Godwyn the Golden, Prince of Death Lore | Night of the Black Knives | Fia, D, Rogier | Elden Ring

Godwyn the Golden, Prince of Death Lore | Night of the Black Knives | Elden Ring
In this video we go over the lore of Godwyn the Golden, Those who live in Death, D, Rogier, and Fia, a lot of their lore are entwined in this video of Elden Ring.
Table of Content:
0:00. Obscure Speculation warning
0:28. Godwyn Introduction
1:35. Night of the Black Knives
5:04. A True Death & Those who live in Death
8:10. Deathbed Companions
9:55. The Hallowbrand of Death
10:15. D
11:05. Hallowbrand cont.
13:06. Godwyn, the Prince of Death
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【BGM】
Elden Ring OST
Roundtable Hold
Limgrave
Catacombs
Leyndell
Miquella's Haligtree
Leyndell
The End
Final Battle

[@ArlunGrim]

Take a shot everytime I say 'Death' and you'll probably be one of Those who live in death.

[@jonnymario771]

Good thing I have sake on my desk.

[@billythekeg]

Damn haven't even started the video and I'm already two shots in.

[@bloodisfrightening1203]

I don’t know if anyone has thought of this before (someone probably has because it’s not that complicated or anything) but It’s basically a drinking challenge where you drink every time you have to drink a flask in elden ring.

[@mynameismice]

What is the in game source for queen Marika removing the death rune from the elden ring?

[@cmykrgb1469]

I'll try that tonight while playing the game and listening to this in the background. 5 bucks says I'll die more times than he says "death" in the script.

[@hellyeahimrho]

The Twinned Armor set's description said that D is of two minds. Normally, someone of two minds can be considered as crazy. A synonym for crazy is nuts. In short, D's nuts.

[@jellydamgood]

Gottem

[@MultiWolfstorm]

Clever sort, O clever sort... Praise the message! Didn't expect jolly sort, joy For real though, really funny and clever comment dude, I bet it gets 1k likes MINIMUM.

[@Goefrei0516]

They gottem in the first half, not gonna lie.

[@patrickripleyiii134]

No it's that him and his brother are two minds, they are two different people they just share a soul

[@MultiWolfstorm]

@@patrickripleyiii134 stop ruining the joke, nerd 🙄

[@CNNBlackmailSupport]

"Instead of slaying him, he befriended the dragon instead..." Shonen confirmed.

[@shindra1378]

Nameless King in ds3 befriended a dragon aswell

[@pebrockk]

Wyvern

[@matheuscruz8574]

But then he died because the world is cruel Seinen confirmed

[@MadDannyWest]

Also Godfrey has a Stand, so yeah it's definitely a shonen

[@arturobelano6243]

@@shindra1378 he was also gwyns firstborn and is curiously absent from the first two DS games (much like godwyn doesnt really show up in elden ring)

[@thelasttrylobane5603]

D’s speech after killing Fia really reminded me of Alfred’s speech after killing the Vileblood Queen. Both triumphant and brimming with hatred.

[@mozes88]

True!

[@Big_Dai]

..And yet utterly pointless.

[@herbertwalter8693]

tarnished, what is this thing peeking out of your pocket?

[@bungiecrimes7247]

@@herbertwalter8693 greatsword

[@mvmusic8467]

@@Big_Dai What does that even mean?

[@joesheridan9451]

I find Godwyns situation so disturbing. Being this handsome golden chad demigod turned into some of the purest nightmare fuel is horrible enough. But also we have no reason to suspect he was a bad guy in any way or that he deserved what happened to him...

[@RevolverRez]

Yeah, I regret working for Ranni after knowing this. She deserved an ass kicking similar to Fia.

[@Grangelzz]

@@RevolverRez i dont think ranni is the one that ordered it. The armor has this as desciription: "The assassins that carried out the deeds of the Night of the Black Knives were all women, and rumored to be Numen who had close ties with Marika herself." Marika herself i think did it why i dont know but i dont think Ranni had any real controll over the assasins.

[@citizensnips475]

@@Grangelzz Wasn't Marika so upset by the killing she flipped out and destroyed the ring? Also, for someone who only created the knives to kill her own body, she sure did make an awful lot of them... I dunno, I don't really buy it. But I guess that's the open ended storytelling at work. Things are vague enough, you can come up with your own answers if you want.

[@michaelalberto9846]

It's possible it can be a english mistranslation. Bloodborne had that problem.

[@M1ndblast]

@@Grangelzz This is an interesting part of the lore for sure. Ranni made the knives, and needed to steal the death rune to do it. It was the fact that they died at the same time that caused this effect. Now, Ranni wanted to physically die. If the knives normally fully kill, the timing can not be an accident. Which means it was orchestrated. Which suggests she's very deeply involved, but exactly how isn't known(yet). At the very least she was riding on the coattails of a murder plot.

[@zora508]

Man miquelle is so nice He tried to help his brother and sister and made a whole new erdtree so people can live there And all that makes what happened to him more Sad..

[@putent9623]

Yeah idk if this is bad or not because In reality as a human I'll be kinda happy If all these OP demigods got cut off and never actually because gods, because if they did then we would all be ever so helpless to whatever they deem necessary. But on the other hand it would of been insanely cool to see what Melania would look like and be If she blossomed once more and became a god, same with miquella if mohg hadn't been such a bitch, also same with ranni and godwyns death. Oh and there's radahn as well who might actually be the most powerful of the demigods, since he was able to hold the stars in place just so he could fuck the careans and by proxy ranni and rennala. Imagine what these character would be if they weren't met with such gruesome fates, there's not a single one of the demigods that have it good, the fact that Melania is a god and yet she is still missing limbs and her eyes is just so sad and weird (it feels odd to see a literal god as crippled as a mere mortal).

[@etk5129]

yeah, but also he provides his followers with a certain golden hat which makes them more prone to follow him. while preventing the influence of outer gods, it provides increased faith towards miquella. the intention is unknown if it's for a greater good, or for miquella's own ambition

[@zora508]

@@etk5129 I wouldn't call that bad compared to what the other demigods would do lol He had the power to make his people more loyal I think it only make sense to use it

[@NeoNaito]

@@putent9623 never heard of Odin?

[@GrimViridian]

I really think miquella is gonna be dlc

[@Sylentmana]

It’s my personal take that Ranni planned the death of Godwyn to happen at the same time she killed herself so that her body would die but her soul would live. I think the reason she chose Godwyn was because she knew he was Marika’s favorite and she wanted to cause her as much pain as possible. Either she knew Radagon was Marika or she blamed her for stealing him away from her mother and leaving her mother heartbroken and insane.

[@carlycrays2831]

I subscribe to the theory that Ranni is actually Rennala's adoptive daughter, which makes the whole thing about Ranni hating her own body lead into this. She wanted to shed anything of her father/mother for what they did to Rennala.

[@MrOverTyrant]

Marika seems to have helped as you notice a phantom states Godwyn wasn't that loved for Marika as many believe and the Black Knives are very close to Marika as stated before thus many theories suggest she actually helped Ranni or pretended not to notice to shatter the ring as she doesn't align with the greater will either. Radagon seems to be Marika other half and probably uphold order so these two sides of the same god conflict each other.

[@carlycrays2831]

@@MrOverTyrant This makes me wonder, what if Marika killed Godwyn because she was jealous of how much he was beloved and the power he was gaining from the dragons?

[@Lizantrope]

It's actually written in the item discription of the curse mark of death. So yeah your 100% right on that one

[@faith9338]

I liked the theory that Godwyn was her fiancé once Ranni would take over the golden order

[@Apeacrobat01320]

Godwyns design is so interesting, im very curious why he has an oceanic design, the clam face, the fish tail and the fins along his arms.

[@beastmotoz]

So where do we find Godwyn

[@fuckaduck5748]

@@beastmotoz his body is in deeproot depths

[@Apeacrobat01320]

@@beastmotoz the thumbnail of the video is godwyn homie

[@TonkarzOfSolSystem]

Because he's cthulhu.

[@SeaGrader]

I hope we get an update with more information on this, he looked normal in the trailer and turned into nightmare fuel mermaid man

[@zolors9917]

I can see the inspiration from Norse mythology. Baldur the Beautiful was a beloved god and his death is the catalyst for ragnarok. Godwyn the golden was a beloved god and his death is the catalyst for the shatterring. And Tarnished feels like warriors picked up by a greater power to fight in the apocalypse

[@raphaeldias5502]

Dude, i thought the same. The death of Godwin looks like a terrible crime, there is not a single character that cheerish that event. Just like Baldur, Godwin was loved by everyone. That is why Ranni can't be a good person. She is against the order, is a shapeshifter of sorts, and is responsible of Godwin's death and by proxy the responsible of the shattering. So she looks very inspired by Loki.

[@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx]

@@raphaeldias5502 Despite the fact that she becomes your consort in her own personal ending, Ranni herself is an extremely short-tempered individual and was also very manipulative in many ways just to get the favor of service in other people rather than doing it on her own.

[@enthusiastofcute]

@@raphaeldias5502 there are no “good people” in from soft games. And the ones that might seem “good” never stay that way through different ways. But there are certainly lesser evils, what those lesser evils are though are up to the players

[@JordanII.]

@@enthusiastofcute what about Miriel??

[@enthusiastofcute]

@@JordanII. ah yes, from softs intelligent animal forms. You know what? Now that I think on it maybe the peaceful nonhumans are actually the most "good" in from soft games (examples that come to mind: Elizabeth DS1 Mushroom, Priscilla the Crosbreed, Sif the Great Grey Wolf, various nps who are mocked or shunned in the lore by humanity (before and after the undead curse). Emphasis on the peaceful part though, there are definitely exceptions like Oceiros (dude really crushed his baby cause he got mad)

[@mr.international2778]

My theory to why godwyn looks like that and why you see the cthulu faces around like in stormveil is that his mind and soul arent around to contain his body's godly power so it mutates and spreads uncontrollably like a cancer.

[@paz1514]

Thats a solid theory actually. Makes a lot sense in hindsight

[@Anub6543]

More like roots.

[@joelmichaelviado1226]

They implied that because they buried Godwyn at the roots or the Erdtree and because he's tainted by the rune of death he's been contaminating the Erdtree roots throughout the land, causing the zombies. Those are the roots you see at the end of each catacomb with corpses bunched at its feet.

[@Saicofake]

@@joelmichaelviado1226 what in the fuck. Someone just burn that whole tree down and start over.

[@FloridaCrigger]

The intro video when you start a new game, plus the first trailer, basically give up some of these tidbits. You can see the black goop writhing out of Godwyn's body and his eye opens before rolling back, showing exactly that spread you mentioned. Though I think this was caused BY the corruption of the black knives + the fragment of death used to kill him. Godwyn becomes the prince of death against his own will. Homie is gonna make for a hell of a DLC boss.

[@postal3412]

Based Goldmask is the ending I'm going for in NG+, but this storyline is super cool. Underrated lore channel, looking forward to more

[@arturkushukov1815]

I wonder if we can slay Corhyn before he spergs out and kills Goldmask for heresy.

[@andrewbowen2837]

I got that ending on my first run

[@MeowLesty]

Just got the Goldmask ending and also got the rune of death only to have Fia killed by D and T-pose on her dead body

[@sleepyshaman94]

@@riccardozorzetto she kills D you bring the dagger to his brother

[@battlericky17]

Was not expecting goldmask to be where he was just chillin lol. Hes awesome

[@Solitaryparadise99]

17:09 I love how you can hear Ds brother smiling ear to ear in this voiceline. The voice actor did a great job with him

[@heisehao]

Godwyn's mutated form now lives rent free in my nightmare

[@LastSecBloomer]

Ranni definitely planned for someone to die along her. I assume she only told Marika a part of her plan, the part where she kills herself in order to defy the Fingers and Marika, who wasn't happy with the Golden Order, agreed to help her with obtaining the Rune of Death from Maliketh (hence why some items state that Marika betrayed Maliketh). What Ranni DIDN'T tell Marika, though, is that Godwyn was supposed to perish as well. Or maybe it wasn't supposed to be Godwyn at all but someone else, we don't know. Either way, he died and Marika, who didn't expect that she would have a hand in death of her favorite son, snapped and shattered the Ring (which Ranni may or may not have planned, that too is tricky)... I doubt that Marika knowingly arranged and intended for Godwyn to die, there was no reason for that, it makes no sense. I believe that her ties to Numen and the assassin order were simply the means to provide Ranni with a way to die, no deeper scheme there, and Ranni somehow tricked some of the assassins into killing Godwyn too. That might explain why the assassins keep going after Ranni throughout the game - they too were deceived by her, along Marika, and wanted revenge. Our lunar princess is not a nice person...

[@ayandautimahmen9512]

This is extremely intresting; you've just provided a perspective that ties many of the loose ends quite nicely.

[@TheConspiratorist]

Ranni cared for nothing else other than to separate her soul from flesh. If there was something greater planned, I highly doubt she would have remained hidden for however many eons she did, disguising herself as Ranni the Witch, no less. And she seems less than pleased about the way the realm has decayed over time. This coincides with her mentioning how she wishes to rid the realm of the Greater Will's influence. It doesn't really make sense that she planned Godwyn's death or Marika's madness. Her association with the assassins was only to produce a blade capable of "killing" a god, which she ended up using on herself, then simply vanishing and going into hiding, cutting contact with the rest of the realm. It's highly unlikely she was involved with the plot to kill Godwyn or any plot to bring about the end of the golden order.

[@LastSecBloomer]

@@TheConspiratorist I'm inclined to think so as well, the JP translations portray her as much less ruthless than EN lines, more interested in her own vision that tearing down the Golden Order (though, she doesn't hide her hatred for it). But that leaves the question who was supposed to be the other recipient of the cursemark of death, because it appears that if she was to receive the full one, she would have suffered true death, in both flesh and soul. For her plan to work, someone else had to die as well. Unless we misunderstand the whole cursemark, death and separating flesh and soul thing... On the other hand, if there was a separate plan to have Godwyn killed, the only one who could have done it is Marika, and that opens a whole other can of worms. I don't know, maybe we have to accept that Ranni is not so innocent. One more thing: Ranni was a Carian princess. Whether Rennala was her birthmother or stepmother, it must have been painful for her to watch Rennala lose her mind over Radagon's betrayal and she had Marika to thank for that. So, that's another strong reason to fool Marika and have Godwyn killed. I don't think she expected Marika to go as far as to shatter the Ring, though, I think that caught her by surprise...

[@brentgarrison6245]

I don't agree. I don't think Ranni chose Godwyn at all, I think Marika did. The Black Knife Assassins are all Numen like Marika. They came to the Lands Between with her. And one guards her bedchamber before you face Morgott. They still serve Marika, even now. Then there is her ideology. We know what Ranni's is because she tells us (even if it's completely spoiled by awful translation and makes her look evil when she's actually out for the greater good in every way that counts). But what was Marika's? What was her cause, her ambition? Look at her dialogue, via Melina, at the Battleground Site of Grace in the Capital Outskirts. Look at the ideology and fate of the Crucible Knights, who once served Godfrey, First Elden Lord. It sure looks like Marika is a big time believer in personal growth and/or evolution through conflict and struggle. Marika breaks the Elden Ring specifically to bring about the Shattering. By tempting her children with fragments of power in hopes that they will clash to claim the rest. She knows she'll be imprisoned or destroyed for her actions by the Greater Will, taking her and Radagon off the table. Why kill Godwyn? Probably because he was the literal Golden Child. The perfect heir. Maybe he can end any conflict merely by asserting his rightful claim. By removing him, you not only help hide what Ranni has done (killing her body to escape the Two Fingers' control), but you remove the greatest potential obstacle to all hell breaking loose. Which very much appears to have been what Marika intended when she broke the Elden Ring.

[@patrickkinnear8625]

This makes a lot of sense.

[@arturkushukov1815]

Interesting how Ranni only ever admits to forging the black blades but not of slaying Godwyn. And how black knife assassins come after her later.

[@ethanbuckley6364]

They don’t go after her. She sends them to kill her crew so that she has no loose ends.

[@finnhawkas891]

@@ethanbuckley6364 where did you read that? i've heard a lot of conflicting ends about it

[@nowelk4110]

She forged the blades but it was Rykard that send the Black Knives. The Blasphemous claw, you can get if you kill bernhal at Farum Azula while he is invading you, is a item that can deflect the death power of Maliketh. The description say that it was a reward to Rykard from ranni, to counter Maliketh, if one day their plot was revealed.

[@drointhewind480]

I think she used them as a smoke screen, which is why they are pissed at her

[@finnhawkas891]

@@drointhewind480 thats what i thought, it would be out of character for her to kill her closest

[@ZephyrusAsmodeus]

Takes a lot to unnerve me, the 'corpse' of Godwyn unnerves me

[@20thcentury_toy]

Have you looked at the sky during the dragon fight?

[@ZephyrusAsmodeus]

@@20thcentury_toy Yes! Holy crap that was incredible, I was freaking out while me and my friends were fighting lol

[@desgangres5360]

@@20thcentury_toy How does it look? I’m curious since I didn’t noticed on my first playthrough and couldn’t find anything online

[@A.Aldhaheri]

@@20thcentury_toy which of the dragons

[@twiinsanitygaming9987]

@@A.Aldhaheri I believe Dragonlord Placidusax

[@wilburforce8046]

It sucks how many people misunderstand Fia and label her as evil because she killed D. When in reality she’s just doing her best to save all the lost souls in a world that hates her.

[@user-bz6gh5ng2m]

So Godwyn doesn’t get to die if he becomes a rune, but this allows everyone else to be able to die so nobody has to live in death anymore? But the golden order doesn’t want to die so they want Godwyn to die a true death so that nobody can bring death back? I feel like I’m getting this wrong

[@teratoma.]

i hope she sees this bro

[@Rafungilo]

I’ve noticed most of the npcs have a Nobel cause. Their plans just don’t always agree. The only straight up shitty guy is the dung eater and the frenzied lord ending is blatantly evil

[@wilburforce8046]

@@user-bz6gh5ng2m basically the golden order is stupid and has no solution because they’ve always been a pawn to the greater will who has not shared its plans for the future. Fia actually has a solution, which is giving all the zombies a proper death through the new lord of death (Godwyn or perhaps you the player)

[@wilburforce8046]

@@teratoma. meanwhile Ranni simps pretending she didn’t orchestrate a brutal murder and worked with Rykard of all people.

[@CNNBlackmailSupport]

The flaw is that half of the rune of death is active. It isn't complete, therefore people couldn't really die even if it was plugged back in. The rune of death itself was broken, which shouldn't have been possible.

[@hepcat9528]

To add to this, it's specifically the deathroot which forces anyone that comes into contact with it to live in death.

[@Frank-kq4te]

Did you finish the game? Because the player eventually knows about the rune of death and its state. The half cursemark is not the runeof death.

[@CNNBlackmailSupport]

@@Frank-kq4te both halves are the rune of death when combined. Ranni has half on her body, Godfrey has half on his... back, I guess, but who knows where it is now that he is a mutant monster. Undeath isn't not the same thing as no death. Basically, real death involves your golden light going back to the erd tree. Breaking the rune of death in half screws that all up, so they have to send people back manually with their physical bodies being reabsorbed. That's what the pot guys do. Destined Death means "back to the erd tree, where the power came from originally." (It's a circle of life, or RING)

[@Frank-kq4te]

@@CNNBlackmailSupport Pal you are confusing things a little bit. A fragment of the rune of death stolen from Maliketh was used to create the knives with wich Ranni and Godwyn were killed by carving a cursemark into their flesh. This mark was supposed to appear as a whole circle in the body of the first demigod to die. But it was split in half because two died at the same time, one died in body, one in soul. At the end of fia's quest you get the entire hallowbrand, wich is the rune carved into their bodies to kill them. The half rune you keep referring is this hallowbrand or cursemark, not the rune of death. The rune of death is unleashed into the world at the end of the game and has its very specific form. The rune of death is currently with maliketh until you defeat him. Destined Death is not what you think, it's the very opposite of what you just said and here's why: in the current eldenring, the rune of death is absent since Marika removed it and gave it to Maliketh to preserve it, doing so she removed death from the cycle of life and every being gets sent into the erdtree to reborn into its gold ray. The undeath is caused by the corpse of Godwyn that spreads the undeath trough the erdtree roots thathe has contaminated. Destined death is death without being reborn into the erdtree, is just absolute and everlasting death of body and soul. I hope it's more clear for you now.

[@TheConnorMclaughlin]

@@Frank-kq4te i subscribe to all of this except i'm under the impression the rune of death is stolen and wasnt returned to maliketh. When you defeat him, you dont get any great rune. What makes you think he still has the death rune the whole time untill the player defeats him?

[@nowelk4110]

I dont know if you know but if you kill bernhal when he invade you at farum azula he will give you an item, the blasphemous claw, that Can deflect maliketh power. The description reads that ranni gave the claw to Rykard during the night of the black knives as a reward, to defend himself against maliketh, if the truth of their plot was found. So she is the one behind all of this. Dont forgot that rennala's children dont seems to like marika descendants. (Sorry for the bad english)

[@joelmichaelviado1226]

Renalla probably isnt fond of Marika either.

[@MeowLesty]

@@joelmichaelviado1226 Considering Radagon basically cucked her to go Marry Marika and get fused together with her... yeah... i wouldnt like Marika either

[@naneyezgani]

Rennala's children are Marika's children as well, since Marika and Radagon are one and the same being, just different sides.

[@nowelk4110]

@@naneyezgani yes but they are still 2 very different people and that's why radagon tried to repair the elden ring after marika destroyed it

[@BreakingTheGleipnir]

@@MeowLesty Yeah and they didnt fuse after that. they already were 1 being but could split

[@Athanatarch]

Overall fantastic video, but I can’t help but feel people keep misunderstanding the Duskborn ending. It is patently NOT an era of destined or proper death, but of LIFE WITHIN DEATH. It is an era where the undead become part of the natural order and there is no sacred immortality for some and eternal death for others. Unless the rune Fia birthed went WAY off track, there is no way a woman who specializes in bringing the dead back to life would want death to simply be “back to normal”.

[@mochimochi4179]

Yea that's actually what I thought it meant, reinstating the cycle of life and death. Still, going by what you said and what the video is saying, if undeath is a state caused essentially by the erdtree's unequal treatment of people, then making undeath a norm would be more equal than what we currently have.

[@ZeFourmis]

@@mochimochi4179 Depends on what you call "undeath". If by "undeath" you mean "not dying" then it's because Marika gave the Rune of Death to Maliketh, specifically to prevent people from dying (or at least, I assume that's why). It is, I think, her first attempt to derail the plans of the Greater Will, that siphon the souls of the deads through the Erdtree. If by "undeath" you mean "being an undead creature, aka skeleton or zombies" it is a direct byproduct of Godwyn's death : his assassination by the use of the black blade birthed the flowers that rises the dead from beyond the grave.

[@mochimochi4179]

So I had an epiphany that while we always obtain the rune of death in order to kill Marika regardless of ending, there's no confirmation that we too use the rune of death in the reforging of the elden ring. The fact that we don't need to have all possible great runes to reassemble the elden ring, the fact that we have a choice of a mending rune, implies to me that we can actually choose to just not use it. The age of fracture is supposed to be a shoddy attempt at returning things to the way they used to be before the shattering, aka the age of the erdtree with marika's golden order. So how does it make sense that Fia would want to restore death? Simple- undeath is unnatural, because DEATH is unnatural. Usually things get reincarnated by the erdtree, and although not explicitly mentioned I would assume that souls rejected by the erdtree for reincarnation probably aren't lamented. If I'm not wrong what Fia wants is to bring back the natural life cycle but with an added touch of optional immortality, the way it is in the world outside of TLB.

[@Myosuke97]

@@mochimochi4179 Age of Fracture is basically ours cycle of life and death (you live you die), Duskborn seems to be one to freely accept skelly wheelies shopping on the market, Goldmask is the same Golden Order, Despair is basically a shit show.

[@dugan8786]

While most youtube channel focus on best builds and hidden secrets you just dont see many videos dedicated to the story of the game so thank you for this. I tried to peice small bits of lore while playing but it's so hard putting a story together on ur own which is one if the many things I appreciate that From software does. You earned a sub from me!

[@archangelgabriel8493]

That's because Vaati is so lost in the game he can't pull himself out to talk about it lol

[@joshuavanzuydam5044]

This is great until Vaati gets his head in the lore

[@JimboCruntz]

@@joshuavanzuydam5044 vaati usually waits a month or two and then does a giant overarching lore/main story video. Then he starts the prepare to cry stuff. This guy has just managed to get in ahead of vaati and I'm here for it 😂.

[@fantomeduchateaux8136]

Oh this channel is great, so this comment is no negative. The community loves lore and enviromental storytelling, people talks about Vaaty but there are a lot of channels exploring lore and designs, enviroments, textures. Maybe you already know them but check out The Lore Hunter, Zullie the Witch, Aegon of Astora (still has not updated on elden ring though), and progressively the more lore niche channels will appear. I love that this channel jumped on board of the Elden Lore ❤ FromSoftware worldbuilding is divine

[@logarius2178]

What Build videos? I only see rivers of blood

[@taekwonjeff]

these videos are exactly what i want! Not only do you explain the lore, you show the items that give the information

[@kushyramirez621]

Gotta give you props, i was expecting VaatiVidya to have more content out on Elden Ring by now. You have filled that hole very nicely

[@samantha8701]

He usually seems to take his time with these kind of videos, not to mention new info is still currently being found & categorized.

[@LoveHinaDude]

Sad to agree, but I do.

[@kushyramirez621]

@@samantha8701 obviously he will have some great videos in the years to come, but as of now the majority of his vids on elden ring are "tips and tricks" vids or "15 hidden mechanics" videos. If i wanted that kind of click baity content i would go to gameranx or outside xtra.

[@samantha8701]

​@@kushyramirez621 For sure his 2 recent videos have been purely tips & needed info. Suppose everyone has their own definition of clickbait, I find it to be utterly useless info, over exaggerated thumbnails or tittles that have nothing to do with the video. It least Vaati while hes taking his time with these types of videos his "top 15" videos actually have useful info especially for new players & Elden Ring has certainly seen a new influx of them. Never seen anyone compare some Vaati videos as clickbait as they are accurate & true to the description, so unless you are suggesting him just releasing quick Elden content as clickbait itself if thats the case you could almost say this video in & of itself is clickbait if you take everything into account, but to each their own.

[@kushyramirez621]

@@samantha8701 the videos are touching on surface level mechanics that are either explained with notes that can be bought from merchants or that you learn naturally through just playing the game a bit. If he was breaking ground on hidden features or things that nobody knew, it would be more substantive. I understand that research takes time, and he cant have the entire lore deciphered in a week, but it seems like hes just been posting filler content to keep the channel active. While channels such as the one we are commenting on are doing the deep dives that im looking for. Vaati does good work. Just suprised its taking him so long to do what he's actually good at.

[@envoyofrot7046]

Fia is definitely my favorite character in the Game. Such a kind, wholesome and selfless Soul with a strong sense of duty

[@jonnymario771]

Id love if in some dlc we face Godwyn and he just says hes the lord of all that is golden as if nothing happened to him, even as a sick undead abomination.

[@joelmichaelviado1226]

Wrong sibling

[@jonnymario771]

@@joelmichaelviado1226 Godrick is somewhat an impostor though xD

[@walmartian422]

I have a feeling the DLCs will revolve around godwyn and miquella.

[@lamarr51]

I really want the dlc to somehow make us revive Godwyn to his former self after beating his corrupted corpse, and then he becomes an npc in some castle

[@nanyafahkinbiznes1352]

Ranni and Fia's ending seems about right and not evil either. They aim to breach the wall of immortality that is basically torturing most of the living beings in the Lands Between the Golden Order has been subjugating and give them the chance to be free, live and die normally.

[@colorpg152]

I agree with Fia but ranni si evil

[@jasonlong6028]

@@colorpg152 i believe ranni’s ending in english was mistranslated, in the english it was something sort of bringing her own order to the lands between but in the Japanese ver it was taking her own order and herself away from the lands and let the mortals be free of will while she will tread the dark path alone with us for a thousand years or something like that

[@pablojavierhernandezcalder6243]

@@colorpg152 Ranni isn't evil, her philosophy is based on Nietzsche - allowing people, or in our case, all creatures of the lands between to be free. It's like scraping God from humanity, it may feel dark and lonely at first, but only then would people be free. Breaking the cycle that has been torturing everyone for far too long.

[@colorpg152]

@@pablojavierhernandezcalder6243 i know exactly what post that nonsense came from and let me tell you its completely wrong

[@drox6260]

@@colorpg152 care to elaborate?

[@paapa300]

Godwyn has a couple of traits in common with the Nameless King. Firstly, they were both sons of the first lords and secondly, they both fought dragons but eventually befriended one in particular.

[@Viper-py4pg]

Thank you for going in depth, showing the cutscenes, item lore and different dialogue choice outcomes. I appreciate a well-rounded/written/spoken video! Melina's moveset (summoned during Margitt fight I think?) is that of the Black Knife Assassins, Ranni's assassins were all women and looking into that lead me here. I understand Godwyn's fate now! Please consider making a video explaining Ranni, Melina, who they truly are, the Age of Stars ending and what it all means! I subbed and I'm sure as you keep explaining the lore more will come :3

[@prudesude9794]

So far the best lore content for Elden ring. I congratulate you and hope to see more

[@ajackass5950]

I'll be back after I beat the game. Thanks for putting out lore, it's my drug of choice.

[@zacharyleow3960]

Each of your ER videos are getting better and better. All super well thought out. I would spend less time focusing on tarnished and more on the surrounding world like you did this one but thats just me!

[@YP831]

God…DAMN this was good. From always kills it in the lore department and this was no different. I understood some aspects here and there during my normal play through but you cleared up and answered some questions and unclear parts for me. Very well done.

[@ChainsawGutsFuck]

I find it fascinating that Ranni dying only in body produces a predictable effect; she's now a spirit possessing a mannequin. But Godwyn dying in spirit and _not_ in body isn't something we're used to, and what we're shown is rather horrific... Godwyn's not there, but his body is and it's mutated into something very Junji Ito-esque. I loved it and was disgusted by it.

[@thebatmane2220]

Would love to see you do a video on Lord Placidusax, these are pretty cool and I’m learning a lot 🤙🏽

[@autonomousaccount9553]

These Elden Ring lore videos are well-made and will absolutely gain lot more viewers to your channel. Please feed us with the rest including my fav, Radahn. 👏👏👏

[@sytsmr]

Damn nice lore storytelling. This is something I've been looking for.

[@_emory]

I think Those who live in death “touching upon a flaw in the golden order” just means that since destined death was held captive, the souls of the dead essentially encountered a game breaking bug, not allowing them to pathfind to their resting place

[@simonwahlen7150]

Well it is a bug caused by Ranni and the night of the black knives. The sealing of the rune of death means that nobody truely dies and when they "die" they are buried and return to the erdtree to be reborn. The true killing of Ranni's body and Godwynn's soul means that neither Ranni's soul or Godwynns body can return to the erdtree and reincarnate. The failed burial of Godwynn spread through the erdtrees roots and thus those who live in death are physicaly not allowed to die even though their bodies are already dead.

[@TrvppedSxciety]

The fact that you explain the lore even better than the game itself is amazing, love your elden videos, keep the good work.

[@Aramythr]

I mean the whole FromSoft approach to storytelling is to withhold information and explain as little as possible with little bits of lore scattered around, leaving it to the players to make sense of it all. So if someone makes a lore video, for them to "explain the lore better than the game itself" is a given.

[@abreu7756]

please keep doing those videos, love em🙏🙏

[@user-vs3wz2vr7t]

Your way with words made me subscribe and turn on notifications. “The dragon prevents Godwyn’s fouls birth, so we must lay it low.”

[@ainzlol]

Absolutely love your Elden ring lore videos really well done keep it up! 👏

[@caloyskiTube]

More lore video YEY! Great work on your video about Miquella and Malenia.

[@CommieApe]

Really well done!

[@nightsage217]

the reference u recorded is perfectly done. I prefer this sort of style. more explored solid evidence

[@house1060]

D's brother really betrays the calm and resolute demeanor of D. D's brother was a loud mouthed zealot. I really couldnt bear to hear another word from him and immediately attacked, lmao.

[@walmartian422]

Hes like a reskinned allistair from bloodborne

[@placenta4850]

@@walmartian422 Alfred?

[@jamalisujang2712]

I guess the game is successful to invest you in that much, huh. Is it really THAT GOOD?

[@FadliYuuki]

@@jamalisujang2712 yes

[@TonkarzOfSolSystem]

@@jamalisujang2712 In terms of narrative, no. This poster is just a hothead who probably attacked most of the NPCs.

[@BjarkiStormun]

I have always interpreted that Ranni tricked the black knives and used them. Thats why they turn on her later.

[@John-uw2je]

Yeah Ranni hijacked the original plan that Rykard and Marika planned, and instead of doing what they wanted she said screw it and wanted to erase the golden order altogether.

[@TheConspiratorist]

@@John-uw2je Well, no. She only associated with the black knives in order to gain a weapon capable of killing her flesh. Anything else beyond that was not a concern she had, as she simply vanishes once the deed is done.

[@Turts_McGurts]

GREAT VIDEO!!

[@kintarusama]

Awesome vid 👍

[@asuramarutapes7007]

Verry interesting I didn't know that Godwin was a frend with fortisax and that he is the reason that the dragon Cult exist.

[@Bertogable]

dude, thanks for explaining the lore for us. I didn't noticed that the lore and story of this huge game is also huge (tarnished who's been busy dying and haven't read any descriptions from the menu)

[@michaelbeard4883]

Man these are some Vaati level lore vids amazing work

[@helpinghand6400]

Great stuff :)

[@millard681]

I really hope in the DLC we can fight Godwyn, either as his monstrous form or his human like form

[@fabianpino4910]

Good video for summing up the whole story, but I still don't understand why Godwyn has a squid as his face though, or what those squid things are in reality.

[@srmelancia3523]

Well rogier gets hit with deathblight its close to a squid face thingy and when godwyn died something started moving inside his body maybe there is some relation

[@dadevi]

Good question. Not much is revealed about his power, other than him being golden. Maybe he was a demigod of the waters, and his lack of soul after death changed his body into a more primordial form.

[@danilobrandao5953]

in the description of the knights of the crucible and the medallions of the crucible it says that they are primordial life forms and you can see by the medallion that they are kind of "chimeras". I think that when a god dies in soul the physical form returns to primordial form and therefore assumes this chimerical form.

[@TheWorldMaker]

My theory is Rykard was in on the assassination attempt (based on the blasphamous claw description) and what he got out of it was to be able to devour Godwyn. The great serpent was getting too big and had to sheath it off hence why it has a malformed serpent like appearance.

[@lukekane6123]

He mentioned in the video he is changing/ morphing into the prince of death. Hopefully a dlc fight

[@morax5015]

Good to see you start to grow arlun :)

[@AluinKali]

Came here for the Genshin content, stayed for the Elden Ring videos. Your videos answer so many questions I had in an entertaining way. Thanks a bunch.

[@icalculi]

God i hope we get to see an Elden Ring show/series, would be so cool

[@DaLoler1]

"Honeyed rays of gold deliver my spirit" Sounds to me like D 's brother is about to die. Also his sword's weapon art is a golden wave so there is the possibility of suicide.

[@dumbsterdives]

If you attack Darian outside the Summonwater Village, he says "Honeyed rays of gold, deliver this spirit" before attacking. It seems to be a prayer to the erdtree to accept the spirit of the dead for rebirth, so yeah safe to say he kills himself after you leave, if him talking about how he now has no regrets and can look Darian in the eye didn't already make that clear enough.

[@papasweed.dispenseria5977]

love the lore videos

[@BoredHermit]

Nice one! 👍👍👍

[@Malisteen]

My reading is that the Mending Rune of the Death Prince brings life in death, an age of the undead - though perhaps with their souls intact - not true natural death. That is instead embodied in the Rune of Death which Maliketh reforged within his own body by consuming Deathroot, and the mending rune which governs the default 'age of fracture' ending - hence requiring completion of Faram to get the normal ending instead of the game letting you bypass the Erd Tree's wall of thorns as soon as you burn it.

[@NobleSix-my6ot]

I don't think that is what it means kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6ikqmRop692p5Y this video does a really good job in explaining it but basically it takes away immortality from the lands between so nobody not even gods can rule forever

[@benfawefwaeffwaefawfdekk2080]

Yeah I agree. The fingermaiden talks about how death has returned to the lands between after slaying maliketh, which means if the only goal of the death prince's rune is to return death to the land, we beat him to the punch regardless of ending.

[@NobleSix-my6ot]

@@benfawefwaeffwaefawfdekk2080 we just take possession of an old part of the rune but we don’t actually have the full rune fia created a new part to go with ranni and we have to insert the rune into the elden ring which can’t be done in the normal ending

[@maggot848]

But the golden order already has undead people? It's just not seen as normal or good and they're hunted down

[@benfawefwaeffwaefawfdekk2080]

@@maggot848 the golden order as seen in elden ring is flawed, leading to the production of undead. If you fix the golden order through gold masks ending, you fix the flaws of it, one of which is the creation of undead, which you learn through rogier are produced due to a flaw, as their souls are not allowed to return to the erdtree

[@ivorymantis1026]

I also believe it had to have been Godwyn (over Morgott and Mohg for example). Godwyn, firstly is a male demigod and Ranni is female. The Cursemark of Death (in it's completion) looks similar to a YinYang, thus I speculate that a male target of equal bearing must have been chosen. I would also speculate that it had to be Godwyn simply because he's also Ranni's Stepbrother by definition, and the only stepbrother of equal footing that isn't cursed.

[@kobragaming9420]

Half brother*

[@putent9623]

Also mohg and morgot were in sewers and no one other than Godfrey and merika actually knew they existed, the twins only left the sewers after godwyn had died. But then what about godrick, supposedly he was sick and pretty weak for a god but honestly I still feel like he would of been perfectly usable as well.

[@putent9623]

Also what about radahn, he comes from the same father as ranni unlike godwyn who comes from merika (who is radagon but still). And radahn is definitely on equal footig or higher. Or maybe I'm not understanding what you mean by equal footing.

[@kobragaming9420]

@@putent9623 Godrick isn’t Godfreys son he’s a descendant of Godfrey down the line and he wasn’t blessed with the golden orders strength

[@Terminalsanity]

Funny thing about that I suspect Ranni was actually mislead about the target. I think whoever commanded the Black Knifes (we know it was not Ranni because they try and kill and her faction once she slays her 2 fingers) told Ranni that Radahn was the target as if he had arrested the stars at that point she would need to take him out to realize her ambitions. They took out Godwyn instead to distablize the order and sideline Ranni at the same time. I think the primary unnamed conspirator there was none other than Miquella I don't think its coincidence that its Black Knife Assassins who were guarding secret entrance to the Haligtree or that you find a bunch of Numen runes there.

[@TheAzmdain]

I love this lore videos you earn my sub for this toppics

[@amorimjt]

So happy to see you receiving recognition for your hard work. You are so talented.

[@Danil_JRK]

If elden ring ever has a DLC i do hope we get a godwyn fight or interaction with him

[@NobleSix-my6ot]

If we get a DLC I’m almost 100% it will be miquella

[@princesilenceteddy3114]

I kinda suspect that it's time travel DLC like Artorias to Abyss. Where we lead black knife to assassinate Godwyn.

[@whychi53]

@@princesilenceteddy3114 same. I suspect it'll be in mohgs room

[@oneoddmex]

Rogier and ranni go into a deep slumber at the same time, I find that to be no coincidence. That’s where I’m currently at in the game so idk if that gets explained but I need to know if that’s connected or if im overthinking lol

[@facts1990]

Unrelated i think. Ranni slumbers because its exhausting to puppeteer her body while Rogier falls into sickliness from studying the rotten flesh of Godwyn in Godrick's castle

[@SunBro95]

At least someone done some lore about godwyn, thanks

[@andrewhte9304]

Loved that dragon fight at the end

[@GoldenDaemonas]

ranni dying in body and godwyn dying in soul is due to each one having one half of the rune of death, as it seems that both halves have to be for the rune to be complete and take effect (hence why they die at the same time). so it could be that the reason godwyn was killed was because ranni wanted to lose her empyrean body but needed a soul to die alongside her body. also have you noticed that basilisks (idk what they are called in this game), look a lot like godwyn corpse (specially the eye, since their eyes were somewhere else in darksouls)? another observation ive made is that the dead giants atop the mountaintops of giants seemed to have died from the "death" effect (being impaled by a thorny spear sprouting from the ground). i personally couldnt make much of this other than that marika couldve used the rune of death against the giants in the war(since i read somewhere that she "cursed" the giants)

[@mduckernz]

The curse in question was that they had to guard the Fire of Ruin forever. I'm unsure of whether this is the same thing as the Fire of Frenzy. They don't look the same nor do all the derived fire spells all cause Frenzy, but perhaps they're nonetheless related somehow

[@melekbasri1575]

Nope, doing Sellen quest we can see how the Mages put their souls in the dolls made by Selluvis. And this is exactly how Ranni made it. If she wouldn't made it, she would be death in soul just like Godwyn

[@GoldenDaemonas]

@@melekbasri1575 then why did godwyn body not die like rannis?

[@melekbasri1575]

@@GoldenDaemonas Because Godwyn didn't transfer his souls to a doll...

[@M10art]

So basically Fia’s ending is a “normal” ending where you can create a order of things as it always should be: live and destined death in the end. No more living dead like tarnished ones, skeletons, zombies and other undead creatures

[@NobleSix-my6ot]

that is my interpretation

[@elmRoz]

Or it normalized Those Who lived in Death, making them not curse being but just another kind of people like trolls and humans

[@NobleSix-my6ot]

@@elmRoz kzbin.info/www/bejne/j6ikqmRop692p5Y This video I think does a really good job in explaining it as well as the gloam-eyed queen and the godskin apostles

[@semberspirit]

That doesn't make sense. Fia wants to protect and preserve Those Who Live in Death, meaning the undead. Restoring Destined Death would mean restoring the natural cycle of life and death, meaning no more undead, which is the opposite of what Fia wants.

[@cloberlobster2276]

@@semberspirit are you sure?

[@Fate025]

Thanks for the video! This explains a lot! I've been trying to piece together the lore of Godwyn and his relationship with the Prince of Death, which should have been his body. But couldn't figure out why he's the prince of Death if his soul is dead.

[@gibbzster]

More lore vids pls. Excellent content and research. Just as good as Vaatividya.

[@Tycholarfero]

D's brother does not kill Fia, she is not asleep. If you reload the area after you pick up the rune, you can get her clothes, she is dead at that moment. D's brother just stabs a corpse, nothing more.

[@a.f.7650]

7:18 What do you mean the flaw is unknown? It's right there - Golden Order is a construct dependant on the cycle of life which it straining to replicate and fail miserably, since if you remove just one tiny component of the cycle, whole Order crumbles down with no alternative but destruction.

[@darkkfireking2268]

Love this videos

[@HappyFT2]

At the church of pilgrimage there is a ghost that says "the mausoleum prowls. Cradling the souless demigod, O Marika Queen Eternal, He is your unwanted child" so maybe marika killed him after all

I really don't think the age of the dusk born is about returning true death to the lands between. Dusk born to me sounds more like life after death, and the age of the dusk born would mean the end of the persecution against those who live in dead.

[@BreakingTheGleipnir]

The Deathbed simp vs. the Golden Order chad

[@jo1italianstyle]

Swiping the board clean with the frenzied flame seems the best one.

[@justimagine2403]

Well this is a downer during my morning coffee!

[@riwab729]

I still do not understand why it was Godwyn who had to die, why not another demigod, and still do not understand why Ranni did all of this, why did she murder Godwyn in such a dreadful way and cause the Shattering, she literally brought chaos and terror to the Lands Between just in order to free herself out of the Greater Will, it's insane.

[@silenthero2795]

Godwyn seems to represent the biggest threat to maintaining the Golden Order post-Shattering. Miquella was nowhere to be found; Malenia and Radahn crippled each other; Rykard was still "weak" according to Lady Tanith; and Godrick is, well, Godrick. Ranni doesn't actually did all of this. She just forged the blades with the rune of death and let the assassins do what they want - which is to break the Golden Order. Whoever demi-gods they chose to assassinate, Ranni would be free from her Empyrean form and the Greater Will's influence.

[@accelerationquanta5816]

It's based. Freedom is worth any price.

[@commanderpuffy1014]

Interesting, there is one thing ive always wondered, what is that visage below Stormveil is it an imitation of Godwyn as his undead body festers, he appears to biting on an Erdtree root, could this be an after effect?

[@hopebringer2348]

That's confusing me too

[@justarandomuser8434]

his real body, the fish thing, is infecting the erdtree because of the rune of death. that face in stormveil is an offshoot caused by the infection. the infection is also whats causing the undead in the lands between. i think they should have put more of them in the game to show how far the infection actually has spread instead of just one in stormveil.

[@commanderpuffy1014]

@@justarandomuser8434 Ahhh right I thought so thanks for confirming!

[@kevinpaap2890]

@@justarandomuser8434 they sort of do. At the end of all the catacombs, and Graves of Soldiers, after their bosses there are corrupted tree roots with people’s corpses intertwined with roots, and some of these rooms give Deathroots as rewards. I think these are the souls of people in the Lands Between, who once their soul is separated from their bodies, they return to the Erdtree roots, and rather than being reborn or whatever, they essentially rot and materialize in the roots like that

[@Bahador.B]

Very nice video my friend. 👍

[@_The_God_King_]

I really enjoy this type of content. All the pieces are there but I felt they were so spread out during the gameplay (in a way that felt organic to a living world but very vague for a narrative) That is was hard to keep track of all of these people places, things, and their connections to different events. Dont even get me started on how many names start with M and why that was annoying XD

[@cesarzepeda8291]

Remember we are a tarnished revived from the dead to an unknown world for both the player and your character.

[@osamamoh5390]

my theory is with the twins is that the only one who can be active at a time is the one wearing the armor i say that because in my second playthrough i wanted to see their face so i thought that if i didn't give him the armor he will appear without and kill but he never actually shows up and she remains a sleep , so i thought that perhaps the game is bugged or the secret of the twins is the armor .

[@JMrealgamer]

If it wasn’t for the Grace of the Erdtree we couldn’t even save, or strengthen ourselves by getting stronger. I always keep that in mind. First ending I do will be that which favors the Erdtree.

[@tiagogibbon3386]

Then get the goldmask ending

[@koruzhuv2.087]

Rince and repeat the same mistake again and again in an dying world. Just like kindleling the flame in DS1 and 3

[@1810jeff]

@@koruzhuv2.087 Yeah the whole point is that the current ruler Marika wanted to maintain their era forever so they removed death from the elden ring. It's very obvious that the erdtree is an abomination to the natural order which can be seen by how the whole lands between seems to be in a state of slowly decaying and how the Marika bloodline was being cursed as a sign that their reign would end soon.

[@citizensnips475]

@@koruzhuv2.087 Genuinely curious if that's true. Everything I've seen suggests the pre shattering era was a golden age, at least for humans, and that it wasn't natural entropy that ruined things, but the (probably) Ranni instigated night of black knives which led to the shattering. Keep in mind, the shattering isn't a super recent event by the time the game starts. I'd actually be a bit annoyed if they're going with the exact same plot about cycles they used in Dark Souls. Just make DS4 if they don't want to change anything.

[@koruzhuv2.087]

@@citizensnips475 marika already ruined it by removing death rune and give it to maliketh make her eternal, making war to everyone that have different believe with the golden order (literally just like another dictator out there irl), all her children get curse by it (except Godwyn i believe) and her other self Radagan also curse by the giant. and that happen before ranni even born

[@Lord-Darkness]

This ending was sick love the dragon

[@MultiQwasar]

Pls continue making those. Cover all main bossem stories pls

[@TheoJay615]

If the DLC has Godwyn (alive and in his prime) riding Fortissax, that fight is gonna give Nameless King a run for his money.

[@itsyahomiescott3742]

I’d rather Godwyn be an ally, but that would be cool.

[@themonolith253]

Honestly Godwyn’s fate is grotesque. First his soul is murdered by his own sister because she wanted to be free from the Greater Will, then his vegetable body is dumped at the bottom of the Erd Tree roots where it somehow mutates from a shining golden prince into a rotted weird clam/fish thing. All while still technically alive on body but not soul. And Fia wants this to be the new norm? No thank you. The fact Godwyn’s friend Fortissax despite being corrupted by the power of death, still defended him from Fia and us in the dream shows that he doesn’t want his friend coming back as the Prince of Death. IMO this is one of the worst endings next to frenzied flame.

[@stevsux4442]

The item description for the ending near literally states that it is mending the elden ring with the rune and restoring death which was stolen to create the Golden Order. I really dont know where this "Fia ending is making skeletons and monsters a normal thing" the ending even shows the erdtree in ashes. People coming back to life was already the norm, its the whole point of the Golden Order and everyones respawn mechanic lmao

[@jshirato]

^ This is one of the main reasons (along with her murder of D and the impression that Godywn wouldn't have wanted this for himself/it goes against what Fortissax was trying to do for him) that I really can't bring myself to like Fia, tbh. Like... I don't agree with the Golden Order's unsympathetic approach towards Those Who Live in Death (because it probably isn't their fault that they ended up becoming shambling zombies) and some of the specifics of D's brother's angry rant at Fia were just unnecessary, but I also can't agree with Fia's goals or take on things, or disagree with D and his brother's opposition to her and the existence of Those Who Live in Death/can't say I agree with the take that the Golden Order, however flawed, is all bad either. But that's just my unsolicited (and admittedly kind of salty) opinion.

[@accelerationquanta5816]

". All while still technically alive on body but not soul." Dunno why that's supposed to be an issue. If his soul is dead, he's not bothered by whatever is going on with his body, since he no longer exists. It's purely irrational to care what happens to your corpse after you are dead.

[@shizzlestickx]

Godwyn's story mirrors Baulder's from Norse mythology with a more hopeless tone it seems. You could even say that Marika resembles Odin (self sacrifice for power) and Radagon being a possible giant kin and aspect of Marika resembles Loki. Hell Godfrey as a barbarian God of War with a redemption arc sounds like Thor through and through

[@herohonda4183]

D doesn’t have the rune of death automatically. He explicitly tells us the first time we meet him(after killing the boat-ghost boss) that the rune of death is in that village, he probably finds it and then goes to the round table hold. If the guy didn’t even know this then I’m concerned about how many other information might be wrong in this video

[@YourWhiteHawk]

No, he knows death root is there. Not the rune of death.

[@herohonda4183]

@@YourWhiteHawk you have to talk to him after you kill the boat ghost. He will then talk about the rune of death being in that village

[@nilspochat8665]

This dude didn't wait and asked where vaati at when you need him and made content for us asap. 10/10 would devouwer the gerds tergether

[@aranthur]

Very interesting video! I've been putting off watching anything about the lore until I finished the game for the first time, and now I've finally done it, I am so ready to dig in and come up with my own theories For instance, my current theory for why Godwyn was killed in the first place is....... because he was secretly Ranni's twin brother??? Twins/other halves are a big theme in the game after all, and as far as we know, Ranni is the only Empyrean without anything really resembling one. So what if... all Empyreans are born with a twin, and the two twins are mostly independent but also to some degree the same person. One soul in two bodies, like D. After all, the only way for new Empyreans to be born is for an Empyrean to somehow have a child without any other parent, right? Maybe that is a way of saying having a child with their own soul-twin So if any of that is true, Ranni must have a twin as well, as she is definitely an Empyrean. And who better to be the secret twin of the Daughter of the Moon than the Golden Son himself? It would explain why the Night of Black Knives ended in both of their deaths, as her goal was to free her soul from a physical form to protect it from the influence of the Outer Gods. If her soul was SHARED with Godwyn, then she would have to kill both herself AND him to truly be free It is their two halves of the centipede mark that end up making a whole rune in the end, is it not?

[@fimblebimble902]

Small detail I don’t know if you missed but the rune of death spread through the “greattree” not the erdtree, root resin’s decsription also makes mention of it as a completely seperate entity

[@grimnir8872]

My theory: the Black Knife Assassins were working for Marika, as both she and the Assassins were Numen and thus outside the scope of the greater Will; The Endings of Both Ranni and Godwyn both circumvent the greater will "Freeing" everyone from their grasp Just as Marika wanted.

[@sirrealism7300]

Its explicitly stated in an item description that the black knife assassins are from Nox, and disagree with the golden order.

[@Clarity_Control]

@@sirrealism7300 Seems someone didn’t bother reading item descriptions

[@totallykurapika166]

I dunno why a lot of people in the comunity are trying to "wash" ranni's actions saying that it was marika the one behiden the Night of the Black knives . Admit it, she plotted with her Fingers to kill the soul of his step-brother just so she could betray the same fingers, kill her body and be free from the influence of the greater will. Marika had nothing to do with the black knives, it was all planned by Rannie and her fingers.

[@thedarkgenious7967]

So here's the thing; Ranni plotted against her Fingers; they were instruments of the Greater will, after all, and she actually murders them as part of her quest. though I could see Goddwyn's death being her fault though, since it seems that if she hadn't had him "killed" at the same time as she killed her body and freed her spirit, she'd have likely died fully and been screwed.

[@grimnir8872]

@@totallykurapika166 I'm not, I am more implying that Marika was the one orchestrating everything all along. She wants an end without the Greater Will.

[@educhi05]

Why the hell did Godwin became a squid :((((

[@homerlol9058]

Miyazaki We need answers

[@sumitkhadgi4943]

He played bloodbourne??

[@officeimpact6377]

Wait what? I thought I saw a mermaid tail

[@brendancoulter5761]

I think all the gods are crazy shape shifters. Marika transforms into a dude and back on the regular, Ronni went to great lengths to kill herself, rather then be transformed into something else by the 2 fingers, and of course godwin turned into, what ever he is now. Hell it would not surprise mke if the gods and the 2 fingers were actually 2 different stages of life of the same wierd species. All the towers are topped with the body of a deceased 2 fingers, except for one toped with Ronni's old body. Why put the body of a god where normally only the bodies of 2 fingers are located? Well what if the gods and 2 fingers are one in the same.

[@kay1364]

@@officeimpact6377 definitely saw some tentacles

[@thegatorhator6822]

I managed to get the Fia ending without seeing ANY of this, just had the cursemark from the byproduct of doing the Ranni stuff and Fia was at Godwyn.

[@beyondz55]

absolutely amazing, i love beating FromSoft games and THEN researching the lore before new game+. GOTY by far.

[@user-zp8kj2cl9g]

Ok, but whats up whit the albinaurics? And the red glintsone? What are the Eternal cities and the giant womans in the thrones and the clayfolks? What's the relationship between the Elden Beast, the Crucible and the Eardtree? Why Placidusax's death created the storm beyond time? Why was Maliketh guarding the Rune of Death? Why the ancient dragons attacked the capital? What are the three fingers? And what in the god damned are the Astel stars?