Apple iCloud "thinks different" on what the delete button means: still claims repair hurts privacy 😂

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[@gblargg]

12:06 Hilarious insert.

[@roxcyn]

Small number, small number, small number, small number, number, number.

[@wongway40]

@@roxcyn I want busta rhymes to MC over the top of that

[@soibamxavier2]

.

[@ihavebeenben]

What is the original audio of the man talking about death?

[@Douglas_Gillette]

‘Stop calling it the cloud. It is someone else’s computer.’

[@6ch6ris6]

I need to write that down lol

[@youtubeenjoyer1743]

Powerful.

[@MacGuffin1]

Yes, technically 'The Cloud' is a networking term invented by a company called 'Sita'

[@Operational117]

This should be shouted from every single rooftop on this planet (translated to whatever native language that particular rooftop's country of origin is).

[@Bassotronics]

I don't trust any of my files in the "cloud".

[@LukeBranson8]

Could have been titled "Louis goes outside" and you would have lost no viewership.

[@davemalone7006]

Possibly gained some

[@user-ms6ye6dc7h]

Love it

[@sunla]

We really do adore this man. It's his integrity and grit. Very admirable. If Louis Goes Outside: The Movie screens in theaters, I'm getting my family tickets.

[@Furzkampfbomber]

@@sunla'Louis goes Outside' sounds like one of those children movies that work surprisingly good for adults as well, because they work on several layers, with children only recognizing the most obvious one. Kinda like 'Peter Rabbit'. I guess I would totally watch this with my nieces and nephews, being glad to have an excuse for watching a children's movie. :D

[@omertaprimal6913]

Facts

[@vitullogeorgewilliam4109]

"Sorry seems to be the hardest word."

[@rossmanngroup]

Depends on who you're dating...

[@SupraSav]

Sorry doesn't mean sh!t in a world where money changes hands. Sorry is never sufficient, nor will it ever be when money is involved.

[@AppleReviews]

Apple said SORRY for recent TV ad (crushing instruments)

[@OfficialDJSoru]

"it's sad. So sad. IT'S A SAD, SAD SITUATION. And it's getting more and more absurd."

[@previousslayer]

@@AppleReviews for all that matters the instrument crushing could be cgi. they literally FLEXED a very expensive tablet in that ad though, ig that's what people had issue with 😂 you don't blow 1 1/2 kilogrand on something so wobbly and disposable

[@ripewhensoft9743]

Louis is looking more like a GTA character every day

[@syahmiirfan6779]

Trevor if he's repairing laptops 😂

[@kamilpruszynski7132]

more like Vaas Montenegro

[@BrunodeSouzaLino]

Since technically deleting your cloud data is equivalent to requesting a company to delete your data, Apple is in violation of GDPR Article 17 (I) by not erasing data at the user's request.

[@Dan-gs3kg]

Someone lift this up

[@s_shake]

Boost

[@LaskyLabs]

I raise you up. So you can stand on mountains.

[@MazeFrame]

The GDPR needs to be taught in schools. It is the holy script in this mad world.

[@lck0ut348]

we need the GDPR to be universal across the world

[@Maxrepfitgm]

Rossmann in the woods? Right to repair the environment.

[@PhilipMarcYT]

Environment friendly. 😆

[@BlindmanPepperspray]

Right to repair the environment!

[@connivingkhajiit]

Based

[@discordantduck1808]

next video title: "why the industrial revolution is bullsh*t"

[@bradhaines3142]

do you not see the concrete slab behind him?

[@DJAngelcakes]

Can confirm, when I got a new phone this year I had a couple dozen “deleted” photos back in my library.

[@michelleschaefer9545]

Glad you shared that

[@seanwilson9925]

At this point, "delete" is basically just a "please" button

[@Truth_Teller_101]

Pressing delete is a signal they send back to the mothership indicating that piece of data is something they need to secretly preserve in case they can use it against you later or monetize it somehow.

[@KingOfTheKindle]

Like the X button to close programs in windows.

[@michaelblacktree]

Or rather, a "hide" button

[@Mackenway]

"delete" = "hide from me"

[@heroinmom153]

Just like the "do not call" list

[@CrypidLore]

Who do I trust more, a faceless corporation that isn't beholden to literally anyone or my local repair shop where if they do something shady, I know exactly where they are.

[@GHOSTSTARSCREAM]

Why put in the trust? it baffles me that people trust in everything and anything. When that's not what the quote is.

[@FusionC6]

@@GHOSTSTARSCREAM its just easier.

[@nadamuchu]

mo money mo problems

[@CrypidLore]

@@GHOSTSTARSCREAM What quote?

[@GHOSTSTARSCREAM]

@@FusionC6 what's easier?

[@TransformX]

I really miss the pre-internet days 😕

[@andrewreed4538]

Soon the wording will be I miss the pre AI days. For the kids they have grown up in the internet era now being introduced to AI. Not for someone like me remembering dial-up

[@Leo-sd3jt]

Hahahahaha, "Message to Harry Manback"? Oh, man, I started cracking up at work when I heard that come on during the montage. Props.

[@dustinjaros]

Came here to say this. Never heard that one in a yt video ever before.

[@Fatty420]

There's "delete" where the file is actually deleted. There's "delete" where the file is simply hidden from you to give you the warm fuzzy feeling that it was deleted but in actuality the file was stored because it's part of the user data they use to train their AI and use to AI generate images.

[@youtubeenjoyer1743]

Don’t worry, nobody cares about deck pics or henti mangas on your phone.

[@RexRude99]

@@youtubeenjoyer1743 Appeal to triviality to make the upset person feel foolish about complaining and go away. Try again.

[@charginginprogresss]

@@youtubeenjoyer1743 oh look another "privacy isn't an issue because I have nothing to hide" buffoon

[@bumbalaaa]

@@youtubeenjoyer1743way to immediately invalidate your opinion 🤡🤡

[@Jesujej]

@@youtubeenjoyer1743 fbi cares

[@spidalack]

"Stop calling it the cloud. It is someone else's computer" I keep telling people in charge at work this and they still somehow think it will save us money, until the actual bill comes.

[@mightylink65]

Which costs more, a cloud subscription or a low power device idling in your house? I'm starting to think one is overtaking the other these days...

[@SirWuffleton]

Especially with stuff like AWS and the like - the fees and accounting could basically be their own job function, including "fun" surprises like failed requests against your S3 bucket racking up a $1000 bill. There's some good use of the cloud and off-site hosted stuff in a business context since you can cover your butt with a data processing agreement and it can reduce workload (especially for small teams) but definitely at the cost of paying extra to have someone else handle it. For personal use self-hosted is absolutely the way to go - it's still some extra work, but technologies like containers have greatly improved accessibility and in general require less low-level knowledge.

[@aykutakguen3498]

I ran some numbers, aws serverless vs hetzner, not kidding its 14x price

[@glebko123]

@@aykutakguen3498have you run through features which aws offers for that prices? Have you calculated maintenance and electricity costs for your own servers?

[@PiDsPagePrototypes]

​@@mightylink65If that server in your house is a Raspberry Pi with drives attached, then it's not even close, the subscription cost will buy you a new R-Pi4 every month.. If your server was some giant Linus Media Group level rack for multiple companies, there 'may' be advantages to having it as off-site backup, such as a cost a corporation writes down in the ledger that they can claim against thier taxation.

[@patglenn7762]

Absolutely. Not just Apple either. Facebook always seems to remember things I deleted years ago and brings them up just in case I want to share them again.

[@DasStoic]

The right to repair and the right to touch grass, together at last

[@JuanesChiwirosky]

watching this as fast as possible, before youtube delists it again..

[@KesorodaBlk]

I added it to my Informative Videos playlist.😊

[@myflamerider]

Half tempted to download this to keep on hand

[@PuthySlayer69420]

​@myflamerider youll be breaking copyright protection enjoy getting sued by rossman himself

[@myflamerider]

@PuthySlayer69420 I don't know if he would go that far as long as it's for personal use, but than again, maybe 😅

[@phlogistanjones2722]

@@PuthySlayer69420 Jeez fella.... are you wu mao, corpo troll or a just a 17 year old edge-lord jackin' it to your non-existent " +5 social media points"?

[@Allegheny500]

I had worked IT for a stock brokerage, and the main concern is preventing loss of data. Every system is designed to fail safe against it. Backups are off site, mirror systems halfway across the country and redundant servers so taking one offline for maintenance does not stop operations. Deliberately deleting data required an organized effort and I imagine it's the same with cloud storage as the potential law suits over lost family photos would ruin a company. Naturally the first thing I do when getting a new computer is disable cloud storage and make my own backups. Investing in a RAID array is also recommended.

[@lno_onel4404]

"that sure as hell isn't happening at my shop or one of my employees are getting murdered" lmao

[@robertaries2974]

Shame that google will delist stating the truth. We live in a dystopia

[@AngryJT]

Yeah but our bread and circus is pretty sweet, gotta admit.

[@interstellarsurfer]

​@@AngryJTBread is more expensive than ever, and the circus is a psyop.

[@lamp7746]

@@interstellarsurfersmartest KZbin reply

[@AngryJT]

@@interstellarsurfer Yup. Tastier and more distracting than ever.

[@MadScientist267]

I'm surprised that comment wasn't deleted.

[@mousqy]

Apple: what was deleted must be interesting

[@andycopeland7051]

Always is

[@adam5599]

Nice change of scenery in today's video, Louis. Keep shining a light on these unjust corporate practices!

[@4d3x0]

I have been following your channel for a while now. Just gotta say, I wish more people knew about it Salute from Colombia

[@poemontyperacer]

New Louis Rossmann theme unlocked

[@chrismay2298]

Bro, I would never have thought that when I was watching you fix raggedy Apple boards years ago that you would be putting up some of the most poignant and to the point content about the evils of these dystopian megacorps. Well done and congratulations on your success!

[@MyName-tb9oz]

The man is _driven!_

[@liamhuls470]

Always learn something from your videos. Thank you for informing me on this topic, keep up the good work

[@beyondthelimit6800]

I love your content Louis, thanks for bringing up all the good projects that care for the people

[@Gnomleif]

Ah yes, billion dollar corporations claiming the stink comes entirely from someone else's sh|t.

[@marcovela4074]

why is bro in a luscious meadow

[@rossmanngroup]

"Luscious meadow" ?? you a realtor?

[@kylefarrell25]

I think you answered your own question.

[@JM-vp8zc]

@@rossmanngroupIt’s like your own personal Central Park

[@interstellarsurfer]

​@@JM-vp8zcWithout the muggings.

[@Moogus]

He’s deep in your mom’s meadow.

[@NeoVoodooTech]

My first machine was a 486 dx2. Luckily younger me snagged the processor from the board when it died and I still have that cpu in drawer somewhere just for the nostalgia. Good times, simpler times.

[@RemyReynoldsMusic]

My ex broke up with me because of this very reason. Deleted photos and videos and she hacked into the "cloud" and saw so many videos I SWORE I deleted! Lost the love of my life and there was no talking. I thought I was crazy. Thank you for this

[@07wrxtr1]

She didn’t actually care about you and wanted an excuse to leave Girls are a dime a dozen… don’t put one girl on the pedestal There are quality women out there - move on n go find one

[@RemyReynoldsMusic]

@@07wrxtr1 this is what I've been thinking the whole time too. She just wanted a reason. Thanks for this

[@LuckyCharms777]

Hacking into your account is illegal. File charges with the police on her. In some states it’s a misdemeanor and in others a felony.

[@danielgaughan4243]

After looking for 35 years, my mother found her real mother two years after she died so I feel your pain, dude

[@GregM]

Watch out for ticks. They love long grass

[@prosysus]

Yes, the grass is dangerous dont touch it

[@JM-vp8zc]

@@prosysusDue diligence vs. hysteria.

[@marcellachine5718]

They are terrible this year.

[@TheOriginalGabberjaw]

You mean Raptors. Right?

[@AOV070]

Ahhh 😊 nature 😅.

[@charginginprogresss]

Not a matter of malicious or intentional. If I deleted a file three years ago, the file cannot just reappear. It means they store your data permanently.

[@charginginprogresss]

11:17 wdym not malicious, they clearly keep a copy of all your files at any time and not delete it when you delete your copy

[@charginginprogresss]

Oh and OF COURSE it's a bug, they weren't meant to let you see that they still have your files. Oopsie their bad tehee

[@alazarbisrat1978]

@@charginginprogresss It's more of how computers delete files in general, they just remove it and its address from the list of files in the folder so that it could be overwritten later by new data. That's how undeleting programs work, just finding the orphaned files by manually scanning the drive itself. Although, there still remains the question of why the update would undelete them.

[@GabrielleTollerson]

anyone who doesn't think this is malicious is stupid as hell.

[@user-to7ds6sc3p]

Storing data, as you call it, "permanentely", is just normal storage. Stuff isnt supposed to suddenly disapear, so it stays there unless explicitily told otherwise. Louis actually mentioned a probable cause in like the first 2 Minutes. A server that wasnt synced correctly, if that server never got told about the deletion it would still have the files. The Situation is bad, but implying that the non deletion is intentional is a bit of a stretch.

[@murdock6159]

Love the change of scenery. You're a legend. Keep fighting the good fight.

[@FrederVision]

Your channel is so inspirational for ppl that need to speak up. Were allowing this to happen by enabling them with our money.. STOP BUYING TRASH

[@thydevdom]

Rossmann living his best life in the heart of Texas might be the best part of this video!

[@aldo1814]

Damn, bro...got a lot of respect for you. I've been in cyber/IT for over 20 years and you always hit the nail on the head. You're appreciated more than you know.

[@tetedur377]

My first computer was an 8088. I've had a 286, a 386, a 486, and a true Pentium 100 that should not have been able to run the programs that it ran. All of those except the 8088 were home built. I did conclude quite a while back that MS thinks that they own your media; specifically, the xbox (in all its interations) and your PC, no matter what brand it happens to be. When I worked for the Department of Defense, Depart of the the Navy, those were enterprise computers and computer networks. They were all interchangeable as far as the PC or laptops, the firmware and software. Everyone got the same upgrades and the same programs. There were exceptions, mainly on a case-by-case basis, and each exception had to be elevated to higher levels to provide for exceptions. Different competencies were allowed to have programs that other competencies were not. For example, Science and Technology users had programs available to them that Logisticians were not, and so on throughout the entire enterprise. All that was what led me to believe that the money I spent on my xboxes and on my PCs were merely the cost of entry into the Microsoft world-wide enterprise.

[@Zero_Zilch]

On board with this in it's entirety; blessed to gain more knowledge on this topic. Hopefully; others will understand this more. Great video 👏🏾

[@GhostBranchFPV]

Boy am I stoked to hear Louis' opinion on Windows 11's new "Recall" feature, after seeing how he reacts to a file not being properly deleted! :D

[@thecatontheceiling]

local-only processing, ARM64 CPU requirement, "AI laptop" only. I'd say the topic in this video is more concerning

[@mightylink65]

This will be tomorrows video I'm sure.

[@kevboard]

not really an issue as it seems to run fully offline. the only issue I see with that is that it will absolutely slow down your PC even with dedicated ML hardware

[@jason2mate]

@@thecatontheceiling "local-only processing" Yes because that means they won't take this information as a data point and take it to the cloud at some point to improve their AI. Stop trusting massive corporations with your information.

[@BlackSun404]

@@jason2mate Exactly. Why would THEY take all your data and foot the bill for the data crunching on their side? Already crunched data, on your own bill, is so much more convenient to get and saves them tons of power and time. =D

[@solanumtinkr8280]

The issue with saying sorry these days, is the rest of the planet thinks that "Sorry" is not a path to redemption, but the precursor to prosecution. When there can be no forgiveness, then there is only avoidance.

[@TheBigdog868]

This is the land of writs and torts. That's why the owners manual in my car says DO NOT DRINK THE CONTENTS OF THE BATTERY.

[@devotee]

I just went to the reddit post you linked in the description and... _"Sorry, this post has been removed by the moderators of r/ios."_ It's not the radio silence. It's not that they don't know how to say _"I'm sorry"_ (or just won't) . It's that they're covering their poop.

[@matthewsheeran]

I think I saw two Bigfoots playing peekaboo behind you in the shadows under the foliage: And their names were Apple and Google!!

[@discordantduck1808]

it is WILD to me how lawmakers have allowed the default setting for billions of phones to involve the automated cloud storage of intensely personal details like contacts and location. the 20th century was a series of lessons on why not to trust governments with unlimited power and why we should resist intrusions on our perosnal lives and we have as a species utterly failed to learn those lessons. I can only imagine the reach and capabilities of a modern stasi, and eventually we WILL see these cute data harvesting tools weaponised against us. It's crazy to me only a small minority seem to be able to see this coming.

[@JM-vp8zc]

“All governments are lying cocksuckers.” - Bill Hicks

[@qui-gonsgin8747]

That is why its important to never go 100% with the "mainstream" and to think critical about what you hear and see

[@chrismay2298]

Yep. Then they call you names and ruin anything they can for noticing and pointing it out for them.

[@hyperdude144]

But it's the cirpos that are developing those tools. They arguably want it as much as the government.

[@JacobODonnellDesign]

I get where you're coming from, but it sounds like you're complaining about private capitalist companies, not the government. Obviously the government needs to stop turning a blind eye to what the companies are doing, but privately owned companies acting like authoritarian governments is the problem. What you're saying is a contradiction. Lawmakers outlawing that behavior would involve a more powerful government willing to actually criminally prosecute big tech companies. How would lessening the power of the government allow for lawmakers to more tightly clamp down on the messed up behavior of big tech companies?

[@GamerGee]

Rossman outside filter looks amazing.

[@laboratorioassembler]

Where i can buy it???

[@user-qc6pg6ef6h]

Truly a showcase for the power of generative AI.

[@mihailos8701]

Thanks for another good video with great clarifications of nuances and background 😃

[@mrsmiley631]

...or they use them to blackmail our elected officials, or those close them, to ensure laws and rules favorable to them.

[@GeorgeWashingtonLaserMusket]

"We noticed you son sent his GF a request for ndus twenty years ago when ho was in HS. Sure would be a nhame if we hold everyonu you raised a pedo." I can see Apple doing this to some senator pushing a bill they don't like

[@gregoryallen0001]

reminds me of advice i got: never write anything on paper or in a computer that you wouldn't want to see on the FRONT PAGE OF THE NEWSPAPER

[@HANKTHEDANKEST]

Oh man, that's an oldie but a goodie. I think my first computer lab teacher used that one. Just because you're not paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you[r data]!

[@Foolish188]

Michael Cohen testified that Trump said something like that about email. One of the most sensible things Trump has ever said.

[@joeschmoe3815]

​@@HANKTHEDANKESTIt's still valid even if you're paranoid. Universal truth.

[@divinecomedian2]

That's pretty dumb. Severely limits value of paper and computer. It's just a tradeoff like every other decision.

[@Fail-harold]

​@@divinecomedian2Apple wrote that comment /j

[@BoogieManSince1977]

Love your work and ethic Louis... keep on man

[@AA-xm7rt]

Nicee to see you chilling in the sun mate. Here in the Netherlands it's only rain and mud.

[@Flamester43]

I am here for Cat on Chair content, and holding corporations to the standards they say they have.

[@GirlOnAQuest]

I got flagged by Google as a criminal myself for a similar photo upload for fuck sake they came to my house and searched my entire PC ruining my privacy. Obviously nothing happened to me. Never again use any cloud.

[@lussor1]

Even E2E like proton drive is hard to trust

[@youtubeenjoyer1743]

No you did not. The only way you may have attracted a search warrant is by something incriminating, not by uploading a picture.

[@1y3911]

What about Proton VPN?

[@Lukas-gr8cg]

@@youtubeenjoyer1743did you watch the video? He’s referencing the case where a parent sent pictures of his kid to the doctor and google reported him to the police, saying the same thing happened to him for similar reasons.

[@SWUnreal]

@@youtubeenjoyer1743 where did you come from bot?

[@laboratorioassembler]

Omg... grass... this remember me the old shop on ny when Paul was sitting near a small window with some leaves outside

[@GabrielleTollerson]

God I hate corporates smh.. Thank you for what you do Louis!! ❤

[@trailerparkretirement]

I am not a tech guy and to be honest I don't understand probably a solid third of what you talk about but I LOVE your attitude, your stance on most topics and the way you present your videos - aka no bullshit, live and let live, down with corporate control etc. keep up the great work my friend. We need more folks like you in today's world!

[@creatrixZBD]

Same boat. A lot of this is out of my wheelhouse, but I learn stuff and I like the cut of Louis’s jib. And his cat :)

[@nepdisc3722]

HE'S TOUCHING GRASS!

[@laboratorioassembler]

Not sure but he is extremely close!

[@henrycarlson7514]

So Wise , Thank You .

[@BurstVessels]

Love the new camera setup. Reminds me that I need to spend more time outside.

[@mr1bienvenu1]

You can't delete your own pictures on Facebook either, I tried years ago and they keep showing up in my Facebook memories 🤬They keep all your info forever.

[@trippybruh1592]

I bet I could login to my deleted Facebook account that I deleted twice over the past 10 years.

[@geraudamarger9884]

That's why I have NEVER uploaded friends and family's faces on Facebook and other social media. The day the relationship deteriorates, people can come after you for publishing their face online and you have no way to destroy the files permanently.

[@adrumchapelbear2187]

​​​@@trippybruh1592You can. I deleted mine and logged in year's later out of curiosity. Don't get me wrong no pictures or anything but ultimately my account still existed.

[@variancewithin]

@@trippybruh1592when you "delete" your Facebook profile it says in fine print that they don't delete anything and if you attempt to log in it restores your account from hidden to unhidden.

[@Wolphie]

@@trippybruh1592 I created a new account from scratch once after deleting the old one. If you use the same email Facebook will remember you. If you use a different email, but start to add one or two old friends, your recommendations will match your old account contacts, placing your account in the old one's fingerprint. It was really scary to see.

[@JeffreyMcLain]

The evolution of the arm chair to the back yard is delightful! xD Cheers man, thanks for sharing.

[@DiscardedHamSandwich]

Hey man so after watching your videos I repaired my sony WF100MX4 earbuds from the battery issue they caused. I had waited way to long to send then in. I figured it out. They work great.

[@jaysonrees738]

I got Nextcloud installed. My "cloud" lives in a closet where if I want that stuff deleted badly enough, I can physically pull the drive and smash it with a hammer.

[@rossmanngroup]

This is the way

[@Cornz38]

People are too exhausted to care anymore. The small core of us that do care are just background noise...

[@TallulahSoie]

That is the case. Has been since the internet took off. Probably before that just not as transparent.

[@GrumpyDerg]

I'm too exhausted of all the Asperger's walking around and regurgitating the "hurr nobody cares abt photos of u fapping, or ur location" when all these corpos pay hefty cash to engineers and data scientists to process and monetize precisely that. So I'm slowly moving to hosting my stuff on a rack of old laptops at home with unlimited disk space - one thing at a time. What others do about their data - it's between them, their cloud provider, and Kunar from "Trust & Safety".

[@tranquilpowerhouse]

Exactly.

[@dmitripogosian5084]

But that's how it always is

[@heroslippy6666]

@@GrumpyDerg Its actually more likely that asperger's would cause someone to know about cyber security and recognize the danger the data poses. Its the normal everyday people that are using and paying for these services compromising themselves.

[@justbobagian]

"Louis touches grass, stays mad"

[@BryantAvant]

Louis is touching grass. What an amazing time to be alive.

[@asorexino]

Really good summary on the topic. Big companies make mistakes too and should own up to them - especially that they have the resources to fix them.

[@dusan.racicky]

Finally, someone who said it straight. Yes, you're right and that's also the reason why I actually have network storage at home and owncloud running on my own server at home. Because I don't trust these companies, what they claim is one thing, but they behave completely opposite. In reality, we then their hostages because I don't know where our private data will end up.

[@georgeacosta3554]

Man if a animal pops up at the end for a good scratch this would be amazing 😂👌

[@DoroNijimaru]

good scratch? 💢🩸 or good scratch? 🫳😽

[@pmheart6]

Of course, 100 comments probably say. Most 296's probably didn't have a hard drive. That floppy was not "IN" the 286, but yes, local. I could put it in my fireproof safe. But either a hard drive or floppy, even mac's with a trash can, and later windows with a recycle bin, deleting only removed the tag in the file directory. Chances of recovery diminished over time as the drive was used to write other files. Granted, there were software packages to specifically overwrite the disk space. Some would even do the "nsa 7x standard"

[@NickDrinksWater]

An outdoor episode! Nice. The water bottle is a very great finishing touch

[@MarineBoyGame]

All I know is I'm sick and tired of Apple OS constantly reminding me I'm not connected to iCloud. I do not use iCloud. Why would I connect to it? When the reminder comes up about not being connected, why is there not the option "Turn off" iCloud connection reminders"? Why do I in the middle of movies, videos, creating music, writing... ANY of that, have to put up with MY computer doing what Apple wants, while ignoring what the owner wants - especially when it's something as simple as, "You are not connected to the thing we want you to be connected to, so we will bug the living shit out of you, and prompt you to connect regardless wtf you want, while giving you no way to turn the connect messages the fk off." - Yeh, let's not have that.

[@neatwheat]

And I couldn't find a way yet to disable the Microsoft E-Mail client app window popping up after starting Windows 10 on my new PC. Taking the freedom of self determination away on our own machines bit by bit it seems.

[@LuckyCharms777]

They constantly remind you because they want a monthly subscription from you.

[@neatwheat]

@@LuckyCharms777 It's also broken because it won't automatically log in every time I boot up so I'll have to click 3 buttons every time to get there. I think it's nagware 😝

[@neatwheat]

Or just really poorly advertised crapware (if the issue doesn't magically resolve itself after I subscribe to their service) 😄

[@vincei4252]

The cloud remembers unless it's Google cloud deleting the data for a $105bn pension fund. I -almost- feel no pity for that company at all.

[@notweewee]

It is back after 2 week

[@LuisLarreaJr]

I was waiting for your response on this one.

[@fariss8327]

Louis out here sunbathing whilst roasting Apple. Legend!

[@jdcjeep47]

I go out of my way to make sure I store all of my data locally. I have backups of backups on standard 2.5", 3.5" and SSD drives. I simply do NOT trust the "cloud!" I love technology, but there's so much I don't trust anymore.

[@misfitmanic]

Be sure to utilize some form of offsite storage. If your home were to burn down, your local storage and backups melted, your data should still exist. This will likely involve some level of trust with a third party (think safety deposit box at your bank, or leaving backups with a friend/relative or at the office) unless you have access to a separate property.

[@jdcjeep47]

@misfitmanic I keep a 2 Terabyte hard drive on me at all times, with the most important data. I keep a mirror image of that drive at home on another drive, stored in a safe. Both my desktop computer and laptop each have 2 Terabyte backup drives inside, in addition to 1 Terabyte drives for the OS and other programs. Because I do a lot of IT work outside of the house, my laptop is usually with me. I lost some important data about 20 years ago and vowed to never let that happen again.

[@AthanImmortal]

There was a viewer on WAN show last Friday who claimed updated their iPhone while watching and got photos back despite not syncing to iCloud, so I'm not sure if this was even on device that was undeleting as well.

[@seanlacroix]

The files were on the devices but in a separate folder after deleting

[@drstefankrank]

As far as I know, there are files on your device and references in a database for the apps to use. If you delete a photo, it first gets removed from the database and then from the device. If something happens in between, the reference is lost and the photo not shown, but still on the device. The update may have rescanned the files and added them back to the database. This is clearly an implementation error. First the file has to be deleted, then the database entry and the database should notice if there's a reference to a non existing file and cleans itself up after such an error occurs.

[@Timespider]

You are "The Man" Louis. Brilliant, again.

[@larrybolhuis1049]

And Hertz says only a 'Small Number' of our customers have been arrested for driving our cars after we reported them stolen, but didn't bother to report them UN-stolen when we got them back.

[@davidg3944]

Another Steve Lehto viewer, I see... :)

[@Bowen_Landry]

I remember hearing that on an old tool album... I nearly died laughing when I heard that skit lol.

[@TravisStamper]

I love the fact that you had a pimp cup in the video........🤣. Thanks for the video Louis

[@andrewreed4538]

Good old 286. When I was 14 years old I went to a summer program at Purdue University Northwest and built one and then learned on it. I'm 45 now. Have built many computers since then including my recent AMD 7900X made mostly for video processing.

[@whyjnot420]

I use online storage for truly inconsequential things. It is great for things like game saves (controller setups in steam being so readily available is awesome) or sharing a screenshot of a show. Everything also being kept locally. I guess technically I do use networked storage, but it is my storage on my machines in my house on my own wired network.

[@levanceland]

Trillions and trillions of deleted photos and videos + companies creating articial photos and videos + companies begining VR worlds. It's all making sense now.

[@GHOSTSTARSCREAM]

The thing that's confusing me is, if it's indeed an iCloud issue. Why isn't everything else that is stored on icloud that was also previously deleted and not restored?

[@lance_374]

@@GHOSTSTARSCREAMI saw another case where someone sold a phone to a friend and the friend said some random photos appeared after installing the update. It appears to happen to local photos too.

[@rocketGimbal]

@@lance_374it only ever happened to local photos. The bit with icloud is that it would pop up in icloud as recently uploaded. Meaning that, it would reappear on the local database(due to some bug) and then that “new” photo that just reappeared would be pushed to icloud as that is how icloud normally functions. The user would then notice that the photo reappeared due to it showing up in the recently added section of icloud.

[@MCBuilder]

Apple should take a look at this video. In fact, everyone on this planet should take a look at this video. This is wild

[@RM-jb2bv]

What the hell, for? Almost everything this guy said was bullsheet. I about lost it when he said I should trust his employees with my files bc he’ll “kick their ass” if they abuse them. 😂😂😂

[@alakazamhippity3192]

You realise this is a guy that takes time out of his life to fight in courts for consumers on tech topics yeah?

[@chargingox5759]

Hey LouiS! love your videos! you are the best! just wondering if you were using the P50 in this video , cause I got one used wit hthe Dock after watching your video where you poured water on it and still worked😁! That one was epic!

[@xpyr]

I think the whole reason it's not deleted right away is for a form of backup. So in case you accidentally delete something, you can get it back within the time period before they actually delete it. I remember google keeps deleted email messages for up to 30 days before really deleting them. All so in case you deleted an email message that you now want to get back, and it's within the 30 day period, you can get it back. So my take from this is as Louis said, the schedule for the 30 day period where it was supposed to be deleted, never occurred with some pictures and video due to a software bug or an error with the software's configuration.

[@Daniel_VolumeDown]

I mean, some people apparently get their photos back that they deleted year or more back. But considering the fact that some people say (on LTT wan show someone said something simmilar) that they got their deleted photos back even when they didn't used apple cloud storage to store data; It might be that some bug happened on their device with something like this backup you say (I mean, when you delete photo, at least on some android devices, you can click button to revert what you just did) that caused photos to not be deleted and othe bug showed these photos again in gallery after recent update to ios.

[@vincei4252]

Imagine letting Apple or any cloud solution be your backup strategy. You should be uncomfortable at that skin crawling feeling all over your body.

[@noisserc]

Imagine having to be constantly paying only so they could train their AI with your "private" data.

[@vincei4252]

@@noisserc Seriously.

[@xerr0n]

only when its encrypted, so that even the files aren't readable in the remote servers.

[@GHOSTSTARSCREAM]

@@xerr0nyou do realized, encryption isn't the "be all-end all", right? You can still by pass the encryption data. It might just take abit longer to get saved to the data.

[@GHOSTSTARSCREAM]

This is why I prefer everything to be NOT CONNECTED to the CLOUD. I also hate it that cloud storage is enabled by default and is a pain to get it to disconnect it.

[@Psychologist_Eugen_Fitzherbert]

youre doing great work man!

[@sergii.molchanov]

Some time ago I was considering to apply for a position in Apple. Today I learned something. I learned that not applying for that position was the right choice.

[@thomasbane0]

Hey Louis. You say big tech companies make mistakes. Big tech companies have not earned the benefit of the doubt. And if a company's "mistakes" benefit them, then it's hardly a coincidence that they retained your data after deletion. (Yes it benefits them) love your videos man. Keep fighting the good fight.

[@r1b3y38]

I'm proud to say I've never given into cloud storage or backups of any kind. My main issue was the obvious intent to get you hooked on it then start charging you for the data storage once your needs exceeded the "first hit is free" amount of data storage. 10 years ago it I actually believed our government would prosecute companies for actively interacting with, stealing, and sharing that stored cloud data, certainly not anymore. Buy a NAS or build one yourself, and shut the door on these tech companies.

[@TremereTT]

It was very helpfull writing my thesis! It's also very usefull to as building block in a virtual table top before there was specialized VTT software . It's not all bad. I can't run a NAS as nextcloud server because i'm connected via cable Internet only offerig a DS-Lite connection.

[@drstefankrank]

@@TremereTT You may have at least full IPv6 on your DS-Lite and given that mobile phone providers also do CGNAT, your phone as well should have IPv6. If your router at home isn't the worst crap, you should be able to VPN on native IPv6. (I wouldn't put any mass-produced NAS directly on the internet. They too often failed with security.)

[@TremereTT]

@@drstefankrank The thing is that in Germany only one of 3 and a half network provider does IPV6 all others do IPV4...And mine only does IPV4 So the only way for me would be to rent VM as a proxy/router to do the Full Dual stack magic . I might even use a google server...the smallest VM is for free. OR I will wait for O2/telephonica/e-plus and Vodafone to get IPV6 support for mobile...

[@drstefankrank]

@@TremereTT I'm on with 1&1 on mobile and they use O2 as their network provider, I think. I got a real public IPv6. Online check shows the same as adb shell ip addr. Maybe I understood it wrong. Where do you lack IPv6 support? On your home would be crucial to have a public one, from mobile it should suffice if it can connect somehow to IPv6 targets.

[@PyroCatus]

It's nice hearing nature in the background.

[@cannaroe1213]

I dnot have time for this topic but I love the new backdrop! Much cool! Rock on !

[@CrazyFunnyCats]

We’ve learned so much from you buddy! Cheers ✨☕️☕️☕️✨🐾🇨🇦

[@opraiderman904]

That chalice is straight outta medieval Pizza Hut

[@skratchforce9785]

This guy is a boss. You can do videos anywhere you want and still be badass

[@phlodel]

A picture used to communicate with a doctor for medical purposes. Isn't that protected under HIPPA?

[@DerykRobosson]

No, because you're not a medical practitioner.

[@phlodel]

@@DerykRobosson The doctor is. It's privileged communication between doctor and patient.

[@DerykRobosson]

@@phlodel the doctor isn't the one taking a photo and storing it on someone else's systems.

[@GrumpyDerg]

@@phlodel I think that would mean the doctor thus must ensure that his communication with the patient is done over a medium that can guarantee that privacy and nothing else. That said, I won't beat him up over using Google: if it's an emergency and there's no other viable option - you then stand between using what you have or refusing to treat a sick child... Besides, these corpos gloat about how they respect and protect your privacy and how "your privacy is of utmost importance to us". Repeat it enough times and people might start to believe you...

[@DoroNijimaru]

​@@phlodelthe picture had to exist chronologically before it was sent to the doctor. that's where this problem arose (iirc). the doctor wasn't involved, save for requesting the picture. pictures don't carry context on their own. they judged the picture without context, deciding it was their right and obligation to do so. it's like they're sitting in your house watching you at all times, you start to get your kid ready for a bath and they're going to call the police on you. they don't judge context, they just pretend everything is the worst situation it could possibly be. don't let them into your house, and don't let them access to your children.

[@nicsxnin6786]

I have absolutely nothing scandalous on my phone or the cloud yet I find myself outraged by the thought of someone misrepresenting how they handled my data. Thank you for not just pointing out the problem but doing something to help!👏👏👏👏

[@kaihimura3897]

This is perfect timing. I am planing on visiting Japan with a friend and was concerned how I'd store all the videos and photos that will be taken. I generally don't like giving other people access to view events in/my life. Thanks for recommending some open-source alternatives! Time to get reading.