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[@LPUltimate1996]

I clicked on this thinking "Oh this is interesting to see how mine performs-" but then I remembered my car doesn't even have an airbag.

[@daniidelrey]

wait what-

[@LPUltimate1996]

@@daniidelrey 90s Audi 100 haha

[@ThBlueSalamander]

@@daniidelrey beeecause racecarr

[@Ali_zokari]

Well that’s just stupid

[@LPUltimate1996]

@@Ali_zokari How is it stupid? You're aware airbags have become mandatory only recently, right?

[@lijkenkist1]

Keep in mind that this was not like a real head-on collision with another moving vehicle. You can see the parked Ford get catapulted away, softening the impact considerably. As that Ford weighs a lot less than the Rover, the impact they show here will be about the equivalent of a 12 to 15mph head-on with a wall or another car traveling at the same speed.

[@lazarnedeljkovic5615]

Military grade camera, 1000fps. Now phones can do that. Damn technology progresses quickly.

[@Houtarou_Hyouka_Unforgiven]

Sony xz, xz premium phone from 2017 can record that speed

[@Tbird761]

It's not the same. A phone recording 1000 fps through its extremely tiny sensor cannot compete.

[@MisoElEven]

@@Tbird761 Modern CPUs can use the data from those small sensors much better and the sensors themselves got much more effective too so honestly (although what we see here on the video must be a very compressed image)

[@thesystemera]

Yeah made me laugh about the miniature inside camera. GoPro 😀😀😀

[@Oystein87]

"Are old airbags safe?" Uses an only 10 year old car.... Do this again today (in 2021) with a 20 - 30 year old car instead :P

[@joyrider6456]

That Rover is from somewhere around pre 2000, that's somewhere between 20-25 years old.

[@Oystein87]

@@joyrider6456 Uhm... So? It was still only 10years old when they tested this🙈😅 It's a old episode....

[@arunparkin2552]

@@joyrider6456 It's a P-reg, so it's from 1996 or early '97.

[@juancitobentos6351]

@@Oystein87 because 30 years before that episode cars didnt had airbags except some models. If the episode is from, lets say, 2006, almost no cars from 1976 had airbags Edit: this episode was from 2005.

[@Oystein87]

@@juancitobentos6351 Read my comment again.....🙂

[@whattheheck1000]

At 1:17 you can see this was filmed on 18th November 2005. My car, a 2011 Honda Accord (I'm in the USA, so it's the USA Accord, not the smaller Euro model), will turn 10 next March. I would guess that all 6 of its airbags still work perfectly. Airbags are very reliable. October 8, 2020 3:55 am

[@LukeOn4060]

Honda?!! If you don't get that bullshit outta here the airbags on their cars are defective as shit

[@dazednconfusedrn]

@@LukeOn4060 not if you got them recalled?

[@joedavies980]

The Rover 600 in the video is based on a Honda Accord but a 90s one, with the car in the video being from 1996.

[@sunflowers33]

I was thinking the same. My Volkswagen might have the recall, as well. They messed up big time. ​@@dazednconfusedrn

[@Simon-ui6db]

Seen a few crashed 600s and never seen the airbags deployed. Poor 600.

[@schumbo8324]

Does that mean 600 drivers never wear their seat belt?

[@MrSupercar55]

It laid down its life so other soon to be classics could continue theirs.

[@stelp7617]

Lucky it wasn't a Takata airbag!

[@jtr990]

Given the fact it wasn't full of ammonium nitrate.

[@LukeOn4060]

If it was, steve would have hit his head on the fuckin weel

[@MJ-uk6lu]

@@LukeOn4060 Look at the video again, he didn't even touch airbag with his face. Dude just tensed up so much, that he absorbed impact with his muscles.

[@TeimonKauppa739TeimoJake]

If the label says "SRS AIRBAG" it was manufactured by SRS

[@AleAv76784]

​@@TeimonKauppa739TeimoJakeevery car says "srs" that means Supplemental Restraint System, its not a brand

[@jordanthomson7682]

that's good what about 20 yrs old?

[@domagojjurendic8768]

Had a crash in a 25yr old Nissan Maxima at around 50-60mph, a side crash, airbags worked perfectly and i didnt have a bruise, except for a slight burn on the wrist due to the airbag deployment

[@jordanthomson7682]

@@domagojjurendic8768 good to know i hope they all work properly

[@somervillearron]

@@jordanthomson7682 mine failed on a 2 month old car

[@FACTOTUM_55]

While the airbags may work on a 20 year old car. In a crash the newer cars are far stronger overall as they have to pass more stringent crash tests now. Even my wife's 2016 jeep Patriot (a total turd) fails the small overlap crash test terribly. The body deforms so badly that the airbag doesn't even fire towards the driver

[@domagojjurendic8768]

@@FACTOTUM_55 yeah i dont know, had a crash in my 95 Maxima vs a 2007 c class, i definetly won lol. He was in pieces, while i could drive mine up the trailer

[@larssonnsx]

This isn’t realistic because the handbrake was released on the escort. The best you could hope for on the road in real life is a parked car. The escort moving backwards absorbs the impact. Two cars travelling at 30mph would be terrifying.

[@NoName-md5zb]

Yes. This was actually same as hiting a solid wall at 15 mph

[@Simon-ui6db]

The impact force at point of impact is 30mph not 15.

[@gabrielcooper1248]

@@Simon-ui6db the escort moved in the collision so half the energy was put into the escort meaning the energy was the same as a 15mph crash

[@TheDox451]

@@Simon-ui6db The energy/force in impact is how much pressure you feel on yourself. Hitting an immovable object means you slow down from 30mph to 0 in less than a meter, that being the crushing of your car. In crash tests wall is always deformable to simulate other vehicle, so you slow down slower. Here the vehicle wasnt stopped, this was just a quick deceleration from 30 to about 15mph, similiar to hitting a wall at 15mph and coming to standstill.

[@MrSupercar55]

Plus the dumbass took the battery out of the Escort. Like that's ever gonna make a difference.

[@artaskk]

Rest in peace stundman steve

[@truth.speaker]

Is he dead?

[@artaskk]

@@truth.speaker yes

[@truth.speaker]

@@artaskk that's a shame. Seemed like a sound guy

[@Doubleduty786]

The guy in the car that’s going to crash I feel sooo scared 😦 for him

[@MrSupercar55]

It’s calculated risk, so much of his reaction would have been done for the camera. The consequences he was describing of the floor pan distending to the point where his feet are trapped under the steering column and the leg injuries and hip injuries are only in the Pandora’s box that a collision at a higher speed would open.

[@danevans3333]

Never seen someone so calm in a crash. Will say though, how different would the result have been if the other car actually had the handbrake on?

[@Oystein87]

Almost no difference.

[@MrSupercar55]

That’s because he knew it was gonna happen. He knew he was going to crash that car on purpose. Now imagine yourself as a regular person driving down the street. You’re kind of in a rush because you don’t want to be late for work or you don’t want to stand your date up or whatever other circumstance you happen to be in. You’re not speeding or anything like that, so all is well in the grand scheme of things. Suddenly a dickhead in a BMW pulls out of a junction without looking. You’re a good driver, so you obviously sense immediately that something dangerous is happening. You slam on the brakes, but it isn’t enough and you hit the car that pulled out. You’ll be shook up by what’s just happened because, as much as anything, you simply weren’t expecting it. Now here’s a whole other scenario. You’re a stuntman, just like the dude in the video. Before the stunt, you’re briefed on all the relevant safety stuff and the fire department and paramedics are on standby in case anything goes wrong, whereas in the previous scenario you’d have to call the emergency services yourself and explain the accident to them along with any injuries anyone sustained if it was a serious wreck. You’re expecting it this time. It doesn’t just catch you by surprise.

[@ChrisPatrick-q6k]

1%

[@fl570]

​@@Oystein87 Highly doubtful. The resistance applied by the handbrake being on on the Ford would have not allowed the energy of the impact to dissipate through the Ford freely moving away as was shown, but rather rendering the impact stronger for both the Rover and its driver.

[@Oystein87]

@@fl570 The car would still move away with the handbreak on so it would make less difference than you think.

[@jaredfreeland9153]

I drive a 2001 Ford AUII Falcon (Australian model). The owners manual recommended replacing the air bags after 15 years, but of course new ones weren't available by then. I've come across many crashed Falcons in junkyards, some even older than mine - the air bags deployed without issue.

[@jamestompkins8617]

As someone who's been intimate with airbags recently it's not pleasant but they saved my life and for that I'm greatful

[@danielvilleda1002]

It smells bad when deployed right?

[@jamestompkins8617]

@Daniel Villeda well the one in the steering wheel broke my nose so I couldn't really smell anything but blood. I can say that where the horn button was before it went off was very very hot.

[@ZeeBri]

Stuntman Steve died falling out of a helicopter in 2016

[@KarlHamilton]

:(

[@kevinsong712]

nooooooo

[@isaacvillanueva9616]

:(( wow how do you know

[@ZeeBri]

@@isaacvillanueva9616 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Truglia

[@Lucario0007]

Damit

[@Mark.D.H.]

I thought this would be interesting as I drive a 25 year old Astra, but 10 years isn't exactly old.

[@MrSupercar55]

Not by a long shot. I’ve never owned a car that was less than 10 years old at the time of purchase. How rich do they think their audience are?

[@niratsirackod1]

I am absoloutely stunned how he managed to refuse the urge to floor the brakes. I personally would not be able to not brake. I had an airbage deploying crash before. It was a rollover crash. I was not injured. The airbag was 7 years old at the time

[@hondacrx4909]

I know this plane, it has a huge history on it’s back, they were only 3 of these Boeing 747-200 in this color, they were used in Greece, only one is still here, abandoned, but we use it as a historical museum

[@MrSupercar55]

They’re all freighters now. No more passenger carrying 747s now. Just as well Bruce Dickinson from Iron Maiden never listened when people told him not to give up the day job 🤣🤣🤣🤣🎸✈️

[@boy638]

Takata has left the chat

[@sensiblewheels]

4:26 That's a bad seatbelt. Take a look at any modern crash test and you'll see that the seat belt must allow slow movement of the occupant and generally into a deflating airbag to increase the time taken to decelerate and hence, bring down peak acceleration. I know that most tests are at higher than 30mph but this is way too stiff. The airbag here was completely useless.

[@leepower2717]

No seatbelt pretensions or load limiters fitted on the Rover 600. EURO NCAP tested it in 1997.

[@sensiblewheels]

@@leepower2717 The results now makes sense. But still a bad car to be in during crash!

[@8bits59]

The airbag was mainly useless because they leaned his seat back all the way, presumably to prevent him smacking the wheel with his head in the case the bag didn't inflate.

[@ACECAL-cl4tb]

He braced for impact and injured his wrist because of the absorption of shock. Just saying it's a possibility that's why he didn't move that much on impact.

[@xynstav]

I just crashed with my smart for four 2005 airbags worked very good

[@somervillearron]

i had a aibag fail on a 2 month old car!

[@paulmurcia5562]

Were you ok ? What car was it ?

[@somervillearron]

@@paulmurcia5562 it was a 2016 vaxuhall astra elite,i was knocked out and broke my nose aswell i got a pretty big claim out of it but thats not the point really ridiculous u pay 23k for a car and expect to be safe

[@zachhutchins5431]

Arron Somerville yeah

[@somervillearron]

i also bought a car with no airbag warning lights luckily i had to take the front off to do the radiator and i found the crash sensor was unplugged! someone had also removed the airbag bulb! all to save money on a broken sensor i think! so dangerous

[@ryanlu6103]

@@somervillearron S u e. T h e m.

[@robertl2856]

Well done Steve

[@aryamanchanana3951]

unfortunately he is no more. I just found out. RIP. :(

[@dennyj8650]

Took guts to get in that car and crash it. Old cars get crash tested every day in similar manner - which is why I ruled out getting a little car, however reliable and roadworthy. Lots of big cars and trucks out there!

[@ThatSilentGuy]

At least it was not Takata airbag which can shoot metal fragments.

[@panagiotismy]

please make the same test with a 15 or 20 year old car. My car has a tag in glovebox which says that pretensioners and air bag gas generators need replacement after 14 years

[@joyrider6456]

Yeah that's a question that's been bothering my mind for a long time. In general all cars need their airbags and seatbelt tensioners replaced after 10 years. Yet there is not a garage in the WORLD that does this as a standard procedure, nor is there any inspection done by an agency to check if it's been done at áll. So it's nothing more the a paper tiger.

[@Maximmaximmaximmaximmaxim]

Interesting research. Although I wonder why the airbags deployed at so big distance from the drivers head. Thank you. That gives me a hope of some kind for my 2008 vehicle.

[@initialyeet3951]

It’s because the seatbelt was far too tight and didn’t allow for slower deceleration. Not so safe

[@leepower2717]

The Rover 600 used old fashioned 3 point seatbelts. Normally cars equipped with frontal airbags have pyrotechnic seatbelt pretensioners & load limiters, these work in conjunction with the frontal airbags to cushion the impact by pulling you back in to the seat ( pretensioner ) & then allowing you to move forward again in a controlled way ( load limiter ) In lower speed frontal crashes the seatbelts can fire the pretensioner to restrain the occupants & the airbags not deploy as they won't have any effect. Some Vauxhall / Opal & Rover cars when airbags first started to be fitted used a spring loaded seatbelt pretensioner mounted under the seat which would pull the buckle down tight on a frontal impact - very easy to lose a finger if removing the front seat & you forget to install the safety clip.

[@8bits59]

Because they leaned his seat back nearly all the way.

[@jeremykuo2713]

Oh my god,you are so brave to do that!😯😯😯

[@ChrisPatrick-q6k]

Floorpan distorted? Doubt that

[@LSnium]

How about 31 year old Lexus LS400 airbag?

[@donwest5387]

airbags and seatbelts are common where I live

[@donwest5387]

two of my friends have been in side-impact collisions and NONE of the airbags deployed! (one was a new Mercedes)

[@Kev_566]

My 98 barina has no airbags but a built in roll cage long story short is was a test car and never been done however it is road legal and worth the money I spent

[@thinkfaster]

Guess that's why they tell you to hold the wheel at 9 and 3 or lower and not wrap your thumbs around the wheel these days.

[@lestatlunar]

The way that he is sitting is definitely not the way he normally drives as he was bracing for the impact. A normal man or woman driving wouldnt recline their seat and brace for it, so airbags are definitely important, seatbelts are the ones that restraint you if you brake too hard.

[@NoName-ik2du]

Interesting to see a real person in a crash instead of a dummy (even though in this collision the airbag did exactly nothing to help). Framing this 10-year-old car with 124,000 miles an "old banger" is hardly correct, though. This is a just an average crash in an average aged car with average mileage. All this test showed is that an average car still functions as intended, which isn't too surprising. They should have grabbed a much older car. Not sure about the UK, but in the US, there were a number of cars offered with airbags as an option in the early '70s. Then I think the option went away for about a decade (since most people weren't buying it), came back as an option in the mid-'80s, and then became more or less standard across the board by the early '90s. Looks like this was filmed in 2005, so plenty of genuinely old cars to choose from at the time (if the UK had a similar spattering of airbag-optioned vehicles).

[@kelseymathias3881]

If you're wearing glasses, can they damage your face/eyes upon impact? What are the dangers of inhaling the propellant/power into your lungs? Maybe all worth it to save your life?

[@jec_ecart]

A lot of my cars started throwing airbag errors around the 10 year mark. Maybe they go bad... Or is it planned obsolescence?

[@backupintheday9710]

He took the Battery out!? So how will the air bag sensors get power?

[@stevenpam]

"Steve will experience the impact as a civilian would" Are stuntmen not... civilians?

[@akj2387]

I drive a 2010 car, good to see this

[@dnadnadna743]

Throws metal peices dont try with helmet- its a bomb go thru visor.

[@blackcloudz11]

This is like the Mégane II crash

[@chumbucket1026]

Iv never see a mk4 escort with such little rust

[@abelalexa9601]

The video is 14 yrs old

[@andrejbartulin]

Can you put it 50/50 gumb for this video??!!

[@NoName-md5zb]

If speed was at least 50, that would have been something. Now its just two ruined cars and nothing to show

[@AW_2000]

The Escort is still around somehow. It was sold again in 2012 and currently SORN in storage,

[@MJ-uk6lu]

It's mph, not kmh, so it simulates accident in a city. Pretty nice test.

[@ballthemblack]

His face didn't even come close to hitting it

[@Peppermint1]

He had his seatbelt pre-locked

[@Forfeit_The_Game]

Perhaps the airbag might have come into play if he wasn't sat in the back of the car

[@danielfajka2483]

damn 1999 or 2001 over 600 is stronger than 1987 or 1989 ford escort

[@borisgaming4473]

Great test! Does anyone know if 32 year old car airbags will work? Dont tell me to try it out because i wont! :)

[@rudolfvanderven]

A bit odd that he kept holding the steering wheel upon impact, that seems like a big nono in a deliberate crash?

[@xXAlmdudlerXx]

Why? If he wouldn’t have done that he would have smashed his face into the airbag, possibly breaking his nose.

[@nessuno5403]

@@xXAlmdudlerXx ... which would have made it a more realistic crash, as they said they they would be doing

[@sensiblewheels]

My thoughts exactly. I know enough from F1 that you always let go of the wheels before impact. No wonder he hurt his wrist. But I agree with the real life thing. We probably try to save a crash from happening so our hands are probably on the wheel. But good to know the hands don't obstruct the airbag if the wheel is held correctly! That could break a wrist.

[@ELP1125]

I was involved in a crash, and that smell from the airbag is unforgettable 🤮🤮🤮

[@TeimonKauppa739TeimoJake]

It's because of sodium azide

[@jesscorbin5981]

Like what?

[@DarmiGames]

How does it smell?

[@pascalbruyere7108]

Very slow crash that only proves that the airbag is there and will inflate even at rather low acceleration.

[@tyrantwitness2482]

Any asbestos in the talc ?

[@TeimonKauppa739TeimoJake]

No

[@tyrantwitness2482]

@@TeimonKauppa739TeimoJake You took your time answering! LOL

[@donwest5387]

he WAS using his seatbelt(?)

[@Fay-wx7ob]

Rover my best 😢

[@pip5461]

Brave person... the seatbelts worked as they should, but his head was nowhere near the airbag... I guess the tests that are carried out using dummies don't account for hand tension on the steering wheel, if your expecting a collision. But why do the dummies head always hit the airbag.... if they are strapped in...?

[@nessuno5403]

To simulate the human body, bearing in mind the head is the heaviest body part there is

[@NoName-md5zb]

Speed was very very low. Like hitting wall at 15mph

[@ProBenja5]

The speed is a lot higher so the body has more inertia before the seatbelts lock with pretensioners.

[@spaghetti9067]

When you crash into something on purpose. . .

[@BlackCat-ty4st]

I'm sure these videos are not made in 2020

[@steveb8189]

She called it a 10 year old car

[@BlackCat-ty4st]

@@steveb8189 so today is 2020 that car should be from 2010 but I'm sure that cars from that age have technology not just airbags

[@steveb8189]

@@BlackCat-ty4st That was my point. The car is a P reg so was made in August 1996 to July 1997 - so this was filmed in 2006 - 2007. I presumed you knew the car year

[@daguyman5569]

Let’s test mid to 2000 to 2010s takata airbags

[@Necz824]

His face never hit the airbag in slow mo replay, if you watch it closely

[@kdri155]

Probably because the seat belt pre tensioner did its job as well..

[@PerryBobKelly]

This was stupid. Without risk of hurting a human it could’ve used a crash test dummy and a cable to pull the car

[@danr1920]

A Takata air bag might have problems if it is old.

[@DarmiGames]

You don't even know how much that stresses me. According to VW website my car is fine, but my trust issues still tell me what if. Even tho the car is older than the cars with the bad airbags. And the Takata airbags went bad even in a 3 year old car.

[@KubikCv]

He wasn ´t relaxed... He pull his head back from steering wheel.

[@pascalbruyere7108]

The guy did not even wear eye protection, really another era…

[@TheMcooper17]

id be in the old ford

[@LukeOn4060]

Yes! I crashed a 2011 car, it's airbag did what it was supposed to. It depoyed and hit my mom's chest and head.

[@shadowgaming6660]

That was an airbag failure, it went off when it didn't need to.

[@bobbysenterprises3220]

Someone who drives a 20+ and 30+ year old vehicle daily both with airbags I came here. First never count on an airbag Second my worry is will it kill me with shrapnel if my bags go off. Especially since they are in the North east states and both are topless.

[@TiptronicSS]

How did they approve this? 😅

[@bear1245]

Test inconclusive

[@kolfamalo8399]

its a honda steering and airbag what do you expect.....

[@otpfernando8459]

Who would ever put a living person in a crash they are just putting him in danger what if the seatbelt didn't hold him back and the airbag didn't deploy.

[@AJ-ms1oi]

Must of been filmed in 2007 ish.

[@endermanbokchenkhai2023]

Rover Rolls

[@mickeyy_ch]

Air bag is good but the seat belt is bad it didn’t release the length this will cause chest and neck injury

[@danielalexander8588]

Seems a waste of an old Rover to me.

[@Ben-oy1td]

Should have left the other car in gear with handbrake on ! He just went through the other car . Not impressed

[@heavychevy383]

Please do a test on a 20 year old general motors car... because for one, the airbags are older, & two, everybody knows gm always uses cheap crap from the cheapest bidders, so it would prove interesting i think

[@Qibai]

I expect the car to be much older 🤦🏻

[@EMPIRE1962]

Fifth gear rehashes ancient footage AGAIN 🙄

[@rupert6478]

my dream car has no airbags, should that steer me away from it?

[@dismalfist]

Up to you. My project-car-to-be has no airbags (1970s) and is made of fiberglass too, so any substantial accident you're just not walking away from. Back in the day there was just a different mindset; you were either lucky or you weren't. However that does nestle somewhere into an era where seatbelts were becoming mandatory across the world, innovations in crumple zones and heck even airbags did exist even if they weren't quite mainstream. But again up to you. If it's that old check the seatbelt anchor points out, could even have an extra plate welded to the chassis (if whatever it is is old enough to have a chassis too ofc!)

[@AOhanyan]

It's not a pity when you are poor and have no money for crash test dummies, when you have a guy from this video.

[@grisellimay]

This was reckless when they did it and considering what we now know about takata this could've been deadly as well

[@8bits59]

This manufacturer never sourced takata parts, what are you on about??

[@bennyz1971]

If you test it with "old" cars, please use OLD cars! how about an 30 years old airbag????

[@supergeekjay]

Airbags weren't standard 30 years ago. Duh.

[@usefulpineapple4538]

@@supergeekjay I remember reading somewhere that they were an option on the 1974 Cadillac Calais

[@donwest5387]

the "average" person uses their seatbelts

[@davidney2412]

WELL . . . . WELL SHE GOT THE ( DUMMY ) PART ( RIGHT ) .

[@ibrahimcehajic]

That rover looks like a Honda accord or am I imagining things

[@andrewschannel3635]

Rover shared many parts and designs with honda.

[@jasenjones]

I’m normally in a harness? Hello Christmas!!!

[@BitzerDogTaylorsVersion13]

In my opinion, old airbags are not safe. They designed the airbag with way too much force, so much force that it killed children who got hit by it as a matter of fact. My dad got knocked out by an old airbag when he totaled his 1996 Chevy Monte Carlo. I am a skinny dude! I only weigh 78 pounds and I'm 11. One time I was in the passenger seat of my dad's 1995 Mercury Grand Marquis and we were 6 inches away from getting T-Boned by a drunk driver. If we did crash I probably would've DIED to the airbag so we are very fortunate we did not crash because that would've been expensive and I come from a fairly poor family. So that's why they are not safe in my opinion.

[@fonziebulldog5786]

Well , that worked great after those years. 😊

[@NorthWolfe]

Are any airbags safe? I'm sure a statistic on severe injuries caused by airbags against the lack of airbags would be very near the 50% mark.

[@FzudemB]

Nah mate, that's been disproven a long time ago

[@mzmm4186]

British television just hit different. What is liability insurance.

[@ryanpatterson9526]

Anyone that thinks old airbags are safe hasn't met my ex wife!

[@adamnevinsftw]

A rover 600, AKA a Honda Civic.

[@jmin8400]

Nonsense, do your research as it isn't. It's an Accord.

[@zry5289]

I was hoping the airbag was made by takata in this video

[@egg4300]

Car

[@akki9887]

10yr old car isn't that old I drive a car that's more than 15yr old plus it doesn't have air bags

[@darkshadow.1337]

Yeah that's a great Idea, lets test airbags in old car, so we are using a car with out a airbag 🤦‍♂️

[@35i_Hearse_Driver]

My 30yr old mk2 jetta doesn't even have airbags 🤣🤣🤣 I'm gonna die like a man!