Tournament Legal Glitches and Jank in Melee

[@Schmorbo]

Legal Jank has to be one of my favorite terms ever

[@RancidKari]

BWAHAHA

[@karlcossaboon7072]

*melee*

[@biglargebyte0.170]

shrödinger's terms and conditions

[@2ndSchmorbo]

Hi Schmorbo

[@this_isnt_patrick]

Legal Jank sounds like slang for marijuana

[@lugiagalaxy3849]

the armada pictures had me rolling LOLLL

[@Sahilkmr78]

0:26 I like how instead of just removing Marth after a few seconds, he falls through a platform out of frame. Well played sir

[@palereaper]

I thought it was crouching 🤷

[@nggaish]

3:25 100% accurate armada thumbnail

[@ajgonzales7039]

Nah it's 3:27

[@Collin0]

IRAN DID WHAT!??!

[@Penguin-iy4hz]

CHINA COMMITTED ATROCITIES AGAIN?!?

[@maxalaintwo3578]

BIDEN BOMBED WHO

[@yankees2864]

@@maxalaintwo3578 TRUMP RAPED WHO?

[@damocles7406]

"But they fucked up." Is really the motto of Melee's coding.

[@piercehacquard4747]

3:12 talks about Marth, Roy, and Peach... background image: Neuschwanstein Castle. A castle for the royal characters. All these tiny little details that don't draw attention to themselves and are only on-screen for like 4 seconds. Just ace stuff.

[@yoshimallow]

4:00 I don't follow the Melee competitive scene. So to finally hear that Wobbling is no longer tournament legal after all these years, feels so damn satisfying.

[@AtomicBoo]

I stopped following after a while, so thats why I dont see ice climbers in tournaments as often as I saw them before 2020 huh, the more you know

[@sgtfignewton9413]

the fact that you don't have more subs is fuckin beyond me. your content is hilarious, original, well thought out, well edited, and easy to take in. keep up the great work man, every upload is something to look forward to for me.

[@moistloaf3854]

Push a turd out

[@aqgpandemic5406]

Minor correction on the thunder jacket, the hitbox actually stays until Ness dies, meaning it stays if you hit an opponent. It’s just not usually relevant because there’s a property in the game where a single hitbox can’t hit an opponent multiple times, but if you play with more than 2 people Ness will be able to hit each player in the battle with the thunder jacket once before he dies.

[@agabrield]

*Wobbling* Me: oh noooo- "Wait, this isn't legal anymore" Oh thank god

[@Therworldtube]

God damn Wobbles

[@MantaRaydiated]

Therworldtube You know despite discovering the tech, Wobbles actually doesn’t go for it because he doesn’t like it.

[@Therworldtube]

@@MantaRaydiated Ikr, that's how despised wobbling is. Not even the popularizer likes it.

[@Shing_]

You guys know that wobbles didn't create wobbling right?

[@HRCFre4k]

@@Shing_ iirc Wobbles saw it in videos from a japanese Icy player and used it in a Tournament and Ken gave it the name Wobbles. So he just made it "popular". At least that's what I remember, could be wrong tho.

[@emulationemperor8924]

I always thought Roy's Up-B kill was due to the tipper or hilt mechanic. This has been super informative while also being fun to watch.

[@jokerkirby7051]

When you rob a bank and say, “Melee is legal, so this should be too.”

[@johnnycrash4892]

Excuse me punk?

[@jokerkirby7051]

Johnny Crash yes

[@colourblindchalk]

Change your name to "Kirby with a G U N"

[@krallakrulla3053]

Lmao best commnt

[@kwisowofer9872]

4:12 I see chunky Ness. THAT IS CHUNKY NESS.

[@pantherman691]

So? What's your point

[@reddodeado]

I see Sans

[@frankomode5201]

@@reddodeado funny guy alert

[@kwisowofer9872]

chunky ness chunky ness

[@pantherman691]

@@kwisowofer9872 Again SO? He was chunky What's your point

[@AtChiaPet]

These Smash videos are definitely a part of my life now

[@MapleMilk]

I want to imagine that Ness' unintentional jacket moves are just him casting a PSI Counter in a roundabout way

[@swigtimefoxy4422]

2:11 “Well you have to play as Roy for one.” Zain: Say no more.

[@clematis726]

HOW DO YOU UPLOAD SO CONSISTENTLY AND WHY ARE THEY ALL SO GOOD WHAT THE HELL

[@krallakrulla3053]

Not anymore

[@nezbitnezbit5397]

@@krallakrulla3053 lmao you stole the words right outa my mouth

[@MishKoz]

5:06 biggest missed opportunity not nicknaming it "PK Shield β"

[@Yubfan69420]

EXACTLY

[@zFrost]

I thought of the opportunity of naming it "Rubber cape", Like that one electric mother 3 item

[@aaronchiang2225]

fun fact: you can actually SDI the blazer in so that you get hit by the followup hits and survive, since the followups dont kill you. If the roy player knows this, he can simply walk up and NOT turnaround blazer, since your sdi in will kill you by making you avoid the followups. So if you know how to deal with it, its a 50/50.

[@AsumSaus]

interesting!

[@MusicMike512]

5:57 lol that Doom zombieman death

[@Apple_Slices.]

I love how with the hurtboxes Ness looks chubby

[@tawiido7285]

Children's party game? CHILDREN'S PARTY GAME

[@WillJohnson138]

Tawiido Is he wrong though?

[@sniddler9114]

That's exactly what it is, yes

[@FFKonoko]

That it is.

[@sonriku7331]

made with competitively viable mechanics

[@userperkingmacbeth6715]

@@sonriku7331 Only 25% of the roster being viable is a competitive mechanic?

[@HammerspaceCreature]

Even as kids me and my brother discovered how busted the knockback on Roy's up-b is. He loved Roy and sometimes when we were on a stage with a low ceiling and he was losing he would just camp the highest point on the map and try to gank people with it.

[@bugjams]

Who else here has never played a single Smash Bros game (or at least Melee) in their life, yet still finds these videos endlessly entertaining?

[@edgelord8337]

Finally at 100k Ngl you deserved it. You are probably one of the best smash bros melee youtubers on the platform. I just want to say congrats and keep it up. what sakurai thinks of glitches Sakurai: *that's not how your supposed to play the game*

[@jawoseye2902]

edge lord I see u everywhere

[@Fizz-Q]

Shut up edge baby

[@stremstrem3632]

4:12 that ness is CHUNKY

[@zturtle1630]

These videos are so good. Well-written, well-edited. Definitely one of my favorite Smash channels

[@weilzudope]

imagine what game we would have had if HAL had more time.

[@weilzudope]

@Bodybag Dotzip i dont really know tbh. but the only thing that i dont like about melee is characters having bad/useless moves

[@sonriku7331]

@Bodybag Dotzip i mean they released a few more copies afterward and it was still somewhat the same so probably not

[@tombcruisin]

Sadly, it might actually be worse. There's a heavy bias towards 1.02 these days--rather than PAL, and PAL was an attempt at a balance patch.

[@musicbox7601]

@Bodybag Dotzip 3head balanced is good guys

[@freddiesimmons1394]

@@tombcruisin probably because it isnt obvious how to get pal copies in America

[@easilyeasy]

I don't even follow competitive melee, and I have yet to see a tournament, but these videos are still awesome

[@rang4889]

Snowy: "One of the best puffs" Hbox:*ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT*

[@Yubfan69420]

He said “one of the” not “the”

[@frogturtle]

Roy's up-b jank in Melee works similarly to Samus's up-b jank in Smash 4, known as the Shine Spark. The first hitbox is designed to 'shoot' your opponent into the following connecting hits which have less knockback, but by using the move in a certain way, you'd only hit them with the first hit which would indefinitely shoot them upward until they died off the top. Fox's forward air also sort of worked this way, another multi-hit move designed for the first hit to combo you into the rest of the hits, but this time by stunning you for the duration of the full attack. Off stage you could just hit a recovering opponent with the first hit of his fair, then DI away so the rest of the hits would miss. Your stunned opponent would helplessly fall to their death (and even if you didn't die the Fox could just footstool you for free afterwards which was definitely a kill,) because the game thinks the rest of Fox's fair will hit them and then they'll be knocked out of it by the last hit. Nope. There are many more examples of this BS in Smash 4, and to a more mild extent in Ultimate...it's interesting to see how trends carry across games. A lot of you probably are familiar with this type of jank if you've played Smash over the years, but a fun fact for those who didn't know :)

[@shank2281]

You just keep getting better and better at this. Keep it up Asum, love your vids.

[@garrettpeterson3324]

You have the cleanest transitions I've seen. Good job dude!

[@GabRadis]

you make the greatest and the highest quality smash content by far my dawgydog . keep up the great work

[@nathanpopp8227]

2:43-2:48 When you get into the next grade thinking you got the semester in the bag only to be proven wrong from the first sentence of your teacher

[@ShaboingboingBouncer]

Other characters: NO!! YOU CAN’T JUST GLITCH YOUR HITBOX ONTO YOURSELF!! Ness: *haha down air glitch go spike*

[@krallakrulla3053]

Meteor smash so it sucks

[@quailron1581]

That falco transition at 2:57 was clean af

[@jenschneider305]

20RR An alternate timeline where all melee players have mastered Roy’s instakill up-B and now melee has become a ground based footsies game.

[@emptyvending8964]

Melee Players would still stay it's the best game

[@emoimo4171]

Except… it only works against Puff and a couple trash tiers.

[@tommil_ssb3165]

Me waiting for the in-depth explanation of how the multi set knock back hit boxes cause characters to die instantly... “But they fucked up”

[@natnew32]

Reversing up-B causes the first hitbox to come out on the original side, so the rest don't connect.

[@tommil_ssb3165]

natnew32 I know, it was a joke

[@neighborhood_k]

Children's party game? Ill have you know this game is rated T for teens, because it's for big boys.

[@emmbeesea]

But can the community re-legalize Mute City? Maybe one day.

[@MapleMilk]

I'm still waiting for them to come to their senses and legalize Icicle Mountain

[@opadrip]

Legalize Poke Floats

[@malcolm5965]

why are you everywhere I go

[@pedlar6839]

@@malcolm5965 Emm Bee Sea is what the comment section deserves, not what it needs.

[@malcolm5965]

@@pedlar6839 The only thing the comment section deserves is a fucking nuke lmfao

[@drop_8694]

Does anyone else think that he sounds like mordecai from the regular show

[@splinky9226]

He also kinda sounds like Jonah Hill

[@jakegwolford]

I found your channel about a week ago and haven’t been able to stop watching. I only play Ultimate and haven’t touched Melee since it was the latest Smash game, but these glitches are something else.

[@pyrojack8230]

I've never been as scared seeing Roy in that thumbnail since he actually got strength in a levelup... at level 20

[@zodiacsl125]

I dont get it why am I watching all videos from this guy I ve never played or watched melee

[@jackpeta9626]

yo these videos keep getting better and better

[@paniniweeni1022]

the transitions are so well-done!

[@Red_Biker_Dude]

I like how this video has some stages that aren't even in Melee. I rewatched this video multiple times and didn't even notice that he was playing on Wario Ware.

[@Zonda1996]

Throwing shade at armada thumbnails is my favourite thing to come from smash YT.

[@CAlex46]

the ye old doom sound effects make the vids here so much much more hilarious.

[@endlel]

Thanks, now I’m going to use Roy to counterpick Puff

[@BloopTheNoop]

As a Roy main I thought I was so smart by b reversing his up b I was honestly shocked about how strong that hit was

[@_-Dante-_]

Still waiting on that Super Yo-yo Glitch to be found. Actually, it might be better if it isn't.

[@regirayquaza]

@MIGUEL RIVERA It will when we find it!

[@sebastienmonette6659]

@@regirayquaza look at the second top comment, a sorta super yoyo glitch is explained there

[@EPMTUNES]

Great video AsumSaus!

[@witz]

I dont know how u keep coming up with great melee video ideas but keep them coming

[@michaeljfan9720]

I've never played Melee, but I've always wanted to! I like these videos, because they're very informative!

[@swank8508]

its never been easier, you don't even need a gamcube controller. If you have a computer, you can play online. check this server out for help discord.gg/twDYgzn

[@FrostBlood3187]

it's gonna be hard to learn, the controls are incredibly precise

[@Jsolo13]

The Armada pictures are killing me omg

[@connorthornberg]

That roy tech got HBox sweating nervously Zain's roy is coming for you

[@jaschabull2365]

Wait, so Ness can give himself thunder armour like frickin' swellow? Melee is just wild.

[@sakiyoshida4821]

You reminding me that wobbling is banned made my day.

[@deletedTestimony]

Of course it's legal, Ness is a psychic. Invisible force is his specialty.

[@thatrandomorcaguy7511]

The thumbnail has the best glitch The names having more than 4 characters

[@akimbocs]

yooo! I met chrono (roy player vs snowy) at a tournament in san an and hes a dope dude, he mains roy too so its not even like hes playing roy just for the jank.

[@MillionMileStudios]

My favorite melee glitch is the stock sprite swap or "stock glitch". Does nothing useful but get in your opponents head

[@sagacious03]

Quite interesting! Thanks for uploading!

[@MATTierial]

It's always amazed me that many of these low tier characters have such ridiculous jank, and yet are still not good enough to play in tournaments. Melee is a crazy game.

[@Wesley-76]

Children's party game: -Has same rating as Final Fantasy games, Xenoblade Chronicles 2, and Fire Emblem Three Houses Man, not having E10+ was weird.

[@roberthgamer6311]

"The jank HAS JANK!" OH MY, THATS WAY TO COMPLICATED FOR A ROCKET SCIENTIST TO FIGURE OUT!! HOW DID YOU FIGURE OUT THIS?!

[@ShaulaXNinja]

0:13 "In this children's party game" Is rated T for teen.

[@elementalarchenist9730]

I don’t understand why this is rated T

[@ShaulaXNinja]

@@elementalarchenist9730 because E10 was not invented yet and games that were mildly violent back then got the T rating.

[@Dazza-ut1hw]

@@ShaulaXNinja Because donkey Kong barrel blast couldn't possibly have been rated E for everyone

[@meta04]

Yeah, E10+ wasn't a thing until 2005-between the releases of _Mario Party 6_ and _7_ . That doesn't quite explain why Brawl is T-rated though.

[@ShaulaXNinja]

@@meta04 Brawl actually had blood though minor.

[@ichamsakkar4249]

The thunder jacket stays ON during the Ness-Fox matchup

[@ChillavaKirby]

Thank you for actually explaining why Roy's up b does what it does

[@sorakyle]

best melee channel on yt hands down :^)

[@RoninofCrimsonMaple]

They put more thought into Roys Up Special than the entire rest of his kit bro.

[@Enlaceeee]

What a fucking good video, entertaining insightful and very well edited. Keep it up my man, you doing gods work

[@JP-pn2lv]

I like these commentated videos, glad you're doing more of them :^)

[@nathanmadox3364]

You're the only channel I willingly watch the same videos multiple times.

[@qwopiretyu]

"in this childresn party game?" finally a smash bros youtuber who gets it

[@Dazza-ut1hw]

He was joking

[@treflip063]

Couldn't stop laughing when you used the spike jacket lmao. That scream at the end 😂

[@nervantes]

Congratulations!!! I learned something new! Yay! Didn't know that before, but i do now. I'm so glad you were here to teach us this very very useful info. I don't know what i could've done without this knowledge! Thanx.... Real shit, i loved it! I love this game!

[@readyplayerthree3]

Holy CRAP, I don't play melee, but I play a lot of Rivals of Aether. I knew the developers of RoA were melee fans and I had already seen hot melee effected Rivals, but Ness's permanent hitboxes, hitbox-lines and jackets are literally a complete description of Absa and her moves with her cloud. I never thought of that before and I've watched this video at least once before. That is absolutely sick how they took Ness's glitches and were able to insert them into an actual character's moveset. This makes me love RoA that much more! :3

[@richi5291]

Too bad this glitches are mostly for low tier characters and you will likely never see some of this jank in an actual tournament or a serious match

[@Neogears1312]

Ness’ jank should be the basis for a fighting game character.

[@64manxman]

So THAT'S why Roy's Up-B fucking annihilates Cruel Melee wireframes

[@Dark_st4r22]

0:06 no it's 3 in morning and it's something I found to watch

[@ryank09]

I don’t even play melee and I absolutely adore your channel

[@ThePi314Man]

Roy's up b, due to the property of scaling ratios, is the best cheese in 1P mode. It just nukes everyone.

[@whathappenedsource]

Editing just keeps getting better man

[@ChildOfTheLie96]

The transition at 1:30 was brilliant

[@Tiltson]

I like the transition at 2:56

[@agj2310]

I don't play melee I play brawlhalla but I still find these entertaining and think I may join the melee community in the future.

[@finmin2k]

ive watched this video 40 times because of the thumbnail this thumbnail is so amazing ahhhhhhhhhhh

[@Wheelz_]

Hell yeah an AsumSaus video

[@newpancakeman]

Loved the Doom sound effects

[@ZachFoxPhotography]

Great video. Informative and well-paced. 👍

[@haha-uj5rj]

The hexagon shape may have been inspired by the rings you can collect in Starfox 64.

[@spaceace9103]

Now I wanna draw Ness in a jacket

[@rockyr.saints5137]

Ness looks like an absolute UNIT with visible hitboxes

[@TheRamblemanWhoSings]

4:15 Ness looks big with the yellow circle around him

[@1un4cy]

When I was a kid I thought Marth was just a weaker version of Roy because I unlocked Roy first

[@brettley2480]

Man the more i learn about melee the more it being a viable fighting game makes less sense

[@swank8508]

asumsaus shows the funny part of the game, rather than the competitive part. at its core, the neutral game has the same RPS as other fighting games, the biggest difference is that your opponent can influence your own combos, making combos themselves a mixup (similar to killer instinct combo and counter breakers)