ARX vs FMJ...Is It BETTER Than BALL?

[@randlerichardson5826]

The FMJ in the 45 is like a bull dozer it’s slow but plows it’s way through

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yessir

[@RimfireRanger]

I’ve always wondered about those compressed copper rounds. I would definitely love to see the ARX round shot threw wood, sheet metal, and drywall

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@Art-mo5bt]

Cinder block and brick would make a good addition to the list, but 👍

[@christopherbishop4927]

See Paul Harrell videos

[@jacobseraphin685]

One of the clerks at my gun shop carry’s the ARX in his 1911 chambered in .45. He even picks those over hollow points.

[@anangryranger]

Interesting video. 😏 So many exotic rounds these days... I'm old. Therefore, I'm old school. Carried a WWII mfg Colt 1911A1 in Vietnam. Three years in country, I had a few "unfriendly" encounters with the NVA while armed with that 1911A1. Won every time, and lived to be an old man now. The standard Ball round in 45 was then, as now, what I shoot. If it ain't broke don't fix it. And you won't find any plastic pop guns in my safe. A 1911A1 in 45ACP is the only autoloader I own. And I can give you over a couple dozen good reasons why. The rest are bigbore revolvers.

[@ToolsandTargets]

No doubt it'll get the job done if needed. I have a couple of new additions in .45acp that I haven't shot yet. Gotta get caught up so I can do that.😎👍

[@LKaramazov]

Ha! You’re not talking about clay or gel, but an actual real world encounter! Fascinating! Thanks for the story!

[@anangryranger]

Yup, and three shootings during my career as a peace officer for 28 years. Used a 4" S&W Mod28 357 then. But now I'm old and fight varmints in the woods where I live in retirement.

[@user-im6fy4qp6m]

you werent concerned with the lower capacity? just wondering why you dont trend to a glock in 45 acp these days with almost double the magazine capacity

[@anangryranger]

@@user-im6fy4qp6m Why would I I want to do that? I've carried a Glock 1st generation when the PD forced us to carry 9mm autos. I retired soon after. Yes, I've had 2 Glocks, 2 S&W plastic striker fires, and a Taurus. Didn't keep any very long. Of those, I almost liked the Taurus a little as it had a thumb safety. However, 9mm is not suitable for reliable lethal hits. Whereas a 45 Auto, with the exception of a poorly placed hit, will take the fight out of what you hit with one round. Seven or eight rounds of 45 Auto are plenty for a fight. And I'm speaking from personal experience. As to a Glock in 45 Auto? No thanks. It's got no hammer. No safety. And its got too much plastic. I don't like 'em, and I don't trust 'em. Whereas, my carry auto is a 1911A1 I built-up with Novak Tritium sights, fully rebuilt inside and out. Ported and polished. And on my worst day, will print fist-size groups at 20m. With an ITWB holster, its easy to carry, and ultra dependable. Nope, I don't need a few more rounds to get the job done. Like I said earlier, I don't have plastic pistols. No matter what the current trend is today. I don't buy into "trends", I use what's best for me, and proven to work.

[@LKaramazov]

“ they all fall to the . 45 ball”🤣🤣🤣🤣Another great video! Ammo shop online has the ARXs on sale for 11.75 a box.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. That's a good deal.😎👍

[@Mbartel500]

“They shake in their boots, when hit with the flutes”. You know, I'm a huge fan of the fluted bullets, and these did an excellent job of ignoring the cloth, and getting busy!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😂😂😂 😎👍

[@tikkidaddy]

If ya want it to scoot drop the flutes in the glutes!😂

[@CaptLeadfoot]

In actual flesh, fluted rounds, especially from pistol will do the exact same damage as ball ammo.

[@Mbartel500]

@@CaptLeadfoot could you post a link to your source of that information? How do you know that two completely different projectiles at very different velocities, will behave the same in living tissue?

[@matthewtalich9989]

Both Sellier & Bellot and Winchester's 230 grain FMJ seems to be quite a bit more powerful than other brands. CCI really loads its target ammo extremely light which is okay if your competing or simply need an extremely large volume of ammo to complete a training course. On another note CCI uses small pistol primers in there 45acp it's a pain to separate their ammo out if you reload.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Good to know.😎👍

[@BlakeHouse-j3u]

Did you chrono that Blaxer ammo thru any other pistols ? Have you chronograph 'Ed other ammo thru that pistol ? If so how did it compare to velocity expectations? That Blazer ammo gave velocities expected from a 3.5 inch Officer ACP , not a Commander length . Could be that Lot of Blazer FMJ was severely under loaded . But with two totally different ammunitions both being WAY slow , Were it mine , I would do more comparisons to try to determine if it is one of those bbls where the chamber / throat/ leade/ bore dimensions all tolerance stacked in the wrong combination to be " Slow " with everything .

[@Kamalashairypussy]

Send me your small primer 45 😂❤

[@z06cowboy72]

I'd like to see the Winchester USA Ready 230 grain flat point fmj compared to the standard Winchester USA White box 230 grain fmj rn.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@robertcainjr.7627]

I have the NovX 380 for the SmithEZ, the round doesn’t get spin from the lands and grooves, the spin comes from the flutes. When it hits, it’s all hydrostatic shock! Like a boat propeller.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@barrymccockiner6641]

Barry is happy that you listened to Barry last month!

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@bradgray9703]

Try some FMJ with a flat tip. You will see a big difference over the FMJ round nose. That FMJfT is a great woods carry. Good penetration, and good wound channel.

[@ToolsandTargets]

I realize that. I've already proven that with 9mm and .380. The point here was to use plain old ".45 ball."

[@kodywoodward]

I have a few different calibers in the fluted composite rounds like the NovX and ARX. It's good to see they're consistent between the calibers you've tried.

[@ToolsandTargets]

The consistency is a huge plus.😎👍

[@YellowHammer26]

👍👍great test tools. The more I see these fluted rounds the more I like them. For self defense that was perfect penetration with the ARX.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Same here.😎👍

[@Courageous_Lion]

1" longer barrel is 100 FPS easily on that caliber. I've managed with those bullets: Date: 9-20-2022 Caliber: 45 ACP Case: Speer 1x Powder: Hogdon Tite Group Weight: 8 gr Primer: CCI LP 300 Bullet: Polycase ARX 118 Velocity: 1522 FPS KE 607 OL 1.247 Pistol: P80PF45 Alpha Wolf 4.6” USE AT YOUR OWN RISK.

[@sinisterthoughts2896]

It would be interesting to see these arx after passing through a barrier, they are tough, but they weigh less and will probably have slowed down considerably after passing through a tough enough medium, do they may not have that spiral wounding ability. Of course any projectiles capabilities will suffer when shot the objects first.

[@camojoe83]

Man, that sure is some softball fmj. Should be clocking about a hundred more fps for standard loads.. stuff's probably meant for punching paper at a match more than anything.. my favorite hardball is Winchester, followed by Federal AE. usually 830-850 out of full size 1911. The ARX does have a useful degree of frangibility for steel plates and indoor backstops, plus it's non toxic.

[@DRay-or4tc]

I was always skeptical about the fluted bullets. This is enlightening. Also like to see barrier performance with these; windshield glass, drywall, plywood- something.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Got some other stuff I wanna test with that too.😎👍

[@queefersutherland8495]

I saw a video testing through drywalland sheet metal can't remember if they did glass. I do remember one breaking in half but can't remember which barrier

[@rjw261984]

Good results from the ARX in the Lords caliber. Appreciate you Tools. 🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@Adam-nv9zo]

Obviously, other people have left basically this same comment, but I'd also be really interested in seeing them shot at some hard barriers. I'm not gonna say what in particular because you would select better hard barriers than me, probably given you have more experience testing than I do. This is a very interesting round. Awesome video, as always, brother. 👏

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👍

[@paulscountry456]

Those bid slow bullets will work for defence and can produce devastating wounds tumbling or hitting bone, cartridges with those slow velocitys were used in the Civil War to good success, the trick is a big bullet.Nice job

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@miker9043]

Always enjoy watching your tests brother, you give every manufacturer the same treatment and i appreciate your honesty ! I'm sticking with conventional HP rounds that offer good expansion , I'm looking for one shot stops ! may only have a split second in a defensive situation and i want reliable performance , ill pay up for that all day long !

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@380master9]

You have to check those out in 380 my friend, they go the 12

[@ToolsandTargets]

Tested them in .380 from my EZ a while back.😎👍

[@jedediahsibley3355]

Another great video brother! Ben a bit sceptical about the fluted bullets in the past but the more I see of them the more I like them. Especially the light grain ones, over penetration is a no no for me! When I fire my 45 it can't go just flying all the way through the house if you know what I mean...

[@ToolsandTargets]

These could use some more speed to get the power up a bit but not too shabby.😎👍

[@truthhurts7836]

I'm not surprised by the outcome, but it is nice to actually see the comparison. Another great video keep them coming 👍.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@c.m.b.4868]

Just as I'm digging my 1911 out of mothballs, Tools drops a .45acp video. Just what I needed, if I'm going to keep shooting it.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@jonesclantd]

Good test, but it's bugging me that the ball ammo wasn't even up to old US Govt specs: 230gr fmj @ ~830fps. Not that it would have made an incredible impact in the gel using ball ammo anyway, but .45acp that can't even touch 300ft/lbs of muzzle energy is just pitiful. Maybe a velocity test of different.45acp ball ammo is in order! Show which companies are actually loading these things up to snuff.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Par for the course these days, sadly.

[@jmichaelcarbonniere9549]

Fantastic test, Brian! I will admit, I'm pretty disappointed in the ARX velocity since I'm getting 1200fps out of the Underwood ammo with the Lehigh bullet (+P). I also have some misgivings regarding the ARX when going thru barriers or in extreme cold as the epoxy will get brittle. I've heard rumors but have never tested the ARX since I'm quite happy with the Lehigh bullets. I would also like to see a bit more penetration from the ARX. Still, it's not a bad bullet off hand and is certainly much better than ball!! I'm sure that the ARX bullet could be reloaded, just as the Lehigh bullets can be reloaded. I shot one Lehigh 9mm 90gr. bullet 6 times before I lost it out of my jugs! Not bad for a single bullet! Cheers, jc

[@ToolsandTargets]

Agreed. The whole point of the light for caliber rounds is to get that speed. Giving up too much power if it's not getting there fast enough.😎👍

[@hoffpbass]

This test was out of the 4.25" barrel though. I'd hope to see 50 to 75 more ft/sec from a 5" though. Great point about the composite and weather. MN may prove too much for that round. Guess we'll have to get Tools up here next winter for Sub-zero Jelly Time 😂

[@ftdefiance1]

The Blazer seems very slow. I think military spec was 830 fps.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Seems like most everything is these days.

[@xringarcher1440]

I have a Sig P938 that just for the life of it, won’t cycle hollowpoints reliably. They get hung up on the feedramp like nothing I’ve seen before. I’ve come to keeping ARX rounds in its magazines and it shoots them just as well as FMJs. I don’t like that they are a light for caliber projectile that may not shoot to a standard FMJ’s POI on target, but really they aren’t that far off so in the event that I have to actually grab my P938 from its stashed spot in the house, I think they’ll do fine. I’d much rather have the wound channel created by those flutes than be limited to straight-line over penetration of FMJs. Great testing.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.

[@CeltKnight]

Very cool tests, as always. Back in my LEO days, as an overworked detective, I for a while carried a 1911 loaded with Hydra-Shoks (best we had back then). My sgt and dear friend carried a 1911 loaded with Federal FMJs and this produced many arguments between us. He'd say his choice was "combat proven," and I'd counter argue and we'd go round and round (albeit goodnaturedly). The man could shoot like a machine rest, though, I unless you were behind the bad guy, I guess it really didn't matter. ;)

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. They all get the job done if they hit the right spot.😎👍

[@joeyphillips1181]

I might use the FMJ for bear protection or practice but that's about it lol and I'd rather have a 357 that penetrates just as deep but expands a little and dumps energy over the 45 ball

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥🐻💥

[@keithtate1241]

Nice jelly test 👍. The ARX seems to be a good defensive round. Thanks for the video and have a great evening 😊.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. You too!😎👊

[@ronaldbarnes8302]

Haven’t tried any ARX but it looked pretty decent in the jelly. Shot a lot of 45 ball over the years at targets, prefer HPs for critters. Thanks for another sweet test Tools!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate ya, my friend!

[@Gunners_Mate_Guns]

I still prefer JHP, but it would be really interesting to see how Speer flat point TMJ 230 grain .45 ACP would do. Hardball bullets tend to tumble, which is actually counterproductive to performance.

[@alexskillz45]

What i like about these rounds is that they make my .45 26 and 30 round extended mags reliable. Simply, most .45auto ammo is just too heavy to run reliably in extended mags and the mags are blamed. The lehigh 135gr XD do well also but not anything heavier than that. Sure, they dont perform the best of all defensive rounds, but they are barrier blind and stop reliably within 18". These makes them good for firing into or out of vehicles, glass or doors.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@rangetime6779]

Lehigh is much better then the ARX. Tumbling creates unreliable results. FMJ worked as expected. Thanks for the test.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@treetop.garage]

Definitely some nice performance there ..great test tools

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👍

[@raleighthomas3079]

Have you ever had a fluted bullet stop nose forward? I’d love to see it, because they ALL TUMBLE. The flutes don’t ’displace fluid’ or any of that crap, they just tumble. I’ve watched some ballistic high-speed video and the disruption is always from tumbling.

[@jardinero9112]

Big hoss you nailed it on that one. I must admit that I have a few fmj's in my home defense rotation (punching through doors or walls ) I'm much more of a hollow point guy. That's why I love your channel my friend. Penatration vs expansion

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@semichiganandy2127]

The ARX looks pretty good. Thanks for the comparison.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Not too bad.😎👍

[@rolexr]

Oh man...that Blazer is really a low powered .45 hardball!!! Nice result of the ARX

[@randlerichardson5826]

The ground up copper bullet I don’t remember seeing a video where it’s put in gel now.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@cw2a]

Good stuff brother!! I bought a couple Bags of projectiles all ARX compressed copper Bullets. They shoot and preform well.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nice.😎👊

[@CrawldaBeast]

I have whacked a few skunks with the 9mm ARX from a LC9s with great results. I'm usually 25'-30' away and the ARXs turn them inside out.

[@armorist6570]

Even though i know its not the best for performance, theres something almost.. reassuring (?) about the THUNK of a 45 ball round traveling and just pounding its way through media. I love it. But anyways, this comparison makes for a good demonstration of how different weight projectiles carry their energy. Very interesting. And of course, very nice to see some good performance! Ive never even heard of those ARX boolots, but its nice to see theres some other games in town!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely interesting stuff. I like a big ol chunk of lead too.

[@kenworland1865]

The ARX was impressive! 👊👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

Little more speed to get the energy up some and it would be really nice.😎👍

[@arrobrewer2730]

I dont know anything about the fluted round but when a .45 hollow point expandes to .75" thats what I rely on.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@nearrlegend6741]

Definitely nice performance. Great info, ty brother!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Appreciate you!😎👊

[@steelpunisher6944]

They all fall to .45 ball and it won 2 world wars. Lol. Even though I don’t carry .45 much anymore it’s still my favorite caliber. From the schofield up to the .450 Bushmaster. I wouldn’t mind seeing some barrier tests if you decide to do that with the ARX. Awesome stuff as always my friend 👍🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Definitely wanna do some of that. Seems like I can't ever get caught up lately.😆

[@PetuniaIii-pd1ww]

@@ToolsandTargets take a week off, go fishing, or maybe the beach...we will live, you'll feel better...all work and no play-...

[@randlerichardson5826]

Your right Tools I’ve got some 9mm fmj loaded up well a bunch loaded up. Be safe and GOD BLESS y’all Amen 🙏

[@ToolsandTargets]

Nice.😎👊

[@timparkhurst8661]

I am a firm believer that all forty five ACeeP ammo is of acceptable ballistics when pumped out of the proper tools. HK UMP, Thompson, Hardballer, Kriss, MK 23, ect.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Longer barrels definitely wake it up.

[@elvinversey1641]

I come to Tools for ammo education and Hick for gun education. Oh yeah i love the hat too!

[@yellowboxster06]

I use the Underwood rounds in my Ruger LCP Max and my Colt Defender 45ACP. In the 380 ACP case I don’t want to be wondering if I’ll get expansion, the Underwood Extreme Defend reduces that concern. And for the same reason in a 3” 1911 I know the Underwood’s will perform predictably. Great video.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. I think these type rounds are definitely the way to go for those calibers.😎👍

[@bigtrev761]

🇦🇺😎👍Brother you’ve got the bestest job in the world even if it doesn’t pay much 💰…..love the 45acp…..great test mate ….all I can say is nobody does the test / science like you big fella , great video 😎👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir! Appreciate you as always!😎👊

[@Eduardojr01]

Essa Taurus 1911 com a bandeira do Usa ficou linda demais. Ótimo vídeo 👏👏👏 Parabéns

[@ToolsandTargets]

Obrigado, meu amigo. Eu acho que é uma ótima pistola.😎👍

[@chicagomike2111]

Can you do a close-up pic of the ARX type rounds on the rifling? Just curious if it is so tough that the barrel isn't transferring rifling marks.

[@hoffpbass]

Cool. I never heard of those. But one thing is for certain, I'll never buy Blazers in 45acp. Weak sauce. But I'll look up these ARX rounds tonight. Thanks, Tools.

[@ToolsandTargets]

They're usually pretty decently priced too.😎👍

[@independentthinker8930]

I saw something similar for handloaders for the beowulf, if I see them again I'll get them to try

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, I think someone mentioned that you can buy these bullets.

[@johngrunwell]

What impresses me, even with the Lehigh/Underwood loads, are the speeds they have as well as their reliable performance upon impact. Why JHPs, yes they expand, but in real world environment will they be counted on? These solids are changing a lot of minds. If my attacker drops behind a store counter, I have full confidence in my ammo selection and he wasted his cover protection.👍👍. I feel also that the Higher Speed result from a higher load as these lighter projectiles could run into a cycle problem on the slide, just my thought.

[@ToolsandTargets]

The consistency is a big plus.😎👍

[@jorgesolis9468]

Well no frangible on tissue but maybe on steel it is so its a safer training round

[@joe1940]

Fort Scott TUI ammo vs FMJ would be a good comparison. I've seen a few videos on it and I'm thinking about switching over to it for my carry ammo.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Tested some of it in bare gel a while back.

[@joe1940]

@@ToolsandTargets I'll check it out.👍

[@michaelburke6552]

I have tried Underwood & Inceptor like Underwood better but can't get good accuracy. Mag tech 115 fmj 9mm accuracy at 10-15 yards great. I want to fall in love with the Underwood just not sure she'd be there if I need her and her 12 sisters. For me accuracy & penetration are my maine concerns don't want to under pen & don't want to miss everything else comes second. Your video's are the best keep them comeing.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Appreciate you!😎👊

[@frankbrowning328]

IMO the ARX could be improved some by making the mix of items used to create it heavier so that it would be shorter in length but a little heavier in overall weight. If the bullet could be made 1/10'' shorter and weigh about 20 -30 grains more it would allow more area for gun powder and still give additional velocity. The additional weight would allow it to penetrate just a little more. The overall combo should allow for even more disruption in the gel and allow it to possibly travel 16'' +

[@ToolsandTargets]

I'd like to see em moving faster too. If I'm giving up weight for speed, I want all of it.

[@frankbrowning328]

@@ToolsandTargets Exactly. They do seem to work along the same way as the extreme defender/extreme penetrator designs but with a different profile to the fluting. I wonder (if both bullets are loaded to the same velocity) which profile is most effective

[@richarde735]

the weather was awesome again today!!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah it was.

[@Narsuitus]

Since I prefer to use subsonic ammo with my sound suppressor, I prefer the 230 FMJ to the supersonic ARX ammo.

[@charlesmckinley29]

Thanks tools. I will have to try the ARX out of the carbine.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Should be some speedy boys.

[@VS-ff4ez]

Is there any difference in how a round nose fmj behaves in the gel in comparison to a flat nose fmj?

[@trustnot9]

I like that ARX , i'll have to get some of that ammo for sure. Great test as always , my friend, good job.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. 😎👍

[@trustnot9]

@@ToolsandTargets Your welcome

[@farhan.naushad]

I think now Norma offers something similar, Norma NXD. There’s another company G2 that makes similar products. I like this increasing trend of external hollow points.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yeah, Black Hills Honey Badger is another one. I imagine they are all pretty similar in performance.

[@scarifrougeone7225]

Agreed. The ARX is interesting. First test I seen with those. Good test and commentary Tools. I like the ARX because of consistency. Thanks for sharing and be safe bud. 🇺🇸👍🇺🇸

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir😎👊

[@bradclem6226]

I carry a Kimber Ultra Carry 2 for 20 yrs and I started carrying this ammo because it makes it so much lighter to carry u wouldn’t believe the difference in 230gr r even 185gr compared to this ammo. But I don’t know the speed r knock down on a short barrel like my Kimber. I’ve shot water jugs and it explodes them and they r accurate but any ammo I’ve shot through my Kimber has been accurate. I love a 45 it just shoots so good I can shoot the 45 way better then any of my 9mm’s.I don’t know what it is I guess I’ve had it so long and shot it more . It’s my baby.

[@DRAGONRIDER385]

A interesting test. I would have guessed the ARX would have went through. Thanks for the video.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Not too bad.😎👍

[@Wyoming_Gramps]

Great test Tools! I do use the ARX in my little Ruger LCP when I carry it. They are destructive little suckers.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👍

[@johnlacasse8893]

Since I carry a Shield 45, I'm typically more curious about short barrel performance... I wonder how the ARX does in a Shield?

[@ToolsandTargets]

Slightly less velocity but generally the same performance. Less than an inch barrel length difference will be very similar.

[@leroycaudill96]

Kool test Tool's good test on some 45acp.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@robertseafield5810]

Good info. I would consider the ARX for my 45 ACP guns.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@randlerichardson5826]

The 45 fmj would zip through something squishy I think but there’s a hole in a vital place and a hole is a hole.

[@ToolsandTargets]

💥🕳💥

[@chrisgabbert658]

👍😊🎯🤔 with a sabot , you can get a second use with a muzzle loader.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😆😆😆

[@totljag1]

New to .45s , does the 1911 cycle FMJ better than hollow points in a modern 1911 ? Thanks

[@robertharing7031]

Would have loved to had some of those back when I carried a 45 acp

[@ToolsandTargets]

Quite a bit less weight to carry around too.😎👍

[@raybo34]

I like those ARX because they don't have any sharp corners that may cause feeding problems with some finicky tools. Ballistics are very good. As always, FMJs are better than a sharp stick but over penetration can get you in trouble. I don't carry FMJs. I need to get some fluted for my 380.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Definitely a good choice, especially for the short barrels.

[@alexskillz45]

I think it would be cool to handload these rounds in 45super to about 1800-2000fps.

[@Nutty.357]

That ARX is so light, seems weird in a 45 - 1911. Guessing the felt recoil is probably less than the heavier bullet?? They did good on penetration staying in 1st block. I wouldnt say I dont like them but think I would prefer a heavier projectile but that is just me lol! Appreciate ya! 👍💥💥

[@ToolsandTargets]

They really need to be moving faster to be so light.🤷‍♂️

[@williamray3101]

Speed or weight? 1 like 230 grain ball in my 45. I carry full size 9 mm. Critical duty.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👊

[@Lucas12v]

4.25" isn't full size for a 1911 but it is what most people consider full sized in general so i think it's fair to say the advertised velocity is misleading at minimum.

[@ToolsandTargets]

😎👍

[@kathygates8845]

TOOL .. ANOTHER GREAT VIDEO ...!!! THANK YOU FOR SAVING ME MONEY ON BUYING ARX .... !!!!!! DOUBLE G. HERE... !!!!!!

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir.😎👊

[@oubliette862]

You think those composite rounds are possibly hard on the barrel because they are really hard and don't rifle? I like the fluted performance. I use what's available. My 45 has a 3 inch barrel. The pdx stuff isn't very accurate in my gun. The ball is more accurate.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Being that they're just copper and plastic, I wouldn't think so.🤷‍♂️

[@thomascarpenter7415]

Blazer is a training round , I think some Lawman 230 would be closer to 800 fps

[@timd729]

It was also not a full sized 5" 1911. Blazer seems pretty weak in 45.

[@salextodd2]

I’m with you, Tools - those ARX are very impressive!! And you know me - have never been a fan on over-penetration the likes of those FMJ you tested today!! Thanks, as always, for this highly informative content!! I do wonder what the presence of a hard substance (like bone) will have over the performance of the ARX rounds though.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Appreciate ya!😎👊

[@CrashRacknShoot]

Haha, hell yeah Brother! How the hell have I watched your channel so many times and never noticed you rock a Cleeter hat?! Thats awesome.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Yessir! Just got finished watching his vid from today matter of fact.😎👊

[@CrashRacknShoot]

@@ToolsandTargets same! That Fox Body is gonna be the dark horse in the fleet. Cleet better up his game with Mullet, or else his prized baby is gonna get upstaged by a McDonald's menu item 😋

[@ToolsandTargets]

@@CrashRacknShoot That thing looks so fast goin down the track!

[@loquat44-40]

The super light wt might make then quickly shed velocity for ARX rounds. Anyone know how fast they are at 100 or 300 yards. Being monolithic and hard might make them more prone to ricochet.

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@jasonkeating9958]

I'm still unconvinced about these solid rounds, They seem to do amazingly good in gel but whenever Paul harrell tests them in the meat target they don't do very well they are basically performing like a fmj, I still think that for whatever reason they over perform in gel maybe the flutes disrupt the gel in a way that is unique to the gel that dousnt happen in flesh,

[@ToolsandTargets]

I like Paul's meat target but it has to be one of the most inconsistent, non-repeatable targets you could possibly use.

[@ExcavationNation]

Great video tools 👍

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Appreciate ya!😎👊

[@lens7859]

Pretty nice, not too much penetration, guessing because of its light weight, like 9mm weight

[@ToolsandTargets]

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[@ER1CK28]

that ARX can cause damage on the bore rifling when frequently used

[@ToolsandTargets]

I'd be curious to know if there's any actual cases of this or just purely speculation. Seems very unlikely considering the materials used in the bullet.

[@jeffreybean5363]

Great Ammo test Tools 👍🇺🇸.

[@ToolsandTargets]

Thank you sir. Appreciate that.😎👊

[@Gunners_Mate_Guns]

Get some top quality JHP (Speer Gold Dot, Hornady XTP, etc.) and you're all set. No need to reinvent the wheel.

[@chumpchange00]

What do you recomend for protection against big dangerous animals/game sir? Dr.?

[@ToolsandTargets]

The biggest thing you got!😆

[@doghousedon1]

Packaging ammo in 20 rd boxes is an insult to those who buy it. They are ripping us off. And on top of it, they lie about the velocities. They get away with it because WE allow it. It's time we Bud Light these blokes by not purchasing ammo sold this way. BTW, those ARX bullets had a tendency to break on me and didn't perform as well as SWCs. Thanks for the vid.

[@user-im6fy4qp6m]

you can buy the projectiles for less than 10 cents a piece and load your own

[@doghousedon1]

@user-im6fy4qp6m Yes, I'm aware of those bullets being available for reloading. I've been shooting SWCs for eons, and nobody has demonstrated the Philips screwdriver bullets being superior to those. Plus, I refuse to purchase ammo in 20 rd boxes. It looks like I'll have to do my own virus testing sometime, so I will eventually pick some up. Thanks for the heads up.

[@hiyadowan895]

I would love to see a snub 38 wadcutter gel test vs 4in those were the snub nose best man stopper because of the perfect cut of the flying trash can lol

[@ToolsandTargets]

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