WoW Classic - IMPROVED ZG Mage AOE Farm! 100 Mobs in 16 Minutes!

[@720zone]

Super Important: All of the timing of this run is based on starting immediately upon zoning into a new instance. Reset and zone in with your boosties together and start right away.

[@Bizm4rk]

Great video - i levelled my own alt in ZG using my mage but after 100+ runs of princess, I've got no dagger to keep my mana up. I've also had multiple occasions where i jump and down during the flamestrike and mobs just entirely ignore pathing and kill me when I'm on the the rope. The best way I found to work around this sort of thing was to really group up the mobs tight while coming towards me, jump up, get off 1-2 ticks of blizzard, then use Icy veins+SP Trinket, Cast max rank flamestrike (rank 6), then instantly go into a rank 1 blizzard to keep the mobs slowed and stacked. After Blizzard slow is refreshed, I cast a second flamestrike but at rank 5, as the ground effects stack with each other and again go into a half rank 1 blizzard. You can do another Rank 6 Flamestrike and R1 Blizzard before the icy veins wears off, and hopefully at all times, all the mobs never stop being blizzard-slowed. You can do this twice, with cold snap + veins and 2 trinkets. I find this does 50%-70%+ of their HP in about 60 seconds. After this it slows down a LOT due to having to be careful with mana. Hope this helps my not-so-lucky mage boosters without blade. If you have water elemental, the pet nova can help secure 2 huge flamestrikes per cast without icy veins, so that's even more mana efficient. Just make sure you spam "/petstay" otherwise the water elemental runs into the river and pulls fish, who kill you from beneath in a matter of seconds.

[@arlaeus9491]

Thank you for the detailed explanation! Sorry about the princess RNG :(

[@fingolfin35]

couple of things I do differently, its just a mtter of preference though, but maybe someone is like me :D -at the tree-trunk, i run up all the way, jump towards the tree, hit it mid air, and blink once im in water, then you dont have to jump after blinking, theres still more than enough time -i rp jump at the bridge and to make it consistent, I pop a noggenfogger after the last pull so i get skeleton form. the skeleton makes the jump 100% consistent. it makes the jump faster than jumping from the middle which means more time for flamestrike. also, more importantly, theres also a working spot further back towards the other side of the bridge and the mobs never get anywhere as close to you as they do that way. also makes it a lot easier to keep them group up and keep them all slowed at all times. Its definitely worth waiting one or two jumps with flamestrike to group them up more before. -if availabe: full zg set+5/8t2 -use icy veins and mqg: a lot easier to do the flamestrike-stacking that way. also dont forget to use coldsnap for a second ivy veins. I got the croc pull down to around 9-9,5min/pull, its huge. Talentbuild I use (frost is a bit all over the place, some talents are basically just to get icebarrier): legacy-wow.com/tbc-talents/mage-talents/?tal=2000000000000000000000050520030000300000000000520023313230013201000

[@fingolfin35]

*9-9,5min is after looting, so the pull itself is like 8-8,5min

[@MS-ly8iz]

Thank you alot for the clear cut overview and the timestamps it makes it so much easier to rewatch parts and solid information as always

[@arlaeus9491]

Thank you!

[@Nick-zb9nh]

was wondering if anyone else noticed the nerf to voodoo slave damage! was trying my usual pull and noticed they were not hitting very hard at all! nice vid as usual. -- i attempted to do the 1 pull starting from mistress room, it worked okay but not nearly as successful as the previous lip pull. i think once we hit level 70 and can resist the mobs for even more mana this pull will be insane! tried it a bit on beta I think you will have fun with that :)

[@crusadurus]

Theres several reset spots in the Jindo room. Me and a rogue damn near lived in here when phase 4 came out. Jumping up on the large skull idol things, and atleast the small stone tablet sticking out of the ground in the back left area also works, dono if its far enough from mobs to properly reset tho, the rogue was a miner and used that one solo often. I would pull mobs away for him to mine, herb and pick piles. worked really well.

[@frankcarbone7642]

where was this video a week ago? (lol). I just finished PLing my Shammy 50-60 with a lot more pain than this! I had many croc issues during the kill phase that were not pathing according to Classic's behavior. They would occasionally split (mind you, I was using both side of the bridge to aoe) and sometimes they would make their way down the bridge even while I was on the rope and wouldn't just stop for a bite and path back up! They would stay there chomping on me, causing me to drop in the dip and lure them back up again. And it's not just because they were too close when I made the jump on the rope. They would come from the top and not budge. Thanks for posting though. Been a using your vids for a while and recently joined a paid subscription to your twitch to show support!

[@Blendercage]

When that happens, I will backpedal down the rope until the disengage, then work again towards grouping.

[@freakingscared1]

i enjoy the fact you suggested enchants that would help you, something i dont think you've covered very much.

[@arlaeus9491]

Thank you!!

[@Blendercage]

I built a macro to target the cubs so I can keep and eye on their health. Sometimes I’ll give up a flamestrike moment when they’re at 40% or so just to blizzard again and get them to go up to maximize their distance from me so I have more time to react if they start to run. I will also sometimes drop my blizzard towards the middle or back of the pack, letting some front runners separate a little, just to make sure I blizzard any running cubs.

[@SovereignVoid]

I dont have the temper control to do aoe farm sadly

[@betterdeadthanred9863]

The better loot tables seem great, but I spend a few minutes skinning the tigers/crocs and have so far made 900g+ just on Rugged Leather. Just some food for thought :)

[@gamersrevenge6528]

hey boss great vid as always, do you think you can do a new and improved mara princess run? i'm sure with the new pre patch there is a better talent spec to use, perhaps it would be a good video since a lot of people will farm that item for tbc

[@roeshambo]

Fun fact: If you're wearing 3 piece Enigma, Clearcasting can proc off of Blizzard ticks. Unlimited Blizzards. Keep it quiet.

[@nickdg2480]

+1 for pulling the berserker! 😂 That’s scary af

[@Evelyn208]

Can't wait for the mages on my server to do this and charge 999g per reset !

[@kimpa1234]

Is it possible to go from 60-62 or higher just doing these solo? Is it a good leveling method now when TBC launches?

[@alanpulido3205]

The corner closest to jindo in the skele pit is a reset spot!!

[@arlaeus9491]

Good call! Thank you!!

[@Rizz_The_One]

As always good content! Tyvm

[@kevinflynn4867]

Thanks for your vids ,you are the best :)

[@2dmajor999]

Thank you Arlaeus, I was really afraid that the aoe cap would be the death for our farm's, now I can't wait to see how we will perform at 70, especially with our Paladin's. 👍

[@MitchAdam8]

Arlaeus' videos are so long, I leveled to 60 before the video finished.

[@wahyuaria4676]

finally upload zg, thx mate

[@kolbyb4816]

You should look into a software to mark your screen instead of using the mouse for it. Might help explaining things

[@tobypayne4107]

Once TBC comes out will ZG be optimal to solo grind to lvl 62 before moving over to slave pens?

[@MrKemboo]

Omg, that would be awesome

[@Rockmaster867]

Slave pens was nerfed. Doesnt work anymore

[@MrKemboo]

@@Rockmaster867 again? The wall don't work, but you can still one pull to the first boss. 🤔

[@tobypayne4107]

Only nerf I’m aware of is the wall one. Did they nerf the xp gains thru kiting?

[@arlaeus9491]

Xp gains past first boss are nerfed UNLESS first boss is killed. 50ish mobs still farmable. ZG will likely be a great option to start!

[@cadex8318]

Can confirm, ZF Solo Full GY pull at lvl 40 doable

[@andresuran7383]

fresh 60 belf pally here. Been saving gold on my main for my flying mount but decided to splurge boosting my pally. My intentions are to use the pally to make good boosting others but idk what’s good gear going into tbc. Possible you make a list or vid on what gear farmer pallys should aim for in tbc?

[@andresuran7383]

Your videos are awesome by the way my friends and I been watching them religiously lately

[@arlaeus9491]

Thank you man! Honestly the prebis blues from dungeons will be amazing!

[@ajbarone4506]

Thanks

[@user-qz4jb2hj2d]

i just cleared few mobs on this bridge and how is the arcane concentration not better here? I mean you just use rank1 blizzard and when it procs you use last rank.

[@dcgrtrw3697]

hey arlaeus. Aldors or cryers for boosting people?

[@Whodawhadadoda]

Any chance at seeing some strath action prepatch?

[@Pety6009]

Many times mobs don't turn around when jumping to the rope as a female human. Two steps back or casting blizzard worked pre-pre-patch, but now I cannot finish my pull because of this 50 percent of the time. Do you have any solution for this?

[@KevTechify]

OGH Squad

[@Sheep--]

You should be able to cut this down to 12 - 13 minutes or so by pulling the zombies first. I made a video about it but that was 11 months ago now so idk how much has changed.

[@smashenYT]

Hey master, where should I aoe grind as a lvl 36 horde mage? Do you have like a spreadsheet or something? Is Zulfarak still doable with the aoe cap at lvl 40?

[@Rapilol]

i is, but u should be lvl 40

[@smashenYT]

@@Rapilol but because of the aoe cap Blizzard does no damage. He did it on his 60 and it took ages + alot of mana hmm

[@DrekoWoW]

Question. Is this still viable for self leveling? Currently trying to get a mage to 60 and would like to know if I can do ZG pulls myself or if I should farm money to have someone else do it

[@MrKemboo]

He said in his streams that it's doable from 58. Think you need a few consumes, tho. I am gonna try tonight

[@FirstName-pz5du]

What about dampen magic wouldn’t that help?

[@joshallen6799]

You ever are see the pack split an half the gator run to you after you jump up on the rail?

[@arlaeus9491]

Very seldomly! Try to not let them get too close to you when swapping sides

[@sneerglawroman2974]

I've seen videos of ppl adding these mobs and Panthers all in 1 pull, is there a reason you are doing Crocks and jindo mobs separately? Is it faster this way?

[@mataszelnys8219]

Because of the LIP change, sir. It doesn't work the way it used to, before pre-patch.

[@sneerglawroman2974]

@@mataszelnys8219 could you theoretically do Crocs and Panthers in 1 pulls still? That bit is all lipless right? I've done 11 pack pull for a long time and am thinking about adding jindo mobs or Panthers idk

[@mataszelnys8219]

@@sneerglawroman2974 Yes, the 11 pack+panthers is very much manageable, I've been doing that one lately, trying to figure out a way to add the jindo mobs to the pull :)

[@sdgfasdf7831]

Any idea if this will work for leveling past 60?

[@tylercereghino6633]

Do you think the 11 pack pull is still possible if you iceblock with all the mobs gathered and then spam lip + blink macro to minimize damage?

[@sandbucket9289]

lips dont work in tbc anymore. They've been nerfed to only reduce physical damage taken by 120 for 6 seconds.

[@tylercereghino6633]

@@sandbucket9289 yea, I know that, that's why I'm asking if it's still possible if you can use a lip + blink macro and lip would just mitigate 25% or so of the damage without getting 1 shot

[@HotpocketsThrillerbarkPVE]

I would say probably not

[@Sevem7m]

I highly doubt that it would make any difference.. you would prob come out of the ice block and use your lip as you fell over dead

[@arlaeus9491]

Hmmm potentially! But you don’t need ice block so not sure why you would want to do that instead

[@vanp2640]

Does this work for leveling too?

[@eliasnylen1687]

whats the lowest level for a mage to run this?

[@arlaeus9491]

58

[@godmage2585]

Did they fix resetting while you're logged out? I recently tried doing it again and it always puts me in an entirely new instance than my other boosties and double instance id's me.

[@narazil]

You can't both have people run out and you log out. Logging out and resetting has always put you in a weird ID that others cannot enter.

[@eleson2568]

@@narazil i never have a problem, just don't have people outside when you reset and you won't have a problem

[@eleson2568]

Everyone needs to be logged out inside the instance for it to reset properly, recently got boosted and it blew my mind how many people couldn't understand how to reset properly it really isn't hard. Sounds like you are trying to run out solo and have your boosties log out inside when you reset outside and yeah that doesn't work you need to all be logged out inside and reset it from a 2nd account

[@godmage2585]

@@eleson2568 Naw, I was resetting it the normal way, I've done over 3000 zg runs and it seemed to just glitch out for that one day. It's fixed now though, not sure why it wasn't working.

[@IAmShirati]

It's a cool pull, I don't think it'll be efficient when you take into account that a lot of the times you'll have to wait for the serker to be in a right position, and then also not pause the timer when you're looting ;) That's still time inside the dungeon. Not to mention that this pull is riskier, so if you are running with a Swiftness of Zanza you're putting that more in danger and having to leave to restock will have you ultimately lose time. I would personally just rather pull 1 or 2 panther patrols and still stay within the instance cap timer to make my runs more efficient

[@garrymullins]

Yea I think you're right. Especially if you're dealing with boosties and such. It seems likely that adding the panther temple or jindo room is only worth doing every 3 pulls or so.

[@tom55123]

What is his loot addon?

[@mortesawsh5951]

what to do about sons of hakkar aggro? 7:30

[@arlaeus9491]

Swim into the water if you need to just watch for the fish agro there!

[@Bdizzle-x]

What's the point of going Improved Fireball? Not trying to be rude! Just never done this before. Thanks!

[@garrymullins]

You need to put 5 points in fireball or impact to hit the other talents you need.

[@Bdizzle-x]

@@garrymullins Wouldn't Impact be better? For AoE farming

[@garrymullins]

@@Bdizzle-x Probably not if it causes the mobs to get unstacked.

[@relentlesshvh]

I’m lvl 11 can I do this

[@arlaeus9491]

Hahaha give it a shot and let me know how it goes! Just kidding haha. Minimum level to enter the instance is 50 and to pull it off is 58

[@upidddd437]

sir please dungeon atal templar in swamp of sorrow:) please

[@arlaeus9491]

Unfortunately there’s not really great pulls there that I know of :(

[@upidddd437]

@@arlaeus9491 try😂 i need farm in dungeon:(

[@Eddie2P]

can youi get xp at lv 60 in tbc doing this?

[@MrKemboo]

Yes. I boosted my druid from 52-55 and got to 61 with my mage doing it

[@trollgrim9383]

Is it still relevant?

[@Rockmaster867]

Why dont you just lvl to 63 in ZG???????

[@Cheezeblade]

is this doable only at 60?

[@arlaeus9491]

You can start at 58!

[@Cheezeblade]

@@arlaeus9491 huge. as far as i see it youre the final word on viablity for guides like this.

[@Elanar18]

just do only blizzard dont care about flamestrike and all will be good clean the same run in 15 mn

[@lekstre9117]

nope :)

[@Elanar18]

Lol I do it in 15 Mn without all his stuff but you prefer say nope without testing it

[@stephengonzales3566]

I hate to be that guy... and say this at all. But every time you say 'pull' it sounds like 'pool'. And it makes my brain itch. Other than that, great video as usual

[@joaorosado4133]

great! but could you do it as a 58 still?

[@arlaeus9491]

Yup 100%!

[@bshanks2012]

protip: use dampen magic on jindo pull lmao

[@IAmShirati]

12.5 minutes* for 5 dungeons per hour. Not 15 minutes.

[@Blitzkrieg6565]

The timer starts after your first reset. If you finish a run at 0800 and reset the instance you can do 4 more runs by 0900 making it 15 mins per run.

[@godmage2585]

@@Blitzkrieg6565 ^ Exactly, your first run can take 30 minutes and then have your other 4 runs take 14 minutes each and you will hit instance cap

[@bucky7162]

Makes me so happy the nerfed mage boosting in SoM :) no more of this bullshit

[@HarvestrX]

So this is what RPG adventure looks like? SMH.

[@1337AceOfSpades1337]

I'm going to track my progress under this comment:

[@1337AceOfSpades1337]

First 2 runs I messed up the blink through the tree and died

[@CleopatraAnimations]

Stop exploiting the game people like you ruin it.

[@moptbc686]

I know you run out of content and need to make youtube videos to make money, but it's getting annoying. You are basically making the same video over and over again with a slight change

[@Martianbuddah]

You know whats great about KZbin ...? YOU can decide which videos you want to watch. If you are not interested, dont watch, pretty simple. These pulls evolve and are improved over time so it is nice to have somebody who regularly puts up videos of the current meta

[@moptbc686]

@@Martianbuddah You know what is great about KZbin comment section? YOU can give your opinion about something. Dude you can't deny the fact that he's just spamming videos for revenue. I mean there is nothing wrong with it. But that's the truth. Just write in his youtube search bar a dungeon name and you will have literalty 30 videos of the same thing

[@Martianbuddah]

@@moptbc686 Yeah but that's what he has been doing for since i know this channel and that's why he is being watched ... I come to this channel whenever i want to see a recent optimized version of a specific dungeon pull and it is nice to then find videos that are only a few weeks old where he goes through the most recent changes. I mean ... i would like to understand why you are here. You don't have to watch his content so why are you getting annoyed by it?

[@XqzmeBxtch]

Tbc Boost Works? Slave pen?

[@arlaeus9491]

Probably not slave pens. It won’t be a large amount of xp. Not sure on the rest!