Are You at a Bad Dealership? Watch for These 10 Red Flags

[@junit483]

1. Too low of a price. (Possible violation of the FTC c.a.r.s. Rule) 2. Sites that don't list the price upfront. 3. Won't give "out the door numbers" 4. Salesman profiling you 5. Time limit on purchase price 6. Unwilling to provide vehicle history reports 7. Not allowing third party inspection 8. Read dealership reviews 9. Payment packing (illegal) 10. Rate hostage (also illegal; having your rate tied to an extra purchase item) 11* Aggressive sales staff.

[@joechevyc5155]

I had car manager hold my cars keys because I didn’t like the price I finally got the keys back and left.

[@samphillips8322]

A word of advice you might like to pass on to visitors of your channel: When you have a trade in, go along if/when they take it for a ride and put the keys back in YOUR pocket when done. Keep possession of YOUR keys and title until the deal is done and ready for your signature. DO NOT sign the title over or surrender your keys until everything else is settled.

[@allamar9083]

More than once my Trade ins came back stinking hot. NO,,,,you can’t drive it alone.

[@myopiniongoodyouropinionbad]

That sounds like a lesson learned from personal experience. What did they try to do?

[@samphillips8322]

@@myopiniongoodyouropinionbad After the sales manager made up the deal sheet including taxes, tag, and title, the guy in the business office added another line item they thought I might not catch before signing the title over. There used to be some pretty straight guys in the business but the majority seem to be something different.

[@barryhaynes4036]

I did so many things wrong with my last car purchase. That's why I enjoy seeing/hearing videos like this. Learned a lot 😊

[@jvinot60]

My dad went in to purchase a new car. He was set on a OTD price but the dealer would not budge. He left and the next day the salesperson called him agreeing to his price.

[@ChadHargis]

I do use a similar tactic. When I buy a new car, I do my research and find out what a fair OTD price is. Emphasis on FAIR. Not a low ball price, but less than MSRP for sure. I find a unit I like on the lot of every dealer within a 200 mile radius. I email each dealer telling them what my OTD offer is and that if they agree I'll come pick it up that day. I usually end up with two or three responses that say "come get it". I will either go with the first response, or the one closest to me. Of course I will get several "let me call you" or "come into the dealership". I ignore those. I set up a disposable email address so after I purchase the vehicle I can delete the address and not get spammed.

[@Kevin-mk6jo]

Same to me. I, on the other hand... laughed on the phone and told them to go phulk themselves. And.... hung up.

[@Sondan1988]

Being willing to walk is the greatest bargaining tactic you have.

[@Shalmaneser1]

Walking out is the best failsafe on any deal. It's well known that the odds of a customer continuing to do business with that location drop dramatically when this happens. The hard part is customer education.

[@jjman533]

Sometimes its hard to walk out because they are holding your driver's license hostage. If this happens, then YELL AT THEM TO RELEASE YOUR HOSTAGE!

[@ChadHargis]

My red flag is "add ons" that "can't be removed" because "all cars have them". Things like window tint, Lojack, Permaplate, protection package, glass etching, etc. If a dealer has those items listed on the buyers order and refuses to remove them, that's a big red flag. All of those things are profit adders that the dealer pays next to nothing for and they jack the price way up on them. I politely explain to the sales person that I do not want those items and I'm happy to wait for a new vehicle to arrive from the factory and purchase it before any of those are added. That's when I typically get, "It's dealer policy, we put it on all our cars". That's when I thank them and leave. Even if they call me back later and offer to remove those items, I will not do business with them. I buy from another dealer.

[@JBM425]

That’s the sort of thing I expect from high volume dealerships or the el cheapo brands like Kia, but I came across a BMW dealership that does the very same thing! I made it clear to the sales rep that although he was very polite, I would never buy from that dealership.

[@89_silvia_56]

Most of the dealerships in my area do this unfortunately. A manager asked me if I was no longer interested because they wouldn’t remove this and I told them yes. They never contacted me again or tried to work a deal.

[@dnn32]

​@@89_silvia_56 so, be it!! I should have told them while leaving to be sure I would write reviews online abt their business practices which are abusing and taking advantage of customers.

[@morthomer5804]

I was po'd with the used car dealer that wouldn't "find" the second set of keys until a week after the deal. I now recommend: if the finance guy doesn't have 2 keys when you sign, then don't.

[@samphillips8322]

Excellent advice. Must have been an alligator lot.

[@kyvirlogistics4993]

@@samphillips8322alligator lot?

[@agrippa1234]

My two steps (after having bought about 40 cars, whew); a. Give credit to the sales rep who first spoke to me but I demand to speak to the Sales Manager directly when dealing. b. Make clear if/when we agree to a price that I am not buying any add on's before I enter the finance office's "den". Being preemptive......

[@jefflitwiller8510]

The price was higher when I got to the dealership. They honored the price when I mentioned it The salesman kept asking what payment I wanted. I told him I did my research on amounts and current interest rates. We came to an agreement on the sales price and he sent it to finance. My credit score is over 800 so I wasn't worried about the interest rate. He kept asking me what payment range I wanted to be in even after sending it to finance. I put down 1/3 of the cost and finance the rest. The loan came back at 9% when I was expecting 6% but went through the loan. The year, exterior/interior combo, and cost were hard to find or I would cancel the whole deal. After paying 1 payment, I paid the loan off which was difficult to begin with. Online banking would not give me a 7-day payout amount until I pressed them. Does the dealership get a kickback from the banks? Not sure how that all works but I felt like they did not go with the lowest interest rate and with the highest kickback amount for them.

[@Mikek-ny9rw]

Hey Sir, great channel. I was in the Oldsmobile parts business for 22 years. I remember when the mechanics would fix a car that was under warranty. They were able to fix the problem easily, but they would ask me to charge out a part on the repair order, but they didn't need it. I said No, if I charge out a part, then I give out the part, so it's on them, not me

[@scottdenham848]

I wanted to say thanks for the honest videos. Good to see someone standup and tell the truth.

[@rb2530]

Love your Videos. I have walked on a used car dealer... they caught me as I was pulling out of the lot and agreed upon my offer and rate. I have also gotten out the door price on a new car by getting in writing the OTD price from several dealers online, then going to the dealer I wanted and asking if they price match, they said yes and I handed the lowest price paper to them and said match this. Got $2K off of a New Mazda3 (it was still in transit). The low price dealer was in a town that was not selling Mazda's very well and the matching dealer wanted to deny them the sale.

[@scblair]

I absolutely hate when dealers take my car to get "looked at" for a trade and they don't give me my keys back. I feel like I'm being held hostage.

[@JS-sw1wb]

You always give good info on car buying, and it help me dealing with the finance department, when i met with the financial officer I tell them this is my final price I am willing to pay, anything above this price I am not taking the car and that goes with the seller also Thanks to you for the info I always follow your lead & I do the math before going to any dealership I always cross my T's dot my I's this way I have an general idea the total cost and monthly payments, because in my head i always like to double up on my payments in which I don't let them know this.

[@GaryCottle-lw3cx]

Yes, I have seen all these red flags at dealers in Reno. A few years ago they started charging around $500 for documentation fees. I'm going to pay cash to buy a used car next time, No rental cars either.

[@samphillips8322]

When I started buying cars in the 1960s, any dealer that tried to hit you with a "doc" fee or supplemental price sticker, was going to need to see a "doc" or dentist if he tried a scam like that on the wrong customer.

[@Drewster327]

I had a dealership send me an email that they would match or exceed any offer for my trade in such as carmax or carvanna or any other dealer, i took my truck to carmax to get their quote and took it back this dealership and they low balled my trade so i showed them the carmax quote and they did not honor their advertisement of matching a higher offer and told me to sell it to carmax and i told them to kick rocks. If they dont honor something they advertise, big red flag

[@davidrobertson606]

If it is not written it is not going to happen. With used cars if the manual is missing and sales person says he will get you one. Make sure he gets it before you purchase, same goes with extra key.

[@stevee8318]

100% correct

[@dnn32]

Correct!! You have to be firm from the beginning and let them know you are not playing games. And tell them straight up what you expect from them before even thinking abt negotiating the OTD price.

[@anthonylipitt2993]

100% OTD is the way to compare two dealerships deals and this can shield you from the finance office markups...

[@andreww2925]

A major red flag that makes me leave a dealership is when they add the Nitrogen tire fill or door edge guards automatically.

[@bryanfreeman4043]

There is a Chevy dealership near you that puts a low price on internet. When you get there. They never have that car.

[@jaywattman199]

Yep, classic bait and switch to get people through the door

[@ChevyDude]

Which one? 🤔

[@MX-CO]

Loss litre

[@ronpillar9963]

Had that happen once many years ago. When I asked about the advertised price on a Cavalier (I told you this was many years ago) he laughed and said “oh that one? It just drove away a few minutes ago…”

[@JBM425]

@@MX-COLoss leader, not loss litre.

[@MilsurpMikeChannel]

One thing I wish you can do on AutoTrader is blacklist dealerships. There are several that sell nothing but Salvage title vehicles and they always show up toward the top of the search. Also, any dealership that doesn't want to give you at least the price and mileage without having to talk to their sales weasel do not deserve your business.

[@samphillips8322]

A local Toyota dealership has a number of RAV4s listed as "certified pre owned." I looked up 3 or 4 of them and every one I looked up was a rental car from out of state with very high mileage for their age, like 30K miles in one year. Buyer beware! Have you ever looked at the CarFax on Carmax vehicles? It seems like most of them were lease or rentals from South Florida and many of them have accident history.

[@bigdogpete43]

Whatever they have agreed to, make sure it is done when you drive it off the lot. Even if it is something simple like a bulb or something. Once you drive it off, you have no recourse.

[@machintelligence]

A dealer in Scottsdale AZ always includes an ADP (Arizona Desert Package) = additional dealer profit.

[@Eatongee]

Also, if they do say "go for it" on the PPI, it doesn't necessarily mean they are on the up and up. A bad dealer may excuse any issues away like they aren't a big deal or even say "So what? The price is the price."

[@jimwright4723]

#2 i always call on those and they have always resulted in lower out the door totals. the dealer i dealt with said they dont like to post thier real price cause it will look too high compared to the other dealership groups in the area that are posting fake prices (#1). i did the proper comparing apple for apple and dollar for dollar out of pocket totals and the call for price was the lowest by far

[@JBM425]

I don’t call, but I use a phony Email address just to view the price. I don’t want to be blitzed by Emails just for looking up a price.

[@bucketfootbaseball]

We have a great dealership group that does the one person, one price, one hour thing. I may have been able to negotiate a somewhat better deal elsewhere, but working with a non-commisioned sales person that only cared that I got the car I wanted made for the single best buying experience I've ever had (including buying through a broker).

[@MR3DDev]

Hot take: If you still hate buying cars is cause you are still doing it at the dealership Once I started negotiating my cars over the phone its a totally different experience and it can actually be fun.

[@MR3DDev]

@@agustino42491 then you do not want to buy there

[@simonchen6698]

@@agustino42491 I just got numbers yesterday over the phone from a FL dealership!

[@jvgp1043]

I’ve been to a couple of dealers where they show a car, and then say that someone else is looking at it and you need to buy it now. Or that other person would put a deposit on it and then they still try and sell the car from under them. That’s just a horrible tactic and unfair to the other person that asked first about it.

[@Guido_Sarducci007]

Very good info! I have seen these tactics locally in SE, PA. I sent this to my friends widow who will be car shopping Q4. Thank you!

[@jasonpedigo5269]

I have a local dealership that the sales people are in the lot and start following you in your vehicle, then if you turn around or look at them they act like they are looking at something on a car.

[@325xitgrocgetter]

Back around Y2K, I was looking at a new car...and wanted a test drive. First they claimed they didn't have the car in stock. It was listed as available on their website. They found the car but then told me I would need to fill out a credit application before I could take it on a test drive. I had enough and left.

[@Shalmaneser1]

In my 20's (early 1980's) I test drove (alone!) a Mercedes. How things have changed. PS: I didn't like it. No feel for the road. (120MPH and it had plenty left.)

[@waltajmaliii]

I love your channel bro. I recently got a new truck and I definitely should have left. But as I do feel I got, got I will never recommend them. ( LSS I had an out the door price which was agreed apon and know for sure I saw it on the finance paper/ tablet I was signing) but now on the print out it’s 8K more. I will definitely pay it off early but wow, I feel like a donkey.

[@Fritz_Lost_Sanity]

I can’t tell you how many email/phone calls I’ve had with them where I’ve asked for OTD, and they respond “well when can you come in??? We’ll have it ready for your test drive!” NO. I’m not telling you when I’m gonna show up for the test drive-I’m gonna show up, see the vehicle where it’s at and have you hand me the keys bruh.

[@GreenElliott]

When a dealer hold your trade in keys on you after tha can't meet your pricing when you are done and ready to leave and you not buying there vehicles

[@TheIronChainMaster]

And that's when you threaten to call the cops of them for holding your car ransom

[@ChevyDude]

I have this coming up in a video, but to avoid this situation, go on the test drive of your trade-in appraisal. If you have a push-to-start vehicle, there's no need to give them the keys. If it's a key vehicle, when you get back from the test drive, simply say, "I look forward to hearing your offer on my vehicle. May I please have my keys back?" while holding out your hand and saying nothing. (Because the first person who speaks after a question is asked loses.) They will never tell you no.

[@matttaylor5230]

Had this happen one time. I told them I was not buying their vehicle and give me my keys back. Now I try to negotiate everything over the phone before even going to the stealership.

[@sonofthemorningstar6566]

@@ChevyDudebingo….I have no shame…..I will tell them they are full of crap….I always tell the salesperson we have many hurdles for them ta jump over ta sell me the car I’m looking at. Until I sign the final paper work…..I will walk if they try anything sneaky.

[@mark32163]

That's easy, never surrender your keys! If they want to take my trade in for a spin I go with them.

[@peterpeter8086]

Mike what about the new corvette? Can you talk about it?

[@kenfrank2730]

Yeah Mike, what can your Corvette do in the quarter mile?

[@danielfrancella5219]

I bought a new car for the first time on my own. I had a very good experience. I knew what car I wanted. I searched 5 different dealerships. I found the dealer. I did everything on line. I came into the dealer , signed the paper work , and got the keys and left.

[@ghostofthepines084]

Can you do a video on what to do when you buy out a lease thank you

[@deepthinker999]

In Illinois the buy out price is clearly listed on the sales contract. Before turning the car in get an interest rate pre approved by a credit union. With that in hand go see the dealer and find out if they can do better.

[@Tro25]

Great advice.....keep up the good work...

[@Fritz_Lost_Sanity]

It’s also not just small dealerships that play the car history game. I leased a 2020 model car, and during that time, I had 3 accidents-one of which was my own (I didn’t want to hit a deer-I now know just hit the dang deer), but the other two were police reported other driver at fault. One of those was at the height of COVID, and the car was at the collision center for 8-freaking months. They had me in a merry-go-round of rentals for 8 months. You might as well said I only actually had a 2 year lease, because that thing didn’t move for 8 months. I bought out of my lease, because it was for all intents and purposes, my car…I had come to love it and all that jazz. I went in shortly after though because I needed to get a minivan because we had another kid on the way. The dealer didn’t bat an eye at paying off my loan for it. Not an eye. They paid off my $15K loan and “bought” my car. Well I followed their website out of curiosity, and they listed and sold that thing, with 1 major accident and 8+ months in the body shop, for like $3K more than that. Think about that, it was listed for $19K online…you know it probably actually sold for more like $20-21K.

[@NattyBumppo-p9z]

What to do if Carfax has no maintenance records for used car? Have come across this on several occasions on for example a 2021 lexus ES 350 with 38,000 miles. It was a lease car and no records available for maintenance of oil filter, etc . Great videos Thanks Pete

[@samphillips8322]

Buyer beware. I just turned down a one owner vehicle which only had one oil change in the last 3 1/2 years. Once these current vintage cars begin to burn oil or even worse, develop accelerated wear on moving parts, there is no reversing the damage and new engines are just as overpriced as the cars. If they can't prove it was serviced, it wasn't.

[@Shalmaneser1]

If a seller won't digitally publish history (URL/Email/text) for the asking (I.E. free) I check the OEM site. Some dealerships publish a URL (It costs them) link on the sale posting. I may regret putting this out there, but you can use one of the (with a little trial/error, you can figure out which one) Japanese manufacturer's sites and 'own the car'. Voila! Car history. YMMV between OEM's, but it's worth a look.

[@John-pr6sw]

No price listed. Call for price. Etc. just run. Those cares are already priced too high and the sub prime, don’t even waste your energy. I was in the market for a used car. I saw a used car, it was a beautiful Chevy Malibu, good mileage. Priced decent. My credit wasn’t terrible but it wasn’t good either. I think it was about a $14,000 car. Once we talked financing, and interest, I was like; have a nice day. Had a subprime lender offering 20% over 72 months. I was like, I’m not desperate.

[@fatlindjashari7342]

Going in unannounced is the best. No time for them to doll up the cars

[@russellstewart5414]

We just walked from a dealership last week, stopped by really quick to see a car and it was trashed inside and filthy outside. With only 22 k miles , if they never cleaned the inside of the car then I have doubts about changing oil and service. It was on the front line of a large Jeep dealership. I’m not sure if I will ever be back there.

[@jamesnemeth4041]

I totally agree Mike thanks mike totally agree thanks for making this video im a salesman myself 😊

[@jerodstanley3752]

I had a dealer advertise a different price online compared to in-store. That’s a big red flag. Then they tried all the add-ons. It would’ve been over 20% more than the online price before taxes and fees. It was no wonder that car stayed on the market so long at such a low price!

[@diamondbuford54]

They refuse to give you a purchase order without running your credit. Or if they go out their way to try to convince you to get your credit ran

[@evancontos2267]

Solid advice as always!

[@RTPTechGuy]

Have you ever seen the movie “The Goods. Live Hard Sell Hard”? You should do a reaction video on that movie.

[@wdefghjuefhdegtfthtgf1351]

With the last one i did that one time to buy a used waverunner. But i had a good reason i saw there invontory in my ptice range was good and reviws saying great would be a understatment. But the main reason i did that was it was about a hour and a half from me and the one i looked out 10 minites from them was worthless junk when he said it ran. And lastly i am in nj and buying a boat or motorcycle out of season can be to your advantage not theres

[@Lorena-OT7]

Since you are a Chevy dude what do you think of the 2015 chevy trax?

[@stryker120ski4]

my niece went to go buy a car, and the dealer was mad that she walked out, when she was getting ready to go, the dealership came back with a discount on the car, even after i told her to walk away and think about it the dealers got upset at her for saying she was going to think about it, she handed her phone to the salesman and i asked him what the invoice was and he go upset, also this sales man, or dealer was trying to pull the 2% higher on the interest rate, of a loan yes they can do that but its shady imop for a dealership to do this, when she didnt like the rate they gave her she contacted her bank and gave her a decent rate of 7.3%. if a dealer is not upfront with the price and showing the black and white i dont work with dealers like that, although they discounted it 2k off msrp, there was still dealer hold money around 1000 and the difference from msrp to invoice was almost 4 k so they could have gave her a better price than what they put on paper after i talked to the sales.

[@billfoeller4606]

Love your videos

[@johnlacroix1639]

I like and WOW amazing TY so much ,,Keep up the great work

[@Karrpilot]

I would say that when I go to a stealer, seeing additional fees, bling, and a market adjustment price sticker, has me leaving. I cannot tell you how many times I wasn't given an answer to you 2 simple questions. How much is the vehicle, and how long will it be to get.

[@Shalmaneser1]

I'd have to look it up to see if it varies by state, but 'bait and switch' is a practice prohibited by law. OTOH, the US Social Security card used to have "Use for anything other than tax purposes is prohibited". How things have changed.

[@randybryant9936]

Thanks for the info

[@3percentmick705]

Your “Buy rate” is good term to know.

[@deepthinker999]

Typical for the bank's finance charge which the dealer then marks up.

[@awkwardtexan]

I'm trying to work with a dealership right now on a car. They keep beating around the bush, telling me the best way to negotiate is to come in. When I asked if it was in stock, I was told yes but it's being driven by a salesperson. What the heck. That's probably why it's been marked down $1k, I think they should mark off a lot more. Am I being petty? 😂

[@machintelligence]

Don't go in. They won't be able to "find" that car.

[@deepthinker999]

No, you are being smart. You're the matador in a bull fight with the dealer. In the bull fight the bull (the dealer) winds up getting killed.

[@rj-vj8gr]

it would be beneficial if u did a video for people who do ride-share for a living. a lot of dealerships won't sell a car to an individual. who does that type of work.

[@XX-166]

Don’t tell them you do that job.

[@deepthinker999]

Dealer's will sell to anyone who has good credit.

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[@rh7163]

If you don't go to a car dealership, you won't need to worry about red flags, con artists or anything else. I don't need anyone to tell me where not to go or who not to deal with but then everyone wants to offer their opinion whether its needed, wanted or just ignored.

[@newkirk7591]

this video pretty much refers to every dealership ive been to

[@jene1203]

I have a question if anyone has the time. I purchased a car 4 days ago and signed all my loan docs on their computer so I never received any papers only emails. When I esigned my loan docs the price we agreed on was correct. However, the next day they text saying he forgot to have me sign the title application for the car and my trade in. I read the application and noticed the price was $900 more. I wrote him back and told him to correct it and he said it was correct since I declined the $3000 extended warranty they charged me a fee which raised the price of the car. I told him I'm NOT signing my name on anything because that's not what we agreed on...then I opened the email for my loan documents and the price of the car is $900 more BUT when I e-signed the price was correct. He said I was wrong. He is outright lying!! He took off $1,000 because the mileage was 4000 miles more than what it was listed for on CarGurus. I told him I refuse to sign and I'll bring the car back if need be. How can they just change the price after I sign loan documents. Please Please any suggestions at all???

[@samphillips8322]

Do you have a consumer protection agency in your state? This is why we have one in our state. Be sure you carefully document everything before you call them.

[@jene1203]

@@samphillips8322 I will find out today if we do and I'll contact them. Thank you!

[@bitcoinbatman3772]

I sell buybacks, they aren't bad cars (besides buybacks to do with electrical issues, that'd make me hesitant)

[@rudysilva816]

I had ordered a 2024 Z06 from a dealership and the moment I stepped in F and I he said you have excellent credit and i got you a APR at 10.9 and I walked out on them thats crazy then he wanted to lower one point that's when I knew he was playing games...

[@jackthoma3600]

Dealerships those don't give you 2 sets of keys and have lost the key fob.

[@Tablesaw818]

I refuse to buy from dealers. Don’t have the time to deal with crooks. Last 3 auto purchases have been private party.

[@deepthinker999]

Warranty exposure and title risk. You probably will get a better price from the car's owner.

[@badgerdoc71]

Should I be worryied about purchasing a new car that has been in the lot for over 4 months? It’s a Ford Edge. They are not selling overall-but are there any concerns for a car that has been sitting there for that long?

[@deepthinker999]

Dealers have to pay interest on their inventory and they would like to have the car sold after (90) days. You might actually get a better deal because they want to get rid of the car as it is costing them too much. Right now dealer's lots are loaded with cars (except for Toyota) so it should be a good time to buy.

[@badgerdoc71]

@@deepthinker999 I guess what I was referring to, was anything mechanical? Anything to worry about a car that has been sitting for 4 months and not being driven? Or am I overthinking this?

[@markthees5650]

4 months- I’d be fine with that

[@deepthinker999]

@@badgerdoc71 No. Tires can develop flat spots after sitting on a stationary car but the tire manufactures ship them at 45PSI to counter that problem. On a new car there isn't much else to be concerned about. You should be OK. If you keep the car for several years buying late in the season is not a problem, however you will lose money after trading after (2) years. At the end of the model year manufactures rebate money to the dealer to help move inventory of left over cars, meaning that you could get a better price.

[@ram89572]

I dont understand "make an appointment" The dealer is the one who wants MY money. I'm not going to make it convenient for them. I made an appointment 1 time at a dealer and that waa because it was a small dealer who sells imports and not a full size normal car dealership

[@kenfrank2730]

My Toyota dealership is very busy. They sell lots of cars. Better to make an appointment than sit around waiting for a sales person.

[@miked1551]

I disagree about not going to the lot! Showing up and negotiating on the car you want is the best way to get the best deal. At least for sought after vehicles!

[@ChevyDude]

1. You must be a car salesman based on your comment. 2. If #1 doesn’t apply, and you have a sought-after vehicle, you have no purchase price negotiation power at home or the dealership. (Simply pay what they have it listed for) If the dealership is tacking on BS fees, you have NO POWER at the store, as they will simply keep telling you that this is a highly sought-after car and if you leave, somebody else will be right behind you to get it. However, if you’re on the phone and they’re trying to add on BS fees, you have significant negotiating power to say, "I’m not interested in coming in until you can put it in writing that I am paying the purchase price plus doc fee, tax, state fees, and nothing else." Home field advantage is the most POWERFUL negotiating technique. You either can have it or you can give it away, but it’s your choice.

[@kevs2good133]

@@ChevyDudethat’s fine Mr. customer, I added a reconditioning fee 995 and appearance for 995, you want to work on the price, come down to our store. Oh you don’t want to? Okay, someone else will buy it full pop and you’ll lose on an opportunity

[@9mmsleepingpill851]

@@kevs2good133 Ok crackhead Kev, sell it to someone else.

[@awkwardtexan]

Interesting. I'm working with a dealership right now who has had three different sales people email me with that same line. Not doing it. Why should I waste my time and yours if we can't agree to a price upfront? My time is valuable.

[@SeansterMonster]

How can you do a 3rd party inspection? If they allow it, can you take the car to a 3rd party shop for the inspection or does that 3rd party inspector have to come to the dealership??

[@deepthinker999]

Many dealers want to get the car inspected on their lot so it doesn't get hoisted in the air. Out of round tires can only be seen in the air. Try to make the sale contingent on inspection by an independent mechanic at their facility and see if they let you walk. The independent inspection should run you about $100.00 which is a wise investment given the financial liability that you are assuming.

[@Shalmaneser1]

@@deepthinker999 That sounds low. Does that include AC testing?

[@bigsmith7349]

Hay Mike I was just at a ford dealership near Chicago looking at a maverick that has LoJack and wheel locks i asked them to take it off because I didn't want to pay for them and they told me they can't take it off is that true

[@Fred2-123]

No, they can take it off. They are lying.

[@s99614]

Then go to another dealership.

[@bigsmith7349]

@s99614 that's what I did

[@seanconroy4522]

Two other red flags are, gravel lots... makes it easier to hide if the cars are leaking something. And two if you do make an appointment and the car is out front already not on the lot... there's a good chance they didn't think it would start or didn't want you to hear/ see the cold start to hide noises smoke ect.

[@wardrietz1491]

Even if they can't take them off, you don't have to pay for them. Have a friend who would say, I'll give you $1 for it.

[@donaldhollingsworth3875]

I have seen new Chevy Silerado's with reissued window stickers. My local dealership will or can not tell why the window sticker was reissued. I have asked the sales manager & he was helpful. If someone can let me know why a window sticker had to be reissued it would be greatly appreciated.

[@ChevyDude]

It’s a GM thing. I see it all the time and I have looked at the old and new stickers and don’t see a difference. As long as it’s a factory sticker you are ok.

[@donaldhollingsworth3875]

@@ChevyDude Thank you for your comment. I just don't want to buy a truck which was wreck at the factory or had a engine or transmission failure during the dyno test which needed to be replaced or any other electrical or computer problems. I wish that GM would go back to the Detroit Diesel, which at one point GM owned if I am correct, engines instead of the DuroMax Diesel engines. The Detroit Diesel engines were great engines which could last anywhere from 300,000 - 400,000 miles with proper maintenance.

[@luislopez1916]

i bought a new truck we agreed on removing all add ons they didn't give me contact copies instead they gave me an usb only to find out it was empty when I went to get contract copies safecat was in there and instead of 7.2 apr 7.4 how to go about this?

[@GEORGIABOY23]

Check this out. I always call or email with a fake name..a new email address and a Talkatone number. I beat them up on a price. Then I I don’t show up when I said I would and I go in as myself and offer below what talked about with the fake person.

[@samrobinson9953]

I just clicked the store link to get the sheet but it won't load

[@gerardgalletta6943]

When it comes to regulating dealers, the FTC is useless.

[@a-veteranlandscapesitework2413]

I hate dealers at this point. By far RAM has the worst customer service. GM has been very good to us.

[@mcshark13]

Number 1 sales guys is probably the sleaziest person at that dealership. Id rather give my commminsion to a desperate little fish.

[@shoobidyboop8634]

Hypothetical: New car $100K, sales tax 10%, = $10K. My trade-in is valued at $75K, now the sales tax is on the $25K diff, = $2.5K, a savings of $7.5K. Dealer drops the trade-in allowance by $7.5K, claiming that with the sale tax savings, I'm still getting $75K trade-in value. Legit? I see this a lot.

[@Shalmaneser1]

They've taken negotiating into the gray soup of law. Wearing people down has become the norm. By the time everything is in print, people are too tired to do a sanity check (i.e. run it past their lawyer).

[@roycervantes1341]

Yeee Yeee

[@jesseteague2975]

Thanks big brother can you sell me a c8 at MSRP

[@living-wellon-less5669]

If you are a guy and the finance manager is a hot chic that is a little flirty pretend you are gay and stick to your guns!

[@dawn2788]

The GAP and Ext Warranty are legit for getting a lower rate. Chevy Dude is wrong. Less risk for the Bank.

[@christianmorales8979]

Not true I work in the business department at a dealership gap or a service contract won’t get you a better rate.

[@chucklarussell6443]

Dealership reviews are a joke. They pay a website a small fee to have any review removed.

[@nomad57-u3x]

all dealerships are just horrible they are only there to profit from their victims=customers..

[@MX-CO]

Buy private party

[@ChevyDude]

There are more scams private party than any dealership.

[@MX-CO]

@@ChevyDude I don't disagree, but I buy from long time owners with reciepts to avoid flippers. 😉

[@MX-CO]

@@ChevyDude I think something that happens way way more than people think is mileage tampering.

[@deepthinker999]

@@ChevyDude Estate Sales ! You can find a good bargain.

[@key981]

@@ChevyDude they both scamming you gotta be careful for both

[@MrJoeairman2000]

Your videos are great. But idiot salesman keeps me away from new cars. I have bought all my cars from CarMax or Carvana for the past 25 years.

[@deepthinker999]

Don't know about Carvana but CarMax is expensive and they will not negotiate on price. You might be able to get a better price from a dealer if you are willing to put up with their shenanigans.

[@shojus]

TRUMP/VANCE 2024

[@michaela6147]

Nope. Keep thinking politicians are the answer

[@planefan5812]

Stop putting politics into everything .

[@GEORGIABOY23]

Lol you trolling 😂 they are morons 😂

[@Rogerjr96]

​@@planefan5812thank you!

[@michaela6147]

@@planefan5812 Agreed