Angel FaceTime | The Steve Dangle Podcast

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast,
00:00 The Leafs lose a scout to the Penguins
24:30 Quenneville, Bowman, MacIsaac reinstated by NHL today
37:00 New Era & the NHL
41:00 VictoryPlus
52:45 Merulo exits Arizona
56:00 Former Nashville Predator Greg Johnson posthumously diagnosed with CTE
1:03:00 Marketing stars and NHL EDGE
1:05:30 Bettman's retirement
1:08:00 McDavid's wood stick
1:14:00 The 24-25 Metro Div
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[@zichenafrog]

Fines should go up in each round. $5000 for embellishment in round 1 playoffs, $10,000 round 2, $20,000 in round 3 and $40,000 in Stanley cup final

[@nolane3972]

players don't care, suspensions are the only deterrent...unless you do like $100,000 fine

[@irubanomlas]

@@nolane3972fuck it, in the new cba they should make it a withholding of 2% of their year’s salary for embellishment during the regular season and 5% during the playoffs (although that might land us in another lockout which would suck)

[@DigitalNomadInvestor]

And not only 1-3 game suspensions. That's a vacation. ​@@nolane3972

[@bmoney544]

Since when do the refs call embellishment anyway

[@michaelcopper613]

@@bmoney544 The refs don't have to call a penalty for there to end up being a fine/suspension

[@user-oi3jz6fv8p]

Thank you, Maddy! I really appreciate your work.

[@bansheerie4537]

It's not that CTE can only be diagnosed posthumously, as I've been diagnosed with it a few years back as a result of two severe concussions. It's just that posthumously it can be diagnosed decisively.

[@ChefC03]

Really surprised not to see any mention of the cap friendly shout out. I thought it was pretty neat.

[@ColtonDenning]

Somebody's gotta tell the boys that it's "Icethetics" and not "Iceletics". This is like the fifth episode they've done this 😂

[@hollownecryb]

I'm stealing "Unfair and Circular". Brilliant.

[@cryptocode88]

That should’ve been the title lol underrated

[@fitzhuu]

I texted this to my bf the second Steve said it, just so I wouldn’t forget it 😂

[@kerrylmatthews]

The NHL equivalent of F1TV exists. It’s just not available to watch in Canada. I’m in the UK and NHL TV costs £120 for the season and I can watch every NHL game. It’s more hockey than I can physically watch.

[@DravenIM]

I wonder if NHL Tv is like ESPN, where the app/site doesn’t work if you’re using a VPN. Just.. curious, ya know

[@b0nez_]

Oh it exists. but even in europe they started selling individual games to other broadcasters. Last playoffs in germany i couldn't watch half the eastern games. Soon they will start selling exclusive rights for the UK too, i am sure.

[@testecalle3378]

I love when Adam and Steve rip on the alt right alpha male stupidity 😂 cause i know our tiktok algorithms are showing us similar stuff in our spare time and its fantastic

[@jarlballin5271]

Proud Canadian but Canada we’re absolutely useless in front of goal, any link up play in the last third was non existent. Our best players simply didn’t show up this tournament. I applaud them on their grit and tenacity, but the talent level was noticeable, especially in attacking play. Glad they made it this far, but they didn’t deserve to win.

[@dapperduck4250]

6:30 *UPDATE* US Soccer has fired Gregg Berhalter (the guy they passed on Jesse Marsch to hire for a second time)

[@jonasgorea3823]

As an American, our usmnt is so poorly ran. It’s actually wild.

[@willflint5014]

This is the first I am seeing of this news and it better be true lol

[@willflint5014]

@@jonasgorea3823agreed

[@B2Roland]

​@@jonasgorea3823most of our national teams are run dreadfully. It's insane. A wealth of talent and resources squandered.

[@surrayyamobeen8666]

The question should be, did they speak to the victims and survivors? Did NHL speak to them before reinstating these guys?

[@alexemerson9886]

I'm so disgusted that they're still sniffing around and the door is open. Almost as disgusting as that trash org picking first last draft.

[@KomatiPoort]

Hearing Steve mention the town I live in is a little surreal lmao. Hello from Campbellford fellas

[@michaelgillam3475]

Argentina played with the same courage they fought for the Falklands

[@Ryuzakku]

They really don’t like it when people say this, but that’s because it’s in their culture to be a victim

[@PenguinsRule_Sometimes]

Unfair and circular!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😏

[@rileystone3017]

"soccer is a rough sport" HAHAHAHAHAH

[@mossly9785]

I'm not giving money to any of the companies that offer paid subscriptions to watch NHL games until they get rid of local blackouts. Paying money each month for the privilege of not being able to watch games is literally asinine.

[@JarradBruessel32]

I'm just lucky I'm a red wings fan who lives in Minnesota and have stopped watching the Wild since guerin bought out parise and suter for "being too buddy buddy with the owner" then goes and gets several former penguins and trades and keeps extending his best friend fleury.

[@higgs31]

Forgot a 4th agent in the agent-turned-executive discussion. Remember Chris Armstrong, the former golf agent who represented Dubas in his negotiations with the Leafs last year? He's President in Utah now

[@yorkhawk3223]

Hey fellas, you should definitely get Rick Westhead back for a summer show.

[@NoremacCSB]

MCDavid absolutely did NOT grow up using a wood stick, at least not for more than a year or two

[@Bleighckques]

1:12:05 On the subject of McDavid catching up to Crosby's accolades, outside of playoff success, McDavid is already ahead. McDavid has 5 Art Ross, 3 Hart, and 4 Ted Lindsay awards. Crosby has 2 Hart, 2 Art Ross, and 3 Ted Lindsay. Crosby has 2 Rocket Richard to McDavid's 1, but that's the only place he's leading. Crosby has one more all-star team selection in total (end of season best team, not all-star game appearances), but McDavid has 5 first team selections to Crosby's 4. And this is all in 10 fewer seasons for McDavid (or 8 if you account for Crosby being out with concussions for the better part of 2 years in his prime). McDavid has also easily eclipsed Crosby's career highs in goals, assists, and points, was only the third player to 100 assists, sixth player to 150+ points, and just put up a top 5 playoff scoring season. Crosby's legacy as a player, a leader, and the face of the league is immense, but on paper just by numbers and trophies, McDavid is either right there with him or a step ahead with hopefully another solid decade or more left in his career.

[@Jaw_sX]

Yaaaay my question got through 😂😂 Let’s go Devils!

[@Chris-tz2um]

I think Alex Meruelo is the Anna Delvey of the hockey world.

[@russell-di8js]

steve the Biter Louis Suarez is still playing for Uruguay! Hi lads from the UK

[@PatrickSchraner]

European no sleep squad!!!

[@7lesstrat]

"Gary, open every door with your head" 😂

[@Magem2]

Sheldon was banished to the Realms of New Jersey, Sending an Angel Facetime about leaving the real NHL

[@Gem____F8]

Steve not knowing who Horatio Caine 😎 is kinda hurt my soul a little bit

[@drakebolton7131]

A way to counter diving in sports is to take the player faking an injury out of the game. If they are that hurt that they cause a delay of game, then you are unable to play cause you are injured.

[@arthurjamesaltmann729]

Bettman's arrogance always felt like--"if you don't agree with me you're an idiot"......for some reason that reminds of the always talkative quarterback for N.Y.

[@mossly9785]

Steve's level-headed takedown of Gary Bettman was refreshing to hear. I totally agree.

[@RealPolo8]

It’s going to cost around $1007 this year. To buy every subscription service, to watch every NFL Game, this year.. 🤯🤬

[@DDWyss]

Since Victory Plus will be bringing free Stars games to fans, will the Steve Dangle KZbin channel be rolling out "Victory Puppies Plus"?

[@hawx_23]

Sheldon Keefe during his video: I have to go now, leafs nation. My planet needs me

[@OvieSnips8]

One thing I like about the Euros is the VAR technology for offside and goal line technology. The NHL could use that very much

[@damedcamera]

I’m at 1:08 I’m wondering on your thoughts of having a term limit on the NHL president? Just like the states, 4 years or something close. I know it’s bringing in more politics but how times have you wondered what the NHL would be like with someone other than Bettman?

[@deltagolavista1]

View Clark's departure, and his view of the organization, from his perspective. He just watched his boss last year, publicly humiliate and fire a good friend. That friend was probably the only reason why he lent his skills to this organization to begin with. What Dubas wanted to do last year, move on from the core four, was the right move then. He watched Shanahan fire his friend, blaming it on *not having the desire* in a single car ride, for that thought of moving on. Clark is watching this organization continue to double down on the core four and lie to it's fan base (everything is on the table) without acknowledging their mistakes and correcting them. That isn't an organization I would want to work for either.

[@johnsummerhill8323]

That is a crock of crap. Not an ounce of truth in it.

[@jonah.donohue]

@@johnsummerhill8323I’m sorry hardcore facts hurt your little brain

[@johnsummerhill8323]

@@jonah.donohue You sure have no clue what the facts are if you believe that pile of dung.

[@jeffer1101]

That's not what Dubas was fired for. There was a deal in place that was pretty much already agreed upon. At the 11th hour, Dubas decided to change the terms and make significant increases in his demands. Shanahan was definitely caught off guard by this action. Shanahan gave Dubas the chance and stuck his neck out for him at every turn. Every opportunity, every decision, stood by him. Then, when it's time to renew the contract, Dubas sticks a knife in him by playing games talking about "not sure if I want to do this" and drags his family into it (using the family card for sympathy). The reality is, Dubas got another offer (Pittsburgh) and decided to use that offer to increase the deal that was already prepared for him. Shanahan felt betrayed that the guy he's backed and supported for almost a decade just pulled that bullshit with him. So he fired him. Like he should have. That's why Dubas was hired by PIT less than 2 weeks later. There was already an offer on the table so he took it. It was a slimy move. Pittsburgh can have him, his poor decisions have done enough damage to the Leafs over the years. The fact the Penguins missed the playoffs his first year there is fitting. Wes will have plenty of time to get to know everything there, the Pens have no draft capital either (the Leafs don't have much either because he handed it out like candy every year).

[@johnsummerhill8323]

@@jeffer1101 You got it right. These people like to make up crap in order to dump on the star players and it is ridiculous.

[@B2Roland]

1:40 of course adam feels this way, it's his entire brand!

[@treysmith1551]

I love how this podcast is slowly becoming the Anti-Penguins and Let Us Schadenfreude Kyle Dubas the Podcast. The obsession is so entertaining.

[@StoriesofWorldWar]

They’ll have a good time doing it too. Pens will be crap for at least 5 years

[@hurtlocker6611]

CAP FRIENDLY IS FINALY GONE TODAY HELLO PUCK PEDIA

[@TheBorilla92]

So did I miss it or did they just not mention that they got a thank you individually and the network in cap friendlys going away message

[@Mistwoodpark]

I’m in Australia and have subscribed to NHLtv and can watch all games live or on replay. Live games I can watch a choice of two carriers, replay is only one carrier. They also do highlight packages of all games. This means I have access to all NHL games right through to the Stanley Cup. This has a reasonable small cost. It’s fantastic! Love the Canadian adverts 😅

[@Oxmustube]

I used to pay me cable provider 30$ or so a month to get center ice in HD. Not enough people paid, so they stopped providing it.

[@Powerpuffgirls4lyfe]

The biggest mistake the leafs made in the last decade was the Tavares signing. Set the tone of the big money core four. They could have kept Kadri / Hyman and used the Tavares money on defence.

[@johnsummerhill8323]

Move on. That was 6 years ago.

[@mossly9785]

I disagree, that wasn't the mistake with the core. That move was incredible and Tavares is an awesome player, even still today. The biggest issue was giving Marner and Matthews too much money and then doubling down on the big money players at every opportunity, despite evidence that it wasn't working.

[@CorrionReap]

​@johnsummerhill8323 tell the team to move on... they are in the same situation still.... one round win.

[@johnsummerhill8323]

@@CorrionReap And season after season with over 100 points. I prefer being in the playoffs rather than being on the outside looking in. I remember lots of those seasons . Regardless of what playoff success they haven't had.

[@3flavourscornetto237]

no the mistake was banking on the cap being inflated then covid hitting and it staying still, don’t be a casual

[@nickfiacco1179]

ESPN+ basically lets you watch any game and choose the broadcast. It just cuts out a lot and they keep jacking up the price. And there’s also random blackouts

[@Acrr01]

really funny note about the head coaching in soccer - the us mens coach got fired today xD

[@alexstanton-lewis7588]

I was born in the uk in 96 and grew up playing with carbon fibre sticks mcdavid definitely had carbon sticks

[@ThomasPuralewski]

Canada had 2 goals the entire tournament, they had more fouls called against them because they played terribly compared to Argentina and them being in the semis says more about how bad most other teams have played than how good Canada has played.

[@ShawnBlaque]

Doesn't matter when we're out performing Mexico and USA with a fraction of the population lol but whatever helps you feel better

[@mandoman1993]

NHL game center yessss. You could watch any game

[@ChaseHadden]

Fanatics is suppose to use the current Adidas jerseys for 2024-25, but with their logo. 2025-26 will unveil their specific design and fabric. I am happy at least that New Era is doing lock room apparel for this year. Their MLB hats are fantastic. Top quality.

[@noahb6846]

The next commissioner should honestly be a guy like Eric lindros or just someone who can push the game forward

[@scorz2010]

jesse with a bad water take, we all know ice water is superior to room temp

[@kimepp2216]

My sportsnet app always freezes when the team I am cheering for has the puck in the opponents end in the last two minutes. Cheers.

[@madelyns9908]

Just start chanting for the other team and your phone will fix it for you 😉

[@Will-eh6xe]

Bettman retiring would be the best thing

[@judistzoinkiski3395]

keep crying. you will just cry about something else when someone new came in. You think Steve and them know whats best LOL they will just cause more problem but i get your a sheeple

[@ItsLaforge]

ive hated bettman but i think in the last year he's really growing the game finally, like the amazon series and a bunch of new fans during the playoffs this year, I despise bettman but he has grown the game the most out of all previous in his role

[@str1fe13]

@RJM1972 The replacement is gonna be Bill Daly and he's going to be exactly the same. A direct continuation of the Bettman administration.

[@hurtlocker6611]

@@str1fe13 Im ok with Bill Daly

[@philipmatsick9274]

Maybe if Wes Clark wanted to leave it’s because the Leafs organization sucks. Yeah you can have the “don’t be here if you don’t wanna be here” vibe. But it certainly seems like several people have left not liking how things are being run.

[@redheron4321]

Yeah their whole conversation had so much cope in it and it's funny really,seeing as they constantly criticize Shanahan's management. Somehow, Clark throws shade and all of a sudden they're like "oh we don't need you, we're so much better without you". I think Leafs' management is in trouble.

[@stevandrljevic8289]

No one from Chile would ever want Argentina to win lol stop about refs being bias because they’re from Chile.

[@killroy123]

I really disagree from 20:00 onward about Dubas. He clearly didn't have the authority to make changes he wanted (could be overridden by Shanny). We'll see more about him as a GM in Pittsburgh. I think his promise was wasted in Tor. The quitting of Wes as well shows theres smoke there. Mgmt isn't looking good for us.

[@Ryan_Wayne]

"Guy who bites people" is Luis Suarez and yes, he is still on Uruguayan squad. 😂

[@Ryuzakku]

I am super excited to have 39Thirty hats be available for every NHL team

[@MMWoodworking]

“Columbus might win the Cup” - Steve Dangle, 2024. We appreciate your belief. It can happen. The canon firing in late May? Who knows. Fire that canon, and thanks for mentioning the Jackets!

[@jchristner82]

So... without linesmen, who breaks up fights? The 1 referee? Lol

[@jakobstevenson1248]

Counterpoint, there was 1? Maybe 2? fights in these playoffs, thats a thing of the past

[@jonah.donohue]

What fights😂😂

[@Meeces55]

​@RJM1972I like that idea, huge padded up dudes who sit on the bench and only go on the ice to break up fights

[@mossly9785]

Aren't fights against the rules? (I'm trolling 😂)

[@letsgokevsto]

@@jakobstevenson1248 There are scrums all the time... Just not full-on fights. Linesmen need to break it up or they'd never stop.

[@mandoman1993]

NHL TV was stunning

[@metalmaiden]

I wish all teams would handle their own streaming. If it's going to be through a centralized app or service, at least give the option to subscribe to a single team's games for a lower price. It's great that I have access to "every" NHL game, but I don't need it. I just want to watch my team play 89 games

[@ThePalisky]

Adam really opening skiing...

[@Crashtest_Fetus]

It's shitty from a technical standpoint but here in Germany NHL TV is still active. Streaming quality is stuck in the year 2006 and sometimes it doesn't work all together but it's something I guess

[@Chris-tz2um]

Adam’s getting pretty loosey goosey with “entire possible”. He’s going to have his own Joe Rogan meme soon.

[@brandonloewen5155]

How can Jesse think that you can’t drink cold water? Like wtf hahaha

[@madelyns9908]

Teeth whitening strips gang 😅

[@nickspencer1220]

Jesse talking about how awesome VAR is was crazy lol

[@fitzhuu]

Adam coming in with bad pizza takes

[@Kraken_What]

The same thing is happening with the Seattle Kraken as Dallas. All the games will be shown on Amazon Prime starting this upcoming season for no extra charge because one of the majority owners is Andy Jassey the CEO of Amazon.

[@ABC-jh6zw]

1:15:57 Adam wanted to call the islanders bad but he forget we got Duclair and a full season of Roy and are destined to win the cup (I'm painfully aware how wrong I am😂)

[@nataliedrake33]

CAMPBELLFORD SHOUTOUT LETS GOOOOOO 🎉

[@FilipeBrasAlmeida]

Keefe from the afterlife 😀

[@montanak833]

Sault Ste Marie mention!!!!

[@blainesleep]

You are wrong on the carbon Fibre stick Adam. I used the oval shaped Koho in the mid to late 80's

[@dolandarkxgrandayy6953]

Steve is the man in the middle again. There is a god, all is right with the world.

[@BruceMcCaughan]

Yes. I live in Japan and can get all NHL games on NHL TV (streamed to my desktop or phone). For about $100 bucks a year.

[@andyholland2130]

Damn, I went to school the same years in high school as Adam. He was getting hosed in high school for sticks. Synergy's were a 118 dollars where I lived.

[@2Jim2u]

Maybe you guys can convince Mr Gretzky into re-buying/re-establishing a team in Phoenix??? How about checking out the bylaws and special requirements to purchase land in the actual City of Phoenix for an arena based business?

[@rileystone3017]

Gretzky, Hull, and Sellane were playing against worse defenders, worse goalies, and worse team-systems than McDavid. All those players were also used to using wooden sticks... McDavid is not used to a wooden stick.

[@Argent3333]

So kyle has people who like working with him Shanahan has people who want to get away from him

[@ScottHowley]

Will 97 win 3 Cups in Edmonton?

[@devonn3278]

Library mention!!

[@jcizzles8661]

Congrats to Wes Clark for making it to the real NHL

[@elninoson5282]

Yay Canada soccer talk

[@QStealth]

New Era getting it are similar to 47 brand making stuff for the NHL. Some teams have had New Era side deals for a while. Also, I have to point out that it's Icethetics (like aesthetics), not Icethletics.

[@drewlally2324]

The whole conversation you had about watching other regional broadcasts on a streaming service is pointless to us in the States because we have ESPN+ that does that. You guys gotta figure out something in Canada

[@icysnax4488]

Confidently saying Mcdavid was born in '98 is so funny given what his jersey number is

[@pocpoc1]

4th* player to get 100 assists

[@Emphatic83]

you could put a pool cue in his hands and he would still find a way to make people around him look bad.

[@chaosrules787]

If you're happy to leave... I'm happy you left.

[@gracehopps6267]

1:15:40 Are the 2024 playoff-making Philadelphia Flyers in the room with us?

[@SURVIVORkid23]

Toe Blake is in the same conversation as Bowman for best coach all time

[@Polecat-pc5oc]

Adam would not supply the food cause he can never remember the apples.

[@brettj544]

I got a Celebrini jersey and fanatics botched it. The numbers on the back are so large it’s somehow touching the name as well as the stripes on the bottom. Have to return it and get another one. Thanks fanatics….

[@AHFP29]

Guys, Fanatics don't hold exclusive license lol.

[@treysmith1551]

Sure there are lots of problems with the Penguins organization. That’s the cost of winning in the cap era. Pittsburgh won its cups in their window. Y’all are speaking on the team’s inevitable shortcomings after the team’s prime has come to an end like it wasn’t the obvious outcome. That’s what happens when you trade picks and continue to remain competitive for longer than a decade. What will happen? What’s the plan? Remain competitive while trying to rebuild for the future is the plan. We will see if that comes to fruition. Nevertheless, Crosby, Malkin, and Letang will go down as the one of the greatest and longest-tenured sports cores in all of sports. They have engraved their legacy. Your team has no picks, the core is falling apart before your eyes, and will be forgotten because Toronto has nothing to show for it.

[@mossly9785]

Lmao

[@ShawnBlaque]

If the hockey world has forgotten Toronto it's because the apocalypse has come and gone. Be thankful for the team's success but learn your place lol they could win 10 cups in a row and still Toronto would be the center of hockey. Do you get it yet? lmao

[@treysmith1551]

@@ShawnBlaque the cores impact will be forgotten not the team.

[@ThEAiRsOfTMaSsAcRe]

No offense but as a large podcast I don't think its a good look to denigrate another podcast off of 1 clip you saw. I know tangentially of lex friedman but he is not an "alpha male type" podcast, he is a long form interviewer who is regularly criticized for his "boring tone". Not to be harsh but just felt the assumption was unwarranted and unfactual

[@davidfitzpatrick6535]

Yeah something I got asked during my Mcdonald's interview and work review (where they review ur work six months after hiring) was "How long do u think you'll be at Mcdonald's?" and I said to my boss "Hopefully a long time! Im hoping to keep this job!" I know they probably asked that because they get a TON of Uni/College students and immigrant workers (usually immigrant Uni/college students) who leave once they're done school but Im 29 and not in school. U probably dont have to ask me that.

[@augustsmith9633]

Canadians propping up franchise chain pizza as "good food" is comical. 🤮

[@ME-nv4iu]

was Wes technically gone right after Dubas got fired? i don't get why he was retained after 2023 draft