Arguing with Uncle Grumpy and His Nikon D850

[@johnbianchi6430]

It's always wonderful to watch professionals at work displaying their knowledge and skill with delicate instruments. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case in this video. Love these videos with Adam, keep them coming.

[@Jeff-jg7jh]

That's funny.

[@markjagger7139]

You could always set up back button focus, then when you use autofocus it stays locked when you take your image until you press the bbf again

[@vacanechaser]

what he said ^^ back button focus changed my life..

[@fototripper]

Excellent.

[@WyattsWildNature]

Yeah back button is the way to go for sure dudes.

[@BMRTV]

You beat me to it. BBF Baby.

[@pthomas36]

Ditto!

[@superunderlined]

It's great to see how little Uncle Grumpy needs to know about his camera and still be International Landscape Photographer of the Year! There is hope for us all. :-)

[@robstammers7149]

16 minutes of shear joy, entertainment, fun, and then some, brilliant, thanks guys.

[@JanneRanta]

You guys are the Laurel and Hardy of YT photographers. Love these collab vids.

[@northeasternwildlifephotog4504]

I feel Grumpy's pain with needing glasses to focus.

[@WoodsmanLandscapePhotography]

Your moderately filthy sense of humor is the reason this is one of my favorite channels. Great balance of humor and formal photography content.

[@KeithMasonPhotography]

Thanks for recognising that some of us auld fellas don't have the best eyes and struggle with making sure things are in focus.

[@Smedley60]

The two of you together are priceless.

[@BruceLevickbrusca]

Congrats to Adam on winning landscape photographer of the year recently.

[@charlenenagel7962]

Thanks Gavin. I have wondered about that L1 setting. Good advice about creating your own tests with your gear.

[@indianwinter]

Adam Gibbs is awesome .You two are great.Keep having fun...

[@darksideemt]

This is the best! You guys and your banter is truly the best.

[@pennysteed2683]

Best day was when I was introduced to your channel. Now I avidly await all of your new videos knowing that I will not only be entertained but will also learn a thing or two. Now to keep saving my pennies so I might attend one of your workshops in the future.

[@fototripper]

A WISE investment Penny ;)

[@larryrudnick1519]

You gents are great together! Even managed to take a picture...

[@denisesavage2382]

Flippy screen - so technical! Love it.

[@Michael_Beazley]

I don’t know why, but this is one of the best videos on KZbin! Froth on lads

[@Odin1858]

Love this kind of videos...uncle grumpy is so great guy ...

[@photobrit5660]

Brilliant guys!! Nice of uncle grumpy to lend you his gear, after all he is a star!! 🇬🇧🇨🇦🇬🇧

[@Hirsutechin]

Gavin and Uncle Grumpy, the Stan and Ollie of landscape photography. You two could start a war in an empty room! And like the others say, back button focus will save you some trouble.

[@joytrimble9282]

Love back button focus. What I would really love is a d850 now. Love u guys when u get together. Good info.

[@janetruggiero2244]

I really enjoy your videos...you and Adam work wonderfully together!

[@gradyej]

Favorite vlog... keep it up Gavin. An absolutely juicy mix of humor & education!

[@wendynewing8834]

Another great and informative video. You two are the absolute tops!

[@nickbristol3457]

Totally enjoyed watching this! You guys are great together and so fun to watch! Your workshop filled up fast! Cheers guys!

[@peepers4763]

Gavin has the best laugh. Keeps me smiling 👍

[@hughjohns9110]

I've used Olympus, Fuji and Sony kit and found the focus assist / peaking to be 'off' on all of them. So a big thanks to you guys, I had been thinking it was me.

[@Topsyrm]

My understanding waas that the best quality was from the native ISO which on the D850 is 64, Li is an electronically adjusted ISO same as 100 etc.

[@danfry909]

Fantastic video! Brilliant chemistry between you two.

[@ThomasWonderka]

What a funny video to watch after a hard day at work! Mr. Juicy and Uncle Grumpy arguing over a Nikon :-)! Great stuff, you just have to make more of these vids!

[@desdaly7981]

Back button focusing FTW

[@casperghst42]

You two, you can turn a crappy day, into 17 minutes of shear horror :-D - fantastic video.

[@82300sd]

Always look forward to the Gavin and Adam's comedy show

[@tonycannan5907]

Thoroughly enjoyable video's, great laugh's but more importantly great information. By far and away the best double act in photography.

[@normanlong2191]

Great work as usual guys love your work entertaining and technically useful…as always Cheers

[@runheli]

I like your sense of humor, and the shuttersuond must be perfect......it is a soundmodul🤣🤣🤣😉👍

[@stephenrowson4828]

As per usual very entertaining. You guys are hilarious together.... Brilliant!

[@lisarobertson7011]

Great video Gavin and helpful tips as I’m also a NIKON user

[@Mechtasy]

That lens wipe is really getting some use. Great video, thanks guys.

[@marieta.s]

You guys are hilarious. I really enjoy your interactions and your sense of humor!

[@nwgphotography]

Uncle Grumpy's glasses are just bonkers!!

[@polmacdhomhnaill3021]

Hi great show you put on great to watch. So noise on an 800 series? If you print an image of 5 miles into distance and shoot at 1000 iso your good for +A0 prints in detail without noise.

[@Walshy690]

Only recently found your channel but I binge watch all your videos. Great fun to watch and also learn along the way. I look forward to your next one. Also Adam Gibbs is genius you two have great chemistry together.

[@jorbru]

Love these videos you do together.

[@TimberGeek]

Great fun! I've got mine setup for back button focus, if I auto-focus then forget to switch over to manual the focus still stays where I put it. Also less likely to damage anything by forgetting to turn auto off on the camera body when using some screw drive lenses.

[@martincutrone5816]

Programming your AE-L/AF-L button to back button focus, and the OK button to toggle in and out of 100% mag simplifies life for those of us with subpar eyes and therefore use autofocus. With the high quality screen of the D750, like the 850, I've become a Live View believer for landscape imaging. Thank you for my weekly or twice weekly dose of photo laughs, you guys are fun!

[@grosema]

Thanks for the Info on the iso 31........ slide it in and caress the knob ........ Juicy

[@thelimbix3957]

Loved the subtle not subtle Camera Conspercies call out.

[@1spitfirepilot]

Excellent - enjoyable and informative as ever.

[@Zeppy007]

Ahh, Mr Juicy and Uncle Grumpy with coffee in hand, off to start my day :-)

[@harunaksu322]

I binge watched ALL of your videos, now what ? :)

[@fototripper]

Like, subscribe and buy the merch, clearly ;)

[@petercseszarik6552]

start over I do the same 😂

[@Xetenor]

Great video 😁 I really love your guys channel 😀👍 Always fun to watch and learn from! Motivates me to go shoot more so thank you!

[@WyattsWildNature]

Great video guys, I'm a d500 new user, so I'll have to play with those low iso options sometime. Thanks

[@Nature_Wild_And_Free]

My favorite Photographers! You guys are are Awesome! Thanks for another entertaining and educational video!

[@davidnassur7202]

This is too funny you two are great together!

[@toddboddington]

Love your humour mate! You deserve more subs for sure.

[@TomasEstrada]

You guys are great together, super fun to watch! Keep it up

[@ApexMoto]

Live View + QC + silent view mode 1 is the best settings for the d850 when shooting landscapes. Luv my d850 and if you ever get the chance try the irix lens range.

[@kustrat]

What an interesting pair of glasses on Adam. I've never seen the two lenses separate in that fashion before (2:09).

[@bbrechakable]

I could never go on a workshop with you two...I would be absolutely "creased" (doubled over laughing) the whole time...

[@tomekostrowski225]

As an owner of Nikon DSLR I thank you for this video! Great stuff!

[@terrywbreedlove]

A collaboration with you two and Camera Conspiracies would be epic funny.

[@ottersphotography304]

ISO L1 without focus peaking, while using auto focus with back button focus gives me the sharpest, images with less noise in my D850 as well. I love my D850 and I was excited about the focus peaking function but I found it to be far less than optimal.

[@wendyleaphotography1867]

I really enjoy your channel and Uncle Grumpy's! Great info today! I shoot Nikon. The two of you make a great team !

[@johnvanderploeg]

Good to see you shooting Nikon!!

[@scht19]

I have a question is that the lens cloth that you borrowed from Uncle Grumpy from another trip you two were on? Hope not as if I remember right it was used to clean another dark area.....Another awesome video Gavin..

[@PMCN53]

Hilarious! but great advice about focus & sharpness

In live view you have the opportunity to use Silent mode, which allows you to take pictures completely without shaking the camera. Use this with the remote trigger and you are safe and the images will be razor sharp 😁

[@oliverku3481]

that was funny, could watch this kind of stuff every day 😀

[@ItsWillLee]

Great banter as expected from you two! Great shirts you got selling, except I would of thought they would have the infamous 'window trademark' along with"Juicy!" :D

[@fototripper]

Juicy is coming soon!

[@ItsWillLee]

@@fototripper I'll be on the watch for it ;)

[@Eikenhorst]

You can also assign the AF only to the AF-on button and not on the shutter release, so you can auto-focus and then it doesn't change when you take shots. This has the advantage that you can't forget to turn the AF back on when you net time want to refocus and don't notice that it actually didn't focus because it was still on manual

[@mariacyou9265]

With witty teachers, even the technique of using camera is funny and interesting. 👍 👏 Thank you Gavin and Adam 🙏 All the best from Mississauga, ON 🇨🇦

[@asakyuu]

I didn't understand what happened but I enjoyed watching it ♥️

[@erjennin]

Did I see a camera conspiracies motion when the flippy screen was mentioned?

[@fototripper]

you did ;)

[@redhed1713]

Great video. Keep up the good work chaps. :-) Just a couple of things though. I think it has been said below, but the lowest numbered ISO in all cameras are normally where the highest quality for noise and dynamic range are, though the D850 seems to have pretty similar DR on the 'Lo' settings to ISO 64. The timer should be able to be set to 10 seconds in the menu if that is preferable. And I would always use a remote above the Timer if I have it with me. :-) The camera should be more accurate to focus in Liveview as it is using the contrast detection, which though slower to focus, is more accurate. It is normally better than my old eyes. I always magnify the area of focus to fill the the LCD. The focus point fills the whole screen, and I either touch to focus or use the AF On button and it is a bit easier to see that is has got it right by the box turning green, and the scene hopefully looking sharp. ;-) lol

[@TL-xw6fh]

How did these two British comedians end up in Canada? Love the way you guys make a tutorial fun!

[@jennifersayers8041]

Lol you guys are hilarious together. Poor uncle grumpy looking nervously protective of his precious. I use a Canon, I always thought that the mirror was locked up when live mode was off and so it clicks real fast and doesn't shake while taking the shot. Whereas if my live view was on and I took the shot it would take it slower. Very funny and informative, thank you. 😊

[@greghughes3965]

You guys crack me up! You need to go on the road (again...!)

[@johannac.dominguez1917]

Love you two and the D850! It was sort of an impulse buy for me and the 2nd best impulse buy I ever made. The 1st?.............................................. But seriously. Love watching both of your youtubes. I even left Thomas Heaton for you two. (Kinda. I am saving Heaton for a good binge)

[@pauldrew610]

Have the same problem as Adam, need reading glasses, always had trouble getting tack sharp pics. Then I discovered BBF ( back button focus) Best thing since sliced bread !!!! Great for solving focus issues. ✅👍🏼 Great video, as always 🙏✅👍🏼😊

[@davidalliger]

You two are great together! I lol so hard!

[@Waldo58]

Adam, just noticed your glasses, very smart 👍

[@vacanechaser]

you 2 are great.. always a good laugh

[@TonyNeat]

"You've let me down with your length" 😂 If Adam hadn't bought the 'cheap' f/4 and gone for f/2.8 he could have won you over with his girth 😂 Sorry, I'll get my coat 🚖

[@douglasneff1190]

I have the D850 and have always used ISO 64 but now you’ve got me curious about the Lo setting. I will experiment with it next time out. I have the same problem with camera shake on my Sirui tripod even with the delay set to 5 seconds. I got a RRS tvc33 tripod and no camera shake but it is a monster to carry. I now use the remote on the Sirui.

[@tessm3420]

😂 I love it you have a mouth just like me🤣 great video once again guys!

[@harsh8426]

I chose to see your video before Thomas's.. 2 mins in & I see Adam dabbing... I think I made the right choice.. 😁

[@alistaircassidy]

Thomas' video is pretty great too. He doesn't have a juicy d850 in it though.

[@thomastuorto9929]

@@alistaircassidy ah cut him a break, he doesn't know any better!

[@keenzomamanzo9044]

Gavin, Sony 100% battery life 42 mins, that's okay, you could squeeze another 8 mins out of them if you stuff them down the front of your troosers, your haw maws --> (_)) will keep them nice and toastie, buy a pair of swimming shorts with the small pocket in the waist band, they will doubly useful seeing as you spend a fair amount of time falling in the water. Or if you are not that adventurous, when shooting in cold temperatures buy the small gel hand warmers, stick the batteries along side them in your backpack, unless you want to try both Gel and Batteries down the front of your troosers and become the Evel Knievel of the photography world.... great video again Gav.

[@sharonlee782]

You 2 guys crack me up. Would love to spend a day in the field with you it would be a hoot 😂

[@davidblackley7590]

Gavin, I find if I want the sharpest from the D850 is to set the live view to silent mode 1. It then records right from the sensor with no moving parts, shutter or mirror. Since it records line by line if you are taking a picture of a spinning propeller it can warp the blade on the image. I don't know about the Canadian Rockies but the Rockies here in Colorado sit pretty still so that is not a problem. (Live view ON-press the i-set SL to 1-using the selector and button above.) I use the self timer at 5s and that seems give it time to settle. PS if you set the # of shots under self timer to 2 it will take all of a bracket of shots 3,5,7 or what ever. so one press and all sots of the bracket are taken. I use these settings a bunch and they seem to get those Juicy shots the most.

[@gordonklau]

Great video as always! Hope Sony will send you an a7riii soon. Maybe even their 400mm f2.8 lens to see how it would be for landscape work. Haha

[@ArturRozwalak]

Thanks for this unscientific test of sharpness and quality with the ISO ;). I actually was using ISO 100 or 200 as I thought it's enough for good quality. So I'll try my lowest settings at my next photo trip

[@mhc2b]

I use the back focus on my Hasselblad X1D. I learned the technique from a Nikon user, so I presume you can do this on any "800" series Nikon. Set the camera to manual focus, then use the back focus. It will auto focus even though you're in manual focus. THEN...enlarge to manually tweak the focus if necessary, then fire the shutter. The "cool" thing here is that when you fire the shutter, the camera WILL NOT refocus.

[@fototripper]

Excellent tip for Nikon users.

[@mhc2b]

Yes, but it should also work for any camera platform that offers a back focus button.

[@matureandsingle]

That was a very informative video but a complete giggle too. Awesome.

[@jchalmes]

Very nice video. Thanks! :)

[@ErinSotoPhotography]

Hmm I always keep my Nikon on the standard ISO setting. I’ll have to try the L1. I have no idea if my D750 has the assist. Thanks guys!

[@justinrichardson3864]

The D750 doesn't have focus peaking, but it does have a few options for the L ISO (.3, .7, and 1). In general, they work fine, but occasionally when using one of those options, the white balance in the resulting raw file will have some crazy results. It will look the same as the native ISO options (100, 200, etc.), but if you want to do any blending and need to adjust the white balance, those files with white balance oddities are basically useless. I think that is basically the risk of using the L ISO options. You're basically using "non-native" settings, which means the results aren't really guaranteed. That said, you can take multiple images with the L ISO setting in place, and usually one of them will be fine. It's a weird issue and as far as I can tell, it's impossible to know if your file is affected until you get it in Lightroom/raw processor. I also mostly use auto wb so maybe this issue goes away if you are using a specific kelvin value.

[@ErinSotoPhotography]

@@justinrichardson3864 Thanks Justin, I'll be sure to take multiple exposures if I do!

[@johnhenderson6562]

Hi Gavin & Adam comedy gold yet again Juicy content , of the dark dampness of wet moss , their was a difference once you turned your eyelids inside out & squinted ha ha . Have you both ever though of going on stage . Good as always guys

[@fototripper]

There has been some talk...

[@chrisroot7182]

I dunno, reconsidering that June workshop I booked with you two as instructors after seeing this. Just kidding, can't wait! ;-)

[@fototripper]

hahahah

[@gordroberts53]

Hilarious, the Abbot and Costello of YT photography! I also shoot with a D850 and just started using the L1 ISO setting (which I believe is meant to indicate 1 stop lower sensor gain than the 64. The camera also has a L.7 and L.3. If I forget my remote release, I set the self timer to 10 sec to let the tripod settle down. Thanks for the belly laugh and some good information in the process. Cheers from BC

[@Andrew_marr]

Great video Gavin, I would love to see this location with flowing water, it must be impressive. It was fascinating to see and hear you two chat about the D850. There were some interesting points you raised. With my D850, I have back button focusing set up so I can use both approaches (manual and autofocus) without the need to switch a dial and I have the back dial set to punch in to check focus. I believe 64 is the lowest native ISO for the sensor, 'L' or low uses software to simulate a lower ISO however you may lose some dynamic range, which with the image you took, probably didn't matter. Thanks for sharing!

[@davidbruceod]

Gavin, my understanding is that ISO 64 is the native ISO for that sensor, and thus highest quality. The lower ISO is achieved through Nikon's interpolation algorithm, and though it may appear sharper, you could do the same with 64 image by manipulating sharpness and contrast in Lightroom. This same principal applies to expanded ISO settings. The sensors is not more sensitive, the camera simply runs the data through a different algorithm. So I'm led to believe by those far more informed by me.

[@fototripper]

I'd like to experiment more with this and get to the bottom of it.

[@DanniEfraim]

This is almost correct, but it doesn't have anything to do with sharpness or contrast. What it does in the simulated ISO 32 mode is that it overexposes by one stop, then pulls back exposure by one stop. This will indeed give more data and detail in the shadows and midtones, at the expense of losing one stop of highlight data. If you're shooting in RAW, which I really hope anyone using a D850 is, you can achieve exactly the same by overexposing by one stop and setting exposure to -1 EV in Lightroom. Basically it's the same as exposing to the right, only you get more control over the highlights if you do it manually and choose just how much to the right you'll go.

[@CookedLight]

@@fototripper look up the Alyn Wallace vlog on iso invariance, it is mind blowing