Are friends electric? (Defender)

[@Specky12]

And the best thing we can do for the environment, is stop buying new stuff and keep the old stuff going that we already have. A bit like what Mike (and many of us) is doing. The cost to the environment to build one of these environmentally friendly cars is horrific.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

My thoughts exactly! I did read, many years ago, that a regular car takes 3 times the energy to make it than it will use in its lifetime. I wonder if anyone has calculated the energy to make an EV start to finish?

[@trevorfoster915]

Well keeping old cars going is all fine and dandy but how will the multi national companies and the super rich make money out of that? @@BritannicaRestorations

[@terryatkinson899]

The other thing is recycling a lekky car is expensive as the batteries are difficult to recycle and the last user is stuck with the bill unlike a petrol car where they at least give you something for it as scrap.​@BritannicaRestorations

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Yeap - follow the money...

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I think I mentioned this in a video a few years ago that I think you will have to pay to have your EV scrapped due to the complexity of removing a battery safely for recycling

[@jamesneeson5692]

A recent road test done in Australia, from melb to Sydney with 2 new BMW 7 series....electric version vs the petrol version. The electric version took 2hrs longer to get there, due to having to re-charge and cost A$132 in charge costs. The petrol version cost A$128 in petrol. Surprisingly, this made it to the mainstream news.

[@glennharvey5100]

yep saw that and shared it

[@AapVanDieKaap]

I thought it would be even worse to be honest. Those batteries and chargers must be so dangerous...

[@davelock3166]

Great video, Mike. The Brit gov are trying to get us to buy EV's, while they drive around in Range Rovers!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Very true! Don't see many EV's in Davos this week...

[@locodriver601]

Here in the UK they run diesel generators to keep the wind turbines warm in cold weather. You could not make it up.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

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[@u2kjib4cjkqn]

They need electric just start them propellers don’t spin by there self

[@locodriver601]

When there is calm conditions no wind and freezing cold the generators keep them warm. On some days here in the UK less than 10% of power generated is wind and solar.@@u2kjib4cjkqn

[@LincolnPegg]

Good on you Mike, I had my PayPal account frozen for donating to the Canadian protests. The governments are making money out of this net zero rubbish.

[@colinrees6206]

Not to mention Mike if you attempted to tow with the ev defender the capacity of the battery greatly reduces under load

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Not unless you tow a trailer full of batteries...

[@marionspencer3141]

Thank you Mike for speaking up for the farmers. The policy of flowers not flour over here is getting ridiculous, when we need food security. Well managed farms are already full of wild flora and fauna but all this lipservice to the green economy is forcing us all to the wall.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Indeed! I think Clarkson's Farm, despite the malarkey and humour, pointed out the problems of farmers have with the farming industry. I am 100% behind framers, and coming from North Yorkshire, cutting my teeth fixing tractors etc, I know farmers are not in it for the money!

[@johnnyknap]

Worth watching Clarksons mate and neighbour Harry’s Farm you tube video on recent bad harvests and reduced percentage of land being farmed for food in the UK. Think we’ll all be Digging up our gardens soon! Makes more sense financially for farmers to grow flowers and bird seed both of which are important but not if we can’t feed ourselves first.@@BritannicaRestorations

[@owensteele1645]

For a second I thought you posted a video for a rather lengthy 1970s Gary Numan tune. Very interesting and insightful video. Thanks, stay safe.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@Ken-zx4vp]

I aslo stand with the truckers and farmers from Scotland.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Me too !

[@SSSwilliams]

Great video, totally agree. Ev is great for milk floats and that's it. Stay safe Mike ❤️

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Thanks! You too!

[@MrRobmellor]

HI Mike. I recon that we will all end up driving steam cars, the only problem to solve is how we raise the steam. It will not be by an open fire but by a heat fuel cell which will be lighter than battery's or oil. So get your thinking cap on and solve it quick before we all have to live back in a caves. OH and dont worry about a flat battery as you can always drag a diesel generator around and static charge your motor at the side of the road. I like to ramble while I have a pint in my hand. I have drunk two cans of Guinness while replaying your video. Thanks for your thoughts Mike. Good luck, Yorkshire Rob.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Thanks Rob ! Top bloke!

[@mikeholgate9930]

Great name Mike by the way. Im in the UK and at the time of the Canadian truckers i bought some Canadian flags for my car windows. Great to hear you are awake to whats going on my friend. I came across you because im currently looking at buying a 2006 LH drive Landrover Defender county 110. Its had one owner from new. Spent its life in France until recently. No corrosion, totally unmodified and in superb condition. Just going through its MOT at a landrover garage. 102000 miles. Its a private sale from an aquaintance. Keep up the fabulous work you do and keep smiling. Mike Ps. Its easier to turn the defender into a Mad Max vehicle than the electric crap plus it will be much more usable hiding in the mountains lol.

[@nickboylen6873]

I thought you were going to say you’d make an electric Defender “when hell freezes over, not just Alberta”😉. My 109 with Tdi and standard rear tank with twin front tanks can do 1600 miles at its typical 27mpg, and the heat exchanger allows it to run on vegoil. Makes the EV scam look ridiculous! Great video, Mike.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Well, Alberta is frozen over, so maybe next week? Lol!

[@rsage_]

Couldn't agree more, Mike. Electric vehicles have a place and in many ways makes sense. For a Defender, it's more of a pet project than anything to make economical sense. As for the farmers in Europe, I hope they get justice. They're the backbone of civilization. All around the world, despite the efforts toward the contrary by respective governments, people are finally taking notice and making an effort to stand against what clearly seems to be tyranny. From the farmers in Europe, to Brexit, to Argentina's first libertarian president, to Texas taking a stand against the Feds' lack of responsibility toward borders. I hope it's not too late to allow reason and common sense to take over once again.

[@bigm383]

Similar situation in Australia. A couple of blokes recently drove small BMWs from Sydney to Melbourne, one electric, one petrol. The petrol car needed one petrol stop which took eight minutes. The electric needed multiple recharging which took over two hours and cost seventeen bucks more than the petrol version. Oh, and the company that makes and services the public chargers has pulled out of Australia. Plus the first electric cement mixer in Australia caught fire in its first week and took days to extinguish. Not a lot going for them here!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Yes, I saw the cement mixer - did you see the London bus on fire last week? I forgot to add to the video that if £24,000 would get you 115,000 miles, you would have to charge the EV 1,150 times to do the same distance And didn't I read that the Nullarbor Plain highway had diesel EV chargers?

[@bigm383]

@@BritannicaRestorations Yes, the London bus was spectacular. Two electric bicycle shops went up in smoke in Sydney in the last few weeks. Plenty of charging stations run on big diesel generators, with a smattering of solar panels to make them look green. That hundred mile range is appalling.

[@peterpontikos3786]

thank god you are not takin that 'electric jesus coolaid'!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Lol! Nope - I have not even sat in an EV never mind driven one - not interested

[@barbellbell]

am pleased you feel like that about electric .the world is very corrupt.long live the diesel vehicles.

[@neptuneblood6916]

Turkey's voting for Christmas

[@markmulvaney5497]

my first though about this vid was oh here we go electric rubbish, but i was pleasantly surprised, old saying the truth will out you hit the nail on the head mike, well done.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Thanks!

[@auto-funatics7147]

100% agree. Thanks Mike

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Thank you!

[@mortenjensen2298]

Hey Mike No farmer demo in Denmark and we dont Even read about the ones in German, despite Skæring a border ?

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I did read that Denmark was joining in, but there is so little information - over here, it seems it is just another day in Europe

[@biffarocard6716]

excellent work mate. Correct about nobody in the UK giving a fuck about electric vehicles. On the down side I just sold my 2.7 discovery and bought Ford Kuga - still only 25mpg.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Rather like the king's new clothes...

[@alexformallyofchintzmotorsport]

Literally a fresh air tax on us

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I wonder if the mask wearing a few years ago, was a pre-cursor to get us used to a breathing mask, to tax us on our CO2 output? Lol!

[@stephenlyttleton9032]

I'm into contrarian investing. Therefore I'm rebuilding more diesel Defenders.

[@dave1secondago]

give me a stinky old diesel everytime lol

[@AnthonyTeasdale]

Before I got my Ninety as a daily driver. I had a Nissan Leaf. It was okay. Of course early electric car. But big range loss in the winter. The heater then failed and the bill to replace was £3,000-£4,000. and it's a well known issue. Newer EV's use better means of heating but still the cost of buying a modern EV is huge. The big issue is, yes you got fewer parts in a way. but each part is worth way way more. And if one goes wrong. you're looking at a big cost.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

A mate of mine had a 1st gen Leaf = $32,000 new. After 4 years it would only do 30km in winter - traded it in and got $9,000 for it. I forgot to add in the video: Hertz offloading 20,000 EV's due to unpopularity finance.yahoo.com/news/hertz-sells-off-20-000-180317496.html

[@richardtedeschi9290]

Thanks Mike you're great.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

You're welcome!

[@bleizbreizh6264]

Just to cheer you up I have just read that the EU are about to vote on banning repair of cars over 15 years old. It's mentioned in all the regional press here in Portugal. My newest car is 20 years old and still delivers over 70 mpg

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Yet another reason to leave the EU! Lol! Have you a link?

[@bobdufresne6294]

Well said Mike! Keep on keeping on!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Cheers!

[@michaeladams6724]

Brilliant assessment and very true conclusion

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Thanks!

[@dave1secondago]

about as much use as a chocolate fireguard mike

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Yeap!

[@billb3444]

My 109 is an EV. Extremely Volatile some of the time. It is a PV the rest of the time. Partially volatile. Having just replaced both starter and House batteries that’s me done. Incidentally one of the new batteries never made it past the bench pre installation charge. My confidence in batteries is now severely eroded. Back to the drawing board. Keep up the good fight.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Aye - my Yaris is on its second battery in 17 years..

[@prjroberts]

Have you seen the Edison motors setup in Canada? It's a smart solution for hybrid electric.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Interesting! (but looks expensive)

[@prjroberts]

@@BritannicaRestorations agree for now.. I'm seeing how they are starting to move this tech into old pickup trucks... I'm thinking this might be possible with a land rover one day. Possible collaboration (I dream)? Especially with the way the future of vehicles are going these days.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I do not know - in the LR there is not much space anyway, and getting a motor and engine in is going to be interesting. Limiting factor is the transmission/transfer case for the 4x4

[@prjroberts]

@@BritannicaRestorations While drinking a few beers... Two electric motors on each axle. Batteries between the chassis, maybe rear storage (removable) and 1500rpm generator in the engine compartment. Btw.. sitting in Malawi with a fellow LR man explaining the beauty of learning/communication and the internet. He's now a new subscriber as I explained you have done a great video on his problem. Cheers on Sunday drinking.

[@Specky12]

And your cost of fuel drops even further if you mix recycled veg oil in with your diesel, as I’ve done in the past (300tdi Disco). I’ll be running my current Defender on a mix of veg oil and diesel shortly.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Yes, I have done that here = but only in summer. In winter, the fuel filter becomes like a lump of lard you left in the freezer!

[@Specky12]

Yup, we have the same issue in the north of Scotland, so I’ll vary the amount in the tank, depending upon the time of year. I think you might have a little tougher though.

[@marineenterprise2876]

Keep the old going, cut down on buying stuff, thats how to really protect the current environment

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Absolutely! I see in the UK, old cars are making a comeback as nobody really wants all the fancy gadgets - just a practical reliable car you can work on yourself with no computer needed

[@iceman9678]

DEVAS = Disposable Electric Vehicles and Software DEVAS are gadgets that have a very narrow niche application and with a limited (10 years) of viability. What 10-year old software/OS is still supported? iOS8? Windows 8.1?

[@paulthompson881]

Another point which probably more relevant over there are vehicles stuck for long periods of time. How quickly will the occupants burn though the battery reserve trying to heat the vehicle. Internal combustion can last a good while ticking over.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

That's right, and on the long highways here in winter, you will be screwed if you run out of power - not as if you can have a jerry can of electric

[@iceman9678]

The elites' greatest fear is that they can no longer divide the 'peasants.'

[@BritannicaRestorations]

They will keep trying though You pay, we play No wonder Davos is secret

[@chrismiller9740]

I’ll stick with my trusty,black smoke spewing Tdi😁

[@brianjones1151]

I'm glad your using your Blighty commonsense to see what's actually going on ! You guys need to get rid of that Justin Castro character, that's for sure !

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Indeed, but there is a lot of damage to undo, things are very expensive now. 1-Bedroom apartment in Vancouver $1700 a month! A Lot of people are working 3 jobs just to stand still. Not the Canada I came to 30 years ago

[@u2kjib4cjkqn]

I love my 90 oil burner

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Far less polluting than Net Zero !

[@randomoldbloke]

Leyland Australia played around with electric and hydraulic drive back when the stage 1 came out . Same problem with the electric battery weight and range fair enough they were lead acid but it was a dismal failure. From memory when working hard the range was in the tens of miles . The hydraulic drive had promise but cavitation at speed ended that project

[@BritannicaRestorations]

EV's have powerful motors, which is nice, but you cannot carry a Jerry can of electric with you....

[@gilbert7794]

They won’t even take a charge as shown in some videos in New York with Teslas, why take a perfectly good old Defender and completely ruin it by making it an EV.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

There again you could go camping in your Defender EV - in your garden...

[@germantrader10]

Well said agree with you 100%

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Good to know I am not alone!

[@davidyendoll5903]

A friend of mine has two motorbikes that are exempt from ULEZ rules due to their age in the UK ; I think that is 25 years old . Both bikes are two strokes , an RD400 and a GT550 , which burn oil in the combustion cycle and exhaust loads of visible smoke of course . Many younger police officers do not remember this type of engine and he has had to explain that they better not bother charging him else they are going to look rather silly very shortly . His smart phone been useful in helping him prove his 'innocence ' , but he still a complete nutter anyway . Lol . It is -4 C in here in Bristol , UK , Mike . Had a little flurry of snow last week , but nought to worry about . Up Yorkshire I think there might be a different story . Global warming , yeah right !

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Did you see that bus that caught fire in London recently? I bet that but out more toxic fumes than a1000, recent, none ULEZ vehicles!

[@tomjohns8498]

There has been nothing I've seen on uk news about the farmers fighting for their right to work 😊

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Nothing here - I follow it on X If It was shown on CBC here, Trudeau would shit his pants again if there was another protest like the Freedom convoy, as it would be bigger and stronger than before

[@davidiley529]

While i'm watching Mike i was out for a drive the other day in my 1997 300tdi 90 when all of a sudden after about 20 miles the engine lost power so i turned around and headed for home but all i could get was 40 mph when trying to accelerate power just dropped off again and it was back to 4mph. Have you any idea what could be wrong you help would be aprecciated. I watch all your videos thanks Dave from Northumberland.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Funnily enough, a friend of mine has been suffering similar issues - turns out his rear silencer had collapsed (Britpart) Unbolt the rear silencer and take it for a run kzbin.info/www/bejne/bIPOnmWZjdqebtE

[@davidiley529]

I'll check that mines a stainless steel exhaust.​@@BritannicaRestorations

[@garypoulton7311]

Diesel filter clogged

[@AnthonyTeasdale]

I had similar to this and changing my diesel filter fixed it.

[@googlegok9637]

I like to kick-in : Hydrogen conversion of Tdi300 or V8 could be a way of futurrized it. No CO2 ( if that is a problem) and very very little Nox . Nearest filling station 600Km away...- BTW Test has shown that Euro6 diesel has cleaner exhaust than the intake air is!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I am not so sure = retro fitting would be a nightmare. The tanks have to withstand super high pressures of 700bar = very, very expensive, and what would driver the compressor to fill the tanks? And where do you get hydrogen from? Electrolyse or natural gas? What about this for town commutes? newatlas.com/french-auto-runs-on-compressed-air-technology/3523/

[@googlegok9637]

@@BritannicaRestorations interesting , and you dnot need to look for a pump to inflate your tires. You will make H2 from all the wind turbines idle time , even electrolysis is very inefficient. filling could be you local petrol station. Right now you need a 200liter tank 700bar to give same distance as 40liter diesel in a 90. Toyota go for it, and I believe cheaper and better tanks could become available , if there is a call for it.

[@davegreenwood7575]

I have a 79 series 3 petrol 88 that have used and generally abused since the middle ages...so that's saved more new cars on the road. Plus, a little 2016 Yaris hybrid that also gets abused, but it's great. Ev's just arn't the answer, but then I'm an old welder so what do I know. Hydrogen sounds more realistic to me at least.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Hertz in the US is dumping 20,000 EVs as they are not popular - going back to petrol This is not going to end well This winter is hard out west and showing the EVs are not practical for all year driving

[@vic6820]

Hibernating, the rum must be lastimg until February then.

[@humourless682]

I wonder if EV fans understand that EV range is reduced by at least 30% in cold weather, and even more if vehicle heating is used? From the very poor reliability of present day JLR, and the fact insurance is pretty much impossible in UK now, seems to be saying JLR will be out of business pretty soon?

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Yes, I read about the insurance in the UK - also theft of RR's Is JLT still making vehicles? Lol! I bet TATA regret the day they bought LR - bet that was an alcohol related purchase....

[@humourless682]

@@BritannicaRestorations I would guess the JLR purchase was a very useful tax loss? The new vehicles are truly dreadful, and as of today, there are over 10,000 off the road in UK, waiting for spare parts.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Always at the bottom of the top 20 most reliable vehicles... Farmer's vehicle turned status symbol - who would have thought?

[@humourless682]

@@BritannicaRestorations I used to do a lot of welding work on series for n LR specialist. They were pretty robust things, and repair sections not difficult to fit. When the later stuff came out, with multi skin chassis, it seemed to me the beginning of the end. Cant see that breaking down almost daily, getting stolen, and impossible to insure, are really the sort of things you want on a status symbol vehicle.................lol

[@u2kjib4cjkqn]

All part of the WEF plans

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Writings on the wall

[@PillSharks]

A lad I know has had his diesel transit flat bed replaced by the Maxus flatbed truck. He needs a tail lift which has reduced the payload to around 300kgs 😂😂. The best part is it doesn’t matter how he charges it the maximum range he can get is 86 miles!! All that for 50k plus for something which really doesn’t work but the port authority needs to be seen to go green! Bloody pathetic and I’m glad you share opinions like this Mike..

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Pathetic eh? Remember the story of the king's new clothes? I think the time has come to say EVs are not the answer Using more of the earth resources - to save the earth Madness finance.yahoo.com/news/hertz-sells-off-20-000-180317496.html

[@MrUmpleby]

Totally agree, I'm in UK and it's not just winter driving that kills a battery, night driving is just as bad with lights, wipers heater etc all coming out of the same battery shortening the range

[@BritannicaRestorations]

If I was driving an EV, on a very cold winters night between Sherbrooke and Montreal, I would not be able to do so without a full charge before departing - you never know the road conditions, which can change in an instant with blowing snow, and there are not that many service stations on that road to pull into. I can be a scary drive, even in a petrol car, in a snow storm - believe me I have done it!

[@alansimpson2524]

I know this is off topic but wouldn't this be a good time to do a bit of your Sunday jumk sales?

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Indeed, just need to get into the containers and have a sort out - -10c today so may have to wait a bit

[@alansimpson2524]

@@BritannicaRestorations As tha turned nesh then, thas got a big coat ant tha?

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Fur lined undies...

[@kdenyer1]

You need to have a chat with Edison trucks they are putting a hybrid system together for trucks.

[@googlegok9637]

adventures drove an EV converted nissan qashqai copenhagen beijing return.......... - With a petrol generator in the back!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Lol!

[@nicholasviney5975]

None of the so called green revolution makes any sense, but it does cost a fortune

[@BritannicaRestorations]

It cost US a fortune in taxes and then being handed out subsidies!

[@davemangle6448]

It makes more sense for me to convert to EV. I live in Queensland and have a 11Kw solar system on my home which is under utilised . When my 300tdi finally dies (it’s quite high mileage) it’s going to take $10k to rebuild it. For $15k there is a local company that takes wreaked EV’s and drops all the running gear into old cars.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Where do you put the battery?

[@davemangle6448]

@@BritannicaRestorations either in the engine bay or under the tray. (It’s a Defender Ute) I’m probably a few years off doing it. Till I get tired of playing whack a mole with the oil leaks. By that time I would think the technology will be better and cheaper.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Good luck!

[@apm_Cornwall]

Couldn't agree more. Electric for larger vehicles just doesn't work with the fixed point recharge approach. Until your vehicle can recharge as it moves along the road surface it's just not practical. I've read that the heavy vehicle manufacturers (JCB etc.) are focused on hydrogen and quite happy with it. I do some volunteer work for a 4x4 Response charity which can involve driving off into the wild blue yonder (well, Dartmoor) and having to limit my journey to 50 miles each way and then waiting for an hour to recharge with search and rescue guys sitting in the back playing Solitaire doesn't seem like a good idea to me.....

[@BritannicaRestorations]

My only issue with hydrogen is where do you get it from? Commercial hydrogen is made from natural gas - forget electrolysis - not enough electric as it is!

[@johnmcgonigal8533]

I’ve had another thought on Ev if and when we are all forced to change our vehicle, the demand for electricity will be huge. So does that mean we will need to build more power stations and install more transformers stations in residential areas to make the demand. Can you imagine the outcry from the right on nimby’s 😅😅😅 nuclear power here we come 😂

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Just think of all the money wasted in building wind turbines that last 20-25 years, the infrastructure and all the solar panels. You could have had many compact nuclear reactors for that money - reliable, and energy 24/7

[@sergemangen5876]

Hi, I'm with you concerning that electric rubbish the lobby pushes. It is ridicules its electric utopia as John Cadogan a youtuber in Australia calls it. And the worst of all is nobody speaks oft synthetic fuels. Humanity is able to manufacture that, it costs a lot oft electric power, yes and needs water, but in this planet there are spots where you find a lot of sun and a bit of water to make fuel out of solar energy water and CO2 taken out of the air. The advantage is that you can transport it and use it like the petrol. You don't need to change anything on the existing mobility and infrastructure and that is the problem the lobby can't make big money with that.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Heard about it - does not sound cheap!

[@sergemangen5876]

For the moment yes, but if there will be a mass production the price will go down like with everything on this world and if gouvernements would sponsor this like they sponsor the purchase of EV's here in Europe or make synthetic fuel taxfree that could help. The factories must be in countries near the equator to have enough sun and countries in this regions mostly poor could be sponsored for the construction of such factories for example but thats politics and politics only pretend to protect environments and do it only if their economy can take a profit. I wonder why the Arabs, from where we get most crude oil, still didn't have the idea to invest in future

[@hyhgtsssassfilj]

Once battery storage technology sees a massive change so that the car weighs the same, doesn’t need hard to obtain resources and gives the same 500 mile range it’ll be different. However until then, no to electric.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

If we invested the renewables' money into small compact reactors, then we would have constant base load power for a very long time, regardless of the weather

[@allthingsadventurous6568]

Superb analysis 😂 love it ❤

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Thank you 😁

[@kinnellian]

Pretty much the Defender EV has been built by Munro Vehicles (Scotland) At least, they've built what the Defender could have been - and it aint no Grenadier! Been interesting watching development from the early Mk1 prototypes. Sure EV's are niche, and Canada isn't the niche they'll conquer any time soon; but I wish Munro well, they're pitching in the right price range for more temperate Europe where it should do well. Will it do well? Who knows; EV's and EV Utility vehicles may be the future, but not my future. I might be able to afford one when the LX infrastructure collapses and they put the call out for anyone with old diesel donkeys - then I can charge them an arm and a leg for the services of a draughty 110. There's might be nothing I can to plug it into. but I bet it's easier to retrofit an EV to a Diesel lump than the other way around... Well I don't know... PTO to an old bicycle dynamo and a couple of wires to each wheel motor* or something - do I have to think of everything? 😄 *Yes I know the Munro is direct drive... even easier.

[@Moussavoie]

(From France, Savoie) I have two defender...(1998 300 TDI and 2011 Ford engine TD4) I am on the lookout for different possibilities in terms of electric 4X4s because I live in the mountains (Alps) with an access road to my house at 20°, and winter with snow, ice...and Europe is absolutely crazy and wants to stop the vehicles thermal energy from 2035. And I support all farmers who are fighting for their survival!! Winter with snow: 4WD is essential. The price initially announced was expensive achievable with sacrifice (69.000€)...now it reaches, "on the continent" 90,291€ for the M170 and €106,925 for the M280! Really (very) too much expensive...😲 Have a good day !

[@kinnellian]

@@Moussavoie Not every location will suit an Electric Vehicle obviously,.and like Canada,. if your winter temperatures are always extreme, it's not suitable. The price for the Munro is reasinable against the price of other electric vehicles in general. It's also purely an utilitarian vehicle, its not for driving about town, and commuting. It's certainly twice the proce of a new L200 But the same price as a new Landrover Defender. Any business with a corporate 'Green' image and ethos,.or Government organisation etc. is going to be taking a close look at the Munro when buying new fleet vehicles. I think that's the market they are pitching to for the moment. Economies of scale, if they can gain some traction (ha!) in the market they may be able to scale production and reduce costs. We'll the market will decide as always. 🍺

[@fire44x]

Some 2021 electric cars in uk lost 20 k in a year

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Madness! Cui bono?

[@lukemarsden1683]

Should also look into the production of not just the electricity but the batteries too. Concerning stuff regarding cost and moral issues. I don't believe its any better for the environment by the end of its running lifetime. Not compared to an older engine with a +30year service life and a chassis/ car that will last forever.

[@paulconnelly8369]

if they looked at where it all comes from i think all people would be very surprized

[@BritannicaRestorations]

You know, to be brutally honest, I don't think younger people can work it out. Critical thinking is no longer taught - if it were, we would not be in this woke/gender nonsense

[@paulconnelly8369]

i agree with ev cars vans over here in the uk they lose heat in the cab give you an idea someone london came up to buy a car a few years ago to staffordshie it took nearly all day in the winter and they had to plan there journey around tescos@@BritannicaRestorations

[@BritannicaRestorations]

lol!

[@nigelhumphreysfsuk2833]

Brilliant video and 100% correct, EV’s are a joke and as for an ev defender omg lol I dread to think how bad that would be as a mountain rescue or recovery vehicle 😅 Let’s be honest the only people that love electric vehicles are the ones that believe the climate crisis scam😂

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I now call it 'greenwashing' Like brainwashing, but worse for the economy! Lol!

[@Colinpark]

Check out Edison Motors a Logger out West building Hybrid Electric vehicles. That is a option.

[@johnmcgonigal8533]

Hi Mike I looked into converting my 90 a few years ago, what an absolute joke that was. I’d watch a few videos on KZbin of people who claim to have done the conversions, what they really mean is they were paid by to production companies or something similar to have these land rovers converted, then proceeded to tell us what a great guy they are for converting A land rover to EV . Well I say BOLLOCKS to that. They are lying twats (in my opinion) Most of the company’s claiming to do kits for Land Rover never got back to me , and the one who did reply to me quoted £75.000 as a starting price. He didn’t find it funny when I suggested that he misunderstood my inquiry, that I only wanted a price for a kit , not to buy a converted car. It’s unfair to LR enthusiasts to be misled by presenters claiming to be one of us.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I agree!! That is why I would never do one, even if I was sent a kit!

[@garypoulton7311]

Thank god Mike, I was worried you were going to go loopy, sorry, EV. I live in northern Norway, and can tell you, EVs are useless in our climates. Oslo bought a load of planet saving buses, that have been a complete fiasco.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Fear not! I didn't buy into it and I never will. I wonder who was behind this 'planet saving' nonsense? I think it has the opposite effect!

[@1982dsc]

EVs are bashed unfairly.. I have one one & it's fantastic IF you stick to 100 miles of your home charger! They are great 2nd cars for local journeys but if im honest if going any distance I prefer to take the smelly,noisy, uncomfortable defender! Charging away from home is stressful! 50/50 chance of charger working. I now go for the most expensive chargers if im away from home at £0.85 kwh as they have no queues and usually work. Cheaper in a land rover though!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Thanks for sharing

[@g0fvt]

Mike you forgot a big downside of the converted Landy, it kills the payload available. I am by no means anti-EV but they are not the silver bullet people had hoped for.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I could think of better things to spend my money on...

[@weaton25]

When I was young you looked in the scrap yards and all of the old or in those days not so old cars and trucks were rusted out the running gear on most of them was still mostly working do the same thing today and most of the vars are mostly rust free probably most of the running gear is ok but they have electrical/computer problems and it just costs to much to repair them and most people would not have a clue where to start with the old cars anyone with a mate could fix them it seems that it is more environmentally friendly to build a complete new car and just scrap the old ones after ten years use what world do these people live in 2+2 = 7.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I agree - when I was last in the UK 13 years ago, I went to a fancy scrapyard which was all concrete and racked cars They were mostly rust free, and some had minor damage you could fix in an afternoon. (Plastic bumper, lights, etc) I asked my mate why are there so many good vehicles here? Computer issues which are too expensive to fix and the cost of bodyshop repairs and parts are high so they are written off Madness!

[@berndeikers8924]

king mike wants to have some traffic on his channel - well here we go all you number crunshing experts - i give you another number 1.5 we are facing it next decade with all its consequences i remember still my teacher in biology explaining how bacteries are so stupid, they destroy theire own enviroment in which they are living. i have a funny feeling (like you use to say) humans arent that much smarter. EVs or not, it really doesnt matter. there are to many, who dont care, who dont understand, who are complete selfish. not to mention governments. i have another funny feeling - it really doesnt matter anymore. its to late.

[@Ralph94967]

Every E V will have crashed with all the temps your having but hey its bloody everywhere LOL al stick with my old 300 tdi bugger that E V crap

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Yeap!

[@mickpospiech1363]

Slightest prang in an ev and ins.company scrap it incase the battery pack has been damaged..premiums will rise.

[@alecjames1426]

Came to the same conclusion a while ago why are we not going going down the hydrogen route maybe because it would be hard to tax something that comes from all around us 🤭

[@BritannicaRestorations]

They can tax it as it has to be pumped into your vehicle!

[@danloosmore8099]

£1.38 per litre? Where was that? More like £1.48. Drop in a BMW M57 straight six for a bit more power.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Was in the AA website two weeks ago

[@vidodaluca5828]

BLASPHEMY!!!!

[@royblackburn1163]

It makes me laugh when EV owners brag about being able to pre heat the inside of their car when it's plugged in. My first car back in the seventies was a 1958 series 1 with no demisters so I put an electric heater in the back, wow how technology has changed in half a century, guess I could use a plug in timer now it's 2024 lol.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I seem to recall reading in the 50s they drove a Series 1 though Siberia and put a log stove in the back…

[@glennharvey5100]

Completely agree, total con by gov and big business. I did a rough calculation, it's hard to be accurate as so many variables and the figures are hard to get but running my old D90, I avg 28mgp (11.92 km/l) and I do under 6k miles a year, so its at least 11.5 years just to pay back the manufacture of the new vehicle, when you then calculate the difference in CO2 produced by the landie and a new hybrid its more like 25 years and I think my landie is more likely to still be running in 25 years than a new hybrid. so in short I'll be probably dead before new hybrid or electric is more environmentally friendly than my old diesel. So best option to help the environment is keep my old diesel running. I do agree that there is a big climate issue that must be addressed but selling us new crap just isn't the way. There is a place for electric and hybrids ( thinking local delivery, e.g. milk floats etc) but also synthetic fuel and hydrogen. As you say its all geared to making more profit for the already rich and not addressing the issue. Farmers can make huge changes and are trying to do so but they need support and funding, not hitting with crippling taxes and supermarkets ripping them off. rant over, time to refit my electric winch 🤣

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I read a very interesting story about Volvo's that were made in Canada many years ago Volvo's were built in Canada from 1963 to 1998, and had the reputation of being a tough, safe, long-lasting vehicle. A regular domestic vehicle had a 'life' of 9 years - after that, a manufacture was no longer obliged to supply spares, whereas Volvo, just kept going, and I did read that they received the same amount back as the initial purchase price, in spares and servicing over the car's lifetime

[@jd9991]

Save the planet by using old cars that already exist rather than make new ones half as good, less. scrapage schemes a few years ago in uk were daft, so many ok cars lost. Beauty of defenders is if I wanted its realatively easy to do an engine swap for something younger and more efficient. still more miles than an ev.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I have to smile when 'they' want sustainability, and push us to EVs. Oh my...

[@zibobpompon5768]

I have checked on their web site and it's 24500 up to 29500 doesn't worth it for that price !!!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I would not pay that for a new car, never mind a EV conversion kit!

[@jamescaron6465]

£22K buys alot of gas or diesel, especially down here where gas is $2.79/gal and diesel is $3.35/gal it is even cheaper in Mississippi where the refinery is located it's as low as $2.35/gal. EVs are electric scientology. If you want one, fine, that is your business, go to town and have a ball. Just don't ram it down my gullet. Government has no business picking winners and losers.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Winter is sorting out the EV's here in western Canada!

[@jamescaron6465]

@@BritannicaRestorations A friend of mine lives in Alberta, -30 without the windchill where he lives. Here it is "only" -8C (I think too early for math!) and they had a thing on the news about people complaining about their EVs They must be frozen blocks of lithium out west!

[@BritannicaRestorations]

I read this morning it is going to be chilly in Texas - remember what happened a few years back?

[@jamescaron6465]

@@BritannicaRestorations It is colder there than it is here. And I remember what happened, it was not pretty. Those houses are not good on the cold, everything they design is to keep the sun and heat out.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

When I came to Canada, I was told to have at least 2 forms of heating - if not 3. Electric is the main one, but a wood stove / oil furnace and maybe propane. We get a few power cuts in winter due to trees falling on lines. If you rely on hydro - you will freeze

[@AngusAbbott-qf8xm]

EVangelists will not like this Mike , think how an EV fire 🔥 would warm up the battery of adjacent buildings, cars etc ? ( Ignoring the horrendous HAZMAT fumes that is )

[@madenciufuk]

Electric production is not environmental. Even with green energy electric transportation cause permanent environmental damage. Personal pollution decrease but mass pollution increases with more production. An electric vehicles polycarbon and carbon footprint is more than a diesel

[@BritannicaRestorations]

And importing biomass from Western Canada to be burnt in Drax power station is green?

[@terryatkinson899]

You would love Geoff Buys Cars on KZbin. Tells the truth and the other side don't like it. We can't bury our heads in the snow and think the government have our interests at heart.... there's definitely a bigger picture that we haven't figured out yet. Just as well me and you are old enough to have enjoyed our lives when you could do your own thing without interference from anybody.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Indeed, I spoke to my mate who is about the same age as me, and we agreed that we were perhaps the last generation to know freedom to choose. Now everything is pushed down your throat to save the planet, well, they kicked off this scam when I left school - I call it 'project fear' and the world is still here....

[@fire44x]

Il keep my 110 petrol and panda4x4 and bsa

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Great investments!

[@mickpospiech1363]

And don't use the heating in an ev.

[@R.Sole88109]

Use a Yorkshire hot water bottle. It's a plastic bottle filled with you warm piss😂

[@ScorpioxA1]

It take more fossil fuel to mine for the "green" minerals etc ❤then they use child labour in africa solar pannels and that old batteries sofar as plastic aint viable to recycle just like all the wind turbine blades

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Spot on - if only this was made more public

[@raymondallo9947]

Sure if you have about AU$ 100,000 lying around, there is a company in Melbourne Australia which does Defenders. I'll pass thank you. My Defender will stay as it is forever. Diesel. Greta Thunberg can keep yelling "How dare you", while she is flown in a private plane around the world.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Surely the AU government will give you a hand out of taxpayers money to subsidise the conversion? Lol!

[@rdflo6739]

With great intrepidity i place my thoughts..😅. I think there is a place for EV, but its early days. I compare them to the first otto cars with the chap walking in front of them waving a red flag..😂. Great fun, but mostly useless. I'm sure a new piston probably cost a year's wages back in those days. Such is the way of change. Painful and expensive. On that note, a ev Landrover is not an economically viable solution, no overland vehicle is for now. Just as it would have been useless to build a diesel horse way back when. I did consider to build a RR ev, for laughs and giggles, but no kit, source and build everything myself. Not too difficult but completely useless😂. As for European farmers, i know a few.. not much going on apart from that they need clear rules from the government, and the cartel power of the huge distribution companies needs to be broken. They are the evil ones, not the farmers. The gov has been sleeping and letting things turn into a profit grabbing, lobbying horror. We need to give the controls back to the farmers. They know what they are doing.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

When petrol-engined cars first came on the market, lead acid battery cars and steam cars were dropped like a hot potato! If a product is that good, it will sell itself Remember the incentives to have compact fluorescent bulbs? They were crap - took ages to light up and a lot of mercury in them - lots of incentives to sell them = along came LED and bang goes your CFL's! (Quite literally in many cases!)

[@rdflo6739]

@@BritannicaRestorations totally agree.. I think there will be a decent ev at some point to replace compact cars, but it'll never be a Landrover, and I think there will a place for off road, serious work vehicles until we finally manage to pave the world... Just a shame that Landover dropped the ball and left it up to Toyota to fill that space.

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Apparently the Toyota Hybrid here, is a good compromise - battery for local commute, engine for longer distance Not sure how it works, but Akio Toyoda would not make a 100% electric car - now he has stepped down I see they are making 100% EV

[@rdflo6739]

@@BritannicaRestorations yeah, those Hybrid things are great, actually an adkinson cycle engine, brilliant engineering. Did 70mpg in one a few times. Although you have to be meticulous about oil changes as the piston rings can gum up. I think they did very well in not jumping on the early ev bandwagon and investigating hydrogen. Now that a promising tech is coming along (solid state batteries) they are investing in that.

[@andygough4666]

hi mike could not agree with you more ev complete waste of time why dont you build a hydrogen one with ur magic spanners sure you could work it out or run it on the rum you make lol

[@BritannicaRestorations]

Great idea! You could run the exhaust fumes back into the car! Would be like a mobile bong! Lol!

[@andygough4666]

us plucky brits have the same weird sence of humour lol@@BritannicaRestorations

[@kevinrowlands6753]

Ev biggest scam ever

[@BritannicaRestorations]

3-4 years time - how many used EVs on the market with no buyers?

[@vic6820]

Net zero green electric eco 🐂💩

[@barrydavis3044]

EVs are crap.