Andre Iguodala & Evan Turner Go In On The 2017 Warriors vs. 1996 Bulls Debate

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Point Forward (with Andre Iguodala & Evan Turner)

Point Forward (with Andre Iguodala & Evan Turner)

Күн бұрын

Steph or MJ? Who ya got?
Andre Iguodala & Evan Turner deep dive on the full roster matchups that would comprise their take on which team would win between the 2017 Golden State Warriors (Klay Thompson, Kevin Durant, Steph Curry, Draymond Green, etc) & the 1996 Chicago Bulls (Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, etc) An insightful (and heated) debate.
The Point Forward podcast, hosted by former NBA teammates and current best friends Andre Iguodala and Evan Turner, uses basketball as a pretext to honestly and openly talk about business, culture, race, tech, and, yes, sports. Specifically, over the course of weekly hour-long episodes that drop on #pointforwardfriday, Iguodala and Turner, discuss and debate current national and global events in a way that is meant to resonate with everyone from the Silicon Valley elite to teenagers on the south side of Chicago.
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@jerome6897
@jerome6897 2 жыл бұрын
People can dissect and give take whatever they want but at the end of the day I wont pick against jordan's bulls because they did not lose, they always find a way to win.
@jovanjubert4046
@jovanjubert4046 Жыл бұрын
Always. It's literally a mental game. Jordan's mentality was ALL and there was no such thing as nothing. Where as LeBron was ALL but nothing was still an option.
@Billyitsangel2
@Billyitsangel2 Жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@tolitsmontero8764
@tolitsmontero8764 Жыл бұрын
Rodman on green 6'7" v 6'7" Scottie on durant 6'9" v 6'11" Harper on klay 6'6" v 6'5" Jordan on steph 6'6" v 6'5" Man to man D. Bulls player can guard the gsw player.. the question is who guard MJ on offense. 90s rules or rules now no one can guard MJ..
@railroadjesus49
@railroadjesus49 Жыл бұрын
Warriors were 16-1
@felipepineda1585
@felipepineda1585 Жыл бұрын
​@@railroadjesus49- and yet, they didn't play the Bulls!
@bikescarsandeverythinginbe7309
@bikescarsandeverythinginbe7309 Жыл бұрын
I guess they didn’t know that every team in the nba tried to do everything you would try and do to stop MJ. It just wasn’t possible.
@jordanngongo-qi9lo
@jordanngongo-qi9lo Жыл бұрын
They will never be another MJ,pipen,rodman,
@ImadogGarcia
@ImadogGarcia Жыл бұрын
The Pistons did a good job
@Kdsmoovedab
@Kdsmoovedab Жыл бұрын
Wayyyyyy more talent nowadays
@jaulj8
@jaulj8 Жыл бұрын
​@@ImadogGarcia For a while, then they got swept and that was it.
@jaulj8
@jaulj8 Жыл бұрын
​@cynkendricdonte1782 I don't really know what you mean by more talented. There are only 9 active players that are in the top 100 all-time leading scorers. Of the top 100 All-Time scorers 25 of played in or are from the Golden State Warriors or LeBron James era of basketball. The other 75 are from the Bulls era of basketball or older. This means that even with ALL the "more skilled" players you're claiming, they're still not putting a dent in the main or leading stat category. The only thing that has really changed is the shot selection and maybe the skill @ shooting that shot that is more preferred now which is the 3pt shot but that still has not created more prolific scorers. The last prolific scorers were Wilt Chamberlain and Michael Jordan. They are the only two top 10 all-time leading scorers that did not play 19 or 20 years in the NBA. Wilt played 14 years and Jordan played 15 years. They both also are the only 2 in the top 10 that played less than 1100 games all other players in the top 10 played 1200 or more games. The only active player that is threatening and probably will crack the top 10 in scoring in less than 1100 games is Kevin Durant. He sits at 13th all time right now with 986 games under his belt. That in and of itself shows that Durant is a, or rather, the prolific scorer of the Golden State Warriors and LeBron James era though he still will take more than 16 years to pass up Wilt and Jordan. The precedence I am trying to set is that with all this skill they got today it is taking them quite a lot of time to pass up the "plumbers" of yesterday since that's what they call them in this era AND they shoot the 3pt more and a lot better than the "plumbers." Really the only reason why most of them look like they're scoring more is they are just playing longer. Imagine if Wilt or Jordan played 19 or 20 years also. What kind of scoring conversation would we be having. Again I'm emphasizing the skill of scoring because that is what ultimately determines who wins the game. 1. LeBron James 2. Kevin Durant 3. James Harden 4. Russell Westbrook 5. Chris Paul 6. Stephen Curry 7. DeMar DeRozan 8. Damian Lillard 9. Rudy Gay These are the active 9 that are in the top 100 of scoring from greatest in points to the least. I suggest you look @ how many years they've been playing. Then possibly if you let go of your bias you'll realize that the players to today are not as great as they're making them out to be and to stop disrespecting the players sorry I mean "plumbers" of yesterday.💯🔥🔥🔥
@jamessanders5020
@jamessanders5020 Жыл бұрын
I'm glad these two are honest Bulls all day. If it was a finals game Bulls 4-2
@nordeguzman
@nordeguzman Жыл бұрын
If you double MJ with Rodman's defender, Rodman will pull down 20 offensive rebound & be among the top scorers
@datravelinman
@datravelinman Жыл бұрын
People tend to forget Rodman could shot the ball. Like he really could score. He did it in Detroit and from time to time did it on the Bulls.
@ktpbd2197
@ktpbd2197 Жыл бұрын
The fact is rodman can score too😅
@JadenGregg-su9no
@JadenGregg-su9no Жыл бұрын
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@carlosdias3959
@carlosdias3959 9 ай бұрын
Even better, double Mj and leave Kerr open for 3 all day haha. Kerr would drop 50
@phillipschuman4307
@phillipschuman4307 6 ай бұрын
@@datravelinman He never had more than 23 in any game in the playoffs, and he only got to 23 in one season. The most he had in any playoff game with Chicago was 15, and reached that in only one post-season.
@markbrown4362
@markbrown4362 Жыл бұрын
Bulls for me in this Era no hand checking or any other of the old rules in place jordan and pippin would go crazy. Even kukoc would have a field day.
@blaquesheepgaming7445
@blaquesheepgaming7445 Жыл бұрын
Exactly. KUKOC GETS A MASSIVE GLOW UP!!!!
@dreday7507
@dreday7507 Жыл бұрын
Facts!!!
@docallentv
@docallentv Жыл бұрын
He would be something similar to Lamar Odom. Maybe better with these rules
@crookedsoja
@crookedsoja Жыл бұрын
Idk why it's so hard to understand that
@JadenGregg-su9no
@JadenGregg-su9no Жыл бұрын
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@karl35932
@karl35932 Жыл бұрын
I love Evan Turners take. REAL TALK. LOGICAL THINKING
@aaronahchee7484
@aaronahchee7484 Жыл бұрын
Bulls had the best backcourt and wing defenders of all time. It would be a great series. Down the clutch though I got MJ, no one is athletic or physical enough to stop him
@mlungisinkambule8866
@mlungisinkambule8866 Жыл бұрын
You're right I don't see anyone locking down Mike and that's where the difference lies for me
@JadenGregg-su9no
@JadenGregg-su9no Жыл бұрын
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@micci9865
@micci9865 Жыл бұрын
No hand checking, Free flowing Ron Harper, Michael Jordan, Scottie Pippen, Toni Kukoc and Dennis Rodman. Man, just imagine MJ and Toni today.
@jwick1215
@jwick1215 Жыл бұрын
Omg it would be a massacre! Bulls sweep or it goes 4-1
@Oohesgotadirtymouth
@Oohesgotadirtymouth Жыл бұрын
PIPPEN WAS BETTER THEN KUKUC
@jaylonsadler5641
@jaylonsadler5641 Жыл бұрын
@@jwick1215 nah warriors sweeping shit
@jwick1215
@jwick1215 Жыл бұрын
@@jaylonsadler5641 you must not have ever watched basketball with a comment like that, but I get your loyalty
@JadenGregg-su9no
@JadenGregg-su9no Жыл бұрын
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@JayZone23
@JayZone23 2 жыл бұрын
I think it is a bad idea to double team off of Rodman or Harper. MJ has already shown he can regularly neutralize double teams. Playing off of Rodman can only lead to more offensive rebounds for chicago and Harper has been a 20 point average scorer before he joined the bulls. There are 3 parts in a basketball game. Offense, defense and rebounding. 96 Bulls has the advantage in 2 of those 3. Warriors may be better on offense but the Bulls has MJ, probably and arguably the best scorer of all time. Steph used to struggle with physical defense until this past season. His improve strength made him able to handle the celtics physicality which was not the case in 2017. KD struggles with double team and physicality. they bring up PJ Tucker here but PJ is only 6'5. Rodman and Pippen were 6'8 to 6'9. Jordan would probably be on Steph, in 1998 MJ has shown he can navigate through screens as he was trying to defend Reggie Miller.
@dustfid
@dustfid Жыл бұрын
Rodman is 6'6 and Pippen is 6'8.* The better argument is Rodman and Pippen are two of the top defensive forwards all-time who can lock up multiple positions and switch between Steph and KD. Jordan can guard Klay and Harper will guard Draymond. The Bulls had four superior defenders and a big body center in the middle with Longley/Wennington or they can go small ball for Kukoc and just run the break and be aggressive on offense.
@lazarsimovic4089
@lazarsimovic4089 Жыл бұрын
yup i bellive that bulls win not only they are the grater team but also a better one starting five as well as the bench dont get me wrong gsw was amazing but those bulls match up pretty well with them if u want anyone to try to stop kd rodman and pippen are collectivly caould at very least slow kd down and make him have bad shooting nights they were that good and for steph u would have jordan and harper they would make it real tough for them on the other hand no one is guarding mj and rodman dominates the boards easy bcz there is no real big in the paint even if it was hes outrebounding him too
@JadenGregg-su9no
@JadenGregg-su9no Жыл бұрын
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@mcdiesel7505
@mcdiesel7505 11 ай бұрын
@@dustfid Sounds good but the Warriors spread the floor by shooting so well, Igs is a great defender and has offensive as well, pic and roll the bulls to death! GSW could also play zone! GSW are going to shoot 20 plus 3s more than the Bulls so it's just going to be difficult for 2s from the Bulls to outrun 3s from GSW! 3 of the top 10 shooters of all time with the top 2 in Klay and Curry. Defense is different now, you can guard space and cheat which you couldn't do in the 90s. Pick and roll the center and power forwards to death and get wide open shots!! GSW all day!!
@dangerzone3470
@dangerzone3470 2 жыл бұрын
Andre’s ability to keep it real and how cerebral he can be combined with Evans goofy responses and being low key smart makes for a great pod 👍
@pointforward
@pointforward Жыл бұрын
We appreciate that
@JadenGregg-su9no
@JadenGregg-su9no Жыл бұрын
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@Bob-te3le
@Bob-te3le 7 ай бұрын
He didn't keep it real though. He picked the 2012 dream team over the 1992 dream team. 😂
@dangerzone3470
@dangerzone3470 7 ай бұрын
@@Bob-te3leKobe, Lebron, and KD on the same team? Magic and Larry were at the end of their careers 😬 I might have to lean 2012 but wtf do I know that’s tough lol
@MarkoRabin
@MarkoRabin 2 жыл бұрын
Great debate but they don't know Tony is one of the best players EVER to come from Europe, Galinari is just a good player. Tony was super clutch!
@bryanrefuerzo9114
@bryanrefuerzo9114 2 жыл бұрын
“He still held KD to 50” GOATED QUOTE
@joelopez5982
@joelopez5982 Жыл бұрын
You caught that too ...obviously before me. He literally said "he held KD to 50" 😅😅😅
@JadenGregg-su9no
@JadenGregg-su9no Жыл бұрын
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@knowjc35
@knowjc35 Жыл бұрын
Great discussion guys! It's always refreshing hearing these debates coming from real NBA players - always the best insight that people who've never played won't know about.
@christineveneracion9201
@christineveneracion9201 2 жыл бұрын
I just subscribed to your channel. I'm loving how you respect MJ. Hail Air Jordan! Good luck to your show and more power! Love lots to @Andre ❤
@25nomind
@25nomind 2 жыл бұрын
Tony Kukoc would be sick in today's NBA. His passing and shotting at his size, an easy 20 8 8 guy. Borderline all star. Way better then Gallinari(tbf injuries have really hurt his career).
@MR_M0RNINGSTAR
@MR_M0RNINGSTAR 2 жыл бұрын
He can play point too. And he is 6"10 6"11 guy. Like bulls are dynasty. Their players are stars in their own positions. Like look at rodman, look at kerr.
@Alejandrito2332
@Alejandrito2332 2 жыл бұрын
To me, the only mistake of this conversation is the sentence "Kukoc would be a Gallinari of this time". No way. Kukoc was faaaaar waaaayyy better than Gallo. Kukoc was a winner on Europe, a winner with his national team and a winner in the NBA. Today, Kukoc would be scary monster of stats.
@rvnpgrvnpg4395
@rvnpgrvnpg4395 Жыл бұрын
Borderline all star? 🤦‍♂️ Kukoc is a lot better half of all stars this past years.
@dextercustodio1276
@dextercustodio1276 Жыл бұрын
Kukoc would be Doncic on coke without the flop
@spideyaes849
@spideyaes849 Жыл бұрын
You do realize Kukoc is HOFer?? How do you think he got there??
@menacemc
@menacemc Жыл бұрын
Just remember what Kobe said. Jordan and Pippen was just relentless on defense. Warriors are a great team BUT never went up against a team that's great on DEFENSE and OFFENSE. Bulls bench was looong too. Now, you say let Jordan get what he gets....that could unfortunately be 40avg like in 93, and especially with todays rules...he has a clear lane...prime Jordan in todays rules would literally be unfair.
@christianmorgan5956
@christianmorgan5956 Жыл бұрын
Not to mention the 2018 Rockets almost beat Golden State
@gabrielalele8603
@gabrielalele8603 Жыл бұрын
ALLFacts
@richardtrevino5516
@richardtrevino5516 Жыл бұрын
Yes that bulls team could win games at over 100 points or one that was on the 90’s cause of there defense
@jaylonsadler5641
@jaylonsadler5641 Жыл бұрын
@@christianmorgan5956the rockets better than the bulls what
@Sgoldensr
@Sgoldensr 2 жыл бұрын
It would come down to the benches for each squad and the mj factor....mj in basketball 🏀 is like Tom Brady in football 🏈...it's hard to bet against them....that is why they the goats 🐐 of there sport!! 💯 #BullsIn6
@Chuck_A_Luck_Stank
@Chuck_A_Luck_Stank 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.. An honest measure.. I usually don't dig the debate bc most of em ain't logical but emotional.. this was at least an interesting convo 🤌🏾
@GSheltonJr
@GSheltonJr 2 жыл бұрын
Andre saying what we really believe about certain players on the court 😂
@gabrielhampton6483
@gabrielhampton6483 Жыл бұрын
Very intelligent PODCAST!!! Thanks guys!!!
@neldennis2193
@neldennis2193 Жыл бұрын
its not about whos guarding who..its all about consistencies..the 2023 just showed us..mj will have a shooting practice with the modern rules..if you give mj a small space he will take a jumper..i dont know why they always miss that aspect of mjs game..
@xaviersanchez299
@xaviersanchez299 Жыл бұрын
Pippen and Jordan are the best perimeter defenders ever. Rodman one of the greatest defender and rebounder of all time. Harper was no slouch in defense neither. Jordan claiming curry, Pippen frustrating KD, Harper containing Klay, Rodman clamping Draymond. The warriors don’t have the defense to stop the bulls triangle offense. Bulls in 6 and only because the bulls players partied the night before games.
@mcdiesel7505
@mcdiesel7505 11 ай бұрын
MJ struggles against quick guards so guarding Curry isn't going to work for him! Chris Jackson, Allen Iverson both would cooked MJ, Pip had to guard those players. NBA skills are to great, 2017 shooting more 3s while Bulls are shooting 2s. No chance!
@roboninja3194
@roboninja3194 10 ай бұрын
@@mcdiesel7505 Who would Steph guard? Whether Jordan, Ron Harper, or Pippen he's getting cooked. All 3 of em would back Steph down and post him up over and over. All 3 would shoot over Steph easily. On offense Steph would get some shots but he'd be doing a lot of running around to get free while being guarded by bigger players. And on defense he'd be worn out.
@mcdiesel7505
@mcdiesel7505 10 ай бұрын
@@roboninja3194 You obviously don't understand basketball, they could go zone. Steph is not guarding none of those guys. KD, Dray, 2 way Klay, Iggy will be the 4 guarding that 4. Curry is cooking Kerr buddy!
@genxfusion
@genxfusion 7 ай бұрын
@@roboninja3194 Granted Steph can only be matched up against Harper. But to say he'd be worn out, you do not know Steph's workout regiment. It's legendary. He won't be worn out. And his moves off the ball would give any defender fits because they'd have to account for him even without the ball. I'm not saying the Warriors would win hands down. I'm saying any of these 2 teams could beat each other in 7 game finals. I'd give the slight edge to Jordan's Bulls cuz of Jordan alone. But they never had to guard the star power of Curry, KD and Thompson when it comes to their movement and their ability to shoot. And this Warriors defense is nothing to sneeze at either. They were # 2 overall in the Playoffs. Their 16-1 Playoff record is the best in NBA history. It would be a great series no doubt.
@joshuaofili2408
@joshuaofili2408 5 ай бұрын
Klay is torching Harper lol
@soeradjnarain341
@soeradjnarain341 Жыл бұрын
That Bulls team was ridiculous good. Who in their right minds would bet against Jordan in a Final? MJ would have no problem to even guard Curry if he needed to. Mano a mano and trust me, Curry would not come out victorious.. Pippen on KD, Rodman on Green, Kukoc on Iguadaba. Game over
@saidsharif1
@saidsharif1 2 жыл бұрын
This is high level hoops convo
@EbbyAgu
@EbbyAgu 2 жыл бұрын
Great Debate..... Taking the Warriors and Im a huge 90's Bulls fan... The Warriors motion offense with Steph, Klay and KD, who can all hit 7/8 threes, that will be the difference. Lebron had 51 in Game 1 and the Cavs still Lost,... JUST SAYING... Iggy is right Stop the others Let Jordan score all he wants..... 3 or more than 2. Its still a team game!
@parkermudsen1063
@parkermudsen1063 Жыл бұрын
You’re not Bulls fan. We don’t believe you. Just knowing that MJ, Pippen, Rodman, and Ron Harper can all tightly guard the perimeter and switch off with each other let’s us know that the Warriors would have to work extremely hard for their shots.
@elijahwood6299
@elijahwood6299 Жыл бұрын
@@parkermudsen1063gotta take into account the rules changes and the amount of illegal screens GSW has been getting away with for years
@engenecarmelopickens8540
@engenecarmelopickens8540 Жыл бұрын
People really don't how Good Scottie Pippen was MJ was the best player on the court Scottie was the second best player real talk and that's the reason they was that good
@WeKnowTheDifference
@WeKnowTheDifference Жыл бұрын
@@parkermudsen1063 my sentiments exactly. He doesn't know basketball with that opinion. This is a Phil Jackson coached team. Adjustments will be made when needed dog.
@BizznessMinded
@BizznessMinded Жыл бұрын
Ron Harper was a perennial allstar that shot better than Pippen before he joined the Bulls. Tony Cucoch was a really good shooter as well. And Scottie by 96 was a good shooter to. The difference is the defensive pressure. Guys from this are know little about real physical Defense. They can't apply it and definitely couldn't deal with it. Dennis held a prime Shaq mote than once to very low scoring. Holding KD would be easier plus he was a masyer at getting in your head with mind games. The warriors had a roster full of talented shooters that have thrived in the soft era of defense. The Bulls were sharpened in the toughest defensive era of the league. It wouldn't even be close. 4-2 if the Bulls slacked up a couole games. Remember, they swept a prime Shaq and Penny. Even their coach (Steve Kerr) said it.
@engenecarmelopickens8540
@engenecarmelopickens8540 Жыл бұрын
Ron Harper was no joke that is the sleeper dude was scorer real talk
@JadenGregg-su9no
@JadenGregg-su9no Жыл бұрын
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@LamarcusMassey-eo1lp
@LamarcusMassey-eo1lp 8 ай бұрын
With Cavs
@engenecarmelopickens8540
@engenecarmelopickens8540 8 ай бұрын
Everybody always underestimate Ron bro look it up he was the difference in a lot of games MJ didn't have a good game ever and Tony was no joke neither
@LamarcusMassey-eo1lp
@LamarcusMassey-eo1lp 8 ай бұрын
Also
@dracula7644
@dracula7644 Жыл бұрын
Ron Harper could score. He just changed his game. Filling the role on the bulls.
@zenithzeitgeist7489
@zenithzeitgeist7489 Жыл бұрын
Hell, even Rodman could score if he wanted.
@jasonjamieson1690
@jasonjamieson1690 Жыл бұрын
You don't want Steph on Ron Harper. Ron would be a problem.
@Lovechie4life
@Lovechie4life Жыл бұрын
@@jasonjamieson1690 Bulls don't need to play 1 on 1. They can switch from 1 to 5 with Buechler or Toni. GSW doesn't have players that penetrates.Their style of play evolves around pick and pop or roll. They'll just force them to play iso with kills teams momentum.
@jasonjamieson1690
@jasonjamieson1690 Жыл бұрын
@Lovechie4life That's true, but that wasn't the point being made. We're talking about Ron Harper scoring, and Steph is not able to guard him.
@Lovechie4life
@Lovechie4life Жыл бұрын
@@jasonjamieson1690 Curry don't even have all team defense on his resume. Yes, Ron will eat on Curry's watch.
@RealMrGreenTeaLatte
@RealMrGreenTeaLatte 2 жыл бұрын
Totally agree pippin wouldn’t guard KD. Rodman would be wasted to guard Draymond. MJ guarding Steph through. You know he’s picking on the smaller player. But the disrespect to Ron Harper. Ouch.
@Patriot2332
@Patriot2332 Жыл бұрын
The bulls won back to back 3 peats in arguably the hardest Era othe than the 80s. They never went to a game 7 even in 98 when they were the oldest team in the NBA and they were the underdogs. The Bulls win it in 5 maybe 6 games, they were too good
@ThePoker215
@ThePoker215 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to hear actual thought in this hypothetical
@henryasokan3503
@henryasokan3503 2 жыл бұрын
THIS MAN DID NOT JUST SAY U CANT HAVE 2 WHITE GUYS ON DEFENCE XDDDDDD
@bjamminsincebirth3494
@bjamminsincebirth3494 2 жыл бұрын
I would be in Pippen’s head about his bad contract. Then I would distract Rodman with other stuff. 😂
@OmarsChannel661
@OmarsChannel661 2 жыл бұрын
distract rodman with girls
@CommonNotCommon24-7
@CommonNotCommon24-7 2 жыл бұрын
Iggy a real 1. I'm sure GSW fans mad he picked Jordan's Bulls over his 2017 team
@chezzlito
@chezzlito 2 жыл бұрын
Nah he’s not wrong at all, our squad tends to have problems with bucket-getters and no one was as great at that as Michael Jefferey Jordan. Plus we have trouble w/ physicality & athleticism (‘19 Raptors, ‘22 Grizzlies, etc.) and MJ/Pip/Harper/Rodman were some dogs, picking up full court and everything. Couple that w/ the triangle system, a generational bench piece in Kukoc and you have arguably the only team in NBA history I’ll willingly admit could beat that ‘17 Dubs team….
@brianzhou171
@brianzhou171 2 жыл бұрын
Jordan ain't not God... He's a regular person ...
@jaylonsadler5641
@jaylonsadler5641 Жыл бұрын
@@chezzlito 22 grizzly we beat and 19 raptors we was hurt and almost forced a game 7 and kuckoc not making no difference
@alrice2012
@alrice2012 Жыл бұрын
@@brianzhou171 ain’t not talk 😂☠️
@pmoney6145
@pmoney6145 2 жыл бұрын
the bulls were 2 big for the Warriors and they had 3 of the top 10 defenders of all time and you could double or triple Mj it wouldn't matter he would find thrvopen player for easy shots bulls in 5
@jaylonsadler5641
@jaylonsadler5641 Жыл бұрын
They were not that big of a team and we double mj who gonna score
@saltymonkey8874
@saltymonkey8874 Жыл бұрын
​@@jaylonsadler5641The double teams won't stop Jordan. Jordan never wasted time with the basketball.
@mikehamack6347
@mikehamack6347 11 ай бұрын
​@@jaylonsadler5641they were still way bigger than the midget warriors
@elijahwood6299
@elijahwood6299 Жыл бұрын
I like Iggys take on defense.. Scottie on Steph.. Dennis on KD .. MJ on dray and Harper on Klay
@bordzd.128
@bordzd.128 Жыл бұрын
Kukoc is not Gallinari, Toni is a point forward, he has handles & court vision of a point guard
@Truthbomb123
@Truthbomb123 Жыл бұрын
This is some high level breakdown by players that know the triangle offense. The difference maker is defense and if the bulls start harper, Jordan, pippen, Rodman and Kukoc that's a wrap. Yes the rules, pace, science and all that play a factor, but defense isn't close
@rhycnnms239
@rhycnnms239 Жыл бұрын
4-0 Bulls 90s rules. 4-1 Bulls today's rules.
@MichaelLudden
@MichaelLudden 2 жыл бұрын
But who would Steve Kerr put on Steve Kerr?
@jeremiahscott9434
@jeremiahscott9434 Жыл бұрын
Andre pick the 2012 Over the 1992 dream team! Why do I waste my time with this bs
@crossphaded
@crossphaded 2 жыл бұрын
90s rules... Bulls in 6. 2010 rules...7 games, it's a toss up.
@kevben706
@kevben706 2 жыл бұрын
Rules not gonna matter rules don't stop the warriors from shooting.
@pakyo2x
@pakyo2x 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevben706 thats what you think, but how can they shoot if they are guarded by the best defenders?
@thenorthremembers728
@thenorthremembers728 Жыл бұрын
​@dnbr vinsmoke they were getting cooked by abdul rauf sorry but none of them are staying in front of Steph.
@annacanangdaemonyu7456
@annacanangdaemonyu7456 Жыл бұрын
@@kevben706 if the warriors shoot 50% every game then it's a chip for them but below that, Bulls will just bully them in the paint and freethrows.
@annacanangdaemonyu7456
@annacanangdaemonyu7456 Жыл бұрын
@@thenorthremembers728 if Steph will be consistent and shoot 50% then Bulls lose, but if not, Bulls will use the rules today as an advantage and drive all day with and one and warriors don't have an answer to that because kerr is not coaching them fro sure
@Chowzah
@Chowzah Жыл бұрын
This podcast is 🔥
@chriscraft4523
@chriscraft4523 Жыл бұрын
Tight defense and hand checking changes everything. It keeps defenders closer both on and off the ball. The free flowing game style of today makes for easy drives and open looks all day; by 80/90s rules everything is contested and splash bros grind to a halt like they did against an amped cavs team playing their asses off in 2016. Add hand checking to inspired defense and warriors are frustrated, out of rhythm and losing their luster every trip up the court. Then they have to defend against MJ and a cohesive battle tested bulls squad on the other end. Warriors have no chance with all the physicality at play. I don’t think modern NBA fans understand how much the game changes when someone has their hand on your hip the whole time. You can play closer without getting burned by a drive and also contest shooting/3 ball. The rules were changed for the benefit of scoring; it’s never been easier to score and get comfortable with your long range game. The comparison cannot be without considering how each team would adapt to the rules/style of play.
@sumandsubstance7881
@sumandsubstance7881 Жыл бұрын
Listening to Andre, he has a bright basketball mind. He thinks about matchups like a coach
@Billyitsangel2
@Billyitsangel2 Жыл бұрын
You damn right the 96 bulls would have given them problems they would lose every game in any generation.
@mcdiesel7505
@mcdiesel7505 11 ай бұрын
Pip was 6'7" and Rodman was 6'8" at best but most claimed he was 6'7".
@togstags1286
@togstags1286 Жыл бұрын
GSW was a half-court set team.... the 96 bulls was one of the most lethal half-court defending team in the history of the league... people don't realize that the 96 bulls was built to play in today's modern NBA.... MJ, pip, dennis, and ron can switch up in defense... that's 3 nba all-defense and a 6'6 bulldog on defense... toni can shoot lights out, steve was still the most accurate 3-p shooter in the history... wennington and longley are centers who can also shoot mid-range shots... if toni played in today's NBA, he will be like a slightly lower version of KD with better passing.....
@ayres1009
@ayres1009 Жыл бұрын
90’s rules Bulls in 5. Todays game Bulls in 6.
@melvinwalls1426
@melvinwalls1426 Жыл бұрын
Everybody know that life evolves so do players with time* you can't compare the present to back then*MJ was differences Maker in any era*
@spicydoodlesoup
@spicydoodlesoup Жыл бұрын
Once Draymond says something snarky in the press, MJ will take it personal, and then it’s over… also Steve Kerr the coach is gonna go soft on his younger self.
@saltymonkey8874
@saltymonkey8874 Жыл бұрын
Draymond would definitely run his mouth and that would be the end of the series.
@MR_M0RNINGSTAR
@MR_M0RNINGSTAR 2 жыл бұрын
I played with the 1996 bulls in 2k, man, they are different like their first 5 can literary switch 5 positions. Like harper, jordan, pippen, rodman and longley. And if they replace longley with kukoc, man its over.
@carlpolych9717
@carlpolych9717 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that more people don't recognize the 96 Bulls were built for today's game. That Bulls team would win 9 out of 10 times all day.
@davidgreen330
@davidgreen330 Жыл бұрын
You need to add into the conversation the very early Showtime Lakers
@ttl53va48
@ttl53va48 Жыл бұрын
Y’all realize they keep Saying the Kd warriors why not the 73-9 vs 92-10 bulls ! 😂😂 y’all already know the bulls will wash them cmon y’all ! It don’t matter the rules straight ball the Bulls beating the Kd team and washing the 73-9 warriors . Bulls in 5 if we being honest
@chaboing40
@chaboing40 Жыл бұрын
Great take…Scottie on Steph.
@jdub4670
@jdub4670 2 жыл бұрын
This is the clip that made me hit subscribe.
@ronaldbryant7710
@ronaldbryant7710 2 жыл бұрын
They entire team would give you guys a problem, it would not even be close.
@theoneandonlykyle9800
@theoneandonlykyle9800 Жыл бұрын
🤣 facts it would be a massacre brutal
@Norma1250
@Norma1250 Жыл бұрын
This man said "MJ will get his 50" like thats just normal and the sad thing is IT IS 😳 🐐 😮
@Yyxqq123
@Yyxqq123 2 жыл бұрын
When you do comparison between teams you can’t say if they had today’s skills..
@williamshereef2755
@williamshereef2755 11 ай бұрын
1996 Bulls would dominate the 2017 Warriors
@WhoInfluencedYou
@WhoInfluencedYou Жыл бұрын
Rodman vs Draymond = Must See TV!
@ThrifterGuy
@ThrifterGuy Жыл бұрын
KD is the secret weapon. Because Stephen and Klay can shoot so well it gave KD so much room to work. And I disagree I'm putting Pippen on KD, Jordan on Steph, Ron Harper on Klay. And Rodman on Draymond. If KD lights up Scotty I would switch Rodman on him. Man that would be such a good game.
@messityler4121
@messityler4121 8 ай бұрын
one thing for sure, dennis rodman will be sent out early, probably from tech or flagrant foul (given that he is dennis rodman and will not change the way he plays and still play with that 90s style)
@mattmyers325
@mattmyers325 2 жыл бұрын
Best breakdown
@Ray-gd3zo
@Ray-gd3zo Жыл бұрын
Iggy crazy Toni would be luka right now
@electric8668
@electric8668 Жыл бұрын
Kukoc was 6'11 and Jordan is a problem for any team.
@syntaxghost3547
@syntaxghost3547 Жыл бұрын
With todays rules, who can stop Jordan if he plays 2023 rules. Imagine you can’t touch Jordan.
@bigkw1568
@bigkw1568 Жыл бұрын
There is no debate ... With this modern cupcake Defense, The Bulls would destroy the Warriors
@smittysmith6546
@smittysmith6546 2 жыл бұрын
I don’t think the bulls would keep up with the pace of play. But the physicality of the bulls would wear on the warriors over the series. So i give the nod to the bulls over a series. But one game. I think it’s a honest toss up. Steph is a different guy. KD is different, and clay steady running off the ball 6’6 pulling it no dribble. Straight catch and shoot.
@sroland3533
@sroland3533 Жыл бұрын
This is all True but they wud have problems with MJ, Pippen, Rodman, Kukoc & Harper make it worse if coach allows Kukoc to play Point Guard as he did in Europe then we still had Kerr Buechler & Longley who cud shoot the long ball so hey their hands wud be full.
@charlietan9623
@charlietan9623 Жыл бұрын
Just remember mj is a psycho... if you tell him that bulls cant keep the pace against warriors.. he will make you pay..
@Dads1stTime
@Dads1stTime Жыл бұрын
All great teams adapt. That's what made them great
@Billyitsangel2
@Billyitsangel2 Жыл бұрын
The pace of today's game? The pace in the 90's was way faster. Watch some MJ highlights, today's guys look like they are in slow motion compared to them.
@somersetbassett4580
@somersetbassett4580 2 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see it !
@mitchellpatrice
@mitchellpatrice 2 жыл бұрын
Hey ET get an organizer for all your shoes it’s distracting seeing them in the background! I’m still taking the 2017 Warriors!
@Saxandfifths
@Saxandfifths 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe don't pay attention to the background, though?? What? 😂
@MEezi
@MEezi Жыл бұрын
Kukoc was what Luka is now. He was a 6'10 Pure shooting Point Guard But him being Galanari? Nah...
@russh7914
@russh7914 2 жыл бұрын
Rodman on K.D., Pippen on Steph, Jordan on Klay. Bulls win
@geekhan559
@geekhan559 Жыл бұрын
Bulls all Day Everyday, even the 92 dream team takes down any team the Warriors have
@GETmeHOPS
@GETmeHOPS Жыл бұрын
Do this with more teams
@darnellwillingham6883
@darnellwillingham6883 Жыл бұрын
Love warriors but bulls sweeping warriors
@josearias2671
@josearias2671 Жыл бұрын
Doesn’t matter what era they’ll playing the game. Bulls would sweep
@jaylonsadler5641
@jaylonsadler5641 Жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂stop doing drugs
@JackTse
@JackTse 2 жыл бұрын
i take MJ individually ... but i take the Dubs as a team
@pakyo2x
@pakyo2x 2 жыл бұрын
Yet get a lose on that season. Mj team didnt choke. They always dominate.
@ritchierich6133
@ritchierich6133 Жыл бұрын
I like Rodman on KD. Rodman would slow him down. Rodman was so versatile, and strong as hell. plus I think Rodman would get under KDs skin. he would keep kds numbers down. now that's playing by 90's rules, today is a whole different ball game, Rodman would probably foul out by half time. lol. I think they are underestimating Kukoc. he was great. great shooter, could handle the ball and if they play him at point instead of Pippen, that would be a hard match up. I think steph would give the bulls some trouble, hes great off the ball and got a quick shot, especially today's rules, 90's rules being more physical, they could slow steph down but I think he'd still put up some numbers.
@LMAO-hh6ow
@LMAO-hh6ow Жыл бұрын
96 Bulls have the same offensive rating as the 16 Warriors even with no 3 point gameplay. On the other hand, the Bulls have the best defensive rating. So no, Warriors will not cook them with 3's. lol
@A-Non68
@A-Non68 Жыл бұрын
Common, javalle vs longley? Remember the best centers are playing during 90’s and still he hold his ground
@DukeTheCaneCorsoBully
@DukeTheCaneCorsoBully 2 жыл бұрын
“you see one of them on the court you know my theory on them and how i feel about them” 😂😂😭😭
@chinacrash22
@chinacrash22 Жыл бұрын
Clamping Draymond Green is one significant key because he is the facilitator. How would steph and klay score without DG? Rodman would be dismantling DG for sure. Then that’s it.
@crookedsoja
@crookedsoja Жыл бұрын
1 through 4 on the bulls are great defensive players
@stewylow3107
@stewylow3107 Жыл бұрын
That don’t put two white guys on the court against us had me dead
@hainavidotcom
@hainavidotcom Жыл бұрын
If he said the other way around they would be blacklisted and shamed...smh
@Tjc16
@Tjc16 2 жыл бұрын
Funny how most ppl feel the warriors would just destroy the bulls sweeping or gentlemen sweep them but yet the Houston rockets with Chris Paul and James harden almost eliminated the warriors had Chris Paul never got hurt in that series and that series went 7 ain’t no way ya think that Houston team better than the 96 bulls team
@dragondragon5437
@dragondragon5437 Жыл бұрын
Same for Bulls Reggie Miller win 3game vs Bulls ONE STAR who is Klay with bad defense..Houston was no joke they can score 120ppg vs any team many 3
@jayh4911
@jayh4911 Жыл бұрын
Evan Turner sounds like "Meat wad" from Aqua teen hunger force 😂😂😂
@brianzhou171
@brianzhou171 2 жыл бұрын
Curry.kd..klay.. too much for Jordan..Jordan ain't in his prime in 96.. he was slowing down..the early 90s bulls would give the 17 warriors a tougher matchup
@ajsavage9585
@ajsavage9585 Жыл бұрын
Remember Harper was a 20plus guard in Cleveland, KD and Pip would be a wash because Pip has length to guard him, Dremond would be in foul trouble the whole series if he was not suspended for a game or two, Kukoc would be in double digits, Kerr would get his usual in as would Buchler, and MJ would average 35 in the old era. In the new era the bulls would average over 100 pound per game if not 110 or 120
@aaronhumphries2100
@aaronhumphries2100 Жыл бұрын
Pip can check Steph KD...and Klay....Rodman on LB
@titotonton1999
@titotonton1999 Жыл бұрын
iggy is on point to match up kd to dennis but they dont know how many antics and bullshitting dennis can do to kd 🤦🤦 im imagining kd throwing punches to dennis after a quarter 🤣🤣
@chezzlito
@chezzlito 2 жыл бұрын
ET goin off pure emotion rn😭
@csas80
@csas80 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry I grew up watching MJ and Bulls. That 96 Bulls were monsters. My sin and I watch Steph and Golden State. Yes, Stephs team is a great team, a dynasty team. I don't think they could have handled the depth of 96 Bulls. Rodman would throw Draymond around like a rag doll. They could double MJ, but he would still get 40+ on them. Back then there weren't flagrant 1, and 2s. They hand checked, Bulls were in a way more physical Era. I just don't think Golden State would be able to handle the physicality.
@csas80
@csas80 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion, it would be like Jordan vs Bad boy Pistons. Bad Boys would just throw people on the floor.
@sxlx
@sxlx Жыл бұрын
Andre you have no idea how good the Warriors are ;)
@DeeDee-li7cu
@DeeDee-li7cu 9 ай бұрын
Klay on MJ...50
@richardtrevino5516
@richardtrevino5516 Жыл бұрын
Bulls would beat them !in what ever era
@Lucas-tw1wx
@Lucas-tw1wx 2 ай бұрын
Ron Harper Steph Curry Michael Jordan Klay Thompson Scottie Pippen Kevin Durant Dennis Rodman Draymond Green Luc Longely Kevon Looney
@ej4346
@ej4346 Жыл бұрын
Not a good idea to double off Rodman, dude got crazy high IQ. He ain't gonna hang around. There be teams who had Rodman hounded, and he don't even shoot. Coz they know you leave him, he gonna get 20 offensive rebounds.
@uribemariomorenoable
@uribemariomorenoable 2 жыл бұрын
Thinking about this just gave me a headache
@kareemblackston2049
@kareemblackston2049 2 жыл бұрын
You double off dennis he's going straight to the offense boards
@dammardunbar7883
@dammardunbar7883 11 ай бұрын
Don’t forget about Randy brown on Steph he was definitely a great defender
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