Andrew Doyle | I'm Not Exaggerating The Problem | Modern Wisdom Podcast 232

[@ChrisWillx]

After all my confidence on never being popped by KZbin... this episode has been demonetised 🤦🏻‍♂️ If you’d be so kind - hit SUBSCRIBE instead and it would make me very happy. Love you all 💜

[@vinnyhogan7851]

Very rapidly become one of my top 3 favourite podcasts, alongside JRE & The Daily Swole. Keep up the good work.

[@Rodzilla5332]

Susan doesn’t like your arrogance. You have been wikiwiki’d.

[@CsImre]

I'm suprised that you've not been demonetized until now. Any non-woke political content gets popped.

[@johndutchman]

Congrats! Wear this like a badge!

[@ordeithx]

You catch the most flak when you are directly over the target.

[@randyosborne310]

Here in America, 60 years of Affirmative Action is the root of the problem. Self pity and imagining everyone else is the villain is getting out of control.

[@freezo244]

SO TRUE! And I see that idea extended to my low income high school where fellow (white) teachers ENABLE students to the point where 11th graders CAN BARELY READ yet (white) teachers bend over backwards to help them get into college. SMH

[@nnotny]

Conservative blacks are accused of being self-hating blacks. By all the self-pitying blacks.

[@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293]

Great comment, you're so right.

[@ordeithx]

@@freezo244 this will all be documented as how a massive society crumbles under it's own weight.

[@wearemany73]

“Affirmative Action” IS the only form of institutionalised racism I’ve been able to fully identify.

[@richardwills-woodward]

I'm exhausted with it all. I get 'Wokeness' served up with my tea or coffee, my train, companies, tv (which I don't watch anymore), public realm, just everywhere. It's a miserable life frankly.

[@ziyanlau7680]

Yes, it's like a totally joyless puritanican religion

[@richardwills-woodward]

@@ziyanlau7680 I actually had a dream two nights ago, where everything was dark, with black brick walls with what looked like railway arches and soot-covered walls behind me. I was standing in a doorway and thousands of people were walking in lines (like a military parade) but looking straight ahead. I was shouting at them "you're going the wrong way" but they did not flinch, not acknowledge me at all, and in the distance was fire and what I deemed to be gas chambers and some sort of death camp. It was horrific but I have no doubt it was a metaphor based on my own experiences at the moment in waking life! This is how it feels. I feel like I am alone in not being programmed this way where I live. Needless to say, I am leaving London next year for North Yorkshire. Clearly all this is not good for my sanity.

[@crazywazydoublehazy]

That’s part of the purpose of Marxist-fuelled wokeism, to demoralise society by undermining the norms they once lived by.

[@badgerlife9541]

Same here. Woke ads are the worst!

[@strangetranceoffaith]

Switch them off and do something productive the sun is shining outside and the world is full of wonder. The SJWs are reprehensible and so are many of the right but the world is amazing

[@ancientfuture9690]

Andrew is incredibly articulate and describes the inherent madness of Wokeism extremely well. Keep going dude!

[@Kurtlane]

Yes, but he is an optimist.

[@enzedbrit]

Yet he still uses the term “people of colour”

[@thathandsomedevil0828]

I am also impressed by the internet connection from his place in the Amalfi coast.

[@ancientfuture9690]

@@enzedbrit and?

[@enzedbrit]

@@ancientfuture9690 embracing woke terminology unironically doesn’t make an entirely convincing combatter of said ideology

[@colly7963]

Convince a group of people they are victims and then step in as their saviours. Great self-serving strategy.

[@StephanDallaPria]

At a cost, of course. Virtue is not free, after all.

[@Macheako]

@@StephanDallaPria ??????? 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@StephanDallaPria]

@@Macheako I am saying they are race hustlers for money, basically.

[@domkane30]

Yep, its a kind of collective Munchausens by proxy.

[@saltburner2]

The trouble is they will quickly discover that you are not their saviours, and their sense of victimhood will be greatly magnified.

[@timothymulholland7905]

The Chinese and the Russians are rolling with laughter. They don’t have to “bury” us. We’ll do it for them.

[@marccas10]

The empire always looks its strongest just before it falls.

[@jamespearce9973]

They have gone quiet haven’t they? No longer the focus of the news cycle for some reason....

[@audience2]

We in the West should try to avoid collapse. China has major downstream problems as a result of their collapse in birthrates.

[@city_of_coompton6832]

@@audience2 the West also has collapsing birthrates, it's only being offset by mass migration (which also brings with it major downstream problems)

[@jdbm1978]

The Russians don't care, they're not in a position to do anything. The Chinese on the other hand.....

[@betydning]

It's incredibly sad to see a generation of bright young people filling their heads with critical race theory and spending their time raging against invented grievances. Imagine what they could do if they used their time on something worthwhile.

[@freezo244]

@Raw Engineer Gah! So TRUE!

[@RegencyLady-ho2ik]

I was lucky to just escape the really intense sjw education, the foundations were being laid but I still just ignored it all. Surely better time would be spent on first aid lessons, financial lessons? It was only due to the fact my school had a former paramedic as a teacher that I had first aid lessons.

[@donna1235]

@Phyllis Martin Completley agree. And I think the violence will begin after ther election, especially with a Trump victory

[@christinalayzelle832]

@Delta Fox I really hope that's true.

[@anonymousdonor8084]

@Raw Engineer Well said! My thoughts exactly.

[@hellavadeal]

It is racist to say someone is racist because they are white.

[@sunnyjim1355]

Of course it is, because "everything is racist....."

[@sonofnike2800]

You can't be racist on whites because they don't exist! They are social constructs; they are the only "non-race" and so they need to let go of this False Concept of "whiteness" and acept the true humans, the "people of color".

[@marhar1172]

Yes! Making a judgement of someone based on the colour of their skin, black or white is RACIST! When someone tells you otherwise they are trying to manipulate you. So trust your gut and walk away and do not give these people any of your time.

[@stellarjayatkins4749]

@@sonofnike2800 I hope that’s sarcasm. It’s hard to tell these days.

[@clovermark39]

I just call them bullies.

[@davidabheeru2012]

Rather than saying "I'm against the anti-racist movement because it's a form of racialized thinking" it might be better to say "I'm truly anti-racist and the so-called anti-racist movement is actually racial hatred masquerading as anti-racism". That is, own the term.

[@Randomest_Stories]

Eh.... u said the same thing only differently! Means the same

[@AndyJarman]

Just say anti-racism is racism in blackface

[@newtalking3]

Yes own the term - guerilla marketing 101

[@davidabheeru2012]

@@AndyJarman LOL

[@ohcrikey9560]

@@Randomest_Stories of course it means the same. Doh.

[@jackdelaney6633]

"There are nasty pieces of work" yes and always will be, but most of them are not working class "deplorables" class superiority is the sickness in this country, being middle class and having a degree does not make an individual intelligent or decent or enlightened.

[@mostlypeacefulrowan8747]

Nothing is more cringy than someone who uses their undergraduate degree as proof of intelligence. Everyone has a degree now that higher education is an export business!

[@ullscarf]

Critical Race Theory is the latest tool for the upper middle class to divide and rule the workers.

[@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293]

Excellent comment.

[@geoded]

28:15 - "They muddy the water to make it seem deep" -> it's ya boy, Nietzsche.

[@BrandochGarage]

Brilliant!

[@CA-ee1et]

Andrew Doyle decries cancel culture; decries the situation where someone says something and is rounded on by Twitter, hounded out of their job etc; and poses an alternative scenario where one is 'allowed' to say "I made a mistake, I misspoke, I'm terribly sorry" and be 'forgiven' for it. But here's the thing. What if cancel culture is applied not to someone who "made a mistake" or "misspoke" but someone who said what they meant and meant what they say? What if that person is in the right, and the Twitter mob is in the wrong? Are they only let off being 'cancelled' if they grovel and apologise for something they should not apologise for? Then the question is, who decides whether the person is right and shouldn't apologise, or wrong and should apologise? The Twitter mob cannot be the decision-maker, because that's like making one side's goalkeeper the referee in a football match. Surely the answer is *all* cancel culture is wrong; anyone should be allowed to say what they like, and if you don't like it, you come up with better arguments, and not try to get someone sacked; and if you do try to get someone sacked for something they say, you ought to be subject to appropriate sanction.

[@AndyJarman]

Jordan Peterson's mantra - never apologise if you haven't done anything wrong - it will do nothing but hand the mob more power.

[@earlanderson4002]

Never apologize to a Leftist for any reason.

[@honestjohn6418]

I honestly think that we’ve already been so anti racist for so long, we (native Europeans and Western civilisation), have become shattered and receding as non-western and minority identities march on confidently in the only places we could ever call home. Sure white racism still exists and it’s horrible but it has ZERO institutional power. The idea that we need to push further and further towards an anti racist, diverse utopia, seems nothing more than a demand for complete surrender. I for one categorically say...NO If you find the UK oppressive because of its native stock, don’t let the door hit you on your way out. And I say that as someone whose late wife was not white or European.

[@honestjohn6418]

@@DonBean-ej4ou I grew up in the 70s/80s/90s in North West London next to the most Jamaican area other than Brixton. I would say at least two thirds of my black friends, buy into the righteous victim, Proud Black man stuff. The final third are some of the most pleasant, hard working and funny people I know. They hate this stuff. To be fair, many of the angry, proud black nationalist types are lovely as long as you don’t bring up race. So in many ways, it isn’t black people but the way the white middle class establishment has embraced black victimhood and black nationalism as a way of signaling virtue and being down with the kids. I blame the media who fawn over black anger, amplify lies and empower only the grievances and I blame the politicians who seem to think mass immigration is the gift that keeps on giving and if the natives don’t like it, tough.

[@JNYC-gb1pp]

Yup. I say no too. I'm ready for the push back. Not having it. They gotta go - or they need to STFU and be defanged. Though our traitors need to suffer the most. They must pay.

[@davidcowley]

it so so depressing to hear the episode got demonetised. Shit, sometimes I think I'm going mad when I hear stuff like that, I thought the episode was great

[@Pmccaff2009]

Take comfort in the fact everytime YT demonitize a video like this, it PROVES you’re NOT going mad. The woke mafia at silicone valley really are after free speech and everytime they pull a stunt like this it proves our point.

[@mrblobby6284]

@pproust yes. when they CHOOSE not to pay for a video with thousands of people interested in it then clearly the video payment scheme they operate is a scam with political/social objectives. time for Trump to demonetise youtube.

[@fckem1000]

Just like racism - being offended is taught.

[@AndrewB21]

In as much as racism is part of in-group preference, it's an unavoidable part of being human.

[@MrRourk]

We must take back the education system

[@61chickens]

Thanks Chris - your interviews are one of the few places left where you can have a good laugh discussing serious issues which is exactly as it should be...well done fella!

[@vonroretz3307]

“Guilty until proven innocent” is the crux of this. Reverse ethics. Tribal rules.

[@SimonBaddeley]

'Enough people are now pushing back on this stuff' Yes.

[@barbaraseymour3437]

I sure hope so.

[@fredericwild734]

It's all becoming a Tower Of Babel of "isms".

[@bobblue_west]

and phobias

[@ellengran6814]

Totally agree !

[@djkrptdnb]

Well you know what happened to that tower! (Smite, smite)

[@jennifervictore5471]

Army stats showing massive population reduction by 2025. You decide.. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJ3YY2SCo9t3Y9U

[@snowflakemelter1172]

Ism's are already turning on one another to scrabble for victimhood top place .

[@sourcescience]

As a ginger nut I demand equal hairstyles. Or something.

[@oliviakirby1409]

Yes, but does the carpet match the curtains?

[@sourcescience]

@@oliviakirby1409 no. My hair is now brown as it changed over time but I remain a fire crotch.

[@goj09dale]

I have a ginger beard but mousey blonde hair I demand equal hairstyles particularly in a hitler like style.

[@Darrylizer1]

You'll get pumpkin spice latte only and you'll enjoy it!!!

[@goj09dale]

@@Darrylizer1 extra cinnamon sprinkles.

[@martinpaveymusic309]

Chris, you are so fabulous! 😎 Love the incredible range of guests you have, how well you interview them and how down-to-earth you are! 🤩 Great to have Mr. Doyle back on! 📚

[@huntnorth5744]

“ All people are equal....but some people are more equal than others” George Orwell via Gad Saad

[@zootsoot2006]

I think the problem could be that we just don't have any real alone time anymore. A lot of lonely time on the internet by ourselves physically but mentally we're constantly surrounded by other people's opinions and so we don't have the change to really examine our thoughts authentically. The madness of crowds occurs when people say or do things that are supposed to get a reaction out of the person next to us, whether or not it's a sane thing to think or do. This then is passed along the line of other people becoming more and more amplified as it's seen to be more and more justified, since more and more people believe in it. Everyone just ends up believing things that have no basis in reality but just act as a declaration of our inclusion in the group and that we want to include as many people in the group as possible. Socialism comes from the same spring of always thinking through others and never as an individual. It's the reason so many young people are caught up in socialist ideas and this woke crap, they desperately want to be included in the group and avoid ostracism.

[@MrWrob32]

we need more people like Andrew, what an incredible thinker, and we need to make sure that they are given a platform to express their thoughts. Great work lately Modern Wisdom, keep it up

[@jeanne8395]

I always love these interviews. I'm sorry it was demonetised. One thing that Andrew should be a ware of is the rubberband effect of millennials. My son is in his teens (I-gen), and because millennials are so 'woke' the next generation is becoming very anti-woke. I'm an open minded person, and encourage original thought in my house. My son and his friends, are actually becoming a conservative Trump supporter, with very low empathy on things because of burn out. I know they are young, and I know it is the opposite side of the pendulum swing. But I get to see first hand with my son, how the results of this culture war will end up. My son's generation are very accepting of gender, sexual identity, but becoming very aggressive against the woke in a unique way. I love your shift in perspective, keep up the good job Chris.

[@Draclord35]

@BVale Also most adolescents mellow down eventually. They're rebellious and then they grow up (hopefully) and become a bit more pragmatic.

[@silvereith]

Guess who doesn't shop at Sainsbury's any more.

[@sunnyjim1355]

I don't have to guess, I know; Me.

[@fukluk88]

@@sunnyjim1355 Top 'o tha marnin' to ya Sunny Jim!

[@fionagregory8078]

Mum's gone to Iceland.

[@fionagregory8078]

Co-op is good.

[@self2point030]

Is this on 1.25 speed? Damn, Doyle talks fast af

[@jaydamalley3398]

I HAD it on 1.25, had to dial it back. :P

[@kristineopsommer]

@@jaydamalley3398 Same here!

[@derbar7051]

I know how you feel, when I listen to German as a Brit (I’m learning) they speak sooo fast 😂

[@DieFlabbergast]

If you think this is fast, DON'T click on a Ben Shapiro video.

[@hedgehog1965uk]

Andrew Doyle and Douglas Murray are two of my favourite people. Two voices of reason in an ever more insane world.

[@Rodzilla5332]

One of your best interviews. Good stuff.

[@toddthing]

I agree with so much being said here EXCEPT I believe it disingenuous to say we can simply ignore skin color and, in so doing, be able to treat everyone the same. We need these conversations. There are valid points being made on both sides.

[@lawrencethompson8996]

"Racism" is as natural as loving your own children and relatives over strangers. We are a mammalian species that has an evolutionary interest in showing preference to those who are more closely related to us. The average Englishman is going to be more genetically similar to me than the average African. Since I have a genetic interest in seeing my genes promoted into the future it makes perfect evolutionary sense to show an ethnic preference - all else being equal of course.

[@lawrencethompson8996]

@Sienna Waters It has gone too far. Read Frank Salters article "Estimating Ethnic Genetic Interests: Is It Adaptive to Resist Replacement Migration?" It breaks down just how damaging foreign immigration is in terms of the "genetic interests" of the native populations. And remember there are huge knock on effects so it is not just a narrow issue of "genetic interest" it also impacts on the extent to which people are likely to co-operate with each other, the power of the state and the likelihood of political violence. Among countless other aspects of peoples lives. The genetic interest of a people is not a "simplistic" thing because it permeates our entire social system at almost every level. It is just something people don't want to admit to themselves because it undermines the liberal globalist morality

[@lawrencethompson8996]

@Sienna Waters Fair enough. But in evolutionary terms there is a fitness trade off. "Outbreeding" slightly reduces the chances of inheriting double doses of bad genes - in this way you avoid inbreeding depression. However, there is also a thing called outbreeding depression whereby the combination of genetic material which has evolved in geographical isolation "clash" and can cause negative effects. So it is a gamble either way. However studies show that 3rd & 4th cousin marriages are the most happy and fertile. These sorts of marriages are also in the genetic interest of both partners and the extended family. It is not in the genetic interest of the extended family & nation to encourage outbreeding to a large extent. I suspect that as Europe and America become more ethnically diverse the willingness of people to co-operate and pool wealth will collapse. We will also see much more regulation of socio-cultural freedoms by the state in order to maintain order between a population that has no real sense of familial unity. It is actually possible to make a rough calculation of the amount of genetic relatedness there is between "mixed race" vs "single race" children. It is counter-intuitive an African American/White American couple has a similar level of genetic relatedness to their mixed child as each parent has to a randomly selected member of their own race. So at a genetic level each parent is "less related" to their child than a single race coupling because the single race coupling is more closely related. I hope this is comprehensible. I can send you some links to reading if you are interested. There are so many studies on genetic distance and its effects on society it amazes me it isn't more widely known. I guess it is quite new since they have only been doing detailed genetic studies for a few decades. Also it is considered "politically dangerous" by our economic and intellectual elite.

[@DieFlabbergast]

But all else never is equal. We are not sheep, neither are we wolves: humans are too complex for such simplistic descriptions.

[@AndyJarman]

About a year ago Tim Pool was discussing research demonstrating in group preference by skin tone. The only 'group' that demonstrated an outgroup preference was the group with the palest skin tone. So self deprecating are the pale skins, so resigned to assuming they are inherently at fault that they are the only group on the planet that prefer foreigners to their own.

[@briangable08]

@@lawrencethompson8996 Well, I read somewhere that as my mother's clan in Scottish highlands was direct decendent of a Viking king, and during the early 60's I sowed wild oats in Kuching, Borneo, Cyprus, et al as a young soldier, along with thousands of comrades, there must be quite a mix by now, lol.

[@kenricnarbrough8191]

The analysis of Indulging the activism with large scale capitulation is a critical point (57min). Brilliantly put.

[@michaelstanwick9690]

Andrew is on mark. DiAngelo's book is nothing short of a type of autobiographical argument of her cognition - her interpretations of her observations/experiences - that essentially indicate she has racist leanings. She attributes to herself the positionality (as understood within critical theory) of being the exemplar of being 'white' (again understood only in terms of critical theory) and as such embodies the racism inherent in all 'whites' (since she is white and the exemplar) and then gets to the serious business of telling all 'whites' they are therefore racist. Notwithstanding that serious non sequitur she then has the temerity to engage in another fallacious bit of illogic by applying a kafkatrap to those who question her appalling inferences and conclusions.

[@design7054]

52:10 They're not the frikkin seeds Andrew, they are the branches, the leaves, the fruit. This has been brewing for decades. We've already been pushed back a mile, we're not just now at the starting line. The rewind that needs doing is immense.

[@michaelstanwick9690]

The other point Andrew is eluding to is the difference between the Martin Luther King approach and the Malcom X approach whereby the latter has now become the de facto approach to racism issues. Thus the postulate that a person's identity is not centered on their character but on the colour of their skin.

[@IainFrame]

Andrew's fantastic. He's the voice of reason.

[@jaybaker9248]

Let's all be fair and give credit to Devon Tracey for the "racism of the gaps" idea. No-one gives that guy credit but we all use his ideas.

[@briannxx]

Yep damn shame he got removed from KZbin

[@jaybaker9248]

@@briannxx yeah, he's been scrubbed but he's still doing his thing on Gavin's censored tv. He makes a ton of vids still and he's completely uncensored. It's worth the 10$

[@briannxx]

@South Paw The loser claim is your projection and show me the evidence of who said it first! If you can’t provide receipts then loser really prove to be your projection

[@jaybaker9248]

@South Pawit's an old idea but he summed it up with the phrase and put it out there way before much more popular people. "He's a loser" good one. He's right more than he's wrong, and he's not afraid to say the hard truths.

[@helmsscotta]

Intersectionality hasn't mutated. It has always been about dividing people and setting them against one-another.

[@paulbriody297]

Race exists and there are measurable differences. Colour-blindness is a stupid position, no wonder it was taught to children: it's childish. We need to work with an understanding of these differences, trying to ignore them implies systemic racism as an answer to the different outcomes.

[@ciganyweaverandherperiwink6293]

I can't wait for Andrew's next book. I'm so happy he's writing it in one of the most beautiful parts of planet Earth. This knowledge is definitely going to add that 'certain something' to my reading experience. Brilliant. :)

[@enzedbrit]

When intelligent men like these unironically use the term “people of colour”, I die a wee bit

[@DieFlabbergast]

The only human who is NOT a person of colour is the Invisible Man.

[@MichaelAE]

Or "blacks" and "whites". Or the term "n-word". It's all a bunch of horseshit.

[@Agrillot6]

I remember my grandma called black people “coloreds”, to me this is no different. And she didn’t mean anything by it. She thought thats what they wanted to be called.

[@DanishaExplainsItAll]

Dear Andrew, Hello from the U.S.A.! KZbin auto-play graciously introduced me to your show last night and I have been binge watching it ever since! (LOL!) Your conversations are fantastic and I enjoy listening to your thoughts, as well as your guests thoughts, about American politics and the current social climate. Having graduated with a B.A. in Journalism, I must admit that it would be incredibly awesome to join in on one of your future conversations; it’s getting pretty cray-cray over here, to say the least. Thanks for all you do! Best, Dana

[@Dragblacker]

I really don't get why people get so bent out of shape over the fact that Trump uses Twitter a lot. For years people wanted a leader who didn't behave like a typical politician. Trump doesn't behave like a typical politician, and those same people have spent the past four years complaining about it. The love-hate relationship is boring and stupid.

[@cirrus8791]

To be fair, they're much more concerned about his content than his choice of medium.

[@Dragblacker]

@@cirrus8791 What about his content is so terrible? And again, why are people so appalled that he doesn't behave like a typical politician? Is it really that they see themselves in how Trump behaves, and are in fact disgusted with themselves?

[@cirrus8791]

@@Dragblacker There's too many opinions and too much content to be able to discuss in any detail, but in the spirit of steelmanning every perspective, I'd say wanting a president to speak at a higher/better level than an average person, wanting more honesty, more adherence to facts, fewer flame wars against individuals, etc. I'm not personally speaking to the truth or otherwise of those sentiments.

[@Dragblacker]

@@cirrus8791 I can understand wanting a President who speaks at "a higher level". But Obama and others spoke very "Presidentially", and look what they did. And as I said, this is what people wanted when they demanded a "non-politician".

[@amorfati4927]

@@cirrus8791 That’s where it gets into an odd situation and part of the problem with the current landscape (and I understand that you are steelmanning and might or might not be on the side you’re defending). Say for example Alex Jones (I’m very neutral on the guy) is said to be a conspiracy theorist, is lying out of his ass all the time and so on and so forth (is brash like Trump). However, maaaaany of the things he says ends up being proven true. Another example would be the current Hunter and Joe Biden stuff going on. Most everyone (well on the left) have been calling all these stories fake news and lies and even social media is banning these things (that have emails, photos and what not that could be real or fabricated). However, when it came to Russia that was and to some is still “the facts” without any actual fact or evidence. It’s tough when if something is “fact” or “the truth” is merely based on who is saying it. Such as the vaccine where both Harris and Biden said they would not take it if it comes from Trump as if Trump is a mad scientist in the basement concocting a vaccine instead of the medical experts. After all, Obama sounded good but it was pretty much all on paper (he even got nominated for and later won a Nobel Peace Prize after just becoming the President in which his only merit was the color of his skin because he had not been in office long enough to do anything). This is coming from someone who voted for him twice.

[@karl6525]

Chris repeatedly choking with laughter as if being stoned for the first time in any and every conversation is why I'm here. How can one person maintain such hilarity??? X')))

[@wyleecoyotee4252]

Luv his laugh..it cracks me up

[@muninnsmith7958]

"Racism of the gaps" perfect

[@StephanDallaPria]

Devon Tracey coined that term, btw.

[@muninnsmith7958]

@@StephanDallaPria thanks

[@simonking2869]

I was delighted to see an hour of Doyle in my alerts! Thanks!

[@o0posh0o58]

meta analysis words that explain a phenomena are not applicable in everyday language eg: "treeist" says nothing about resolving trees growing on earth..... therfore there is no such thing as "anti-racist"

[@BrainsInBlackButter]

"The definition of genius is taking a complex idea and making it simple" - Albert Einstein

[@falcon048]

The issue at the core is that we even still think in terms of "race." Humans label. It is how we make sense of the world around us. That's a tree, that's a car, that's a cat. Instead we push this further and use shame in our labels. Example: "No, that's not a 'tree' that's an oak, stupid head!" or "that's not a 'car,' it's a BMW, f**k-nuts!" or "That's not a 'cat,' it's a calico, jerk-face!" We have adopted the notion that we have to segregate our labels into smaller sub-labels and then batch them into "good", "bad" or "other." Any time there is an opportunity to correct a badly labeled item, we must add an insult for good measure. So we perpetuate hate. Us vs them. The classic human divider. Our team is better than your team...even if they lose. Racism is a tool for those that have little to no self-esteem. The old school fallacy that by pushing someone else down, you can then rise above. Whatever effect it had that was positive, quickly vanishes and leaves you further down than you were before; like quicksand. It starts with the side eye, then the physical moving to avoid, then it's insults, then it escalates into violence. It's the human condition of always needing to one-up from the previous. Escalation in behavior. WE are all human. No amount of extra labels is going to change that. Humans aren't a race, we are a species. We don't call cats the cat race. The only way to be truly "woke" is to shed as many labels as you can. For example, the labels I am forced to bear: Male, White, Heterosexual, Father, Brother, Son, Uncle, Citizen, Employee; among others. Each label carries with it an expectation of responsibility or behavior. Shedding these labels is a way to return to the core you. That's incredibly hard to do. Most people don't want to do it.

[@falcon048]

@Logan That goes back to self-esteem. The need to belong. The need to feel protected. The gender pronoun war, is one of the most misguided and useless in human history. It's all too easy to skip the pronoun conundrum and just ask, "and what is your name?" Then simply address them by name and you no longer have to pander to their game. In regards to sexual identity, it is linked to self-esteem. If a male wishes to identify as a female, it is because they feel good about themselves inside that label. It's a poor argument to suggest that nature is the sole reason they have chosen a label. If that were true, then nature wouldn't have allowed it to begin with because nature only cares about propagation of species. If humans were able to alter their internal organs in order to reproduce because there was a need for gender swapping, then the argument would be acceptable. Even if a person undertakes surgery to conform to the outer appearance of the desired gender, it doesn't function for the purpose of reproduction. A female who underwent gender reassignment surgery won't carry or produce sperm that it can ejaculate. A male who underwent gender reassignment surgery won't carry or produce eggs to be fertilized. They can use hormones to alter some of their physical characteristics, but never to change the nature of propagation of species. Therefore, the purpose is only for physical pleasure, role play and self-esteem. Now, with that said, do they deserve to be beaten, murdered, harassed, belittled, shamed, or any other form of assault? No. In that respect, they deserve equal treatment. I think if we all shed the labels, there wouldn't be a need to assault them, nor would there be a reason to fear them and there certainly wouldn't be a need to pander to a series of new labels.

[@amorfati4927]

The self-esteem is HUGE. Label people as victims that will always need help and see what happens to their self-esteem (hint: were already there).

[@falcon048]

@@amorfati4927 Correct. Years of martial arts training has taught me that most people that become victims of a personal assault-level crime are because they walked or held themselves like a victim. Never be the victim. Ever wonder why you never see this headline, "Attack Thwarted When Victim Surprised Attacker With Martial Arts." Because perpetrators can tell when someone is capable of attacking back. ;)

[@MiniLinlin]

@@falcon048 This is literally something that I was taught. My dad always told me, "when you are walking alone in the street, don't look as if you're lost or you have no idea where to go, because someone with bad intentions will catch onto that". He told me I should look confident. Perpetrators really can tell when someone is easy to take advantage of.

[@falcon048]

@@MiniLinlin You're Dad is wise. Yes, never act like a victim or you will be the victim. Bullies don't want to work hard at being a bully. The same is true for criminals. They aren't criminals because it's hard work. They want everything to be easy, so they will pick who they think is "easy." The idea is, don't make yourself look like "easy" prey. :)

[@DarrylWhiteguitar]

How is it that a comedian is more articulate and sensible than any academic we're likely to hear from?

[@wrzlgummidge7663]

The problem, in my humble opinion, is dogma. Same impact as when used by the catholic church, and communist USSR / PRC.

[@josefranciscodasilvaeolive674]

17:46 - 18:11 BOOM!! Nailed it! Put in repeat and blast it from the rafters. "This isn't how adults should behave."

[@Pengalen]

Semantic overload: Ben Shapiro would know all about that woudn't he. However, it is analogous to the programming term polymorphism in some respect.

[@tank8955]

Whenever I feel the Woke insanity is going to make my head explode, I just hunt down a bit of Andrew Doyle, gotta love this bloke.

[@roslewis9923]

Great description “ tik-tok” for academics/intellectuals.......

[@emothegunslinger]

Allways a pleasure to listen to Mr. Doyle.

[@johncitizen3227]

🙌👍😁it’s like we’re in a really rubbish version of the Matrix.

[@alecchapin9071]

Appreciate the sanity you bring to the world. Seriously.

[@fckem1000]

The whole political landscape is getting dragged further and further left - so alt right now means the Labour government in the 1970's

[@donna1235]

Chris I came across your videos serendipitously and I couldn't be happier. I think your interview skills are top notch, and your guests among the finest. Thank you!!

[@crabulon6657]

Google 'Barbary slave trade' and ask yourself why we aren't taught about it in school, despite being taught about "other" slave trades.

[@RegencyLady-ho2ik]

I asked this when I was at school and I basically shocked my teacher into silence, she had no response. At parents evening that year my history teacher said I knew more history than the teachers combined. And this was when I was 12.

[@briangable08]

@@RegencyLady-ho2ik The slavery subject has been highjacked by the black American, forgetting the "indentured labour" across the uk and elsewhere, slaving raids along South West coast, Ireland, plus prisons in Australasia selling inmates to farms. When I worked in the middle east im the 70's my students boasted about their Ethiopian slaves, Slavery is alive and well in the world today I'm sure.

[@StupStups]

Great chat, Doyle was on really good form. It's made me feel surprisingly upbeat

[@adamfstewart81]

Andrew is one of the most anti-racist anti-anti-racists out there these days.

[@DieFlabbergast]

Come again?

[@Doorsofprcptn]

@@DieFlabbergast there's a double negative of anti anti, so I think he said The most anti racist racist. In other words racist but not totally? I certainly don't think that's what he is if you listen to him, quite the opposite.

[@Lopfff]

I have a knot thing almost exactly the same as the one on the wall behind Andrew's left ear!

[@johnnymarshall5828]

The omission of other countries historical crimes is very convenient, why does the ottoman empire get a pass for instance, this is a cynical and vindictive agenda aimed at the white world, it won't work, this whole thing is gonna come to a grinding halt, soon, we've all had enough of the lies and smears, by the way Britain ended the slave trade, the cost of which was finally paid in full five years ago ,you're welcome

[@amycorron3731]

OMG I can't believe Andrew mentioned the board book Anti-racist Baby. Just this morning I had to attend a virtual picture book in-service hosted by my local library and that was the first new book they pushed!

[@jmcee6122]

I really enjoyed this interview...... right up to the point where Andrew says that Trump shouldn't be President. You both admit that the economy was greatly improved AND that we're finally seeing some peace brought to the Middle East! But..... it's so important that Andrew doesn't like the way he speaks and tweets that he shouldn't be given four more years. Really? Clearly you aren't really following all the things that this administration has done to help this country AND you aren't really aware of all the things that Biden wants to do with the help of his handlers and his VP (who will be put in charge before his 4 years is even up.) If you two can't honestly tell the difference between these two candidates then neither of you is as smart as I once thought you both were. I'm so disappointed in both of you.

[@DieFlabbergast]

He didn't say that. As I understand it, like MANY people, he wishes that BOTH candidates could lose. Now THAT would be interesting. As a society, America is going to lose no matter which of the two candidates wins this time.

[@jmcee6122]

@@DieFlabbergast Bull. I want all the policy changes we got with Trump. I want more de-regulation. More energy independence. The Veteran's choice plan. The new "favored nations" drug deal. More peace in the Middle East. More border protection. Other Countries not scamming us out of money like in the Paris accords. Countries paying their share of what they owe and not getting away with it. I want ISIS fighters gone. I want many of the things we got from Trump and this childish notion that we should have someone who looks and sounds "Presidential" instead of a guy who gets stuff done is stupid. I don't care about the cover of a book. I judge a book by what's written in it. America didn't "lose" anything by having him be President no matter how much you losers think it's such a smart thing to say.

[@vidyaviv6588]

@@jmcee6122 he couldnt help his inner "enlighten centrist", like his pin example that people should assume you are not racist without you needing to carry a, "i am not a racsit " pin and then saying we should found the good in the left like the liberal side, well DUH!, thats goes without saying. the point of the current skirmishes IS the ability to do what you want and say what you want. its a redunt point in the context of what we are talking a about. its again that "i am the center and we should found the good in both sides" without actually adding substance. is guess that what happens when there is overwhelming admiration (like this comment section)

[@fleshboundtobone]

Andrew speaks so clearly and articulates the case against all this nonsense so well

[@EmperorsNewWardrobe]

35:20 I love the way Andrew phrases things

[@jumpingjellyfishy]

So in looking back, we've had the Ages of Renaissance, of Enlightenment, Scientific, Romantic, Industrial, Imperial, Information, Gilded, Free Love, and we have to be stuck with this freakin PCSJW age. It's not fair.

[@DonnaBrooks]

Thank you for posting the timestamps! That's really helpful.

[@petermathieson5692]

"If an identitarian party were to take power..." No need to imagine: look to Canada, New Zealand, and soon the US. Imagine depending on France and Germany to rescue us from ourselves.

[@denisekay4292]

What man can think, he can create. It's a never ending cycle.

[@saggionline8821]

Great show fellas, Doyle was royal. Rock on.

[@cindyjo9093]

I'm glad I listened to this. I've wondered where this madness came from, how it caught on and frankly when it will end. If this continues we will no longer lead the world. Hope some people reject it outright and talk some sense into the crazies.

[@GreenTeaViewer]

I'm a simple man. You disrespect my ancestors, you place yourself outside the circle of my respect.

[@markhutton6055]

Anti-Racism, the anti is NOT as in against, it is anti as in another kind of, as in anti-matter. Anti-racism is a mirror image of racism. So is in fact racism.

[@evelynn4273]

I attend a University of California school and classes on racism and global warming are requirements to graduate. We also have to take weekly tests for Covid and get vaccinated or we can't be on campus or register for classes (not that we can anyway, we're severely impacted). Our classes are online, but we pay the same tuition as well.

[@modelmark]

Regarding the jargon of the intersectionists “The most difficult subjects can be explained to the most slow-witted man if he has not formed any idea of them already; but the simplest thing cannot be made clear to the most intelligent man if he is firmly persuaded that he knows already, without a shadow of doubt, what is laid before him.” Leo Tolstoy

[@LeonApricus]

Andrew Doyle seems like a man who has no solid answers to solve this problem.

[@johnbowles5399]

A lot of these admittedly very intelligent men all seem to have the same flaw, they recognise the problem, they even recognise that it needs to be fought back against, but at the same time they seem to not like the idea of conservative nationalism, indeed even oppose it in some cases. I don't know whether that's a deep confusion on their part or a deliberate attempt to obfuscate, but as far as I'm concerned nationalism is the ONLY cure for the Marxist disease that is destroying the west.

[@toxicdonut3485]

Looking forward to the new book from Andrew.

[@ChrisWillx]

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[@ryanlerouche5122]

It is wrong to discriminate against people base of of anything they are born into they can never change anything you are born into. You can only discriminate against certain values. But the culture teaches the opposite.

[@glennparker4889]

Another informative, enjoyable and necessary conversation; cheers for that!

[@sjatkins]

You guys are wonderful. Sometimes you are gleefully and in fun "bad". But I love it.

[@arhabersham]

Thank you so much for making these interviews

[@markncl100]

I didn't know you were originally from Stockton-on-Tees, Chris. I do hope you were south of the river, making you a fellow Yorkshireman! lol Another great interview with Andrew. I do enjoy your relaxed style and friendly gently probing, which allows your guest to express themselves and really get to the crux of their argument. I genuinely look forward to more of the same.

[@zxyatiywariii8]

53:58 -- 54:38 _"It just sort of went away."_ Anyone old enough to remember Y2K. . . A friend of mine was one of the myriad tech people who worked extraordinarily hard all throughout 1998/1999 to safeguard the particular sector to which he was assigned, to prevent it from crashing when the new millennium dawned. However, to many people, Y2K felt like "a great big nothingburger" because nothing catastrophic happened; and I'm sufficiently tech-illiterate to understand that feeling. It's like, _What were we even worried about?_ -- the whole thing "just sort of went away". But the reason WHY it "went away" was because people like my tech-adept friend, and innumerable others, worked so hard to make sure systems did NOT crash. And I think the same will be true of people like Andrew Doyle and James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose and Peter Boghossian and this channel Modern Wisdom and everyone who understands the rabid, metastatic nature of Critical Theory and its ilk. If things do become more normal in the next decade or two, then many people will think 2020 and the Grievance Studies situation was all just a "tempest in a teacup". But if this does happens (and I hope it does!) it'll only be BECAUSE of all the people who pushed back against the fundamentalist religion/cult that's been devouring so much of true liberalism for the past 50 or 100 years. And all of us, who will be old enough then to remember 2020, we will be grateful.🙏🏽♥️

[@idam6048]

Again, brilliant. Absolutely brutally true comment. Point after point hitting home, so impressive how gifted people can sense these changes and translate so eloquently. How can the lefty right on lot sleep at night never mind enjoy anything at all? We are humans and we should never aim to have just one common thought or action. Keep up the good work 👍

[@davidanderson9664]

Excellent talk. Thank you guys. D.A., NYC

[@SirBoden]

Greetings from Portland. Keep up the good work.

[@ienekevanhouten4559]

My feelings exactly. I am totally with you. I have changed my political profile from Left to Independent, Classical Liberal and proudly problematic.

[@k54dhKJFGiht]

"Active Measures - Psychological Warfare - Subversion - Yuri Bezmenov - You haven't properly explored enough.

[@JamesBrewerDJ]

Err...how did you manage to stack all those books in the background....my max "book stack record" is 27 before it's natural gravity skewes and topples. What's the secret technique you are applying? I'm intrigued.

[@jacksonwatkins6431]

With regard to the term "Semantic Overload" although I think there's some good in that term, I think that James Lindsey's term "Idea Laundering" is a bit more precise because it conveys the intent that comes with this concept. I do wish that James's term could be more easily adapted to different tenses and word forms, but it's still the better term.

[@jacksonwatkins6431]

I coined the term "Linguistic Bait and Switch" some years back, but I think idea laundering works best of the available terms out there.

[@warmflash]

An Unconference on Mars “Decolonizing Mars: An Unconference on Inclusion and Equity in Space Exploration” will bring together a diverse group of individuals working at the intersection of astrobiology, anthropology, social justice, and space exploration. The format of the event will feature discussion as its primary objective. While there will be time for brief presentations, a significant fraction of the program will be devoted to group discussion around pressing themes, which will be determined by the symposium participants themselves. The term decolonization refers to undoing the legacy of colonialism. Many people are used to hearing about "colonizing Mars" to talk about humanity living in space; here, we examine how using a colonialist framework in space reproduces past harm from humanity's history on Earth. This event is about envisioning fresh pathways for thinking about space exploration by stepping away from the ways we usually talk about space, which by definition is "decolonizing" the topic. Hence, "Decolonizing Mars".

[@margaretdent1312]

very thought provoking and I have no idea if I'm left or right??????????????

[@mycatsnameiskaren8253]

"Human interaction is full of stupid comments. That's part of the fun." Brilliant!!

[@whatmatters4990]

I feel that the intellectual elite are bullying me. A person with no education. I believe it is my responsibility to beat bullies to death. Seems equitable to me. Love

[@kenricnarbrough8191]

You had me at concatenation Andrew. Best video on this channel. Thanks a bunch.