HUGE LAWSUIT! These Cops Had NO IDEA What They Were Doing!

[@AuditTheAudit]

If you would like to help Mr. Vollmar or support his activism visit www.directactioneverywhere.com/donate or righttorescue.com/

[@davidpippin3460]

Nope. I will never support those domestic terrorists.

[@stopthemadness398]

do you know that 99% of what you say backs up the police????

[@mattjohnson8038]

Thank you, yes please support these folks.

[@CurtisV0llmar]

Thanks John! I'm so happy you wanted to do a video about my situation! Thanks for taking the time to highlight these officers and for including a bit about the trial!

[@Donald6309]

I wonder if you'd ever do/have ever done a video containing updates on cases like these.

[@TaiidanOnslaught]

The amount of people who think you can’t film them without their permission in public is staggering.

[@frocat5163]

I imagine it has something to do with the laws regarding recording private conversations. Some states require all parties in a conversation to consent to having the conversation recorded, while some only require one of the parties to consent. There are also the laws that require consent to use someone's image in media used for profit. It's understandable that many people would believe the same consent rules apply to any video or image captures, regardless of location or intended use.

[@thetruthchannel4634]

Yet the fact that the NSA records them at all times )Public or Private) is okay bec😮they are “authorized”, don’t film me in public constitutionally but record me in private unconstitutionally unconstitutionally. Should be deported

[@JohnSmith-mh1mp]

@@frocat5163 You cannot have a private conversation on a public sidewalk.

[@yb2112]

To be fair most of people don't know how many states in the USA and think there are 6 moon orbiting earth...so😂

[@frocat5163]

@@JohnSmith-mh1mp Did I say you could? Did I even imply that? No. No I didn't. What I _actually_ posted was a thought on why people may believe they can refuse consent for being recorded in public. That's it.

[@FirstThenLast13]

When an officer tells people "you're not wanted in our community" under the color of law that is an INCREDIBLY dangerous red flag for free citizens.

[@architeuthis3476]

I'm perfectly comfortable telling police they aren't wanted in the community

[@Dead_Again1313]

@@architeuthis3476 😆

[@exile220ify]

@@architeuthis3476 Amen!

[@Ericxnugz]

ill tell them tf off why y'all pussys one day in jail is amazing when you can sue and buy a nice lake house

[@konradschwoerke2977]

@@architeuthis3476 So stop wasting time here and go tell them!

[@juliaforgot1690]

When the police think "because i said so" is a lawful order we need to be alarmed. End qualified immunity and hold them personally accountable.

[@SaraphDarklaw]

Hold the entire department accountable. Mass punishment on cops. Make them police each other.

[@unfinishedsenten]

just copypaste this into each audit video and we'll upvote it until it's top comment on them all. Seriously, just end it and watch the problems slowly but surely fade away..

[@3232myke]

We need to be alarmed regardless these cops are trained by other cops jist like them , so God help us all

[@baddriversofthenorcalarea500]

To be fair, it’s way easier and quicker to say that then to go through and attempt to explain case law lol

[@MM-xc2bt]

Executed in front of their kids needs to be mandatory

[@ShhooterMcGavin]

This cop is literally working for that company. Saying things like “you’re not welcome here” and “you’re responsible for people losing their jobs”. And if cops are worried about the safety of the guy, arrest anyone who will harm him!

[@magnuskain278]

This is why police should be drawn from out side a city's population for boomer age people

[@Scallycowell]

Pigs are always tools of corporations. The money comes before anything else.

[@nickhelton3439]

These cops lol what a joke

[@13rokendreamer]

burning taxpayers money to protect their beloved (alleged) animal abusive company

[@Steve-Cro-Magnon-Man]

@@magnuskain278I don't understand your comment. Could you elaborate, please?

[@AkilanNarayanaswamy]

The cop didn't even try to hide the fact that he was going after him specifically for the content of his speech what a clown

[@FourthRoot]

Yeah, not only are they corrupt, they're stupid to boot. This should be a slam dunk case.

[@MetalHeadProductions]

@@fettel1988 what's a murder clinic?

[@56585656587]

I can’t believe these guys are willing to sacrifice their pension and other benefits over some flyers. Got to protect your brother in law.

[@gamingonwheels2502]

@@fettel1988 Pro-birthers don't deserve an opinion.

[@fettel1988]

@@MetalHeadProductions Planned "Right of Privacy"

[@danc8871]

This cop is literally arguing the point that just because a business supports a town it’s excused from any responsibility or illegal activity. This cop is a criminal accomplice.

[@sarowie]

funny thing is: how actually closed the pig farm? It is not a congress man or a judge that physically shutdown a company, so I wonder what part of the goverment would do such a thing and how that relates to the profession of this public official specifically.

[@peterwhitcomb8315]

Most police are criminal accomplices. That is why it is fun to watch episodes on this channel where an officer comes in and straightens out a corrupt cop. A lot more efficient than waiting on the courts. Case in point: ~2 weeks later and the court system hasn't put a temporary stop to the criminal activity of this Sheriff's Department. At this point, maybe the judicial branch/judge needs to be added into the legal process to be cleaned.

[@BillNepill]

Thats exactly why the police exists

[@USVET-yv6fd]

COMMUNISM ⁉️

[@stevenmichael558]

WELL, ISN'T LAW ENFORCEMENT JUST A BUSINESS AT THIS POINT . LOOK AT ALL THE PETTY CRIMES THEY ARREST PEOPLE FOR JUST TO PAY BAIL OR BOND OR FINES OR PROBATION . AND WRITING TRAFFIC TICKETS . AND DUI CHECK POINTS . ITS ALL FOR MONEY .

[@crowtrobotsvideochannel6930]

That first cop - unbelievable! He blames this guy for Smithfield Food's wrongdoing. And the other cops - thinks anything a cop says is a "lawful" order - shouldn't a "lawful order" have a LAW behind it??

[@TheVerendus]

He doesn't blame the guy for the wrongdoing, he blames the guy for any misfortune that comes to Smithfield's because the guy shone a light on the wrongdoing. Still absolutely unbelievable and somehow even worse. I've never seen an officer so candidly express exactly what he was doing, this is gonna be a fucking slam dunk case.

[@dwaynecollins4974]

Well the police department in this video seem to need officers so damn bad that they had to take a little old man with a beard and gave him a gun and no training at all as to what he could do or not do. But it's surprising how many police officers don't actually know the law that they're supposed to be enforcing or at least pretend like they don't know it

[@waterheaterservices]

@@dwaynecollins4974 Mall Cop looks more professional.

[@-HeyLyd-]

Yeah, I thought the same thing when cop said "lawful order." It goes to show that this cop doesn't think he's supposed to uphold actual codified laws but that what he says IS the law.

[@ingvildnilsen3883]

I mean his name is literally "Laws" so in his mind he's giving Lawful orders 🤷‍♀

[@supiiischokobaer]

Officer: "We want to protect you from being hurt by the people who don't like you and your group!" Also Officer: "HEY GUYS! This is one of the guys who shut down our beloved company!"

[@SpydersByte]

haha, good catch

[@Michigan001us]

Yes very good point.

[@WielkaStopa-qh1rr]

typical police tactic

[@PPISAFETY]

I was in law enforcement for 30 years, and taught constitutional law in two police academies. I was amazed at how many young recruits thought their badges entitled them to infringe 1st Amendment rights. In fact we set up a role play exercise that was quite similar to this actual situation. In our scenario we had members of a religious sect handing out leaflets on a public sidewalk. About half the class would end up arresting our role players because in their minds, any order they gave must be lawful. Others just stood there dithering and calling for a supervisor. The interactions were videotaped. Then we went back inside where we discussed the correct response. We saved the most egregious video examples, and brought in a local civil rights attorney who told the class in each case how much he would sue or settle for based on their actions. I think we got the point across.

[@jelica9475]

And 30 years later is it still not REQUIRED training or even a best practice.

[@Gauloises531]

@@jelica9475 Just hand out more guns (irony off)

[@Pelpe]

Please say you handed your work over to the new generation of lawful and respected men and women so the police can learn more and more? 🙏🏼🥺

[@marilynmccord4612]

Because they don't care

[@nfj81]

They should all be thought like this. Kudos to you sir.

[@l3igl2eaper]

That cop was giving a "lawful order to not film someone in public." What a disgrace to the badge.

[@ctakitimu]

How is it that me, a citizen of a country half way around the world, still knows you can film any officer in public and it's legal. But the cop who's supposed to know the law (like he has 1 job, to know and enforce the law), doesn't know?

[@JoshuaR83]

Not lawful at all

[@michaelallen2971]

I know right? That is totally weird to have a law on the books in Utah saying an officer can remove you from a public place when it totally violates the first amendment

[@eponymousIme]

Also a disgrace to whatever education system he passed through (either public or private) -- not to mention the police academy.

[@ryanholzinger534]

Oxymoron

[@frostxray2105]

Extremely scary that they literally have 0 idea what the law is and they are paid to enforce it

[@Notklausshawb]

Is not that. It’s easy to judge those people in those town as ignorant. But you have to realize in that town there is not many employers close to them so that’s their food that’s how they survive. I get the freedom of speech deal but these “activist” don’t care about the town folks and that’s disgusting

[@ilovetati91]

You may not like their words but it doesn’t matter. It’s legal. And furthermore, they were advocating for reform

[@chrisdraughn5941]

@@Notklausshawb The true cost of freedom is tolerating other people being free. You’re going to hear them say things you don’t like.

[@charleshall3973]

@@Notklausshawbyou totally miss the point of freedom of speech.

[@Notklausshawb]

@@charleshall3973 i get it but these type of “activist” are trying to destroy the way of living of these folks 🤷‍♂️

[@Inurendo88]

It's honestly refreshing to see police officers that are willing to admit that they work for corporate America, and not the people of the United States.

[@deanm9652]

All public servants in some way or another work for corporate America. America is a corporatocracy after all.

[@BenEthridge]

Smithfield agents

[@scotthewitt258]

"I'm gonna stand right here and tell people not to talk to you." Excellent use of the taxpayers' money there.

[@tuckeredout2887]

LOL

[@a.j.hellraiser8993]

It's not like anyone can say where the tax money goes

[@wholelottamiata6976]

“Protect and serve”

[@stevenmcclain6336]

@@wholelottamiata6976 unfortunately some of or many of these morons will require a part down the middle of their scalps. Did I mention that I'm a former highly trained military sniper and if the balloon goes up (shit hits the fan.) I'll be on point.

[@ernstbtmn]

"Let me get my camera on too?" That is part of the problem! It should have been on once you exited that squad car!!!

[@eponymousIme]

Also, he shouldn't be using his *personal* phone camera! Every police academy in this country should use this clip to demonstrate what bottom-of-the-barrel, ignorant, violative policing looks like.

[@robertshallington6225]

He was at a festival

[@ernstbtmn]

@@robertshallington6225 When he approached the guy, "he believed he was doing his job," right? So he should have turned it on. Don't make excuses for them not doing their job, correctly.

[@God_of_pain_2.0]

💀💀

[@God_of_pain_2.0]

@@eponymousIme truee

[@gw6667]

Ugh, police bullying a single protestor in the name "of the community" is petty and despicable

[@rjrehda5795]

Nobody was bullying anyone. The vegan needs to get a real job

[@ziberteck]

@@rjrehda5795 You don't have to agree with someone's point of view to acknowledge they have the right to advocate for it.

[@gw6667]

Cop didn't like what the guy had to say and used his "authority" to try to get him to leave. You're the guy that probably calls the school to complain about books in the library 😂

[@gerardmosselveld5533]

@@rjrehda5795 Loser

[@lindy_3820]

@@rjrehda5795 Lucky for us you aren't the judge of when our civil rights are valid.

[@POTSy-EDS-Zebra]

My dad was an accountant for a Smithfield plant for a moderately short period of time. He ended up quitting because of how crooked it was and the pressure he was receiving to “look the other way” at discrepancies and outright destroying proof of unsafe conditions/ changing numbers to better reflect a “more positive appearance for the company” from both facility admin/ company admin that oversaw the facility. Because of this, he quit as he did not want to be the scapegoat when the company inevitably blamed him for cooking the books as opposed to blaming themselves but he just told them he couldn’t do the drive anymore and left it at that. Within weeks of his quitting, the facility was shut down due to multiple fraudulent activities, including the ones he witnessed as well as others he didn’t and he missed having to go to court over it by days as the case only went back so far to show the crookedness happening even though he’d just quit a few weeks prior as there was so much evidence it wasn’t needed to go back farther than like 3 weeks. The main examples of what was happening that I remember him describing to me are how he would be at his desk and watch the food safety inspectors come into the facility to do their required inspection, hang out in the office the entire time and when he asked them if they would like him to escort him to the floor for the inspection, the guy said something like “that’s not necessary I just had to stay long enough to make it look like they actually inspected 😉” or how a man had cut his finger, bleeding into the machine that made hotdogs, and when the manager asked him to calculate how much it would cost them to properly shut down the line and clean as well as the cost of the lost product which had possibly come in contact with the blood/tissue, the manager said “oh that’s way too much no way in hell” then simply asked the employee “you have any diseases or anything that could get in those hotdogs?” and “do you need to get medical attention?” to which the employee said no to both so the manager made the call to just keep the line running and keep the incident quiet so he wouldn’t look bad for not meeting the production goals for the day (this was the final straw that caused him to leave) or how he would be asked to lie on paperwork stating how much water was added to hams prior to cooking so they could add POUNDS more water to the hams, which raised the sale cost since it’s per pound. Basically when you bought a ham from that facility, you could be paying for a ham that weighs anywhere from two to FIVE more pounds than the actual meat weight since they would inject up to FIVE TIMES the amount of water they were supposed to inject to ensure a moist ham with flavoring throughout.

[@yarnpower]

Yikes!

[@Yoshimitsu420]

Name of the Smithfield plant please? I would like to do some research on your claims I don't believe some of them but adding extra water in the meat come on now every abattoir in existence has been doing that for the past 100 years

[@kittyunderwood8918]

​@@Yoshimitsu420I don't think it was adding water that was the issue, it was lying about how much water they were adding

[@scottk6731]

He was an accountant, but how would he go and see anything else, would he count the animals or something. Two different jobs and two different buildings.

[@swicheroo1]

How does an accountant have knowledge about 'unsafe conditions'? How does book keeping entail covering this up?

[@GODzilla_FH]

"I'm worried for your safety" while the older officer literally tried to spur on the bystanders before. Despicable!

[@Ms_eLLE]

What a shaky excuse. I almost yelled "Bullshit!" That excuse was scraping the bottom of the barrel and laughable at best.

[@JensMorrison]

"Then go ahead, do your job, and protect me."

[@dbcooper69]

Cop: You took away people's jobs. Also cop: Violates is rights so he can sue their arses off, making the county/city lose even more money.

[@aquapendulum]

This cop showed his hands the moment he revealed he was doing this in the interest of a private food company.

[@frocat5163]

I agree the cop was an asshole, but I don't recall him saying anything at all about protecting Smithfield. He repeatedly mentioned the county's residents who worked for Smithfield. Agree with the activist's beliefs and opinions or not, if Smithfield shuts down that Beaver County facility, it will have a serious negative impact on _everyone_ in the county...including the activist. I'm not saying the activist(s) should or shouldn't do what they're doing; it's their right, and I will always support those rights. That doesn't mean the cop, despite his egregious abuse of his authority, was defending the company.

[@chris101ward]

Food is pretty important. So are jobs. This isn't lahlah land.

[@tag_of_frank]

@Republicansaretraitors Totheusa Right, but OP is misrepresenting the officers intentions here.

[@enjoiandrew4]

@@chris101ward yeah food is important so the health standards should be up to fucking code

[@thesaintnoodle]

@@frocat5163 are you completely unaware that these tactics are the same ones politicians use to justify why they and their corporate buddies need several mansions, private jets, yachts, other fancy luxury goods, and billions of dollars in cash and assets? they always twist it and say things to make it seem like they're in the interest of the people but really they're only interested in keeping the status quo and all the money and power going to themselves.

[@peterversionone]

That cop just showed what their job is. To protect companies, not citizens

[@omeyehead7436]

Why they were originally created

[@joshwarrey3728]

Cops are capitalist-oligarch-protectors

[@osgoodblack6464]

there is no difference a citizen is employed by the company and as such subject to policies and codes.

[@pedrodurty47]

@@omeyehead7436 that’s right on the money!!!! Public policy is govt policy and has nothing to do with the tax payers that pay their salaries

[@-redacted_by_youtube]

Supreme Court ruled cops are under no obligation to help citizens. Only enforce laws that they clearly have no clue of 90%of the time.

[@shamanmann001]

an officer saying 'I don't care about the intent.' is one of the scariest things a 'law enforcement officer' can say. Edit: The only reason why these law enforcement officers did anything is because they don't agree with the protest.

[@brushylake4606]

The officer in uniform saying "you don't want to talk to him" is the government chilling speech.

[@bradmyers7109]

Sounds like what left wing democrats in our government and in corporations are doing to speech they do not like from conservatives.

[@jeddafakee91]

If you find this officer on social media you bet your ass he is complaining about censorship because he got banned for a racist rant

[@matthewhedgepeth398]

Scrww that "activist".

[@peterfilipovic]

Textbook 1st amendment violation

[@snerdterguson]

I love how the cop leaves zero doubt that this was retaliation

[@cobracommander9138]

The younger cop was a little smarter and tried to turn it into a safety issue. But the irony is there was no safety issue but the older cop was antagonizing people with his counter protesting to create a safety issue.

[@chaoticignorant483]

Turning it into a "safety issue" almost seemed like a threat to me.

[@eponymousIme]

>>I love how the cop leaves zero doubt that this was retaliation

[@costakeith9048]

@First Last The DA is going to side with the cop in this instance, they can fight this issue in federal court but they will get zero support at the state or local level and if they so much as jaywalk in this town they can expect to DA to throw the book at them.

[@philam1973]

This cop has a person vengeance against the guy’s beliefs. He basically admitted to it. He doesn’t belong as a public “servant”.

[@Romany1111]

Wonder what he was paid by the company to do this. That would be an interesting investigation.

[@keleynal4424]

I disagree. The officer has every right to personally disagree with the politics of the other. He also can actively work to stop the group from advancing their agenda in the area. However, he can’t do those things while in uniform and/or on duty. He needs to keep his personal politics separate from his police work, but it’s not reasonable to say cops can’t have strong political opinions if they are public servants.

[@petershury7135]

@@keleynal4424aren’t police supposed to be politically neutral?

[@keleynal4424]

@@petershury7135 how could they be politically neutral when their entire job is enforcing the status quo? They work for the government so their job and actions are political in nature. However, they should only be enforcing the community’s policies, not their own agendas. They have to follow and enforce the law, even though they are allowed to disagree with it personally. It’s only the ones who can’t do that who shouldn’t be cops.

[@petershury7135]

@@keleynal4424 sorry bud I’m from the uk our police are supposed to be

[@rite2bcreative]

Telling an animal rights activist he needs to have more compassion was wild 😂

[@BPoweredLove]

These officers wants to enforce feelings, not enforce laws. He thinks he's an FEO. And they have no idea what country they're living in nor what this country was founded on.

[@juliebarnett9812]

The cops are the Fascist Stasi.

[@TheAileZX2]

This has been my ever growing concern as well. I have a big fear that many of us have to America Up and fight against post-invasion.

[@tombarnes8527]

I would be interested to know if any of the Officers shown in this video or cited in the Civil lawsuit had Wives or Family members who were employed by Smithfield Foods. Officer Woolsey constantly bringing up that citizens might be angry because of lost employment seems very much like he was talking about himself or a close friend 🤔🤔 If true, then it would seem Woolsey was acting based on his own personal beliefs / bias which would seem to indicate "Bad Faith Actions" were undertaken adding support to the civil case that a Pre-Existing Bias resulted in a possible conflict of interest that violated "under the color of law" guidelines pertaining to personal beliefs effecting performance in a discriminatory manner.

[@dwork9451]

Sounds like our goberment.

[@eriklarson9137]

@@tombarnes8527 Worst excuse ever.

[@TheFBATruth]

The Sgt first stated that residents were upset and don’t want him there because they all lost their jobs. He then goes on to tell everybody ‘this is the guy shutting it down’. If this isn’t an attempt to incite hate and violence I don’t know what is.

[@gnitsaf]

Just because the plant isn't closed doesn't mean they haven't laid off staff while they're investigating or making repairs or making decisions to keep the plant open. More and more just easier for companies to take their bushes to other countries and import the product to the US then grow it here.

[@richardp444]

They took err jobs!

[@JohnCooper-gm6mn]

@@gnitsaf I'm so sorry, how long has it been since you had your stroke? I hope you recover soon.

[@gnitsaf]

@@JohnCooper-gm6mn you're right companies never move production to other countries. Walmart doesn't import meat. I must be crazy. /s

[@JohnCooper-gm6mn]

@@gnitsaf It was more a comment on your inability to type a coherent sentence and the rambling, nonsensical nature of your argument, rather than the premise of corporate production relocation.

[@conniefitzgerald6678]

I love it when they try to emotionally manipulate the situation by telling you they're only worried about your safety....

[@seadubya1]

As they try to get the crowd to turn on the guy

[@jeffrowisdabest]

They wanted people to hurt him. It's pretty sickening.

[@missyann7588]

They don’t give a shit about we the people. And as for me, the feeling is mutual.

[@FreakOut-ep4yr]

All usa cops are insecure cowards

[@desireel247]

Yeah bad cop, good cop routine to shut down his rights to speech due to their personal feelings and ultimately leading to breaking laws themselves. These police need training.

[@OrbitalScreenTV]

You are a true public service, thank you for your service!

[@Primus54]

The only way to stop the “Feelings Police” from confusing their job as LEOs with “serving their community” is to strip them of qualified immunity and make them very public examples of how NOT to perform their duties. These two deputies should be promptly investigated and terminated. The old sergeant is probably at or close to retirement age anyway and is clearly a liability to the county’s taxpayers.

[@garrettromer8499]

Hell yeah let's bring back the old public tar and feathering for cops found guilty. That should improve some cop community relations real quick.

[@midsouthirish1680]

Exactly!

[@afcgeo882]

Qualified immunity doesn’t protect officers in cases like this, where they are blatantly violating constitutional rights. It only protects them from accidental liability.

[@catherinejaddii828]

Stop hiring democrats!

[@astramancer]

@@afcgeo882 That's a nice theory you got there, let's see how that pans out.

[@thawhiteazn]

I guess I didn’t realize that a company employing a lot of people in a specific area means they are protected from any crime or immoral action they might undertake. What a concept!

[@maddermax74]

it depends on the size of the company and how much bribe i mean donation money they give to you politicians

[@tag_of_frank]

Well... what immoral action did they undertake? All I know is the officer said the activists caused many people to lose their jobs. In a small town like that, that could very well mean losing their house. One can argue that if a few animals are mistreated, but billions of humans are fed for affordable prices... then that is the most moral system until someone figures out something better. So ruining the lives of middle class people in a small town is pretty bad in my opinion.

[@jupitercyclops6521]

One should consider most of those places employ mostly illegal migrants.. The cops weren't working for the citizens. But the owners

[@ffdaily5520]

Walmart management committed the crime of simple assault against me,yet I the customer was arrested;senseless.

[@tag_of_frank]

@@jupitercyclops6521 2:30 he states why he is upset. Unless you can read the officers mind and know he is lying, then you can't make the claim the officer was worried about the citizens.

[@May-or-May-not]

The way he pointed at him and started to shout at people passing by going "This is the guy who cost you your workplace". You could argue that he wanted to cause harm instead of protecting. What if some passerby got angry and attacked because of the words of the officer?

[@valentinius62]

The cop attempted to incite a riot. He should be charged with a crime.

[@ctakitimu]

Officer would have seen that as a victory, "See, I told you!"

[@eponymousIme]

@@ctakitimu Yeah. But the damage award would be astronomical! THAT clip would have made national news and Beaver County would have a major PR problem on its hands.

[@sydporter2873]

The police officer was inciting a riot.

[@miciso666]

sounded a lot like defamation. and assault...

[@RivasReviews]

Thank you Curtis Vollmer and DXE for the very necessary and brave work you are doing. You are right in the face of the most outrageous injustice, yet you persevere and continue to advocate and take action for the innocent victims whose suffering, law enforcement, the greedy vile Animal Ag industry and Governments are doing all they can to shamefully hide. You have support around the globe. Thank you again.

[@markg172]

I'm gonna eat bacon every day over this self righteous comment. The cops suck for sure but I don't have to like the other party either.

[@galamonkey]

This has to be the most blatant violation of the 1st amendment I’ve seen. Would love a follow up.

[@JonathanEvans73]

I'd just about upgrade their grade to a D for so perfectly documenting their illegall intent. I'd give em a C if they came out and said they were being directly financially influenced, heck those volunteers are probably on a certain companies payroll.

[@SamSitar]

fire and strip those police contractors as well.

[@shadow83blk]

And the 4th Amendment

[@allenslucher8555]

Seriously, I would LOVE a follow up!

[@Serai3]

@@JonathanEvans73 Oh, it's obvious they're being financially influenced. He said it straight out that "the company" doesn't like these people being around. Company towns are like that - even if they're being mistreated, everyone will rally around "the company" because they're terrified of losing their s****y jobs.

[@obreadasetavich4304]

To a cop, a "lawful order"is anything that pops into his stone-brain.

[@-HeyLyd-]

Yeah, that cop's use of "lawful order" shows that he thinks him just ordering something makes it lawful. Guess what, cop, there are actual laws, that have nothing to do with how you feel, that you're sworn to enforce.

[@flipnotrab]

His fast food orders have more authority.

[@anonymouse14]

@@flipnotrab yes, and no. They are not legally binding beyond a civil agreement. Giving him the wrong order is not a criminal offense, but I suspect he would treat it as such. “These are powdered donuts! I ordered glazed! You are under arrest.”

[@revolutioninprint8906]

And yet Republicans still back the blue. It's shameful

[@tombarnes8527]

I would be interested to know if any of the Officers shown in this video or cited in the Civil lawsuit had Wives or Family members who were employed by Smithfield Foods. Officer Woolsey constantly bringing up that citizens might be angry because of lost employment seems very much like he was talking about himself or a close friend 🤔🤔

[@CD-vb9fi]

The person "volunteering" to work for the government is also "volunteering" to be recorded while conducting activities as a "volunteer". People really are looney to a fault!

[@afcgeo882]

Don’t need to volunteer. If you are in public, you can be legally filmed. You have no reasonable expectation of privacy in a public place.

[@anthonygarcia49]

@@afcgeo882 and that's the truth.....

[@eponymousIme]

It was my understanding that, if you are in a *public* place, you can be recorded -- whether you like it or not. How else would security cameras be allowed to capture activity that occurs on public sidewalks and streets?

[@kfiscal01]

You can't trespass the eyes in public.

[@afcgeo882]

@@eponymousIme The concept has nothing to do with cameras. It has to do with an expectation of privacy. You’re in full view of people. That means you can’t expect any protection of privacy.

[@larryfisher5198]

Beaver County wound up paying 52k plus attorney fees to settle, with no admission of any wrongdoing.

[@freshpack8928]

These officers swore an oath to Smithfield meats and not the constitution. There is no way these cops should get qualified immunity .

[@reathelmort]

And the meat co. in question belongs to chinese communists unless I am mistaken, check and let me know.

[@rekcusdoo]

They aren't accused of a crime where qualified immunity would even matter.

[@JoshuaR83]

@@rekcusdoo first amendment rights violation

[@rekcusdoo]

@@JoshuaR83 - @"first amendment rights violation" - That isn't a crime. It's a civil action.

[@JoshuaR83]

@@rekcusdoo that's a federal felony

[@rebeccavelayas8868]

I sat in a courtroom where the judge said to the court that "the police don't know the law." I agree. This is why so many of them are being fired and sued.

[@frauditorsrscum9332]

No, they are not. More frauditor hogwash.

[@starcachehq]

Sergeant: "Don't talk to him, he's trying to shut down smithfield" So the cop is participating in activism while in uniform? Isn't that against regulations?

[@eponymousIme]

Yes. That was covered in the video. And not only that, but that dumbass cop was also denying the public THEIR 1st amendment rights to hear someone else's speech by telling people (while he was in uniform) not to listen to the guy handing out info. He was also blocking the sidewalk during this whole interaction -- which is supremely ironic, because that's the first rule of leafletting: don't block entrances or pathways!

[@adammcneice362]

That's what the Video answers dummy.🇬🇧🇮🇱🇬🇧

[@TheLOL9842]

@@adammcneice362 No need to be rude about it

[@starcachehq]

@@adammcneice362 Perhaps my comment was made before I got through that part? Kinda just emphasizes the point that both the video and I are making.

[@foehammer5047]

... why did you follow your comment with the union Jack and Israeli flags?

[@thedicehavespoken6234]

Beaver County eventually settled the lawsuit for $52k plus legal fees just in case anyone's curious.

[@bskee001]

When citizens unknowingly (or even knowingly break the law) we’re told, “Ignorance of the law is no excuse!”. Yet when the police, whose job it is to KNOW and enforce the law, don’t actually know the law or know it but still ignore it, they almost always get a pass, a slap on the wrist, or “more training”. Why can’t we citizens get the same luxuries and instead of getting arrested or fined thousands of dollars get some “more training” on the laws we were unaware of or even the ones we were aware of and ignored?! 🤔

[@enhancedphysique6452]

No no, there starting to hang those cops as we should. We are getting somewhere atleast unlike school shootings. Action taken :" let's all pray it doesn't happen again guys"

[@mattdad8429]

Ah, the good 'ol paid administrative leave.

[@charleskemp2037]

the general public is not aware of these abuses. they need to be educated.

[@queensharkeisha4479]

"Ignorance of the law is no excuse" as a baseline thought is bonkers. I understand we can't just allow people off the hook because then everyone claims ignorance, but... The idea that people who have real lives and jobs and stuff have time to sit around studying law is comical. There are some basic things we learn/pick up over time through socialization and that's what the vast majority of people operate on.

[@c.kainoabugado7935]

@@queensharkeisha4479 that you accept we don't know our rights and don't have time to know makes you the evidence of educated-ignorance, the phenomenon happening to multitudes. Thank your board of education.

[@KendallHall]

It's amazing how cops don't understand the limits of their authority even after decades on the job

[@michaelofcvan6579]

Your statement indicates that they have violated the rights of thousands of people over the decades. Very sad.

[@DieEineMieze]

It's exactly these decades, which give them false confidence. And let's be serious, many just go away after they say things like these and they are probably successful with it.

[@AboveAndBeyondTheCall33]

They have no desire or need to

[@afu8227]

The only reason they have a badge is because when they were no one they got bullied and now bully others!

[@SeekerLancer]

They know, they just don't care. They assume most people will fold under their threats.

[@spf50sunscreen80]

Why do police say "this is a lawful order" knowing full well they are on multiple cameras? Also knowing it was never even remotely a lawful order. It boggles the mind.

[@GeekOfAllness]

This guy sounds like he honestly believed it was a lawful order.

[@o3941]

Because they think anything they say constitutes a lawful order.

[@dennisbabb3493]

Because they are hoping that the citizen will tuck tail and cower under their perceived authority and badge.

[@---H_M]

Their mouth is a head of their brain

[@Tazytots]

It's just an attempted powerplay. There are cops out there who do get off on the legal authority or presence they have in public, in addition to the intimidation factor they have on minorities. That older police officer is clearly one of those people. It was being pretty transparent about public intimidation attempts. As we watch these videos that feed in to the outrage culture, let's not forget there are cops out there who do not do any of the beforementioned things.

[@JamesSmith-qe1mn]

Not a public servant acting to protect the interests of a private corporation because of its influence in the “community” SAY IT AINT SO 😱

[@Del-Canada]

The older cops, generally, have gotten away with this nonsense for so long they tend to forget people know more of their rights now and continue to violate rights.

[@A2Z1Two3]

The volunteer clown who says don’t film him whilst he is IN PUBLIC , should stop volunteering.

[@jeffepstein4138]

Anybody, volunteered or not can be filmed in public. And that's why they call it a public sidewalk. It's on public land.

[@portabull749]

What’s the last thing you volunteered for?

[@dirtyfacegeorge9938]

@@portabull749 what the fuck does that have to do with anything 🤡

[@springbrown9769]

And no one needs permission to take pictures or film in public. Idk how many times males have taken a pic of me against my will and there is NOTHING I can do about it. It's ok for guys to do it to women but no ok for vice versa. I hate men.

[@j-davis7290]

Volunteering in uniform too, which unless he's on shift, is a misuse of uniform

[@liamlynch2115]

Wow using the badge to retaliate on behalf of a company. He can film anyone from a public sidewalk. That older cop should be suspended at a minimum. Very inappropriate.

[@ghoulinthegraveyard399]

Chinese company.

[@1harrismccarty]

That is the whole point of police

[@IlllIIIIllIIlIIlIlIlllI]

Do you think the ‘company’ put money into that pig’s pocket directly and said “psst hey go crack the skulls of protesters and ensure we keep making money” No actually I’m pretty sure the 2 pigs didn’t escape from the pig factory but they consciously and subconsciously know that their job isn’t to protect the constitution and the rights ensured to us Americans but instead to protect the wealthy and corporations from us peasants even breathing too close to them or risking their profit margin

[@costakeith9048]

It's reasonable for a state to want to protect industry and employment within the state, this is just the wrong way to go about it. What Utah needs to do is follow the lead of other states that have made trespass on agricultural land with the intent to engage in activism or political activity or to protect the rights of animals a class 1 felony so they can throw these people in prison for 20 years, not for filming and talking in public, but for felony trespass.

[@1harrismccarty]

@@costakeith9048 TASTY BOOTS FOR U

[@AvgwarhawkVideo]

Sheriffs in the old west used to say, "Get out of town if you know whats good for you" . This is not the old west.

[@harmonyfox]

If that place got shut down then it’s on that company, not on the people who exposed them.

[@GhettoMazzo]

so how will their family eat then

[@harmonyfox]

@@GhettoMazzo what? Lol

[@chriswright9096]

@@GhettoMazzo Well, keeping livestock in humane conditions requires a workforce just like keeping them in inhumane conditions does. So, I'm not sure how requiring basic standards of animal welfare causes job losses. If the company in this case had to shut down because it was not compliant then, yes, it is on the company, not the people who exposed them.

[@alwinrovers5712]

@@GhettoMazzo The same way they always do: Pick up some food with whatever utensils are lying around and put it in their mouths. Don't forgot to chew 20 times and then swallow.

[@FreakOut-ep4yr]

​@@GhettoMazzo you never learned how to eat?

[@billkaldem5099]

I’m just a old man that’s never been involved in anything like this but, even I know these cops screwed up big time.

[@HardlyaDavidson]

You generally only get treated like this when you hold your ground. It’s basically like an argument in Walmart except you have to listen to the other person and can’t walk away or else they’ll be able to tackle you and kidnap you with no repercussions

[@rivermcratt3683]

The police are there to enact the will of the people, they live there in that community, half the town works for Smithfield factory, the town doesn't want them there, the people of the community do not want those scumbag protesters protesting their livelihood. The people of Beaver Utah have recently voted to make it legal to run over the protesters if they block the entrance to the factory, the people want the scumbags dead.

[@tombarnes8527]

I would be interested to know if any of the Officers shown in this video or cited in the Civil lawsuit had Wives or Family members who were employed by Smithfield Foods. Officer Woolsey constantly bringing up that citizens might be angry because of lost employment seems very much like he was talking about himself or a close friend 🤔🤔

[@rivermcratt3683]

@@tombarnes8527 70% of Beaver Utah works there, it's a small town with a big factory. Police are there to represent the people, the people including those cops don't want those protesters fucking with their business. The people of Beaver Utah have recently voted to make it legal to run over the protesters if they block the entrance to the factory. There's a video on KZbin of a protester lady getting run over and killed by one of the pig trucks. This is one of those situations where I don't give a fuck what the cops did, those protesters are scum and they need to be stopped. I have no sympathy for those pieces of shit.

[@commentaccount7880]

Most of us haven't been involved in any of this bill it's educational entertainment

[@durhamdf]

You gotta love it. The first cop starts telling people as they walk by that these are the guys trying to shut down the major town employer trying to rally them to get angry. The second cop tries to argue that they are telling them to leave because they are concerned for these men’s safety?! It’s incredible that people who are so completely ignorant as to the rights of citizens are given the tremendous responsibility of enforcing the laws and protecting those rights!

[@darreng745]

Welcome to the point where you get people who only uphold the law as they see fit and will lie and use their qualified immunity to pervert the course of justice, you can say it ain't so but judging by the video's that have been uploaded a lot of the LEO's employed through out the various PD's in the US are not fit to wear a uniform hold a badge and do their job.

[@shannonmcclain2036]

While putting his life in intermittent danger.

[@grablefamilyvideos8831]

I would love to watch all of this in court and see how the defense plays this.

[@kfiscal01]

Inciting a riot.

[@7sArts]

@@grablefamilyvideos8831 . I have a feeling that the judges in this town allow this kind of behavior by Jack booted thugs, particularly when it helps fill their coffers. It probably will need to go to appeals court to be handled fairly, then again, it’s Utah.

[@arcadiafree]

WOW HE WAS FOUND GUILTY AND FINED 850 DOLLARS. The judge charged him with guilty of criminal trespass and disorderly conduct. Vollmar plans to appeal.

[@ianmcclellan7695]

I’m only 4 minutes in and I’m already counting the breaches of the Constitution by these so-called ‘police officers’. 😂

[@gregoryashton]

Filming in portrait has to be one

[@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777]

They can barely string together a coherent sentence.

[@waterheaterservices]

@@SPINNINGMYWHEELS777 Senator Biden joins the chat

[@tylert3709]

This is what happens when you hire people for the sake of hiring to get the bodies out there never works out lol

[@johnnydrummer7739]

When are we going to get more training for these dumbies? 💀😂

[@brettstarks1846]

Frankly, so-called “disorderly conduct” laws need to be significantly curtailed and narrowly tailored.

[@jamesa.2880]

A disorderly charge is usually one the officers go to when they can't find a regular charge and want to write a ticket.

[@kerryedavis]

The actual laws are already pretty narrowly tailored, the cops just don't know/don't care.

[@afcgeo882]

Why? This law was specific enough to obviously not apply to this situation.

[@afcgeo882]

@@jamesa.2880 And in those cases those charges are almost always dismissed.

[@valentinius62]

To cops, just holding a camera is "disorderly conduct" if it pisses off people.

[@-redacted_by_youtube]

Wether you agree or disagree with what the guy is doing he still has the right to ask anyone questions on a public sidewalk. He hasn't broken any laws. Cops need to get off their high horse and start doing what they were hired to do. Enforce the law as its written and not violate people's rights. I know I'm asking too much.

[@IlllIIIIllIIlIIlIlIlllI]

Brother don’t you know upholding the constitution isn’t their job even though that’s what they claim ? Their job is to ensure the wealthy are safe and profits keep flowing anything besides that is PR to have people think they work for the people

[@NJNOTMJ]

I completely disagree with the protester and think he is hurting a community, but 100% he has the right to stand on a sidewalk talk about his message and hand out literature. If the old cop was a normal citizen and told this guy what for I would have loved it but in an official capacity the police shouldn't voice personal opinions or infringe on the rights of people they disagree with.

[@TFYS223]

@@NJNOTMJ what's the point to eating meat anyways

[@NJNOTMJ]

@@TFYS223 other than the taste? Vitamins, minerals, the health of gut bacteria, and because humans are omnivores.

[@afcgeo882]

@@NJNOTMJ Meat has NO positive effect on guy bacteria, just so you know.

[@rauldominguezgonzalez6497]

I discovered this channel recently and I can't get enough of these video. There's something poetic about this levels of idiocy 😂

[@rialdaosmanovic2142]

I mean I'm embarrassed to admit it, but the dumber the officers act, the more I enjoy the videos. For some reason them getting publicly ridiculed is both satisfying and makes me feel terrible for liking it.

[@youngorochi]

Corrupt companies and corrupt business actions being backed by government agencies and government agents is one of the main issues in the world RN

[@HiroProtag]

How people don't realize why faith in our institutions is at an all time low, here it is. Instead of being the counterparty to actions outside public interest they are enforcers for it.

[@flipnotrab]

Yet “big business” doesn’t have any power? 🙄 Yeah, like insurance and pharmaceutical companies haven’t ruled the roost for decades🤮

[@wadestanton]

The corruption in Beaver's city government is on full display at 15:46. Please, notice the condition of the brand new public sidewalk. That sidewalk is no accident.

[@IlllIIIIllIIlIIlIlIlllI]

The reason why there can never be a second French Revolution is because the wealthy are protected by the highly militarized fascist pigs with APCs/tanks and if we were to even try the collective skulls of all human/animal rights activists would be pulverized by domestic drones and warrantless wide net surveillance so instead of the 2nd FR we blind ourselves with chicken tendies, SUVs, and Keeping Up With the Kardashians while we down bottle after bottle of Vicodin and Prozac and then wonder why nothing’s changing

[@finnthecheese2846]

"I'm here to protect you" he says, after storming in and accusing him of trying to destroy the community

[@jedcooper443]

he was an agitator and should have been given the boot!!

[@eponymousIme]

Yeah, I loved that lame argument -- stating that people could become so agitated in their disagreement as to pose a threat of harm to the guy holding leaflets. My response would have been, "Well, if that's the case, and you suspect people of being likely to break the law and cause harm, then you should be directing your attention to THEM instead of to me, since I'm just peacefully handing out leaflets as is my First Amendment right."

[@DouglasWalrath]

"companies that do terrible things should be allowed to keep doing those things because they employ people who need jobs" is just a terrible argument in general

[@morbidmanmusic]

All companies do things that most, if they knew would,be unhappy over...

[@tag_of_frank]

Feeding a hundred million per day at affordable prices is not a terrible thing though.

[@DouglasWalrath]

@@tag_of_frank yes you can do a bad thing while doing a good thing, who'da thunk?

[@CodMaplekiller]

@@tag_of_frank Doing it while abusing animals is though. You can't seriously be here arguing for "the ends justify the means". You don't have to abuse animals for food --> its a terrible thing to do. You'r argument is shit - one could also say "how could nazis be terrible, giving jobs to thousands of germans isn't a terrible thing" while ignoring that the jobs included building concentration camps and gas chambers.

[@merlbartley7243]

No they don't but these vegan clowns can't take on themselves to break into a farm and steal two pigs. How the hell don't you get it!

[@johndoe-hv3qj]

That cop obviously doesn't understand that in Public he can be filmed whether he likes it or not.

[@jt2861]

HOW……..how the heck do they make it this far in their career having such little understanding of the law? That’s like hiring a janitor to play the role of a dentist. What is wrong with these people?? They need to be fired. And whoever hired these armed thugs needs to be fired as well.

[@mikeneeley1284]

Oh they understand the law. They simply think because they have a badge and a gun they can do as they please. Abolish qualified immunity.

[@Warden033]

@@mikeneeley1284 Nah, they really don't. You're giving these fools way too much credit.

[@Mikevdog]

Because they get away with it and the bootlickers back them up.

[@mountainquake]

If you had ever been to Beaver, Utah, you would understand. Beaver makes Mayberry look sophisticated, and these Bozo cops make Barney Fife look like Elliot Ness.

[@birddog7492]

@@mikeneeley1284 I agree it's time to limit or abolish Qualified immunity. We need professional law enforcement not Thugs or Combat troops.

[@jonesfactor9]

These officers just brought a lawsuit onto their community that will be paid by the tax payers, not the officers violating civil rights. Way to go, officer. Nothing like causing stress on your community, right officer?

[@michaelpatanella]

Oh please. Ain't shit gonna ever happen. NONE of these cops EVER FACE DISCIPLINE!

[@panzerlite8108]

@@michaelpatanella That isn't true.

[@JaimeWarlock]

This is why civil damages need to come out of their pensions.

[@GIANTSSWAGGER]

Normally nothing would happen but this is a clear violation and if the person filming goes through with the lawsuit as stated above the city will have to use taxpayer dollars to pay for the suit and judgement which then most likely results in discipline for these officers. I'd be SHOCKED if the volunteer keeps his badge but I've seen more egregious things happen

[@aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa1569]

That'd be me paying that shit

[@see_more_media]

I love how those officers think it’s a lawful order

[@stephengrigg5988]

Well he asked him "politely" lol

[@lmWombo]

you know that the bar is beyond low when you’re just happy the cops didn’t physical assault him

[@sethfroman7044]

This is what happens when a HUGE corporation like Smithfield, is in a small community and employ a good chunk of the town. They think they own everything and the police work for the company.

[@reathelmort]

If I'm not mistaken, Smithfield Farms belongs to China.

[@toka100]

In a way they do. The company pays county and city taxes. The taxes pay the cops. So if an idiot is trying to remove your source of income wouldn’t you be a little pissed off at him.

[@sethfroman7044]

@@toka100 if I had to guess, the county/city give this corporation huge tax incentives/breaks to operate there and employ people. There are many examples of this, the most recent one was Amazon. Cities all over the country submitting bids and waiving taxes so Amazon comes to their city. Corporations aren’t people. Cops are mad at the wrong person. Smithfield god exposed to doing the wrong thing, why blame the people who exposed it and not the company that’s doing the wrong thing?

[@SurelyIjest206]

@@reathelmort Basically yeah. Smithfield is owned by a large multi national company in Hong Kong. Until recently Hong Kong had a lot of autonomy and wasn't fully controlled by the Chinese Communist Party. I think things have changed and the CCP now has more control. It is my understanding that the CCP is a partial owner of all "private" businesses in China. I don't know if that also includes Hong Kong.

[@toka100]

@@sethfroman7044 so what did Smithfield do? I admit I didn’t watch the entire video to see if more was explained at the end. I do have my guesses at what it is. Mostly having to do with the California regulation on pork confinement. Which is stupid if you have even been around something other then a pot belly pig. For one. The sow can and will kill and eat the piglets if allowed room. Two. You get the possessive sow. That will take you hand off if the piglet squeals too much when you are picking it up. I’m sure the guy that stole the piglet would have sued if he lost a hand in a California spec containment. No I don’t work for Smithfield. I actually work for a rival beef plant. I can tell you that the “all natural” beef cattle are very sickly looking compared to regularly vaccinated and controlled beef. I saw one with a giant growth on its back. Ever seen the plane with the giant disk on top. That’s what it reminded me of. Since it was a “natural” it was left alone. They just puncture it after the steer was knocked and sent it down the rail. Sometimes it’s better not knowing where things come from.

[@bangerairsoft4086]

It blows my mind the amount of people that don't understand there is no expectation of privacy in public spaces.

[@ryanjones7681]

What blows my mind is the amount of officers trying to enforce it as law

[@mr.wizeguy8995]

Nothing blows my mind when it happen in US average IQ for sure is way below 100.

[@bangerairsoft4086]

@@ryanjones7681, yeah, it's even worse when the people enforcing the laws don't know them

[@bangerairsoft4086]

@@mr.wizeguy8995, they can't educate us, because a smart population is harder to control.

[@replynotificationsdisabled]

@@mr.wizeguy8995 America is like a kid trying to learn minesweeper... It may never learn

[@rars0n]

The best part is, by acting like buffoons and trying to silence the guy, now they've put a huge spotlight on his cause. I guess they've never heard of the Streisand Effect.

[@alexsdemkin]

Well this isn't the Streisand effect but the rest is spot on

[@matthewrogers9572]

@@alexsdemkin The Streisand effect is a phenomenon that occurs when an attempt to hide, remove, or censor information has the unintended consequence of increasing awareness of that information, often via the Internet

[@matthewrogers9572]

@@alexsdemkin well you're not correct but the rest is spot on

[@josiah3043]

@@alexsdemkin lol what

[@jeepcreepit5404]

Maybe it's just me but maybe that "buffoon" was trying in his own misguided way, trying to save this guy's life? His "company" is already hated and all it takes are a couple of idiots to jump him while the police either ignore it or don't intervene. Yes, just like the AntQueffa crowd in portland who were harassing people and the police did nothing to stop it. Yeah yeah.. the cops were being aholes, wrong, etc.. but they could have just left the area and let nature take its course of dealing with a troll.

[@ae_sko88]

The worst part is, he was found guilty of trespassing and disorderly conduct by the court. This is a huge injustice

[@MultiFlash4]

source?

[@pensairadar]

@@MultiFlash4 You can search on google for "Vollmar vs Beaver County" and you will find numerous articles. Basically they stated that the park was property of the church and therefore not public. You'll also find out he settled the case against the cops for 52k.

[@cutzcutz28]

The county ended up paying $52K and legal fees.

[@NeverTalkToCops1]

"Causing a disturbance in the community." "He's asking you nicely." In Utah, EVERYONE is guilty of disorderly conduct. That law is trash, utter tyrannical bilge.

[@keinlieb3818]

@Randall Slaughter religious status has nothing to do with it. Have no idea why so much divisiveness. Gotta keep a hold of that victim status I guess.

[@JohnBoy973]

Nah, people harassing people just to make money are trash.

[@ClockworkWyrm]

@@keinlieb3818 Maybe not written into the law but the Mormon community will absolutely close ranks to protect their own, lighter sentences, more lenient interactions with officers, etc.

[@fritznien]

The cops here are completely and massively out of line. What they are doing is wrong, ill founded, rude, and if it's legal it should not be. However... You knew that was coming, right? The protestor is protesting in front of the front gate of a festival dedicated to the thing he is protesting. It's why he chose that spot. This very channel has often pointed out that SCOTUS has numerous times upheld time--place-and-manner restrictions on speech. Such restrictions have frequently been enforced by SCOTUS. For example, anti-abortion protestors with their abortion-on-a-plate pictures have been prohibited from camping outside abortion clinics. The cops are completely in the right to move him along. They went about it totally incorrectly, letting their emotions run things instead of sticking to the law. It makes one wonder what else they let their emotions run. But moving this ant away from the picnic is valid and reasonable. For example, placing him 100 yards down the sidewalk would be reasonable.

[@jonathanmarguet4374]

@@keinlieb3818 You haven't been to Utah if you think that Mormons don't enjoy a significantly more lenient legal system

[@renatatostada3318]

I'm not even 3 minutes in and this is one of the most disgusting things I've ever witnessed. We have a cop abusing his station to bully someone off of public property because of his own personal opinion and feelings. I'll admit I'm unfamiliar with how the law views handing out fliers on a sidewalk, but its a truly dystopian society indeed that would punish an individual for doing that

[@MilkBags69]

Then you must be new to the internet

[@robertkirkwood6613]

I just said the same thing. not even 2 and a half min. and this stupid cop talking about his feelings people losing their jobs. that's not his problem, but it's stupid cops like him that will falsify an arrest and cost you your job!

[@timothywilliams7264]

Right I'm furiouse. Wish I was there id be all over them telling them hiw stupud an wrong they are. I really hope he takes them to court. They gonna look dumb.

[@antonyduhamel1166]

I firmly believe this is caused by the "Warrior Culture" imbued to most of these police departments. These officers, who see themselves as the guardians of social order, come to believe that, since they are GUARDIANS of social order, they must also necessarily be ARBITERS of social order. That anything that makes them uncomfortable must necessarily be evil, and must therefore be expunged, violently if necessary. THAT is the true dystopia, if I'm right.

[@stupidass3791]

@Bruce Wayne, haha, true on being new to the net. Or just dramatic.

[@OTOss8]

Man, those cops look so rattled and triggered. They've never had anyone stand up to them before and they don't know how to react. It's just pure adrenaline and fear.

[@thomastolbert6184]

O.T. Oss.they was ,getting off,on the harrasment of the public(the reason they was working without pay)!

[@tysonrinker5958]

Yeah i agree with you its a shame people want to treat cops like that . They didn't deserve that one bit

[@docdildonica7515]

That’s Utah for ya.

[@MilfLover690]

@@tysonrinker5958 yea they did

[@raymisuto9872]

My guess is the older cop probably had a family member to lose their jobs as that company downsize. Ultimately though it was the place of the people who were losing their jobs, if that was the true story, to come deal with the guy rather than the police. The police first and foremost should stay out of politics, even in the event of violence breaking out between political factions.

[@youngfacade4197]

1. recording in a public place and anything within public view is 100% legal even if it isn't a public servant. 2. Literal Government censorship (even if what he is doing isn't approved by his department he still represents them, and as a government entity his actions are their actions)

[@stevekiss616]

As a retired LEO and administrator, I can tell you the actions of these deputies was just wrong on all accounts. Someone forgot to inform them that their duties included enforcing and obeying the law and upholding and defending the Constitution. They are not there to act as personal security force and they are supposed to behave objectively.

[@thagrandpubah]

But I am sure you are okay with all black people being shot, strangled, and tortured, and no matter how or for what.

[@waterheaterservices]

Thank you

[@CheeseBeer90]

That’s Utah police in a nutshell

[@Dowlphin]

The roots of the nation were brushed under the carpet and suppression mechanism put in place and buiit on, so naturally eventually those would exhaust themselves and then everything reverts to where it all started - robber barons and their police force, founded as enforcers against dissenters.

[@StreetofCrocodiles]

See you are under the assumption they aren't told they are their to protect corporate interests, and that they will be shielded from consequences as long as they are.

[@O.Sanchez]

Just wanted to say, thank you for all you do and for giving us a break down of the law for us !!

[@antonyduhamel1166]

I was kind of confused about the "breaking the law part" until I remembered to read the rest of the comment. Sometimes, one word can be VERY necessary.

[@O.Sanchez]

@@antonyduhamel1166 haha sorry didn’t realize how bad I typed that down!! I edited 😅

[@jeffepstein4138]

Alas, "The law is an ass".

[@PDGX]

ATA is the best, most comprehensive channel on police interactions. Great job explaining the legal precedence, and noting when there’s gray areas. Also has videos highlighting good (A+, A) police conduct

[@ginger7344]

Jeffery Epstein is alive! I knew it!

[@jamesgiroux7619]

The old "don't you know your not wanted in this community?" clause and rights exclusion and the usual lawful unlawful order...

[@ws90ninety]

Animal rights people are crazy lunatics.

[@scruffythejanitor1969]

He might as well have said, “Let me explain my exact bias before I violate your rights.”

[@scottvines4093]

Whatchu doin' in my town, boy!?!?

[@genemaurillo4162]

@@scottvines4093 exactly what I was thinking. Beaver, UT is also very conservative.

[@crisleroi299]

It's Utah, I'm sure that wasn't his first time saying that.

[@beaupierrebondurant5651]

No expectations of privacy in public.

[@ThenVersusNow_]

What an absolute embarrassment for this department. Zero comprehension of what they can/can't do, not even a basic understanding of laws and rights. Terrifying.

[@sarowie]

I wonder how closed down the pig farm, when local law enforcement thinks that employment is of higher public interest then hygiene and law enforcement.

[@jamesjennings3726]

I'm surprised they let gramps still work.

[@vmlinuxz]

They are working for the plant not the law.

[@hazy604]

It truly is. They don’t allow this guy to talk to people on a PUBLIC sidewalk but when missionaries go on private property to talk to people it’s okay, lol

[@hezekiahbrainstemwhite6273]

That police department is an embarrassment and disgrace but what do you expect from despicable people.

[@procrastinator9]

This cop really seems to have a broad and deep misunderstanding of the law. The plant's business is in jeopardy because they broke the law, not because this guy was handing out brochures on a street corner. The man handing out brochures is not breaking any laws but cops violating the Constitution is illegal. This cop seems to be from upsidedown world.

[@Kraken4201]

Some places have no economy. They know the employer is breaking the law . But if they get fined and put out of business everyone loses their jobs and the town collapses . Look up the creation of the asbestos laws in North America if you want to see a true lot awful and twisted mess

[@harrynac6017]

That sums it up quite efficiently.

[@solarnaut]

a LOT seems "upsidedown" of late ! 😖 'morning joe' quotes Albert Einstein, after fleeing nazi germany and later encountering 'mericah's mccarthyism, he feared it was "happening again," but later concludes democracy... eventually... is like a self-righting ship. Here's Hoping ! B-)

[@C.A.R.1967]

@@solarnaut Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep deciding what's for dinner...

[@deanpeterson1006]

this cop seems to be on the companies bribe list!

[@Memanruler]

As someone who grew up in near this community with a Dad who bounced in and out of the pig barns they used to run down here, the conditions where absolutely horrid like, I understand agriculture work, my Grandpa did Hay for the other husbandry farms around the place like the Beaver Milk Farms, but the pig barns were mass filth, shit on all the pigs and they simply ate and shit and had like 1-2cm within each animal packed like 35-40 per pen. Mass industrial processing that was completely inhumane, every single pig was screaming at the top of it's lungs until it fell asleep, died from it's guts exploding from eating too much, or just disease breakouts. There must be a better, more sustainable form of job that can be made then those fucking awful pig farms. To just mindless blame any attempt to expose how horrible the conditions are as simply trying to destroy the community fundamentally misunderstands how much better everyone in the community deserves in terms of livelihood and job quality and those pig barns were not it.

[@jfast8256]

Well what is the solution that is both sustainable and practical? Just because "morally" there SHOULD be a better way, it doesn't mean "logically" that there IS a better way. Sadly, god isn't real so the world doesn't have a sky daddy to provide for us. Sadly utopias don't exist so we have to pick the lesser of evils rather than assume everything is good and just. This means you have to be on one of 3 sides. 1. Environmentalists side, screw the human race, be willing to kill half of us off to "fix" all the problems we cause. 2. Practical side, realize that conditions for our food sources to feed the sheer amount of humans we have isn't going to pretty. 3. Fantasy side, condemn the factory farms, but also condemn the environmentalists because you realize their end goal is the extinction of the human race and hope god fixes things for us. 4. Pretend these conditions don't exist (most people) I may not like the communist party of China as no auditor could possibly love that authoritarian police state, but the Chinese people are innocent of the actions of their government. If we removed all factory pig farms in the world, I promise you there would be mass starvation in at least in China. There factory farms are even worse than what we have in America as they are the number 1 eaters of pork in the world.

[@wvguy7238]

These cops are unknowingly serving their corporate overlords, kind of how people think because they support cops, the cops will support them, til they find out otherwise.

[@some1namedno1]

@@jfast8256 Saying environmentalists don't care about the human race simply makes you look like an absolute imbecile and tool. Also, you say you have to be on one of three sides, then you provide a fourth and say most people are on it. Nevermind, I take it back. There is plenty here to imply how ignorant you are.

[@jwspeakman2961]

@@jfast8256the amount of food we grow just to feed live stock is enough to feed humans 7 times over

[@jfast8256]

@@jwspeakman2961 Without nutrient deficiencies which will lead to disease without a multi-trillion dollar supplement market as the entire world of omnivores shifts over to a diet away from nutrients we require because evolution made us this way?

[@scottk6731]

The Beaver County sheriff and deputies ordered them to stop and to leave, the activists later said in a federal civil rights lawsuit - and the county is now settling that case by paying them $52,000 plus their attorney fees. Aug 15, 2023

[@Person01234]

"I don't need a permit to talk to people on a public sidewalk" It's amazing that this needs to be stated in an apparently democratic country in 2022.

[@Drillbitayler]

Small technicality, and I truly don't mean any offense! But we are actually a Constitutional Republic, not a Democracy. In a Democracy, all it would take is 50.1% of the populace to vote that, for instance, "hate speech" is punishable as a real crime (like in Canada and parts of Europe). But in a Constitutional Republic in which that founding Constitution explicitly acknowledges that We the People are endowed by our Creator the RIGHT to free speech, then this conduct becomes all the more demagogic and terrifying.

[@Person01234]

@@Drillbitayler That's not what democracy means.

[@andrewdsadfsdafvxcvfsafznw2]

As Aristotle wisely said, Democracy is cringe.

[@alonelychocolatebar1954]

@@Drillbitayler so you're one of those guys.

[@temperededge]

​@@Drillbitayler You're describing a direct democracy, which is one form of democratic government, a constitutional republic is another form of democratic government.

[@LordNemoTGH]

The cop basically admitted that he was there to act as an enforcement arm for a a corporation employing local citizens and that he believed it was reason enough to limit this mans free speech.

[@razzy4159]

Dirty cops. The lot of them

[@ParkerRoams]

3:35 "We're giving you a lawful order to not do that" 100% pure nonsense. It's sad, and scary how many cops things that telling someone something means its automatically a lawful order.

[@letsgetbrandon]

You can record others in public. However when I private citizen says stop failure to do so constitutes disturbing the peace. So when your camera gets slapped or you get the shit slapped out you that person is in their right.

[@letsgetbrandon]

335 is not nonsense. Recording a private person is a crime when that private person objects. There for ordering a criminal to stop commiting a crime is legal. Duh. The easiest thing for the officers to do would ask the private person would you like to press charges. Person "yes officer I would" hey asz hole your under arrest for disturbing the peace. Turn around click click.

[@Jane-yg3vz]

@@letsgetbrandon That only applies in a private place. Out on the street there's no expectation of privacy. This is just a case of a public servant not wanting to be held accountable for his bad behaviour.

[@ParkerRoams]

@@letsgetbrandon ​yeahhhhhh you obviously don't know the law. Try again!

[@Tom-hz9oc]

@@letsgetbrandon Really? You’re really gonna go with that? I’m sure that there are dozens of auditors that will gladly meet you anytime anywhere to prove you wrong. Any cops that you conspire with to stifle their first amendment right to film in public can split the judgement you’re going to pay!

[@michellesetaro]

CONGRATULATIONS ON WINNING THE LAWSUIT, ACTIVITISTS!!

[@logantcooper6]

It kills me when people say "you can't film me" as if they aren't in the most public of places.

[@shawnmurray9964]

And are probably being taped by dozens of security cameras as they complain to this guy.

[@SvendleBerries]

Even if it werent a public place, these Police officers are public servants. While on the clock, anybody can film them anywhere, at any time. I hate being told that I dont have rights when it comes to things Im being _forced_ to pay for.

[@GeekOfAllness]

@@SvendleBerries The guy making the claim wasn't a police officer. He was a volunteer who I believe was working for the local event staff. Still, if cops can fly drones over my back yard and I don't have an expectation of privacy there, this guy doesn't get it at a very public event he volunteered to be at.

[@NorseHorse]

"Trust me, I wasn't recording you on purpose for the specific reason that your face could make a train take a dirt road."

[@dailyfilmfix469]

As a former law enforcement officer I can say that while I may not like what you say, I fully support your right to say it!

[@eponymousIme]

What you said is exactly, in a nutshell, what America is *supposed* to be about. Sad to say, we're slipping away from it into a love and acceptance of authoritarianism.

[@leftylou6070]

What department did you work for?

[@jeremy072579]

There's no "law" in North America. You've all lied to your citizen/slaves over there. Contract makes the law over there. Contract is law and law is contract. Also, all of the states in North America are private for profit corporations doing business as government. All of them have registered Dun & Bradstreet Numbers. So, all of the so called "laws" are nothing more than corporate by-laws. The lies and deception need to stop.

[@bb9679]

You don't like what he says because it exposes crooks with badges who don't even remember the oath they take nor do they study the constitution. They would avoid lawsuits if the deception of protect and serve was corrected to we violate your rights and take your tax dollars to keep our corporate business funded. Cops don't protect us they look for ways to arrest and convict people for the sake of tax revenue and protecting political criminals with badges

[@dailyfilmfix469]

@@bb9679 I believe that I clearly stated "may not like."🙂

[@mightymouse9305]

Cop's ignorance of the law should be grounds for termination.

[@DRIFT_CORE]

Hard considering they don't require a law degree or anything

[@Chocolouf]

@@DRIFT_CORE Yet they are supposed to enforce said laws, so...

[@blacksheep7910]

@@DRIFT_CORE "laW dEGREe" 🤡

[@subyouwont]

@@DRIFT_CORE they have to pass classes- the level of competence depends on training funds. Fund the police.

[@DRIFT_CORE]

@@blacksheep7910 what

[@Fabermain]

This is the kind of cop who watches rambo first blood and cheers for the police.

[@JakeandOwen]

This is some first blood stuff. "We don't want your kind in our community" how shameful 😔

[@freydaym4514]

LOL true true

[@paul-ld9vh]

I only wish that we would witness the same outcome as the movie. Spoiler alert: Rambo kills everyone

[@Peakfreud]

😂😅😅😂

[@Peakfreud]

In Beaver county You can't make this stuff up.

[@imitationcrabmeat6999]

Yeah those white guys being mean to that other white guy really screams that

[@eiland369]

They have no idea of Constitutional Rights whatsoever, they should’ve requested a supervisor.

[@omeyehead7436]

The majority

[@user82938]

He was already talking to a Sargent who should have known better.

[@dbmcwilliams205]

In a place like this the old cop probably IS the supervisor…

[@crr311sux5]

@@dbmcwilliams205 he had the sergeant patch on his vest+ 3 chevrons so yeah he was a supervisor

[@7heRedBaron]

A supervisor who knows less about lawful conduct than they do.

[@seshquatch]

it never ceases to amaze me how little so many police know about the law.

[@kimborampage]

They know. They are lying

[@crelos3549]

​@@kimborampageYou give them to much credit, most of them don't even have the brain power to remember something, even less to fabricate a lie

[@mikeveis6393]

90% of all cops in this country don't know the law. In the UK, 95% of all cops know the law.

[@danfarrington7727]

Incredibly, in April of ‘23, a judge ruled against Mr Vollmar.

[@sulynn72]

I'm sure the judge was getting monetary rewards😢

[@gregb2]

I really am starting to think that police should have insurance coverage and be able to be sued like doctors for negligence.

[@Chadok89]

I don't think he will be protected by qualified immunity on that one.

[@shawndavis4015]

@@Chadok89 if they carried liability insurance and had to pay for it themselves and you could sue them INDIVIDUALLY on top of the department, OH HELL YEA, THEYD WATCH WHAT THEY DO AND HOW THEY HANDLE THE PUBLIC AND ‘EVERY’ SITUATION….THATS CALLED ACCOUNTABILITY.

[@thomashajicek2747]

If cops were required to have insurance and be personally liable for monetary damages awarded, this channel would have to shut down overnight. Instead they protect themselves, protected by the unions, and protected by the law itself to abuse their power and held to a LOWER standard than the general public for actually knowing the law and engaging in illegal activity.

[@sstrongman1667]

100%

[@AndrewJackson456]

All insurance is a scam

[@johnnash5118]

If the public has no defense for “ignorance of the law,” doesn’t that also apply to law enforcement; indeed, they should be held to the highest standards and training to the Constitution first, before all other training.

[@ddstanfield9259]

Sadly, To answer the question NO The Supreme Court has said that police working in a “reasonable misunderstanding” of the law Heien vs North Carolina

[@johnnash5118]

@@ddstanfield9259 “Reasonable misunderstanding” must have its limits beyond the intent of this SCOTUS ruling.

[@Vohlfied]

Police are neither required nor expected to know the laws they have sworn to uphold. Law Enforcement Officers simply need to "believe that a law may have been broken" which explains why cops think "I am the law".

[@TacPhoenix]

But... but mah... BUT MAH QUALIFIED IMMUNITY

[@CodeeXD]

You would think so but you'd be wrong

[@davidwashburn6388]

I would love if ATA would do an update type episode every once in awhile to find out the outcome of some of these cases. Would be something good to put on the second channel since he doesn't really post much over there

[@muddobber6863]

I agree but I'm not going to hold my breath. This is a react channel so it all depends on whether the original source provides an update and that's usually rare.

[@Liberty4Ever]

ATA posts updates when available, but these court cases are stonewalled by the Just Us System. You can sue city hall, but they don't make it easy. It's often 2-3 years before these cases are litigated or settled out of court, so the updates often happen after the original case is largely forgotten. The posted updates often have a link to the original, and a summary, to remind viewers of the original case.

[@DarthLeopard]

Good idea. Honestly, this could be main channel content if he were to extend the videos to the specific case and how it went instead of just a quick update.

[@deejayyy1681]

It's rough to find updates on these things that happen recently because it takes years of litigation for anything actually happen

[@victoriasfire]

very good idea

[@Tenchigumi]

About a month after the animal rights activists settled their civil rights lawsuit for $52,000 (four months after the incident at the park), Beaver County officials amended their original "disorderly conduct" charges to include criminal trespassing in retaliation. They (obviously) claim that it wasn't retaliation, but rather that they simply forgot to add it originally due to a "clerical error." They also cited a bunch of supposed "callers" who claimed that Vollmar was harassing them, including a "very small child." Unfortunately, a Utah Judge ultimately convicted Curtis Vollmar with both disorderly conduct and criminal trespassing. Mr. Vollmar plans to appeal.

[@madhusudhanreddy4932]

damn.

[@kbc1883]

“When someone wants you to stop exercising your rights because it ‘rubs salt in their community’s wounds’, it is a lawful order that you must stop your legal activity in order to prioritize their feelings.” 🤣. Oh dear, those officers are so incredibly uneducated, poorly trained, and lack any reasonable discernment or reasoning, not to mention unethical and tyrannical.

[@Ttalos]

Educated? Lol These cops barely graduated high school. That’s why they qualify to be cops.

[@tbbigrocker149]

you forgot, "stupid", This must be a graduating class from the Barney Fife Academy of Law Enforcement Excellence

[@SamSitar]

...those police contractors are so...

[@Mercurio-Morat-Goes-Bughunting]

Actually, that was the point at which the Police Officer's job had been done. He'd given the guy a time and place safety warning. Had he kept his opinion out of it, he could have done this in the first 10 seconds: Just walk up and tell the guy that he's aggravating an aggrieved community and that he doesn't qualify for police protection. Done. Finished. Lunch time. Everything else that came out of his mouth made it very clear that he wasn't a cop and had stolen the uniform.

[@tbbigrocker149]

@@Mercurio-Morat-Goes-Bughunting No, they just GIVE uniforms(clown suits) to any fool, the dumber the better

[@JohnLloydScharf]

This officer needs to lose his job for engaging in politics while on duty. That is a federal crime.

[@EazyTheRecon]

Seems like he have sticks with the company

[@dsprg]

@@EazyTheRecon their job security stems from that company's employee's movements and the charges that they generate...and the obvious taxdollars

[@Golfjoshd]

@@dsprg exactly, the cops just want the people to have plenty of fine/fees money they can suck out of them like the vampires they are.

[@anagramconfirmed1717]

Can you cite your claim, please?

[@Nowhy]

Is that really a federal crime?

[@torlekjpec5708]

A new meaning for "disturbance to the community" now means "you told the truth and we do not like the truth"

[@brianheath72]

Better explanation for DXE is we broke into someone else's business and now want the charges for Breaking and Entering to go away, as well as, theft