April 2024 Points Changes in Warhammer 40,000

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Welcome to a 3 Grots in a Vox: Live Stream! Tonight we are discussing the new April 2024 Dataslate with Tony (Sanguinius), Mark (Mephiston) and John (BA Commander) as your hosts! We'll be going through the changes and taking questions from chat! We hope you can join us for this live show.
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[@danielcorp7273]

Great to see Tony and Mark, love it when you guys get together with John. I always chuckle throughout your streams. 3 GROTS is my favourite channel on KZbin, best channel on the platform imo. I always look forward to the next episode. I think you guys are a cult classic up there with Red Dwarf! Great content. Nice one guys. Big shout out from Wakefield. Keep up the super work. Looking forward already to the next episode👍

[@3Grots]

You're too kind, mate. ☺ -- Mark

[@RSBurgener]

Hey, good to see you guys! John is right about those Mega-Nobz, they are gonna be a real menace. That's a pretty unbelievable datasheet. I will say this, though, Ork players are good people and deserve the win. I am salty about the fact that I've got a stunningly gorgeous Heldrake that I spent two weeks painting and he's just gonna sulk up there in his belfrey all edition! And don't get me started on my Contemptors and Decimators!

[@3Grots]

We won't get you started... you can do that yourself. 🙂

[@RSBurgener]

@@3Grots it's old news now anyway 😄

[@Astartesparty]

:p Tonys intro makes me laugh so hard every time

[@3Grots]

And necessary... 🤣

[@philliparrigo]

I got 6 boxes of Reivers when they came out. They had a decent profile on their pistols with AP -2. My problem then was their combat Knives gave an extra attack. They should have had at least AP -1 instead. Incursors, a dedicated shooting unit, with Paired Knives got AP -1. I feel those profiles should have been reversed, imo. Now in 10th, they got WORSE?! Their pistols are AP -1, but gained Precision and their Combat Knives still have no AP, but also gained Precision. I've since slowly converted all those models into either Death Company, cause those helms look sick after for DC, or scouts.

[@3Grots]

Reivers... really are just a bad joke at this point, aye.

[@Paradukes]

The Storm Speeders definitely need to go down in points, but frankly I don't think the Invader ATV or Outriders can be solved with points alone; they need some kind of rules boost. The extra attacks on the charge that the Outriders used to get would do the job, even if they go back up in points again.

[@3Grots]

I completely agree with everything you have said here - Tony

[@MariusGage]

Now hear me out! For fun I’ve been building tactical squads, but comparing them to bladeguard I must be missing something because on paper when you add a librarian to the tactical squad VS a naked full BGV it seems remarkably equal with the tactical squads coming out on top in a number of ways. 220pts for 11 models vs 180 points for 9 (20 points a model each) Both have t4 with a 4++ but tacticals have a 4+ fnp vs psychics 24 w vs 18 w Melee, BGV have an advantage, but shooting tacticals easily wins out. OC 21 vs OC 6 If we want to allow a BGV a character a number of these stats still don’t swing and for the same price you can buy a Rhino for the squad to sit on an objective. Why won’t it work! 😂

[@3Grots]

... Sorry, you lost me at Tactical Squads... 😁 -- Mark

[@jtmoney466]

There is no spoon

[@3Grots]

We can only show you the door... 🙂

[@MariusGage]

Wait, so you’re saying GW said “Custodes points have always been down”

[@3Grots]

... yeah, sounds about like what Tony said? 🙂