Anime Age Doesn't Make Sense

[@judeconnor-macintyre9874]

"no one over the age of 18 would be hanging with Hisoka" Let's be real, Hisoka is the one not hanging out with people over 18.

[@muhamaddanial5376]

Pretty sure he'll be hanging out with kids below 16

[@juanertizer]

today i learned illumi and the spiders are all under 18

[@muhamaddanial5376]

@@juanertizer wait, really?! How?

[@mawatts40]

Only weird kids like gon and killua hangs out with hisoka.

[@Vaedyx]

I’m dying 😂😂😂😂

[@brasteryakintosh9418]

My biggest pet peeve is when the characters are unrealistically young AND they’re in a fantasy or sci-fi setting that doesn’t allow them to take advantage of a school setting. Like if the characters have regular jobs, don’t attend school, and don’t live with their parents, why would you even try to have them be teenagers?

[@mikemorro140]

match with the readers of that demographic plus to be fair other than maybe having parents there was a long time where kids didn't go to school and worked regular jobs

[@brasteryakintosh9418]

@@mikemorro140 I used to be able to buy that, but surveys have shown that the average manga reader is well within their 20's, so I think what's more likely is that it's just convention by this point

[@mikemorro140]

@@brasteryakintosh9418 that might be true but a lot of the series they're talking about are shounen which are aimed at teenagers like maybe those aren't who's actually reading it but that's the demographic they're aiming for

[@esbeng.s.a9761]

@@mikemorro140 Chainsawman is a shounen

[@mikemorro140]

@@esbeng.s.a9761 Yeah and Denji is like 16

[@SwifferTWetJetMop]

So you’re telling me that grown ass man is actually 13. And that woman with impossibly big boobs who looks like she’s in her mid 30s is actually 15. Now they’re beating trained killers in fights and outperforming professionals with 20 years experience and a phd in their field. Sounds about right for anime.

[@Floraclaw]

Also sometimes they would play the Uno Reverse card will you have characters that are like 40 something years old (with two children of their own) and they look like they're 12

[@Edagui97]

At least in Assassination Classroom they are always training for combat and never take on though opponents alone (except Nagisa) and always have some kind of tricks up their sleeve to secure victory.

[@enumaelish9193]

@@Edagui97 The fuck do you mean? Assassination Classroom is a textbook example of this trope, a bunch of rainbow haired children did some pushups and training exercises and start beating grown men with more years of experience than they've been alive.

[@michaelavrel6710]

to be fair, when i was in middle school several of upperclass students does look like they belong in their 20 s or so even though they still 14-15 yr old

[@MAT-wn5fr]

There are so many 15 yr olds that look like adults in our world tho

[@lailab3230]

This is why I love Anya from Spy x Family! I remember reading a chapter and thinking why does she act like this she can read minds why doesn’t she just do this, and then I remember she’s actually like 4 or 5 and that’s how they act and think. And when i realized that it was actually kinda refreshing reading her dialogue.

[@guywithaplan8556]

Same, it's the reason why it became my favorite manga and now anime

[@Netro1992]

I love anya for the same reason. You always get glimpses of her understanding her power is very useful, but she is too young to actually make good decisions with it.

[@MilloSpiegel]

Also in all school settings i realized, the reason Anya is so bad at school is that she is a solid 1 to 2 years younger than her peers. Also for the comedy, that is the other reason

[@theradionicrevival8068]

I wish more people thought like you, tbh it always leaves me scratching my head everytime there’s some new ldiscourse” online about how a certain character from some show or book is behaving Questioning why they’re being so irrational, selfish etc and how these flaws make them worst than the devil due to the ramifications of these flaws All for the character to just be like 12 💀 Characters like amber from invincible, mabel from gravity falls, aang and katara from avatar, lilo from lilo and stich and lisa simpson come to mind off the top of my head. I even see it in how some people responded to characters like Naruto, boruto and sakura at times. Like deadass, I unironically think people have become so desensitized to seeing fictional minors act like fictional to the point where they genuinely can’t comprehend when they realistically act their age. Mainly when it comes to older readers/viewers. Like idk even know how to explain to people how insanely, dumb, petty, selfish, immature and childish kids and teens can actually be. The issue is just when people can’t comprehend this and instead of looking inward “like you did” they just blame the writers and call that bad writing due to their own failure to understand whats even at play. 💀 Of course you’d do something differently than the main characters, you have an omnipotent 3rd person Out of universe perspective that they don’t, alone with years worth of mental and physical experience intelligence. Its not exactly a fair comparison

[@Rishabh149]

Still no logic in the Spy X family For example Loid is a Spy yet does not suspect Yor and her abnormalities Loid literally killed his so called patient in episode 2 in front of Yor (literally throw a grenade on them ) There multiple things that doesn't make sense Still I enjoy Spy x Family so much

[@vianabdullah2837]

Sometimes I forget that the characters in Jujutsu Kaisen aren't college-age. Because they look and are written like people in their late teens/early twenties.

[@FaerieHijacker]

Well, to be fair, the main trio are 17.

[@mikemorro140]

@@FaerieHijacker Nobara is 16 and Yuji and Megumi are 15

[@gnt163]

they didn't have a normal life like a normal teenagers so...

[@bernardoramos7842]

@@gnt163 yeah but they don't look that young...

[@Moon1tan]

Yeah the fact that they look older is jarring but that's probably because we're so used to seeing teens in anime looking like middle schoolers but then suddenly when they're teens they're somehow wayyy different or don't look that different Tho I like the depiction of teens in jjk because there's alot of teens that are quite taller if not just as tall as their teachers

[@DarkusGmoney]

One that bothers me is, when the characters are 15 battling to save the entire world then are offered a victory drink and refuse. Because they “aren’t old enough to drink yet”.

[@Twiska]

I know right. I hated that in Naruto. Child soilders fighting, killing and dying in battle yet alcohol is too adult for them.

[@crazykim]

This. I need more animes with teenagers where they're just like "Yeah fuck this shit I've been through a lot I'll take you up on that drink" like an actual fucking human would.

[@thereseavanastrea4662]

@@crazykim this kind of shit gets sensored . Back in re:zero at the first episode when Subaru met the geezer Rom he actually drank with him in the novel but they removed it in the anime after Subaru said fuck it and just drank it .

[@veskascito]

Thats less of a creative choice and more of the Japanese regulators and studios being jumpy at on-screen underage drinking. "Something, something, bad example for the youth" and all that stuff

[@sax7760]

@@crazykim Eren Yeager just straight up chugged it when Pixis gave him the booze, although he spat it out in the later frames.

[@mikeindiacharliehotelalpha2373]

Just wait until you hit your late 20s and realize that you're supposed to have Kakashi levels of competence / professionalism by now.

[@flameking2178]

I mean to be fair, in Naruto and in a lot of fantasy anime, you are literally trained from childhood to do a specific task, have access to a ton of resources if you demonstrate competence, and are given practical experience immediately once you become skilled enough despite your age (like how they were adding 15 year old geniuses to their special forces). So in that case, if you trained from elementary school, had 20 years of experience, and were able to apply that experience as soon as your were able without having to worry about labor laws or resources, then you realistically could reach that level at late 20s especially if you were naturally gifted in that field. So basically, in anime 30 is equivalent to 40 since you start training in your discipline from 8 instead of 18. Once you add 10 years to all anime characters, suddenly their looks and behaviors start making perfect sense. That only applies to fantasy stories revolving around a single activity though. I've got no way to explain animes like Tokyo Revenger.

[@randomduck8679]

@@flameking2178 Not to mention back then (real world not Naruto), young people had more responsibilities. It was the norm to marry at 18 and WW1 had teenage soldiers.

[@matthew_natividad]

Bonus points if your Asian cuz I still look like I’m in high school for a 25 year old

[@scientia.veritas]

@@randomduck8679 teenage soldiers in World War 1 were still teenagers. And the psychological scarring the war did to them was a lot worse than on adult soldiers. Unlike anime where you are 13, lose loved ones, battle boss villains, save the world, and then turn to be perfectly healthy adults.

[@QWERTY-gp8fd]

@@scientia.veritas this is why evangelion is the good shit. child soldiers breaks down instead of turning into badass veteran

[@korinthian7313]

I am so sick of seeing 13 year-olds with 30 years of tragic backstory. Already been through 2 wars and gone BACK to school. I mean come on. Cowboy Bebop did way better by writing their characters older.

[@diiii_mond]

Seriously though. I don’t get why every character needs to be a kid😂 it works just fine with young adults

[@Journeyagain0]

Right. Can we get an anime with actual adult characters who look like their age?

[@guywithaplan8556]

@@Journeyagain0 Sadly, I think it's because of the appeal Japanese Mangakas make manga that take place during high school because that's what gives them and the audience a nostalgic look back to their fond school memories, it appeals to them more atleast, that's what i've heard, anybody is to feel free to correct me

[@Alex-bw6yd]

Imagine if they were like, oh you thought Spike was in his 20’s? Nah bro he’s actually 15.

[@applel2.043]

I mean , there are some kid that had gone through more tragic stuff then some adult . I bet an orphan have a more tragic backstory than a Reddit mod

[@toufusoup]

It is either “I’m a 5 year old who has seen the end of time twice” or “doesn’t matter, going to jail, because this put me on a watchlist.”

[@elijahmcfarland3487]

This is why I love Digimon is so sacred to me, because unlike Ash Ketchum, these characters grow up and consequences of them aging has toll on their interactions with the Digiworld. Like in the film of 2020, those chosen to become DigiDestined have to be children in order for Digivices to function. Once they reach adulthood, that power ends up fading and the partnership between them and the Digimon will ultimately have to end.

[@yunogasai1338]

I cried so hard. I watched kizuna with my fiance. It was a pretty respectful end for the original team.

[@misterentername8869]

im sorry to you guys, ive never watched digimon but digidestined digivices digiworld is making me laugh my ass off

[@bukojoetheslapsoils8273]

Hopefully, Ash starts growing up after he become the World Champion. The Masters 8 is so hype.

[@TTwaTTT]

I almost digidied from laughing while reading this.

[@ladyhero8528]

Am I the only one, who gets pissed off when there is a group characters in a fantasy anime or a JRPG, and you have that one character who the cast always make fun for being "an old man" or "can't keep up" or call female characters "too old to date".....and they're only like 25 or 30 years old, like WTF (I'm looking at you Tales of the Abyss!)

[@princessdawn718]

Ngl I actually thought you would’ve said Raven from Tales of Vesperia, I’m assuming the Abyss example refers to Jade Either way I also don’t really like that trope…

[@key099able]

Cid looks like in his mid 40s in FF7 but actually only 32.

[@faimist8993]

About the female character too old to date statements, I believe one of the reason to explain this is that we asian have a cultural thing going on with the older generation. Our parents expect us to marry young and have kids before 30s. My mom made a big deal about the fact she had me after she passed 30s. Another instance is when I watch news about a four years old kid got bit by a dog. I was surprised that the mom, who is 28 years old atm, had the kid when she was just 24. However, my mom said that’s perfectly normal, which made me shock. Of course this is just anecdotal evidence, some asian countries out there may not take this as seriously but some may be even worse. For example, I suggest you to google leftover women in China, it is quite ironic because there are 20 million more men than women in China.

[@djlilizzybeats]

Bro this was exactly my experience with 999. Everyone was constantly talking about how Lotus was an old hag despite the fact that she was drawn to look 25 maybe 30 at the absolute oldest and was the best looking female character in the game.

[@karnakua8054]

*Coughs in Hiratsuka-Sensei*

[@realnova7429]

I was super impressed by Anya from SpyXfamily for actualy acting like a 5 years old, I was so sure she would start to do some megaming codebreaking shit.

[@Mario_Todorov]

I feel like the characters in 3-gatsu no lion(March comes in like a lion) acted perfectly for their age. We have younger and older teens and adults all acting realistically

[@ajiththomas2465]

I see and salute a fellow man of culture. One thing that made _March Comes In Like A Lion_ so good is its verisimilitude.

[@Ash_Wen-li]

Fun fact: Umino Chica the Mangaka for 3-Gatsu actually helped Miura write his female characters in the Millennium Falcon arc. I suspect she had a big role in helping Miura write Schierke

[@ajiththomas2465]

@@Ash_Wen-li Based Umino Chica and Based Miura for being humble and self-aware enough to ask for a subject expert's advice on writing something he wasn't all that knowledgeable in, in relation to his magnum opus _Berserk_ .

[@F1ll1nTh3Blanks]

@@ajiththomas2465 That word, I like it. I will use that now. Verisimilitude.

[@FaerieHijacker]

Sangatsu is a good example. Others are Pingpong, Hinamatsuri, Mushishi, Violet Evergarden, and WataMote on top of my head.

[@mr.goblin6039]

Age in anime fucks me up. You look at characters who look like absolute chads with John Cena muscles or the thiccest of bad bitches that put Nicki Minaj to shame… and then they go “I’m in high school”. Never change, Japan. Never change. LMAO

[@gyneve]

Bakki.

[@Floraclaw]

Ever seen mob psycho 100? The body improvement club is full of 6'0+ chads built like a tank and they are in middle school

[@bernardoramos7842]

@@Floraclaw but that is a comedy thing so i can understand that.

[@Floraclaw]

@@bernardoramos7842 that's true, though the argument is characters looking/acting nothing like their age. (Genre or not)

[@crash-ew6hw]

@@Floraclaw isn't it because they workout and eat healthy every day and that's why they look like that

[@bocodamondo]

from what i get, the main reason alot of animes have their main characters young, is an attempt to make them relatable to the anime's core target demographic, which is usally kids between 12 to 16 age and its always annoying when those characters dont even look or act like kids, the number is only arbitrarily put on them for that relatability attempt

[@raulrojas9253]

To this day I still hate that Luffy will become king of the pirates as early as maybe 19 or if a year finally passes at his 20, that's so fucking young. I know the whole point of the "worse Generation" is that they have come so far and so fast being so young.

[@bfg4573]

@@raulrojas9253 atleast luffys an adult now but yea I get what you mean

[@officialee98]

i would say it depends on the plot of the anime tho, when you are 13 , 14 , your anime preference is different from let's say when you are 8 , 9 or 21, 22 . some anime have really good plot and characters and some are just ridiculous

[@johnnychannel-el1gg]

@@raulrojas9253 to be fair he was trained at young age by his grandpa, also he fight many animals at young age with ace and sabo

[@DarkHunter047]

Arguably, the older audiences, +18, are more relevant from a financial standpoint since they can buy more merch.

[@VioletLunaChan]

Honestly, what pisses me off the most is when they refer to 20-30 year old characters as "old". Or "Past their time". Mfs be calling 22 year old girls "old hag"

[@uwu-ge6oj]

if you didnt save the world at least once before age of 20, you're a failed adult

[@muhamaddanial5376]

I mean, people who's 30 is still considered young tho...

[@yelloe]

Lol well for a 13 year old, 22 would be considered old to them. I thought the same thing about people in their 20s until I was like 16.

[@muhamaddanial5376]

@@yelloe i thought people was old in they're 20's when i was 7 lol...

[@bullymaguire431]

@@yelloe Nah it’s only anime bs . Kids don’t think anyone old if they don’t look old

[@Heroism4499]

Anime: 15 year olds that act like 25 year olds Netflix Live Action Shows: 25 year olds getting type casted as 15 year olds.

[@mikemorro140]

I'm kind of with Garnt where I've become just kind of desensitized to it plus the same thing happens here with Harry Potter or Percy Jackson and stuff, things targeted at kids and teens will usually star kids and teen it's not that crazy, I guess it's a little worse in Japan because it's something like 70 or 80 percent of anime is about teens but idk I kind of got over it early on

[@clementgoh9270]

Tbf as the books continue, they begin to acknowledge that “oh right, these are children going through trauma”. It’s not the best but Luke’s thing was that he doesn’t want children to go through quests and risk their lives for uncaring gods

[@ManuelRodriguez-zg6ze]

@@clementgoh9270 Honestly the entire Heroes of Olympus series just shows that Luke was right in that quests really shouldn’t be placed on people so young, considering what Percy and his friends had to go through and all the sacrifices that had to be made.

[@mikemorro140]

@@clementgoh9270 idk about that it seemed like Luke was more upset that the gods were just neglectful than that they were sending kids out there hell there were kids in his army.

[@theradionicrevival8068]

I get what connors saying though (but I disagree on his naruto point a bit) Essentially what he’s saying is just that that aspect is perfectly fine when the universe itself is built around that in such a way where it doesn’t make you call the age logic into question. His issue only comes when its just a haphazard thing thats just thrown in and doesn’t gel with the world, nor add anything to it, so it breaks his immersion. To its credit, it IS odd to have a seemingly realistic world, with one specific thing out of the ordinary thats never established or questioned but the universe still tries to tote itself as if its realistic. Its probably why a guy like connor might have 0 issue with sentient stands or aliens being confirmed things in jojo, but flips at stuff like revengers ages. I only disagreed on the naruto one because i felt like the way the world is built, it makes sense that the kids wouldn’t quite talk or act like the kids of our world. I can’t imagine any child soldiers raised to kill behaving the same way i did when i was 12

[@LuciusHill]

With You Lie in April, I think I just convinced myself they were 18 going off to uni, instead of middle school going off to high school. When the boys said they were middle school kids, I, who have seen it three times, refused to believe it until I searched it up... I do that a lot with anime now that I think about it

[@TheRedAzuki]

Wow that kinda ruins the show a little. XD it makes it seem like the entire story is just two preteens being dramatic after hanging out for 3 months. (I know the story is lot bigger deal than that.. but if it was contextualised in reality that's how it would appear)

[@theobuniel9643]

Funnily enough, in the live action movie all of the main characters are aged up to be 17-18 years old.

[@jiraffe9600]

How did you watch it and not catch they were middle schoolers?

[@SkyTheGuy8]

@@TheRedAzuki an aged up kosei definitely makes his tragic backstory and retiring from piano make much more sense

[@chenstormstout9456]

Always thought the MC backstory was strange. Just the way he told it was weird. ProZD even jabbed at it in a skit when he reveals the character is like 13 and he just says “children don’t talk like this.”

[@hillalahmadzai9042]

Sometimes I wonder who's providing the financial support for these highschool main character teens who live by themselves lol

[@TKTKTK99]

It's probably the student council. They hold all the power in the anime world.

[@hillalahmadzai9042]

@@TKTKTK99 😂😂😂 they have more authority then teachers which are non existent.

[@fardosasalat8800]

@@TKTKTK99 you just made my day 😂😂😂😂 and I can't stop laughing 😭

[@obiarne]

It's usually the parents working abroad. I see a lot of school anime where the MC is complaining for example or calls his father/mother to get extra cash when needed.

[@Urube23]

It's common in Japan for high school students to move into their own apartment, especially if the school is far away from their home. They get allowances from their parents.

[@ChrisJoestarr]

My problem with Tokyo revengers beside the time travel nonsense, was where is law? The parents? The adults? Why nobody has family? Why are they able to get away doing whatever they want without any répercutions of the outside world?

[@hayolooo7506]

Well some of them in jail tho

[@vietkhanhhoang16]

Haha i hardly remember a main shounen char with a family. It is a saddening fact that at their teenage kids are all about how to be cool in school and how to impress their crush. They would put their family somewhere in their subconscious and easily take them for granted.

[@ClasherofWorlds]

well most of the time they're able to get away before the police catches them and in the times that they didn't, they were arrested

[@walterHonwana]

Well, that lil banana headed asshole Kazutora went to jail, twice. And Drakken got the chair in a future timeline

[@safanadira3225]

Well from few character background they either had shitty parents,orphan , poor ,or simply don't listen to their parents like most teenagers do

[@m.farrelnugroho5504]

Im 16 and everytime I see characters my age in an anime, I always think: "goddamn, am I really supposed to be this mature??"

[@biblemansings]

I was the same way. Now that I’m 20 I still see like 15yr olds in anime that look more mature than me.

[@bloodlove93]

depends on the person... but on average, no. you're rather normal and standard in that regard. most don't have any significant differences or advancements over others, and fewer still among those that are willing to reveal themselves, and yet even fewer who society will embrace and accept. why else are incredible poets,philosophers and such so rare? most dead or forgotten.

[@user-garnet]

Hahaha, same, The whiplash is absolutely intense. I guess I’m just too used to characters being older than me

[@thekamotodragon]

i think it's just that Japan EXPECTS their children to be that mature, competent and experienced by these ages, not that it's reality, so they write their characters to be like their ideal. I think they just have a higher standard for teenagers than the rest of the world.

[@NuukaYT]

​​​@@thekamotodragonNah, I think it's because it's already engrained in most of the authors. Older manga and anime, where there are a lot of them that do target kids and teenagers with appropriate character ages and stories, I remember watching a lot of old 90's anime for kids. Cooking Master Boy is more appropriate for kids than Shoukugeki no Soma, even though the main characters are around the same age. These kids have grown out of that phase and now want to write their own stories with these specific features in mind. But they also want to put their wildest ideas forward without being constrained by what kids or teenagers actually like. The author got older, but the character they loved when they were kids did not. Or this is just my nostalgia talking. Are kids anime still a thing? Edit: I guess it's somewhat similar to "edgy-fication" in the magical girl genre. Where these authors grew alongside these shows. Now they're older and still love magical girls, but they also want to put their own spin then other authors follow and now it becomes its own trope. Obviously these examples are from the anime that I grew up with. I don't know what the experience of other people is like. Especially from someone older than me.

[@dramaking9559]

Anime logic: - They're 12 and have large breast - They're a strong miltary organization. Their uniform is obviously 80% naked - The loli shown is for some ungoddly reason 500+ years old and usually half naked instead of growing - highschoolers = Most Hot - Young men from the age of 2 to 25 are usually seen as cute or hot any older then they are seen as creeps or fat bastard - BREAST AND CLEAVAGE EVERYWHERE

[@walterHonwana]

I know right? It's so refreshing when an anime/manga doesn't tick a single one of these boxes

[@dramaking9559]

@@walterHonwana very hard to find though

[@servus_incognitus]

Damn just made me realise I actually hate 99% of anime

[@dramaking9559]

@@servus_incognitus im curious. Whats the 1%?

[@torchlight1785]

Yeah its disturbing that a 12 year old would have an 18-23 year old body. This seems like the most common thing in anime that I have noticed.

[@notaball518]

Reminds me of Lookism, a Korean manhwa where the characters don’t look their age, yet get into gang fights, have double bodies, and it’s genre feels as it’s normal. The premise and story can be ridiculously similar to Baki at some points

[@walterHonwana]

Yeah, I was talking to my friend about this the other day, how Samuel, Vasco and especially Jerry were the most unbelievable as teenagers

[@Victoria-dh9vb]

Man, I kept up with that for quite a while, but it got too weird for me around the God Dogs archs. It just felt like sh*t had gone off the rails and the author no longer had an over arching narrative in mind anymore. Idk man, I feel bad for having dropped off it, but there's so much competition out there that it's hard to stick it out when a story gets into the weeds...

[@aus-li]

@@Victoria-dh9vb Haven't read that one, but I stopped reading Korean comics years ago, and I was there for the beginning of it, before it started to trend. The reason why is because the authors don't know how to end a story, and go on forever with it, which it ends up defeating the purpose of the characters and story...cause you know, it was pretty consistent in the beginning. Same with the Chinese comics; so now I just stick exclusively to manga.

[@chaitanmallick7339]

@@aus-li not all tbh, good chunk of what i read from webtoons are some of the best/creative ending i ever read. Agreed, majority of the author have difficulties with writing ending ( some of my most favorite ones completely ruined by bad ending), you can also find equivalently perfect series. Well, what I observed that Series having length ch 80-150 most likely concluded with good endings and for me psychological thrillers are some of the best genres in all manhwa.

[@resolvedfate9999]

Similar to Baki how?

[@austinuhr8459]

I don't think that criticism really holds up for Erased. Kayo isn't solving anything; she's just trying to survive, and acts like a traumatized child most of the time. Satoru's 29, so obviously he's exempt. I think Kenya falls a little bit into that, but not so much that it breaks my suspension of disbelief. The rest of the kids act like kids

[@robdaconnect6949]

I didn’t get that one either

[@clowdy9355]

Kenya definitely falls into that, people don't realize how dumb and immature primary school kids are. I staright up never have met a primary school that talked and tought like him.

[@ShadowNeo_2]

I totally agree. I didn't get why Erased was given as an example for this argument. I really liked the anime and it didn't make me feel that the characters didn't act their age.

[@gianchaves4392]

*K-KENYA?*

[@crobeastness]

for me its made in abyss. i had to stop watching because i couldn't get passed the little kids doing all the stuff they were doing and every adult they pass by just letting them do their thing.

[@hylash5444]

The reason Tokyo Revengers' mangaka made all of the characters so young is because he thought that only 13 year-olds would have so much freetime to mess around fighting so much. One enemy gang in the manga was full of 18 year-olds and one of them said something along the lines of "Most of us in our gang are basically adults so we have to start going to college and have jobs and shit so we can't keep play-fighting with little kids on our freetime forever"

[@impyrobot]

Only in Japan 😂

[@hylash5444]

@@impyrobot exactly

[@pakxenon]

It either comes down to cultural differences or forgetting that as kids we used to read "light novels" in the west, too. What are Nancy Drew and The Hardy Boys? Animorphs and Goosebumps? All these digests we used to read as kids and the variety of scenarios they were involved in, we now digest the Japanese equivalent but as jaded adults.

[@sleepysera]

The ones I'm familiar with at least TRIED to explain why children keep ending up in crazy situations and try to deal with them however they can. Stuff like, their parents being investigators so they follow them around for kid-inappropriate stuff and the like. When anime does the same, it feels less jarring to me too. Something like Case Closed/Detective Conan for example, where many of the cases involving the ACTUAL children tend to be about more harmless stuff like going on a for fun treasure hunt or finding a missing pet, and the ones that actually do involve proper scary stuff like murder and crime is usually specifically because they tagged along with Kogoro, the actual, adult detective (usually without permission, because they were curious and sneaky as kids just are).

[@jamestomato1744]

I'm not entirely certain about this, but from what little knowledge I have about the Animorph's at least from a retrospective, the books were actually kinda messed up. The kids, as they got older, were really screwed up from all the fighting they had to do against the Yeerks. One of them, Rachel, basically became an action-addled adrenaline junkie who enjoys combat and is to some degree obsessed with it (like a high of sorts) (now I'm not actually sure if this was what happened per say, as I got this info from a youtube retrospective video - so take what I say with a grain of salt). So at least with Animorph's, it was more like an exploration of what would happen to kids in that setting, while also appealing to the specific demographic.

[@Spartan8676]

To be fair naruto is a completely different world and culture where that's normal child solders exist irl

[@nulnoh219]

They took the idea of "Age is just a number" and dialed it up to 11.

[@CelenalPkb]

Yes please, Golden Time was such a goddamn banger. I remember late in highschool I would talk online about it and too damn many people were quick to call them out as "acting like stupid kids" and "too bratty". Some of these people I knew in real life and it's just... have you looked in a mirror lately? YOU act far more stereotypically "college" and you're the same age or older. Beyond the story itself, the first ED is to this day my favorite lighthearted themed one of all time. Those opening piano notes...

[@acctrsh]

This is how I felt with "The Detective is Already Dead." I thought the MC was an adult since he was getting his own plane tickets and had a pretty nice suit, not to mention his relationship with the police and world view. Then it turns out this man is in like middle school or early high school.

[@marshallseldon4200]

Honestly I don't really pay attention to a characters age mostly due to the fact that in many anime doesn't have that be a main contribution to whatever story it is trying to tell (that and it could also be an aesthetic choice that the author wanted to do).

[@りみとれす]

Ranking of kings was actually popular before anime the anime started in Japan. whenever you open a random Japanese website there would always be an ad for the ranking of kings manga series and it was impossible to see a website without the ad.

[@DeadHaremGuy]

I'm still just happy that the majority of the main Fairy Tail cast are 17+, cats, or clearly not acting like an adult.

[@itsmefm]

Yes!

[@faizfuad8361]

The only thing that irks me is the power of friendship pulled out of nowhere, everytime, even within one episode where they first found conflict

[@DuffyDevil]

@@faizfuad8361 it isn't out of nowhere, it was explained at the beginning of Fairy Tail that magic is powered by emotions and positive emotions are stronger than negative emotions

[@CrimsonCharan]

@Ewan Wright True, but boy howdy did that show drag that concept and dived head first into the fucking abyss with it.

[@sirhellsing]

@@DuffyDevil while madoka is the opposite lol, Kubey is literally farming negative emotions

[@diiii_mond]

Why don’t we get stories about actual adults anyways? Lmao There’s no reason every character needs to be a high schooler or child

[@Ash_Wen-li]

There's lots you just have to broaden what you watch. Mainstream stuff is aimed towards kids and teens because that's the biggest audience in Japan. Therefore most characters are around those ages.

[@keinen.0824]

Spy x Family is the Great Example of Adult Main Characters

[@NopalTheRock]

There're a lot of great seinen manga but never got an anime adaptation

[@shyguy5473]

Off the top of my head Monster is the only one with an adult main character. There is a manga called My dearest self with Malice Aforethought with the main character studying in a University. Grand Blue is also set in a University where all the characters are adults.

[@Ash_Wen-li]

@@shyguy5473 Legend of the Galactic Heroes, Space Brothers, Monster, Mushishi, Shouwa Genroku Rakugo Shinjuu, The Rose of Versailles, Spice and Wolf, Area 88, Ghost in the Shell: SAC, Patlabor Series, Vinland Saga, Baccano!, Kaiji, the Tatami Galaxy, Cowboy Bebop, Golden Kamuy, Run with the Wind, Nana, Welcome to the NHK!, Odd Taxi, Planetes, Psycho-Pass, Serei no Moribito, Steins;Gate, Wolf's Rain ect. For manga there's Berserk, Vagabond, Real, Monster, 20th Century Boys, Pluto and many more I haven't read There really isn't a shortage of anime/manga with adult main characters. This is just a list for your anyone else's reference.

[@spiderdude2099]

I think characters that age are written like genius savants, because…..that’s what Japanese teens either Want to be Or See themselves as So many Asian teens have really been sold on the “child prodigy” trope and self insert characters, that when they see these kids their age acting and talking like Nobel peace prize winners, it strikes the chord with them of either “I have been told my whole life I need to be like that at my age” or “I think I’m the shit and am actually that cool and learned at my age”

[@user-hu6he8ww5w]

I get it, if a show takes itself seriously but has daft ages or scenarios it just won't work

[@ericjoel5363]

The naruto one is believable, in that specific setting they were in times of war/very few years after the war (they would still be weary) and they were forced to train kids to be ninjas and kill to be able to have enough man power. Also aren’t the uchiha’s feelings in a w ay different/ more obsessive towards them since it causes the reaction in their brains/optical nerves

[@felix7720]

They were trained from the age of 6 to be soliders/ninjas and they're 12 at the start, not 10. Tokyo Revengers doesn't make sense, but people need to take character's environments they grew up in into consideration. Of course a typical 12 year old wouldn't act like that, but they definitely weren't raised as typical kids. Also, you're totally right about the Uchiha. They become obsessed with revenge very easily.

[@chapri_from_chapra5443]

But they cant drink alcohol because they are kids

[@abhijitpadhi625]

Nah, I don't care. In no age or time period do kids of 11 years old behave like that. They can be trained to fight, yes, but psychologically they still aren't that mature.....

[@felix7720]

@@abhijitpadhi625 How many child soliders have you met before? You act like they raise children the same way we do. They were 12 years old from the start of Naruto and they had been training since they were 5-6 for war. Part of the reason their children can be trained so young is because of chakra. You start training kids to do this for 100s-1000s of years evolution would adapt. It's not that unbelievable, you grow up faster mentally depending on your environment. By your logic Reiner, Annie and Berthold wouldn't have been as mature as they were either when they attacked Paradis, Same thing with Gabi and Falco when they infiltrated Paradis.

[@abhijitpadhi625]

@@felix7720 For one, Gabi and Falco aren't mature AT ALL. If you think Gabi and Falco are mature, then you haven't been paying close attention when you watch AoT. All their actions (especially Gabi) are that of stupid kids trying to do things they shouldn't. So you even saying Gabi and Falco being mature is laughable. And also Reiner, Annie and Berthold weren't mature as well. They were just scared kids with a lot of power doing what they are told because they were afraid of being eaten back in Marley if they failed their mission. By the time they mature a little, they have aged to ages of 15-17 (in season 1-3 of AoT) and 19-21 (in the final season). The flashbacks show how immature and scared they were when they first came to Paradis. Isayama has created these characters PERFECTLY as per their ages. As for Naruto, Sasuke taking on the responsibility to avenge his whole clans murder, at age of 11-12, without any outside pressure to do so or anything (like Marley did to Reiner and the others in AoT) is a JOKE. Seriously, you just sound like the typical toxic Naruto fan unwilling to hear any criticism of the show. When in reality, Naruto is a mediocre show at best (unlike AoT which you mentioned)

[@_rooibosp9735]

Most of the shows they talk about is from 少年漫画 meaning comic books for boys. They are mostly targeted at people under 16. Therefor publishers will always have a incentive to make the characters younger than 16, and making characters relatable to the main reader. Even if the writer wanted the characters to be more older, he will be willing to sacrifice that to have his manga serialized on famous Weekly Manga. The age settings of characters are the age that the weekly manga is targeted at. It is not based on the physical/mental matureness of the character. Even though Japanese anime seem to be in one category they come from different media with different targets. The manga artists may have had to alter the age to have there story published in any weekly manga. There life depends on wether or not they get the story published, so they will be happy to alter the age depending on the target. When you think of the staring point every successful manga artist once stood, it seems kind of cruel to point out anime age settings making no sense.

[@SoniQ93]

I see what they are getting at in terms of making a character's age fit their actions and setting. That being said, I almost never pay attention to how old an anime character is, mostly because their age is rarely relevant to the story of whatever show they are in.

[@marshallseldon4200]

same.

[@Spartan8676]

Same I never ever realized how young they are in erased

[@Pixey003]

i completely agree but tokyo revengers is the one exeption were it did take me out of the emersion a bit. I had to look up how old middle schoolers are in japan multiple times because i thought the show got it wrong or that middle schoolers were older in japan or something lmao, a thing like that never occured to me while watching naruto for example despite the characters being extreamly young.

[@marshallseldon4200]

@@Pixey003 It should be noted that every teen IRL acts differently due to many factors that happen in their lives (how you were raised, the environment you grow up in, what influence you to do this thing, etc). As such some teen can act older and more mature than some adults do (especially ones that are consider man-child) and the fact that the term "child prodigy" exists is saying something.

[@Exolvee]

​@@marshallseldon4200 To be fair I would call 14yos partaking in gang wars anything but mature. Child prodigies earn this title for their early advancements in academics not their maturity/wisdom. Connor's example of Gon being a hunter prodigy but still acting like a kid is a good fictional one. But yeah, there are kids who start thinking about stuff besides stinky monke memes rather early.

[@lampshade6579]

The point of Tokyo Revenger characters being young if for the following reasons. 1.) They needed to be in a school setting, so they could be a delinquent and also highlight how cruel even young biker gangs can be, which the author was apart of one. 2.) The main characters needed to be mainly younger than the other gang members, who also need to be in school, to highlight them being a young prodigy in the gang world. 3.) SPOILERS they needed to be young enough where there can be a time skip later to them being young adults, to show the decline of Mickey, and also highlight how mistakes even in adolescence can effect adulthood. Overall I don't think making the characters young is a big deal, aslong as nothing illegal is shown (Unless it's to highlight the cruelty of an act, like in Berserk) than I see it as completely fine. The parents not being involved is as simple as them just not being there, it's fiction it doesn't need to make sense. Like how it doesn't make sense why super heroes don't constantly see and help each other in comic books, or how it doesn't make sense why every late shogun era manga doesn't have guns, which existed then. somethings are just supposed to be "It doesn't matter" in stories.

[@andrewmott2166]

Thank you! Anime is not real why the heck does something have to be 100% believable to happen in real life for one to get invested? It's just entertainment

[@Indeeee]

Still it sucked.

[@euwi]

why middle schoolers instead of Highschool?

[@senritsujumpsuit6021]

What I loved about the OG HxH was all the character moments like Leorio passive aggressively stopping Gon from getting himself kidnapped while still eating an Apple then we have a episode were the B plot is Killua buying to much candy XD

[@champiggyfrm_pig5271]

My favorite instance of characters not acting their age is koi to senkyo to chocolate. So they have a student council who's literamly the parlament they have a huge room and I swear there are like a hundred members, and the best thing is they have corruption problems and one student gets literally murdered because she was investigating a case of money laundering in the student council

[@chronicCid1]

It used to bother me too but after awhile I started to age up the characters in my head when it makes sense to. Like if its a story with heavy subtext and lessons to learn I just make them a couple years older so it makes sense to me.

[@bluelfsuma]

That is why anime appeals to many teenagers. It depicts their age group as smart, sexy, and strong as a lot of them think they and/or their peers are. I remember feeling the same about my attractive classmates as the actors in my mom's romcoms. They were all just pretty people that I wanted to... hold hands with.

[@kotabear0172]

I love haikyuu purely for the fact that they all act like immature kids who just started high school. Its so fun watching them act like how i have acted and seen kids act in thier early teen years, haikyuu did the age writing so accurate and amazing

[@runhigh123]

I completely agree with Tokyo Revengers, while the plot(story) is really good, they should have been high school students because no viewer older than 16 would care about 14 year olds gang (even doubt that they would ride motorbikes and gang fight) But disagree with Your Lie in April, because I happened to see a lot of those prodogies and they are very mature compared to their age, and Kousei and Kaori went through a lot of pain in their lives which most people experience when they are like 40 or more, so they matured psychologically much faster compared to their peers (this happens to unfortunate teens who grow up too fast from harsh reality...)

[@impyrobot]

Exactly like 14 year old Japanese kids fighting and in a motorbike gang or what ever else super fucking scary make them like 18 or 20 or something at the least

[@samdarvish9798]

The 14 year old motorcycle gangs was actually a real thing tho look at the mangas like shounen junai gumi where they are 16 and also im motorcyckle gangs people don’t know that this actually was a real thing some years ago look up the term “bosozuko”

[@martianpudding9522]

It gave me a lot of whiplash in Bleach because they all look like hot adults in their 20s and they act like adults and most of the time they're out doing fantasy stuff that they don't need to be teenagers for, but then suddenly now and then they go to highschool and I have to remember they're supposed to be teenagers

[@xXasd012xX]

also don't forget... shinigami ages are a whole new thing in itself

[@faizfuad8361]

Almost all of them are adults, bar Ichigo, Orihime and Sado. Even then they are still rash in their decisions and doesnt spout any shakespearan shit

[@thomasdasilva2399]

In Erased, it was justified because the character actually solving the mystery is a man in his end-20s. He also knows that stuffs will happen because he can travel through time. All of these may look like shortcuts but it work well and make sense in the story.

[@Twiska]

I'm surprised no one mentioned Code Geass. Nina building a nuke, Suzaku becoming a knight directly under the Emperor, Kallen being a terrorist before the show even started and Luluoch creating his own terrorist organisation, new state and finally taking over an Empire that spand 1/3 of Earth. All of this when they were all 16/17. To be fair I don't think the big problem is their ages as the show never brings it up and they all look and act in thier late 20s. It's the fact they are actually still in high-school and the show keeps reminding you of that fact.

[@Ash_Wen-li]

Mecha kinda gets a pass at that trope even if it's not always deserved. That's why UC Gundam are so good. The kids actually act like kids. I think Code Geass is so bonkers that the people that would care criticise other aspects and the people that wouldn't, don't criticise the show anyway

[@DrJones0801]

My immersion was completely ruined by the characters' age in Tokyo Revengers. The idea that 15-year-olds are killing each other in a "realistic" setting without any adults around is just ridiculous.

[@lurkinginthedark6498]

It is more realistic to see 15 yo kids killing each other in a gang fights with weapons rather than seeing them fight each other with bare hands here, irony in my country

[@lurkinginthedark6498]

Ive seen them riding around the town going to the hospital, 3 kids, one in the middle is already dead with a machete sticking right into his head

[@fable2830]

I don't know about where you're from but at least in my country where I live it was perfectly realistic going to high school for me was like walking on egg shells look at someone the wrong way you either get beat up or beat someone the fuck you're same with gsngs except we used knives over here. But I get that it can seem unrealistic for some people but even back then in Japan the period it was based on shit really was like that with the biker gangs and delinquent schools, tho I do think Tokyo revengers takes it a bit to the extreme lol

[@ShiroNekoDen]

Lol did you forget about the lord of the flies? Battle royale? Over the edge?

[@JavierAlvarez-sd5er]

I would probably belive the 15 yo killing each other if it was a 3rd world country and not japan

[@SwfanredLotr]

I was always intrigued how highschoolers in many shows were suddenly able to get an apartment to live by themselves or have a job at the same time.

[@darkenedpsynoid]

Right that's almost impossible to do as an adult.......

[@Friendly_Neigborhood_Astolfo]

Some japanese high schools have dorms to them and some japanese kids do live alone to save time on a commute to their school since their High schools are structured similarly to college in the west.

[@daliperez5047]

Little Busters is an underappreciated work in regards to characters who act their age. "if you write 21 between parentheses it reads like 'loli' lmao" or quoting each other's dumb phrases it's the kind of stupid jokes I would crack with friends at 15. It brings me so much high school nostalgia.

[@Ash_Wen-li]

I think one thing that Urasawa excels at is writing child characters

[@yurikuki]

One of the main reasons I love One Piece is because of the age. Almost all the character are adults and drink alcohol. No school setting and even the straw hats are mostly adults with the exception of chopper. Luffy at the start of One Piece was the same age as Naruto was at the end of Shippuden. Just blows my mind. And that's also one of the reasons why I think One Piece ages so well just because the characters are older than most shounen manga.

[@mikemorro140]

Luffy isn't much older than most shounen characters like he's only 19

[@christhis9597]

4:44 i first thought of golden boy and was like: ‚ah yes, a man of culture‘

[@b.i.c.violet4545]

Me @ the Tokyo Revengers cast: arent you a bit young to get into all these soap opera gang drama? The kids: Yes. Yes we are. Me, resuming eating my popcorn: alright. Go on.

[@NotTheWheel]

I felt that way about Kuroko No Baske. It makes a lot more sense if the players specially Generation of Miracles players were all in their first year of college. Like best High School team of ball players ever assembled. All decide they're going to different colleges to compete against each other. Like just do that. Why high school?

[@Seydaschu]

Isn't the whole deconstructive theme behind Neon Genesis Evangelion "This is what would REALLY happen if teenagers had to save the world from impossible odds"?! People who hate Shinji are comparing him to the unrealistic teenage protagonists of other anime. How well could YOU have saved the world at his age?

[@wchan39]

Thank you! Someone that gets it!

[@ianfinrir8724]

Shinji is a very accurate depiction of depression.

[@sonicducktheinoccent]

I always add 4-5 years to whatever age they give me just to make sense if it

[@matthewmiller9485]

I heard the kaiju manga that came out recently has a main character that very much looks and acts like his age, 32, which is really unheard of considering it's in shounen jump (shounen jump digital, I don't think it's in print). Also unheard of is the main character of a shounen being so old, and he's drawn like an adult of that age would be drawn (manga is Kaiju No. 8 specifically btw).

[@shyguy5473]

You are right. But there is also a 17 year old girl in the story who battles Kaiju though she is not the main character

[@Friendly_Neigborhood_Astolfo]

Acts his age, 32. What does that mean?

[@mikius5723]

Sasuke was 11 but it was the trauma he went through that made him the way he was. Before his clan was killed he behaved more like a child. Naruto and other children characters behaved more like children as they hadn't yet endured the kind of trauma Sasuke had already endured.

[@hop-skip-ouch8798]

I think what people suddenly forget after growing up is that animes are often marketed towards kids. So they generally make the character young for kids to relate to them.

[@Floraclaw]

I think the best example of this stupidity is Gundam Wing. Not to mention Gundam seed more or less the same idea. Guy1: Hey you know what sounds like a brilliant idea? Let's have our space colonies send five of the world's most advanced mobile suits to fight earth and free the space colonies. Guy2: That's a brilliant idea We should have our best pilots on the job. Guy1: Right let's get angsty teenagers. Guy2: Wait what? I'm willing to forgive some Gundam series for that nonsense. Like iron blooded orphans for example the entire situation was completely screwed from the start. Also in the original series it was just by pure circumstance that Amuro Ray ended up as the pilot.

[@user-garnet]

This is kinda why I appreciate 86 so much. The main characters being teenagers are not only explained but also a huge part of the themes in the show.

[@matdrift]

I just finished "Your Lie in April" two days ago. Knew about that anime last year but planning to watch it in April this year. Totally love that anime.

[@bappyhasanjahid4985]

That's why Moshuko Tensai Jobless reincarnation makes so much sense.

[@SlashingMike]

I deal with it by pretending most anime characters in shows I like are at least college age.

[@Exolvee]

YLIA was exactly what popped into my mind then Garnt even brought it up. It left such a huge impression on me that I tend to think about it time to time but the more I keep pondering about it the more immersion breaking it becomes that apparently they are 13-14 instead of 17-18.

[@CrimsonCharan]

I mean, that isn't too far off, then. They're just acting like 17 year olds instead of 14 or 15. That kind of stuff isn't too immersion-breaking. I've seen worse.

[@Yiujin-Kun]

It's just one of those things we don't question unless it really needs to be

[@elijahfyffe5176]

I’m fine with characters looking super jacked at certain ages. But it has to be explained. I started martials arts from before middle school and ended up making a lot of fight friends in highschool. Since I watched a lot of anime I thought I should look like a Jojo/Baki/ Hokuto no ken character. But I only look the way I do cause I trained for it. No teen playing 2k every day is gonna look like gigachad. Also, one of my buddies looked like hanayama and fought like him too

[@muhamaddanial5376]

What about an anime that sets on the medieval time(including fantasy ones), where most teens needs to act like an adult? Knowing "that time" is the olden time where 15 or 14(?), are considered to be an adult(or maybe like Goblin Slayer, where 15 is merely becoming an adult)..

[@muhamaddanial5376]

Well, this is kinda out of topic, but you get my point..

[@michaelcabrera9634]

Listening to them talk about Tokyo revengers like that made me realize how fucked my child hood was.. I was getting jumped and or robbed in middle school.. I've been in so many fights from middle school and highschool that Tokyo revengers made sense to me I never questioned it.. man that's fucked up seeing things from their point of veiw

[@sterlingmoore2190]

I still haven’t watched Tokyo Revengers and knew very little about it when this conversation started, and to learn that they’re supposed to be 13/14 when this whole time I just assumed they were old secondary school or uni students was so insanely dumb to me

[@jovannydiazabad6123]

To be fair in Your Lie in April it makes sense with Kozue considering who his mother was towards him.

[@connorfaulds80]

Did Joey watch the same erased I watched? The dude solving the mysteries was an adult

[@keinen.0824]

He was talking about that Kenya kid

[@brandonlyn88]

To add to the Naruto statement Itachi was 13 YEARS OLD when he ( and Obito ) killed the Uchiha.

[@amazegamer6428]

I always assumed that the characters are teenagers because the manga is aimed at teenagers

[@akumuryuu]

There's always Genshiken, if you want characters acting their age.

[@FaerieHijacker]

Genshiken, NHK ni Youkoso, Bokura wa Minna Kawai-sou, and oddly enough, even Mob Psycho are anime with slice of life elements that actually makes sense.

[@SidRo1113]

That's why i think shows like Death Note and even Naruto (sorry I'm disagreeing with the trash taste this time) did so well. Death Note you would believe that a 17-18 year old would have the resources to do what Light did and they're very good at writing the children in Naruto like real kids would be, even if they are a very determined bunch. They were young but they were never written to be all knowing or anything like that. The only characters i could think off acting that way would be sasuke and neji; two character's who were very traumatized and so it seemed more realistic to me that they would be ridiculously serious. I never once thought in those two shows that it was weird for someone that age to be doing or acting like they were, but there are plenty of shows that make me laugh out loud with how ridiculous the character are acting; even when it's meant to be a serious scene.

[@jordy885]

I think they do it because in Japanese culture once you reach 18 you're basically doing nothing but working. As a kid/teenager you're still at that stage of dreams and fun and learning so they'd rather write about teenagers because they probably miss those days and think being a kid/teenager is just in general the best time of your life so why not add crazy out of this world scenarios and powers to them.

[@kugelblitzingularity304]

to be fair, there are some very very OP literature/arts people that started their career at a super young age. eh, for perspective, the youngest mangakas that debuted is apparently like 15, and their are child prodigee musicians and authors with similar talent at that age.

[@sj97inr4]

Mozart was actually very scatological in his writing. He wrote a poem about eating poop.

[@End0531]

I think with the naruto argument isn't really good since how the era work isn't similar too the real life era when it was released i think its more notable if getting compared to irl is the era after the ww1 or ww2 since they did go through a war before the main series and there more old time than modern so how age would be looked as will be different

[@joedorben3504]

6:30 Honestly Naruto didnt bother me much. It had already been established at the beginning with Haku that extremely young people can be extremely powerful, with Kakashi going so far as to say there were people younger than Naruto that were stronger than Kakashi (I wish we got to see some of them, as massive as Naruto's world and scale were it still felt like we didn't see enough of it somehow). If your entire clan had been murdered in cold blood and you'd seen it happen, even a child would want revenge. Especially if it were a child in Naruto's world, given what we knew about it. And even more especially if it was that level of a betrayal. That didn't feel unrealistic to me, honestly.

[@joeclark6413]

It's funny how most romance anime are set in highschool but the real nitty gritty of relationships are experienced in your 20s and above. There's some really interesting and hard hitting stories to be told for that age range in that context and there's only so many times we can see 'puppy love'. For example, what if the character is older and they're getting worried they're 'past their prime' ala 40 year old virgin. Also it would get rid of garnt's problem and characters would actually act their age. A high schooler is never that profound when it comes to romance.

[@The.Reilly]

Surprised Violet Evergarden wasn't mentioned. She was a heartless psychopath that killed thousands by hand, lost a friend and is now working for a post office and she's like 14.

[@macias5091]

idk man, in my town the only gangs were kids 13-16 yo, and i mean like serious shit (for their age), drugs, fights, illegal gambling all of that. So yeah, for me tokyo revengers was relatable, and it brought some old memories.

[@packed2steezy48]

2:00 In the era set for Tokyo revengers the yankii gang shit was on it like that so it does make sense, but I get they could be abit older. I think we need to be creative in our minds though and enjoy it as anime not box in a norm

[@ss-vg3hd]

USA: cosplayed old guys save the world Japan: elementally school kids save the world

[@bulletxwound3559]

the thing about Tokyo revengers is that they are in gangs and in the us in middle school and up to a certain point in high school there were stabbings and shootings done by kids in gangs. Maybe it's unbelievable for them because they never had to deal with that kind of environment but it was pretty bad that cops were put in schools and we had to go through metal detectors every day to get into the school

[@bulletxwound3559]

@@hammurabii.3173 there's time travel in the story it's like expecting comics to be realistic. Also dosen't seem like you're getting the point, my example was that it's not unrealistic for teenagers to act in extremely violent ways but then again realism in a time travel story that has a character like mikey and dragon isn't something I'm really looking for

[@XykenKuragari]

Ay bruh. Erased was actually dope. And that was the whole reason. Where the main guy can witness something he could've fixed, then time reverses and he fixes it. Or tries his best. That's why he went back so far in time bc he was trying to build a better future by trying to fix everything he possibly could. And he knew what he was doing and he was conscious of what he was doin, so he enlisted and protected his friends. And shit bro, that story was heartbreaking.

[@corrinflakes9659]

Giorno at 15 years old skipped school for a week and became the mafia boss. (All of Golden Wind took place within 8 days, making it the shortest JoJo part in terms of in-universe time)

[@alecfongy3175]

Giorno didn't just skip school. He abandoned it altogether and will never go back. GIGACHAD

[@corrinflakes9659]

@@alecfongy3175 Without a proper education. How’s the young lad going to achieve the heights of legendary mathematician and good friend, the late Narancia Ghirga?

[@alecfongy3175]

@@corrinflakes9659 Based on what he’s done in the events of part 5, he had better judgement than most adults, in his own messed up ways. he’ll be ok 👍

[@corrinflakes9659]

@@alecfongy3175 (PART 5 SPOILERS TO THOSE READING THIS THREAD!!) When you think about it, Mista was the oldest member of the main JoBros to survive Part 5 at 18. As Giorno and Trish are 15, and Fugo is 16. (although abandoned the mission prior, still a survivor) The only adult there was Mista. And Narancia at 17 was the only child death, as Bruno is 20, and Abbacchio is 21. Well, maybe Coco Jumbo is the oldest since some accounts suggest the turtle is practically a JoBro and I don’t blame that possibility, Mr. President carries at times. Also turtle, they even state during The Grateful Dead encounter turtles live for quite a while, so Coco Jumbo could easily be above 21 at the least. But the question also asks if Polnareff is one? I don’t think so as his screentime is about the same as Koichi’s

[@alecfongy3175]

@@corrinflakes9659 Yes Polnareff is one but can't really do much but talk, Giorno and Trish may not be adults but they have real power and influence that no one can really go against, especially Giorno. They aren't evil people so they can be trusted They could easily establish their futures and do whatever they wanted

[@Cavemanheartrock]

I agree to an extent, hell we have a real life story of a boy I think like 10-12 or something who figured out where all these ancient aztec or mayan temple or city were based off a satellite map of just jungle. He traced it via a star pattern or something crazy and every single spot he said there would be a temple or city there was one. So yea, some times a kid can figure out something that some one in the field for a couple decades or even more couldn't. Crazy I know.

[@MaxRavenclaw]

I dunno, it's been a while since I watched Golden Time, but I remember the characters acting like they had some severe psychological problems. I also vaguely remember meming something like "Ghost Benri". I think the MC turned into a ghost at one point or something... as I said, been a while.

[@Victoria-dh9vb]

I also think it would be refreshing for shows that have a ton of fan service to just make their characters legal adults. I mean, come on Japan, we all just want a guilt free wank. Why do you gotta make it weird? Like, not weird in a fun way, weird in a "I can't have this saved on my computer because I'll get flagged for CP" kind of a way....

[@raithiainbreaker4999]

I KNOW RIGHT! like if they HAVE TO add franservie just make them college aged

[@divyanshuanand1721]

Mommy yor 🙏

[@alfanscholz8663]

You blame the anime, I blame the age of consent law

[@itsdantaylor]

This reminds me of when I first watched Sailor moon and thought all the protagonists were closer to 18 but then later found out they were supposed to be 13 or 14, and I KNOW that's not a huge age difference but...........you never really see any of these kid's parents, and they are just dealing with SO much stuff on their own that....which is something I don't see ANY 13 or 14 year old doing.

[@Biostar96]

Weird complaint when they at the same time get on MHA for being about teenagers still going to school and want them to be pushed into being full-time professionals like the adults.

[@animeopenings3918]

9:06 "i really dont like ghibli movies". Am i hearing this correctly?

[@RivarWayne]

I agree with everything but did he just say he cant get into erased ? That anime is so good tho. I mean yeah they dont act their age but the story was sooo good.