Asmongold Reacts to FFXIV Dawntrail - Graphical Update

[@boozie773]

The big difference is in the environments and materials examples not necessarily the player models. The colors pop way more. They said they still want your character to look like your character.

[@Carsu12]

Also hair is not as pixelated lol

[@Puddingskin01]

Finally getting rid of that horrible grey film over everything will be a massive improvement.

[@KZeni]

Right. The overall lighting, physically based materials (metals, etc.), and environment textures & details (definitely vegetation) were the bigger aspects of the graphical update. Kinda unfortunate this only highlighted what might be the most subtle part of the update.

[@spigg-i1p]

Remember the grapes…

[@kudaty1808]

​@@spigg-i1pThey said they can't make more polygons, so xd

[@tciddados]

I think the main thing is that FF14 explicitly didn't change the player models too much to avoid people hating their new characters. I think they could have upped the graphical fidelity a lot on all races if they really needed to, but it'd be at a risk of changing how people saw their characters. WoW changed their character models and I know a decent amount of people saw the new orc/etc models and thought they looked a lot goofier than the old models and didn't really like the change.

[@Mochachocakon]

Tauren went from badass to goofy pixar characters. I like this a lot, my Miqo gonna be hot af 😍

[@MagiRemmie]

I'm actually glad most of the improvements are just to texture resolution and less jaggy models. XIV's artstyle keeps it looking good.

[@Monstermash355]

That's just cope but okay

[@Elliriah]

Just give everyone glamour change for free, problem solved

[@AkaroXIV]

My warlock went from a black dude to a mexican dude in Warlords, just upping the texturing is much better than going through that again.

[@heroicxidiot]

If you want to know the difference, look at the eyes. They look and feel flat before but now look a bit more real and not just painted onto the model. You can notice it on the hair and horns but it's easy to miss

[@Thienthan]

and how it went from Flat Ear to actual Modeled Ears

[@jag764]

The female Elezen difference was HUGE, I dunno how people can't see it it's like they're blind or something

[@nodot17]

​@@jag764I always the female elezan faces looked the most dated so I definitely noticed

[@raineheartily4580]

YoshiP noted that its a mild grapical update and don't expect too much. Its does have better hair details and new and better facial texture map with better lighting interaction. Don't quite remember it right, but the last big update (or this upcoming update) was Housing capacity expansion thanks to new server farm.

[@Vivi_Strike]

1 year later: As of this day, Final Fantasy XIV will no longer be playable on the PlayStation 4, effectively marking the end of Final Fantasy MMO support for the previous console generation.

[@sidenote1459]

ahhh I see so if you announce that a patch is mid, then it's ok to be mid. makes sense

[@KZeni]

The part this video shows of the graphical update is probably the most subtle part of the update. They definitely had more to show than this.

[@YourMomsAltAccount]

@@sidenote1459 🤡🤡🤡

[@cattysplat]

@@Vivi_Strike Wouldn't surprise me if Sony is giving them incentive to do so to push more PS5 sales. PS4 is reaching it's 10 year anniversary. But this game engine was originally designed to run on PS3 so it's still fundamentally limited and apart from this graphics update, runs fine on PS4 30fps.

[@Lagzlot]

One thing to keep in mind is that this is an mmo, which means they need to show a lot of characters and other assets at the same time. A little improvement here and there really adds up when applied to who knows how many characters and objects (especially to gear textures and environments, not seen in this clip). They tried to make an mmo with the best looking character models of all time before, and we all know how that ended up.

[@ChrisBabaganoosh]

People actually expecting FF16-level character fidelity when potentially 100+ characters have to be rendered at the same time are delusional.

[@jaybee4288]

It’s funny how if this was wow announcing a graphical overhaul and just tweaking a few lights they’d actually get death threats. But because it’s Yoshi P it’s just not a big deal, we didn’t need an update anyway because the game is perfect etc etc. The difference in mindset is just weird to me. This is shit and not what they promised.

[@Shots0Clock]

@@jaybee4288 Eh, what? You're pretty delusional even believing that. WoW had a graphical update a long time ago and people loved it.

[@theum2138]

@@jaybee4288 I have no idea what shit you guys are smoking, but you gotta hop off it. Some people just have a vendetta that people treat Yoshi P positively and there's a reason to it and that's because players will treat developers kinder if they are honest and open to changes. If WOW is shit and continues to be shit, then the players will continue to treat it like shit, what else is there to say?

[@Desu-Desu-Chan-San]

@@jaybee4288 What? They have said all along it was not going to be groundbreaking, that they were adding a better lighting engine, upscaled textures, and materials. MULTIPLE dev live letters have gone over this, they have shown progress over and over again, everybody in the community knew what it was going to look like almost a year ago. Your criticism comes from a outside, misinformed view. None of the devs ever said it was a massive overhaul, it has always been a simple upgrade.

[@squidapple9662]

Unfortunately fade transitions are never the best way to show incremental changes like this, overall it's a nice update

[@hhectorlector]

Yeah wtf were they thinking with that lmao

[@Lyu-Phy]

True the real effect and upgrade is in the game combined with 7.0 which is yet to come out, improvements, areas, lighting etc. So while this fade transition doesnt look bad, the potential is much higher.

[@itsnotpan.]

It may not seem like a significant change, but in a crowded area with various environmental factors, it will be quite noticeable.

[@dafire9634]

the biggest update is in the lighting and shading of the environments and how those affect your character, people often heavily underestimate just how big of an influence "good lighting" is, to making a game look good

[@TheDeliciousMystery]

I think they've played it very safe for a good reason. When WoW did its character model revamps there were a lot of people, mostly people who played dwarves, forsaken and humans logging in after a prepatch going "why doesn't my character look like my character anymore". Not even "this is a bad model". Simply "this is not my character anymore" and after a decade+ with said character you dont want to see a patch suddenly change it forever in a way you dont like and will always be staring you in the face.

[@BrodieRobertson]

There's nothing surprising about the graphics update, we already saw what it was going to look like months ago, now we just have a few more examples.

[@chadtheall682]

You notice the changes in characters like the Lala's and Mi'qote's because of the bigger eyes you can really see the increase in material reflections and the shaders, but ALSO keep in mind you're gonna really see the improvements in actual gameplay BECAUSE the materials(like glossier reflective eyes, skin textures, etc) show off better with the new lighting, so when you move your character around you're gonna see how the light changes as you turn and move your character, so it IS definitely an improvement. I personally wish they made it even more polygons and such but...

[@lucylu3342]

Accounting for the fact that they still intend for the new expansion to be playable on PS4, I'm pretty okay with this graphical update. The PS4 audience is a pretty large part of the playerbase, so I'm guessing they can't just ditch that console to add in a substantial graphics update comparable to the graphics of FF16 or something. I'm more excited to see the new areas and the new classes though, this little touch up is a nice extra thing to enjoy lol

[@jonton9228]

Weebs coping, this looks like shit. "WoW killer" my ass with these Ps2 graphics

[@MrCharly780]

Pirate for range dps pls

[@mattr.1804]

Why don’t people just get a ps5 already? Kinda wild to me how long people will hold off on getting new hardware. It isn’t that difficult to get aside 50 dollars a paycheck and have yourself a spankin new console is like 11-12 weeks. People are just too irresponsible with their money these days.

[@wiziek]

@@mattr.1804 because there are still games coming on ps4 and system works? that's like asking why folks won't get new computer, well their old one works and runs games (even if they have hdd bleh)

[@mattr.1804]

@@wiziek just incase you didn’t know: you can play ps4 games on a shiny new ps5. Stop being so irresponsible with your money.

[@rosestemss]

Reminder: This is still not the final product of the player model/environment and material example graphic update. Hence the bottom right.

[@ItsMeFranz01]

Its much more clearer now compared to the old one which is pixelated a bit. Since its early development its really hard to say something.

[@mattr.1804]

“More clearer”

[@alexander1055]

If this wasn't what the final Product will look like they wouldn't have shown it. Don't expect more, this is it.

[@TorManiak]

​@@alexander1055I mean, they haven't shown everything(environments look way better if you didn't look at it somewhere else), and they still expressed that some things could still change anyways, since the graphical update is going to be coming with the next expansion, in a year from now.

[@CL-jq1xs]

​@@alexander1055another fan fest and it looks similar. I doubt they will make any noticeable improvement since they have already announced system requirements. More likely for them to spent time on applying the graphic update to more older assets.

[@DefenderX]

You can see they have increased the number of polygons

[@TheVitaltundra]

Them adding what appears like sub surface scattering makes all the difference on the skin and horns. The hair also is much higher resolution and cast shadows and ambient occlusion.

[@Carsu12]

Probably the biggest improvement is higher res textures on hair

[@Dieci-9]

For sure. Also, the eyes and light and shading are really noticeable for some or the races. Plus, the update is extended also to fashion items, weapons and environments.

[@Carsu12]

@@Dieci-9 thank fuck. It's so jarring to look at 360p textures in full HD xD

[@sketrick732]

Just use 2x textures it fixes hair.

[@Zantetsudex]

You can never go too drastic with an update like this. They even explained why like a year ago.

[@arainbowinthedark2]

Probably not going to get him to come back and play but nice to know he watched a little of it.

[@red5robb1]

the environmental graphical update is sooooo much better than the character ones

[@dougfax]

Show me them feet Feet will confirm if it is an upgrade or not

[@TatsuyaWow]

RTX ?

[@MakarovO4Real]

Now, without downloading at least 1600 mods to make it more peeling

[@unloyal4847]

I expected this and I'm honestly more happier than if they did a total overhaul, most of us mmo people are attached to our characters and for them to "drastically change" might do more harm than good, so this more high poly smoother faces imo is better than say if they went and upgrade to bdo graphics. NOW the REAAAAL question is if they updated their feet from boxes to actual feet model.

[@ouromov2895]

All I want for Christmas is chat bubbles.

[@anguswong2138]

People have to remember the fact that they have to make it able to run on those old PS4 and PS4 pro after the update (I don't know about other Data Centers, but a lot of Asian including JP player's still running this game on old consoles). Due to this, Yoshi P can only do so much with the game engine and the new textures. It's possible that the devs can make extra graphic improvments and upgrades on PC version, but I doubt the possibility since I guess Yoshi P won't allow such differences on gaming experience between platforms (especially when people are paying roughly the same price on all platforms). The recommended PC specs after 7.0 update are said to be RTX2060 and i7-9700(non K), it surely is some old GPU and CPU by today's standard, but it's still a huge jump comparing with the current recommended specs. Although the upgrade will most likely not to affect me (13600K, 4070Ti), around 10 of my friends in XIV had to try their best to upgrade their PC with their super tight budgets. (some of them even playing this game with old second hand 1050 + 3rd gen i5 under 720p). FFXIV used to be able to run on PS3 too, Yoshi P's team took ages to make sure that most player had upgrade their consoles to PS4 or PC, and then finally ended its support. So it's possible there will be another upgrade after PS4 ends its support.

[@ZechOfTheWest]

Hairs and eyes are higher rez. lighting reflections some slight structure adjustments and a few more polygons It's subtle but it is good. We dont want a massive change where our character no longer looks like our character. So a smaller adjustment is fine. The biggest changes are in the environments.

[@VenatFFXIV]

You can´t change it too much. The character's appearance must still be relatable to the players and not change too much. With WoW, for example, I found the changes in some races too blatant and not as tangible as before.

[@dendraki]

The male night elves was the one the stuck out to me the most. Specially the run animation that gave them looks so goofy

[@CyberScript404]

I have a lot of hope for the next FF MMO in the graphics department...it would probably be FFXVII...fingers crossed.

[@DietDrBass]

People have to keep in mind that not everyone is rolling a high end computer to play FF14. Some people have low to mid grade computer set ups that can't handle UE5 tier graphical designs.

[@Thevideogamejoker]

Where this update will shine is for people who are into making photos of their avi's. I think that will show a big change specially when those photos will probably be put through filters to already or mods so yeah.

[@rexxel8867]

the main changes are the eyes and hair texture also eye has noticeable depth now while skin may look almost the same, but a very slight upgrade but Yoship did mention the upgrade on the video is not final and he said to expect to have more resolution in the final game

[@MalicousQuintessence]

No one was expecting it to change to FF16 quality graphics.

[@SethidusVorscye]

They're looking more like their 1.0 renditions (and that's a good thing).

[@shirox11]

Honestly the zone graphical upgrade is much more significant than the player model one. Better lighting, better shadows. Textures actually being textured. Along with the colours actually being colourful now. All of that matters way more to me than the slight boost the character models are getting.

[@Verd254]

The first thing they announced regarding the update was that it was not going to be a major change going for photo realism. So anyone upset about that is just ignorant.

[@CL-jq1xs]

I don't think people who are upset are expecting photo realism. That's just a dumb way to dismiss them. The graphic improvement for player model can definitely be better than this without it being more photo realistic and that's probably what people are upset about.

[@luckyday5721]

The main idea with the models is they wanted everyone's characters to be the same just better. Expectation were set early.

[@AlfredEiji]

They’re not really changing the models. They’re just changing the lighting. It’s subtle, but it’s actually a major improvement. Because there’s flat lighting here, it’s not as noticeable, but I wager in more extreme lighting scenario, the difference will be quite significant.

[@Enderlinkpawnu]

They stated the goal of the graphical update was to improve the texture quality and visual presentation of the game without changing things so much that they are too different. Its pretty telling on the character models this is the case because, yes, they didn’t change much. Mainly everyone got a texture revamp and thats about it. The main meat and potatoes is the in the lighting and fauna department

[@Zadamanim]

Hrothgar got the biggest improvement imo. The nose has little bumps on it like a dog nose now. The fur is also rendered in a pseudo-3D way similar to the fur in Monster Hunter World. For everyone, eyes are now reflective and glass-like rather than flat images. Skin likewise seems to have some subsurface scattering (though this would be much easier to see in indirect lighting, which this demo doesn't show) and a slight shininess to the skin (easiest to see on highlander male). Au Ra horns also have an enamel-like sheen to them now. Skin and hair albeido textures are a much higher resolution, giving them a look closer to that of the CGI cutscenes (the lalafel female especially looks like the one from the 1.0 trailer).

[@NeocrimsonX]

Yeah hroth don't look goofy anymore I can finally stop roasting them.

[@cadetsparklez3300]

while all it is is proper material mapping, it also means they put proper effort into it which most people dont which is why so many games with cutting edge lighting dont look it

[@cadetsparklez3300]

what I mean by this is the clearcoat over the eyes, lips are more smooth than the rest of the skin etc

[@squallionheart14]

Is the resolution too. Noses are actually rounded now. Also probably a second a new bump map, since creases in the characters faces are more defined. Shader is 100 percent better than the old one tho.

[@MrZockio]

dont forget this is a prerender of the devs blender tool, not the actual converted character model ingame... the gameworld can give alot more to a character then just the blender mesh

[@hellsice2421]

They did not change anything for character models. They said they redid the lighting and shading of the entire game. Yes, textures will have had some adjustments to make the lighting and shading better, but the update is mostly lighting and shading

[@chabꟊ]

they upped the polygon count for the models and increased textures res, it'll look far more significant in game. Modders will have a field day with the increased polygon limits.

[@fredy2041]

You are not seeing the viero and Myqote diferences? Thats very notisable

[@TatsuyaWow]

RTX?

[@Musashi_XIV]

Yoshi p and studio said they meant for the update to be photo realistic. They wanted to keep that fantasy quality in mind while just giving it a little polish.

[@justCezarMe]

welcome to 2010 graphics, updated from 2004. Check back in 20 years.

[@ZK-sz8vs]

looks like its fixing a lot of the artifacting on the shadows which is nice. the shadows have always been blotchy and pixelated and had a semi-glitchy look. it was acceptable for 2013 but it was time for a refresher

[@LaSpookyEXE]

The detail the shadows and textures look better is like a retouch I like it

[@clericneokun]

Since it's a game-wide update, I am quite curious how older story content will eventually look like with the new look. Hopefully, there will be enough of an overhaul that we can finally say goodbye to the ARR-level texture jank during cutscenes.

[@BaghNakh1]

Yoshida said that some of the main reasons to not go too big on the graphics update (especifically for characters) is because a lot of people have been playing the game for a long time and they understand that these people actually do like the graphics of the game so going too big on the graphics update could be too disruptive, and the other reason is that they understand that FFXIV players are very attached to their characters and they didn't want players to feel that, after the graphics update, they saw their characters and think "this isn't my character anymore" or "this isn't the character I play anymore". Despite SE not going too crazy with graphical improvements regarding characters, I think they do went ham regarding environments, for example Yoshida said that envoronment designers went crazy doing the new zones, so new zones and the remade ARR ones will have a lot more vegetation for example. Personally I think this was the right move, if they went too crazy with graphical improvements towards characters, I guess a lot of people would've seen that as just a way to "force" players into buying a Fantasia to re-do their characters all over again with the new graphics update in consideration and probably this is something they had in mind.

[@Scottistic]

Their goal is to enhance the full screen. Everything in it is going to look better. They could go hard into player models but cut out increasing foliage density, environment quality etc. It's an update not an overhaul. it's bringing it of ps3 into ps4 quality

[@MrXxsnipesXx]

honestly after 10 years this small difference is still huge i feel, it was said that it wasn't going to be anything huge, it's not like it's a brand new engine or anything. Yoshi p also mentioned over a year ago at this point that it was never going to be huge. The fact that they're putting it out slowly too so it wont look super jarring.

[@atreidespendragon]

it's not just lighting and shading, the textures have been improved as well, which extends to the mapping and environments.

[@mellar5864]

When it's this far zoomed in and you barely notice it.

[@lionjezztv]

the changes will be shaders, lightning and updated textures for current textures like hair, jewels and surely all the textures that date from the early days of the game

[@AnnaTheIcon]

the biggest changes are environmental so the game world looks exceptionally better, the character models seem more subtle.

[@DevinOfBacon]

They said that this is not final, and that once it's done, it will look even better than it does with what they're showing us.

[@Staygold1999]

the update is more noticeable with gear and enviroments. The new world zones look gorgeous .

[@VAFranky]

The hair definitely looks way better, the rabbit and cat girl's faces also look a lot better. Some of them don't look much different. When they first announced this they specifically said "please do not expect FFXVI graphics you will be disappointed".

[@RevanBC]

They're adding in the HD textures mods and Reshade we've been using for years... officially.

[@RevanBC]

@@F34RDSoldier805 We will see if the textures are better than what the modders have done. I'm guessing they are running them through a AI upscaler on the weekend and calling it a day.

[@erockgames6277]

The zones and everything else look a lot better than the toons upgrade

[@mikeparradise9333]

Yeah they just adjusted the diffuse map and added variety and contrast to the specular map, makes a difference tho

[@hufflepuffler2575]

I’m actually happy that they aren’t going all out for the character models, they explicitly said that we should not expect 16 graphics for the character models

[@alex_ho]

The biggest noticeable difference, is the fact that you no longer can see pixels on the hair and eyebrows 😅 Though Au Ra got a massive improvement as well with their horns now noticeably in higher quality

[@matthewacevedo9200]

I think the reason its not a significant difference is also because theyre simply adding lighting and texture improvements to discourage players from using third party tools to adjust it themselves. I really dont think the character models need to be improved dramatically anyways, especially not if it sacrifices performance, as this was a key issue in 1.0

[@WikiED]

FF14 needed better lighting of the world and higher quality textures of environment, those 2 are huge difference makes, also ocean water has to be changed to not be static as looking from Limsa is just depressing at that flat plane of water.

[@lancevance6346]

I don't play FF14 but the character model quality isn't something that ever bothered me tbh. There is some engine limitation or something off about the shadows,lighting and texture quality of everything else around you that doesn't work and makes the game look outdated/ugly.

[@RevanBC]

The game looks better than WoW wtf are you talking about.

[@morewi]

The game came out like a decade ago. Used to be on the PS3

[@lancevance6346]

@@RevanBC I don't play WoW. So that's not any metric for me. But as outdated as WoW is, it's lighting and texture doesn't meld into everything as much, making everything on the screen look like one washed out color. The biggest thing I've noticed is, characters don't stick out from the background in FF14. Everything has the same lighting/shadows.

[@Rytom]

That's precisely what is receiving the most amount of work in this expansion (textures/shading/lighting), not the characters themselves. You can find pictures of before/after with environment, it's a good improvement.

[@TatsuyaWow]

@@RevanBC look better then lol i think you need to check on detail

[@evelynfive5684]

The details level seems almost the same as most MMO around if you looks closer, the vibrance and color popup still looks outdated, but it's just the way they want to make it looks.

[@dungeonmaster16]

Similar to wow it’s still tied to an old engine/foundation. So it’s pretty much a fresh coat of paint then actually replacing the materials. Not saying this in a bad way but being honest what it is. If ppl want a vast update then that will require completely breaking down the old foundation and build a new one if ppl want big graphical updates and brand new animations they can go wild with.

[@J-leaf]

I mean... it just kinda looks shinier and... uncomfortable.

[@Moonwalker130]

tbh i think is ok, i just hope the armor look better, like some of the armor looks like plastic rather than metal, so i hope they make some improvements in that

[@atwitchyferret]

As long as I can no longer see the pixels in the hair I'm happy

[@roro803r]

Mods have existed that fix all these issues for years now with significantly improved textures resolutions on not just character models but even environment textures. At least now maybe the mods won't be necessary

[@blushingralseiuwu2222]

This benefit Hrothgar so much, its like night and day

[@Shyverin]

If anyone reading this listens to yoshiP’s goal with the graphics update, he explicitly said he does not want to change the feel and look of the world nor the characters of XIV. His main goal was to not make anybody feel like the new graphics aren’t what they envision in their mind when thinking of 14. It’s carefully crafted touch ups and resolution/lighting upgrades where the game is showing it’s age, while prioritizing the original vision above all else. I was initially underwhelmed but after reflecting on the changes and how drastic changes can have negative effects (wow model update) on people’s image of the world and characters, I think Yoshi really understood what he was doing and executed perfectly.

[@phantomninja904]

I get why people are mad honestly the older one looks more ruff and realistic while the. New ones look like we jumped back 10 years

[@AnghelVick]

Everyone talking about how the new graphics will be on the avatar, but no one talks about the new graphics will be with the spells and abbilities and the smoothness of the combat. It's not much o a graph update, in some terms mods would change that, but it is something.

[@greencaptain2783]

Yoshi said they wanted to make your character look same but better.

[@Helyeah834]

characters went from 480p to 720p

[@Pr0ject_Dusk]

As long as everything runs just the same, then all good.

[@djmeowth]

A bit more subtle than I was expecting, but at least they don't look any worse. Except maybe Hrothgar who look kind of grungy in this video.

[@Seb_Falkor]

Yea it’s a bit better. I’m curious as to what the actual zones will look like though.

[@arkadiccal7271]

they stated before the main difference in the models is simply a texture improvment and lighting and shading will also matter. also to note this isnt the full release but its most likely what we will receive. the MAIN change is for the envrioment allowing new flora and a new auto generated flora system to add more to the world with the changes and small quality improvments. They wanted to stay true to the game and do small upgrades but upgrades that you could clearly see. i would say a better video to show the changes would be the envrioment ones.

[@voistar5387]

They did say when they first annouced this thay they were focusing on keeping the art style in tact so was mostly just shader and texture updates, which is what is seen here. Would say the Au Ra are the most noticable and improved due to the scales looking amazing now. Curious to see how the Umbral Ring on the eyes looks with the improved textures. The armor showcase before this was also very noticable in difference as well.

[@TokyoAkiHara]

Did people just forget thus is a mid-development preview and it's not the final result? YoshiP did say that it will look even better in 7.0.

[@NeffyXIV]

Character models don’t need the biggest update imo they improve without removing that style

[@narupex]

It's cool but I wish the changes were more noticeable. Being blown away by this update would go far in hyping it up.

[@Dratio]

It's is as much of an improvement as anyone can expect. It's a 10 year old game with a frankenstein engine hastily built off of a 13 year game. And that original engine of course started development earlier than that.

[@noobsaito924]

This game need full visual update..it feels like a black and white game

[@Seedmember]

The faces and hair look smoother and the eyes more detailed. Not a huge graphical update, but we're talking about an mmo here. If they turn FF14 into 16 in a night, they'd lose half the playerbase that doesn't have an up to date pc or a ps5. The biggest difference I think, was on the foliage and vegetation of the areas. They looked much better than before.

[@CL-jq1xs]

I don't get why people keep bringing up FF16. The graphics can be better than this without looking as good as FF16 no? New world looks pretty good for an mmorpg. Well though I think in terms of character model they are pretty similar.

[@Seedmember]

@@CL-jq1xs It's the easiest comparison since both games were made by Yoshi-P's team. You can pick any game with a good graphical fidelity, it doesn't make a difference. 14 is an mmo and needs to run for as many people as possible.

[@CL-jq1xs]

@@Seedmember but if they want it to run for as many people as possible why update the graphic? You can strike a balance and that balance differs for everyone. I do think that they can lean more towards graphic when it comes to player model. The changes were good but the skin texture resolution seems lacking. Not too sure if it has to do with video compression

[@boothbytcd6011]

I think the environment changes were more serious than the character changes.

[@DarthSoto78]

I think this looks better, but we are not going to get the massive graphics upgrade people think it is till 8.0, or 9.0 when they drop PS4 support.

[@EbefrenRevo]

So Square decided to go full Bethesda and call what the mods already do to the game models , "Graphical Update" I guess i already play the new DLC.

[@zed4229]

They don't want the feed back EQ got and wow got when they made races look different with the new updates. just cleaner lines and shading shadows.

[@aerith119]

I love the update, not too much change. They keep the art style.

[@lootmaster1337]

The big difference is that mods will have to redo their textures but thats about it

[@jag764]

The female Elezen was a MASSIVE improvement I dunno how people can't see how huge the change was, it feels like people are blind lol

[@thehurricane6767]

I found the change to female Au'Ra eyes to be massive. Went from dead looking to actually... living

[@adriang.2144]

Wow players saying it looks like ps2 lmao. Tribalism will never end.

[@maskassmario321]

Says the FF14 cultist praising this filler xpac and borefest of a keynote

[@adriang.2144]

@@maskassmario321 Where did I say that? See how you needed to make up something in order to insult? You can't be dumber. Edit: Also, 'filler expansion', that's funny coming from a wow andy.

[@daydreamerxan623]

I mean wow player are freaks so of course they hate everything in there life because asmon dont play his games 🤣

[@lucylu3342]

​@@maskassmario321How are they a cultist for calling out trolls? They didn't even praise FFXIV in their comment at all.

[@coolfangs]

The hair and eyes definitely look a lot better than the default, much cleaner and no longer pixelated, but still not as good as what I've seen texture mods do. Great for console and unmodded PC players though. This clip didn't show it but the grass/vegatation improvements look great. I'll be excited to see what they do with shadows, since even ReShade is pretty limited with what it can do in that regard.

[@myekyl7448]

the hair is definitely higher poly and whats gonna carry this is the Lighting

[@Gael32]

So they got to about 10% of what the character models in 1.0 looked like? About time.

[@XenosFFBE]

Resolution and lighting is what i noticed. Also the glossy eyes! I wish it was FF16 quality XD!!

[@pokemon05100]

I feel like there are some face changes here that are noticeable. Maybe they changed the nose shape, maybe it's just the shading, but I think the roes both look significantly better post change.

[@Stiksta]

The hair textures is the big difference, which is something most people in the know probably already fixed with a mod. The graphics in game actually do a remarkably good job at representing the true appearance of the character. Even in the FMV cinematic that Viera they showed off on the boat looks pretty much exactly like he does in game. To me it feels like they just ripped his model out of the game and then applied better lighting and hair shaders to it. Something you can't exactly say for the difference between like the WoW in game sylvanas and her cinematic versions which is an entirely different model built from the ground up.