Apex 2015 - Armada (Fox) Vs. PPMD (Marth, Falco) - Grand Finals - SSBM

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[@Frank7489]

PP’s first reaction was to shake Armada’s hand. I swear you never see that. Usually it’s like, huge pop off into “oh yeah, the hand shake.” What a class act PP is

[@ZachoRockz]

he did the same thing after he beat Leffen in a super tight game 5. he popped off really hard, but only after just sighing and shaking his hand. I miss dr PP :(

[@Rozenkratz]

I love what you did with the secret video so we couldn't now if there was a reset, great job!

[@SuperTigran111]

yeah lol

[@georgerosebush9754]

It actually shows up in the top 8 playlist though, that spoiled it for me.

[@PaulusCunctator]

I also love how they kept the video going on long enough, they left enough room that it could've been a turnaround for [A]rmada.

[@TheImpossibleMan]

8:20 Toph: "I feel like Armada just turned it up two notches on the dial" D1: "Yes, he's at 11 now. He was at 10 first." A line worthy of Phil Simms

[@JoeDan54]

Maybe each notch is half...? Idk lol

[@themonoloco8245]

Maybe he didnt want to say 9 11

[@rat4992]

@@themonoloco8245 lmao

[@cta2644]

I'm hella late, but if you wanna follow the logic: he's at 11 now that he's turned it up two notches he was at 9 before this moment he started at 10 For him to have gone from 10 to 9 he first dropped 1 (as in he played slowly/sluggishly) at 8:20 Armada started to play out of his mind as pointed out by Toph saying he turned it up two notches so the way it went was "10-1=9, 9+2=11" and that's all

[@rat4992]

PPMD: “I DID IT!” Me watching this over five years later: “STACK IT UP! STACK IT UP! STACK IT UP!” (11:41)

[@ajuicejemas]

I like how Armada can't even be upset. Everybody knows that PPMD was hurting and sick for so long, and I think that everybody was happy to see the fifth god back in action. plz come back to us PP

[@ShibaKoii]

Fifth God? Is there a specific order for the gods?

[@ajuicejemas]

+Jacob Ruiz ehh, not really, but he was the last god to be added to the pantheon.

[@ShibaKoii]

+ajuicejemas oh wow, didn't know that.

[@leon9021]

whats the order and where can I see this?

[@narutouzumakijoshua]

also armada went fox when he literally just started using fox in tournament a month before Apex so I'd say that he was proud to be able to take a set off PP with his new fox

[@mteb]

This is my favorite Serge vs Darkfall set.

[@gamingmadness2424]

One of the best melee sets of all time definitely

[@treehann]

+GamingMadness242 agreed, I keep coming back to it over and over again

[@TheBrobasaurs]

+zevex747 this is my PPMD fix since he's been out of the scene for a while

[@hamon_master1390]

+JVFitness23 luckily he just tweeted out that he got successful treatment and will try to be at evo but will definetely start playing again at full capacity.

[@clem5419]

@@hamon_master1390 yes I think he’ll be back soon

[@hamon_master1390]

@@clem5419 I think so too

[@UberTurtle12]

9:00 "An opportunity for PPMD, this is your time to shine" *gets shined by armada*

[@JonJonFtheW]

Great job making a joke that everybody was able to recognize, including the commentators.

[@UberTurtle12]

JonJonFtheW Who shit in your cornflakes

[@sebastianbustos-smith5338]

Jonjon may have been a dick about it, but he was right, you just made a joke that toph made in the video literally a few seconds after it happened. Like, why?

[@lioalmodovar3415]

+Sebastian Bustos-Smith Thought it was D1...

[@PickyMcCritical]

Yeah it was D1

[@jarrettng8544]

I love how PP lifts up his water bottle so that the Monster logo is perfectly facing the camera xD

[@Galladefan777]

Hey man you gotta pay the bills. :P

[@NinteddyRose]

If you watched this live, after set 1, you see ppmd sitting there thinking for like a good minute. Then the next set, he just 3-0's armada. That is pure peace of mind there. That is playing one hundred percent cerebral.

[@elbhaji]

Toph: "I'm out" proceeds to do like 5 interviews

[@TexKimball]

I like the narrative here. Armada abandoned Peach since he considers her potential to be limiting, so he's going for victories as Fox. PP on the other hand, goes down the tier list to Marth and still dominates. PP is the anti 20XX, a true hero in Smash.

[@matrixxART]

it has been theorized that marth is the counter to 20XX. 20XX foxes can SDI out of falco's combos, and a good marth can combo fox the best out of any character. The counterpick does make sense.

[@TexKimball]

Andrew Meijer True, PP definitely put that on display

[@wiitubeaccount]

Top marth players (Ken and Mew2king) have been known to slay spacies. Plus, PPMD originally picked up marth to counter Armada's Peach. Peach also has harder matchups against the top tiers (especially vs fox and puff) than marth does. It's not really fair to compare Armada and PPMD that way.

[@TexKimball]

Wiitubeaccount It wasn't supposed to be a serious analysis. Just an observation of the way Melee is going and mains are shifting.

[@Dswwimmer]

Vault Boy® 20XX isn't here. Right now it's Fox, Falco, and Marth are the most relevant. Sheik is still sort of in there. Jiggs is sort of dying but that's because only HBox plays her. Everyone else is phasing out of the meta.

[@Gillian_FFXIV]

Extremely smart & clever of them to make this a private video because I seriously thought PP was gonna win the last one due to the length of the video. Soo many times when I'm watching Marvel I get spoiled by the length that it sort of deviates from the hype a little.

[@OriLegacy]

Didnt Leffen say PP wasnt taking Apex lol?

[@ValsNemesis]

exactly my thoughts

[@OriLegacy]

He's a good player with a shit ego and a rotten mouth

[@OriLegacy]

Yeah even if he was humble on the outside but how he is inside that'd be fine. He just doesnt know what and what not to say. He lets "fame" go to his head.

[@GameWinner5]

You are all so fucking stupid. You all find every window of opportunity to insult him even after he has improved himself as a person. Fuck off and let him have his determination. Clearly none of you have been through depression because if you have you would understand where Leffen was coming from with all those insults.

[@OriLegacy]

TheIntelligentGam3r Lmao, this guy please allow me to refer you to the earlier comments as arrogant people such as yourself refuse to read them. Oriven: He's a good player with a shit ego and a rotten mouth TheLightLeavesThee: He's an amazing player to be honest. Just talks a lot of shit.

[@TeitiTT]

PPMD is the most relatable god, the one who has the most struggles, nice to see him win

[@Wonderlvnd]

The Smash Documentary guy filming Leffen and PP talking at the end tho

[@SuperTigran111]

lel

[@LukeMM95]

He's probably getting footage for the Armada movie.

[@wesleychalmers7648]

9:33 Toph: "PP is back!" FeelsBadMan

[@devc.4322]

Go to 8:19 "I feel like Armada just cranked up the speed by 2 notches on the dial" "Yeah he is currently playing at 11, he was at a 10 first"

[@NowhereMan789]

math is hard

[@electromagneticlemon]

Dev C. It was a spinal tap reference by D1 and Toph didn't get it. 10 and 11 on the dial is a reference

[@Jmi391]

Sultan omran racism

[@dannysammy8972]

"I feel like Armada just cranked up the speed by 2 notches on the dial" ^--- ahem "yeah he is currently playing at 11, he was at a 10 first"....

[@dillonnguyen3841]

LEL

[@Zakariisama]

He was playing at e-Leffen

[@JoeyP_07]

Each notch could represent an increase of 0.5.

[@Azoonaloc13]

"yeah"

[@vishnuv.7807]

Spinal tap reference

[@xxProjectJxx]

I am better than these guys. I can play against level 9 cpus without losing a single stock!

[@ethanshaw2351]

Bad b8 m8 I r8 0/8

[@iEnjoyApplesauceVeryMuch]

level 9 means nothing at all. these are humans. EDIT: and i only just realised that you were being sarcastic. :( looks like i have been talking with too many casual smash 4 playing 9 year olds.

[@LoverDino]

ComputerEaterOne r u kidding me? I can beat lv 9 id probbly 4 stock armada and pp both

[@xxProjectJxx]

Ethan Shaw Can someone please explain to me what that thing with the 8s means? I see it all over, I don't understand it lol

[@RipRJD]

All hail coop xd found you again hahaha

[@bigaaronone]

thank you thank you THANK you for putting the second set unlisted.

[@mastershmiddy]

Something I just noticed years later-Armada loses his final stock on the final game the SECOND the Dream Land music ends before looping again. Feels like the stars really aligned in every way for PPMD that day ✨

[@Pan_Z]

Search "Apex 2015 crowd reaction" to see PP's "I DID IT!" up close. It's heartwarming.

[@BroadwayNexp]

Its like watching Goku vs Vegeta

[@Barynnthepally]

Good guy GimR hiding spoilers

[@seanjanson9526]

7:24 'PP now looking really solid'

[@dzrhaehaetjhnera4245]

PPMD holy SHITTTT

[@nathanharris8896]

+dzrhaeh aetjhnera I miss this PP. I hope it comes back.

[@xpgbodomhc1]

+dzrhaeh aetjhnera The dashdance god

[@wesleychalmers7648]

@BossMKW Lol

[@wesleychalmers7648]

@BossMKW Everybody makes mistakes. At least we have these sets to remember him by. And BMR 2 doubles

[@juanemilioramirezdesuza6606]

Broooo seeing ppmd playing marth or falco is like poetry , by far the most impressive god for me

[@tellhybrid]

PPMD's Up-B at the end was the most clutch decision i've ever seen.

[@irrationalxlpsr]

I still like coming back and watching all the sets of PP's from this tournament.

[@TheBiomedZed]

Both players weren't even in their prime here; Armada hadn't even begun to peak and PP was arguably coming down to his final hurrah. Still, this is my favourite set(s) of all time. Such heart-pounding gameplay where both players pushed eachother past their limits game after game.

[@dankmemer8575]

this is the finest marth play in history

[@Link24a]

wasnt it like 2 AM by the point this happened or something lol

[@Baku69895]

Yeah Smash 4 went 3 hours over and they changed venue

[@_akimamoto_6298]

+Link24 Yep. I remember it ruining my sleeping schedule.

[@naughtyboss6650]

+Allmywhat Didnt they change the venue because of a fire or something?

[@Baku69895]

Illuminaughty Boss Uh, I don't think it was a fire. If I remember right there was a snowstorm and a ceiling had issues so someone pulled a fire alarm or something. But yes they changed venue is th emain point.

[@naughtyboss6650]

+Allmywhat Ah i see. I though fire cause fire alarm. Lol

[@herolink17]

I often think about the way PPMD removes and puts the cap on his monster. Something about it is so deliberate and exemplary.

[@MatteusTheGreat42]

that was such a good up+b

[@julianmanjarres1998]

6:29 everyone was like "what"? They sounded like the white birds from finding memo

[@Ninja878787]

Finding Memo

[@jamiecal11]

Finding Memeo

[@t9t9t9t9t9]

armada should have gotten banned for that, i have never seen a more obvious use of an arduino then right there.

[@-Adria]

Anyone watching again after the documentary?

[@fautpasrever0]

The last game, last PPMD up b is one of the most clutch decision I ever saw in my entire life !

[@H2A_23]

Who is watching in 2017

[@Cornhog1552]

2018 here xD

[@ethanhenderson3942]

2019

[@techno--]

2020

[@Tonamelt]

2024

[@vultabult]

I gotta say, I never knew I could hate a movie ad much as I hate Krampus. 30 second ads that can't be skipped suck.

[@mw2isbroke]

but they can be blocked ;)

[@alexsaylor2755]

i wish i started playing smash when pp was still around. as a marth and falco main he is a true god to watch.

[@hordeoctopus]

Here after Metagame... great watching this back in full!

[@CyberXD]

Anyone else watching while they are both retired?

[@epage2553]

watching any space animal get destroyed is truly a beautiful thing

[@HuyNguyen-vj1uw]

How do you feel about a space animal getting killed by another spacie

[@treehann]

+rwntq unless it's Mango, because Mango is always fun to watch.

[@HuyNguyen-vj1uw]

+zevex747 I like watching mangos falco, but not his fox as much.

[@Wonderlvnd]

PP does the same thing after every match, drinks his Monster Energy, parts his hair to the side, and occasionally does a nose rub.

[@AsceBlayze]

So does Armada. He sits there completely still with the exact same facial expression like nothing at all happened Lol

[@georgerosebush9754]

***** Nooo, are you kidding me? He will occasionally touch his glasses, if that's not emotion I don't know what is.

[@snOwNHLm]

Must be in his contact to drink monster after every round

[@David-oe9yt]

Who's here after Genesis 4?

[@David-oe9yt]

At church thanking God

[@johnsother2440]

in my headcanon, PP is the G0AT.

[@jrave5353]

Who else is coming here from Summit 4, trying to remember a time when it wasn't Armada-Hungrybox every tournament?

[@Dankyjrthethird]

i watch this set every week i also watch the sktar and apex 2014 sets every week while practicing green falco and blue marth i have pp's twitter and his marth smashboards thread bookmarked and i check them every day i'm subbed to pp even though he hasn't streamed in months i have the official ppmd "the doctor is in" t shirt that i wear to my locals every time i go i use the "4PP" tag when i play u know nothing of my suffering pp pls come back to us soon :(

[@tooglianprimus15]

vehlajatt22 what was your opinion of ppmd at bad moon rising 2?

[@saraskyline8331]

Jeremy Raven Armada HBox sets are hype though

[@eddo6378]

Watching this again after seeing he Apex 2020 announcement!

[@potionyeller5546]

*Spoilers* PPMD did amazing, he is the new hero king of smash! Bow down to the new king! Lets hope he can keep this up. PS: Armada was also amazing, these matches were hype!

[@JesseDumontt]

Isn't it kind of sad you have to warn people about spoilers? Because if you don't, those idiots WHO SHOULDN'T BE LOOKING IN THE COMMENT SECTION IN THE FIRST PLACE BEFORE THE VIDEO, would bitch and cry. Common sense right.

[@InamorastraStardustLucille]

ngl I was legit expecting a twitch ascii copypasta. I was expecting that fucking toucan

[@AllAboutTheInternet]

Best Asura ARAD lmao do you have toucan ptsd? i don't blame you not after that twitch chat on that day.. especially when the peasants were freed and it became a sub free chat xP

[@ethanbradberry5050]

Feels bad man

[@CB0Otz]

Man PP's Marth looked soo good this tourney. Really hope he can make these kind of plays and more to keep up with the meta in the future.

[@dalsanto4]

Come back PPMD! Put hungrybox in his place

[@saraskyline8331]

J Sky Eaton As much as I'd love to see him back there is no way he will surpass HBox especially since he hasn't beaten HBox since tipped off 2013

[@eveningninja9824]

This set is the epitome of "download complete" lol.

[@suisnydes]

I love the toph and D1 commentary, both guys know a shit ton about the game and it makes watching these amazing matches that much better. Great grand finals and great commentary

[@xycubed]

The quality of play in these grand finals sets is just stellar. Gives me chills.

[@colinmurphy2214]

9:14 he went for the ken combo

[@3n3rgy90]

It is really weird seeing Armada lose a tournament

[@watchyourprofanity8708]

Ay, Armada was still happy, nice to see

[@bonkdicootrevised6774]

Wheres the comment about Armada using arduino? When Armada Shine PP by the Grab range(07:44:49 is before and 07:44.47 is where armada is about to shine and PP attempts to grab and 07:44.46 is where armada shine) It is at 6:27-6:28

[@Paleofan1211]

Probably deleted it after AsumSaus called it out in their Marth grab video

[@armandoo64]

Two of the five gods fighthing on the grand finals, just EPIC!!!!

[@jayrpg9114]

That Game 1. This makes me hope that when pp comes back it will put at least a bit of an end to armada winning next to everything like last year

[@ProlificPops]

PPMD too stronk. I call a needed nerf.

[@megaman111gaming]

Kreygasm

[@jonwind3383]

Oh he got nerfed all right...

[@treehann]

@@jonwind3383 OOF

[@zeroth3dark]

that was some of the best melee ever played

[@gapastro]

9:05 "This is your time to shine." I thought he meant it for PP...

[@SamersonT]

The only time you'll ever hear a crowd of young adults chanting PP

[@SilentSputnik]

Props for the double videos! I like the lack of spoilers.

[@powerupgaminguk]

PP wins the tournament stands up and goes "who said shitty, unviable character?" Everybody point to the loud mouth. "Get fucked." Smiles and walks away.

[@c0nk2879]

Love both these players, one of the best sets of all time!

[@charliechuckles6494]

Genius idea for the hidden second video. Well done

[@ErikPontifexAudio]

Best melee tournament of all time

[@Kriken_]

These grand finals - no, the top 8 in general - were more hype than Evo 2015's.

[@Alxinho959]

Hungrybox ruined evo, also when tournaments are played at night time they somehow feel more hype, best of 3 means less melee... Etc

[@saccity31]

If anyone is wondering why it was a fox v marth (strangely enough), it's cuz pp's falco destroys armada's fox, armada's peach destroys pp's falco, and pp's marth destroys armada's peach. The fox v marth is as equal as it gets between the two. HYPE MATCH THO

[@chantecameron7820]

PPMD's Falco loses vs Armada's Peach and Fox and Falco are even. Armada has a winning record over PPMD's Marth but I guess its not arguably different now. PPMD's Marth destroys Armada's Fox though.

[@simanolastname2399]

PP's Marth is so inspiring...

[@jjef9250]

Such an amazing set, miss you PP

[@jerry11368]

LOL @ 5:55 you can see PP's manager looking at the screen to see if he is advertising Monster correctly.

[@nakodares5982]

Yes we can tell for certain that is exactly what he was doing, you can tell by the glimmer in his eyes

[@kkayang]

meanwhile, Tropicana is upset that Armada forgot to drink his gallon of orange juice.

[@dosway4185]

a god, who also, is a human.

[@akextremerickert]

Good one pp, armada looked like a good sport at the end

[@cpthurme]

Armada turned the pressure up two dials from 10 to 11

[@TooThiKK]

Great match from two of my favorite players! USA! USA! USA! On a side note, these 60fps videos are amazing...

[@clay2889]

What a beautiful game of smash.

[@ShadowD3mon25]

“I DID IT!” 11:40

[@Panning72]

This is the Marth we've been looking for.

[@ZooPact]

Wow this was Sick!! PPMD has a very unorthodox Marth play style. Extremely unique which makes a lot of his reads unpredictable. Super Rad match...

[@MyLittleTurnip]

Had to watch this again after seeing G4 WF

[@CharlieCordero]

i think da PPMD is extremely smart

[@teh_blazerer]

Toph's collar BUGS THE SHIT OUT OF ME SOMEONE USE A TIME MACHINE AND FIX IT PLEASE THANK YOU

[@LoneStarVII]

I don't know why they were surprised. I haven't watched a great deal of matches but from what I have seen Armada never sulks or gets salty after a loss.

[@klowstanaccount7976]

+Lone Star VII Watch his vods from 2013 2014. I dont think toph meant salty in the rage sense. When armada would lose he would look very upset with himself

[@LoneStarVII]

***** Well that's fine but he made it sound like he wouldn't shake the other person's hand or something.

[@MATTierial]

This set is so Legendary!

[@happinesstolerant]

Cant wait till PPMD returns...

[@treehugger30]

Swag, swag. Like Caillou.

[@Hundal19]

4:11 was sick

[@dv9118]

Holy fuck this set was amazing.

[@dvdmoreno2010]

I miss PPMD.

[@SlowedReverbMafia]

Considering that Armada has been playing at an extremely high level fox for very little time, it won't be long until he becomes the greatest fox when he gets enough practice

[@abcdefghijk890989098]

It's not like he just picked up Fox. He spent months practicing Fox when he first unretires, and Fox is definitely his second most played friendly character as well.

[@SJtheMFZB]

abcdefghijk890989098 I think what he means is that while he's always had a Fox, it's never been this good. Armada is going to get Mango-scary in tournaments real soon.

[@SlowedReverbMafia]

true... his fox did look like it was getting outplayed a lot by PP's falco and I imagine it would by Mang0's - too bad he'll always pull peach on Mang0... cant wait for the day mang0 falco v armada fox becomes a thing

[@nathanharris8896]

+Miguel Oyler-Castrillo Looks like you're pretty vindicated now.

[@UltraKirby464]

Yo Pe Pe is back. I cant be the only one that laughed

[@treehann]

Hee Hee Pee Pee

[@thehcchannel9375]

So happy for ppmd

[@MrTheSaxon]

Can we talk about how hot armada is during this tournament?

[@Jason-he1mr]

PPMD *Kreygasm*

[@Wodto]

Hey guys, I'm kinda new in the community. Can someone explain me the concept of reset ? Because Armada won the first one and PPMD won the second one, so the score is like Armada 1 - 1 PPMD right ? Why isn't there a 3rd set ?

[@Kite_FL]

Wodto If someone wins losers finals, and then wins grand finals, it makes it so you have to play the match over again. Basically a way to show you are the best even if you lost a game and got put into losers. If PPMD won that first set there would not have been a reset and would have won the tournament right there.

[@Wodto]

Alright, I get it now, thanks mate !

[@eddiestilll]

PPMD is jus so clutch.