The volante is definitely the most expensive in terms of RRP, but you can’t deny that the DL4 is the greenest pedal, at least in terms of the colour of the finish. To its credit though, the BOSS pedal has a hyphen in its name. These stark contrasts aside, I think we can agree that each device can be used to produce delay effects.
@MiguelBaptista19812 жыл бұрын
Pin this comment above. As a sidenote, The Volante has the most buttons, but the DL4 has the bigger ones.
@filipdinevmusic Жыл бұрын
Ahaahh
@cotyroberts Жыл бұрын
Hilarious
@SamCaseyFromSouthlake Жыл бұрын
The tone in the RE-202 feels a bit darker than the tone on the DL4, but it's a bit wider on the DL4! To each their own
@delatronics32572 жыл бұрын
I am the ex senior engineer of Roland UK. Who didn't use the Space Echo? I have worked on units from Radiohead , Scorpions, Pulp, Hank Marvin, Zak Starkey...and many more since 1988. Hank Marvin started with WEM Copycat but moved on to the RE-501 and RE-301 sometimes in series (I owned his RE-301 a while back. I also worked as a contractor for Line 6 and love their products but Strymon are new to me but I dig the sound!
@RyanMcQuen5 ай бұрын
Thank you for sharing this!
@bertrandvanasch3 ай бұрын
Wow Hank Marvin ! 🤩 legend great memories indeed !
@paulwatson921716 күн бұрын
So which do you rate higher the Boss re202 or the Line 6
@delatronics325716 күн бұрын
@paulwatson9217 probably the 202
@youbecha642 жыл бұрын
I only wanted to throw the money down for one (I already had a Oceans 12 for reverb/tremolo etc) So I got the Volante (based on AMC and other reviews). It just sounds gorgeous ...I am nowhere near exploring all its capabilities, but I an happy with the investment.
@coleytownson6532 жыл бұрын
Just stopped by to say I love my DL4. You can go on for hours and hours messing with different settings. Don’t think I’ll ever get bored with it.
@CMHobbies2 жыл бұрын
The Line 6 has SO much on it. For the money, it’s hard to beat for its versatility. I have all of those delays on my HX Stomp and I use them a lot. Pure sound quality though, the Volante is the cream of the crop and unbeaten (IMO).
@middle_pickup2 жыл бұрын
We live in the best time ever for gear. All of these are sick!
@1pfarrior2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see Anderson’s hook up a midi controller to send midi clock to pedals so the delays can be changed quickly and maintain the same BPM from one unit to the next.
@danielzdziarski70172 жыл бұрын
I have a Volante and RE-202. One thing Pete said is something I totally noticed as well: the Volante is a big sounding delay that has a very Chorus-y type thing going on in the sound. I love both pedals, but I've been tending to fall on the side of the RE-202. I love the character of the pedal and it has a really cool sound in the repeats.
@TheGrahamSnyder Жыл бұрын
That's why I'm selling my Volante . It also has this high end I can't get rid of
@JosipAngeloBorovac2 жыл бұрын
For me this is a clear-cut victory for Volante...just has this 3D sound to it, compared to others. Well done Strymon and I am not an easy guy to be convinced :-)
@JaymeSilverstein2 жыл бұрын
Exactly
@masterofreality230 Жыл бұрын
Its a keeper, when I eventually get a Meris LVX I will be set for life.......or a while at least lol
@DeathMetalGuitar2 жыл бұрын
Capt. Lee 6:40 -> Brian Setzer, Yngwie and Randy Rhoads = Roland RE-201... Alex Lifeson as well (Hemispheres, Permanent Waves, Moving Pictures)
@massimos68632 жыл бұрын
Great Demo All Great Sounding Delay pedals but I think the Volante sounds slightly better than the other 2
@markdavidofficial42742 жыл бұрын
I’d say the Volante is best straight up echo, the RE-202 is a Space Echo, and the Line 6 is the most versatile
@Citizen-1a2 жыл бұрын
Volante sounded noticeably better to my ears. But they all sounded good. Pah, kids today - totally spoiled.
@stan55852 жыл бұрын
The reverb on the original Space Echo was key to Dub/Reggae.
@rsguitar335 Жыл бұрын
While the Volante has a nice warm sound by itself (one guitar), I have concerns of how well it would cut through a live mix, competing with keys, bass, drums, rhythm guitar. I like the Space Echo.
@MickeyDs14 Жыл бұрын
If you turn the Rec Level up, it increases the gain since it’s like a preamp. It would definitely cut through a mix if dialed in high enough and the echo level turned up.
@cortmiller2 жыл бұрын
I have been obsessed with the space echo lately. I wonder if boss will do a firmware update in the future allowing stereo delay repeats. If so it would push the boss into the clear winner for me
@straycatscott822 жыл бұрын
@andertons Hank Marvin originally used a couple of meazzis and also had a binson baby, he used a re301 around 1977 then moved on to the re301 until around 1995.
@jacksonrepetskimusic2 жыл бұрын
I bought a volante on black Friday, and it is the best delay on the plant. Hands down.
@ernielamprell45322 жыл бұрын
The Hall & Collins is equal, but also has Meazxi Echomatics, Vox Long Tom and others. The Volante, will not allow these head spacings, so a compromise is required for Shadows numbers. The Volante sounds excellent though. Also, lets not exclude the TVS3 🙂
@kylebichler22582 жыл бұрын
Mine is on the way!
@nateonearth2 ай бұрын
Why did you put it on your “plant”?
@kh4858 күн бұрын
He “planted” it on his pedalboard 😂
@mjrisinsd68362 жыл бұрын
I think the DL4 is completely different than the other two. I would have it on my board along with a dedicated tape echo for the looper and swiss army capabilities, so it’s not really in competition in my mind. Also, I chose the RE-202, so can attest that it is great. It sounds amazing with distortion and has very intense amounts of wow; flutter; and also reverb.
@IamMusicNerd2 жыл бұрын
I liked the Boss Space Echo the best
@moduley3402 жыл бұрын
Volante: tape echo and spring(stereo) are connected in series. RE-201and 202: tape echo and spring(mono) are connected in parallel. DL4 MkII: I don't know. RE-202 is an exact clone of RE-201.
@BluesCover2 жыл бұрын
Thank you. I much prefer a comparison that let the listener decide for him self rather tell him what he should think or which tool is the better tool. But... I also think that there is a fail in all of this comparisons, because the boss re 202 should be compered to the Strymon el Capistan and not to the Volante. The Volante is different animal with different features. The DL4 should be compered to the Strymon Timeline.
@uelude2 жыл бұрын
I love the capistan, what do you think of the 202 Vs cap? Is Volante worth more than a used timeline? It sounds a bit "digital" - 202 sounds more dirty.. but missing something
@BluesCover2 жыл бұрын
@@uelude Hi. I think that it is very much depends on what you aim for sound wise. if you wont the sound of dirty tape delay with "this sound of a tape machine delay" go with the El Capistan or the RE202. if you after more clean and precise delay that goes from almost digital but not digital if you know what I mean, to tape delay go with the Volante. the Timeline and DL4 has a little bit of everything and some other interesting delays. it is also depends if you gonna use it in studio and recording environment only, or live performing? if the answer is both and you can afford only 1 I would go with the Timeline. it has big advantages in live situations and no one will ever notice the differences between El Capistan RE202 and Volante and DL4 and Timeline when played live with full band. especially when played in mono. if you are going to use it in studio recording environment, in my opinion it goes between the El Capistan and RE202 and depends on your taste and what you aim for. and what style of music you play. the Volante as I mention before is a unique thing that does it own thing. if you got more then 1 overdrive you can have more then 1 delay, especially if you are collecting pedals for studio recordings. so to sum it up: for live : timeline. for studio recordings (depends on your budget and taste and what you aim for) : I recommend to get 1st the El Capistan or RE202 and if you got the money and need, get the Volante after.
@chrisdavies91432 жыл бұрын
Volante sounds so much better to me, just a bigger image even in mono, not to mention that killer stereo field. Boss sounds too thin, I'm really underwhelmed by what I've heard so far. I think the Volante sounds better than the DL4 on this particular algorithm but I think the DL4 is an incredible pedal considering the range of delay types and those reverbs
@BrentAdams2 жыл бұрын
I just went for the TC Electronic Flashback Triple Delay. Three delay engines, each with 12 delay types plus 4 Tone Print slots to save special settings, that can be combined either in serial or parallel mode! It's so inspiring!
@toddlogan9023 Жыл бұрын
All do their own things great…had a volante sounded great solo but sound as good in a mix…had a re-2 but didn’t cut as well also…have the dl4 while it can’t do what the other two excel at…it’s got it’s own sort of gritty lo-fi thing going for it that just moves me and inspires me All professional gear!
@proteusswarm72912 жыл бұрын
Volante wins with the SOS mode alone. I think it's the best delay available today.
@masterofreality2302 жыл бұрын
Thats what I use, I might get a delay with a ton of different modes to go with it like the dl4
@qlyde2 жыл бұрын
It blows me away how good these sound. But why do people still crap on digital, if so many of these big popular pedals today are digital? I get that digital amps don’t sound like an amp in a room or feel the same, but what’s the difference between using strymon pedals vs a Helix if you’re running into a Tube Amp? 4 cable method Helix lets you bypass a tube amps preamp section and use a DSP preamp model, into a tube power section, with a real cabinet and it sounds amazing. Turned my Marshall Origin Head into a Fender or Vox and tbh I think the 4 cable method Helix setup with a Tube Amp is the best tones I’ve ever gotten.
@ryanmaroney47932 жыл бұрын
Gotta be the Volante for me, seems like DP even plays better with it and takes less time "adjusting" to the new sound.
@simonunderwood46962 жыл бұрын
Hank Marvin never used a Copicat. He started off with a Meazzi, moving on to a Binson and an RE301 and 501 in later years.
@bloved69382 жыл бұрын
I would like to see a comparison between the Boss space echo and the catlinbread deluxe belle epoche.
@horstglasmann347713 күн бұрын
Can the Boss do global tap tempo?Got a Volante, but decided to sell it because it can't.I don't like to tap in the tempo again every time I change the patch in the middle of a song.Good pedal for home use though.
@fraenkiboii2 жыл бұрын
Video suggestion: Lee & Pete: Could you talk a little bit about how you set up your victory amps? I bought myself a V40 and now I'm trying to find a video where you show some of the settings, but the amps are basically hidden most of the time.
@Daveskater2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure Pete just has his all at noon on the EQ. Lee has mentioned it before
@nicolasrivera53102 жыл бұрын
The quality in tone of the Volante is clearly above the other units.
@rickya38772 жыл бұрын
I would choose the Volante
@muluman882 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for TPS's 90 minutes video on the same topic tomorrow :D Edit: I'm stupid, it was Wednesday so I meant to write "Friday" or "the day after tomorrow"
@Duke_de_Plata2 жыл бұрын
wow that RE202 is just something else. I get this warm fuzzy feeling inside when its active
@empathysgone962 жыл бұрын
Should have added empress echosystem
@f33fifofum2 жыл бұрын
Bit of an unfair comparison, Volante is a serious step up on the other two. But good to hear all the tones nonetheless
@johnjgibson68072 жыл бұрын
It would be time for 3 Pedal Board Builds 👍👍🎶🎶🎸You Can Never have Too Many. Awesome Video.
@GraniteSoundtrack2 жыл бұрын
Actually only listened to it, couldn't see which was on, was funny how much less different they sounded once my eyes were taken out of the equation. They are different but not as much as your eyes think they are.
@TomSJazzBass2 жыл бұрын
I have to disagree with the captain on this. The DL4 is the one I care the least about precisely because it does too many different things. I'd gladly spend more for either the Volante or the Space Echo. And I disagree with Pete in that while I could instantly tell when the DL4 got switched on, I absolutely did not prefer it because it sounded too clean
@jasonthomas2082 жыл бұрын
Brian Setzer uses Space Echo too.
@glenproctor19992 жыл бұрын
New challenge to find a working Watkins Copycat! I had chance to borrow one in the 70's and it was amazing!
@jimmyjimmy9512 жыл бұрын
If you can find a Digitech Time Bender you can nail all the combined tones in these units for less money.. Great underrated piece of kit.
@YeatzeeGuitar2 жыл бұрын
Wow Volante wiped the floor... Nice since I own that already lol
@naturalrestingface18842 жыл бұрын
Please review the Memphis Sun delay. It's got it's own character and worth a look if you want that Sun sound! I already bought one from you!
@m0j0b0ne2 жыл бұрын
Brian Setzer travels with like, six Space Echoes.
@ErikOosterwal2 жыл бұрын
The Strymon seems to have greater stereo separation than the others.
@mmhcreates2 жыл бұрын
I think the others are mono only. Or at least that's how it was explained in the video.
@davedavem2 жыл бұрын
@@mmhcreates BOSS says the re-202 is "true stereo input and output", and they have a ton of cables there... Maybe the effects aren't stereo? Certainly the Strymon sounds "more stereo", if that's a thing.
@ErikOosterwal2 жыл бұрын
This video by Dr. Mix might explain a bit of Strymon's magic. They are probably implementing notch filters and delays to increase the perceived separation: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n4LSZ4RrorlsnKM
@charliekrengel13442 жыл бұрын
Can't speak for the DL4, but the RE-202 is a mono delay engine with a stereo reverb. The stereo in and out is for preservation of stereo effects pre and post the RE-202.
@mmhcreates2 жыл бұрын
@@davedavem thank you for the information. Just based on what you and the video said, seems like the effect is mono. But 'true stereo' sounds like it should be a stereo effect. Otherwise, surely if the effect is mono, what we hear in both ears is also mono. I should just read up onit, instead of assuming.
@XPJV2 жыл бұрын
And... by summarizing all, should I get Boss or Volante?
@paddyofurniture7052 жыл бұрын
Listen to EVHs tone on the first album.Like Sir Pete was saying we try and get the tones from recordings. Listen to EVHs pre mix-down tones,all together different than the end tone.
@gregmize012 жыл бұрын
I'll take all 3😬
@randysutton21202 жыл бұрын
The RE-202 case makes me think that there may be a CE-1 reissue coming...
@pCeLobster2 жыл бұрын
I hope not. That would be nearly impossible to resist.
@brrblack4972 жыл бұрын
The Gear Gods are listening. My older Keeley delay Workstation just started acting funny. When ya' hit the second delay switch the volume lowers? Time to upgrade.
@OssianEMills2 жыл бұрын
All 3 for the win!
@DocRossi2 жыл бұрын
Volante has a great looper and 8 presets.
@bradleyhenady20322 жыл бұрын
300 with MIDI!!
@musicandthewalk2 жыл бұрын
the much awaited comparison!!! Wuhoo!!
@matzer88462 жыл бұрын
WOW! ... just 3 great pedals ... each of 'em worth a try & buy ✅ The RE-202 is the most "old school"-appealing 🧔♀ the Strymon is "just a Strymon" ☑ and the new DL4 does it all 👍 Thanks a lot ... great comparison
@segul672 жыл бұрын
really got me to buy another pedal
@SnappyJCM8002 жыл бұрын
I enjoy the Ten Years Goneish riff at around 1:00
@bennyharderguitar2 жыл бұрын
The Volante is the best pedal on the market. They wipe the floor with Boss and Line 6
@RyansCustomShopandGearOutlet2 жыл бұрын
One of the most famous Space Echo connoisseurs is Brian Setzer.
@NOMADCREATIVESOLUTIONS2 жыл бұрын
ive been wondering what the TC Electronics M100 Stereo multi-effects is like, given TC electronics have some good sounding pedals - the price suggests it wouldnt be great?? but for home studio use?
@devinpatrickmusic2 жыл бұрын
I still prefer the Volante. It just sounds better to my ears.
@peterschaefer16652 жыл бұрын
You forgot to mention the fact that the DL4 mk2 has reverb as well
@sixbladeknife442 жыл бұрын
An older big box Deluxe Memory Man with a touch of vibrato dialed in does better tape sounds than all of these, despite that it’s an analog delay. I had the Volante, it’s nice and full featured but lost out to my old DMM in the pure tone dept. The other two sound good, not great.
@Jimmy5934-e1y2 жыл бұрын
I agree about the DMM.
@stilllifewithguitar1842 жыл бұрын
I have a late 70s DMM and I agree that there's magic in it for sure, but it can't do the multi-head thing, like if you wanted pick just heads 1 and 2 or whatever.
@clayjr672 жыл бұрын
I love watching you guys and I know you’re not trying to pick brands but the strymon is way better sounding on a good TV with a sound bar you can hear the sounds way better the strymon blows them away
@jconner38912 жыл бұрын
Line 6 all the way. For me anyways. 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
@2swifty4u._.182 жыл бұрын
Caps' face tells it all. The Volante takes the crown.
@TheFlutecart2 жыл бұрын
I've got the Volante and I love it. No reason to swap at all. I do still want the Catalinbread Bel Epoch Deluxe to add to my collection. But the Volante would stay on the board because MIDI. It's all about the program change.
@senorleups63402 жыл бұрын
The BED is epic. You won't regret buying it. (And I own the Volante)
@uelude2 жыл бұрын
Could you please explain why to get the Bel when you have the Volante?
@uelude2 жыл бұрын
@@senorleups6340 Why get the BED, please could you explain it's charms Vs Volante?
@TheFlutecart2 жыл бұрын
@@uelude I collect things. And I have two pedal boards.
@lasideasfugazes2 жыл бұрын
No doubts I'd go for the Volante.
@davedavem2 жыл бұрын
This is the shoot-out we all wanted!!! And the Line 6 is also present... ;)
@Prematron2 жыл бұрын
The line 6 has 15 hidden reverbs....
@justincase49252 жыл бұрын
What'? No digital readout?
@peternorth6782 Жыл бұрын
The reason your drawn to the sapce echo is perception. It looks like something you love so you love it. Nowt wrong with that.
@jesusblessthesecommentsamen Жыл бұрын
Sounded like the space eco had more volume warmth the other 2 sounded tinny compared. But the delays were very similar.
@wimdewild93452 жыл бұрын
Gilmour used a digital delay, actually two, for Run like hell.
@ericjenks95962 жыл бұрын
When I think space echo I think Brian Setzer
@waynedoherty77582 жыл бұрын
Most authentic: re-202 Most lush: Volante Best? I can’t decide between Volante and its richer more modern chorus vs the gentle warble of the 202
@micheleapicella10772 жыл бұрын
Brian Setzer Is a big re-201 user
@PMUP201629 күн бұрын
Most famous Space Echo user is Brian Setzer
@stanislavmigra2 жыл бұрын
I was little bit expecting the UAFX delay to appear in this shootout. Im not big delay user and in no market, for any of these unit. But anytime I hear Volante is like, yes, thats awesome. And Boss is like, meh, just another delay. Was expecting more (esp, I like all the demos of old tape Space echo).
@clydebillingsworth85742 жыл бұрын
I can DIY a space echo. No way I could build myself a volante or dl4. But I hate the enclosure of the dl4. So I guess to me it's worth it in my eyes to not want to throw my board in the bin every time I look down.
@Turbo-D2 жыл бұрын
same outcame as always, just BUY both 😂
@patricklow56522 жыл бұрын
I'm not high enough to decide which one I like best. I'll take a few more tokes off the ol' bong, watch the video again and let you guys know.
@antoonhermans89532 жыл бұрын
smoke em if you got it , if you ain't , you're gonna hit rock bottom : )
@arturflor2 жыл бұрын
I think the tape setting on Volante simulates an EP-3 machine, not a Space Echo machine.
@stratjed2 жыл бұрын
Space echo, Brian Setzer is the guy I think of.
@KidAdil2 жыл бұрын
yes
@justfunguitar15002 жыл бұрын
I have Volante and ocean 12
@OgamiItto702 жыл бұрын
So, what's Pete saying? The Strymon doesn't sound like a tape echo, it sounds like the Platonic _ideal_ of a tape echo? Whereas the RE-202 sounds more like an actual RE-201? Slightly off-topic, but: For a while I had a Strymon El Capistan D'Tape. I bought it because of all the good reviews of how much capability it had in replicating the sound of an Echoplex across the range of sounds that Echoplexes make and because of how many of my heroes had used Echoplexes on so many of my favorite recordings and their enthusiasm for the sound of the device. And I wasn't disappointed. It sounded fantastic. I felt like I had stumbled onto some secret cheat where you could own an Echoplex without all the hassles of owning an Echoplex--price, maintenance, ease of use, adjustability. So, my fellow guitarists (or other instrumentalists who wish to use delay), if _you_ want to get the sound of an Echoplex without the expense and other drawbacks of owing an Echoplex, I personally can highly recommend the Strymon El Capistan D'Tape. It'll do the job for you brilliantly. But I sold the Strymon on and got myself an old t.c. electronic Nova Delay instead. I realized that I didn't need to own the world's most accurate simulation of an Echoplex in pedal form, I just needed a good-sounding delay that had a goodly amount of on-the-fly versatility. Which is just about the very definition of the Nova Delay.
@jeffreyziemba55882 жыл бұрын
I used to use an ep-3 religiously for years. My most favorite delays were my memory man and ep-3, i liked my dm-2 also. The elcap for me has a cool vibe but got washed out live. Sounded like a reverb pedal. In todays day in age id bet most players haven’t played a real tape echo. The “tape echo” settings on reproductions of most newer stuff are set to be way more colorful and cut the highs more than a tape echo really did.
@seansabu3102 жыл бұрын
Watkins copicat is my fav. Also tc nova is the best pedal but the space echo is distinguished in it's deliverance and has the most girth I think the dl4 sounds amazing ran through an Alesis quadraverbs or reverb the volatane meh I don't like Strymon really
@michaelatwood69122 жыл бұрын
The reason Pete couldn't get the right Gilmour sound is because he isn't using a vintage Uni-Vibe
@BetterCallJamie2 жыл бұрын
If your using that pedal, we want to hear “mother”
@Magic_Man9162 жыл бұрын
Tell your children not to walk my way....
@BetterCallJamie2 жыл бұрын
@@Magic_Man916 "Where have you gone"
@KoaCharvel2 жыл бұрын
I have the Walrus Audio D1 V2 and it nails every delay I need. Though these bigger units look very sweet!
@隠れた2 жыл бұрын
Personally I really like the re-202 and the dl4 more than the volante, I have really been thinking about grabbing the boss and dl4 lately, I imagine I’ll have both soon
@station2station5442 жыл бұрын
RE-201 Brian Setzer.
@ArvidNielsen2 жыл бұрын
And then there’s practical application, where often stereo is not, really, what’s called for, as it’ll take up too much space in a mix, whether live or in the studio. But, of course, nice to have the option.
@musicrepairs2 жыл бұрын
Just not a line6 fan. I’ve ordered the re202
@RamonZarete2 жыл бұрын
Brian Setzer
@johnnolan43122 жыл бұрын
NUX has a new tape echo, sounds pretty good also
@phil.70642 жыл бұрын
I don't know why but I'm biased against strymon- maybe it's just too new- or too good
@pCeLobster2 жыл бұрын
I had that same bias at one point, but Strymon pedals are in fact a joy to play and use. They're a small company and all the sounds are designed by one guy.