Ford is Delusional

[@steve8421]

The even bigger skeleton in the closet is that we are paying top dollar for over-complicated junk.

[@adambauman8044]

Totally! A million stupid new electronic features in a vehicle slapped together with cheap plastic fasteners and government regulation that overcomplicates engines

[@Clyde-2055]

You can always opt for an electric model that you can’t park in your garage because it might well burn down your house - with you in it …

[@bobdavis3357]

And the average truck has a lot more plastic in them(Chevy/RAM), to make them "lighter". A joke

[@SteveBueche1027]

Don’t forget how the dealerships make it a nightmare to even do business.

[@jamesbuckingham8073]

Spent 20 minutes buying my car over the phone in my recliner & coffee; same experience picking up and driving off. Car dealers are unnecessary for buying a car.

[@chriss1757]

Why is it so hard to just write on the window what the damned car will cost? I always ask for the out the door price when I go to the dealer and you'd think I was abducting their child! Like you don't know what tax, tags, title and doc fees cost!

[@PatchesOHoulihan-hi2tb]

@@jamesbuckingham8073 No test drive?

[@jasonme3557]

dealerships need to go.

[@harmgregory4560]

Amen!

[@pomosstream3202]

Too much unnecessary tech in cars

[@kevinsullivan7831]

You can thank the govt for that.

[@maniacrevenge]

@@kevinsullivan7831 It's called keeping up with the Jones. Everybody wants to outdo their neighbors and have the impression of being successful in life. Having a big flashy SUV or truck is the first place to start.

[@admiralbeez8143]

Agreed. Give me a proper analog gauge cluster, for starters.

[@kevinsullivan7831]

@@maniacrevenge no its called the govt mandating certain things in cars

[@bb1111116]

@@admiralbeez8143 ; I prefer the old dash. But the trend is for large LED screens, multiple cameras, radar, phone connections with the computer tech controlling everything which also needs over the air updates.

[@addertooth1]

The math has changed for me. I used to crave a newer vehicle to escape "repair costs" on my older vehicles. Now, I have adopted a "cheaper to keep her" attitude. I drove a 33 year old car to work last week. Yes, it requires maintenance, but the prices of those parts are much cheaper than any car payment. My other cars are knocking on the door of being 19 and 23 years old. I just keep them running, and enjoy the savings. Modern car repairs often require expensive "reprogramming and recalibration after replacement". This requires expensive and unique vendor-specific tools to perform that task. This is not the kind of tool you will find in the hands of a shade-tree mechanic. Many car repair shops are forced to specialize to a single brand to keep up with the specialized tools required. Gone are the days when a mom and pop auto shop could fix whatever rolls in. Dare I say dealerships are called "stealerships" for a reason. Their labor rates are insane. When the time comes for me to get a new engine/transmission, it will likely come from a salvage yard, and perhaps get "freshened up", for another 100k+ miles of use. It will cost me less than 6 months of "new car payments". When you have a car that is paid off, you only need to pay for liability insurance too. This is another cost savings. The younger generation has started looking at other avenues of basic transportation. We have seen an explosion in sales of electric bicycles (eBikes) over the past few years. The younger generation is embracing them as a low-cost basic transportation, which requires no annual insurance costs. Their "fuel" (electricity) costs are quite low as well. This trend is likely to continue.

[@danwebber9494]

E-bikes are not that inexpensive, a good one will cost $2000 or more, the cheap ones still have $400 batteries and delicate proprietary electronics. Not to mention most bike shops will charge $60 for a flat repair because they are so hard to work on.

[@ronw59]

They are not winter transportation and at the rate they are burning, fire insurance will most likely be mandatory soon!

[@scottthompson3493]

Amen to that

[@farleyboy1968]

I agree. It is asinine to have a dealer ask you if you desire a $1500/month payment or do you have $25000 cash to put down?

[@addertooth1]

@@danwebber9494 Even though I am not young, I have embraced eBikes. I have not had any major maintenance issues. They are simply work-horses with a very low cost per mile of use. Much cheaper than even a Tesla on energy. Ebike parts are much cheaper than a for a car. They don't require many of the parts a car does. There is no radiator, hoses, belts, thermostats, alternator, starter, etc. They cost less per mile of use than a car to maintain. One of my eBikes is a higher performance models which can keep up with city traffic. I DO have liability insurance on it. The insurance only cost 70 bucks a year.

[@DLuccia327]

I want simple no frills again. 5speed 4x4 regular cab nothing power Don't need a radio Give me back my 90s ranger long bed was nice to carry a sheet of plywood without having 3-4 feet sticking out the back.

[@antilogism]

Sounds perfect! 1 ton+payload and I need a bench seat to relax (sleep) on. While I'm dreaming 40 mpg to boot.

[@josephdominics5935]

Mahindra has what you need.. but can't get them in the us

[@DeepPlane]

I wouldn't mind a radio if it was just a radio. Don't need some broken from factory USB reading radio that breaks after you skip 2 songs and won't fix unless you shut off the engine or that Bluetooth stuff. Just AM/FM. Add an aux port and/or cd player, and that's the furthest I'd take it.

[@abellseaman4114]

It is my suspicion that the auto makers will quite soon to DISREGARD the fuel economy hysteria of the LIE-beral govt and RESTART MAKING THE KIND OF MACHINES PEOPLE WANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@troyb.4101]

My 2012 four banger Ranger is the perfect truck.

[@michaelsand2791]

How can you grow customers without entry level vehicles. A 22 year old kid fresh out of school can't afford a $50,000 vehicle. Build a good car for them and get a customer for life.

[@DontCryAboutIt]

@michael out of school... used

[@wmason1961]

They've completely abandoned the old "customer for life" business model. All they care about now is "customer for the day." Repeat business? It's not a priority.

[@obi-ron]

Smaller, less powerful cars that are cheap enough for new drivers would mean that insurance companies would feel pressure to provide lower premiums and that is unacceptable to the boardmembers who are dependent on bonuses for the little extras in life such as yachts and third or fourth homes.

[@wisenber]

"How can you grow customers without entry level vehicles. " Most manufacturers are trying to survive the next few years and can't afford to focus on new customers. That' and brand loyalty has diminishing for decades.

[@JustinSeara]

By giving that kid a loan or a lease on that $50k car so they’re trapped forever in an underwater car loan or lease payments

[@alphasixty1316]

I really don't want $5K of entertainment in my car.

[@lymphy12]

for $5k it has blow me every morning

[@user-wg2vw3mz1v]

...and while it's distracti...err..."entertaining" you your private information is being snooped on and sent off to nefarious entities.

[@Arzman6011]

You can't find one without all that stuff, even if you don't want it. I know, I tried.

[@MoreBollocks-ui2zs]

@@Arzman6011 This is in part because of the backup camera mandate. They reduced visibility to meet safety standards, then mandated cameras to mitigate the reduced visibility. the mandate requires that the cams be displayed on the infotainment screen or a separate display. It is just simpler to use the in dash infotainment model. Even more so when it gets integrated with eh rest of the car systems and becomes a requirement just to operate the vehicle.

[@tomcat4195]

On top of that I don't want a car with an iPad glued to the center of the dashboard.

[@atsf-3415]

Vehicles are bigger, parking stalls are the same size...

[@q.d.mcgraw]

The EPA effectively banned small cars, not outright but in a roundabout way. They tied the mpg to the size of the vehicle. The bigger the vehicle the lower the mpg can be. They then made the mpg for small vehicles so high that auto makers were forced to make vehicles bigger. The government requires more and more "safety" features taking even cheap base models out of the hands of average people let alone the massive $100K trucks. When no one can afford a vehicle people will be limited in their movement and start demanding public transit.

[@Nerotique]

@@q.d.mcgraw It's all part of the plan.

[@wolfie1970]

Not just the same size I've seen them restripe parking lots and make the parking spaces even smaller that's ridiculous, or for some mind-boggling reason they'll take a nice parking lot with 45° angle parking and change it to perpendicular parking decreasing the size of the spaces and making it less friendly and safe

[@fjm1235]

I know! Go to any shopping plaza, mall and you see trucks that don't fit, jutting out. Crazy.

[@jMichaelEdwards]

And garages are smaller

[@carlmorganti4584]

Hi Aubrey. Kudos to you for everything you said. I am a career automotive engineer with 38 years of experience. In decades past, when the economy became recessionary, the car companies always returned to simpler, more affordable, entry-level car offerings. Since 2008, thanks to low interest rates (now going away), car companies kept the cars big and just got more creative with the financing. The result is that Americans owe over $1 trillion dollars on their cars and a projected 1.5million of them will get repossessed in this next year. I drive my small 2009 Ford Focus with a manual transmission. I don't even want a modern electronic transmission. The Focus was designed by Ford of Europe, where they take small car design seriously. In 2008 our government mandated that future cars should be able to get the fuel economy of a motorcycle! Since then, car companies have added ridiculous complication to cars trying in vain to comply with the government. When I go to a junkyard now, I see many cars in there that have good bodies, good chassis and suspension, and often a good engine. They are in the junkyard because the owner could not afford to pay to get the costly systems in the car serviced. The reality is that newer cars are accelerating the consumption of environment by weighing more, then going to the scraper faster than necessary because of poor serviceability, thanks to the crush of government regulations. After decades of OE car experience, my last 7 years were in the automotive aftermarket. I often visited dealer service departments. The service managers often told me they were finding it hard to find service technicians willing to cope with the complicated systems on modern cars. Electronic automatic transmissions and hybrid systems are some of the most costly and difficult to diagnose and service. Cheers, Carl

[@zacklewis342]

The Government should mandate a 100K mile/10year warranty for all major systems. BMW would be f'd.

[@chadhaire1711]

Claims to be an auto engineer and drives a car made by Ford of Europe, the biggest garbage maker on the planet.....and has the crap Focus. Hahahahahahahaha

[@Agent77-e8o]

Great post with great information!

[@don2deliver]

Ford screwed up the Focus with the dual clutch automatic. They slowly improved the Focus from the time it first came out as a troublesome junker. By 2005 it was a great car other than extreme NVH issues. You could get real world 34 mpg driving on the highway at 75 mph. With that kind of 'fixing' a car that wasn't broken, they just ended up not selling cars.

[@sirhcmi3]

I’ve fallen in love with smaller cars… so I keep buying used cars that work great, don’t track me or sell my information, and cost less than 1/4 of a “cheap” new car. Car companies have decided to focus on the top 10% of earners, and the rest of us don’t want what you’re selling! P.s. My “old” cars will likely still be around when 2024 cars are dead and gone. This isn’t sustainable!

[@williamsporing1500]

I’d love to buy a new truck, but I just want seats, a bed and air. I don’t want a big screen TV and all the other useless garbage they put in them. I’ll just keep driving my rusty old ranger until I can’t get parts anymore….

[@Dave19812506]

Only reason I have my 2013 Super Crew is I bought it second-hand from a farmer who only put 19k miles on it. It does its job, but Ford has a problem with things like the raptor, the tremor, the Shelby raptor, the saline raptor, etc. That's what they want to push on lots and I'm sorry but they want exotic car prices for what is an f150 with a body kit. They need to focus on building simple affordable vehicles. Especially if they are going to do things like add turbo and super-charging to the mix to provide power and fuel economy as those require a bit more engineering due to the high pressures and temperatures they operate at.

[@davehilling3944]

Still driving a 2007 F250 because I could fix it many many times for even 1 year worth of payments on a new one. When I only drive it about 8K miles a year it will stay until it rusts apart.

[@NeoAutodroid]

Do you actually need a truck though?

[@Sewcrates]

I bet if someone were to make a simple truck for cheap, it would sell like crazy. I tried to find a bare-bones maverik, but the only ones available where the high-trims because the barebones were selling for a premium before they even arrived at the dealer.

[@williamsporing1500]

@@NeoAutodroid I’ve got a little property and fish a lot. I don’t need a 250 or anything like that, just something to haul limber, mulch, pull my boat etc.

[@SSgt-]

The manufacturers keep saying “people are demanding more technology in cars”. Uh-huh 😒

[@GF-mf7ml]

No one wants electric car doors. But for some reason so many cars have it. It's not more convenient, faster, more reliable, nor safer. It got worse for electric cars when fire and some of them can't open without electricity like Porsche,Tesla rear doors, Volvo, ect

[@antilogism]

@@GF-mf7ml I've grown to hate the electric seats in my A4 since they are so slow even with the memory. I really like the lever in the old Sentra: pull, slide & go, and I'd take that any day.

[@coldwarkid6611]

Just bought a Subaru Crosstrek with manual seats. I like them better. Electric seats just add weight and expense. I set my seat over a month ago when I took delivery and haven't touched it since.​@@antilogism

[@lv4077]

Yeah just what we need more complex stuff breaking that no one knows how to fix.

[@mikkinikki1902]

@@antilogism the most useful electric feature is the seat bottom tilt that adjusts for short or long legs angle and takes stress off knees/hips.

[@reloadnorth7722]

Automotive CEO's don't seem to realize, the cars we really want are not the cars they are supplying. Clueless, out of touch with reality, and corrupt dealers ruin the industry.

[@orionbetelgeuse1937]

they realize but they are forced to "embrace the ev's". She failed from the first sentence saying from the embrace of the ev's instead of saying since the ev's are foisted upon us. The rest of the video is pointless if we do not recgnize the reality

[@storm14k]

​@@orionbetelgeuse1937EVs aren't making them make giant vehicles packed with features. Consumers buying giant vehicles and wanting features is what's causing them to build them. They didn't just up and discontinue these smaller cheaper vehicles because they felt like it. They weren't being bought. Now that the prices are rising fast people all of a sudden want that smaller cheaper option.

[@orionbetelgeuse1937]

@@storm14k not really, they have a quota of ev's, for instance in uk is 22%. So roughly for every 4 ice's they have to sell an ev otherwise they would have to pay around 15k/car as a "fine". Since the ev's aren't selling very well and the sale of the ice's is limited by the number of ev's sold they are trying to maximze their profit by selling big ice cars packed with all they can put on them. They don't want to sell small basic cars with a profit of 2-3k euros/usd, they want to sell the most expensive cars they can because the next year the quota of ev's will be bigger and they will sell even less ice's. The small and medium cars were the best sold cars but the profit was not that great.

[@jasonescott]

@@storm14k People buy SUVs and trucks because the automakers make those and price them to be more attractive than smaller cars, because they can still make more money off the attractively-priced SUVs and trucks. You really can’t blame a consumer for buying an SUV or truck when they get way more vehicle and more features in one than in a similar-priced sedan. So, naturally, the SUVs and trucks are what sell better. And now that the “car” companies like Ford and GM and Chrysler have essentially gotten themselves out of the car business, they can keep churning out SUVs and trucks with smaller discounts so they make more money off them. Of course, they are essentially pricing themselves out of the market - regular people can’t afford $60,000 vehicles - but the automakers are notorious for not looking a bit farther down the road to see what’s coming while they’re doing everything they can to rake in massive profits now.

[@abellseaman4114]

Car makers are much more concerned with pleasing the Woke govt officials that hand out the subsidies that are the major source of CASH AND PROFIT for car makers these days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@JacksonDiddles]

We can't buy smaller vehicles if the manufacturers won't make them and we can't import them from other countries. I'm going to keep my 15 year old car as long as possible because there isn't a domestic vehicle that I want to buy that isn't 50 years old.

[@ronniepemberton1942]

I also want a car that I can fix without special tools

[@mechanknuckle]

Apparently the Ford CEO wants us to buy a used smaller car, not a new Ford.

[@roberttoews2775]

I took his advice and bought a Toyota. Thanks Jim Farley. I love it.

[@markjacobs3956]

My new Ranger is bigger than my 1999 F150. Nuff said.

[@63Imp283]

Is it as capable?

[@mauserdave]

Your 99 will outlast it

[@markjacobs3956]

Probably.

[@c1a2t3a4p5i6l7l8a9r]

That's because of government regulation. They say your F-150 for the old fashioned ranger pollutes more yes with the four cylinder verses even that v10 they put in some.

[@roadrunnerorange]

Funny, i always said a maverick looks more like a ranger than a ranger looks lik a ranger😂

[@jayson657]

Jim Farley is right, we should buy smaller cars. Since Ford doesn’t make any small cars anymore, we should all buy our smaller cars from Honda, Mazda, Toyota and Subaru.

[@RareGenXer]

😂

[@enmass90]

The ford maverick is literally a ford focus with a bed

[@stanwbaker]

The way things are going, we will be buying our small cars from Changan, Wuling and BYD,

[@quixomega]

@@enmass90 So a bigger, less practical vehicle that costs more>? I'd rather get a Civic, Mazda 3, Corolla or Impreza. Honestly all of those are more reliable anyway.

[@enmass90]

@@quixomega how is a truck less practical than a sedan? It’s a small truck… the size of a crossover. All of those cars you just mentioned cost about the same as a maverick.

[@jasonlawrence2143]

Henry Ford just rolled in his grave. A man who wanted to keep car prices as low as possible and easily repaired over a 100 years ago. Thanks for this video.

[@DanDaFreakinMan]

4:34 I wouldn't blame him for sounding dumb. There's a reason Ford stop production on smaller cars. People just don't buy them as much as their bigger trucks and SUVs. The regulation put in place also hurt smaller cars more and reward bigger cars.

[@johnhumphrey9953]

I don’t need all the bells and whistles to get from point A to point B. I am a real man.

[@user-wg2vw3mz1v]

...but whatever will you do wthout all that spy tech to digitally creep on you and your family and share all your private info with nefarious actors?

[@jacoblittle989]

May i suggest a motorcycle? The bare bones are fun!

[@berict]

Dangerous!

[@JS-kh5ls]

We want small trucks. The maverick was so popular because it started at about 20k, now you cant get one for less than 35k

[@StanR56]

greedy people at ford..............and used car lots

[@lorimcquinn3966]

You can easily buy a new 2024 XL Maverick for quite a bit less than 30K, OTD.

[@user-py3ex2ym9f]

Yes, my xl was 28k and that included AWD.

[@MrRMB1]

My Maverick Lariat Hybrid averages just under 50 mpg’s. It was well worth the 35k.

[@turbo8454]

A Maverick can still be bought new in the mid 20's if you buy a base model. My 2024 was 29K with AWD, trailer tow package and a few other options.

[@f1y7rap]

The problem with vehicle size is because of EPA and CAFE regs. They are completely unrealistic. Give Me Back My Minitrucks!

[@CL-oy3jh]

EXACTLY!!

[@daniellarson3068]

So - Who is a strong influence on those regulations? Could it be that the automakers work hard to have exclusions that work in their favor? Lobbyists? Maybe, it's time for the public to take the reins again and re-regulate so that small cars are the preferred option for the auto makers.

[@lassepeterson2740]

@@daniellarson3068 Who ? Well it is done by committies which does include those you say plus many other strange people including consumer and insurance representers and government payed staff , lawers and DEIs etc and that never works out good .

[@daniellarson3068]

@@lassepeterson2740 Environmental groups may be one such entity. There are others. These big trucks spew out enormous quantities of greenhouse gas and other pollutants. These groups have some clout these days and they aren't going away. My gut feeling is that tree-huggers aren't enamored with big pickup trucks. The only thing permanent is change and they can help make these changes.

[@lassepeterson2740]

@@daniellarson3068 Some " tree huggers " drive these trucks . I dont like driving them or paying for them , they do make drive F250 at my ESG job at work but that is another story . But anyone else can drive them as far as i care . It is all corruption .

[@paulgrieger8182]

I'm a bicycle rider and got hit by an SUV last Saturday. Lifted trucks with big off-road tires are also dangerous because those tires aren't meant for road use. I saw a lifted truck try to make an emergency maneuver when a car pulled out in front of them - it bounced, tried to steer around the car, bounced more, and made some really strange skid noises. The driver looked totally shocked at his inability to control his truck in an emergency maneuver.

[@bigdye1976]

The cheap simple truck, gone. The cool affordable sport cars, gone. The used affordable fixer upper, gone. Regulation have choked out cheap reliable vehicles for luxury cookie cutter egg shaped SUV's.

[@Zindo.Majesty.HisMajesty]

Cars/Trucks are so expensive it’s cheaper to overhaul a classic by thousands

[@jonthebru]

I suggest that to people all the time. If a car is paid off and needs major repairs it is cheaper to get the work done, even a motor or transmission replacement, than buying a new car. That depends on whether the parts are available of course.

[@chriss1757]

Not as easy as it seems. I know TV and the movies like to so people tooling around in a 70's car as a daily driver, but anyone who has had one can tell you its a nightmare! I drive a 20 year old Malibu. It has just over 100K and right now, its economical to use as a daily driver. But a 50 year old Malibu? That car can be a nightmare as a daily driver.

[@user-tz4bt5bt6x]

@@jonthebru It's Waaay cheaper to fix your late model truck than buy a new one. Auto makers realized that they could get 70+K for a truck that is only worth $35K. The Automakers milked all the fools and now the wise people aren't buying their overpriced junk. Nope, the wise are fixing their existing trucks.

[@ImLivinSD]

​@@jonthebruyep, spent more money(down payment actually) for an for a new car but opted for an old 96 camey. Needed lots of refurbishing which pays for local jobs. Nice car No Government Tracking and cheep to fix.

[@bretleec3120]

@@chriss1757it doesn’t have to be a nightmare. I drove a 71 F100 for 15 years. It was much easier to drive than a new F150. Easy power steering, lighter brake feel, more comfortable bench seat, far better visibility. Admittedly, there are downsides as well. Safety was an afterthought, poor gas mileage. There was more maintenance also, carb adjustments, points & condensers, lubing chassis & suspension, etc.

[@James-eg3nf]

Government screams we need better fuel economy but also regulates that a “truck” must be over a certain size and weight, making it necessary to use bigger and thirstier engines. In the 80s/90s we had small pickup trucks that worked wonderfully - they were simple to repair and maintain, had great fuel economy, and were fun to drive.

[@mauserdave]

And millions of them still on the roads today. Running just fine and don't cost thousands a year to maintain

[@recoilrob324]

Add in the crash worthiness standards to the over-reaching emissions and fuel economy requirements and you get monster vehicles. The future emission standards are so whacked that the only way to meet them is with EV's....which is why everyone went in that direction. The government said 'Don't worry...we'll give tax incentives and a major PR push to convince everyone that they want the EV's you'll be making'! So billions were invested in the EV's that are selling so slowly (even with the PR and incentives) and the majority of early adopters who bought into the hype have found that they don't work for them and are going back to ICE. But...all those billions invested had to come from somewhere...so major price jacking on the vehicles that still sell. EVERYTHING that's wrong with the whole situation is the GOVERNMENT'S FAULT.

[@DoyleFM]

I have a 1982 Ford Courier. 💪🏻 🇺🇸

[@2fuzy]

@@James-eg3nf no they don't mandate a size or weight they mandate safety standards and emissions standards and CAFE standards

[@alexandracolorado1421]

Which in turn forces manufacturers to build bigger and bigger vehicles to comply with the regulations, effectively regulating the size. ​@2fuzy

[@jm351]

I want a truck ! Just a plain damn truck ! I can back up my own trailer and parallel park myself. I dont need it to drive itself ! Do not need a touch screen ! I dont even need a radio !! Preferably with a manual transmission !! Just a reliable ,decent made truck ! Nothing special , 1960's technology is just fine !! I grew up with the 60's 70's trucks and they worked great. It should not cost more than I paid for my house !!!!

[@boxwoodgreen]

Future Western World Governments should eliminate all blocking regulation that would prevent all the Big Auto Manufacturers from dragging all the old blueprints out, and retool to mass produce all their big sellers from 1968-70. I'd buy a Mach1 Mustang, and a pick-up truck right from the end of the production lines. One small battery to start it, and ZERO computer chips.

[@Dave19812506]

Same I loved my old bullnose ford, and my great grandads squarebody chevy

[@mdingess]

I grew up in the 90's and 2000's and still drive my car and truck from the 2000's. I need to get from point A to point B not drive itself or have 50 computers in it like some of the new cars. I work in the auto field and its crazy what is in autos now. The EPA is why autos are getting bigger and bigger its nuts.

[@martyi398]

You can buy a no frills Ford F-150 single cab XL trim, brand new for $38,970 MSRP

[@stevenstoll2016]

@@martyi398 which is about $15k more than it should cost.

[@domjohnson2579]

They don't think consumers are stupid, they KNOW they are! The only thing that is stopping consumers from buying is the loan officer.

[@rex8255]

I work in the building trades. One if the things that kills me is trucks are getting bigger, the cargo capacity is getting smaller.

[@ADobbin1]

The reason cars and trucks have gotten so big is because the epa tied emissions allowances to vehicle footprint. This means that the bigger the vehicle, the higher the emissions they can get away with.

[@garygeorge9648]

You used to be able to work on a car in your driveway and have room around the engine to get to things. These days the engine compartment is packed with mandated epa systems.

[@tadinator1362]

@@garygeorge9648 Much of that came about because people weren't maintaining their vehicles and as a result they began polluting. Many years ago a magazine took a 1965 Chevy and a 1985 Chevy and compared them in numerous ways; fuel economy, performance, and emissions. When tuned to factory specifications the 1965 vehicle did just fine without all those mandated contraptions, they were pretty comparable. And you could work on it at home in your driveway without any special tools. Certainly, as we have progressed from carbs to fuel injection there's been some improvements, but one could also argue that these systems have also now made it so people perform even less maintenance than they did back then, and with the complexity to work on them it has become much more costly and complex.

[@robertt9342]

@@tadinator1362. You are correct. Modern cars are more reliable and require far less maintenance

[@BTC909]

"The Real Reason We Won't Get Chevy's Montana (Or Any Other Small Trucks) Is CAFE" - Alex on Autos.

[@chriss1757]

You are correct. The reason the Maverick doesn't have a bigger engine, or was mad as a proper minitruck with a frame, is the EPA. The reason a Tacoma is as big as a T-100 is the EPA. The biggest reason Americans drive massive heavy vehicles isn't just because we like them, we liked the ones that were smaller and weighed thousands of pounds less! It's because the government say if we want a certain engine, it must be in a 4 ton vehicle!

[@unclefester4626]

Plastic valve covers, wet timing belts, and now i hear the oil pump is wet belt driven? No. Pass. Their greed is really quite stunning...intentionally designing cars to catastrophically fail around 60k miles. Stunning.

[@carterlee8344]

Yep, I saw the tiny belt driven OIL PUMP. It’s nearly impossible to get to to replace. Fuk em.

[@ggeorge4144]

That is exactly what the appliance companies have done. A refrigerator that sells for $2000 will last 8-10 years. Funny thing, I have a friend who has a 1949 refrigerator that still works perfectly. Of course he has to defrost it now and then. They were built to last, now they deliberately build them to fail. The government does nothing to prevent this theft.

[@robertt9342]

Remember that consumers whine about gas prices and cost of driving but still buy these tanks of cars.

[@samchickensandwich23]

And not just all consumers, consumers of brand new cars, not enthusiasts of classic cars.

[@reloadnorth7722]

Not much choice when that's all they offer

[@mikehenson819]

What else are they going to buy???

[@64WildcatCruiser]

@@mikehenson819 I bought a '64 Buick Wildcat to use as my daily driver in June and have zero complaints. I know it's not for everyone but I'd much rather have a car with a carb that I can work on.

[@reloadnorth7722]

@@mikehenson819 Restore/rebuild an older model.

[@StodaGryph]

So basically Ford is saying "Fall in love with cars from our competition".

[@jamesvandamme7786]

What competition? The discontinued Chevy Bolt.

[@glennmoss3285]

The flip side of "larger vehicles are more dangerous" is the fact that "larger vehicles are safer to drive/ride in". What demographic drives the increasing sales of larger vehicles? Women with children. My wife was one of these women. The issue with the move to larger vehicles, especially trucks, is also driven by federal government regulations which make it easier for manufacturers to meet the requirements with larger trucks than smaller.

[@ROACHRAGE2]

Ford cut off their own hand when they built their last models of Focus and Fiesta cars with an automatic transmission with design and reliability problems. These cars quickly became known as "Do Not Buy" cars because their transmissions needed expensive repairs as frequently as every 20-30k miles. This fact was known during the design and durability stages at Ford but they pushed it through anyway, proving to the normal consumer that Ford can't be trusted to design and build something that would be reliable enough for your wife and daughters to safely drive for 100-200k miles. This is why used Toyotas and Hondas go for thousands more than a comparable Ford; these brands have made a name for themselves for being rock-solid reliable. Ford has had plenty of chances to steer towards excellent reliability goals over the last several decades but seriously dropped the ball here. As a consumer looking for something safe and reliable, I would not even consider a Ford unless they can establish a 10-year record of at least better than average reliability.

[@EngineerLewis]

But in Europe they sell many smaller cars which I am not sure why they don't export these to, or build them in the US.

[@user-tz4bt5bt6x]

@@EngineerLewis Ford, GM, Chrysler only care about profits and that means selling bigger vehicles that they can mark way up. Ford, GM, Chrysler don't care even a little about their customers. They'd sell them a turd really quick if people were ignorant enough to buy it...

[@chriss1757]

@@EngineerLewis They have manual transmissions, that's why.

[@Thomas-wn7cl]

@@ROACHRAGE2 the dual clutch transmission was a disaster

[@barberdoug6930]

Amen. Always a Ford buyer of Escort Focuses and F150's my next purchase will be a reliable import.

[@shaunswett6684]

It probably costs Ford $18k to build an $20k Fiesta, and $20k to build an $80k F-150. I actually feel bad for the chumps that fall for this scam.

[@lassepeterson2740]

It might even be $25k to build Fiesta sell for $20 and 25K to build F150 sell for $80k . I think they actually loose money on small cars in some recent years .

[@RolandCruz-h6l]

Don't feel sorry for them. They can afford it

[@user-tz4bt5bt6x]

Yea but misinformed people actually think that an $80K F150 or Silverado cost $70K to build. I remember reading an article I think it was around 2021 that stated it costs Ford and GM $22K to build a Fullsize truck. $25K to $30K is probably really close to accurate for today.

[@RolandCruz-h6l]

@user-tz4bt5bt6x a product is worth what one is willing to pay. Ex. A collector will pay an exorbitant price for something others won't. Teal estate, etc. Someone who wants something whether they can afford ot or not will pay. Although i don't believe in financing things one can't afford, people still do it. Everyone has their price, and it's not always to show off or arrogance. People are gonna want what they want

[@shaunswett6684]

@@RolandCruz-h6l Yes, but with that much demand in a truly free market, without collusion, one or more manufacturers would increase production. You should never see a 400% markup in a well functioning marketplace.

[@carllaborde8204]

One of Fords biggest mistakes was ending the production of the best family vehicle ever made. The Crown Victoria.

[@daletesson4630]

Ford ended production of the Crown Vic/Grand Marquis due to diminishing sales volume during the early 2000s. If there was demand, there would be production.

[@kylereese4822]

Ford Sierra Sapphire RS Cosworth in both 2wd or 4wd...

[@mikerhodeback9636]

​@daletesson4630 ...cafe standards killed it...they made money on fleet sales alone...the econoline suffered the same fate

[@Hagleboz]

You couldn't pay me to take a taxi ride in a Crown Vic let alone ever stoop to having to live with one. Good riddance that they got rid of that absolute gas guzzling trash, but since the market for it only consisted of 70+ year old luddites who already owned one I'm sure it wasn't a hard decision to can it.

[@carllaborde8204]

@Hagleboz Sorry you feel that way. You're right about it used as a taxi. Cab companies bought them used from law enforcement when their fleet was renewed. The Crown Vic, from the early 1970's till the late 90's, were the number one vehicle for law enforcement, State and Federal government. They were safe and well built. Many young families bought these cars along with the Mercury Marquis for its safe reputation.

[@etacas1412]

If a person buys a small car for toyota, honda, mazda subaru nissan, most of those auto makers make well made cars, which means ford won't see that buyer either ever or not for the next 8 to 10 years.

[@jarek0737]

So to the bicyclists and pedestrians' argument. Those of us who are older, have you noticed nobody looks both ways before crossing the street anymore.

[@chuckmayper7549]

Drivers are not looking as well.

[@jvolstad]

I plan to drive my Honda Accord LX until the wheels fall off.

[@StanR56]

thats right--i feel the same way about my Toyota Corolla........

[@eyerollthereforeiam1709]

​@@StanR56I'll second that motion!

[@Fr1day-RT]

Same with my Civic and then I'll put them back on. I've already rebuilt/improved the suspension and brakes. It averages 30MPG even with mostly city driving and my ummm spirited driving style. Also it cost about $700 a year to insure.

[@jrnumex9286]

well plan ahead. price out some wheels and have in garage ready to go

[@ZER0ZER0SE7EN]

I don't think my Ford Explorer will ever have the wheels fall off. It has 350,000 miles with the original engine and transmission.

[@user-tz4bt5bt6x]

All the American Auto maker CEO's are clueless.

[@charlesharmon4926]

They aren’t clueless. They listen to Wall Street/ Black Rock First. The Federal Government Second. Banks and Auto Lenders Third and then the UAW. Then they tell the customer that they need to buy the crap they’re selling.

[@frotobaggins7169]

@@charlesharmon4926 You forgot the insurance industry.

[@davidhunternyc1]

They aren't clueless. They only care about their pay package and stock options.

[@truckerwayne]

​@@davidhunternyc1Their stocks suck big time. Tesla$ is even nose diving!

[@tabbott429]

Tesla is the only real american car company anymore.

[@davidwilhelm7466]

Love my cheap $30,000 Ford Maverick. But there's a major problem when they can make a $250 part cost $2040 to replace. I'd replace it myself, but it needs to be programmed. 5 minutes of work costs over $1,500??? This is how they pay the CEO!

[@northdakotaham1752]

There is nothing cheap about a $30k vehicle.

[@t436]

none of that is Forscanable?

[@steve4158]

We can afford these cars but I'll never spend the ridiculous money they ask. I'll continue to buy reliable used cars.

[@robocowone464]

Just because you can pay the note doesn't mean you can afford it. If they didn't depreciate or they appreciated in value you would be correct, but 90% of people can't afford to lose that much money. You would need to be a multi millionaire to be able to actually "Afford" a vehicle at the prices they are asking today.

[@steve4158]

@@robocowone464 Good point.

[@SomeGuy-pq6ov]

This is overlooking the CAFE standards. The reason everything is an SUV is because they are considered light trucks. Those have different standards than sedans. So, it is really not the manufacturers forcing us out of smaller cars, it is just not worth paying the fines for each unit built/sold when they are not profitable anymore.

[@MrMezmerized]

Who do you think lobbied for lower standards for heavier vehicles? Besides, even though smaller cars are less profitable, there'd be plenty of profiteering if more people buy them. Not that automakers couldn't make do with a little less.

[@jamesvandamme7786]

Build small EVs. End of problem.

[@DanielBeard-bt7mn]

Farley is unwittingly pointing his customers to the Civic, Corolla, integra, or Impreza. What a goof 🤪

[@tscoff]

One huge challenge with large trucks and SUVs is they don’t fit in garages! I want a mid-sized truck so it will fit in my garage!!

[@RolandCruz-h6l]

Buy a house that fits what you want to put in it. Plain and simple

[@killer13324]

i want auto makers to make full size sedans again. Compared to the crown victoria, all the newer "full size" sedans are actually mid-size at best.

[@matthewmenteer5673]

I am in a rental now, my garage opening is 76", and if you're counting the weather seal, it's slightly smaller. Most cars don't fit in mine. I can fit my fiesta, but I was shopping for a new vehicle and it's nearly impossible to fit most modern vehicles.

[@tscoff]

@@RolandCruz-h6l Buying a new car is easy. Buying a new house and moving I’d a lot of work!!

[@Dave19812506]

True, my supercrew takes up one whole side of the drive way.

[@archiiebarrett]

Too many standard features, forced regulatory safety designs, complex over-engineered parts, impractical repair bills, and boring, stale designs. The reason people just say "screw it" and avoid the smaller cars is because the smaller cars are so damn expensive for the piece of crap it is, you might as well upgrade. Leasing is what killed the market. Do Not Lease.

[@7106jazz]

I keep hearing about all these safety features automakers brag about, but my auto insurance premiums just keep going up. If vehicles are safer nowadays, shouldn't insurance premiums be going down?

[@huskydawg44]

Cars being more expensive to fix and inflation in general are the biggest drivers of increasing auto insurance costs. Sure, you can put 10 airbags in a car and it's safer, but how expensive is the repair when 10 airbags deploy?

[@fictitiousart6410]

No more electronic screens and tech crap. Its a car not a spaceship.

[@barberdoug6930]

As a Ford buyer my whole life my next purchase will be an import car that's affordable for the average guy to purchase, insure and fuel.

[@PBAR_B1B]

Same

[@freedomliberty7611]

Cars are not nicer than ever! All brands are less reliable.

[@CoasterGaming]

It’s all the sensors, and everything being too technology dependent.

[@matthewhuszarik4173]

Vehicles are both more reliable and nicer. Those are the facts. If you think different you are just wrong. The question is are those improvements worth the added costs?

[@mchume65]

I grew up in the 60's. Cars and trucks are way more reliable today than back then. 60's car engines were completely shot after about 100K miles. Spark plugs and points had to be change quite often which meant that you had to go in for a "tune up" about every 15K or less unless you knew how to do it yourself. And oil is much better now.

[@PatchesOHoulihan-hi2tb]

​@@matthewhuszarik4173Cars made today are junk.

[@davidhunternyc1]

@@matthewhuszarik4173 Really? Then why do 90% of Teslas in junkyards have less than 10,000 miles on them?

[@Olds_Pwr]

That is why I drive older vehicles.

[@fortheloveofnoise]

me too,my grandfather belittles me for it, but i have no monthly payments, and my car is simple and reliable and manual

[@GF-mf7ml]

2018 Toyota forever!

[@hansjansen7047]

Me too. My newest is a 2010 and my oldest is a 1993 Silverado 2wd

[@jamesvandamme7786]

I would if they didn't rust out.

[@gongcyclist]

I have absolutely no problem with someone being able to buy a large car or truck if they want to. What I have problem with is the fact that you *have* to if no other options exist. The main cause of the problem is actually emissions regulations. It’s understandable that regulations will try to encourage cars to be efficient as possible. And it’s also understandable that larger vehicles not be handicapped with the same mpg requirements as small cars. But the way the laws are written, the handicap essentially works in the opposite direction. As it stands, it is very easy to build large vehicles that meet the requirements. But when you slide the scale back to smaller vehicles, it becomes essentially impossible to meet the current standards unless the car is a hybrid or EV. They are simply unreasonable. By relaxing the mpg requirements on smaller cars, and thus making them available, affordable, etc… enough Americans would choose them that the total gas consumption per capita would actually go down. At the end of the day, the automakers aren’t the main ones who should be in the spotlight: it’s the legislators. They knew exactly what they were doing.

[@MrMezmerized]

I read that it's 41 mpg for normal cars. That's an easy standard for many car brands. Well, non-American at least. And the reason the standard is relatively weak for big cars, is because of the auto and oil industry lobbyists. Same goes for foreign cars not being easily available. That would destroy their market share. And you don't *_have_* to buy huge and with poor fuel efficiency, there are not-huge American options.

[@deplorablecovfefe9489]

We don't even want all the new electronics. All they done for 30 years keep putting in more and more gimmicky electronic crap.

[@highrzr]

Why does anyone listen to anything Farley says? The Maverick is not a truck. It's a four door sedan with an open air trunk.

[@BlastedKat]

Exactly, it's a car with an open trunk. You can overload it with a 8 ft trailer and a lawnmower. The Maverick is not a truck.

[@riogrande163]

@@BlastedKat and its selling like hotcakes. proving that the maverick is plenty for what most people would ever need a truck for.

[@stevezilla68]

It's a truck. Get over it.

[@BlastedKat]

@@stevezilla68 well according to the towing capacity, the bed capacity and the toothpick size frame it's not. My 2022 RAM 1500 4x4 ,2003 F 250 4x4 and 2000 F 150 are trucks. The frame, brakes and cooling system are from a car. You can dress it up like a M1 Abrams tank. That doesn't make it a freaking tank. The Marvick serves a purpose for the concrete dwellers who need a little space sometimes. I get it, buy want to want and ride.

[@stevezilla68]

@@BlastedKat Nowhere in the definition of a pick up truck does it say anything about brakes or cooling, or body-on-frame, or 4x4. You sound triggered. Get help.

[@hlg2491]

The Focus is a primary example of Ford not giving a damn about quality of product. We bought one for my son and the DCT in the Focus was a problem that was repeatedly in the Dealer’s service department. He finally bought a Mazda.

[@wendwllhickey6426]

Ford own Mazda so you are buying Ford anyway

[@maindimon]

@@wendwllhickey6426 Not true. Ford did buy a 30% stake in Mazda in the 80's but divested completely in early 2000's. Mazda has been fully independent for a while.

[@RespectfullyHumble]

We need to stop being soo dam patriotic! If domestic brands can't build affordable reliable cars, let's give the Japanese, Korean, and Chinese brands a chance. They all make affordable sedans that are reliable. It doesn't have to be an American brand it has to be well build reliable and durable with good quality.

[@kentuckygreg4725]

@@wendwllhickey6426 Not, Ford used to own shares of Mazda, but not anymore.

[@asajayunknown6290]

​@RespectfullyHumble I would not describe Kia/Hyundai as "reliable". For the first 60k, maybe, with fluid changes. I myself am an Isuzu fan. Even the ones built in Indiana last decades. I have a '91 Rodeo with 370k miles. 😊

[@dhn.]

I bought a regular cab Dodge Ram for under $18K back in 2002, which I still drive today. In 2019, I bought a Ford Focus for $18K. Inflation is a financial killer.

[@gregburkowski5019]

Don't forget to add corporate greed

[@roris5882]

My new 2005 Ford Focus was $12.5K in '04 with my military discount and X-Plan (Uncle retired from Ford).

[@malinus3023]

For anyone that does have but wants kids, car seat fitment is a huge issue that isn’t talked about. It’s something I myself didn’t consider until I had kids. The large square door openings on trucks and full sized SUVs is much easier to get infants-toddlers in and out of their car seats than some CUVs and midsize or sub compact sedans. Also most rear facing car seats will push the front seat occupants into the dashboard if you follow the mounting instructions and local laws for how to install them, add in a diaper bag, a stroller, a modest amount of groceries, and find the cargo area in a CUV maxed out.

[@xechs88]

Companies wouldnt do it if people didnt pay for it. As soon as people paid 50k for 30k trucks. Paying 50k for f150 is ridiculous.

[@coburnlowman]

While waiting for my wife at a parking lot, I noticed our GMC Envoy compared to just everyday cars. The Envoy has a much smaller footprint than anything in the lot. I've pulled small tractors with the Envoy. The moms in the kid go getters were much wider , and bulky. Plus the fact they are useless in loading anything in them , or pulling anything. In 1986 we bought a new 4x4 Chevy 3500 dually. We used that thing to pull backhoe , dozer with. That truck is now tiny , compared to just a half ton truck today. I was able to get one of the last Toyota Tacoma (old man trucks) that sits low to the ground. I was truck patch farming with it. Because it sits low , I can load it with A days worth of watermelons to take to town easily. It'll still pull a mammoth amount of firewood on a trailer. Sure I have older ton trucks for heavy stuff , but we don't need these huge vehicles that are not used for hard work. I stand over 6 foot tall , and have a hard time grabbing stuff from the beds of these new trucks. The old 80s model 3/4 ton trucks will do anything a worker would want , and it's user friendly. I don't begrudge anyone having these huge vehicles , but it just seems like a huge waste.

[@RareGenXer]

And all that most anybody does with their huge four door tiny bed truck is haul air in them. Oh, and wash and polish them. Same for all the trophy Jeep Wranglers - especially the Rubicon's. I rarely ever see a truck with any dirt on it. I see far more Subarus that are dirty from use and (soft) off roading.

[@valleyofiron125]

I am in my 50's i work an office job now and dont need to haul much stuff these days. But i used to do a lot more work that needed a truck. I have had 2 F150s, a small toyota pick up, and a 4runner with a trailer. Now my only car is 2016 chevy spark ev that i bought for10k used 5.5 years ago. I put a tow hitch on it for my 4x8 utility trailer. I haul dirt, mulch, garbage, couches, refrigerator, sheets of plywood or sheetrock and 16ft boards. This setup has allowed my to save more for retirement.

[@coburnlowman]

@@valleyofiron125 Just after thinking more about this video. My grandfather "(Pop)" had an early 70s half ton long bed Chevy. We loaded 63 bails of hay on it regularly. We built sideboards that were easy to install. He would load all the cattle that would it would hold in the bed , and drive them to market. I was around 8 years old when I learned to back a trailer , he never could. So anytime a trailer was involved I went with him 🥴🤣. That truck lasted over 20 years, never had a real washing, was abused by an old man. It had folds on both sides of the rear bed , from where he attempted to back trailers. When he got too old to farm anymore I pulled the worm out 350 engine , and rebuilt it for another truck. We haul the rest of it away. Even tho it was worn completely out , it still drove down the road just fine. Back then a truck didn't cost a years salary , you could buy one , put it to hard work , and not die inside if it got a scratch. It had factory air conditioner that never gave any trouble. Other than needing a starter replacement every few years, it never gave any trouble. Before that he had a 1950 3/4 ton stake bed. He still used it until one day it was parked , and he just forgot about it. The 50 "(The Old Black Truck)" sat under a walnut tree. The acid from the tree rotted it out , or it would still be going today. They built simple vehicles, without a bunch of crap we don't really need , that will fail. I put a starter motor on the 73 Chevrolet in the hay field one time. They were just that simple to fix , "if anything went wrong with them". Those trucks look like toys beside these new Road Hogs. Another vehicle that In hi school is buy is wrecked Corvette Stingrays. I loved doing fiberglass work. They were bone simple to repair. They would outrun the new Corvettes at the time. Women absolutely loved them. That's the real reason a man had a Corvette. I got much more for a fraction of the cost , plus most parts were easy to come by , because GM used a lotta the same parts from all the other divisions back then. I'm ranting like an old man , maybe because I'm an old man😥😂. But back in the day vehicles just made more sense. This new comfort stuff is nice. But I have an easy chair to relax in at home. Those older vehicles had ice cold A/C , and heat that would melt the interior , plus a comfortable seat. You could drive them all day with one finger on the wheel. One more rant about the old vs newer vehicles is tires. We could put all terrain tires on our trucks for near nothing. Being the trucks were lighter they just lasted forever. Our Envoy has 17" wheels. A mid range set cost over $700⁰⁰. We would get 15" or 16" for the 3/4 to one ton trucks for less than $50⁰⁰ back then a piece. Well for now that's enough Old Man ranting 😆

[@monwell27]

I want a full size truck with manual windows, locks, transfer case, and transmission. The older I get the older my cars get. I’ll probably always be driving 90-00s cars

[@don2deliver]

Manual windows only works for regular cab with a bench seat. If you can't put down all the windows at a traffic light, you need power windows.

[@spokes28]

I know what I want! No batteries, no turbo charger! Internally combusted naturally aspirated horse power.

[@saeedhossain6099]

you have described a tractor. while I understand your sentiment, I have an EV, a hybrid and a diesel van, simply put the diesel, while very reliable, it won't push past 60 without major protests. it's really a step back in time, nice for the family for fun, but as far as Intercity highway travel, it's absolutely not a good option.

[@davehilling3944]

@@saeedhossain6099 must be an old diesel my old 6.0 F-250 doesnt struggle to hit 100... now do you want to go that fast in it is a whole other question...lol

[@kenmorrisproducer]

Crank start too? Or how are you going to get the engine moving?

[@saeedhossain6099]

@@davehilling3944 yes, 26 years old, and not designed for US highways, it's a 2.5l turbo diesel tuned for longevity in an 8 passenger van

[@craigcampbell8560]

@@saeedhossain6099 EV's aren't the answer either. They're excessively heavy, have much bigger carbon footprints than anyone is honest enough to admit, aren't zero emissions at all considering 85% of electricity is still produced via fossil fuel, are disposable because when the battery dies at roughly 10 years of age replacing it costs considerably than the vehicle is worth, and are considerably more expensive to own even though they claimed they would be cheaper. The market for them has nosedived for them because people are starting to figure out that they actually suck for most people.

[@ronjones1077]

USA companies were out classed by foreign due to reliability and cost issues. We gave up and focused on fancy trucks because they out sold the less powerful imports.

[@theneonlobster]

“100k cars were less common when I was younger” I imagine inflation had a bit of an impact in the last 20-30 years…

[@gw1814]

Maybe if ford didn't make shit vehicles?

[@DaxxTerryGreen]

Ford's quality is in the damn gutter. They have something like 65 RECALLS currently. Wake up Ford

[@arthurfoyt6727]

This is NOT about Ford. The EPA caused both the SUV craze and the bigger vehicle craze.

[@Roguesheepdog]

I would agree, but you won't say that when you drive a Ford F-350. And it hits 500k miles.

[@andrewlucas9937]

Agree bought a Ford bronco and sold it to CarMax when transmission started shifting rough at 7000 miles. Could've got it fixed under warranty but just wanted to be out of it. Lol. Ford is a POS.

[@Viper81766]

​@Rogeuesheepdog Exactly 💯

[@The_Fancave]

Ford has the ability to make amazing vehicles, (especially with the collaboration of Mazda), but has chosen not to. My '95 F-150 had 230K on the clock when I sold it. Anything with a 300 Straight 6, 5.8L, or 4.6L V8 was pure gold. They should also bring back manual transmissions. If they went back to making a basic F-150, (6 and stick), without all of the computerized mumbo jumbo it would outlast the apocalypse.

[@Edddie-iu3zk]

Pretty sure Mazda split from ford a long time ago. They are in a collaboration with Toyota now though

[@k9under]

E.V going to save the polar bears in miami fl.

[@riogrande163]

except nobody buys base model trucks, and they have limited margins.

[@davidhunternyc1]

Cars have become tech laden with crap we don't need. Cars are designed with planned obsolescence. There is a bright spot, however. Have you seen the forthcoming Citroen E-C3? All analog. The base model even lacks an infotainment screen, with only a usb-c connector for your smartphone. It's brilliant. We need this in the US.

[@zacklewis342]

Not allowed. Must have a backup cam and thus a flatscreen.

[@donalddepew9605]

They’re asking way too much money for these cars and trucks. Most of them are junk. Great Video!

[@dearyvettetn4489]

Imagine a working Gen-Z couple thinking that they can get by with one vehicle. One of my kids is facing a series of major repairs for the car they’ve been driving since high school. My husband and I are going to take on a few of the repairs to keep the car going but one of those is a timing belt replacement that we cannot do. If that goes, the vehicle is done. A replacement vehicle is not an option because swinging the monthly payments puts my child and their partner out of saving money and into living paycheck to paycheck. To my child, the money saved on fuel, and other auto expenses is best save for a big down payment on a used vehicle someday when their wages improve, but greed will find a way to fix that, as it always does. Something for auto makers to think about while chasing their quarterly sales goals while fighting to keep unions out and wages low. You’re making big complicated cars for a generation that may not be able to afford them while you and your billionaire buds pick their pockets. Not sustainable, guys.

[@jeffbranch8072]

There are 2 reasons for vehicles being the size they are now, and both are directly due to government regulations: 1) side impact regulations require vehicles to be wider to get those extra milliseconds to detect a side impact for the airbags to react to, and 2) CAFE regulations at the current level mean at a smaller footprint the fuel economy requirements would be absurd, so to get to a fuel economy they can meet requires a larger footprint (wheelbase x track). So bottom line, thanks to government regulations the AMC Pacer was way ahead of its time.

[@MrMezmerized]

Nonsense. Plenty of not-huge cars, particularly non-American ones, are just fine regarding safety standards and mileage.

[@dr.a.w]

@@MrMezmerized I believe the rule jeffbranch refers to is for trucks.

[@mikehannigan848]

we want simple cheap cars that are easy to fix and maintain and last forever that don't force us to buy useless tech we don't need just to get to and from work safe and quickly.

[@jamesbuckingham8073]

Buy a 53/54 chevy with 235cui, not as safe as newer cars but placing easy operation is better. Option then safety?

[@Loathsome_Lynx]

​@@jamesbuckingham8073a used Toyota Camry from the 90s is a much more logical choice. Safe enough, practical, efficient enough, adequate power, and incredible reliability. And early fuel injection isn't hard to work on either.

[@nicky5185]

I see many car automakers CEO, in a big meeting with a big screen, showing this very comment of yours and saying "... you see... this is why we don't make profits... we need to stop making reliable cars that are easy to fix..."

[@leftoverbacon]

we need to make it legal to build walkable neighborhoods again. A car shouldn’t be required to get to school, get groceries, visit a park, or corner bar.

[@Nun195]

Yep, we should make roads narrow and windy so big vehicles are impractical.

[@shaneamundson1192]

Get together with like minded people and start your own new town.

[@RickyHarline]

​@@shaneamundson1192 why not just fix the communities we already live in and love?

[@MuDkipzCHancelLOr]

@RickyHairline Countries like Germany do this. The homeownership rate is 47% and the cost of those homes are x5 of ours. No more bad ideas please, make your own town and leave us out of it.

[@RickyHarline]

@@MuDkipzCHancelLOr this is a result of manufacturing a housing crisis same as every other rich country, doesn't have anything to do with walkable cities. Vienna has some of the most affordable housing in Europe and it's extremely walkable

[@Zneedsmore]

YES! You are spot on about Ford! To add on to that, Ford was THE key automaker that started the whole 'we won't make sedans anymore' pattern.

[@robrobitaille4235]

Didn't Ford start out by making affordable cars so everyone could buy one? What the hell happened?

[@daison96]

I'd say people getting hit by cars has way more to do with the drivers being distracted by cell phones, than the size of the car.

[@arthurfoyt6727]

Honestly. pedestrians and bike riders are ALSO on there stupidPhones. I see that every day. Point is that if pedestrians/bike would just look BOTH WAYS before crossing a street the pedestrian/bile deaths would drop to zero.

[@georgekrpan3181]

@@arthurfoyt6727 I ride a bicycle every day. Your comment is laughable. Pedestrians and bike riders don't kill people in cars.

[@arthurfoyt6727]

@@georgekrpan3181 Cars can kill which is WHY pedestrians and bike riders need to follow all traffic rules AND still look both ways before crossing traffic. I ride bikes too and 9 out of 10 cyclists are either riding at night without lights or ignoring stop signs. It's disgraceful as it is dangerous.

[@georgekrpan3181]

@@arthurfoyt6727 I see way more cars breaking the law than pedestrians and bicycle riders. You may ride bikes but you're really not a bicycle rider if that's what you think.

[@arthurfoyt6727]

@@georgekrpan3181 Compared to cars, bikes run more stop signs. Compared to cars, bikes are ON THE WRONG SIDE OF THE ROAD way. way more than cars!

[@maxr4448]

Greed and the Federal government is destroying the cars business.

[@hansjansen7047]

On purpose

[@ryanreedgibson]

Greed and addiction t autos are destroying our lives. Your thought on the federal government is distorted by false ideological beliefs.

[@BuddyTheWolfYT]

I love my 81 Volkswagen Vanagon I saved from the scrapyard. It's small on the outside yet has a ton of space on the inside. Wont ever see anything like it made today.

[@pyiffer]

One way to encourage smaller cars, introduce a yearly road tax based on weight. Larger, heavier vehicles damage the roads more than lighter vehicles.

[@zacklewis342]

And a luxury goods tax needs to be implemented/jacked up (not just on cars), plus a limit on horsepower per ton, plus actual driver education and licensing...

[@Salty-ahole]

No more taxes, the government has never solved a problem with out screwing people.

[@MrMezmerized]

That's what we have here in the Netherlands. I think on average it's about 7 euro per month per 100kg extra.

[@jamesodell3064]

Europe gets people to buy small cars by taxing gasoline heavily. Their gasoline prices are about double what it costs us in the U.S.

[@criticalevent]

It's not like Toyota doesn't have the IMV, they just won't sell it to us.

[@Lcab-bh3wx]

Make it simple. Stick shift. Automated might be an XtrA. But I think Ford doesn't care for consumers.

[@wmason1961]

Manual transmissions do not have economies of scale. No manufacturer will continue a transmission production line that won't sell in numbers big enough to support it. Manual trans cost prohibitively more per unit to produce. It's the same reason that most cars come with power windows. Economies of scale are critically important. Auto is cheaper now.

[@abellseaman4114]

People would go nuts if they had to deal with a TEN SPEED MANUAL TRANSMISSION as they inch along through rush hour traffic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In related news - the modern eight or ten speed automatic transmission is computer controlled for maximum fuel efficiency - to prevent lazy drivers from over revving their manual transmissions and exceeding emission levels set by LIE-berals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The modern auto making biz is now ENTIRELY GEARED towards the desires of Woke and LIE-beral politicians who DEMAND MAXIMUM FUEL EFFICIENCY EVEN AT THE EXPENSE OF RELIABILITY - and the Woke DO NOT CARE about repair cost as such costly work will (THEY HOPE) discourage private ownership of cars...................................... and in any case the Woke DO NOT APPROVE of private ownership of motor vehicles in any case!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! LIE-berals want to END private ownership of personal vehicles - but they DO NOT want to be seen actively DESTROYING the industry and killing all those jobs - thus LIE-berals offer subsidies with one hand and impose idiot limitations with the other hand!!!!!!!!! Such Woke contradictions are DISCREETLY DESTROYING the car industry while stupid car maker CEO`s quietly PRAY they can grab up enough govt subsidies to salvage their biz!!!!

[@bmacaulay18]

@@wmason1961 A few years back I think the entire US market sold less than 5% manual transmissions. Manual transmissions are done in the US market. South America and Europe are full of them though.

[@wmason1961]

@@bmacaulay18 are you saying that you think U.S. auto manufacturers should continue to build transmissions at a loss because the rest of the world buys them? There will always be a segment of the population that wants manual transmissions, myself included but they will be priced higher than automatics eventually. In the U.S. they can't sell enough of them to justify the production costs without charging extra for a manual.

[@bmacaulay18]

​@@wmason1961 Absolutely not. I was in the car business for almost 30 years. Just stating a fact. Manuals are done in the USA. The people that scream the loudest about wanting them didn't buy them when they were available, which is why now they are not. They were hard to sell in 1993 when I started, anything manual these days is basically sale proof. The other core reason is the auto transmission cars are getting the same or better gas mileage so just because of CAFE laws there is no reason for manufacturers to even offer them here.

[@patricki7422]

Top 5 things I saw on the back of $50,000 pickups today. 1) Nothing 2) Bedcover 3) Toolbox 4) Trash 5) 1ea lawmower. So who is stupid enough to buy a $60,000 pickup to carry pretty much nothing? The American Consumer.

[@daniellarson3068]

Exactly - I traded in my 1993 Dakota a few years back. All the cab offerings had been super-sized at the expense of bed length. I passed on the new trucks.

[@RolandCruz-h6l]

Perhaps they do t carry all the time, and youre seeing these vehicles in between. As far as who's stupid enough to buy, it's those that can afford it. It must suck to be poor

[@daniellarson3068]

@@RolandCruz-h6l So good that you can feel empathy for the poor. Many drivers of large trucks seem to lack some of this basic human emotion. As far as you carrying dirt or garbage or whatever all the time, you are an exception. I second the original poster in that the majority of time the backs of pickups remain empty. I think the short beds of many pickups render their utility to be much less than trucks of yore.

[@RolandCruz-h6l]

@daniellarson3068 use a vehicle for whatever you want. Poor or not. You can buy an old truck that works well. In the u.s., we have choices. I admit the por choice was a bit sarcastic, but people shouldn't tell others what to do wolith their money unless asked. When I read posts like yours I wonder if you're tracking the same drivers all the time to know what they're actually using their vehicles for. I gatherbyou do not. Therefore I'm to conclude jealousy or simple contempt for whatever reason. Whichever it may be, realize those drivers are not driving their vehicles to invoke the feeli gs you harbor. I believe there are two types of people in this world regarding this issue.: those that want to be left alone, and those that Don want to leave people alone. Which are you. Do you, don't concern yourself with others because they are not concerned with you or your thoughts regarding what they drive. Your mental health will be more at ease for it.

[@daniellarson3068]

@@RolandCruz-h6l I see you answered in haste. Just a bit of proof reading would have helped you to express your anger. As far as your categorization of the two types of human beings, I don't put people in specific boxes like that. There is a broad spectrum of humanity. We all have our good points and bad points. Have a good day. Enjoy your loaded truck rides.

[@Lakeman3211]

Back then 15-20 years ago fuel economy was the highest priority, when the government realized that fuel tax revenues could rise if that principle was overlooked the game was on, fuel economy’s are flat, weights are up, speed limits are way up…and revenues are way way up!…

[@anonymousdogg1559]

I heard no one that agreed it was right for car companies to go “ALL IN” on EVs. Also I know a lotta folks that are DOWN AF to go back to small vehicles, BUT… no one really is willing to do so because of accidents with huge F-250s/2500HD and smaller cars, many times small cars end up looking like an accordion and probably taking lives of those in the car as well. I’ve seen TikTok videos where people say “big truck/suv” saved our lives, but irl it’s just creating more of a problem.

[@jamesvandamme7786]

It's right for car companies to start shifting over to EVs. The early adopters have already got their big expensive ones, and now it's time for Detroit to start making cheap ones. Ford is working on one at their skunk works, GM has a new Bolt coming, Stellantis has loads of European models they could bring over here. Let's get 'er done!

[@montegomadness]

When Ford announced ceasing production of actual cars, i decided that i had likely bought my last new Ford product, unless i decided to "pony up" (pun intended) for a new Mustang. I've owned something like 12 or 13 Fords, around 10 Mercurys, and one Lincoln, of which all were sedans or coupes except one Crown Victoria wagon, one Aerostar, and one very basic Ranger. One of the best cars I've ever owned was my 2014 Fusion, right up until it was rear-ended at 70 mph by a girl with no insurance. I replaced it with a 2014 MKZ with lower miles and have been very happy with it. I also have a 2019 Taurus Limited bought used in December 2019 for a great price, very happy with that as well. And i still have my 2003 Ranger bought used 8 years ago with 38k miles on it. Even then and used, it was hard to find a basic truck. For me, trucks have their place. If you need to haul heavy stuff, by all means buy a big pickup. But does it make sense to spend $60-80k on a truck that you're afraid to scratch it?

[@ogles824]

One of the major pieces to this the last UAW contract negotiation. I’d also have to agree on the car/truck/suv sizes. Do most folks need a 4 door pickup, I’d say if you really examine your situation most of us would have to say no.

[@williammortl3110]

I mean, it’s ridiculous Aubrey. I want a Ford Maverick XL Ecoboost with AWD and 4k tow - which is about $31K. I just want to add a sliding rear window, heated seats, and a sunroof. That should be, tops, $3K extra… for a grand total of $34K. Here’s where they rake customers over the coals for profit. I can’t simply add the features I want though. To get those features I need to get the Lariat (for the sliding window) or upgrade to the XLT and get the premium package with stuff I DONT WANT for THOUSANDS more. Part of making cars affordable is simply letting consumers get only the features they want, but they’ll never do it! They continue the package model so they can gouge us for stuff we don’t even want! So what am I going to do? Skip those extra features id love to get (and pay for) and just get the more basic vehicle.

[@dvader3263]

Yes, those items could be skipped. Add aftermarket heated seat function. Or, pay a few thousand more for the extras. The things you like won't be regretted. If you can afford a 30k+ new vehicle, you can afford a few thousand more.

[@joedonbaker1673]

I agree. Allow us to pick our options. Stop the packages.

[@pwrbyford68]

When I ordered my ‘22 Maverick xl I was super annoyed that I couldn’t put cruise control in. Like come on, it’s already built in the ecu. Slap some 50 cent buttons on the wheel and let me have cruise. But they want me to upgrade to xlt which easily adds 3k more. Nope. I can unlock cruise with forscan and put my own buttons in.

[@pwrmac7600]

I agree, but also see the manufacturer's side of this. If all options were a la carte the production costs would skyrocket even more. The way they bundle features now is so they can build x amount of cars to one spec, and x amount of cars to another spec. Allowing customer the ability to pick individual features would literally mean custom building every car on the line, which is impractical from a production standpoint.

[@pwrbyford68]

@@pwrmac7600 Actually the stuff you can customize is pretty long and has caused some trucks to take longer to build (like spray in bedliner). Cruise is now offered in all mavericks regardless of trim. They should have done that from the start.

[@claudiameier666]

if someone needs all this tech to drive a vehicle then they shouldnt be on the road period

[@deeveloper2567]

It's simple numbers. No manufacturer is going to make 100,000 vehicles selling for $10,000 each when they can make 10,000 vehicles selling for $100,000 each.

[@MrMezmerized]

Unless few people buy one of $100,000. Then it becomes more profitable to make smaller cars with a little less margin.

[@1001Hobbies]

In 2014 I bought a 2012 Ford Focus Hatchback SE with a transmission with only 16,000 miles on it.The original sticker price was $22,400. I only paid $14,000 for the car. I still have it and I am keeping it. Today's cars are nothing more than data collection devices. Your privacy is gone. You didn't believe "Over the air updates" was for YOUR benefit, did you? Now they can download the data your car collected on you at ANY TIME THEY WANT. They sell your data to a data collection company, and they sell the data to your insurance company, and that time that deer stepped in front of your car, the worker in a work zone looked like he was going to step in front of your car, and the car suddenly backing out of a parking space that almost hit you, and they all caused you to slam on your brakes.....now that makes you look like reckless driver, so your insurance rate gets increased. They know were you went, when, how many times, how many people you took with you, and how many were kids or adults. My car has 172,000 miles on it and still runs like new. I'm going to get some small rust spots fixed and keep this car. When it needs a new engine, it is still cheaper to pay $4,000 for that than $38,000 for a new vehicle.

[@thomasgeorgecastleberry6918]

There prices are ridiculous! And then there's car insurance! Smaller cars, don't cut down on the leg room!

[@dmaxcustom]

Modern cars are also ugly. For the price they ask at the very least they could be pretty to look at.

[@jamesvandamme7786]

It would help if they had colors. Not hearse black, battleship gray, or refrigerator white; those are not colors.

[@mustangecoboosthpp3869]

Remove all these bells and whistles from these vehicles, they are not needed, all they do is run up the price and when they break and they will break they cost a small fortune to repair.

[@simongarcia2083]

Bring back hatchbacks and wagons PLEASE. Theyre some of the most practical vehicles with the most usable space, SUVs and trucks took over simply by image alone, an old wagon from the early to late 2000s has just as much if not more cargo capacity than a lot of the modern SUVs while also being more aerodynamically efficient and having better handling. SUVs are also much more prone to rolling over with their stupidly high center of gravity. SUVs are kind of the worst vehicle body style for practicality, fuel efficiency, and handling. But nobody buys a vehicle for those reasons anymore, they buy based on how they feel and SUVs make people feel overly confident and "powerful" which im sure is why the worst overall drivers have a tendency to heavily gravitate towards SUVs over anything

[@tattooedmillionair]

If I may be so bold as to add to your comment: Wanting a bigger vehicle for safety because of so many vehicles on the road with aggressive drivers. If you're in a larger vehicle, better chance to (survive / minimal damage) a wreck with and equal sized vehicle. Even if the reason for the accident is caused by a smaller car, larger cars give the feeling of safety for you and your occupants. Now everyone just needs to learn to drive AND learn the rules-of-the-road, but i'll leave that alone here.

[@jonathanrabeno6349]

I've got a Honda fit and it's devastating that it's no longer offered in North America. I don't know what I'm gonna get next now.

[@kenmorrisproducer]

Kia Soul? I love mine.

[@jamesvandamme7786]

Move to China, I guess. Loads of them there, and great EVs.

[@SuperChaoticus]

So many of us love our XL vehicles because we love our XL meals which lead to XL body size.

[@Desertbiker617]

Glug glug glug

[@highlymedicated2438]

My digestive system could no longer handle it after 40

[@dastardlydave1455]

People did not buy Ford's small cars (Focus/Fiesta) because the dual clutch transmission reliability, not because of market changes. After the newness wore off, the reliability caught up with them. They knowingly released a car with problems with no permanent fix. Every 20-30k miles you had to argue with your dealer multiple times that you had a problem and they would replace the dual clutch. I liked my Focus. I traded it after the first transmission repair.

[@Drewcardello]

Yep, their eCVT in the c-max or Maverick is much more reliable than the trash dual-clutch in the focus. (Which is funny, because it was a Japanese transmission) My cousin had one that broke with just 45k on it.

[@sjoukedijkstra7110]

Europeans bought the manual, very reliable.

[@barberdoug6930]

I had great luck always buying Escorts and Focuses with manual Trans but everyone I know that bought the junk automatics had major problems

[@gregburkowski5019]

​@@Drewcardelloprobably a unit that the Japanese knew was defective so they sold them to Ford cheap instead of vfc scrapping them completely

[@Drewcardello]

@@gregburkowski5019 I’m not crapping on the Japense, sorry if I didn't make that clear

[@stephencooper5040]

This is not a manufacturer created problem it is a government created problem. The EPA more specifically regulates fuel economy based upon the SIZE of the vehicle. And they have ridiculous standards that are nearly impossible to meet… so when a manufacturer can’t meet them, they just make the car, or truck, bigger.

[@MrMezmerized]

41mpg for a normal car is not "ridiculous". Any recent non-American car can (easily) do that. And it's the manufacturers that lobbied for weaker standards for big cars. And they make plenty of money to be able produce smaller cars with smaller profit margins. And if more people buy those, the quantity compensates. But no, people have to keep up with the Joneses

[@magicunicorn6535]

Back in 1986 I was able to buy an F250 diesel 4x4 for $19,500. Now they've almost tripled in price.