай бұрын
had 2 sshd they boot and perform like champ, almost like ssd, wd black not too far from sshd, hdd 5400rpm is just bad, raid0 hdd pretty good, raid0 ssd very impressive what ive never tried is intel optane
@flavioxy
@flavioxy 7 ай бұрын
lol i could read the data faster than the HDD xD joke aside, HDD are for storing a lot of data as they go up to 24TB, so there's still a good reason to use them, especially in NAS systems
@Sergio-yk7wy
@Sergio-yk7wy 3 ай бұрын
Too bad games aren't optimized full for the faster ssds like on PS5
@bingo2828
@bingo2828 7 ай бұрын
И дело не только в загрузке . На HDD будут еще и статоры подтормаживание и еще много чего из за медленной скорости .
@acid_flash
@acid_flash 7 ай бұрын
Не сказал бы, что мои 2 HDD медленные, по 230 - 250 МБ/с. При должном уходе с ними нет проблем. Запись на дешёвый SSD 256 GB TLC происходит раз в 10 дольше 😆 (10 - 50 МБ/с), а быстрое только чтение (200 - 400 МБ/с). В основном ПК у меня NVME 970 Pro 1 TB MLC, если что (под систему и требовательные игры). 32 ГБ ОЗУ позволяют и с ЖД играть, без упора в подкачку.
@lightest2385
@lightest2385 5 ай бұрын
Me still on HDD💀 im finna upgrade today!
@bayukurniawan4788
@bayukurniawan4788 5 ай бұрын
HDDs' loading screens allow me to think about what Im doing with my life, so I prefer SSDs.
@ABDZA313
@ABDZA313 7 ай бұрын
Both SATA SSD and NVMe are great of course not going with HDD for games but for a high storage for low price to save files in it is good, I would say the Hybrid Drive is good too but there's not a lot and famous and They're the same price of SATA SSD.
@cannedmilk
@cannedmilk 6 ай бұрын
For a few extra seconds and for a lot less cash I’d take the SATA SSD.
@sierra7534
@sierra7534 7 ай бұрын
Do people still use HDDs?
@gigighidon3413
@gigighidon3413 7 ай бұрын
This video has 8 min because of HDD loading time 😁😁
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