Astra hot hatch 🔥 ! Opel / Vauxhall Astra GSe driving REVIEW

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This is our in-depth review of the 2023 Opel / Vauxhall Astra GSe (PHEV). We're taking a look at Exterior, Interior and the driving experience.
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00:00 Golf GTE ALERT!
00:10 Astra GSe as the sexiest version!
00:37 GSe dark styling
00:59 Length and wheels
01:22 Suspension changes
01:52 The most beautiful hatch?
02:19 Top speed
02:46 Turning indicators
03:16 Interior: key fob and doors
03:52 Steering wheel
04:10 GSe Alcantara sports seats
05:35 Interior cockpit overview
06:22 Hot keys
06:47 Front and rear view camera
06:54 Automatic tilting mirrors
07:17 Infotainment system
08:02 Digital instruments and HUD
08:38 Build quality good and bad
09:32 Lower middle console
10:31 Opel Monza GSE quote
10:41 Rear doors and rear seats
11:26 Astra Sports Tourer (estate)
12:24 Engine with GSe PHEV
13:32 Driving 225 hp GSe spec
14:26 Steering and suspension feel
15:30 Hybrid, electric or sport mode
16:09 Acceleration
16:44 How sporty and comfortable is it?
17:13 Heated windscreen
17:44 Difference to Peugeot 308
19:10 Fuel economy / consumption
19:46 Shifting pedals
20:27 Motorway acceleration and drive
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@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
Of course we filmed the trunk/boot, but somehow it was forgotten in editing, sorry for that. To see the luggage compartment, see here: hatch: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXfClXtreLmDfa8 estate: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3WwlmWjqahli9E The PHEV trunk loses some height each but not too dramatic, it is also shown as comparison in the hatch video.
@sbomorse
@sbomorse Жыл бұрын
"4:35 we are the channel of details"... 😂 Only playing, great review as always Thomas 👍🏻
@georgecalistruofficial
@georgecalistruofficial 4 ай бұрын
At 0:05 fail joke.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
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@Hercegovac.1
@Hercegovac.1 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful car ! Stunning review as always 👍
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
Cheers m8!
@henriquemoravia6517
@henriquemoravia6517 Жыл бұрын
Oh my God, the door closing sound on the rear door!! 🥵
@sbomorse
@sbomorse Жыл бұрын
I'm 6ft3 and one thing I love about Thomas's reviews is that he's a similar height. Nearly every other car reviewer is a "short" man and just don't give you a true indication of the size of the cockpit for tall drivers.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
:-)
@sergeysedelnikov3015
@sergeysedelnikov3015 Жыл бұрын
9:42 every dealer who estimates your 1 year old car price says exactly this :D
@CeeUuuNxtTime
@CeeUuuNxtTime 9 ай бұрын
Alter Finne 😳Ist das ein wunderschönes Auto 😊. Danke für das Video, bleib Gesund.
@blackfieId
@blackfieId Жыл бұрын
Hey Thomas, as a suggestion I would like to see in AG's videos a bit more attention on where you are filming (city/country). You mention it sometimes but not always and I'm often left curious where you were filming from (southern spain in this video). Hope everyone is having a good weekend!
@TundeEszlari
@TundeEszlari Жыл бұрын
Super content.
@riaz8783
@riaz8783 Жыл бұрын
Opel/ Vauxhall are the masters of "okay". Rarely any deal-breakers, but nothing that makes you go wow.
@Steve-gc5nt
@Steve-gc5nt Жыл бұрын
@@xxxxxxxx3476 That's right, you stick with your Dacia.
@guilletous89
@guilletous89 Жыл бұрын
I tried a, new opel corsa and... The quality was meh at everything, also the manual gearbox... Even the fiat panda one felt better.
@livolas
@livolas Жыл бұрын
Which non premium car is not the master of "okay" and makes you go wow? 😅
@guilletous89
@guilletous89 Жыл бұрын
@@livolas Mazda, Hyundai, Honda...
@SDav21
@SDav21 Жыл бұрын
@@guilletous89 Hyundai? Their cars are overpriced and so poorly made. So much plastic. The new Tuscon is awful.
@aimanfitri0iv
@aimanfitri0iv Жыл бұрын
finally a hot hatch version of astra but not a opc/gsi but gse and man it looks simply gorgeous i love this
@MercOne
@MercOne Жыл бұрын
Other than the hood looking like it's open all the time, it's a really handsome car inside and out.
@Jordanvectra
@Jordanvectra Жыл бұрын
beautiful and wonderful
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
►Follow us on Instagram @autogefuehl and @thomas.letsgo ►Subscribe here: kzbin.info ►Compare more Astra versions: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXfClXtreLmDfa8 ►Compare the Golf GTE: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jpWzlJyMerudjJo 00:00 Golf GTE ALERT! 00:10 Astra GSe as the sexiest version! 00:37 GSe dark styling 00:59 Length and wheels 01:22 Suspension changes 01:52 The most beautiful hatch? 02:19 Top speed 02:46 Turning indicators 03:16 Interior: key fob and doors 03:52 Steering wheel 04:10 GSe Alcantara sports seats 05:35 Interior cockpit overview 06:22 Hot keys 06:47 Front and rear view camera 06:54 Automatic tilting mirrors 07:17 Infotainment system 08:02 Digital instruments and HUD 08:38 Build quality good and bad 09:32 Lower middle console 10:31 Opel Monza GSE quote 10:41 Rear doors and rear seats 11:26 Astra Sports Tourer (estate) 12:24 Engine with GSe PHEV 13:32 Driving 225 hp GSe spec 14:26 Steering and suspension feel 15:30 Hybrid, electric or sport mode 16:09 Acceleration 16:44 How sporty and comfortable is it? 17:13 Heated windscreen 17:44 Difference to Peugeot 308 19:10 Fuel economy / consumption 19:46 Shifting pedals 20:27 Motorway acceleration and drive #Opel #OpelAstra #Vauxhall Transparency note: Autogefühl videos are independent and free from editorial influence on opinion and rating. But since manufacturers enable us to do the reviews in the first place, for legal reasons this video is marked as _advertisement_.
@pietvelkens219
@pietvelkens219 Жыл бұрын
Full hd, full screen and full lenght, lets go!
@Kagee_98
@Kagee_98 Жыл бұрын
13:42 finally i hear thomas speaking german haha 😁
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
hehe
@abraxastulammo9940
@abraxastulammo9940 Жыл бұрын
Did you miss all the other German lessons? 😇
@Kagee_98
@Kagee_98 Жыл бұрын
@@abraxastulammo9940 actually not but this time was a whole sentence in german haha... :)
@somejackball
@somejackball Жыл бұрын
opening was funny AF! 👍😆
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
hehe =) happy u liked it !
@thistlebites2167
@thistlebites2167 Жыл бұрын
Fun to see that the legroom in a Skoda Fabia ST is the same as in most stations car's of a segment higher.
@sbomorse
@sbomorse Жыл бұрын
I really love the look of this inside and out, Vauxhall has knocked it out of the park. VW made a massive misstep with the new Golf. They phoned it in with cheap materials and a ridiculous interface.
@francescobarillaro6277
@francescobarillaro6277 Жыл бұрын
Super 😮😍
@vhira
@vhira Жыл бұрын
13:06 I agree. Not enough compared to the likes of the golf gti, the Octavia vrs and the Focus ST
@yissibiiyte
@yissibiiyte Жыл бұрын
Personally I think the base Astra is sexier
@kristoffergo6973
@kristoffergo6973 Жыл бұрын
The car looks good actually:)
@cknorthpole
@cknorthpole Жыл бұрын
I've had mine for a month now and it's a decent car. I have a Phev ultimate 👌
@marantamil459
@marantamil459 Жыл бұрын
Which is better than the GSe
@markusdeep42
@markusdeep42 Жыл бұрын
Thank you Thomas for the clever review on this #Opel or #Vauxhall plug-in version. I watched reviews on Mercedes A45 AMG and VW Golf R and based on the price tag this Opel (Vauxhall) 40K€ nearly the price of other cars mentioned. Performance wise and agility which one should I go for?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
performance wise you cannot really compare, this one is way slower. If you want true performance in acceleration, you have to go with the others
@markusdeep42
@markusdeep42 Жыл бұрын
@@autogefuehl My choice is just made. It’s definitely not the GS-e. Thank you so much for this final point of view I wanted. Acceleration is what I want to get rid off the packed cars in Paris streets.
@guyspr
@guyspr Жыл бұрын
Crazy how the legroom is gone, I drive a Astra K from 2017 and am tall with long legs. Adults can sit behind me just fine. Maybe the race seats impacts the size also.
@ShootingBraker
@ShootingBraker Жыл бұрын
Wirklich sehr sehr schön geworden der Astra! Leider fehlen mir persönlich schöne Rundinstrumente im Tacho.. ansonsten sehr gelungen!
@SavageTriple7
@SavageTriple7 Жыл бұрын
Opel getting to use the Peugeuot/Stellantis platforms is probably the best thing that could've happened to them.
@pauliusbucius8299
@pauliusbucius8299 Жыл бұрын
I'm not sure how many people are going to be happy to spend this much on an Opel. I feel like we're going to see a lot of price cuts to these.
@KurisuDE
@KurisuDE Жыл бұрын
10:32 I thought that was a reference to the Kadett E.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
Yes you are right
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
that coupe alike style looks Monza alike but the vertical fins are from the Kadett
@richardjohnson5529
@richardjohnson5529 Жыл бұрын
Thomas I like the car in white and it looks great but will Vauxhall be able to do the same when they can only make it as an EV?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
sure the EV will also come for both
@Mandela_House
@Mandela_House Жыл бұрын
Hi Thomas, love your videos. I know you play football but what football team do you support? Keep up the good work. 👍
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
Thanks 🙏
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
1. FC Köln 🐐😁
@Mandela_House
@Mandela_House Жыл бұрын
@@autogefuehl I’m glad you don’t support Bayern Munich. Good luck for the rest of the season. 👍
@l.e.i.4111
@l.e.i.4111 Жыл бұрын
We can see the feminine touch in Astra's design. Ilka Höbermann. Kudos for the design team.
@sevensixtysteve8662
@sevensixtysteve8662 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic looking Astra - I love the exterior design, not a bad angle on the car which is rare these days. Interior is a little more mainstream but nothing offensive and it looks neat and tidy. Biggest problem for me is that it's not quick enough. Its described as their 'performance' sub brand and certainly looks the part but 7,5 secs 0-100 is pretty average these days and could be comfortably beaten but quite a few of its competitors and also a fairly ordinary EV would beat it. Golf GTi is a whole second quicker and pretty much the same price (in the UK anyway). Ok you would have put with the grumpy looks, hateful interior, crappy software errrr ..... hmmm actually on second thoughts I WILL take the Astra and just drive a little slower !
@john2335
@john2335 Жыл бұрын
I briefly owned an astra F from 1994 and an F from 2000, first being an x20xe N/A, the latter turbocharged 2.0. Both irl comfortably matched 7.5s/100kmh, unlike what official specs may have suggested. For Opel to fail to improve acceleration 35 years later (the 1988 launched Kadett 20xe was light as a feather and nimbler still than the astra F) is a bit of a let-down isn't it.
@N1ckZ
@N1ckZ 8 ай бұрын
This is actually competing with the Golf GTE, not GTI. But still the Golf is faster
@darockwilder2083
@darockwilder2083 Жыл бұрын
I can see that shift lever being a huge dirt trap
@richardjohnson5529
@richardjohnson5529 Жыл бұрын
Thomas does it not come with manual transmission?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
nope not the PHEV
@cy9nvs
@cy9nvs Жыл бұрын
Those figures just don't cut it for a hot hatch in 2023. Why would anyone get the expensive, heavy, complex and underpowered GSE if you can get a lighter, non-hybrid competitor with more power that a lot cheaper? (GTI, Focus ST, i30n etc)
@Symbrio
@Symbrio Жыл бұрын
Most beautiful hatchback??!!! Thomas, what the hell have you been smoking lately????!!
@mxrt_in.k
@mxrt_in.k Жыл бұрын
Would love an OPC variant still😭
@davorvrki9449
@davorvrki9449 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful car
@robp3431
@robp3431 Жыл бұрын
Aggressive styling, a bit angry ......I like it !
@larsgbg2304
@larsgbg2304 Жыл бұрын
Opel has done good job with the styling, but best looking hatchback on sale right now is Mazda 3 (hatch).
@plvt0n1vm
@plvt0n1vm Жыл бұрын
Buick could definitely sell this here in the states
@MostCedric
@MostCedric Жыл бұрын
Hybrid is getting better and better.
@jamiep61
@jamiep61 Жыл бұрын
The best Opel/Vauxhall and better than the Golf GTE
@lastnamefirstname520
@lastnamefirstname520 Жыл бұрын
Einspritzung, somehow reminds me of something totally different than an opel. One time the doctor told me i am going to beobacht you. I will never forget how she said it. 😅 I love the language a lot. French has nothing on it
@joaolima9819
@joaolima9819 Жыл бұрын
Dude where are you doing this review? Portugal?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
Southern Spain :)
@joaolima9819
@joaolima9819 Жыл бұрын
@@autogefuehl Thanks. The Iberian peninsula is very distinct in its vegetation, decent weather etc. I actually need to visit again.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
indeed so beautiful !
@garybarry9365
@garybarry9365 Жыл бұрын
Thomas has grown an inch. I'm so used to hearing 186 or 6ft 1, it massively threw me when he said 189 or 6ft 2!!! 😂😂😂😂
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
😂💪
@jennydonne8946
@jennydonne8946 Жыл бұрын
This is an Astra that is desirable. The latest Peugeot 308 has a lovely interior but why does Peugeot continue to put the heating ventilation controls in the touch screen. I do like that Vauxhall Opel have separate physical controls for this. The design feature behind the rear doors are part of the Astra heritage. The Kadett C and D was badged as the Vauxhall Astra mk 1 & 2. The first Ford that had the heated Windscreen was the 84 Scorpio, having owned 2 Fiestas with this feature, you can learn not to focus on the wires and it's such a useful feature for quick defrosting and demisting with no scraping
@maxvolobuiev
@maxvolobuiev Жыл бұрын
Thanks for review it is interesting car. Maybe buttons for climate control designed not in one line specially for comforting pressing for drivers not looking on them?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
Cheers! hmm I rather think its just a design flaw or would have been too expensive
@maxvolobuiev
@maxvolobuiev Жыл бұрын
@@autogefuehl maybe you are right, you saw it in real life, I just made an assumption, cause see such flaw in German cars unacceptable for me:) Thanks for review, one of my favorite car’s channel.
@Terry_McKinney
@Terry_McKinney Жыл бұрын
Opel should make ejector seats😁Those dare to ask this question are going to be force-ejected out of the cars😆
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
ahha
@Stephenb033
@Stephenb033 Жыл бұрын
The obvious interior parts sharing in Stellantis models let the quality feeling down. They are the cheapest built parts.
@Matt_Curlew
@Matt_Curlew Жыл бұрын
I'd rather have the Mazda3. That doesn't look like the Golf from the rear. Also the interior looks a lot better. I hate that middle console and the 80s like styling of the dash. From outside it looks good. I haven't seen one on the road yet, seems you have to wait really long for your Astra.
@chrispark4310
@chrispark4310 Жыл бұрын
Most stunning compact at the moment with Peugeot 308…
@smokeango
@smokeango Жыл бұрын
05.00 That's why the steering wheel should be on the right!
@511ab
@511ab Жыл бұрын
Can't beleive you didn''t show the luggage compartment
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
Of course we filmed the trunk/boot, but somehow it was forgotten in editing, sorry for that. To see the luggage compartment, see here: hatch: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aXfClXtreLmDfa8 estate: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y3WwlmWjqahli9E The PHEV trunk loses some height each but not too dramatic, it is also shown as comparison in the hatch video.
@511ab
@511ab 11 ай бұрын
thanks for the answer Thomas@@autogefuehl
@artureff3046
@artureff3046 Жыл бұрын
prefer to stay unplugged....always
@mitchelljackson1263
@mitchelljackson1263 Жыл бұрын
Mildly warm hatch surely?
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
haha yes you can say that
@colingarner6175
@colingarner6175 Жыл бұрын
With a Golf you get quality , reliability and good resale values . Vauxhall , like Ford , will sell so many very cheaply that they will be worthless after two or three years .
@Silver-st2zq
@Silver-st2zq Жыл бұрын
Quality and reliability with VW? maybe years ago 😂 as to Ford And Vauxhall they have always been trash so no change there.
@freduk5342
@freduk5342 Жыл бұрын
Lol
@paianys
@paianys Жыл бұрын
Using astra k for 7 years, 135k Kms done. No issue at all except trigger chain which has more cost comparing belts. but It is still running like new. Recent cars equilized mostly, there is no much difference left, what you pay what you get, if you pay more to Golf, you will get maybe better internal quality, that's it.
@Piotrek4500
@Piotrek4500 Жыл бұрын
you joking???? have you ever sat in new golf ? the interior is shit AF
@WalterWhite89553
@WalterWhite89553 Жыл бұрын
MG4 Trophy looks way nicer than this one
@NoName-cn1gq
@NoName-cn1gq Жыл бұрын
Mg4 ev is one of the cool looking cars of the year 👍
@Villaboy78
@Villaboy78 Жыл бұрын
Ioniq 5 thinking 🥺🥺🥺
@hanswurst6742
@hanswurst6742 Жыл бұрын
The definition of "hot hatch" is that it's fast. This car is far from it. As a car channel you should know this
@ByoungTwentyGo
@ByoungTwentyGo Жыл бұрын
Looks like the cousin version of the hyundai ioniq 5
@RambleStorm
@RambleStorm 10 ай бұрын
The black gloss plastic everyone's been using lately, especially on the steering wheel has to be the worst trend I've seen in recent years.
@ChelseaSkopje6201
@ChelseaSkopje6201 Жыл бұрын
Wir leben autos 🇩🇪
@injinerconev
@injinerconev Жыл бұрын
Love the looks and the boot of the ICE version is a very decent size but as a phev this is pretty useless like most phevs and ev's are. So heavy that you can't load anything in them but yourself and forget about large items on the back or roof cause then efficiency goes out the window. And whatever happened to fitting people with legs in the back of a car? This is an astra after all. Its supposed to be all things for most people, not a lifestyle toy. Gets me salty since I did love this brand before stellantis. ;\
@renekaufmann8807
@renekaufmann8807 Жыл бұрын
Wow looks very good. Love it more then the boring golf
@omarf2406
@omarf2406 Жыл бұрын
If you are going to do the review in English language, then at least set the user interface language to English as well. Other than that: Great review as always!
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
07:20 and 08:08 I did set the language to English for the whole infotainment system. Or are you referring to the letter in the rear camera view? No idea why that was in German.
@omarf2406
@omarf2406 Жыл бұрын
@@autogefuehl Ah, I see now! My apologies. I was totally distracted by the German bits at for example 6:40 , 7:50 and 8:00, and so I thought it was set to German.
@andreigroza3260
@andreigroza3260 Жыл бұрын
Hell no, the most beautiful hatch is the new Peugeot 308
@skfunk4550
@skfunk4550 Жыл бұрын
It's competing with better cars at the price range in this segment. 🙄
@grandhomme4183
@grandhomme4183 Жыл бұрын
Better than a Golf, but not as good as a 308.
@markmd9
@markmd9 Жыл бұрын
I wouldn't call it the most beautiful. I say it just try keeping the pace with the concurrents.
@SDav21
@SDav21 Жыл бұрын
The packaging is very very bad with so little rear legroom. A Golf is far better packaged. Quite strange. Peugeot has always had this issue.
@Harrythehun
@Harrythehun Жыл бұрын
Great review of an underwhelming car. We are different, but I can’t imagine why people would spend money on a Opel.
@autogefuehl
@autogefuehl Жыл бұрын
thanks !
@vampyrelycan99
@vampyrelycan99 Жыл бұрын
No offence intended, but IMO once Opel/Vauxhall is out of GM's hands and dissolved into PSA (and Stellantis) the brands are now as good as dead......
@johnhodgeman3980
@johnhodgeman3980 Жыл бұрын
The rear has a very Japanese looking design.
@Steve-gc5nt
@Steve-gc5nt Жыл бұрын
I like it. Its subtlety good looking without trying too hard. But I'd still prefer the latest Civic.
@Cornermouse1
@Cornermouse1 Жыл бұрын
Bad Civic rip
@Piotrek4500
@Piotrek4500 Жыл бұрын
Very expensive and not so powerful in these days. Not enough to call it hot hatch
@Life.Life.Lifebb
@Life.Life.Lifebb Жыл бұрын
Not good for me
@AppleUK2000
@AppleUK2000 Жыл бұрын
I prefer the 308. I hate Vauxhall
@luissousa6
@luissousa6 8 ай бұрын
beautifull car, poor engine choices
@arminprnjavorac2084
@arminprnjavorac2084 9 күн бұрын
Nope
@luciussander8217
@luciussander8217 Жыл бұрын
Nope, not getting that at all. Looks a bit odd and very Vauxhall and not in a good way.
@michaelprovence
@michaelprovence Жыл бұрын
308 look far better 😅
@FireMunki63
@FireMunki63 Жыл бұрын
Literally, Hybrids make me vomit! They are a total lie in the context of EV's & Eco. 7.5s, what a pointless joke of a vehicle. What a boring concept by a boring company that claims so much yet does nothing.
@burso83
@burso83 Жыл бұрын
I've watched Glass Onion last night and those who know, they know. Opel will always only be an Opel, no matter what they pretend to be. God awful design inside out. Cheap, nasty and not practical. "Pisceshite"
@Rundismutti2001
@Rundismutti2001 Жыл бұрын
Dead auto brand. Will be gone in 10 years time…😢 Beuatiful yes, but it looks like its sister Peugeot
@__cr___pro__3589
@__cr___pro__3589 Жыл бұрын
For me... Golf 8 GTE looks way better
@mission609
@mission609 Жыл бұрын
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