Short Turkish Biocomposite Bow by Grozer - Review

[@tammynfletcher]

Another pretty bow! Grozer bows are beautiful and they have that historic shape I look for in a bow! And they perform awesome, thanks for another great review my friend!

[@UTxTheArchangel]

Grozer always hits it out the park it seems. That bow looks stunning, what great paint work. As always great review. Hope to one day own a Grozer bow, his bows looks like works of art both visually and in use.

[@Marcfasel]

We all know why there is no more bows from Grozer available on his website…..😅😅😅👍👍👍

[@Tebone6988]

Truly beautiful bow and thorough evaluation. As as always thank you so much for taking the time for your viewer always a treat.

[@matthewmaxcy1574]

Awesome BOW!! And this is why I said I love Grozers work and bows! And Armin those thumbs downs are usually people who have other channels and are "Haters" seeing your channel do so well... So pay them no "attention" we love your channel and you are hands down one of if not the" Best "channel yet! Thank you.

[@ambidextrousarchery]

I do not understand why the thumbs down option even exists. If someone doesn’t like a video, stop watching! 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@0ooTheMAXXoo0]

Holy crap that seems amazing. I have noticed how my laminated Turkish, ottoman style bow loves a short draw with a lighter arrow... So snappy...

[@stevepulinka4154]

I suspect that Grozer leaves that seam on the back of the handle to represent the "matn", from which line, one can determine if their hand grip is positioned correctly. See pages 70-73 in Adam Swoboda's "The Art of Shooting a Short Reflexed Bow" for examples. Thank you Armin, for another great video - you are a major source of entertainment for me!

[@sharps6]

That is my favorite bow in my collection but recently picked up a Simsek Hybrid S+ and have really enjoyed shooting it the past few weeks.

[@agamagreen]

What a beautiful bow! Very nice shape, colors and the painting is just excellent! Drawing up to 30“ is fine for me 😁 Definitely another bow on the wishlist for next year 😇 Thank you so much for the review, Armin! 🙏

[@fiatcampagnolaadventures]

Thank you Armin, I asked you the test of this bow and you done it in very few time. Mine is 50#28", and thanks to the thicker limbs, it is more resistant to twisting than the one 39 lbs you tested. If I may allow some advice: to arm such short bows, or with very pre-curved shapes or made in natural materials, to avoid any kind of twisting and to allow both limbs to bend equally, use a string ring (I use a damper band with a knot) of about 20 cm in diameter that you put on the ankle of the left foot and put the tip of the arch there instead of putting it in the cavity of the instep. In fact, I noticed that the bow was badly armed with a strong asymmetry and some torsion. I use 850 grain arrows, mainly for hunting use and with extremely advanced FOC (Grizzlystick), and seeing the images in slow motion, mine always fly perfectly straight with khatra without any contact to the center of the bow and, perhaps thanks to the high weight, they greatly raise the bow performance with 53/54 # to 30 ", they travel on 170 fps. For the rest I agree with all your test, even mine slightly flexes on the handle and with such heavy arrows it is super silent and without any vibration. A greeting and thanks again for the interesting test.

[@EREBO95]

Almost 16 gpp and you're getting 170fps?

[@fiatcampagnolaadventures]

@@EREBO95 yes, if my crono works well obviously.

[@ENIGMAXII2112]

Lovely bow, lovely gardens/ range. And very good video/ talk...

[@OlivierNeu]

That bow is clearly in another category! Absolutely stunning design 🤩 Armin, can you please make the 'that's all folks' splash less loud. I listen with headphones and it's a lot louder than your speech. Your review is great as always 😍

[@ArminHirmer]

yeah I figured after, sorry....

[@tdws5754]

@@ArminHirmer hello

[@vitaliyselnitsyn6036]

These biocomposite are really fantastic. They are like living creatures requiring care and love (warming up before and after stringing, I guess and a very smooth and slow bending while strininging them up and especially while unstringing), which I like

[@sigmanarchery54]

That’s a great looking bow I hope to have one some day. Thank you sir for another great review. 👍🏼🏹🇺🇸

[@neimadperseus5892]

I love Biocomposite bow by Grozer, very nice production...

[@jpavlvs]

I have a Grozer and a Paragon. Both are terrific. Both makers back their bows up completely. Even YEARS after you buy one. Personal experience.

[@jinan_hwasal]

If he chuckled means that bow is gucci af 😆 in my country that bow same price as a motorcycle 🤣🤣🤣

[@jake4194]

Just under Bio composite Grozer has full leather wrapped bows around $390-$460, are these laminated bows or solid fiberglass? I seriously cant find an answer!

[@miguelveratraditionalarche9374]

Beautiful Bow 🏹 Nice shooting Armin. Thanks for the Sunday review. Enjoy the day. 👊😀

[@Alundrael]

Incroyable ;-) It's a very beautiful bow ! But compared to my Şimşek short Sipahi, all the Turkish bows seem sooo big! Even if in reality this one is just 6cm more... ;-)

[@ArminHirmer]

Hehe true

[@theatrenisha9345]

its lovely , a dream bow, thank you Master

[@dj3ecuador100]

Hi Armin, thanks you for everything that you do. I have improved my archery due to all your videos and advice. I have one question… I have never seen you twist the string on any of the horse bows? Can you explain? Thanks in advance DJ

[@ArminHirmer]

twisting is an option, when I do a first review, I usually dont do it

[@jenjen7728]

My goodness such an ideal little bow, on my list!! That sleeve was beautiful as well, would like if Grozer could make me a dress out of that material. Thank you Armin!

[@ArminHirmer]

you can ask Csaba :)

[@dileb112]

Thank you for reviewing this bow! Love the shape, tillering and finish.

[@trevorjones7450]

Beautiful Bow!! I Love the Short Bows.. I have short arms. hahaha

[@jarodnaifeh4693]

I love that bow!

[@coultoncline5143]

I just bought this bow! How long do you wait for a bow from Grozer? First time buying one from Hungary.

[@Marcfasel]

Amazing bow for sure…:) one thing I noticed is that your bow come with all extra things include our not… (extra string, paint etc …) thanks Armin…🙏🙏🙏

[@ArminHirmer]

Paint is on order

[@davidlargen6945]

Awesome bow. Shoots great and is fast for size. Definitely a bow I would love to shoot

[@magyararcher7478]

Beautiful! The work of art!

[@xuzhiluo5168]

J'ai un Grozer bio turc short, je l'aime, je voudrais prendre un nouveau 70# dans quelques mois.

[@VladMcMerlin]

So snappy for a biocomposite one!

[@scetchport]

What i need for self defence. Bad neck and shoulders. Cross bow too slow to load. Great vids really enjoying them.

[@harlinwall9367]

This bow....Hotter than sex!!! Amazing bow! 👍👍👍 I'd been eagerly looking forward to this review. Thank you for providing our community with such detailed information and experienced perspective. 🙏

[@ArminHirmer]

thank you

[@timl3900]

Ich wollte mir solch einen kaufen. Aber sie sind ja mittlerweile scheinbar deutlich teurer geworden.😢 Super sind deine Videos!

[@carlredbird3054]

That is a cute little bow, very nice

[@barnybudin8728]

Salute to Grozer!!!always awesome!!!

[@Lionall]

I don't know how everyone else feels about this, but to me this is the kind of bow that is much closer to a work of art. So much so, that I would have reservations about using it. I've dicussed this with my friends a couple of times (although the subject was knives not bows, same principle tho), and they all said I'm an idiot (ehh what's new 😅). But still, I feel the same, I believe Armin's judgement that it's a near perfect bow, yet I would hesitate to take it out to the field.

[@yolfio3873]

I don’t know why but in my opinions if my weapon doesn’t look like a peace of art I don’t want to use it

[@aronnemcsik]

because it looks like a piece of art is the reason you should use it. You can give the best service to a bow(or knife in your friends case) if you using it. That would be true appriciation of such a great artistic tool. any tool that serves a purpose is meant to be used so it could show it's full beauty.

[@urinurin7699]

​Totaly agree with you and also is a bow to be usted and not to be sticked on the wall@@aronnemcsik

[@HarryOrenstein]

Armin, thank you so much for, again, an exceptionally good review. You say, @ 0820, it is not as easy to shoot at the Tatar, so as an adult (67yo) first timer, what weight would you suggest?

[@ArminHirmer]

Hi Harry. First bow I would use 25-30# to get the form right- later then upgrade

[@bobjackson3307]

Wow!!! Super video!!. What a jump in Speed. Say, When you perform Khatra, on a short bow like this one. Do you use about the same length of movement, (forward and to the left), that you would for a longer bow?.

[@ArminHirmer]

for now its always different, but yes I think it is more than with a longer bow :)

[@DennisMathias]

Probably somewhere on your site is a place you can go to compare price/performance ratios. Right?

[@dasMoto]

Wenn der jetzt noch 32“ könnte... aber so kurz wie er ist... Ich finde es eh schon unglaublich WIE weit die sich biegen lassen. Gozer hat auf jeden Fall was drauf. Wenn ich groß bin, kauf ich mir auch einen.😜 Danke fürs Vorstellen Armin!

[@ArminHirmer]

Gerne

[@esoel]

Is it correct that is available 30-80# ? It seems Grozer's website is not up to date on poundages because I inquired about a bow and he told me that it is only available at a lower poundage that what is listed in his website... for this bow he lists 30-65# , are you sure it is 30-80#?

[@ArminHirmer]

that was what I got from the website

[@DTankTopM]

Beautiful Bow

[@VladMcMerlin]

I suggest that for archers using khatra a lot a narrow arrowpass causes deviation to the left. But 26 mm are just fine. Am I right or am I right?) Talking about the thumb release, of course.

[@ArminHirmer]

Worth investigating :) and maybe doing a video

[@VladMcMerlin]

@@ArminHirmer Thank you. I think a narrow arrowpass is ideal for the Mediterranean draw. Or thumbdraw without side khatra.

[@ArminHirmer]

@@VladMcMerlin I personally always like to have a narrow arrow pass in conjunction with a good brace height, even for khatra and string twist :) but I will test it

[@LOFIGSD]

What arrow would you use on that if 80lb draw weight?

[@ArminHirmer]

Depends on the recommended gpp. With Grozer 8gpp x 80

[@Daylon91]

The Turks I've heard used 30 gram arrows so 462 grain arrows. Crazy light. If they were drawing very high draw weights it would be like compound bows and modern crossbows shooting 2-5 gpp arrows.

[@m7zfr]

A Very nice bow 👍🏻

[@Plasmaspy]

A biocomposite manchu would be interesting

[@AA43560]

How is the durability on these? Ive heard before that they break easily?

[@ArminHirmer]

No problems so far

[@ИванДраго-ы8ж]

nice bow, for hunting small game

[@WW-sl5gj]

Turkish bow 💖

[@LifeisGood-ye8rl]

I keep buying grozer bow and it’s a problem. I need more diversity in my collections.

[@Lionall]

Have you looked at Jackal archery bows? They are also very well made bows but with a bit more.. naturalistic feeling to them I'd say.

[@agamagreen]

I can add some more awesome well-known bowyers for asiatic bows: Bogár, Vegh, Sav, Paragon, Nawalny (all in Europe) Maybe the next continues the list for Asia 😁 (like Spearman, AF archery, Alibow, Heekiong Archery, Abu Salman, ...) There are so many fantastic bowyers in this world, it’s just great! Wish you much fun with your bow(s)! 🏹🔆

[@LifeisGood-ye8rl]

@@agamagreen I have 1 Ali bow and 1 Nawalny but I ordered 1 more Nawalny Korean Warbow. 1 Sarmat but 6 from grozer :((

[@jake4194]

@@LifeisGood-ye8rl I'll buy one of your grozer bows :)

[@isidroespadavazquez7179]

que preciosidad de arco

[@arnaulpujol8439]

Hola como podria obtener un arco de asi soy de Argentina capital y me gusta ese arco tiene muy buena potencia yo quisiera uno de 55 oh mas para la caza tengo un metro setenta de altura como se podria hacer para que me lo manden muy bueno ese arco los felisito un abrazo

[@birolsay1410]

This biocomposite! material is cracking after sometime.

[@Daylon91]

Its artificial horn I believe so no surprise or maybe the layer of "horn" is thin like what happened on Numair horn fiberglass bow

[@ArminHirmer]

simply unstring very slow every time

[@dawudbish3860]

You are even too modest.

[@jasonwilliams4197]

That thing is as flimsy as a wet noodle

[@ArminHirmer]

might appear like this, but shoots great :)

[@jasonwilliams4197]

@@ArminHirmer that's good

[@Daylon91]

Not like Veghs Sipahi or alibows Janissary or the Chu lmao:D that thing was terrible