Are Delivery Drivers The Worst? | Your Car Stories

[@dannyDC2]

Thanks for the shout out chaps. Alex thinks I’m Sean Bean but it’s all gravy haha

[@calj2405]

Top guy

[@GarryMcGovern]

Long time subscriber here Dan - top channel mate, always enjoy your vids!

[@anthonybelton-ford3124]

Hey Dan, where in video did you get a mention. Don't want to watch the episode

[@D4VE26]

Was a good impression dan

[@Fuzzarr]

@@anthonybelton-ford3124 head to 54 mins

[@kylosalvesen]

As a former delivery driver myself, I feel like I'm qualified to answer this. The answer is yes.

[@dommatthews8921]

I fully agree being a former dpd driver unfortunately.

[@Kuhrmys]

as an amazon driver. i also agree hahaha

[@PaulskiWood]

A small part of you changes when you get in those vans, ex yodel here and I agree, I've nearly been killed by one of my own 😂

[@marsdeimos4301]

I concur.

[@thomas316]

As a former parts delivery person I agree, absolutely did not care and treated vehicles as disposable. Even the police used to leave us alone. 🤔

[@Yeti_likes_cars]

Delivery driving is part of my job, and the worst drivers where I am (Cheltenham) are people in Chelsea tractors. Always on their phones, not indicating, running lights, passing cyclists on blind corners, never giving way on roundabouts and taking up multiple car parking spaces. I seriously have enough dash cam footage to start my own Channel 5 show!

[@youraveragejoe1]

While I was out on my ped the other day, caught a women on her phone at the lights. Cars moved off and she just sat there for about 5 seconds and still hadn’t moved, with her kid in the passenger seat too. I beeped and called her out on it, and she just gave that clueless face

[@Josh_Wright]

I am in Cheltenham too, the delivery drivers are atrocious. They have a tendency to park in the middle of the road, miles away from the house they're delivering too also I swear.

[@kings3803]

I am a delivery driver and use a people carrier and only drive in a couple of little villages and I always drive carefully as I am in the same villages everyday and respect the people that live there regardless of how busy i have been.

[@bethollie2836]

It’s 6 points & £200 fine for using a mobile phone. Love the pod, genuinely makes Mondays better for me knowing after work I can get home and listen to this whilst cooking dinner.

[@andrewwright.]

Also videoing from the driver seat is now illegal. Even if parked videoing police smashing there way into your car

[@thomas316]

£200 penalty is hardly much of a disincentives is it? 😂

[@TrevorT6]

Ay I also listen to it while cooking dinner lol

[@rhysjones5339]

Watch it on your phone while driving home and save time 🤣🤣🤣

[@bethollie2836]

@@thomas316 no I agree but 6 points should make them think twice, not only would they lose their job if they drive for a living but their insurance would go up a fair bit. And of course if caught doing it again they get banned from driving.

[@Grandpa_Grinch]

I've got a mate who works for Oridinance Survey if you want some mapping done...

[@kings3803]

They are proper experts at mapping. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@varadkadam6009]

"The amount of wood that goes in there" -Ethan Smale,2021

[@timothy.p6128]

didnt he say "the length of wood that's gonna go in there"

[@Stekarmange]

Ethans Male

[@MrSteveFurness-Lappin]

As a driver for a living (field engineer) it boils my blood seeing the amount of people on phones or looking down at their crouch while driving, only today I was queuing in traffic, the woman behind was just staring at her crouch (I assume phone) any way as I moved forward through the lights, she was still sat there oblivious to what must be 8 car lengths between me and her.. eventually she realized and proceeded to boot it through the now red light to catch up. Also I can confirm that mobile phone while driving is 6 points and £200.. It also doesn’t matter if you are stationary or in a car park, if you’re behind the wheel with the key, then you are “in a charge” of the vehicle.. as Ethan said cars now are fitted with handsfree, if it’s not you can get Bluetooth speakers for as little as £10.. £10 vs 6 points £200 & a potential accident.. I know which I’d prefer

[@rohitk7202]

I wish they start a section ....' i was on internet and i found this'.😄

[@davemorgan6772]

Already been done by clarkson

[@Danis8Pastry]

Yes!!!! And do it as part of a special episode, where they record it in Clarksons farmstore, with Clarkson as a guest.

[@jonathonnoyce8895]

Can you get mat Watson, from carwow, on for a podcast. Love the podcast keep it up

[@mv1509]

24HotGirls.com d

[@DashCamSerbia]

Please no...

[@lastukemperor1901]

Oh God no! He self-advertising to the point where I watch his vids when I'm bored af

[@sirskorge]

How many pop-up banners do we have to click? Do we have to visit the shitty website for offers? That channel got so much ad shit I can't ever watch on mobile, and rarely on the PC.

[@odfkjdhgovj]

Mat Watson is a fucking pleb. Get DannyDC2 on

[@minorearthmajorsky1476]

Ethan’s octavia vrs vs Alex’s m340d touring?

[@christianclark5795]

No competition not in same league

[@AngelWasTaken533]

I am always shocked that a grown man can make such a noise without being kicked in the balls.

[@SteenG3yL]

"grown man" I'm sorry but that made me giggle a bit

[@postfaceliftsaxo3728]

@@SteenG3yL "grown"

[@diztings9450]

(&)GROWN(&)

[@mistreku]

would love for these episodes to be longer! this is my fav podcast on YT, top work boys!

[@DjDolHaus86]

I used to work in a reclamation yard and can confirm that sleepers weigh between 30-90kg depending on size and type of wood, from the picture and the fact the front wheels weren't in the air I'd say they were probably on the lighter side. I did once spin an octavia on a slip road because I had a bunch of sleepers in the boot, tipped it in a bit to enthusiastically and bottomed out the suspension before doing a 180 and facing back the way I'd come.

[@itswillvidshorts771]

1:59 that actually looks bloody amazing! Absolutely love those style bumpers 😍😍😍

[@shaunwalford3534]

This is the best one we’ve had for a while, properly funny podcast this week! Loved it!

[@Benm32]

Do you think you’d be able to do a video on how to buy a car? Like how to fill out paperwork, what to look for when looking though the paperwork and how to inspect the Car itself?

[@tuffin2]

My finger was hovered over the skip forward button as Alex started to sing. I just do not need that in my life. Also, Ethan's car reviews are bang on. No bullshit, just the things you didn't think people needed to know.

[@ShanleH]

As a delivery driver I never used my phone whilst driving other than for maps. We get supplied with top of the range vans which have Bluetooth so the first thing you do when you jump in in the morning is set up the hands free. My parcel delivery skills... Not so good espescially around Christmas when we are told by our managers we are not allowed to bring anything back for any reason otherwise we miss out on bonus

[@WarriorRazor]

I rattle canned my Racing Beat front nose for my NA this past weekend as well (also silver) and it turned out great like yours, Jack. 2 cans of white self-etching primer, 3 cans of 3L Stone Silver paint from Paints4U, a very light sanding and a further can of 3L Stone Silver paint and finally 4 cans of clear coat and it's turned out brilliant. The colour match is spot on. Always a satisfying job when it turns out nicely.

[@adamthompson6669]

I love Alexis intro and singing a lot more variety and hitting the higher notes, can’t wait for the Christmas album and good to see the master mechanic back on (Gareth) great work again team thank you ❤️

[@TheMick26]

Good shoutout to Dan Silvester.👍 I've said for years, he has some of the best script writers in the business. Nice to see you put this North Yorkshire lad's channel in the spotlight so others can get in on the fun as well. Cheers.

[@davidcarguy]

I love the podcasts, keep it up guys!

[@jasonk7072]

‘I don’t understand why you’d take the risk...using a mobile whilst driving.’ My guess is because the chances of getting caught are so low. As long as you don’t speed through the cameras it seems you can do what you want, use your phone, don’t bother with an MoT, tailgate, sit in the outside lane etc.

[@hitforhelp]

Don't do more than one illegal thing at once.

[@carlcassidy185]

Jack's face when he realises the answer to "I think, therefore i am" isn't as black and white as he thought 🙌🏼😂 Gareth; "depends what you think is a car"; and that's the beauty of metaphysics and existentialism

[@NathanMatthews.]

So happy you uploaded! Didn't think you would this week

[@cannygrowabeard]

19:59 at 70mph, you’re covering 30+ metres every second, so even glancing at your phone for a couple of seconds, you’re missing so much ‘road’, significantly impairing your ability to react to anything that changes around you.

[@petersimpson5859]

6 points and £200 currently. I've been a delivery driver for 16 years and have never used my phone on the open road. Tried using it on private land out of curiosity and I can see no way anyone can safely control a vehicle this way, even conversation with a passenger is distracting. I've trained as a driving instructor and have 26 years of experience, mostly good. Waiting to have a conversation won't kill anyone.

[@lukascarda3572]

Hi guys from ČR, following the delivery driver incident I also had a quite stressful experience with a delivery driver. I was on my way home, in the middle of a clear day, and as I am comming up to a left turn 500 meters from my town a delivery driver in a Ford Transit comming from the opposite way was staring at his phone, forgot to turn and was heading straight onto me. I was doing probably 80-90 km/h at that time. I quickly turned away from him while cutting the grass on the right side of the turn and nearly ending in the ditch. Luckily the Transit driver woke up from his phone and turned on the last second. Had there been another car behind me, this would ended way worse. I know the day may be long for the delivery guys, but please, it is getting real dangerous real quick.

[@robdowns4523]

For me, a car is a car once you have all the bits to make it run and drive, whether it's working or not. So if you take out an engine it's a car, but if you sell that engine you're just left with a rolling chassis.

[@DashCamSerbia]

If I was a delivery driver (in a car or a scooter, not a van or a truck) I would just go full on Taxi (french cult movie), and try to get to the destination the fastest way possible, why playing musing from the Taxi (1998) - Opening Scene. :D

[@Me-zo8yc]

I love that film "Alright girls, don't forget your moustaches"

[@d3Rm0Nk]

"Start on two strokes you don't have to time them" is a dangerous thing to say to a thirteen year old ...

[@Jeckler]

At 32:00 someone handed Jack the largest shovel in the world and I can't believe the cookies lasted, untouched, until 35:00

[@derekc9198]

Yes, just look at the videos of Rufford Ford 😂

[@mv1509]

24HotGirls.com f

[@Josh_Wright]

Wonder how many Sprinters Mercedes gets back

[@martinhopkinson1133]

Rufford ford claimed my new phone because of a dpd lol

[@GAFloppa]

Wake up baby new Rufford Ford mention

[@LOGGATO]

A car is an assembly, therefore removing pieces of the assembly does not make it less "car", but it will make it less OF A car. So I think that you have a "car" up until the 2nd to last piece is removed... this is only if you are removing parts. But if you go the other way around - assembling a car - it doesn't become a car until the assembly is complete.

[@JGrindel]

Yesterday on the M4 at around 8:30 pm, a driver passed me in lane 2 which he stayed in despite no one being in lane 1 for miles ahead, but what annoyed me even more was that he was watching a video while driving... his phone which was mounted in the middle of the windscreen and being dark it was easy to see what he was doing - But I have seen so many drivers on their phones. I agree with Alex, being caught on your phone while driving should be an immediate ban!!!!

[@MotoTard910]

I drive for Amazon and can say our drops have sky rocketed since March last year and we are in the middle of a battle with them to lower the amount we are expected to do in a day. Every driver I know doesn’t wear there seat belt or even turn the engine off at stops because we simply don’t have time. Hoping we get a victory soon so everyone can drive slower and actually take breaks. The bbc did a programme about this a couple weeks ago. We are not bad drivers just over worked and exhausted 🙃

[@wesleymarx584]

Alex: *Started singing* Me: *skips 5 seconds*

[@Kuchenblech_Mafioso]

Five seconds back I hope so you can hear it again

[@EJayNine]

Also thanks for recommending Juicebox Jack, one of my favorite channels now.

[@will-qc8di]

Going on from your heap of sand analogy, I think once a rolling shell has made its maiden voyage by running and driving it is classed a car from then on - even if it does not drive in the future.

[@TheSpectre223]

I saw a close one with a delivery driver recently actually. 4-way junction out onto the main road, big Sprinter style Amazon delivery van waiting to pull out, Transit van approaching from the right (at a decent pace mind but shouldn't have mattered, the sightlines are all the way up the hill there). Amazon guy just pulls out in front of it and the Transit does like 100ft of smoking 11s trying to stop in time, somehow makes it round the back of them without colliding. Bet he was puckered in there.

[@adrianbowen9357]

As far as sunroofs, we've had Nissan X-Trails and I'm pretty sure they have some of the biggest single-piece sunroofs I've come across. Not the new ones, the T30 and T31 models. The sunroofs are basically a metre long and most of the width of the roof. They are so big that you can stand in the back seat and have half your body out of the car. So awesome as a kid or man child :)

[@1StoopidStuff1]

If you guys ever go back to doing guests, I would love to hear Mat Watson from carwow. Him or an interview with Scott and Ryan from Dark side developments about tuning 🤙🏻 Good pod as always gents

[@dunnes111]

Times must be hard, Alex has lost a sock and can't afford to replace them... Love the channel guy, keep it up!!

[@curtthemk2kid235]

lol why did Alex only have one sock on! haha

[@darrenhawkes598]

Giraffe chasing & cow tipping? This show gets better & better, best one yet guys, more like this please!

[@AndyB365]

As far as I'm aware vRS when it was introduced on the Mk1 Octavia was actually only RS. They're registered as Octavia RS turbos. The 'v' (lowercase) represents the chevron above the Š in Škoda when written properly. Recently however Škoda has decided the 'v' now represents 'victory'. The RS of course does stand for Rally Sport and Škoda did take the Octavia Mk1 rallying, even making a limited run of 100 'WRC edition' cars, with the livery and white rims, to be sold to the general public.

[@glenn20l]

Good on you guys for the shoutout for Danny dc2, sound guy and like you say doesn’t do it for the clout. Just enjoys his cars and driving well worth a sub and watch his content 👍🏼

[@TheSpectre223]

Alex's water bottle is so big that he was running late filling it before the show and didn't have time to put both socks on. It's a hard life being a gym owner ;)

[@hitforhelp]

I bet he's just lost all his socks in the move.

[@Iceytruth]

It looks massive with Alex holding it but it's an optical illusion. It's actually just a 500ml bottle.

[@dannywhite132]

The other day a delivery drive dropped my package off, and then gave me a second one and said "can you take that one down the road for me" and just jumped in his van and drove off before i could even say no....

[@richardgr3gg]

I remember being in Turkey with my mate and we hired a car (all under his name...but you know the game haha) on the day of return the car needed to be back for 9pm. Also on that day we traveled around 400 miles away from our Hotel for the day, all was well but we soon realised we may be late back. No wanting to pay another day we juggled high speeds, avoiding traffic and fuel management as I should point out my friend is a stickler for not giving them some extra fuel. By the way its cheap in Turkey we actually stopped to put around £3 in just to make it back to the hotel. As it turned out they where late to pickup the car as the guy coming ironically ran out of fuel...However as we where talking to the hotel staff in reception, we asked about the overhead gantree's that occasionally flashed at times randomly on both sides. At the time we didnt think much of it. The hotel concierge told us though that they are speed cameras, needless to say a moment of haha for me I'm not on the documents, but also dread for my friend. His actual response was I'm never coming back here, and to this day he has stood to that word. I suspect he is on Turkey's most wanted with the record of the most speeding tickets he has, but has never received any fallout from this.

[@cvwright]

If there is forward a backward propulsion, it can steer, it can stop, there is somewhere to sit and a cage to keep you away from the elements, it’s a car. As long as all are present it’s a car, regardless of condition.

[@rumenmetodiev2867]

You are one of the funniest think to listen while working, And also very amazed that Gareth have came to my home country Bulgaria

[@DelSolTypeR1987]

Been following Danny DC2 for a long time now. He has awesome content. Love his Nurburg trip clips 👌🏻

[@aladeengbtv2186]

I think I read somewhere that sunroofs, at least those places that used to be able to shove an after market sunroof on any car at the time, weakened the structural integrity of the car whereas pano roofs would probably still maintain it more so? Maybe it has something to do with that

[@AR1G3]

Hey guys, just want to add something. If you find the speed traps in france difficult to spot you're not looking at the road ahead ;) Fixed speed traps are indicated with HUUUUGE signs warning you, and it's actually french law that every speed trap should be announced maximum 1km before where its located. At least that's what a french person told me. And it's true, the traps are always withing 1km after the sign that warns you.

[@micheltebraake7915]

Alex, where is your Toyota MR2 that you would get ready for race, then you can race Dan Silverster in his MR2 (he does quite well in the MR2 race series). We love to see this fight!

[@aye3678]

Another great episode! This was fun to listen too. Cheers lads!

[@laurencepiccolo8420]

When Jack said "Google Base Maps" my Google assistant opened maps for me

[@davemorris9595]

Always look forward to these podcast videos 🤣🤣🤣

[@Barefoot_Joe]

"recording in Mexico" nice 1320 reference xD

[@markwright3161]

I think I've overthought the sand thing. You will distort the heap each time you remove a grain, and if you always take off the top you will eventually flatten the heap until it's no longer a heap but say 1000 grains spread across a table. At some point in between you will squash the heap when removing a grain to where it will no longer be a heap, say when the height falls below 50% of it's diameter/average diameter at its base while also being below a boundary between an inconceivable number of grains and a somewhat conceivable number of grains, all within context. A heap of sand in a quarry would need to be vastly larger than sand heaped on a teaspoon. Basically I think there is a point where removing a single grain of sand is the defining moment when the heap is no longer a heap, but more dependant on when the person removing the grains squashes the heap, and if you have several people watching they will each have a different grain in mind that made that difference from heap to not a heap.

[@Revobushwoky]

My IS200's sunroof is decent, doesn't leak into the interior but the metal holding the glass is crispier than Jack's MX5 lol

[@dimitrihadzitomov]

I see Jack has continued his quest to look like a cross between Bieber and a member of the Red Hot Chili Peppers. Love the pod though!

[@DiannaDeepWhite]

RS means “Road Sailing” according to Honda back in the late ‘70s with their Civic 1200 RS

[@markwright3161]

If you were in the Volkswagen factory, the car becomes a car as soon as an order is placed on the first part to join the assembly line, I think it's the floor pan that they then weld the sides and firewall to, because that's when they apply the tags to track the progress of certain cars around the factory in order to do all the just in time ordering of parts for the rest of assembly. For me it's the shell. It doesn't need to have doors, windows, or subframes for engine etc for me to call it a car. If there's a recognisable outline from at least 2 angles of the car it is to become It's a car to me. By that point it is committed to becoming a car and not a shelving unit or something in my opinion. A floor pan by itself is a part to be added to a car, you can replace a full floor pan in a completed car, but the shell is the point where 3 or more substantial panels have been joined to resemble the car. For body-on-frame cars it's a bit more difficult. The shell isn't itself a car in that case in my opinion, it needs a chassis to have suspension, wheels, engine, etc to be added to make it a car, but you can also have a rolling chassis that is fully kitted out with drivetrain components that makes that a car without a body shell mounted. If it's unibody, it needs to look like the body of the car it's to become, if it's body-on-frame then frame/chassis + body shell or frame/chassis + drivetrain components, 'rolling chassis'.

[@GarryMcGovern]

Good lad Danny from DC2 - top bloke and a great channel.

[@ghrenu]

Zoothrottle 😂😂 how did that joke go under the radar 😂

[@FoxInta]

In regards to touching your phone while driving, here in New Zealand the law is that you are allowed to use your phone briefly and infrequently, so you can answer calls, skip song tracks, etc. I wonder if something similar would be in place for your country?

[@rowanhooper8722]

Thank you so much guys for putting my question in the podcast

[@markwright3161]

If it's cars in a car park then 3-5 cars is a few, 6-11 is several, 12-21 is a good few, 21-35/45 is a brave ween, although it doesn't really have much of a upper limit until the car park is packed. Norn Iron (Northern Ireland) lingo is probably a bit different to England. You see 30 cars in a 90 space car park 'There's a brave ween o' motors in thon car park'. :)

[@adamqurabi65]

I really like the channel and the podcasts keep up the good word guys!

[@Nahojishere]

Was behind a UPS van yesterday, the speed limit was 70 kph but he was pendling between 50 and 60 and swaying all over the road, almost into the oncomming traffic :/

[@tomcassidy9617]

Alex is drinking from a normal sized bottle at 50:10 😂

[@boblog131]

i do about 100 miles a day for work in rural norfok, delivery drivers are the worst they hoon about the backroads Park where ever they want even if they block the road. however most of them are self employed and have awful working conditions and i can imagine fairly busy at the moment

[@kierenmooney8686]

My favourite podcast is back

[@kierenmooney8686]

@Do One what u on about

[@isaacdenwood4595]

Another really good podcast boys! good to see dannydc2 got a shout out, been a viewer of his channel for years

[@darrenwilson8042]

Fit a Webasto vinyl roof - full peel back, fresh air and degrades nicely over the years to allow some damp interiors in ageing cars

[@adamsher86]

There are different kinds of delivery drivers. The ones you're referring to, the likes of DPD, Yodel, Amazon, Hermes etc are all multi-drop drivers and they have to deliver x amount of parcels a day within a certain time frame and are constantly against the clock, hence rushing around, plus for the majority, the vans are not their own. Others (where I fall in) are Same Day owner drivers, where we buy and run our own van and collect from point A delivering to point B whether local or distance across the country. We all get tarnished with the same brush which to be honest isnt right and hope this clears it up a little...

[@TheMrbazooka]

Just Getting Used To You Guys Donning Socks, And Then Alex Decides One Sock Is Enough!

[@Revobushwoky]

A car is a car when it's running and driving. Mall grips for a steering wheel, halfords bucket for a seat etc. Still a car. If it's not running it's a shell, rolling shell, or complete shell (without engine).

[@derrankyle1888]

The vRS in Skoda stands for ‘Victory Racing Sport.’

[@DashCamSerbia]

Gareth saying "Game game game..." (which sounded a bit like gaygaygay) And then Ethan said "Finish him off" LOL!!!! xDDDDDDD

[@AlexTrain5249]

I never knew there was a shortage of sunroof-equipped cars. Because in the USA there’s still a ton of new cars that have the option for, or already have sunroofs as standard. It’s illegal to sleep in a car unless it’s in a campground in the USA. It’s called vagrancy.

[@letstorquecars92]

Yay!! Back at it boys!!

[@zector0]

Yes Alex, 12*50 is most definitely 300. Your brains are so strong. So strong Infact that I'll offer you the best deal you will ever get for Phil, 48 twenties. Hol out yar haaaaand.

[@supergngsta1]

Victory Racing Sport The vRS in Skoda stands for 'Victory Racing Sport. ... Performance models as part of the Skoda family date back to the Popular Sport, which was launched in the 1930s.

[@6ettinold]

I've reported a few can drivers to their bosses. Two were sacked the same day, one of them a week before Christmas - he narrowly missed wiping out a school bus whilst on his phone. Another guy who gave me the finger when I shouted at him to get off his phone, spent 3 days on a re-training course. I'd urge anyone to get reg.no. and company names if possible. It isn't grassing up - some of these drivers do 50k+ miles a year.

[@BenBenvngaming]

Mobile Phone usage is 6 Points £200 fine which lands provisional drivers with an instant license revoke requiring a retest :)

[@samcrawford9503]

I help out as a temp courier driver for large goods and see it alot not just delivery drivers its all types of road users it really annoys me, i don't use mine i stop to update the crew and maps, if i can do it driving a massive van around the country everyone else can. Tempted to fit dash cams just for capturing it all as lately in a 30 minute drive sees at least 5 people on the phone.

[@Superradial]

Defo agree, bring back the old fashioned sunroof!

[@anilkumarbr]

Please Bring Back 2 Guys 1 Car!!! Please.

[@bradleyharrisYT]

Woah... I got fined 90 Euros in when driving in France in 2018. Got caught doing 93 in a 70kph just after the limit went down from 130kph... Couldn't believe it when the letter came through the post.

[@michaelWilson-sk6nk]

hey guys, love the podcast!!! The vRS in Skoda stands for ‘Victory Racing Sport.’ However, Skoda uses vRS in the UK and just RS elsewhere. keep up the great content :)

[@TomRxtroWav397]

Well, its DPD deilvery. I wasn't pay attention mirror enough and small bumped from leaving parking bay. DPD parked completely blocked road. The company didn't call me to sorted insurance 😳

[@blondeboi]

Try check out the bearded explorer boys you should see some of the cars that he finds abandoned in the UK! It's Incredible

[@TheVintageApplianceEmporium]

Highlight of the video: Gareth advising young children to start taking apart REALLY dangerous power tools! Love him XD

[@aussieausdeutschland4245]

DPD especially... I should know, I was one that delivered around the Gießen area.

[@MichalZalecki]

Once a car, always a car. No matter what part you remove. Before first assembly, its just parts.

[@robertkirkham1772]

Mk 2 Renault Laguna 1.9 or 2.0dci estate Comfortable, not too slow, great on fuel and climate control etc plus loads of room. Great cheap road trip car