Carl Lewis Reveals the TRUTH Behind the Ben Johnson Doping Scandal | Undeniable with Dan Patrick

[@stonew1927]

But HE was DIRTY too!!! Dude is as morally bankrupt as they come! You can hear it in his words defending the use of drugs and saying it was good for the sport because it generated interest. So much HYPOCRISY!!

[@theninjacat7200]

I listened to the interview and I don't think that's what he was saying. He wasn't saying the use of steroids was good. He said the amount of media generated was off the scale and that attention could be used to boost the sport.

[@rogerc23]

After 30 years of watching this play out I actually just feel sorry for Carl Lewis now. Carl we all know it was dirty. And we don’t actually care that much. We understand. Set yourself free. Tell the truth like Ben has. Sell a book and just make peace with your life. You’re older now and it’s best you don’t take this negative to the grave. Peace bro. God Bless.

[@joekendras]

@@rogerc23 The problem is if you admit you doped isn't there a chance your medals are taken away? Or is there some statue of limitations rule. There is a reason obvious ex dopers still don't confess, or like Marian set a date you supposably started (2000) so you atleast don't lose all your medals.

[@whatthe3504]

@@joekendras not really but his image that he has built up would be ruined. track is one of the sports where it would really negate what he was really capable of doing without it due to there not being a technical aspect like other sports that may still have an advantage to taking it like baseball for example.

[@tom11zz884]

Yeah, but Ben was on that really heavy illegal stuff

[@halo3tes4]

Forgot to mention the passes he got from our olympic committee for also failing drug test ! Multiple times, carl lewis was dirty too

[@stevenjohnson7720]

YES!

[@broncosbest6441]

The only one who ran clean in that race was the Brazilian Roberto Da Silva. There was a program about it on U.K. TV years ago

[@jonfklein]

Could be. There's an interview with Calvin Smith out there where he basically says that Lewis was on drugs during those years too. I think Ben got caught because he had an injury earlier in the season (hamstring?) and threw caution to the wind in deciding to use steroids to recover so close to the olympics. He wanted to win so bad that he just rolled the dice and ended up getting caught.

[@fingersm]

Garbage human

[@thepavementendsnow1901]

Carl had a better doctor! lol Ben was so much faster…

[@peytonlucy5947]

Carl Lewis failed three drug tests during the Olympic trials, the same year. He shouldn't have even been in that race with Johnson. Did Dan Patrick bring that up in the interview? I hope so, if not he is gutless.

[@theprofessor8589]

He was not doing ROIDS like 'Big Ben'!! Carl 'failed' his tests because he was on pain medication, not ROIDS, so you are 'gutless' for not doing your research, HATIN on Lewis!

[@fingersm]

Course not

[@ab2abblank607]

For having the active ingredient of a cough suppressant in his system?

[@theprofessor8589]

@@ab2abblank607 Some people on here just want to be ignorant for no reason.

[@mattd6593]

@@ab2abblank607 Which also happens to be molecules of stimulants. Gee, I wonder why a sprinter would use stimulants? Add to that the HGH tooth separation and enlarged forehead. Also he excelled in an era known as the dirtiest in pro sport. But please go on and tell me how he never failed a test lol?

[@johngillis7625]

Carl was also doped. Crazy how he can talk like he was a clean athlete. Why was this not pointed out during the interview? Dan you were pretty soft with him and fed the lie and his ego. So much for good reporting.

[@ab2abblank607]

Doped? On what? The common stimulant that's found in over-the-counter cough medicine?

[@johnstirling6597]

Carl is great at crafting the story, Ben was wearing the "black" cowboy hat and of course Carl was the saint. The truth is, history has shown everyone in the 1988 100 meter final has a degree of suspicion attached and Carl is not any different.

[@decathlete2000]

not only that but all the 8 finalists were caught dirty 😅😂🤣... and i bet 99,999999% olympians/world level athletes are doping

[@johnstirling6597]

@@decathlete2000 Just look at the recent "unexplained" death of Charles Kipsang and look at the history of doping in Kenya.

[@Stravinsky75]

He tested positive for cold medication at a level that would not have given a positive test today because doctors say it is unlikely to affect performance.

[@CaneFu]

The hypocrisy here is off the charts as Carl Lewis was also on PEDs.

[@haroldpierre1726]

I believe anyone consistently running sub 10 seconds is dirty!

[@Michael_from_EU_Germany]

@@haroldpierre1726 Then or now? Note the improvements to the tartan track and spike carbon shoes. 15/100 better times now.

[@vernonfrance2974]

@@Michael_from_EU_Germany 💯

[@anthonymcken6050]

@@haroldpierre1726 No one can run sub 9.9 consistently without taking PEDs consistently. The amount of muscle power needed to run sub 9.9 is on the same level with wild animals. This is why they have to inject EPO which is what they give to flat race horses.

[@14sumnerheights]

Carl Lewis is a delusional fraud. He ranks as one of the greatest creeps in sports history.

[@ScreamingEagleFTW]

He was extremely fast also.

[@charlesbromberick4247]

wrong

[@charlesbromberick4247]

@@patricksweeney5308 I, too, remember Carl at his peak and couldn´t agree more with what you are saying, Pat.

[@MrDeltoid75]

Ben Johnson burner account?

[@Cerastes22]

None of the steroids matter. Just watch the final in Slo Mo and count with me. 1. 2. 3. That’s how many times Carl Lewis stepped out of his lane while panicking. Don’t take my word for it - watch it yourself. Carl Lewis should have been DISQUALIFIED from the final for leaving his lane.

[@speakthetruth5308]

As one of the most successful drug cheats in history ,he has the gall to speak about Ben.

[@Squadron_Bodron]

This is antisemitic

[@Frank.and.Beanzz]

😂😂​@@Squadron_Bodron

[@Squadron_Bodron]

@@Frank.and.Beanzzshut up idiot. How is Jew hatred funny.

[@Sagis615]

aint that the truth

[@olliejoker1862]

The one thing I will never tolerate is Hypocrisy….

[@petenojd]

Wow. I lost serious respect for Dan Patrick here. Always been one of my favourites but he's seriously lacking in integrity to push the narrative that only Ben was dirty. The guy you're interviewing is too, Dan! I expect this from Carl, but I'm disappointed to say the least in how Patrick has chosen to come at this.

[@IvyMay-qn2ys]

Exactly, the entire field that day was pissing hot. Lewis was a poster boy for steroid jaw. He was a black Roger Ramjet. It was only because Johnson wasn't a US athlete that he got hung out to dry n

[@mattd6593]

@@IvyMay-qn2ys HGH jaw actually. Steroids don't make bone grow, HGH does. Just look at Lebron lol

[@IvyMay-qn2ys]

@@mattd6593 HGH makes everything grow. That's why it's called human growth hormone. But he wasn't only on HGH. The jawline becomes prominent primarily due to jaw muscle growth.

[@mattd6593]

@@IvyMay-qn2ys Rubbish bro, I ran all kinds of steroid cycles for 15 years and your jaw doesn't change.

[@IvyMay-qn2ys]

@@mattd6593 Sure, Cause your experience is the same as it is for everyone right? You have an internet connection. Try searching "steroid jaw" & you'll see that there are other people in the world that have had changes in their jaw. HGH & testosterone make things grow. If your jaw muscles enlarge like other muscles do. Because you clench down when you exert force. What do you think happens to the size of your jaw? It's common sense. Look at before & after pics of body builders. Their face changes too. Yours may not have because you're soft.

[@platform15gym]

Everyone was doping. Ben won. Stop pretending to be "Mr. Clean" Carl.

[@ArmandoMartinez-k7h]

True they we're all dirty..

[@bone-key20]

Right he was dirty to

[@nickoyfaulknor5762]

Only Raymond steward in that race was clean

[@Jed-pk6zg]

6 in the race were later to be confirmed to being using but Ben took the fall.

[@ArmandoMartinez-k7h]

@@nickoyfaulknor5762true!!

[@anthonymcken6050]

In Carl Lewis' mind he's the cleanest sprinter that has ever ran.

[@ShaneCrawfordGreatness]

isn't the hypocrisy hilarious?

[@IvyMay-qn2ys]

He'd still piss hot today. His jaw was the epitome of a steroid use symptom.

[@ianlaing4935]

Usain bolt is

[@oscarmoss1950]

😂😂😂❤❤❤​@@IvyMay-qn2ys

[@mattd6593]

@@IvyMay-qn2ys HGH actually it makes everything grow, same as his forehead. Him and Lebron could be brothers

[@mattmurphy24]

I remember the look on carl Lewis's face during the race, when he looked at Johnson. It was like what the ..! Johnson was running like a mad man! It was disingenuous for him to speak about Johnson's drug use and not mention his own ban for stimulants.

[@duanebrown3016]

Probably but he did set the record for the 100 at his high school I believe he was 15

[@AlonzoSuates]

Amen, brother.

[@AlonzoSuates]

@@duanebrown3016 lmao

[@terencedennis3972]

He was like , Wow his steroids are way stronger than mines lol

[@AlonzoSuates]

@@terencedennis3972 rotflmao

[@MatticusPrime1]

Carl Lewis was on drugs too. So disingenuous of him to talk like he was clean.

[@boosnakejones]

Carl was a cheater as well. Can’t stand these liars

[@ab2abblank607]

Tell us how he cheated, please.

[@boosnakejones]

@@ab2abblank607 every runner in that race failed drug test

[@decathlete2000]

yup@@boosnakejones

[@jollymolly2521]

@@ab2abblank607 Google The Guardian's story on cheating in track & field in the '80s/'90s and read about Carl Lewis and his special "cough syrup" and missed drug tests. They didn't have the tests back then that there are now. Ben Johnson took something he KNEW they could test for. That's how badly he wanted to beat Carl Lewis who acted like he wasn't also taking "supplements."

[@Thereallevan]

@@ab2abblank607 we stopped believing in the fairytale that during the cold war, the Sowjet Union doped their athletes to the gills. And the US (all the anti doping agencies are there) won because of their talent and hard work. Gtfoh

[@damon123jones]

dirty Carl calling the kettle black....ben johnsen was amazing

[@ezg2000]

Carl had his friend put steroids in Ben's beer. Carl set him up.

[@B41L3Y]

Your mouth is amazing

[@B41L3Y]

@@ezg2000lame ass comment

[@damon123jones]

@@B41L3Y you mean your moms mouth right

[@HTHAMMACK1]

@@ezg2000 Complete bullshit.

[@lokeybro]

Carl Lewis was dirty too. Only Ben Johnson got vilified.

[@paulharrisonadventuregearm5457]

Nothing ike as dirty as Ben. Carl certainly wasn't on a strong steroid IF he was

[@tmlogan139]

@@paulharrisonadventuregearm5457 Bullshit. He was twice as dirty. Especially the way he keeps getting up on that soapbox and pontificating for all the world to see.

[@70thomson]

There is no advantage with cardio when it comes to steroids, that’s why you see the mass monsters breathing so heavy, no endurance.

[@lokeybro]

@70thomson Sprinting isn't Cardio but ok

[@70thomson]

@@lokeybro you have zero clue. Go back to sleep 🤣

[@makinhoops9607]

The title says the “truth”? He’s still lying about this. It’s truly unbelievable. I remember how arrogant he was at the Olympics watching as a kid. Come clean Carl. 🤡

[@JC-se8mi]

9.79 is the record. They’re all doped up. He got beat. Face it.

[@vincent-ze4eu]

Carl Lewis was a hypercrite he did the same thing so he no better then Ben Johnson was his problem is he is a sorry loser and disrespected new jersey because that's where he is from not Texas

[@umainebearman]

How do you disrespect New Jersey when it has no respect. It's a literally trash dumpster.

[@northfellow]

My track and field coach was good friends with Charlie Francis. My coach said that there were at least 7 runners in that final on drugs.

[@pictureofmyjunk2279]

There were 8.

[@evsparslay9565]

​@@pictureofmyjunk2279Nope 7 only Raymond Stewart wasn't on drugs from Jamaica

[@pictureofmyjunk2279]

@@evsparslay9565 🙄 uh huh.

[@pictureofmyjunk2279]

@@evsparslay9565 Just as clean as the Brazilian was.

[@evsparslay9565]

@@pictureofmyjunk2279 Oh well its 6 out of the 8 athletes

[@olbucky9413]

Are you kidding me? Carl Lewis on the moral high ground? Lmao.

[@anthonymcken6050]

He's been that way his whole career and still is. I've always found him to be obnoxious.

[@toddm9501]

He's got the correct person to interview him. Dem dan. He never met a conservative, that he could interview honestly.

[@jollymolly2521]

Huh? Are you not fond of "cough syrup?" Everybody loves cough syrup, don't they? LOL! I'll say this much for Carl Lewis - he's always been up his own ass. It's OK if he takes "cough syrup" but everyone else has to be clean.

[@joef3423]

​@@anthonymcken6050 Everybody in that race was on peds.

[@topfitnessssss]

And ?? He never abused steroids like that fool of Ben did, what's your problem ??

[@henokbaarez7464]

He was dirty too !!! It’s in the 30 for 30 documentary!!!!

[@Seattlegrungescene]

In a dictionary, right behind the word hypocrite should be Carl Lewis' picture.

[@terencedennis3972]

They should give Ben back his win. Carl was on steroids also. Ben just had the best lol

[@Ghostmanriding]

How true,lol.

[@PaulJohnson-zk1yr]

They both should be out. The true champion of that race was Calvin Smith

[@joekendras]

@@PaulJohnson-zk1yr LOL as if Calvin Smith was clean either.

[@PaulJohnson-zk1yr]

@@joekendras never indicated or suggested by anybody. Unlike 6 of the other 7. So we say either everybody is clean or everybody is dirty. And to say everybody is dirty is a load of shit. Ben was / is an embarrassment to Canadian track and field

[@joekendras]

@@PaulJohnson-zk1yr "and to say everybody is dirty is a load of shit." Haha what a delusional clown you are. Especialy in the freaking 70s and 80s. If you think anyone was clean back then you are crazy.

[@miabrandt1926]

Carl is damn dishonest: ...how can he think Ben is dirty while being himself?

[@rogerc23]

Ben and his coach have admitted everything they did. Carl still trying to deceive when everyone knows the truth. Some sort of psychosis with this guy.

[@AlonzoSuates]

If its a American than they can do no wrong. That hold field was probably dirty. They were just pissed cause carl got blown away. Carl failed many a test.

[@ShaneCrawfordGreatness]

as an American- i cannot stand Carl Lewis. stop with that nonsense.

[@IvyMay-qn2ys]

Exactly!! The USA had the best chemists money could buy. Only the Russians were beating them but that was for strength events.

[@zumaanandrade3961]

No Cananda had the best dope back then. The thing was America could not detect it but they blamed Ben for it anyway.@@IvyMay-qn2ys

[@TrojansFirst]

Carl never tested positive for steroids.

[@AlonzoSuates]

@@TrojansFirst he failed at least 3 tests. But you go right on thinking that.

[@PhilMann-s6g]

Carl was on the juice too. Missing tests etc. he’s delusional

[@ItIs-m3v]

Lewis also tested positive that same year.

[@User-zzyyxxvv]

Talked to a pro runner one day and he told me everyone is doped up. Its’s about who doesn’t get caught. They’re great athletes but many of them are juiced

[@clintfowler1526]

Then why did Ben Johnson keep failing tests???? Dude couldn’t pass a single drug test

[@fifthbusiness1678]

Everyone who lined up in the blocks for that 100m race in 1988 was eventually found to be dirty. Ben simply ran the race of his life.

[@michaeltalley51]

I can't listen to Carl without thinking of his horrible and delightful rendition of The Star Spangled Banner.

[@chuckfinley3542]

I was in the stands that day, and as a musician I thought: I’ve never heard a famous person sing the National Anthem in so many keys at once.

[@kl1172]

Uh oh…

[@labynoe]

@@chuckfinley3542 Q: What key is it in? Carl Lewis: ALL of them!🤣

[@juanestadian8471]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣@@chuckfinley3542

[@emjay2045]

@@labynoe😂😂😂

[@NebraskaGonvilleJones]

Carl Lewis was my hero growing up. To find out all these years later he would become this lying cynical two faced coward is shattering. Carl, drop the ego tell the truth and own up.

[@nealgaudet3972]

Years later we found out all the racers in this event including Carl Lewis were drugged. Carl did more drugs then all of them combined. Ben kicked all their asses that day and that year. He was so much better then Carl. Carl cheated. And he acts like he did nothing wrong. Carl also was found years after he had cheated with drugs about 15 times.

[@SteinJohnsen-iu6bf]

" Carl did more drugs then all of them combined". You are really unserious.

[@williamgoss6549]

Calvin Smith NEVER tested positive in his career. He was great and didn’t he have the WR . Quiet, slender guy from Mississippi attended Alabama. Honor and integrity always. Justice is seldom served ; those nasty Russians? Hypocrisy is as pliable as putty and most people just go with the flow…..sadly far beyond athletics. When an East European woman has near unbreakable records we laugh about pit hair and masculinity. But a Flo Jo? Beautiful, articulate, flawless style….. 84-88 metamorphosis- hard work and dedication alone. Fair? that’s where we eat cotton candy, candied apples, and guess how much the pig weighs!

[@jeffmartin8249]

Two of the biggest tools of the sporting world in the same room…

[@pk525]

Ben was like, "Hey, I was competing in a level playing field. I'm just the only one that got caught."

[@zumaanandrade3961]

What Ben was using America could not detect it.

[@pete3445]

Ben was right

[@ajparr5585]

Ben won on a level playing field.

[@ridleystewart9283]

Carl you know the truth about doping

[@GaryPollard-o3c]

He was also a cheat. Disgraceful by him.

[@malindirugbyfootballclub1180]

Wait, and Carl was clean? Come on.

[@stephaneblais9149]

Liar Lewis!!

[@AnsonCooper]

The hubris of this man to sit on that stage and say these things is utterly despicable. The binary of Good vs. Bad in a sport where EVERY mofo is on something is insane.

[@mikekinsella2822]

1988 olympics was the roid olympics. Flo jo was juiced to the max too.

[@rogerc23]

But am I the only one turned on by her husky man voice and muscles? I sort of felt like her clit would poke my eye out or choke me

[@elihudcarter6577]

Flo Jo was never juiced and I was never a fan of hers but so many people use to hear that about her.So I decided to watch tapes of her winning her races and I could clearly notice that she was not fast because of juice she was fast because for a female sprinter she had a different running style she had longer legs than other female sprinters and when she ran she had longer strides than the other female sprinters.She ate up the yards with those long strides much faster than the other females

[@mikekinsella2822]

@@elihudcarter6577 fo jo was not juiced and OJ didn't do it. Comeon man. Yes she did have a different style but she was juiced to the max like everyone was,

[@joekendras]

That era was full of doping, but Flo Jo is the only one who took so many horse pills she in fact died early from it. I swear she was 40% horse, 40% man, and 20% woman in 88.

[@ingoneufeld4885]

@@elihudcarter6577sprinting records to not stand for almost 40 years unless there was something untoward going on. Not even a chance that Flo-Jo was clean

[@adiosgamer3793]

He is being honest about his experience and of his take on Johnson. Back then EVERYONE was using them but doing it to not get caught. It WAS the sport and doesn't make him worse or better than the rest.

[@hellokittyjp9323]

The comments are so horrible but I expect it from a bunch of anonymous ppl

[@Robert-mn8gc]

Still one of the Best 100 mtrs Races 🏁 of all time ⏲️ Ben Johnson was Electric out of the Blocks

[@zumaanandrade3961]

he was also benching 300lbs

[@alejandropeca7515]

In high level sports you have to use enhancing substances because you are compelled to. If everyone is using them, then the playfield is leveled. For that reason, Ben's win is still legendary. His explosive start and his awesome power physique was delightful to watch. The rest was just politics within the sport.

[@vernonfrance2974]

[@michaelthomae8749]

Some big companies wanted him to win!

[@thepavementendsnow1901]

It appears Carl is still a liar…

[@DrJake108]

Ben Johnson said after the race one of Lewis’s people handed him a beer He said the beer was spiked with steroids and that’s why he was caught He admitted to doing steroids but said the stuff he got caught with wasn’t what he was taking

[@IvyMay-qn2ys]

The entire field ended up testing positive either then or not long after. Johnson got pinged because he was Canadian.

[@ren17x50]

Not the Brazilian runner or Calvin Smith. All the others were caught at some point. Those two runners also never win big races ever after those Olympics

[@pictureofmyjunk2279]

​@ren17x50 Really we going with that 🙄. If you think one of them was clean in that race U slower then a clean sprinter.

[@mickdenis6630]

The truth was Dr. Jamie Aspthan who provided the steriods to the Canadian sprinters, and who was handling Johnson before the games, lied to Ben about the injections he was getting from him. So that is why Ben ended up testing positive. They didn't stop the drugs in time to have a clear test at the games. It all came out at the 'Dubin Inquiry".

[@rogerc23]

And the dosage in his system would have had to have been taken within 24 hours. Ben was clean of roids 35 days before the Olympics.

[@jimdellavecchia4594]

Please don't let Carl sing!!!

[@derekthompson5731]

Track and Field was like Cycling.... Ben won the race... the fastest doped guy among all the other doped guys... Same with Lance... a legend... doped winner in a field of doped contenders

[@TangoPappa]

Ben was not only the faster runner, he was also the better man and still is. While Carl as up today is still a loser I have so much respect for Ben, a kind, honest and good man. Regards from a Dutch ex sporter, I wish Ben the best.

[@akarilotube]

Carl should lay low like Lance Armstrong should have after his initial retirement; I mean seriously.

[@rogerc23]

He’s coaching UofH track team.

[@joe-hp4nk]

Bens mistake, he got caught. Drugs or no drugs, Ben was the fastest.

[@markmcdonald1663]

Stupid comment Bribe or no bribe, Putin he had the most votes countered

[@frozendivots1564]

Cheating or no cheating, Biden had the most votes

[@letsbereal7897]

lol Carl with his braces 😬 because of his jaw growth smh, I remember countless track guys talking about his audacity when talking about steroid use..

[@halo3tes4]

He failed multiple drug tests , the powers behind Usa track gave him a pass .... carl lewis is a liar, claimed it was cold meds @real7897

[@judahsong]

Ben never had times like that prior to using

[@bobbrown3827]

This can't be recent/real!!! This interview has to be a joke considering all we know about that time now. I must be in the simulation.

[@rogerc23]

I knew that large hadron collider was a bad idea.

[@MaxisMaximal]

Johnson was not that stupid take the drugs to shortly before the olympics. His medical team checked him for sure before the run.

[@dr5951]

This is 36 years ago and he's still crying the blues. He was whining back then and still doing it, GET OVER IT! How many athletes back then and how many athletes now are still using band substances? Doesn't make it right, the science of masking is better now than it was 36 years ago. For Ben's one mistake when he was 26 years old, Carl is reminding the world 36 years later. I worked at a gym in NewMarket Ontario Canada where Ben did his strength training after he returned to "normal life" and he was never the same after all the ridicule he took from that one incident. He was stripped of all the medals he won prior. How does the athletic commission know that he was doping prior to the 88 Olympics. The pressure he must have felt to beat Carl must have been immense.

[@chrisv.noire.6388]

Carl was also on the juice

[@tonymeinerding7463]

Dan Patrick is consistent - consistent in interrupting all of his guests!

[@AIMAGICSTREAM]

😂

[@carlpolych736]

Carl Lewis the dirtiest "clean " athlete of those olympics

[@sniper10666]

As a doctor I can tell that anyone that has braces on his/her teeth indicates that they are using steroids as it will separate the teeth, hence is why he wore a retainer

[@vernonfrance2974]

RIGHT! N0T!

[@billthecat3688]

Dan Patrick refuses to call out Lewis for failing drug tests. This is a disgusting interview.

[@tonycunha3310]

He is msm can't expect any mora values preached on their platform. It would anathema to them.

[@tima.478]

Well, If both guys are dirty, and Carl STILL got dusted...then there you have it! Ben don *Molly Whopped* that azz! 🤣

[@nickcampbell8619]

yep, so given that Johnson was somehow the ONLY track athlete IN THE WORLD that 'tested positive' at that olympics, there should have just been NO gold medal. Should have been Lewis with a silver, Christie bronze. No gold, cuz they were all dirty, and got their dirty asses kicked. You don't deserve a gold for that imo

[@jamesbianchei]

They say the majority of athletes in the Olympics have used P.E.D.s so I am not sure why this is even being discussed.

[@rogerc23]

Back then yes. It qas the Cold War and we all knew the Russian and East Germans etc were all on it heavily. So to compete people turned a blind eye in a lot of ways and pretended we were all clean and they weren’t.

[@thecook..]

Ben smoked your old ass😂😂

[@abed83a]

Wade Exum, former head of the United States anti-doping programme, has alleged that the man voted the greatest athlete of the 20th century was among more than 100 competitors, including 19 Olympic medallists, involved in a cover-up of drug use from 1988 to 2000. Exum claims Lewis tested positive for stimulants during the 1988 US Olympic trials but had a 12-week suspension overturned by the United States Olympic Committee, allowing him two months later to win two gold medals in Seoul.

[@gtrdoc911]

At the end he seems to say that if the sport is completely clean, the times in the 100 would be 11 flat. Pretty well admitting his guilt and the guilt of all the top guys.

[@julianjunior8165]

Johnson was a scapegoat, asteroids were common in many athletes, many more tested positive; from the final in Seoul 88, six runners had incidents with positives in their professional life. The Americans and Lewis had a lot of weight in the athletics association, they could not let the opportunity pass. This does not mean that Ben ran legally.

[@justineebourgeois3420]

Carl Lewis took steroids too! Despicable man. 🤦‍♀️

[@vernonfrance2974]

[@barrycrichards]

Doesn’t have the balls to ask him if he was clean or why his bodyguard tainted Ben’s test. Lame

[@Fish.Filet.]

Before Noah Lyles, there was this guy

[@parkergrimes3374]

Back then it was rumors and more rumors of track and field athletes testing positive but no actual prof. False accusations that really hurt the sport....

[@MiniUsyk]

They were all 'dirty'.

[@rogerc23]

After 30 years of watching this play out I actually just feel sorry for Carl Lewis now. Carl we all know it was dirty. And we don’t actually care that much. We understand. Set yourself free. Tell the truth like Ben has. Sell a book and just make peace with your life. You’re older now and it’s best you don’t take this negative to the grave. Peace bro. God Bless.

[@mickdenis6630]

Carl was a great talent. Unfortunately, he was not a very likeable athlete. He just didn't translate to the fans. Just want to clarify the newspaper article shown about the Johnson Inquiry, it was called the "Dubin Inquiry", not the Johnson Inquiry ! W5 Canada, did an expose on the LA and how 4 top Olympic officals decided to keep the secret that 34 American athletes tested positive at the games. The results were in the safe of an US OC official, and they ended up disappearing. There is a document with the signatures. This Expose used to be on youtube.

[@vernonfrance2974]

[@Summerland357]

Carl Lewis is the only Olympic athlete who stands out in my memory when I first arrived in Canada as a child

[@joekendras]

LOL he, Christie, Smith were all doped to the gills. Ben was just the one they chose to make an example of. And trust me I am no Ben Johnson fan, but I am not blind to reality. Victor Conte put it best, nobody who made the semis of any sprint event didn't dope back then. For the record I believe Usian Bolt dopes too and I don't care since so do all his competitors (for instance his 4 biggest career rivals- Gatlin, Gay, Powell, Blake all failed multiple doping tests) and he dominated them all over both 100 and 200 for so long like nobody in history. Atleast he isn't a hypocrite about it either, calling out any of his rivals who failed drug tests, while being a massive doper themselves sitting on their emperor with no clothes high horse (nudge nudge Carl Lewis).

[@thelog86]

I never cared for Carl Lewis. He was doping also then told on Ben Johnson, Carl was a crybaby, he was fake and a Tom. And I'm an American

[@salvadorealiberto]

Charlie Jones on the call. Amazing. Best announcer of that era.

[@BDQ1975]

I've remember watching this race live on TV that Friday night in September, 1988. I had video taped this race and could always quote his call, word for word.

[@salvadorealiberto]

@@BDQ1975 That's excellent.

[@Tehui1974]

Meanwhile, Flo Jo is still credited with winning a gold medal and holding the world records in the 100m from that same 1988 Olympics. Even a blind man could see that she was juiced to the gills.

[@vernonfrance2974]

[@michaelmurray6351]

To be fair, antidoping in 1988 is not the same as in 2024. Without going into a lot of details, in 1988 only 2 types of doping were clear and that was anabolic steroids for speed and power events and blood doping/epo for endurance events. If the IOC busted every athlete who tested positive for banned substances other than steroids and epo, I estimate that over 50 percent of the Olympic athletes would have been sent home. Most stimulants at that time were added to the ban list in 1988 only a couple months before the Olympics Games. At that time, stimulants were everywhere, in supplements and many over-the-counter medicines. In 1988, Carl and several other USA athletes tested positive at the U.S. Olympic Trials, but stated their stimulant usage was inadvertent. It is a fair debate whether Carl knowingly took stimulants; however, 2 important things to know are, Carl was tested at the Olympics and did not compete with stimulants in his system at the 1988 Olympics. In terms of performance enhancing, stimulants are a world of difference from anabolic steroids usage. And in the case of Ben Johnson, testing was so crude back then that if he had stopped doping a week before the games, he probably would not have been caught, but he was literally doping the day before his race. - Not saying Carl is completely innocent but the Ben Johnson comparison is not fair.

[@HamishGarland]

Johnson did stop taking steriods before the games, he wasn't taking the substance he tested positive for, and it was in a form that is broken down inside the body in hours. He was taking steriods, but he was also stitched up.

[@hellokittyjp9323]

This comment should be pinned.

[@Paul-vf2wl]

@@HamishGarland Yup he had unmetabolized steroids in his urine sample. It was clear grounds for a dismissal but the IOC found a work around and said that his endocrine profile showed evidence of long term steroid use. After the games were over an American official leaked the information that over 70% of athletes tested had similar endocrine profiles.

[@mozzer920]

Carl Lewis , in my opinion is the greatest Track and Field athlete ever BUT Ben Johnson beat him on a level playing field that day- I don’t believe Carl is being honest at all and there were many positive tests to prove that. Nobody can dispute his greatness - easily the best Long Jumper the world has ever seen- if he was competing right now in his prime, he would never be beaten.

[@sportbikejesus]

Fact: what was in Ben’s blood wasn’t in Carl’s blood. You can fail a drug test for many reasons (OTC and prescription meds have substances that are banned). Carl was positive for a cough medication. Was he faking his respiratory illness in the pursuit of an edge? You’re free to believe yes. Was the edge from the cough meds as effective as Ben’s doping program? Not even close.

[@marvaff6878]

HE'S GOT SOME NERVE!!!

[@Wooknut]

Come on now Carl was clean. Ben Johnson and half the Canadian team was found doping ... Had to give back their medals in that Olympics

[@ajparr5585]

Sh#t reporting . Carl and all the rest were dirty.

[@qbtc]

The highest level of the stimulants Lewis recorded was 6 ppm, which was regarded as a positive test in 1988 but is now regarded as negative test. The acceptable level has been raised to ten parts per million for ephedrine and twenty-five parts per million for other substances. According to the IOC rules at the time, positive tests with levels lower than 10 ppm were cause of further investigation but not immediate ban. Neal Benowitz, a professor of medicine at UC San Francisco who is an expert on ephedrine and other stimulants, agreed in 2003 that "These [levels] are what you'd see from someone taking cold or allergy medicines and are unlikely to have any effect on performance."

[@igloozoo3771]

Lets remember that in 88, there was no out of competition drug testing.

[@1archengdes111]

I wanted to talk about how great of an athlete he was and how we all rooted for him so many years etc...but all I can say is how come after so many decades he still dont have one wrinkle and looks so young still !!!!!! Wasn't Carl also doped?

[@brution2000]

6 of the 8 guys in that race were on PEDs

[@Ghostmanriding]

Good grief!

[@ypmm53]

Ben did not want to shake his hand because Carl had either pissed him off for something or said something bad about him before the race. Nonetheless, that was an amazing race.

[@keendeesjarlais3636]

things have changed since then guys are faster... everyone uses

[@alanocher6740]

This reporter is either playing ignorant or doing his best to patronize Lewis. Either way, ridiculous.

[@jbull7126]

he is going to go to the grave proclaiming his innocence in a sport where they were all dirty if Lewis was not dirty Johnson would not have had to do it

[@Zakariah1971]

How is the silver medal a letdown?

[@kivdonbull9398]

One dirty runner got caught and the other got the win by default

[@TonyGiles-q8e]

Lewis has now acknowledged that he failed three tests during the 1988 US Olympic trials, which under international rules at the time should have prevented him from competing in the Seoul games two months later.

[@mattstyles1244]

All this talk about Lewis being dirty too. To put this in perspective..he took a banned stimulant which is not a steroid. Also..the level of stimulant he took is legal today. So I would say he's not nearly as guilty as Ben Johnson.

[@ab2abblank607]

Your post is the only one worth reading regarding the issue.

[@zumaanandrade3961]

Carl injected himself with steroids I saw him do it. Questions are free i will answer.

[@gmaxsfoodfitness3035]

We can ignore that one incident but Carl likely took steroids in college like many athletes did in the 70's and 80's. He went into college a great, and scrawny, natural long jumper and above average sprinter, to a muscular elite sprinter in one season. Charlie Francis was basically friends with him before Ben became his rival, and Charlie witnessed his transformation where he put on maybe 20 pounds of visible muscle and turned into one of the US's top sprinters in less than a year. That was 1979, 1980, so before Ben tried any steroids in late 1981. Natural bodybuilders can manage 10 pounds of muscle growth, maybe a little more, in their first year or 2 of serious consistent training but 20 pounds of muscle in less than a year is not something natural athletes can achieve. So many athletes were on drugs during that time period that at one meet in the US, the organizers decided to ignore all the failed drug tests because the names of the athletes were so big and so many tested that positive that fans would stop watching the sport if they were banned. After Ben and Angela Issajenko told the truth about their drug use, the IOC and Canada's athletic governing body stated that any athlete that came forward would be penalized for admitting steroid use. This essentially told everyone else to keep lying and then they'd be OK. East Germany, the Soviet Union, and the U.S. were given the authority to govern and test their athletes as they pleased and would have to go out of their way to sacrifice their own athletes in order for anyone to be caught and suspended. None of those countries were doing that and protected their athletes at all costs and their national testing was used solely so they knew which athletes were clean enough to go to competition and test negative. Athletes who tested positive by their country would simply claim injury and sit out the competition. These big federations were heavily funded and highly organized and would do anything to produce the top athletes in the world, including administering anabolic steroids. 5mg of Dianabol per day was the recommended dosage and drug of choice from the late 60's until the early 80's. Winstrol came later but Dianabol was the first commercial anabolic steroid on the market, developed by a doctor specifically for American athletes in the late 1950's. Germany was the first to isolate testosterone, back in 1935, and give it to their athletes to win the 1936 Berlin Olympics (which they did, they only lost a few events mainly to Jesse Owens).

[@markfoga]

Did you say he took it? Then what's your point? He TOOK IT

[@mattstyles1244]

@@markfoga Mt Point is that it wasn't much of an advantage over the those who didn't. Steroids are a huge advantage.

[@guerino8945]

Carl Lewis also used drugs. An absolute hypocrite!

[@markhunter9524]

What a joke. Carl Lewis was part of a doping machine operating on a scale far larger than anything the Canadians ever could have imagined. Not making excuses for anyone, Ben was spiking for years, but there is credible evidence that his sample was tampered with. The type of substance detected - Stanozolol - is not something Johnson's team ever used. Like, never. And the scale of its presence in the test was absurd. Both teams had been doping for years. Both teams knew their runners would be tested at the Olympics and that their systems would need to be completely clear of any trace of steroids - something that takes weeks. That the likely gold medal winner would jack-up with a steroid he had never taken in the past, at that level and so close to the games, is absurd. Almost everyone close to the case at the time (on both sides) is, in retrospect, amazed that more scrutiny was not given to the unlikeliness of the situation. But those were different times. Johnson's team knew he had been doping and so they were in a strange position to start denying anything. But they knew that what he got busted for was false. It's all so sad. Both great runners. One (Ben) had his reputation destroyed and , to some extent, his life ruined. And the other (Carl) got the win but for reasons known only to him, seems to have just faded into some kind of odd, invisible exile.

[@727skydivers]

Carl Lewis, the GOAT in Track & Field! People throw dirt at him. That's bad. He was a perfect specimen. Look at his body, his proportions. He had a body optimized for 100m/200m/long jump. No question about it. PEDs? Who knows. Look at women competing today at 100m/200m. They are more muscular than Carl Lewis at his peak! Who do you think is dirty?

[@23ofSeptember]

Lewis sounds like Lance Armstrong talking about "growing the sport" by catching drug cheats.

[@craigbrown5359]

Outstanding perspective!!!