Arcane Raised The Bar!🌟

My thoughts on #Arcane, one of the highest-rated Netflix originals of all time!
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[@DanielGreeneReviews]

So I was just wrong! SPOILER: she does fire at the council. I thought when we see the reflection of the missile in his eye that was him seeing it head towards the gate, but nope! Jynx shot the council. Holy shit!

[@Darkmat17]

SPOILERS: She basically fulfilled Silco’s last order of completing the “weapon” using the Gemstone. So seeing her firing it after she killed him (while he was trying to kill Vi) hits super hard for me

[@togox]

So.. is it a 10/10 then?

[@mfmr200]

@@Darkmat17 that is a hex weapon?

[@nittomckain9739]

It must be a 10/10 no matter what. this is what large studios will try to imitate in years to come and fail miserably.

[@Darkmat17]

@@mfmr200 you clearly see her putting the gemstone in for powering it up. Also the blue energy blast is a pretty clear give away (along with all the runes engraved on it)

[@Nightley4]

You know that feeling of emptiness after finishing a book, or a show: "What am I going to do now?" This is when you know it was really good. Arcane was *really* good.

[@Stayner]

I have watch the series 3 times now. And complete episodes reactions of 3 different channels and dozens of reviews and I am still craving for more Arcane content.

[@eps4560]

It's the same when people die. The more awesome they were the more we are shattered when they pass. The abusive ones we feel relief when they're gone. It's a stressful measurement of value.

[@SS1orys]

The final scene when Silco mention he would have never given Jinx to Piltover is genuine. Silco was shown as a man who would do anything to achieve his goals, which is why he had a fallout with Vander, as Vander wasn't able to sacrifice the people he cared about for the cause. Now that Silco is put in the same position where he has to sacrifice Jinx, he visits Vander's statue one last time and tells him, "It all makes sense now brother. Is there anything more undoing than a daughter?" While the last sentence seems like he's saying Jinx is the problem, Silco is referring to both his and Vander's relationship to Powder, who was their adopted daughter. Silco couldn't sacrifice Jinx for the sake of Zaun.

[@vcprovost]

This is why I felt in my chest when he died. He was a bad guy.... But not a "bad" dad.

[@AtticsTV]

yup his entire behaviour has been built around his hate for Vander betraying him and dropping the cause they had together, and now he is in the same situation as Vander and he finally understands him. He understands why Vander did what he did.

[@Qubicle.]

@@vcprovost he's definitely a bad dad. you don't go around raising your kid to be a murderer, lying to her about her sister being dead. though, he is sincere in his ways to raise Jinx, I'll give him that. I think he genuinely believe Vi would be a bad influence to Jinx, because she (Vi) doesn't share his vision, and from his POV, his vision is the right one.

[@justinjeffries1554]

@@Qubicle. Didn't he actually not know Vi was alive? The whole point of Vi being alive was so that the cop had secret leverage over him. He didn't lie, he told Jinx what he knew, Vi was gone and dead

[@idkman2633]

@@Qubicle. He a 100% did NOT know Vi was alive. The scene where Sevika walks into his study to give him the information that the sister is back, he swiftly turns around to exclaim ”From the dead?!”

[@AudrenDev]

Mistborn in this artstyle... one can dream Also nah she blew up the Council.

[@balazstoth7061]

Also the world of Malazan. Darujhistan would look lit.

[@bczpd]

MALAZAN! Exactly what I was thinking of!

[@paoloalto]

@Christian Ogara lets be real, only animation can do malazan justice.

[@clarateixeira7932]

I wanted WOT in this style so bad. Not really digging the live action Amazon is doing instead. Fingers crossed for Mistborn... someday!

[@criticizedreviews1081]

@Christian Ogara same, the artstyle is perfect for it

[@maras00jr49]

I am pretty sure Silco wouldn't have given Jinx up. The scene with Silco and Vander was there because of that. I think Silco was of the same mindset as Vander near the end.

[@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954]

Exactly - the whole scene where Silco sits at Vander's statue and talks to his dead former friend, saying 'is there anything so undoing as a daughter?' is about Silco coming to understand Vander; why Vander betrayed Silco himself and why he couldn't give up Vi. At last Silco truly understands what motivated Vander and finds himself making the same decisions for the same reasons. There are other clues as well. The scene where Jinx is badly wounded after fighting Ekko shows us the sheer level of horror and fear that Silco experiences when he thinks Jinx might be dying. Jinx is unconscious at the time, so if this is an act, who is he playing to? His subordinates who pretty much despise and fear her anyway? An unconscious Jinx who can't even hear him? And when he brings her to Singed to try to save her life, again his concern for her is obvious and she is in no position to see it, so who is he putting the act on for there? Singed? Why would he even bother? When he awakes from his sedation by Singed (who sedates him because he believes that Silco couldn't stand to see Jinx in pain, a sentiment Singed expresses because he says he also is a father) and finds Jinx gone, his reaction to suspecting that Singed may have harmed her is immediately violent (even though Jinx isn't even in the room), just the sort of thing an angry and frightened father might do when he is out of his mind with worry for his daughter. Time and again from episode four onward it is made clear that Jinx is widely viewed by Silco's subordinates and peers as a liability he should get rid off, and never once does he entertain the notion for an instant, typically responding to the suggestion with disdain if not cold, menacing anger. When Jinx goes off on a rampage in Piltover and kills several Enforcers and blows up a building, hugely complicating Silco's life, his response is not threats or violence as he would treat any of his lackies - instead he acts like a worried and disappointed father, mostly concerned because she put herself in danger. The meeting between Silco and Jayce is also illuminating. When Jayce says the price for everything Silco has ever wanted - for the independent, sovereign nation of Zaun he has literally spent decades of his life fighting for - is to give up Jinx for her crimes, Silco's immediate response is that they aren't her crimes, meaning that as the crime boss of the Undercity they are his crimes; his first impulse is to protect her, figuratively falling on his sword to do so if necessary. When Jayce won't be moved on the demand that Silco give up Jinx, the next scene we see Silco in is Silco at Vander's statute where he expresses an understanding of why Vander acted as he did, making it clear that the moment Jayce demanded Jinx as the price for peace and an independent Zaun the deal was off in Silco's eyes. Silco abandons his life's work in a heartbeat to protect his adopted daughter. A major part of Silco's character arc is his realisation that what he thought he wanted in life - power, wealth, the respect of peers, social standing, an independent Zaun with him in a leadership role - doesn't actually matter to him anywhere near as much as his adopted daughter does. Like Vander before him, his dreams pale in comparison to his desire for fatherhood he never even released he had before Jinx came into his life. Far from one last ditch attempt at a posthumous manipulation of Jinx, I think the point is that Silco's final words were entirely in earnest. He knows he is dying, and his only thought is to try to comfort his daughter, to mitigate the horror she must feel to have killed him. He has already abandoned all his other plans and dreams - she is literally the only thing that matters to him anymore. Silco is very much a villain, He is not a moral man by any stretch of the imagination, but he is also not irredeemably evil either. His grand redeeming attribute is his genuine love and concern for his adopted daughter. That is the one thing in his life that is absolutely pure. He may have started out with the intent to manipulate Powder/Jinx for cynical personal advantage when he first found her after Vander's death, but to use a D&D metaphor, I think he very swiftly failed his wisdom saving throw against desire for parenthood. By the end, Silco is a transformed man. Of course, that transformation won't prevent Jinx reacting to the further trauma of his death by going even further off the deep end, but that wasn't his intention.

[@hasniichasnii7671]

@@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954 damn that was a great analysis essay lol. Great points. Agreed. Very well said.

[@JackJacko87]

@@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954 Great analysis. The transition from manipulation to genuine caring is also something of a theme in the season, the relationship between Mel and Jayce has a similar dynamic.

[@Hai43561]

Exactly, Silco was going to turn himself in just like Vander did in episode 3 to try to protect Jinx.

[@Chrysley]

@@gregorygreenwood-nimmo4954 completely agree. During the negotiation with Jayce at the docks, Silco was on his usual calm, confident demeanor until Jayce demanded for Jinx. You can clearly see the confidence go away immediately with the fluttering of the eyes as if he was stuttering. Like an unseen onset of panic. It's easily missed if you don't pay much attention to it.

[@danc1513]

The tidbit about vi and Caitlyn reminding you of your moms is so endearing. It is a genuinely lovely relationship.

[@typhoonzebra]

I think Silco was sincere at the end. In his parlay with Jayse, one of the demands was that he stop the production of Shimmer. Shimmer, the drug that has given him a death grip on Zaun and he waves it away in the name of independence. And the gemstone, which he knows is the key to hextech, the main advantage Piltover has over Zaun especially with Shimmer gone. He gives that up with just a nod. But with Jinx, he puts up a fight, and refuses to give her up, even trying to give himself up in her place. She wasn't there. He had no one to be performing to. No one to be lying to. The care he shows for her there is genuine.

[@chrishaven1489]

It's also worth noting that Silco not giving up Jinx is a deliberate reflection of Vander's refusal to hand over Vi. When Silco was sitting by Vander's statue, he was monologuing about how he finally understood why Vander did what he did

[@laurentiu.f8804]

Yeah idc how anyone can say its unclear what he would have done

[@jonbaxter2254]

He absolutley was. Being a villain doesn't mean he doesn't love his daughter

[@jonbaxter2254]

@@chrishaven1489 "There is nothing more undoing that a daughter...." The daughter herself isn't the undoing, it's how she makes you feel and go back on your previous self. Your love for her prevents you from being fully ruthless.

[@plumberboy]

I agree, i think most people would be honest in their last moments. Silco had no reason to lie.

[@popkhorne5372]

I think you missed the mark on silco if you still have doubts about his feelings. Sure, he was manipulative, a villain etc, but he genuinely loved jinx : he saw himself in her when vi abandonned her. But the most revealing point is him going to vander's satue finally realising why he stopped fighting as hard for zaun : because he had familly to protect. And he realizes the irony : he is now even more guilty than vander of what he accused him of. He has literally gained everything he wanted, but a weakness he created for himself prevents him from achieving his goal. His love for jinx as his daughter. As twisted as that relationship was, he did love her. And i fully belive him when he says, knowing he is on his last breath that he would not have given her up.

[@MaddieFrankX]

Just a small correction, in his last breath he said she was perfect. :'(

[@popkhorne5372]

@@MaddieFrankX i never said the contrary, but he also said that he never would have given her up during it, which was the important part for what i was explaining.

[@LoyaltL]

@@popkhorne5372 His final words were the perfect one-two combo. First, assured her that he was never going to betray her and his love for her is genuine. Then made it clear that that will never change no matter what because she's always perfect in his eyes.

[@SoloFeeders]

A lot of us League fans know about the Character arcs and what happens to them later on. And all I can say....is that you're in for a treat. But as seen in season 1, it comes with a sizeable dose of pain. 😅

[@johnd3421]

Here is to hopes that Camille and Urgot will get some screen time.

[@SoloFeeders]

@@johnd3421 hope so!

[@tonydanatop4912]

@@johnd3421 Agreed and im still holding out for prof-von,yip personally 😗

[@donncamulos6191]

@@johnd3421 If Urgot becomes involved, that means Swain is now controlling Noxus, and that opens a whole different show on its own.

[@johnd3421]

@@donncamulos6191 True

[@cognitivedissonance9938]

Spoiler: Jinx did actually fire at the council. The implication is that they all died as they voted for peace. There is a possibility that some of them may survive. Victor with his experimentation, Jayce with the shield from the hammer (ep. 8) and the glowing gold on Mell may be hinting at some protection from the missile. However, the intent was to kill them all. We won't know for sure who died until season 2. Loved the review and I agree with a lot of your takes on the show :D

[@DanielGreeneReviews]

Oh snap! I guess I interpreted it wrong! Well damn it’s hitting even harder then.

[@Aerorza]

This is exactly what I wanted to say, you can see in the final scene when Mel turns around the missile comes through the window. I though for a second that I had missed something when Daniel said it hit the gate

[@joshlyman7059]

mind you i know nothing about lol, that being said, my first thought after the end was hextech was gonna produce some kind of a bubble like the gloves did for vi

[@cognitivedissonance9938]

@@joshlyman7059 Yeah, we saw the hextech devices (hammer and gloves) produce shields during the last few episodes. I think this foreshadows a way for the necessary characters to survive the explotion.

[@rye5043]

spoilers If there are people that's gonna die, it would be the least important ones. Jayce, Viktor, and Cait's mom will survive. The old dude in red will eventually become the head of his clan (not sure how that happened). I don't know about Mel though. She's too good of a character to kill this early.

[@androski5247]

"In fighting topside, you'd sacrifice everything that we are. It's not the way. Can't you see that?" Vander to Silco Ep. 3 "Oh it all makes sense now, Brother. Is there anything so undoing as a daughter?" Silco to Vander Ep. 9

[@JessieGender1]

Oh see, I loved the music choices so much in this series. As someone who really loves moments of music in shows that help to visualize and underscore the themes as well as emotion of the story I thought it was great. It was also so wonderfully queer, I absolutely adored it.

[@Arezoo298195]

I loved the music so much too.

[@chrillabbe]

I just thought it felt so corny. It hurt a little to watch.

[@bruceh9780]

I honestly don't get why Daniel made such a big deal about the music being rock/heavy. I can only guess he's projecting a traditional fantasy expectation at a show that clearly isn't trying for that.

[@Arezoo298195]

@@chrillabbe I felt a little of that when the first song I didn't expect happened but then I just realized 'oh so this is the type of show I'm watching', after that, every other song landed for me. The song of the montage in episode 6 of Jinx firing the blue flair and Vi running now makes me choke up every time I hear it and I have stupidly added it to my playlist. lol

[@jerod5636]

I didn’t really notice any queer stuff in it at all until you mentioned it. Obviously I saw it but it felt natural and such a part of the characters it didn’t feel ham fisted or tacked on solely to tick a diversity box. I’m so, so impressed with this series so far.

[@jackwriter1908]

Somehow the best part of this Review was Daniel saying _„My Moms are gay.“_ with this undertone that gave me the vibe of _If you are too stupid to understand how you can have two mothers._

[@CH-tv1cy]

Not gonna lie I didn't get it.

[@fourfours9928]

he also could've been adopted lol ( or have a stepmother)

[@jackwriter1908]

@@fourfours9928 I mean... Isn't that how gay couples do that? Adopting a child? I can't really talk about _Stepmothers_ since I don't have one or know someone, but I wouldn't call both *Mom* if that would be the case. It would just feel wrong, I think...

[@fourfours9928]

@@jackwriter1908 he specifically said biological mother at one point so that had the potential to be confusing

[@titans1fan93]

My favorite character was Victor. The way they did his story was beautiful. Him and Jayce story was so well done. With Victor being from the under world and not wanting to build weapons. To his will to survive, and the death of his lab assistant was brutal. I can’t wait to see his character develop. Also the Ekko vs Jinx fight was the best fight scene in animation format I ever seen. Such a good show. Glad you liked it Daniel.

[@Junya01]

A few other contenders for best fight scene in animation - Isaac vs Ludmila Castlevania S4, Into the Spiderverse Miles vs Kingpin, that one Demon Slayer fight with the spider dood, Opening fight sequence of Attack on Titan S3 pt 1, among others

[@user-ee8fo6hp4v]

yes viktor best boi. also, on the jayce note, jayce is very much an asshole. his only reason for wanting "peace" is to not have to deal with zaun himself and it wouldnt lead to the good of zaun, just to the convenience of piltover.

[@elderyaag3534]

yes, evolve

[@luizafett6642]

@@Junya01 I would also add Levi and Kenny' fight in Attack on Titan S3 (don't remeber which part)

[@gurentgc3546]

Yes Viktor... get ready for "Glorious Evolution!"

[@GoofyGE3K]

To be fair, Imagine Dragons and their style of music has been connected to League for a long long time

[@hamsters7760]

Imagine Dragons writes catchy, generic stuff that's easy to sell as a theme for all kinds of things. They've gotten very good at it.

[@cloberlobster2276]

@@hamsters7760 no, imagine dragon is punk rock, and zaun is heavily inspired by punk rock genre.

[@MaddieFrankX]

I mean, I discovered Imagine Dragons because they would always play songs for LOL in game events before they were even mainstream.

[@hamsters7760]

@@cloberlobster2276 Man I actually dig a number of their songs, despite myself... but they are the farrrrrthest from punk rock.

[@_Amit_Sunil]

More like puke rock

[@akinathor5303]

I do not agree about the music sequences at all, I think Riot Music and the director did a really good job to make the songs and implement them in various creative ways ! I still listen to the arcane playlist everyday.

[@thebigshep]

I'm definitely in the "keep your modern music tf outta my fantasy" camp, especially Imagine Dragons lol, but even I gotta admit that sequence on the bridge in episode 7 between Echo and Jinx went hard

[@amellirizarry9503]

his take on the music was the worst on my opinion, the show isn’t a period piece, it’s full of anachronisms and that’s what makes the world feel unique and fresh, also it’s paying homage to the League of legends music videos that were the first introduction to the lore for a lot of people

[@AthenaTennosN]

@@amellirizarry9503 ...and it' literally a dark-ish urban fantasy setting with a lot of street culture-inspired aesthetic sensibilities right off the gate. Honestly, even grunge/punk wouldn't really be out of place, at least in Zaun.

[@1beriforever]

@@amellirizarry9503 no such thing as a 'bad' opinion. I also liked the music, but it does sometimes seem a bit forced, like they made a contract with the artists and just had to plug them in. I really liked the original score and felt they had a great opportunity to tailor it to the sequences. So there's no need to be radically on either side. Stanning is not constructive while Daniel's opinion actually contribues to improvements

[@justhaku9240]

I think it's completely understandable for anyone to not like the soundtrack, you can't please everyone especially with music. But I think the criticism of it being distracting or immersion breaking is a bad argument

[@pegah_di]

I don't understand why you keep saying "maybe I enjoyed this show so much because I had such low expectations." This show is genius. The writing is fantastic, the characters are deep and believable, the animation is incredible, and the dialogue is absolutely amazing. I'm surprised as to why you feel you need low expectations to enjoy a excellent, well-made show.

[@agatasukowska1213]

Awww, how cool is it to look at those two badass characters and go “huh, they remind me of my moms!” 😄

[@reginaldforthright805]

Haha. No one has two moms, kid.

[@agatasukowska1213]

Haha. Don’t be an asshole, Reg 🙄

[@myvalley109]

​@@reginaldforthright805 Oh, I see you still live in the 19th century, Reginald.

[@MrZxcvbnm22]

Sandreson's MISTBORN should be brought to life by the same animators IMO.

[@reyhanehalizadeh3354]

My thoughts exactly!! That would be the best way to adapt Sanderson's magic system.

[@Andre_101]

This!!!! I thought the same thing, imagine how stylized Luthadel would be or how the beautiful the power system could be adapted.

[@ignaciogarcia8602]

this

[@cj-hw3pv]

Oohhhh yesss

[@MrGewtman]

Yes

[@jefferyskeenan]

As an artist, this show really really is so awesome. It makes me want to draw, and draw, and draw....great job on this epic show.

[@jasonmckenzie2835]

I really enjoyed the musical choices especially in episode 6 when Jinx uses the blue flare. Inspired choice of music that nearly brought me to tears. I'm now listening to the soundtrack on Spotify.

[@troikas3353]

Guns for Hire. It's an awesome song, also Woodkid is one of many artists I did not expect to find in this sound track.

[@aldrensiscar3988]

Basically every fandom wants an animated style like Arcane. From Red Rising, KKC Brandon Sanderson etc.

[@IloveElsaofArendelle]

But there's only one Arcane

[@reginaldforthright805]

No, I would prefer rankin bass style stop motion. I think most cosmere fans would agree with me.

[@billthecanuck]

11:00 i don't understand, the missile was clearly fired at the council.... it hits the glass behind them as the show cuts to credits.

[@Nightley4]

You should rewatch the last scene, she sent the missile right into the council room's window.

[@mattmichael3310]

Loved Act 1 and 2 but act 3 was easily my favorite. I believe Silco was sincere in the end given his convo with Vander statue and his last words.

[@sandeepaweerasinghe120]

Am I the only one thinking Arcane artstyle would be perfect for a Stormlight Archive show

[@breadguy325]

yes you are the only person who has thought of this

[@procrastinator1727]

seen it brought up many times which I too agree would be awesome, the commenter above is simply wrong

[@TheDiabeticGameMaster]

that's so funny. i actually have been praising the pop-rock music they used. i felt it really suited it, especially since they started setting it up since the first episode. If they had one insert song it would be weird. but since all the big music numbers were pop songs, in the end, it almost felt like a musical. I loved it. Wish they'd actually make a steampunk musical now.

[@KittyBoom360]

Also, just to add to that, a lot if the music has been a big a part of the LoL community. Imagine Dragons is basically an in-game band existing in-universe for years now. Other music was part of old trailers for the game and such. Like when you hear Jinx listening to her own LoL theme song from an old trailer and then Silco walks in and turns it off because he's mad, epic!

[@TheDiabeticGameMaster]

@@KittyBoom360 haha. That's fascinating. I had no idea Imagine Dragons existed in world, I thought that they just did that for the show. Oh man, I bet this is one of those things where you people who love league are getting so much more out of this. and it's not in a dumb panderig way at all. this show is so good it makes me mad that other shows mess stuff like this up all the time, lol. Arcane has convinced me to check out the cinematics, I looked over the map, I was thinking about maybe looking into the lore... but, then again, I don't want spoilers, lol. But I am really curious to get more, I've been thinking about trying Ruined King or maybe that NaNu game, even though neither are really my genre. Do you think somebody who is fascinated with the lore could enjoy these games? I'm just SURE I wont like LoL itself or the card game. Those are my two least favorite game genres. Well, truth be told, I am addicted to Magic the Gathering and am about to pick up Warhammer 40k irl and I just started Bloodborne. So I just don't have time for any of these "large games". But maybe I could make time for a weird RPG or a platformer. What do you think?

[@TheDude4515]

@@TheDiabeticGameMaster Imagine Dragons are actually really big fans of the game. They've said that they've been late to several of their own concerts because they were caught up in league matches that ran a little late. Their 2014 song "Warriors" is the the theme song for the LoL world championship tournament that year, which they performed live at the finals. Riot and ID have a pretty good working relationship. They don't exist within the world of League of Legends, {well, technically now they DO} but they do have really close ties to the community.

[@TheDiabeticGameMaster]

@@TheDude4515 That's pretty cool.

[@SultanFilm]

I think he is the only one I have seen that expressed not liking it. Ya, it might seem off. But, it gave such a different feel and suited all the time. That it didn't matter.

[@kingjayded4752]

Need a Stormlight Archive animated series from this animation studio when its done asap

[@carlossalazar3182]

All I need is to see Kaladin vs Szeth in animated format, and I can die happily

[@mayormars5135]

Nah i want it live action man

[@moazzamshah5106]

@@mayormars5135 it would be like the WOT live action which isn’t good

[@kingjayded4752]

@@mayormars5135 nah keep that, i wanna see animated surgebinding. Not some crappy effects done in post (no offense to WoT I like it so far :) )

[@olorin3815]

@@moazzamshah5106 eh i mean wot can be done live action just didnt happen things like mistborn and stormlight would be a lot harder eith all the flying and stuff and shardplate and swords would look off

[@lucastavares206]

Just a observation here: The choice for Imagine Dragons is not arbitrary. Imagine Dragons as a band is special for the community. They did the 2014 world's song, amongst others.

[@nomnombr]

i literally cry coming back to that login screen

[@balazstoth7061]

They are also fans of the game.

[@Adley65]

@@balazstoth7061 Also Co-Owners of the eSports Organisation Rogue.

[@martialsant]

Wait did i miss something at the end? Jinx fired the missle and we were left with a cliffhanger to know who survived in the council right?

[@Andre-jv8jv]

Yes yes she did

[@Andre-jv8jv]

It is quite clear I just rewatched it

[@martialsant]

Lol i thought i missed some post cred or something. I feel the ending as much as it annoys me with the cliffhanger it leaves me hooked to watch the next season

[@khamok6916]

Wait does Daniel not think the Jinx Rocket hit the council room?

[@20storiesunder]

Yeah, odd right?!

[@aidanmaharaj3795]

I mean he must it was legitimatly the ending but Mel buying locket like a true support xD

[@rustygear447]

Yeah it almost hit them in the face and somehow he thinks it hits the gate? LOL

[@drilltotheheavens1695]

“If I hear season 2 is terrible than I’ll be happy I watched season 1” The Promised Neverland in a nutshell.

[@landonwyndham979]

Oof.

[@carlosdanielcalderonmontoy3723]

The Promised Neverland doesn't have a season 2 what are you talking about?

[@lynxaway]

@@carlosdanielcalderonmontoy3723 hahahaha

[@carlosdanielcalderonmontoy3723]

@@lynxaway all I know about TPN is the first season and the manga😉😉🤣

[@PedroMiguel-zv3fj]

"Everyone is going in with low expectations" with the exception of their core target audience of league players who know this had to be good since all other animations done by Fortiche for Riot has been amazing

[@chrishaven1489]

No, actually, to my understanding, a good chunk of League players thought this was gonna be 'meh' at best. Primarily because video game adaptations tend to suck ass. So, apart from Castlevania, this was something of a pleasant precedent

[@PedroMiguel-zv3fj]

@@chrishaven1489 the chunk of people I know that were aware of the series was really hyped, especially after trailers

[@vallano8970]

@@PedroMiguel-zv3fj Really hyped doesn't necissarily mean it's expected to be good though right? People are very hyped for lots of things despite bringing their expectations low as to not be dissapointed. I've played league for years now on and off along with a lot of my friends and we were all hyped in a sense despite going in with rather low expectations.

[@PedroMiguel-zv3fj]

@@vallano8970 hmmm, that's not really how I'd define "hype", when I used the word "hyped" I assumed that something hyped has a higher bar of expectation vs something that doesn't have a lot of attention

[@thomastucker7317]

I've played League for like 8 years at this point and I expected it to be garbage. The lore is kinda cool, but they really assed the Sentinals of Light event which was pretty much one of their first big pushes of story telling through the game and it wasn't good. In addition video game adaptations in general have a history of being bad. Most of my circle of friends who also play the game wasn't expecting it to be good. So I think everyone going in with low expectations is a safe assumption

[@ouroboros_1355]

gotta say this is by far one of the best series I've enjoyed in a while, everything was amazing, but that last chapter OMG the tea party scene was a masterpiece!!!

[@ouroboros_1355]

Jinx really knows how to play the horror monster

[@chillgamingchannel1283]

Loved it. Caitlin grew on me the most across the series. I also liked Echo and Heimerdinger and I'm super glad they found each other and hope that goes somewhere in Season 2 :)

[@EneruM]

As a League of Legends player the character i found most interest in was Viktor without a doubt. I won't spoil anything to none players, but watching him develop, how he cares and fights... his relationships with his mentors and partners, the struggle he suffered for coming from Zaun... damn, i can't wait to see more of him in s2!

[@laiaal.3324]

Same, Viktor was my favourite character in the show and I'm dying to see how he ends up being game Viktor

[@Arthur_CNW]

:Warning: Potential Spoiler Territory!: I haven't played LoL, so I don't know anything about the game Viktor - but, a thought occurred to me at the missile end scene; What Viktor did to himself perhaps somehow made him capable of tapping into the arcane powers without the need of Hextech (or did he fuse some hextech into himself?), and he's actually the one that is going to somehow save the council as the missile comes in. That thought then led me to going "Wait a minute.... That scene in the beginning, where little Jayce and his mother get saved by that mystery mage... Was that Viktor from the future, traveling back in time and attempting to alter the timeline in order to prevent some horrible thing from happening in the "present", that I assume we'll get to know about in season two? o_O"

[@laiaal.3324]

@@Arthur_CNW I am not sure if I want to partially destroy your wild and pretty cool theory because I absolutely love half of it (we will see if you are right!). So if you don't any mini spoiler or correction to your theory, don't keep reading and be happy theorizing hahaha But for the second half of the theory, thr mage that saves Jayce at the beginning is another LoL champion, so time traveler Viktor is too much 😅 and moreover, there is another champion that has time related abilities and it's from Zaun, so we will probably see them in s2 :) I'm trying to not spoil too much, just give enough game info for you to adapt your theories!

[@Arthur_CNW]

@@laiaal.3324 Cheers ^_^ I actually just did some googling, and I think I know who that mage was now, but I'll leave the name out :)

[@patrickborkland8797]

Imagine a Red Rising adaptation made in this style/by this production company. Give me all the razor fights and Iron Rain!!

[@1Play48]

god the iron rain would look cool

[@atlasrises4]

Only real disagreement I had here is that act 1 was the strongest. I thought it was honestly the hardest part to get through because of how by the numbers it felt until the 3rd episode.

[@maximeteppe7627]

I guess it depends what you're after. Act 1 is a bit by the numbers, but it's also way more focused. I really liked Viktor for instance, but I felt like maybe most of it could have been kept for season 2? same for the setup for Noxus, which seemed to contribute little to the first season's arc - though it really depends on the payoff we get next season.

[@eternal7912]

Honestly, Act 1 as a whole was not as entertaining as Acts 2 and three. Episode 3 is the exception though as it really set the stage for the rest of the season. So rather than Act 1 being the strongest act over all, people should be saying Episode 3 was the strongest episode. That said, Episodes 1 and 2 weren't bad. They just weren't as good as the rest of the show.

[@SultanFilm]

@@eternal7912 You sort of need episodes 1 and 2 to be slower or by the numbers. As its the set up for episode 3 to hit as hard as it does. It's supposed to be lull you in.

[@fuzzzywall6311]

League of legends started out with music videos, and they were used to hype up events like the world's championships, so for me those parts where the music takes the spotlight were some of the best parts of the show for me, specifically looking at the ekko vs jinx fight on the bridge.

[@BensBookCave]

I love the show, I’m not familiar with the game but the show really got my attention, great review!

[@gravargen943]

For your own sake: don't play the game. Even Lol players hate Lol. Terrible game. Awesome lore. Even better cinematics. Though if that LoL RPG does get released, I'm not against giving that a try.

[@KongFuzii]

@@gravargen943 its a great game. just toxic community.

[@Junya01]

@@KongFuzii you click to kill spawning minions for 15 minutes before meeting and arguing with teammates that think they're smarter than they are, anti-fun snowball mechanics, each loss feels like a slap to the face and you question if you're actually having fun

[@KongFuzii]

@@Junya01 still addicting

[@LEThavFUNnSMILE]

I would play the game but I'm from Europe slightly different player base then in NA

[@niteglys]

When the lockpick was working on the four shackles during the rescue, I was reminded by Brandon Sanderson's lecture on how to make fight scenes exciting. He said you count something and when the counting is done, the fight is over. The four locks was that count and it was so well done.

[@bennahlundquist9022]

I would love to see Mistborn in this style!

[@togox]

I enjoyed all the music parts. I dont find them distracting at all. Most of the time when the music starts, the story is told by the visiuals, there are no dialoges u can get distracted from. for example jinx using the blue flare.

[@JEUNE-BATARD]

I love the tea party test: it's really smart writing. Jinx makes Vi decide between killing Cait in exchange for powder or not. Vi tries to get out of it not realizing that the alternative was just having Jinx and Caitlyn alive. This means that to Vi she can't accept the new Powder that is now Jinx. This is why she is sad and says she can't love her like she used to. She thinks that Jinx is such a negative alternative.

[@thelastknight7195]

I was blown away by this show, I watched it all in a day, the music was AMAZING and I haven’t stopped listening to the music! Can’t wait for season 2, the ending was EPIC

[@lbshitkkers]

Also I feel the wheel of time can take some notes from this show, a lot of things they’re struggling with right now, arcane did extremely well

[@vinodhchincholi3698]

I neeed a [insert unadapted SFF IP here] in the same style as Arcane now

[@20storiesunder]

I really loved the music choises - it embodies Zhaun perfectly. Edit: Daniel how did you miss the ending like that? :O

[@abdelm4lek]

When people like me, who haven't played LOL at all and don't know anything about this world's lore, really get to enjoy it to the max and feel like this has to the potential to be masterpiece, it already is.

[@Faish09]

Happy to see Arcane doing justice to the world of Runeterra, which is neglected in the game it hailed from. MOBAs are a very limited format for storytelling…

[@user-ee8fo6hp4v]

runeterra's getting more spotlight now tho. with ruined king and LoR. (and the mmo coming in 29 years)

[@bluecrow3748]

Daniel being reminded of his moms : 🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺🥺

[@MrBreakdownBoy]

I loved the music, felt the music really added some amazing scenes.

[@KongFuzii]

ive been replaying ekko vs jinx nonstop.

[@bruceh9780]

I agree, I don't get Daniel's hate for the music, it was one of the best elements of the show.

[@KongFuzii]

@@bruceh9780 it worked for me but i get why some people didnt like it.

[@Nightley4]

Regarding the trailer montage feeling with these songs, if i remember correctly, this studio was/is making cinematics for LoL. Even with their effort of transitioning to this new format old habits die hard, i guess =) Loved the OST, though, both original score and songs (which were written for the show, i believe?). And ending it with Sting? Ugh, that is cheating for me, loved his music since childhood.

[@TheDiabeticGameMaster]

oh yeah. that song choice was incredible. I'm still thinking about it, days later "what could have been". oooh, I get shivers every time.

[@lockekappa500]

Yeah I think it was mostly just how well the sound design and instrumental music choices helped a lot of the scenes land, that when something is shoe horned in, even a bit, its very noticable. Also I feel these scenes are less jarring during subsequent viewing.

[@julio1148]

My interpretation is that Silco did love Jinx unconditionally as his adoptive daughter

[@Guru630]

they mix in 2D animation for most of the effects and background stuff, that makes the clay-like animations easier to look at

[@danc1513]

It's not even just that. The character models are just spectacular on their own. Pause the show on any frame and it looks like a digital painting with visible brush strokes. It's gorgeous. - Disclaimer: I'm an animator and love this stuff.

[@josiahpeterson1694]

I thought this was the best show I've ever seen, and my favorite series ever. And personally, I thought the music was fantastic. Especially the final song during the final moments of the show. It was extremely emotional. The story of Jinx just becomes more heart wrenching every time I watch it. I also think Silco was completely sincere at the end. Silco really was a fantastic father figure. I didn't think he was being manipulative. When he talks to Jayce, you can clearly see his frustration and confliction with what Jayce says about needing Jinx. Silco's character is one of the best written characters I've ever seen.

[@nicholas4727]

Best show you've ever seen? Damn you need to watch more tv.

[@josiahpeterson1694]

@@nicholas4727 I've seen plenty

[@nicholas4727]

@@josiahpeterson1694 lol. I was just kidding.

[@curtissmith4628]

Is there a dedicated way to do spoilers? Until then: Spoilers I'm fairly confident that Silco was being honest at the end to jinx. The whole speech at the fountain earlier was about how he could obtain everything he ever wanted, if he could just give up jinx. But he finally understood why vander, who he couldn't understand in act 1, was willing to make peace and unwilling to fight for the cause. "Is there anything so undoing as a daughter" meaning that both of them had their dreams of Zaun undone by having a daughter who they cared more about then that dream. Also, from the perspectives and lighting at the end, I'm pretty sure jinx did actually blow up the council, which is even more tragic because just like in the end of act 1, she tries her best but ruins everything. Silco almost achieved his goal, (the council didn't appear to care about jinx it was just Jayce) But she ruined it at the last possible second and doomed any chance of there being peace in the foreseeable future.

[@user-ee8fo6hp4v]

also its important to mention that jayce is NOT A GOOD GUY BY THE END. even before jinx 9/11'd the shit out of him his solution for peace was just making it so he himself doesnt have to deal with zaun and not feel bad about it while letting zaun cannibalize itself. which shows his naivete and egoism

[@spectreharlequin]

I'm not sure I agree. I think in the end Jayce wanted peace because he didn't want to be the butcher that slaughters Zaun with Hextech weapons. He pretty much tells Silco that.

[@user-ee8fo6hp4v]

@@spectreharlequin yeah, but the 2 options he had in his mind is let a psycho control zaun (which is the way that it is as a direct result of piltover's exploitation and police brutality) or masacarre the people of zaun. he didnt even consider trying to see what's a reasonable thing to do like, idk, using some of that hextech to make zaun habitable so kids dont grow up to work for people like silco? he went for the easy solution that requires the least out of him.

[@spectreharlequin]

@@user-ee8fo6hp4v I see your point of view. Jayce didn't go for the greatest good, which is what you are saying. But I guess my cynicism is such that I find it somewhat admirable that he didn't want to fight a war that he knew he would win.

[@user-ee8fo6hp4v]

@@spectreharlequin kind of. but to me it seems more selfish then admirable. he saw kids being worked to death in a factory and what he took away from it is "damn i'd suck if i have to kill kids and not just poor ppl"

[@bdubsscrubs1976]

If Brandon Sanderson ever agrees to a Stormlight Archive adaptation, it needs to be animated and the people that did Arcane need to do it. Incredible animation. Best series of the year. So much better than WOT on Amazon.

[@creggieb]

I always thought the animation style and aesthetic was that of an oil painting rather than clay dolls. Cant wait for season 2

[@cutrush07]

This! This is the style, format and team that need to bring Mistborn to the screen!

[@LegionZGaming]

in contrary i love how they added the music to bring out the emotion in such a creative way combining with the beautiful arts.

[@thebigshep]

I'm definitely on the "keep your modern music tf outta my fantasy" camp, especially Imagine Dragons lol, but even I gotta admit that sequence on the bridge in episode 7 between Echo and Jinx went hard

[@DoctorWhoBlue]

The final track with Sting was also perfect imo

[@chrislee3601]

I loved the Guns For Hire scene

[@DarthDookieMan]

I know this doesn’t exactly fit the modern pop music that is the source of your criticism, the ending song to episode 2 “Our Love” is a fucking banger.

[@thebigshep]

@@DoctorWhoBlue just finished the series last night, and yeah I agree

[@SultanFilm]

It's Riot, if it didn't have the music that way. People would be very mad. It's part of the Riot aesthetic that is now core for them.

[@lynxaway]

When you mentioned cait and vi wrt your moms I teared up a little omg… thank you for sharing that‚ that’s so sweet! 😭

[@Aleolex]

The first episode actually establishes the music choices as being part of the world. 'Welcome to the playground' is being played from the jukebox of The Last Drop. I personally loved the music choices, they were only really played to punctuate the emotional reality of scenes and didnt distract from them at all.

[@QBG]

After my first watch of the series, I completely agreed with your point about the music. I'm not a pop fan, and I felt like the songs undercut the emotional tension of key scenes and clashed with the steampunk vibe of the atmosphere. After my third watch of the series, my brain has now learned to associate those songs with those emotional moments and I can't help but like them for it. Especially "Goodbye", "Guns for Hire" and "When Everything Went Wrong".

[@reginaldforthright805]

I would have preferred a soundtrack consisting entirely of 1980s rap. That would have set the proper tone, I feel.

[@IAmShniff]

I loved Arcane so much.

[@sofiamachado5840]

Oh i loved the music (on the chapters and the intro, never skiped it) it helped on the inmersion for me, but i guess that is subjectiv as you said 😊

[@charles3840]

This was the first time I rewatched a show for a second time inside three weeks since I was 8.

[@rhea6011]

i 100% agree with you!! my biggest criticism on season 1 is the music choices! they just don’t feel like it matches the tone of the show, half of them sound like they belong in a d-tier cw show not a scifi fantasy show!! the imagine dragons theme is the worst!! really hope they change this in season 2 and either have better songs that match the tone of the scenes or just completely remove them and put a score that matches the tone instead! besides this is a perfect show!

[@SultanFilm]

It's not going to change. imagine dragons are major fans of the games, and have preformed for their events all the time. It is part of the Riot experience in terms of music that they have been doing for years for their games, events, marketing. The joke with Riot is that they are really a music and animation company with a game side hustle.

[@Lem1697]

I do believe Silco really loved Jinx. Honestly one of the best villains in recent memory

[@brendon1191]

Thanks for the coverage

[@SuperDoctor9]

Arcane hooked me almost immediately and left me hungry for more. Bring on season 2, I can't wait!

[@vampiricalchemist]

Damn, for me it was the music portions that pushed it from 9.5 to 10.

[@Tomicida.]

If you haven't, you should check out "Get Jinxed", it's a music video that was released when Jinx came out as a playable character back in 2013.

[@chasegrange1288]

Or really any of the League of Legends music videos. A League of Legends show without music and music videos would be missing a key aspect of the characters and the work they are from.

[@crimsonraen]

Hey Daniel, thanks so much for the video! I just finished the series today myself, and wow! Not knowing anything about the game, they still knocked this out of the park. Also, the missile going at the council after them voting for peace, daaaaaaaang! That hits HARD.

[@iuric.528]

The symbolism of Viktor running with his mutated metalic leg was also pretty good, outrunning the boat at the background, a good call back to that part on his childhood with the toy boat. Also a good forshadowing to his future projects.

[@Elijah_Gillard]

(Haven’t finished watching the vid) I love the music choices for this show, I actually find it’s one of my favourite parts. And I listened to the intro song every time, but I just like ID so that’s fair

[@burnsboy101]

I’m starved for arcane videos 😂 watching every one of them

[@teradul2480]

Love to see the show getting the visibility it deserves!

[@casualnerd8139]

Arcane did such a great job with building an immersive world. Damn, I loved it! Music didn't bother me that much, only one time I was put off by it. And the fact, that they build an emotionally hitting story with the rather vague backgrounds of LoL is impressive to me.

[@thebigshep]

This gave me hope for a high-budget animated Transmetropolitan adaptation. I don't think this studio's style would be right for it, but Alberto Mielgo would be nothing short of perfect as an art director. I've been saying this since I read it and watched "The Witness" episode of Love, Death, and Robots

[@JackJacko87]

Animated adaptations have been going from strength to strength recently. I really hope they can come to be viewed as a powerful and respectable means for translating fantasy and sci-fi to the visual medium. The stylization and dynamism, and frankly the unique visual code inherent to animation, all allow for scenes and stories that are otherwise simply unfilmable with real actors, no matter how much CGI you throw at the problem.

[@shsnwksybdeb]

other than the imagine dragon song in the middel of the show, all the other songs i think were placed pretty well

[@Orthos4]

My personal favourite is "Guns for Hire" at the end of episode 6. Fits perfectly with the tone of the scene, and the music does not interrupt any action that we would otherwise miss.

[@syressx9098]

Imagine dragons too, wdym?

[@eagamezz]

I'd argue we do know the answer to your question about Silco. One of the best scenes is him talking to the statue Vander confessing that he now understands why Vander "gave up" on their vision because there is "nothing as undoing as a daughter".

[@collecter343]

Nice job with the music point, very fair.

[@kaleidoscope6043]

hard disagree on the music segments, loved them and thought they really fit the overall vibe

[@thomasroberts7073]

Uhhhh... Spoilers below... Jinx did blow up the council, didn't she?

[@obemx7094]

I was wondering the same. I thought it was clear, but maybe I am a blind man

[@TheDiabeticGameMaster]

Nah, she did. Daniel's just a little bit of a dingaling

[@troikas3353]

She did. Though I expect the actual death toll from it will be limited. I would be surprised if Mel died, Jayce and Viktor are most probably safe. The rest though... man If Vi's sister just killed Caitlyn's mother, I have bad feelings for what that will entail for my current favorite Buff Boi and her cupcake.

[@TheTimeshadows]

Yes, and, I do think that Silco really did love and identify with Jinx -- that what you term manipulation is constantly foiled by the Powder within Jinx actually loving him. By the end, Silco, cared more about Jinx than he needed to crush Ender (or whatever their father figure guy's name was).

[@HorrorGeek9]

I watch a lot of your videos and I did not know you had moms, also they sound awesome. Great video Daniel.

[@tacticalpasta6691]

I honestly love how emotionally mature this show is and how it respects the viewer's intelligence without being cryptic. Most other shows just feel dumb and inauthentic.

[@Gammagreen]

All I can think about is how this, Arcane animation style, would make such an awesome wheel of time adaptation instead of the Amazon off-brand adaptation we got.

[@timsasnauskas9993]

This is 100% how they should do the Stormlight Archives.

[@violetbliss4399]

I was thinking that but for Malazan, too. But ye I think any character-driven fantasy you could really use this format, although I suspect the budget on something like this must be really high given the quality. It's just so good at serving up scenes for characters to interact.

[@iAmxCept]

As a Jinx main/simp for years now with at least 1000 games on the champ, getting a Jinx origin story sold me real quick. I just have to say this show show made me fall in love with her even more so than ever before. I went into the show with no expectations at all but it was just amazing.

[@Ellthom]

I 100% agree with Daniel about the music choice on the show. But aside from that I loved it and thought it was great. The art style and overall heart and emotion in the show was great. It may also be my favourite animated show since Avatar.

[@mrpedjap]

It's a breath of fresh air for me, I understand your frustration with the soundtrack, but it steel works for me. I woul personally use death/trash or whichever metal riffs 🤣🤘

[@nicholas4727]

It was awful. Really broke the immersion in the story for me, really my only complaint with the series.

[@letmesleepinpeace7052]

You can see in Silocos office he has a coffee cup and ash tray made by Jinx. In the end with the rocket it had a scar on one of its eye inspired by Silco. You can also see during the final scene Vi kept telling Jinx to remember her dead family but to Jinx it was just tramutazation of the dead haunting her. Silco flips out and tell Jinx not to listen to Vi because he knew she couldn't handle it. This was my interpretation at least that Silco did truly care for Jinx. Remember that speech about loyalty. He holds true to it even after getting betrayed by Vander.

[@lilysdong1457]

Silco did honestly care for Jinx that was pretty clear when he found her dying and he cared more for her than the gemstone.

[@tajwashere]

Your point about characters being "in danger" is unfortunately completely untrue, at least for those from the game itself. The chances of them killing off playable characters is next to none. This could be a blessing and a curse depending if they captilize on the subversion of these expectation tho, which would be pretty cool to see. Regardless, incredible show. PS. Stop it.

[@chrisblackburn6567]

I had the same thought and I think you are right to an extent, just because these characters aren't at the point to where they are fully developed into their in game forms yet so they can be killed off. But I think it would be cool once those arcs are complete (i.e. Caitlin becoming Sheriff, Victor fully augmenting himself) if riot takes some risks and starts killing some of them off.

[@sofiav7071]

@@chrisblackburn6567 I feel like they won't because even in fights you can tell they don't want to show a any champion as being "stronger" than another (for example jinx vs ekko was pretty equal), I guess they don't want the show to influence the players to pick one champion over the other due to their strenght portrayal in the game since they are all meant to be the same, so one dying would be out of the question since it might make them look weak

[@chrisblackburn6567]

@@sofiav7071 I think you are probably right, but my point was more that it would be a cool and risky step for them to take that might up the stakes a bit later on, but they most likely will not take the show there

[@SolitaryLark]

Wow I loved the music inclusion hard disagree with you there.

[@georgevelis4651]

I loved all the cold opens that gave us a look into defining moments in each character's childhood

[@yumyumhungry]

The exception for the music was the ekko jinx bridge scene. I thought that little music video where the whole style changed conveyed so much more than any standard action sequence could in a 1:45 clip. You have the emotion of ekko and jinx reinacting their childhood play with the stakes of actual trying to kill each other. Ekko realizing powder's still in there. Ekko foreshadowing and character development showing him timing the whole thing out and learning from his mistakes. Absolutely brilliant.