Give Me an Answer - Are Complex Thoughts Merely Chemical Reactions?

[@JH-ni9jw]

Gotta give Cliffe props for having the patience to talk to some of these people.

[@follower-of-the-Way]

DUDE....cliff..You are an absolute TANK for the Kingdom bro. I thank God for you.

[@VORKU]

The patience this man has is INSANE

[@save_theworld]

The driver of patience is aim. He has an aim to achieve something.

[@nickduncan8941]

As an atheist, you are correct sir this man is a damn saint lmao

[@alltheangels648]

I would’ve lost it already lol

[@DailyBread007]

i know right...3 vs. 1 at the same time...LOL

[@adamcobb7892]

It is humorous seeing young adults arguing with a man who studied history thinking theyre right when quoting things their teacher or a school who we Chritians know is corupt tells them within a yr or two lol. Patience indeed. I was screaming LISTEN TO THE MAN and digest before continuing to argue with someone giving the info you asked. Argumentative equals lack of knowledge on the matter. Juuuuuust saying

[@godisgood201]

It’s dumbfounding that rather than those 2 students accepting how their beliefs fail when it comes to describing the reality of free will and personhood, they just admit they’re robots and move on.

[@tdog4153]

They don't want to admit there is something more than the material

[@zoomkaboom1]

those are called sheep for the slaughter. What we call idiots today.

[@lookupromans109jesusiscomi4]

@@zoomkaboom1 Whom also what Proverbs 24:11-12 told us to lead away from the slaughter "Rescue those being led away to death; hold back those staggering toward slaughter. If you say, “But we knew nothing about this,” does not he who weighs the heart perceive it? Does not he who guards your life know it? Will he not repay everyone according to what they have done?" Proverbs 24:11‭-‬12 NIV

[@diogogouveia3317]

@@tdog4153 its a matter of the heart not mind, thats why they dont rationalise

[@Dante-mw2ez]

They don’t want to be wrong, simple as that. They want attention.

[@koubl]

love how the guy with the papers just ends up looking like an even greater fool for attempting to show up on the scene with weapons in hand, haha.

[@ImCeeJH]

While claiming he’s not an expert on the Bible, but certainly argues like he is than backs off and claims he’s just regurgitating someone else’s opinion. Lol

[@mhansens70]

He and the girl next to him... Silly.

[@choosejesus1910]

Professing themselves to be wise they became fools.

[@fernandoherrera177]

🤫😂😂😂😂😂

[@fernandoherrera177]

@@mhansens70 😂😂 we all have been like that thank God we aren’t fools any longer

[@geocapistrano4364]

I appreciate the amount of knowledge and patience Cliff exhibits. Truly it is his calling and gifting from God. Thank you for this content on KZbin, I learn something new every time that reinforces my faith in Christ.

[@joojotin]

Same, his explanations are very clear and he gives good information, joyful to listen to.

[@atheist-karate-guy]

He is an emotional buffoon, he make no logical argument, no historical argument, no scientific argument.. only his “feelings” … again, the old man is a buffoon.

[@csmoviles]

🙏❤🙏❤🙏

[@godislove363]

@@atheist-karate-guy you speak from emotion not fact.

[@atheist-karate-guy]

@@godislove363 on what subject?

[@iPlayChessAndStratego]

Unbelievable that the two students said they were robots.

[@choosejesus1910]

Funny your profile is of a robot named Zero

[@jusflow9997]

They are truly not in touch with reality

[@curiousgeorge555]

It seems to me they were just goofing off. They also seemed quite dull.

[@ODEMUZIC]

At 6:32 you can see why he is debating with Cliffe. He yells: I win!! At the point of robots he realizes he has lost, but won’t admit it. That’s the sad part of debating. Like it’s a competition.

[@WiildBill]

There really are some NPCs walking around these days..

[@cg8752]

Cliffe, you put yourself out there with solid answers and many people try their hardest with no solid information to contradict you. I wish someone would have given this to me when I was younger, I will continue to pray for you and keep on talking my friend.....

[@leib109]

It’s sad to think that this type of civil discourse without violence or shouting is essentially impossible today.

[@gweilospur5877]

No it’s not.

[@mhansens70]

This video proves that it is possible.

[@bryant475]

Yeah I'm wondering what year(s) these videos are from, I don't see any sheeple wearing masks!

[@koolaidman4461]

@@bryant475 Yea the video quality also makes it seem like these videos were recorded a few years ago

[@godislove363]

@@koolaidman4461 they were, these are all old reuploads.

[@samiaziz5]

Amen. Voltaire.. "If a watch proves a watchmaker then the universe proves a designer and creator..

[@gweilospur5877]

Obvious logical flaw - we have all seen and owned watches. We know where they came from. We have observed only one universe, and only a small part of it. We have nothing to compare it with and we know nothing of its origins. Making up a story does not answer the question.

[@spacecoastz4026]

@@gweilospur5877 Not logical. The universe includes time, matter, space, light, atoms, molecules, elements, gravity, order, and life...much more complex than a watch. And science has firmly concluded that the Big Bang is true and verifiable....which means the universe was created and had a beginning. And "nothing" can create a universe....only God can create that which didn't exist. Even the first verse of the Bible tells the story of Creation. In the Beginning (time) God created the heavens (space) and the earth (matter).

[@gweilospur5877]

@@spacecoastz4026 Not really. The Big Bang is taken as the start of our local universe as we know it today, it is not taken as the start of “everything”. The idea of “nothing” is meaningless. “ Nothing” cannot exist, only “something” can exist, by definition. We don’t have an explanation as to “why” there is a universe, and you can’t answer the question by making up a story. It is not logical to answer a mystery by introducing an even greater mystery.

[@spacecoastz4026]

@@gweilospur5877 Lets make it simple...how was matter and energy created? Who/what created that? And whatever "that" is, who/what created that? Eventually it is either "nothing" made creation...or God created Creation. And since logic is clear that matter and energy can not be created by/from Nothing, then God, outside of His creation, created Creation. Its not hard.

[@gweilospur5877]

@@spacecoastz4026 You start with a leading question that automatically points to your desired answer. Who says that matter and energy were created? The truth is NOT simple, but simple minds will come up with the simple answer “ God done it”.

[@PaulRizzo]

God Bless you Cliffe. Thanks for all you’ve taught me through your videos and this show over the last 15 years or so. The way you keep your patience with these arrogant snotty nosed kids is epic. Especially the two at the end: Mr I’m-prepared-with-my-papers and Miss Smiley-I-know-I’ve-got-it-all-worked-out.

[@ironmatto3]

Hahah so true! he's lead by the Holy Spirit for sure!

[@taramckinley7585]

Absolutely, these College students are so rude and self righteous, it's supremely disrespectful. Cliffe is definitely more patient than I am, because I find it annoying and insulting the way they speak about and to him.

[@onyeilonyeil9468]

Pastor Cliffe, has done a lot of study, his ability to know the dates, time, place and people is AMAZING!; he's a student of the word and history, THIS IS HIS LIFE!! Wat he's doing is like Stephen in Acts6:10

[@michaelgallick4617]

"Keep going Cliffe"! " God is loving what you do"! I pray for you!❤🙏's

[@freedom4life312]

😂 the kid said...."my mom and dad made me who I am"

[@seanhunt6567]

I'm a compulsive gambler and anytime I get the itch I come to you cliffe god bless you

[@boltrooktwo]

If an expert computer simulation proves an expert computer simulation maker, a complex precise universe proves a complex precise universe maker.

[@godislove363]

Amen.

[@colinmatts]

A universe is not a computer

[@boltrooktwo]

@@ChrisTheKing172 Something being seen is not a requirement for the evidence to point to something. I can run a computer simulation of a person dead and gone with no visual trace of them and still conclude the simulation had a maker.

[@boltrooktwo]

@@colinmatts they have similarities.

[@boltrooktwo]

@@ChrisTheKing172 To claim we have no evidence means you are a Naturalist/Nature Worshipper, you accept only answers and evidence you receive directly from nature, such a claim is an exaggeration and can easily be found to be untrue.

[@ImCeeJH]

These people don’t want to learn, they want to argue and be right. What they were saying was just circular logic.

[@cameroneagle4370]

humans at that age are dumb...most, not all....

[@choosejesus1910]

@@cameroneagle4370 Yes I was a very stupid agnostic at that age.

[@j.whisper2379]

If Cliff took his arguments to an adult atheist he would ripped apart! He likes to spread his BS on young impressionable kids! All religion likes to brainwash children when they are most vulnerable into believing anything!

[@ImCeeJH]

@@j.whisper2379 brainwash them with what? By telling them by being a Christian they’ll be hated, persecuted, and mocked for their beliefs? Hardly brainwashing. If you brought your arguments to any biblical scholar you’d get destroyed

[@j.whisper2379]

@@ImCeeJH ! Actually! Up until recently those that didn't follow your nonsense were persecuted! When Christianity ruled the world, for example, in 16th Century Spain, we wouldn't be having this conversation! You would turn me into the nearest office of the Inquisition and I would be branded a heretic, tortured and murdered! If you are a Christian in modern day Afghanistan, the fervently religious Taliban would torture you and kill you! Only under secular law that advocates no particular religion, are you truly free to practice your faith! Just keep BS like creationism out of the public schools! And, poor, oppressed Christianity is the only professor of nonsense that has an official holiday for it's namesake!

[@quigongio5584]

Cliffe thank you for the great work you do

[@autry33]

Good grief the blonde and the tag team dude with the glasses. Confirmation bias on display. Can't shut up and listen for two seconds. Smirk from here to the moon. Cliff you have the patience of a saint or monk.

[@curiousgeorge555]

The girl especially was quite smug.

[@autry33]

@@curiousgeorge555 I'd have to agree. Don't know what people's problems are.

[@3xmen]

Yeah the blond think she knows it all……she maybe smart but still came out to be a😂poor girl., in this generation many are like her! No surprise at all!

[@1flash3571]

Their LOGIC fails them and yet, they still tried to argue with Cliff.

[@itsjoshbarranco]

Thanks for your service Cliffe. You are greatly appreciated.

[@sherrybeckley4740]

Great video!!

[@addyzee1335]

God bless you Cliffe ❤️

[@GRRAVEEY]

God bless you Cliff!The Lord is patient with me

[@lynnedoyle3654]

Awesome to listen to Cliffe. I don't know how he does it.

[@rodneyclements6190]

Praise God Almighty for His work through you Cliff! I lift you up and spur you on my brother!!!

[@Len-Dor1983]

i am sorry but i couldn't debate with Flick and Flack. This guy has a passion to help , amazing god bless him

[@InvestigadorTJ]

Thank you !

[@cameroneagle4370]

your welcome

[@TreysWalk]

This reminds me of Benson speaking to Mordecai and Rigby 😂😂

[@warriorforgod5949]

A woman (18:15) is so ignorant. When you meet person like this (Who is pretending to know.), ask them questions (Instead of giving them answers) and, watch him/her fall a part. She says, "lots of people die for what they have claim to seen," yet, can't give one example.

[@ImCeeJH]

Lots of people probably did die for what they claimed to have seen… but did they die for what they claimed to have seen knowing it was a bold face lie. No. That doesn’t happen. The woman you’re referring to doesn’t like references and evidence because she doesn’t like God. So instead she will do whatever she can to argue and prove that God doesn’t exist. It’s actually absurd people will argue and spend their time trying to disprove something they believe whole heartedly is a fairytale. The man in the white was even more ignorant. How does he think the documents written by Matthew , mark, Luke, and John are second hand documents? What does he want. Mark, John, Luke, and Matthew to video tape themselves in the first century? Does he expect them to live 2000 years to continue to tell their story? This is why it was written. This is what happens. No matter what evidence they gain it will never be enough because they love the creation more than the creator.

[@2DayDavid]

Maybe I could help her out 1. Suicide bombers like what happened at 9/11 2. Shinto follows like the Japanese fighter pilots on WW2 3. Marshall Applewhite follows 4. Jim Jones followers 5. Wiccan followers 6. Millions of soldiers in holy wars throughout history. Just to name a few. Just because someone experiences persecution for a belief doesn’t make the belief more true.

[@warriorforgod5949]

@@2DayDavid Before, you try to help anyone out, learn the difference between, dying for what you have believe from dying for what you have seen to be the truth.

[@2DayDavid]

@@warriorforgod5949 I was mistaken in that I did miss a reference mentioned above due to multitasking. For that I apologize. But I would like to discuss this further if you are willing. Are you saying the difference between dying for something you believe and dying for something you have seen to be true is seeing some sort of evidence? If that is the case are you saying the people in the list above had no evidence for their cause and had blind faith? Why would someone believe anything if they didn’t Think they have evidence for it? If that is not what you are saying I would like to better understand your thoughts

[@warriorforgod5949]

@@2DayDavid People can give their life for what they believe (Blind faith or not.). A difference is, would people die for a lie? Answer will be no. Some people will lie, deny the truth, just to live.; and there are people who die for the truth. key words are, "Eye witnesses." Let say, you are an eye witness, would you give your life and die for a lie? Pastor Cliffe (A speaker.) is making a point that disciples are eye witnesses. Who gave their life for the Truth(When they could of walked away live their life.), chose death for speaking the Truth (because, they saw.) "If that is the case are you saying the people in the list above had no evidence for their cause and had blind faith?" Let say they died for the evidence. Then, that is exactly proving pastor Cliffe's pointer view. Disciples are eye witnesses with evidences (They saw) that, gave their life for the Truth.

[@CHrist_is_KinG]

Thanks for what you do Cliff

[@andrewwright2309]

save your soul, save yourself, I thank GOD for showing me the way to an eternal life, now, the choice is for me to decide.

[@MissB1]

Amazing Cliffe ! God Bless you sir !

[@jamesbronson4380]

When your mind is SET Not to Believe, no matter how much evidence is set in front of you, you have decided Not to Believe.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

I have yet to encounter any evidence that suggest the existence of a god. Can _you_ provide any evidentiary fact that can substantiate your claim to such an existence? Yes or no.

[@ramptonarsecandle]

Faith is belief without evidence, if we had evidence we wouldn't need faith. There is no evidence for your god as if there was we would already all know it and we don't ergo your god is the same as every other god - a myth.

[@kenanbroersma709]

@@ramptonarsecandle Listen to this part. 11:15

[@YosafatNugraha]

Some kids want to talk for the sake of arguing. It's really sad that they didn't even at least open their mind to what the other people are saying. They'd rather be a hypocrite and claimed that they're robots than to admit that there's more than just meets the eye.

[@MrRonGonzales]

Another great video! I'd like to see how it ended with the guy with the papers and lady at the end. Did they continue fighting or did Cliffe answer their questions to their satisfaction? Unfortunately, most of these type of people aren't talking with Cliffe with the pursuit of truth at heart, but rather looking to out smart him or get him to stumble.

[@bonnie43uk]

how do you determine what is true and what is not true superguyfox?

[@blacksuburban2410]

There’s no such thing as a satisfactory answer to their questions because it’s not a matter of the head but rather a matter of the heart. They assumed (falsely) that an individual standing on biblical knowledge was gonna be an intellectual pushover. And that’s because of another point Cliffe earlier raised regarding the false dichotomy between science and Belief.

[@taramckinley7585]

Yes, their sarcastic and self-righteous "gotcha" questions are irrational, at best. Cliffe has the patience of a Saint.

[@diogogouveia3317]

11:08 thats how i played with my friends when i was a child.

[@carolinetapia8568]

HAPPY SABBATH, CLIFF⭐️🇨🇭✨🇨🇭🌟🇨🇭❗️

[@godislove363]

Happy Sabbatn, I wish he would recognize the truth of Sabbath.

[@carolinetapia8568]

@@godislove363 Cliff‘s father kept the Sabbath and preached about it around the world. His father‘s name was Emilio Knechtle and his highest wish was ... that one day all his six children would keep the Sabbath too. He came from Switzerland ... my country🇨🇭.

[@godislove363]

@@carolinetapia8568 sad, zip know many whom have fallen away. We can pray he will come out of it.

[@carolinetapia8568]

@@godislove363 Yes ... we have to pray for him and all the others🙏🏼. Jesus will come soon✨.

[@godislove363]

@@carolinetapia8568 that is for sure Caroline. I am an Adventist in the states, where are you? Also, I am Christ centered first Advrntist second. God has been quite patient with me.

[@sayezulu8071]

Darkness has not overcome the last light this brother shines he’s free in true

[@J0PHIEL]

That dude really came in with printed papers thinking he could take down Cliff..Is funny how these people come in thinking they know so much more than a person studying for their whole life, debating brilliant scholars across the globe..pride really does come before the fall

[@albeltra8]

Agent smith couldn’t…

[@jpduffy2003]

Especially when they themselves are using biased records and opinions of others and not anything they discovered following actual evidence. They want to disbelieve, clearly, and so find what they want that echos their beliefs. Not evidence based.

[@J0PHIEL]

@@jpduffy2003 yep

[@nakdot46]

I think the first guy with the red shirt is the definition of casting your pearls before swine.

[@Mikey-oe2go]

Students who are not smart at all just coming up trying to get a laugh from the crowd is so annoying. I couldn’t do what cliff does without getting into trouble.

[@atheist-karate-guy]

Cliff is an idiot, he has zero argument, and I’m amazed that some people don’t see that.

[@godislove363]

@@atheist-karate-guy you as most do not l, seek no truth.

[@atheist-karate-guy]

@@godislove363 you don’t seek truth? I do.

[@godislove363]

@@atheist-karate-guy sorry for my typo, I do seek truth.

[@atheist-karate-guy]

@@godislove363 you seek the truth, but listen to buffoons like Cliffe?

[@WhatTruthIs]

If you tell a man that God is demanding no good works of him whatsoever, no religious observances or church ordinances, that God is not asking him to undertake any duties at all, but that God invites him to believe a glad message that his sins have already been dealt with at the Cross, and that God expects him to believe this good news and be exceedingly happy about it. If you tell an unsaved man such a story at this, he is astonished and overwhelmed-yet this is the Gospel! Our Apostle, Paul, reveals the following great doctrines; 1. The unrighteousness before God of all men. 2. The impossibility of justification by works before God- that is, of any man’s attaining a standing of righteousness before God by anything done by him. Do what a man may, he is a condemned sinner still. 3. The fact and the Scripturalness of righteousness on the free gift principle-that is, of Divine righteousness, separate from all man’s doings, conferred upon man as a free gift from God. 4. Propitiation-that satisfaction of God’s Holy Nature and law for man’s sins rendered by Christ’s blood. 5. Reconciliation-the removal by Christ’s death for man of that obstacle to righteousness which man’s sin had set up between God and man. 6. The plan of the actual conferring of the gift of righteousness upon all who believe, without any distinction. This change of a sinner’s standing before God, from one of condemnation to one of righteousness, is called Justification. Negatively, it is deliverance from guilt on account of Christ’s shed blood and deliverance out of the old creation by identification in death with Christ on the Cross. Positively, it is a new standing in the risen Christ before God. 7. Redemption-the buying back of the soul through the blood of Christ from sin; from the curse of the law-even death, involving exclusion from God under penalty; from the "power of death," which involves the hand of the enemy; and from all iniquity. 8. Forgiveness-the going forth of Divine tenderness in remitting the penalty for sin in view of the blood of Christ trusted in, and in complacency and fellowship to creatures who before were necessarily under Divine judgment. 9. Remission of sins-that is, the actual removing of transgressions or trespasses from the sinner, so that for all time and eternity his sins shall not again be upon him. 10. Identification-(see above, Justification). The great fact that those who are in Christ were united with Him at the Cross by God’s sovereign inscrutable act and were crucified with Christ and buried with Him, so that their history is now ended before God. And when Christ was raised up as the Firstborn of the new creation, they also were raised up with Him and their history began as new creatures in God’s sight in Christ, the Last Adam. Of course, in the experience of the Christian there comes a time when he is actually made partaker of this new life-that point of time when he is, as we say, saved, or converted, or born again, etc. Nevertheless, the life that is in every Christian came up out of the Tomb, and it is in Christ Jesus that a man is created anew. 11. Incorporation-This tremendous doctrine Paul alone mentions, and he makes it practically the foundation of all his exhortations to the saints with regard to their conduct and life. By "incorporation" we mean the fact that all those who are really saved and are new creatures in Christ Jesus become members of one organism (called "the Body of Christ"), which is more real than the very earth we tread upon-Christ Himself in Heaven being the Head of this Body and every real Christian a member of it. So that believers are thus members of Christ in Heaven and also members one of another here on earth. No wonder Paul is able to exhort the saints to love one another when they are members one of another! (Rom. 12; 1 Cor. 12; Eph. 4). 12. Inhabitation-The wonderful fact that the Body of Christ and each member of it individually is inhabited, indwelt, by the Holy Spirit Himself, and not only so, but that the Church is being "built together" as a great temple of God so that in the future God’s actual eternal dwelling place will be this wonderful, mysterious company built into a building called "a holy habitation of God in the Spirit." This mystery is a great and marvelous one-the fact that we are saved, are partakers now of the life of the Lord in glory, that the Holy Spirit indwells us. 13. Divine Exhibition-That is, that through the Church in the ages to come is to be made known that which God counts His "riches," even His Grace (Eph. 2:7,3:10). Paul in his wonderful revelation declares that God hath reconciled the world to Himself; that God was in Christ (at the Cross) reconciling the world unto Himself (2 Cor. 5:19). Men do not know this, but they conceive that something stands between them and God before God will accept or forgive them. 2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. Romans 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one: Romans 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Romans 6:23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. 1 Corinthians 15:21 For since by man came death, by man came also the resurrection of the dead. 22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. 10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them. Ephesians 1:7 In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace; Colossians 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. 13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 1 Corinthians 15:3 For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4 And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 1 Timothy 3: And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory. To be able to experience moral compunction so you can turn back to God, please hear Him speak to you, by hearing Him speak to you in Romans 1:18-3:20 Romans 1:18-3:20 classic.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=rom.+1%3A18-3%3A20&version=KJV

[@rackzz9358]

those first dudes are something 🤦‍♂️

[@alexanderstephen1567]

Spoiled kids...

[@Sergedb74]

Wow, outstanding!

[@goldengaming177]

seems like students get more aggressive and hostile as time goes on...

[@atheist-karate-guy]

Ya, that’s what happens when you ask an honest question and get demonstrated nonsense, He makes no logical argument only emotional reasons… that’s just dumb

[@spacecoastz4026]

@@atheist-karate-guy Yikes...you must be a college kid.

[@atheist-karate-guy]

@@spacecoastz4026 I’m not sure what you mean.

[@godislove363]

These Are old, but yes each decade it gets worse as the Bible foretold.

[@cbassthefirst1343]

@@atheist-karate-guy that’s the byproduct of America. We pump our children with vaccines, GMOs, and other nonsensical trash, and expect an Albert Einstein to be made. Even Einstein was not so ignorant as to dismiss our Lord.

[@brianmoss3038]

Scary to think these people will ever teach anybody. If they were my children’s teachers I’d remove them from that school.

[@ChIblcHaN]

The first kids he talked to were just out to try and make the pastor look like a fool. They had no intention of actually trying to learn or discuss openly.

[@davidlarsen1981]

That wasn't very hard. And he was correct. We ARE just a complex chemical reaction. A collection of multiple organisms, and intelligence is an emergent property of that.

[@Josiahministries]

@@davidlarsen1981 did your chemical reactions make you comment here?

[@ImCeeJH]

@@Josiahministries I was about to ask the same question?

[@ImCeeJH]

@@Josiahministries it’s weird this guys chemical reaction led him to a video on something he thinks is a fairytale so he can waste his short, insignificant life to argue about it.

[@Josiahministries]

@@ImCeeJH I have free will given by God, not only led by my chemicals or environment. What about you?

[@ryanesau8147]

The problem is most of these people aren’t actually looking for truth , they are adamantly fighting truths and are willfully blind. Come across this all the time.

[@fishouttawtr]

These students are "hopped up" on lies taught by their professors! They treat these lies as fact without researching for themselves!

[@choosejesus1910]

The truth is hard to accept for people that love sin.

[@fishouttawtr]

@@choosejesus1910 Amen!

[@godislove363]

@@choosejesus1910 Amen.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

Can you provide an example of one of these 'lies' their professors are teaching them?

[@fishouttawtr]

@@theoskeptomai2535 do you have a degree? Or, are you currently in school?

[@Psa22-6]

This shows me i need way more patience, people like the chick and the guy at the end get me absolutely infuriated.

[@baybornbalkanbaby7277]

The way of fools seems right to them, but the wise listen to advice (Proverbs 12:15).

[@KingSoraProductions]

3:38 ..............................."Why do I have to keep living?" ...................LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@larzman651]

But , but I got a piece of paper and wiki said so 😂

[@seekfind9531]

Subscribed

[@spacecoastz4026]

The last two "students" illustrates the dangers of knowing a small fragment of Scripture...and then misunderstanding that fragment. Cliffe did an excellent job in pointing out their error, but I'm not sure they comprehended their mistake.

[@godislove363]

Amen.

[@taramckinley7585]

Exactly. I think they weren't remotely interested in comprehending their mistakes.

[@kalobrogers235]

Cliffe is a savage.

[@offshelfbooks]

Cliffe: "So it's my biochemical reactions that forced me to be mean" Student: "It's not...it's uhh...your...uhh...specific..like your..uhh..how you..uhh..base..uh..your..sss..uh..." Student: ERROR 404 Cliffe: "I know it's hard."

[@j.whisper2379]

Pretty easy answer! We all have genetic predispositions, however we are also influnced by our environment. Pitbull owners always say it is not the dog, it is the owner. They are, of course, partially correct. However, you cannot compare a Golden Retrievers temperament to a Pitbulls although they are both dogs.

[@j.whisper2379]

Many guys who take steroids to amp up their testosterone are known to be mean!

[@kryptokn]

@@j.whisper2379 Therefore such emotions are caused by chemical reactions in the brain, partly affected by genetics, drugs and our environement. - is what you are trying to say, or is it completely by the aformentioned? (with all the causes not mentioned) Then does it answer if the emotions displayed are morally and ethically right at the moment of display?

[@kryptokn]

@@j.whisper2379 You see, your response contributed to another part of the discussion which is no way connected to Meaning, Morality, Destiny and Origin of all human beings which the video dabbles upon.

[@j.whisper2379]

@@kryptokn ! There are multiple parts to the discusion Off the shelf picked up on one I chose to reply to. What's your point?

[@robertadams73]

This Guy who came in with a paper Is hilarious!!

[@chumimithree8085]

some people are just after a happiness quest and not a truth quest. SMH

[@choosejesus1910]

Good luck achieving happiness without the truth.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

Are _you_ on a truth quest?

[@theoskeptomai2535]

@@choosejesus1910 And what is "the truth"?

[@chumimithree8085]

@@choosejesus1910 agreed

[@chumimithree8085]

@@theoskeptomai2535 yes with jesus by my side.

[@NewCreationInChrist896]

1 Peter 3:15 “But in your hearts sanctify Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give a defense to everyone who asks you the reason for the hope that is in you. But respond with gentleness and respect,”

[@joannedupreez9230]

The first part is the closest i have heard anyone on KZbin coming to the position held by Seventh day adventists. Thank you for making this abundantly clear.

[@godislove363]

Yes, the Bible is quite clear about Loving God and Keepinh His Commandments, but the mosaic laws/ceremonial laws were nailed to the Cross.

[@godislove363]

Do you believe the flat earth theory.

[@stacystarnes1449]

Another fragmented misinterpretation of the scriptures.

[@stacystarnes1449]

@@godislove363 Nobody with a brain does.

[@donzanz9001]

I think red t shirt guy just wants to argue for the sake of it.He ends up looking just a bit silly.

[@alexanderstephen1567]

A bit?

[@erichenkel4393]

The 2nd kid wants to be right so badly he won’t even play along with the argument and the prospect of eternal life that everyone would want

[@BADASSDaniDusk]

❤🙏🙌

[@michaeljdt9235]

I’m surprised the first 2 guys got given so much time

[@tonnysmax393]

Romans 4:5But to him that WORKETH NOT, BUT BELIEVETH on HIM that JUSTIFIETH the UNGODLY, his FAITH is COUNTED for RIGHTEOUSNESS. 2:02

[@nikokapanen82]

Dont do the basic mistake and ignore the rest of the Bible. Read James what genuine faith produce.

[@tonnysmax393]

@@nikokapanen82 We do works because we are saved not to be saved or to keep us saved, because our security is in Christ not in what we do. That is why you need to believe in the Gospel (1Cor15 1-4) and really trust in His finish work on the cross.

[@tonnysmax393]

@@nikokapanen82 If you do not understand the simplicity that is in Christ (2 Corinthians 11:3KJV) that is up to you. All Christ asks of you is that you TRUST Him(Ephesians 1:13KJV) and BELIEVE the GOSPEL(1Cor15 1-4KJV).

[@nikokapanen82]

@@tonnysmax393 If you claim you know Jesus yet there is no change, no sanctification, no difference in your behavior, then you are deceiving yourself and dont yet know Him at all.

[@tonnysmax393]

@@nikokapanen82 Those who believe and trust in Him, are already known by God and we know Him (Galatians 4:9KJV). Also, according to the Bible the only way we are saved is by grace, not grace + works of the law(Romans 11:6KJV), but if somone decide to mix those two for salvation, they will end up in hell since grace will be without effect(Galatians 5:4KJV). Also, sanctification will be AFTER you are saved, for some it may take days, months and for others even years, but that is not why they are saved. After all, that is why it is important to put our trust in His sacrifice on the cross for our sins, because that is the only reason we will be saved by grace through faith in Christ alone. --->For by GRACE are ye SAVED through FAITH; and that NOT of YOURSELVES: it is the GIFT of GOD: NOT of WORKS, lest any man should boast. Ephesians 2:8-9 KJV

[@maranatha8524]

Young people - at least these students are asking questions. Will they listen and know the Lord Jesus? They are currently blind. We can only 🙏 pray.

[@theoskeptomai2535]

How did you come to conclude that this Jesus ever existed?

[@godislove363]

@@theoskeptomai2535 @saint paul 70 comments down on the theo thread of the. SHOULD WE LEARN FROM AND LIVE WITH SOCEITY.

[@godislove363]

70 comments down on the theo thread of the. SHOULD WE LEARN FROM AND LIVE WITH SOCEITY.

[@godislove363]

70 comments down on the theo thread of the. SHOULD WE LEARN FROM AND LIVE WITH SOCEITY.

[@godislove363]

Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy Name, thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread. And forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever and ever. Amen.

[@JamesRichardWiley]

Dear Cliff, Why ask college students questions they don't know how to answer? Instead, check the work of Neuroscientists who specialize in this field for your answers. You have already decided that "Jesus" or "God" is your answer - one that cannot be tested - only accepted.

[@godislove363]

You are holding a biased position. He actually has searched out things. He is human and is not right about all, none of us are. I as well search out answers.

[@jasonnoble7814]

Great question 👍 I believe it's because these students are easy targets and at a age where most people decide a worldview to live by

[@bonnie43uk]

@@jasonnoble7814 I see where you're coming from Jason, but, to be fair to Cliffe, he's doing what a lot of pastors and priests are very reluctant to do ..to welcome questions from atheist students, i give him credit for that. Most preach to the converted.

[@BlazingNip]

Lmao the guy who say he doesnt want Enteral life because he will be Tired. Is probably the same guy who doesnt want to die when its time to die ppl dont realize what they really be sayin smh. Example Like if he had an accident rn God forbid and his life was on the line its almost guarante he will be Scared and sayin he doesnt want to die. Ppl dont realize how bad is until its to late. Dont be hard headed ya its not a video game we only get 1 chance.

[@jrc99us]

That is a first! I have never heard such blatant ignorance when the dude with the papers actaully suggested that the Gospels were secondhand accounts from Paul. 🤣🤣🤣 That is THE MOST desperate attempt at trying to disprove Christ.

[@bonnie43uk]

The history books don't actually have a lot on the actual life of Jesus, outside of the New Testament there is not much out there in terms of factual accounts. It's almost as if he didn't really exist.

[@jrc99us]

@@bonnie43uk you're joking right? Josephus Tacitus Pilney the Younger The Babylonian Talmud Lucian You have deliberately ignored that Cliffe in NUMEROUS vids has point out the the Non-Biblical sources verifying Jesus as a historical person. That was another sad example of deliberate ignorance!

[@bonnie43uk]

@@jrc99us Tell me how long after Jesus died ( do we know the exact date of his crucifixion)? did Josephus write about Jesus? .. you do know that Josephus was an expert historian on the history of the Jews.. that said, he wrote masses of literature on Jewish antitquities, the stuff he wrote about Jesus could be written on the back of a bus ticket. Many biblical scholars believe that the things he wrote about Jesus was a much later interpolation by Christian scholars trying to shoe horn Jesus into the history books. jrc, did *anyone* write about Jesus *during* the time he was performing all those miracles?, name me one person.

[@jrc99us]

@@bonnie43uk if you have been on this channel for the last 10 years you KNOW the answer to that. 🤨🤨🤨

[@bonnie43uk]

@@jrc99us The answer is *nobody* wrote about Jesus *during* the time he was supposedly performing incredible miracles. That should ring alarm bells for anyone seeking the truth. We're told that Jesus performed feats and wonders of supernatural miracles in front of thousands of people, over and over, all over 1st century Judea, yet *nobody* thought of writing it down as it happened until at least a decade after??? That stretches credibility to the limit. John's gospel was written decades and decades after the supposed events, I dont think there are *any* Christian scholars to the best of my knowledge who say these Gospel accounts were written as and when they occurred in real-time. I've kept a diary for the past 20 years, I keep a daily record of my life and the things that happen in the news that interest me.. it would be impossible for me not to write down significant events *on the day they occurred* .. the thought of writing about what happened on 9/11 for at least a decade or more would be insane. Yesterday I wrote about the Taliban entering the outskirts of Kabul and the prospect of people in Afghanistan almost certainly having to live under extreme Islamic rule. What were Matthew Mark Luke and John writing about when they witnessed the so called Son of God coming back to life after being crucified? .. would that be a noteworthy thing to write down? I'd have thought so jrc, I'd have certainly written down the exact day, month and year. I can tell you my exact movements on any given day for the last 20 years or more. As an ex Christian, realizing that this Jesus person was almost certainly not the person that the Gospel writers wrote about, that's a huge deal for me. Cliffe states in virtually every video to "read the gospels, read the literary style" .. I have, over and over, and they read to me like story prose, not actual events in time. When I write something down of significance i would never include actual back and forth sentences that people have spoken to eachother, that's a well proven literary style of someone writing a story. "And lo, Jesus said unto them..." And it came to pass etc. Can you see where I'm coming from jrc?

[@jeromejenkins7976]

Too many college students are Lost and full of Pride. They are foolish to deny The Lord.

[@valroniclehre193]

This position is and always has been a garbage appeal to bias. Asking if we are merely physical parts is like asking if the Mona Lisa is just oil and canvas. The technical answer to both of these is yes, and believers seem to think this means we don't have value as people or values as thinking beings. Let me put this to rest for any honest mind. The value of a given system, ethically speaking, is unrelated to its component parts, and completely dependent on the emergent properties those parts produce. If I make a robot of plastic and metal, that has the full emotional spectrum, I have an ethical obligation to that robot, just as I would to any organic living system. Origins have nothing to do with the value of a life. This is one of the many ethical failures encouraged by stupid, vile, destructive religions, like christianity.

[@JakeAdkinsOfficial]

Based on your description, you assigned value to something subjectively based on your interpretation of its properties. In doing so, you have defended a subjective morality, which is a collapsible argument. For example, if someone is born with an emotional deficiency and entirely rational, or if someone is intellectually disabled, they become less valuable. You can't arbitrarily decide on an ethical standard for assigning value. It's not logically coherent. What are your thoughts on this? I am also wondering why you chose to close your argument with distasteful closing remarks? Why are you trying to insult, ridicule, and belittle the people you are speaking to? Do you find that ethically correct?

[@theoskeptomai2535]

@@JakeAdkinsOfficial Objective moral _values?_ Do you have any clue as to the meaning of valuation. Value represents the _relative_ worth, merit, or importance by the individual or party composing the evaluation. Valuations are _never_ objective. They are always subjective to the individual _evaluating._ Morality is the process of differentiating between intentions, decisions, and actions that are appropriate from those inappropriate. Each and every individual is the sole arbiter of his/her own morality. Likewise, each and every individual is soley responsible, accountable, and culpable for the intentions, decisions, and actions based upon those moral assessments. Would you agree?

[@godislove363]

@@theoskeptomai2535 70 comments down on the theo thread of the. SHOULD WE LEARN FROM AND LIVE WITH SOCEITY.

[@valroniclehre193]

@@JakeAdkinsOfficial Aww my reply never got posted. Danget I put some effort into that and just now noticed it isn't there. ok lazy version ... "You can't arbitrarily decide on an ethical standard for assigning value. It's not logically coherent. What are your thoughts on this?" Don't have to, and didn't, but the details of value aren't my point. My point is that factoring in origins as an aspect of a value system is a non starter.

[@valroniclehre193]

@@theoskeptomai2535 I would actually argue that despite your well phrased description, you are missing something important. We also have instincts to observe an operational standard that persists beyond our own lives. This isn't an argument against any of what you have said, but rather that an appreciation beyond immediate result is an undeniable feature of human morality.

[@AreaFiftyJuan]

Is that Ricky Fowler in the Red Sox cap and red shirt? lol

[@Matthew-Clark1980]

These kids for the most part are just so eager to argue against following Jesus and the evidence that supports His life,death, and resurrection that they're willing to blindly disagree with Cliff no matter what he says, regardless of his talking points based on his own research. Sad.

[@Hernsama]

Would have love to see more

[@knxcholx]

8:50 I think the reality started to hit and then he couldn't understand what was happening. I would've had to dismiss myself from that guy with the sunglasses!!!! Oh my gosh, how arrogant and condescending! So infuriating!

[@danielhoover2394]

It is infuriating. It's like he knows exactly what Cliffe is talking about but is so intellectually dishonest he can't bring himself to admit the truth.

[@londonspencer1965]

Crazy how this video is from 3 days ago, but looks more like it was recorded 10 years ago?!? The style of dressing there is so different compared to Cali!

[@godislove363]

Because it was. They are reuploads.

[@paulwilfridhunt]

Zephaniah 3:17 The LORD thy God in the midst of thee is mighty; he will save, he will rejoice over thee with joy; he will rest in his love, he will joy over thee with singing God’s word is breezing our thinking like a sweet breeze, bringing us secret joys and summertime joys, in the blink an eye like a sweet lullaby.

[@stacystarnes1449]

Who wrote that? Who was he writing to? Context is key. We can't pull that out and apply it to us how we deem appropriate.

[@paulwilfridhunt]

@@stacystarnes1449 We obtain this belief of God’s love and caring from Scripture, albeit that it was originally written at a different time for different circumstances.

[@realcirno1750]

the apologist looks so frustrated i probably would be too if i were him having to repeat everything 3 times

[@tituskiptoo1664]

Man, is that the Holy Spirit giving you answers? When they ask you questions am like man, what you gonna say but surprisingly you have the answers and the Bible references

[@emrald9963]

Yes when the Spirit came to us The Holy Spirit helps us remember His Word and His teachings, so that we may be ready when for whatever may come.

[@light_at_the_end_of_the_tu1350]

Keep sowing seed's cliffe

[@maccusmc]

Cliffe doesn't debate, he just preaches. You should see how he did against someone who isn't a high-schooler in Matt Dillahunty.

[@zoomkaboom1]

Cliffe is not really a debater. His gift is more of an evangelical conversationalist. Having convos and questions with the audience. Making them think. We all have different ministries serving under Christ. We all cant be good at everything.

[@ProMaxElite]

He’s listening to their questions and answering them. What’s your definition of ‘debate’?

[@seanhunt6567]

6:55 this guy screams natty lights and games all day.

[@Dante-mw2ez]

I’ve never met a Christian who says science is evil and education is evil, but if I did I’d have an issue.

[@J0PHIEL]

lol God bless Cliff for his patience...those kids..omg soooooo whats the word, stupid? its not that they disagreed its that they did not even know or under why and what they are saying

[@AllanRochez]

I’m getting rush hour 3 vibes from the me thing lol

[@joaquinlopez9309]

WAS HE AT UA 2 WEEKS AGO??? If so I’m so sad! I would have loved to meet him 🥴

[@davidplummer2473]

Many if not most of those kamikaze pilots were boozed or doped up to calm their nerves because not all of them were volunteers. Those that did volunteer were not fighting for a lie. They were trying to save Japan from invasion, which would have happened if not for the a-bombs and USSR entering the war. The only way this comparison would work is if they believed their cause was a lie, that Japan was a horrible country and people not worth saving, but volunteered anyway.

[@jojomayerfan4356]

The dude with glasses in red t shirt tried to look clever but only made it more embarrasing for himself the longer he went on.

[@sayezulu8071]

He said last see this building not one stone will be on top of thee other

[@blackhaze8233]

Anyone know when that will start uploading NEW videos instead of these old one's??. I miss Cliff.

[@godislove363]

No sorry, especially since covid and all have to madk up etc...

[@bonnie43uk]

Clearly when it's safe to do so BLACK HAZE, As I understand it covid is still raging in many states because people refuse to get vaccinated.

[@dperkins01]

The miraculous wonderful allows you to create the illusion of yourself. The biochemical reaction form over a lifetime.

[@confessedrock7358]

So basically if Cliffe got angry, or rather, his chemicals and carbon bonds got angry, and hit that other chemicals and carbon bonds friend who is also chemicals and carbon bonds; then it was only chemical and carbon bonds that were out of order for some reason interacting with themselves.

[@rossmoodie8489]

That was a beat down. Jesus is King !

[@theoskeptomai2535]

How did you come to conclude that this Jesus ever existed?

[@theoskeptomai2535]

No response?

[@emmanuel1634]

7Q5 papiro (Mark's Gospel) was written 20 years AT MOST after the death of Christ. You have a miracle right there. Jesus actually prophesied the destruction of the Temple.

[@davidskaar3232]

These minds in a classroom with a liberal teacher driven to make atheists out these students truly hurts. God bless Cliff.

[@nickfranco7977]

What is the email address if I’d like to find out where and when’s the next time Cliff will be speaking at UT?

[@walterdaems57]

Don’t ask people who choose to believe about complex thoughts, that’s just so unfair!

[@Lionelmachtvideos]

"i know its hard" 😭😭😭💀