Supermarket charging with Smart Charge: a tour and a chat with Sainsbury's

[@alaneasthope2357]

Great interview and I hope our local Sainsbury's joins in. I couldn't help be distracted by the 2 BMWs in the background upholding the reputation of their driver's parking skills.😂

[@allanh6076]

The little white car at 13:12 I nearly spat out my tea ☕

[@SWR112]

@@allanh6076Hence why I park away from the main door, some crazy driving skills out there.

[@UloPe]

Really cool seeing that your channel has reached a point where you’re now able to get those types of interviews!

[@rongalbraith5005]

Good to hear this kind of thing and hopefully they'll keep rolling this out. Electroverse would be the obvious partner for payment for me.

[@MrEV]

I agree!

[@lordstevewilson1331]

I have type 1 car so can't use ccs but I can use type 2. Regardless Electroverse is the number 1 that should be added.

[@PJWey]

@@MrEValready suggested

[@unkleman]

Really enjoyed this interview and encouraged by Richard who is clearly the sort of person you want rolling this out. Government need to sort DNO and planning constraints and make the VAT 5% ASAP in my view. They also should have removed the five pence freeze on fuel duty at the last budget instead of increasing bus fares. As a result of watching this I am now planning to visit a Sainsbury’s Smart Charge this weekend when driving from Kent to North Wales as it is fast and likely to be operating along with chance for a break in the shop. 👍

[@SmartChargeEV]

Watch this space 👀

[@davidcrosby7219]

Excellent discussion, the Sainsbury’s guy really explained things well.

[@deansh8506]

Amazing job done by Sainsbury's. I am glad they picked Kempower as the charging equipment as they are the best in the buisness.

[@kevinmair7571]

Please add Octopus Electroverse. Thanks. Always nice to hear the other side of the story.

[@SmartChargeEV]

Watch this space 👀

[@kenbriooo2005]

We visit Norfolk on holiday and usually stop at the Sainsburys in Kings Lynn as it's normally lunch time and a good place to stop, eat and pick up bits for the holiday ahead. We used their new chargers recently and they were fantastic. Great to see a supermarket leading the way

[@SmartChargeEV]

Thanks!! Hope to see you again soon 🙂

[@silverghini2629]

This type of facility is ideal for those that can’t charge at home or for people travelling on holiday where they can’t charge at their destination. Well done Sainsbury’s.

[@vannicrider7953]

Apart from the price which is 10x home cost

[@killieblues]

Good interview. I couldn’t stop laughing at the stereotypical BMW parking behind though, and the one that rolled in at the end doing the same thing! 😂😂

[@wendyhopkins2902]

I'm so impressed by this set up, having the larger bays and accessibility ♿️ is brilliant 👏 👌

[@EricTheBlue61]

Great that Sainsbury's have taken the initiative. My area is a bit poor for public charging so if the main Sainsbury's here pur 8 or 10 reliable chargers in it would make a difference. 75p isn't going to encourage people who can't charge ar home. The government needs to change the taxation regime to make sure public charging is cheaper than petrol or diesel.

[@seanashmore8785]

Fantastic to see a supermarket take the initiative. Very poor parking in the background! But very pleasing to see someone wearing denim, green and brown. Quite the fashion statement!!

[@allan4787]

I was wondering if there was a rule in Sainsbury's carparks to park on the lines 😂

[@battyhouse]

Parking sizes in the majority of supermarkets are too small.

[@thumper1747]

Read the comment about parking before I posted my comment; what hell is wrong with people?

[@johnw65uk]

Two BMW cars as usual badly parked.

[@battyhouse]

@ I worded it wrong in that I fully agree with you regarding the idiotic parking or the abandoning

[@TheGourmetSnapper]

Bravo Sainsbury's for planning for the future now and to Mr. EV for making this video. Just 2 questions I'd like to have seen asked: Q1. What is Sainsbury's policy on combustion engine vehicles using the bays to park and EVs using the bays for parking but deliberately not plugging in? Q2. Can EV drivers park to charge outside of store opening hours without receiving a Parking Charge Notice?

[@johnnodge4327]

Excellent questions. The number of EV charging bays that are ICE'd at my local shopping centre is horrendous, often 50% or more spaces are taken up by ICE vehicles or by EVs not plugged in.

[@David-bl1bt]

​@@johnnodge4327 yep, personally I consider installing chargers in shopping centres to be a dumb idea. It readily promotes ICE'ing and EV overstayers. Tesla got it SO RIGHT from day 1 with an idling fee, perfect...ironically, it's not rocket science but CPOs just dont seem to get it as a concept, why?

[@SmartChargeEV]

Hi @TheGourmetSnapper happy to answer your questions... 1. Our EV bays are for EV use only, and all of our car parks and charging bays clearly display the rules across the whole car park. Equally 'ghost charging' (EVs using the bays and not charging) isn't permitted. 2. Yes, EV drivers can use the bays to charge 24/7.

[@mdshovel]

Just look at that Blue BMW parked behind you two !!! Hope big Sainsburys here will put this in

[@boatbuilderPortishead]

😅

[@malcolmfowler8972]

What impressed me about the latest Kempower chargers is they display on the screen whether the charge speed is being restricted by the charger or the EV. This should hopefully stop the endless moaning that the chargers aren't supplying full power when in actual fact it is the EV that isn't allowing the full charge power.

[@JonathanPorterfield]

Brilliant Andrew 👏 good to hear about the issues with DNO's too , go sainsbugs 😊😊 Another vote for electroverse to partner as well.

[@stephengowler5360]

Excellent video thanks. So refreshing to have a company representative who actually knows his subject. I have to say the only site I’ve witnessed is Christchurch which was set up but not working for many months. Such a shame about the outrageous price.

[@simonpaine2347]

All round great episode. Really natural. Great questions. Great quality. Great editing. Great machines. Great news that one of the major supermarkets are taking this seriously, but I'm surprised and disappointed that they aren't offering some good discounts if you spend more than say £50 in store. It seems like they are using the petrol station model of being in-line with the prices of the competition, the difference with Electricity is that most of us have access to it at home a lot cheaper, unlike petrol!

[@mrmuds8624]

I recently used one of these in Sevenoaks on a 500mile+ road trip. Excellent chargers, great decision to go with Kempower units.

[@SeanByrne-vo1kf]

Bravo Sainsbury, feels like you have a lead on the competitors & the accessible bays for me being disabled make a huge difference and I would make these stores a destination for charging over other choices. Well done Mr EV

[@MrEV]

That’s great to hear!

[@nigelhudson1948]

I've used Smart Charge 3 times when I've been away from home and I've always had a really rapid charge. It's a much better experience than using charging hubs at motorway services or petrol stations. As I do 95% of my charging at home, price is not such a barrier when I'm on the road. Obviously I won't use Shell, BP or Instavolt because their prices are ridiculous but 75p is OK if I can get food at supermarket prices to even out the overall cost.

[@SmartChargeEV]

Don't forget to collect those Nectar points Nigel 😉

[@darrenmunday4064]

This is a huge part for the solution to the lack of home charging.

[@stephenspencer8224]

Well done, Sainsbury’s. Very farsighted and practical.

[@iannadin8249]

Great episode, well done Andrew for securing that interview with Sainsbury smart charge product director - very knowledgeable chap. I'd second other suggestions to add the network to the Octopus Electroverse app. Good to see the Nectar points bonus. Hope they'll start to offer xx pence off charging with Nectar in the same way they do for their petrol stations: as a Sainsbury's shopper and an EV driver of nearly 7 years, it's always slightly riled me when the 10p-off-a-litre-of-fuel chitty is printed out at the checkout

[@SmartChargeEV]

👀

[@battyhouse]

Good on you Sainsbury’s to employ such a knowledgeable guy. Very sensible interview, with a view on the future.

[@thevideoark]

Nice production Andrew and Co. Richard is clearly very knowledgable about the wider aspects of EV charging and diplomatic in his approach. I keep checking out two big stores but no luck yet. I look forward to using Sainsburys when on longer journeys. Thanks all.

[@KeithWilliams-h2x]

Usual chilled out video Mr EV, nice one.😊😊

[@PaulNorman80]

Great interview, really insightful and something a bit different. More like this please.

[@stuarthorwood2101]

Good to see UK supermarkets are moving into the 21st century.For several years here in Tenerife all supermarkets, large shops, shopping centres and main public carparks have had free AC charging and many have DC too.

[@chrischarlton709]

I didn't realise these were so new, I've only had my EV since July and have used the Sainsbury's chargers at their Bridgend and Newport stores - very handily located just off the M4 junctions and a cheaper alternative (in terms of food at least) than stopping at the M4 services. I did notice how good the experience was at the time. Keep it up Sainsbury's.

[@Kjillmatic]

Definitely the right way forward, and the charger units are great. But until the prices become even remotely competitive, I just can't see myself using them.

[@roderickmain9697]

After Hotels and restaurants (or close proximity to) and service stations, Supermarkets generally have the parking space to install chargers. IMHO, i think you need to have access to toilets and if possible, snacks ...while you charge. Other than the "do it yourself" option that Sainsburys has done, is it up to users to suggest locations? Tesla certainly have a "suggest a location" on their website. Networks: Electroverse, Charge place Scotland? In fact, the more the merrier for us users. Well done Sainsbury for taking the initiative.

[@rongalbraith5005]

Not sure if you know this but you can use Electroverse cards with Charge Place Scotland charging stations. I think it happened in June/July this year and it made the CPS card that I got, but never got to use, redundant. I only found out when the chargers showed up on the Electroverse app. 😄

[@MrEV]

I agree. With my bladder the size it is, having facilities nearby is essential! I've suggested a few locations to different operators in the past and I've been told why they can't do it each time. Usually it comes down to the hundreds of thousands it costs to put in a hub (or even just a couple of chargers!) and they'll only do it if it's a busy site. What CPOs are always on the lookout for is land owners as it's so difficult to find people with land that'll happily lease it for 10 years. This is where Sainsbury's have a massive advantage.

[@MrEV]

I can't wait to do a Scotland trip to try it for myself! I tend to use Electroverse everywhere.

[@roderickmain9697]

@@rongalbraith5005 I didnt but handy to know. Ive got both cards ;-)

[@roderickmain9697]

@@MrEV I'm sure we can put you up and family up here. (just south of Edinburgh) let us know.

[@Tywyll2007]

Why can't all interviews be like this: practical questions not designed to trip people up, sensible answers, everyone's polite.

[@chrishadaway126]

It’s great what they are doing, but also a shame they didn’t consider a canopy over the chargers with panels on top.

[@johniooi3954]

Many sainsburys stores have solar on the roof.

[@Lewis_Standing]

​@@johniooi3954 wow do they that's great?

[@pauldarrock6863]

Great initiative by Sainsbury's. Can't help noticing the typical BMW parking in the background toward the end of the video 😂

[@theweekthatis]

0-500 is a year is absolutely amazing. Great video Andrew!

[@SmartChargeEV]

🙌

[@Piezochem]

Good to see Sainsbury’s taking charging facilities seriously. Obviously there are other supermarkets with charging but often it’s one or two charge points, often out of order or tucked away in a corner ICEd. Kempower satellites are a great choice as well, small form factor, easy to use and informative. I’m looking forward to seeing more of these popping up in Sainsbury’s across the UK. Thanks for this video, fantastic stuff. Also, amusing to see the BMW in the background living up the the stereotype and can’t park properly despite the generously sized bay!

[@PJWey]

I love that they have a clear strategy

[@sydscrace9046]

That was a well worth watching video Andrew and good to see Sainsbury’s taking a positive step for the masses. It’s also good to see you can pay like you do at their petrol stations without using a fancy card system! I have wanted an EV for a long time but been held back by the faff and my wife’s range anxiety! 🥴

[@grahamgreen9440]

I think that this is the true answer for those without the ability to charge at home. A weekly charge at the supermarket whilst shopping has to be the answer.

[@andrewnicholson9857]

We have had chargers at our Sainsbury's for some time and I have noticed how often bays are ICE'd. It would be interesting to know if Sainsbury's actively do anything to stop this such as making in store announcements to offending car owners.

[@matthewdowning6009]

I just don’t get why people think it’s okay doing that. I never would do this, but can you imagine how it would go down if you parked an EV at petrol station pump and left it there for 30+ minutes. The same type of person that parked in the EV charging bay would be raging. It’s not any different but I bet it is in their minds!

[@SmartChargeEV]

Hey Andrew - we'd love to know which store is your Smart Charge so we can look into this. Our EV bays are for EV charging only and we do enforce this.

[@rigel1632]

Love what they’re doing and hopefully they will keep rolling stations out.

[@alecporter1784]

Great interview and so illuminating, I feel there is so much potential knowledge to be gained from this, like the power infrastructure and all the difficulties in setting up a hub that the Govt could listen and learn. also what a great advert for EVs where you can charge up while doing your shopping.

[@Fearnstein]

Very good interview Andrew. Clear and informative

[@novablacknight1]

Forward thinking company well done sainsburys keep up the hardworking 👏

[@josephmwilliams6754]

I'm in Sainsbury's a couple of times a week but if the majority have charge points going forward it's a very convenient place to aim for . Very informative. 👍

[@tony5101]

Definitely another vote for Octopus Electroverse. 2 forward looking companies should be a match made in heaven!

[@chrispenn715]

Thanks for highlighting this - useful to know, esp for trips away

[@robinwells8879]

Crikey. That’s an impressive development speed. Sainsbury’s can be rightfully proud of that rate. Others could learn from their experience. ❤

[@adrianupnorth]

Electroverse is my preferred card. Good interview and an interesting view from the other side.

[@DB25k]

Thanks so much Mr T for producing this info on the sainsbury charging network, I have been looking at the ones in the south. The one at Chichester is in status coming soon for almost 6 months. But as discussed there are over 60 sites to choose from around the country.

[@MrEV]

6 months?! Ouch - that must be a hold-up with the DNO then.

[@martinwray7001]

A great option for anyone who can't charge at home, but at 10 times the cost of an off-peak home charge 😮. Still a big headscratcher .

[@n1ch0las51]

Great interview Andrew. This is up there with the Fully Charged output.

[@timw1971]

Great video. And well done Sainsbury's!

[@MrHemlock51]

Supermarkets are the perfect solution. Get your week's supply of car electrons along with your week's supply of shopping.

[@simonyapp]

Electroverse network please :). Great interview and i want Richards Job

[@andrewdavies9450]

It’s great to see Sainsbury’s taking the lead. They really have an opportunity to be market leaders if they can reduce the price. 60p a kWh is what I’d be willing to pay. It would be nice to see them partner with Octopus Electroverse.

[@kevsayers8941]

Great to see a supermarket getting on board with EV charging a good payment partner for me and all other Motability drivers would be Go Charge

[@michaelgoode9555]

Watching this I find myself distracted by the terribly badly parked blue ICE BMW in the background. If Sainsbury's bring this to Rugby we will switch our supermarket loyalty as nobody in Rugby offers a decent charging option at the moment.

[@mrpugster]

Yeah I immediately noticed that "parking pig". I'm sure Andrew filmed using that angle on purpose 🙂

[@FFVoyager]

Me too. What I've come to expect from the sort of entitled drivers who think they are more important than everyone else.

[@malcym3394]

It’s a BMW. Together with Audi & Mercedes, they're exempt from traffic laws 😅

[@Lewis_Standing]

The real question is will people divert away from using rugby gridserve or Tesla to use sainsburys instead on long journeys? Because they offer better food, less busy toilets and you could stretch your legs a bit more easily than at the services

[@bartvanhoof6278]

Hehe ... an old lady who doesn't know how to drive ... :) And then there's the BMW driver that does the same thing at 19.26, they're clearly parked over the line and making the adjacent spot a lot smaller.

[@a1peck]

Good interview I wish we had a supermarket like this in Australia

[@dannya6825]

Well done Sainsbury's. Hopefully my nearest branch get these chargers installed cause my Mum has an electric car so it would be a great help

[@mahargrekab]

Great to see progress like this 👍🏼

[@PaulM_aka_4c21]

Excellent interview

[@ObsidianWalker]

Positive stuff here. Hope we see more of it.

[@pwatsonuk]

Very interesting video and great to hear of some of the difficulties from the operator persepective. Electroverse support please! PS Great to see the blue BMW in the back of shot keeping up the reputation for great parking...

[@stephendonker3303]

The chargers look good, and have used once before without a problem. Something reassuring to know that if I go on a long trip I can look for a sainsburys and be able to find a rapid charger that is available and works.

[@DylanShahVlogs]

They got this company doing charging in Watford and it’s been fantastic.

[@ethangates]

Fantastic to see this sort of content!

[@criterian]

Always great to see more charging locations and more competition in the charging space which will hopefully start to bring the prices down. However, 75p is still a long way from the Tesla (open to all) prices at around 45p.

[@dukeofoven]

Great interview, really informative and Sainsburys should be applauded for their foresight. It'll invariably lead to it's competitors having to make similar provision and logically you'd also expect it'll prompt a degree of downward movement in charging cost to the punter as a result.

[@mikeselectricstuff]

My local Sainsburys put in 6 rapids a year or so ago. I've never seen more than 2 in use, and even seeing any there at all is unusual - probably too expensive.

[@mikeselectricstuff]

Maybe the fact that parking needs to be paid puts people off if they weren't already doing shopping there

[@adrianwood2566]

Most people will shop locally to where they live so they are unlikely to be charging. Especially if they have home charging. This is an advantage to a small amount of users but expensive. If you don’t have home charging and do average miles a 30 to 40 min charge whilst you shop once a week is a great way to do it as you utilise down time. There are some in Leics just off the M1 and also on the A1 that I have considered during a journey. Usually I use Baldock on that stretch. Didnt realise they were open when the stores were closed. Would consider Fosse Park next time as it would be cheaper than at McDonalds and probably better availability 😀

[@judebrown4103]

​@@adrianwood2566I think if you are able to charge at home it must seem like everyone can charge at home. I live on an estate that has parking areas with a green in between them and our homes so to us it seems like no-one could charge at home. Consequently chargers in the local supermarket are really handy...or would be if they were not just 7kW or 22kW chargers, often occupied by ev owners who don't plug in! 😡

[@Ian_Woods]

One of your best videos

[@timmybikester2309]

Good video big all I could focus on was the blue BMW parked over 2 bays 😂

[@bellshooter]

Great info, checked my local Sainsburys, and there are 10 new rapid chargers, Wasn't aware ?

[@SmartChargeEV]

See you soon hopefully 🙂

[@saintuk70]

I'm part of the 40% that can't at the moment charge at home, despite my asks to the local authority about on-street charging at lighting columns etc.. Something like Sainsburys looks really interesting, and certainly a good move imo. Yes, it'll cost more but after really positive experiences with a PHEV (yup I'm one of those) i want to make the jump to full EV.

[@peterjones6322]

Have you looked into getting a gulley type of cable access through the pavement ?

[@saintuk70]

@@peterjones6322 no, wasn't aware - will look this up, thank you.

[@DanJHayes]

They should partner with Electroverse.

[@SmartChargeEV]

👀

[@thefishingbikeruk5112]

I did charge my i3 for the first 5 months at a local Lidl until my wall box was fitted at home (back in early 2021). This is perfectly doable for everyone imo.

[@stephenclay6852]

Good interview Andrew.

[@davidspencer7254]

9:30 was going to ice it and changed their mind when seen on camera 😂😂

[@B0jangle5]

That wasn't an ev bay. i think they were nervous about being in shot.

[@GeoffreyTrigg]

Electro verse would be a good team to be with for Sainsbury's for charging

[@cloggsy1971]

Refreshing to see a supermarket installing rapid chargers. The slow 7kW chargers the others install just don’t make sense. A 30/45 min shopping trip would give you a full charge on a rapid, where a 7kW unit, only gives you a few percent. Good video 👌🏻👍🏻

[@jonathankeenan5163]

IMO 7Kw does have advantages. For the same investment most of the car park bays could be covered and slower charging may encourage more frequent visits, which would be good for the supermarket footfall. Upfront cost would be far less so each Kwh could be cheaper, given this was one of the reasons given for the high cost for fast charging. Most people will have travelled a very short distance to be there anyway. I will admit that combining a weekly shop with weekly full charge, for those lacking home charging, is a compelling argument though.

[@chrispenn715]

It seems highly unlikely to me that government will reduce VAT on public charging - they are already seeing a drop in fuel tax income as people migrate to EVs. I also can't understand how the mainstream charging companies claim they have to charge 75p a unit, when Tesla is so much more competitive?

[@GruffSillyGoat]

Adjusting the price if fossil-fuel to kWh the cost of vat/duties is around 8p per kWh (@ 1.36 per Litre), whilst the vat/duties/levies in electricity are 15p per kWh (@ 45p per kWh). As EV adoption grows the electic duites can be reassigned to serve a fuel-duty role instead. This means there is room to reduce the VAT element on EV charging to make it similar in price overall to that of fossil-fuel.

[@chrispenn715]

​@@GruffSillyGoat thanks. That's a useful way of looking at costs. Does it factor in that EV energy use is much more efficient at point of consumption vs fossil fuel? My point being that an ICE vehicle uses perhaps 3 or 4 times more kilowatts of energy to travel the same distance as an EV - hence perhaps currently pays more tax per mile?

[@GruffSillyGoat]

@@chrispenn715 - It factors in the way the government may look at it to generate tax revenue. The way I tend to express the lower efficiency of ICE cars with respect to BEVs, is as a cost to the driver. That of the 8p paid in fossil-fuel duties/vat 4.8 to 6p is wasted (mainly as heat), whilst in an BEV of the 15p in taxes/duties only 0.75 to 2p is similarly lost.

[@Joeb4iley]

Tesla make everything for the chargers in house, the tomb stones, the cabinets, the apps, the billing systems, everything is developed by Tesla. They don’t need to pay other companies to do anything but install the chargers.

[@GruffSillyGoat]

@Joeb4iley - have you replied to the correct post, I cannot reconcile this comment with the discussion above? However, one small point of clarification Tesla do used third-party APIs in their software (some of which is licenced). They also use standards based protocols in their chargers - the CCS protocol is used both in North American NACS and European/Asian/Oceania CC2Combo connectors, plus GB/T protocol in the cars sold in China. I'm not not aware if the use of these standards attracts a licence fee or not (might just be professional and documentation fees paid to the standards bodies involved). Some of the component assemblies in the charger cabinets (common swithgear such as isolators) and charge point pedestals are bought in as well, for example the screens units and the contactless payment terminals on the V4 tomb stones in Europe (the contactless payment terminals have to be from validated providers). Some of the electronics PCB production could be outsourced to industrial partners as well (it's too expensive to perform this in house except for R&D purposes). It's probably more accurate to say Tesla designs and assembles everything in house, but integrated a mix of their own and third-party components defined to Tesla's own specifications.

[@thevideoark]

Oops forgot to mention. I would like to see Electroverse partnering. Please

[@SmartChargeEV]

Watch this space

[@rogerb68]

Great video Andrew and well done Sainsbury's..👍🏻 Also why can't people park properly, note to the lady opposite you in the BMW but living up to their reputation of course..

[@thumper1747]

Great content Andy!

[@decimal1815]

At some point in the next few years we'll have to work out queuing systems for EV chargers. For example, an electronic ticketing system that notifies you when a charger is free (and you're next). It can also notify car owners when their car is fully charged (and time to move off the charger). The Monta app already has this functionality, and others must do too.

[@tonyhale7403]

I must agree, great item to cover but the parking in the background (mainly BMW's) was diabolical !

[@andrewpalmer999]

Excellent, well done Sainsbury's. My local one has got 4 free Pod Point fast chargers that for the last few years have been very unreliable and painfully slow, but I noticed the other day there is some serious work going on in the car park so I'm guessing some decent rapid chargers on the way.

[@SmartChargeEV]

👀

[@rajjy1976]

Amazing parking by the BMW in the background as per 🙄

[@brynphipps8374]

And an easer way to add your Nectar card, as it is quite incontinent, having to go in to find out your number then past it in. ie scanning or swiping the nectar card.

[@bill_heywood]

Really good to see Sainsbury’s installing rapid charger hubs. I hope they deal firmly with anyone ICEing the bays. I really enjoyed the Bimmer in the background parked across 2 parking spaces. Do the BMW dealers teach you that when you get the car? 😉

[@ralpharmsby8040]

We have these in Harrogate - same great set up and facilities. At 75p they are no use to me or others with home charging but its right next to the Yorkshire Showground and Event centre so will be useful for the hundreds of people visiting those.

[@simonpaine2347]

Outtakes at the end are a good idea!

[@enyaq_gorm]

The only thing I disagreed with is that you can grab a coffee and something to eat, they shut all their cafes a couple of years ago so now you can't actually grab a coffee unless there's another retailer nearby.

[@MichaelEricMenk]

One important key to get cheaper charging is to reduce the cost for the operator. One way to do this is for the user to accept aggressive power sharing, maybe only 25kW guaranteed per stall. This reduces grid charges, a saving that can be passed on to the consumer. A 8 stall charging site with 25kW per stall uses 200kW from the grid. If you are alone you get 200kW, if it is full you get 25... The site in the video has cabinets capable of 400 kW over 10 bays/stalls. If all taken 6 cars gets 50kW and 4 cars gets 25kW.

[@Jaw0lf]

Great information on what and how Sainsburys see things going in the EV World. I hope that they will expand into some of the more empty areas where they have stores. I also think the VAT part is more of an excuse as it would help but 10p less per kWh, but it is still expensive. A few years ago we had less than 50p available. We need to get back to the 45p area.

[@MrEV]

Wasn't Instavolt 30p/kWh when they first started? Good times!

[@robbiesargent1416]

Great little video Andrew, thanks. But I think the max power offered by Smart Charge is 150kw whereas the Sainsbury’s chap says they can go to 300kw.

[@MrEV]

Each site is different but this is 300kW for 800-volt EVs. Like my old IONIQ 5. 😭

[@Chris-mh3vf]

In the Whitby area there are no ultra rapid chargers fastest 50kw there is however a bloody great big Sainsbury’s the area needs this

[@davidspencer7254]

Great video

[@stuartgifford8672]

HaHa tried Sainsburys at Stevenage, only 1 charger was working out of 8, and its bloody expensive as well, will not be using them again.

[@MrEV]

😬 Is that a new one? Maybe there were teething issues?!

[@stuartgifford8672]

@@MrEV yes quite possible, shame they are not as cheap as Tesco with there PodPoint charging. But maybe it’s a start and hopefully things will get better and cheaper.