Austin Osman Spare - Sigil Magick in Theory and Practice - The Origins of Chaos Magick

Sigil and Chaos Magic have proven decisive in the history of contemporary magickal theory and practice, both of which were powerfully influenced by the works of the artist, writer and occultist Austin Osman Spare. This episode explores the philosophical foundations of Spare's magical theory and practice, especially in his development of the concepts of Kia, Zos and how Sigils can be planted deep within the psyche to unlock what Spare took to be vast metaphysical powers. ‪@drangelapuca‬ follows up this exploration by exploring Spare's impact on contemporary esoteric practices, Chaos Magick and shamanism. Make sure to check out her episode as well!
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I would love if you read and reviewed "Dogme et Rituel de la Haute Magie" or "The Doctrine and Ritual of High Magic" by Éliphas Lévi. One of the second books I read when I started getting into the occult through my first reading of "The Kybalion" and all other things related to Hermetics and Mental Alchemy. Truly an inspiring and great read. I would argue that Éliphas Lévi's contribution to the occult and magick is not properly appreciated.

[@jmp01a24]

@@David-jq7wr Aleister Crowley felt a connection with Eliphas Levi, so much he (jokingly iirc) said that he was one of his previous incarnations. He had put up some astro charts and crunched them numerical values of names, dates, etc.

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Thank you for the heartfelt introduction, my friend! I loved collaborating with you and I look forward to the next one! Hopefully, we'll get to meet in person as well. 😊

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[@andythedishwasher1117]

I recently used a technique inspired by Spare's methods to create a musical chord sequence generator app which transforms a string of words (an intention to be sigilized) into a set of four chords which can then be used as an object of meditation or "activation" by other means... My method for activating such sigils is usually to sit at a piano, toodle around on the chosen four chords until I settle on a pleasant riff, and then repeat that riff mindlessly for an hour or so, zoning out on it as hard as possible to the point that I'm barely awake at the piano. When I reach a point of exhaustion, I go rest and try to forget about the whole affair as much as possible. This act of introducing the data repeatedly at a point of exhaustion is one of the ways you can create and take advantage of that "stack overflow" you mentioned. Forgetting about it keeps your brain from retroactively "correcting" the changes you made on a subconscious level to conform with your previous patterns and protocols which the magick aimed to alter. You're kind of exploiting back doors in your own psychological immune system. Pretty dangerous stuff in the wrong hands.

[@thenowchurch6419]

That is, if it actually works. Any evidence?

[@placer7412]

Ok you babbling mad man. Seek help.

[@andythedishwasher1117]

@@thenowchurch6419 Well, the way I understand the theory dictates that the technique is primarily useful for breaking or forming habits on various levels of one's mental/emotional architecture. I can say that I've had success refocusing my nervous system onto tasks that were previously much more opaque to my understanding and abilities. For example, this method has been very helpful in my recent shift from an attempted career in music to a more stable career in computer science. I target my intentions mostly toward new abilities I want to cultivate, and it seems to be helpful. Can't say much beyond that. Probably not much different than other affirmation-based motivational techniques, but at least this one has an interesting theoretical basis that my overcomplicated brain can appreciate as potentially valid and therefore utilize.

[@andythedishwasher1117]

@@placer7412 I've certainly explored that possibility, but I think I've found a stable track now. Thanks for your concern.

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@@andythedishwasher1117 ignore the rude people, your idea sounded interesting.

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Nietzsche slide: "not pictured, the void, on the left" so good

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Outstanding! More scholarly Chaos Magic-related videos are incredibly appreciated.

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[@chrischibnall593]

As someone who has attempted to go very deeply into Spare's philosophy myself, I must say this presentation represents a very brave and impressive attempt at understanding and summarising it: bravo, Dr. Sledge!

[@chompythebeast]

This idea of encoding (or "discovering") powerful sigils and then tapping into their potency by storing them deep within the mind reminds me a lot of the Caryll Runes found in Bloodborne, a game heavily steeped in Gothic and Lovecraftian occultism. The idea of "vacuity" of mind being a purer form of consciousness which leaves one more open to communion with greater cosmic powers is also _explicitly_ present in the game. Very interesting―I knew little about Spare, so this was quite enlightening. Thank you, as always!

[@LlamaOccident]

God I love Bloodborne. Figures that only Dr. Sledge can help us make sense of the convoluted lore.

[@Shin_Lona]

I haven't played Bloodborne, so I'm not actually familiar with these runes, but "Caryll" may be a variation of Carroll. This being a reference to Peter J Carroll, one of the leading figures in the development of Chaos magic. Carroll has been heavily influenced by Spare - particularly in regards to sigil theory, so this connection is highly plausible. If you're interested in the topic, Carroll has written a number of books. The most prominent being Liber Null / Psychonaut and Liber Kaos. Both should be widely available, probably around $15 or so for each. Not too long of a read, modern approach and very practical. I would consider them absolutely essentially to anyone studying magic, regardless of what tradition you are focusing on.

[@veraha4706]

@@Shin_Lona played Bloodborne and read Carroll’s work and I have never thought about this connection. Sweet!

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You must be somewhat saddist if you are referencing bloodborne. That is a truly difficult path. HAHHAHAHAH.... that darn game kicked my butt for years!!

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@@veraha4706 I think the majority of bloodborne (and some dark souls) is directly ripped from the manga Berserk, and then mixed with European naturalism.

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While citing sources has its value it can get in the way. AOS would never have existed if he only relied on things other people wrote. Imagine how sterile art would be if painters only could paint things that everyone could agree existed in the material world.

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[@arete7884]

@@dr.faustus922 Real magick is not hollywood movie magick, many great occultists didnt die rich

[@nathancarr5437]

@@arete7884 but they they thought they were going to 😉

[@taddybear4244]

AOS created some of my favourite art of all time. "Ascension of the Ego from Ecstasy to Ecstasy" is probably the most beautiful piece of art I've ever seen.

[@ronalda3488]

A.O. Spare was a very enigmatic person, thanks for shedding more light into his precepts. I understood more from you than reading his texts a dozen times over!

[@uglyweirdo1389]

Chaos Magic is so incredibly fun.

[@brooklyn7722]

Indeed, it's fun and fascinating. I've tried it twice with great results, but I don't do it anymore.

[@iam-retarded-but]

Uumm? Tips?

[@uglyweirdo1389]

@@iam-retarded-but nothing is real and everything is possible. Watch the other video to this collab and then her other videos. That's a start.

[@iam-retarded-but]

@@uglyweirdo1389 thank you so much

[@uglyweirdo1389]

@@iam-retarded-but Grant Morrison is also a pretty fun resource. Good luck and you're very welcome!

[@ocyruspythia1658]

"Not pictured: the void, on left" i love you dude

[@NYisconstipated]

Genesis P-Orridge introduced me to Austin Osman Spare. He owned a few of his paintings and he told stories of the painting coming to life on the days that the paintings were made

[@jmp01a24]

OMG you made a program of my favourite artist. He was magical and lived like an old wizard among the poor and downthrodden.

[@mpm1125]

This is self hypnosis on a grand scale.

[@disguisery]

That was the best “buried treasure” yet. Holy moly.

[@dcat1730]

Thanks for the wonderful university lecture content I can enjoy from home with a cup of coffee ☕ Cheers!

[@EthanMallory]

I’ve been doing automatic drawings for about two decades out of inspiration from Austin Osman Spare. Psyched to see you covering him!

[@surrealdealpick3]

No words can express the gratitude I have for your channel.

[@PriestMelmoth]

Wow! This is an excellent look at Austin Osman Spare techniques in Sigil Magic in theory and practice. Thank you.

[@Youmama187]

I love Spare. I get many don't but there is so much there in how I do my work.

[@Its-Lulu]

Happy you and Angela are covering AOS 🥰❤

[@literallyreal8938]

Gotta love how genuine that appreciation was at the end of the video!

[@BRAVENEWORDERFILMS]

I really enjoy your collaborations with Dr. Angela. Thank you. May God bless you and yours🙏

[@TheEsotericaChannel]

Me too!

[@goblin3359]

I have been fascinated by Sigil and chaos magick for a while now, so I am absolutely delighted that you have done a deep dive into Spare's work and legacy. Brilliant video, as always, Dr. Sledge. Thank you.

[@wobfet]

loved this episode so much! extremely informative. Spare has always been an occultist I’ve wanted to delve deeper into but would just end up getting completely lost, feeling like I could never even scratch the surface. Excited to try to find the book recommended!

[@middleburyastrology]

Fascinating. There seems to be this need to create complex thought structures in order to prove a meta mechanism. Like we must invent such a clear vision of multiplicities and symbols in the outer world in order to get access to the front door of the inner world. Getting around doubt with a glorious technical manual and its obsessive studying to earn admission. There is something so human about this. Loved this episode!

[@theosophicalwatermelons8181]

You used the word 'multiplicity.' I like you.

[@PseudoMystic]

One of the books I consider a great treasure of mine to own is Lost Envoy, Spare's tarot that despite being made in 1906 didn't see the light until 2013 is fittingly to me the most modern and innovate deck I've ever seen.

[@thomasnihil4878]

Have you read about the crowdfunding first print of his Tarot a while ago?

[@Messedupshoes]

Thank you for filling a gap for me. I recently watched "the witch of kings cross". When it was over, I had a want for a good documentary on ol Spare.

[@NachtvorBaelZeburst]

Thank you, very much! I've waited for this presentation!

[@1734-Jason]

Keep up the good work from Melbourne Australia

[@robertbradley8309]

Fantastic video on AOS!! You break down his occult philosophy where it can be understood!! Thanks again!!

[@babymoon56]

I first watched your channel hoping to learn something and I have thank you but it's your sense of humor that keeps me coming back. I wish I was as quick.

[@lotusheart625]

Excellent episode (as always!). As a regular user of sigil magic, I never cared to learn much about the founder himself, and found this to be enlightening.

[@billgezella]

Saved!!! Looking very forward to this episode later tonight when I have the time to dig in! ❤

[@hehunches]

(4:44) I laughed at the succinctness in the eye movements, hilarious. Watching this after watching Dr. Puca's presentation, I thank you, Dr. Sledge.

[@falkel]

Not that it matters a jot, and perhaps there are global variants, but in his case, Spare rhymes with air, mare, care rather than rhyming with star, bar, car. Excellent video regardless.

[@big-baby-buddha]

That was my understanding too. tbh, each of the many times his name was uttered i shuttered. Why!?

[@davidwarwickanderson6604]

Thanking You Dr Sledge - I Created My First Sigil 2 Days Ago! My Kind Regards To Your Friend and Colleague Dr Puca! She Recommended You and Hence Forth - Speared Me Into You! Thanks Again ✨️ David 🌟 namaste 🙏

[@charlieboone1298]

Great video, Doc. The stack overflow analogy is a good one. I've heard modern practicioners use computing nomenclature in magickal contexts a few times actually.

[@lukasrobinson4077]

Great video! Thank you very much!

[@thewizardofawes8194]

Thanks, Dr. Sledge: very clear and educational video about Austin O. Spares ideas.

[@butterfacemcgillicutty]

You are 10000% correct regarding the difficulty of his written works. What I did was read his works multiple times, taking a fresh set of notes each time. ALSO you should view his art, not just a quick glance. Look at his art, spend time looking at his art works. His visual and written works are similar expressions of the same thing.

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I love this channel. Thank you.

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Hi! I am so glad I found this channel. Oh, lucky day! 😊

[@xaviox]

Esoteric shade honey! Love the little nods to the gurls. A truly enlightened teacher 😎✨💕

[@arete7884]

Spare statements regarding hopelessness are very true ,had most profound mystical experiences when going deeper into them and keep coming back to that point where living in 'ego rat race' paradigm for future accumulation or attainment whether spiritual or material feels like being stuck in a maze and the need to go to a higher paradigm and live from there is quite present but ego mechanics keep preventing that

[@arete7884]

@Pete Testube its all coming to conclusion soon,divine decree

[@Vroomerz]

He’s not wrong about Crowley. Everyone, eventually, out grows Crowley.

[@visionplant]

Ah, finally doing vids on more modern occult stuff. I love ancient stuff, too, tho!

[@leviaruach]

The regression method espoused by Spare reminds me of the excellent 1980 movie Altered States, Where Willaim Hurt uses Sensory deprivation tanks and hallucinogenic drugs and ends up regressing further and further to the most primal state of his being. Highly recommend that movie if anyone here hasn't seen it and gets the chance to.

[@notme9816]

I watched that movie in the early 90s. My brother and me were on a roll with films starring William Hurt.

[@F3z07]

What a surprise! I am entirely delighted that you've chosen to cover much more recent work in the occult! Thank you as always, doctor!

[@evans808274mc9la]

Looking forward to a thelemic episode in due time. 93's

[@TheEsotericaChannel]

At some point, that episode would be a minefield :)

[@evans808274mc9la]

@@TheEsotericaChannel just a bit.... Would probably excite the oto no end with every supposed reincarnation of Crowley arguing all over lashtal

[@sonder152]

@@evans808274mc9la there is no reincarnation of Crowley other than that in Thelema (like other traditions involving nondualism/monism) all things that have been, are and will be are incarnations of God. Also the actual formula of La-ShT-Al is directly involved, 0=2, as I'm sure you'd know. (although I know you were talking about the internet forum and not the theological formula)

[@evans808274mc9la]

@@sonder152 yes, the forum :-) a great place wind up the dogmatic

[@synthzz9178]

For those who missed it, Baker's beautiful book about Spare will be available again on June 23rd - also in the next months from Strange Attracror press there will be the third reprint of Keenan's England's Hidden Reverse, my all-time fav music book about Coil, Nurse With Wound and C93 and also a collection of Coil'interview called Everything Keeps Dissolving: Conversations with Coil.

[@jackpayne4658]

I knew very little about Spare before watching this. For some reason, I was often reminded of William Blake and Michel Foucault - an unlikely duo.

[@TheEsotericaChannel]

Def get Blake vibes....not so much Foucault though.

[@atana.potnia]

I was, too, reminded strongly of Blake mainly due to the similarities I can see between Spare's Zos and Kia and Blake's four Zoas; as well as the whole idea of alienation which happens in a similar fashion to Urizen in Blake's work. Very interesting video and comments, too!

[@jackpayne4658]

@@TheEsotericaChannel Foucault had a personal interest in 'limit experiences', though his interpretation would be rather different from Spare's. For me, Foucault is a nihilist - 'nothing is true, all is permitted' - which reminds me of chaos magick. Post-modern esotericism, if such a thing is viable.

[@integratedalchemist]

I've found this to be true at certain points of my life where I've allowed certain intentions or goals at times of care free but illuminated bliss, to be implimented and forgotten and later manifested with ease. I can see how using sigil magic would be a good exercise and way of strengthening this. I think we all do it consciously or unconsciously for better or for worse

[@josephmay447]

Glad I found your channel, shalom!

[@johnferry7778]

As with Crowley’s Thelema, Spare’s Zos Zia Cultis is often impenetrable and idiosyncratic, like learning an instrument we just need to find our own true will and style to take what we need from other peoples talents and works as signposts to help inspire and guide us along the way, but we don’t want to get overawed by tradition and get bogged down into trying to become second hand versions of artists and thinkers of the past. Time will tell who among us will develop our own great works and serve to inspire others in years to come.

[@grewntd]

The algorithm reunites me such intriguing content. It must be true, chance is a form of science we don't understand yet

[@youareivan]

i find your videos really interesting and appreciate the way you present them without feeling a need to editorialize. well done. this particular video reminds me of a comic book i was reading back in the 90's- "the invisibles" by grant morrison- wherein mr. morrison asked the readers to perform chaos magic to keep the book from being cancelled. in a note at the end of issue #14 he explained how to create a sigil and suggested that self pleasure was a good way to hack the perfect concentration requirement of the casting. the book continued for 45 more issues, so i leave it to the reader to decide whether it worked or not.

[@thetreeoflife6018]

This video was intelligent and well done. Osmon Spare is an example of a pattern. He was probably a genius and did contribute some interesting ideas and concepts, but here’s the thing- he lived impoverished his entire life, Crowley also seems to have a miserable drama filled life. Joseph Smith - a martyr. What are we accomplishing here ? Self empowerment , what? “ by their Fruits ye shall know them “. Whatever comes after their lives- is the answer and that is in the eye of the beholder.

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[@butterfacemcgillicutty]

OMG I love AOS!! I'm so glad you made a video about him. I've read all his books and biography and is such a big influence in my practice! I just turned my notifications on for this channel because I can't believe I almost missed this.

[@miguelsagueiii202]

Thank-you for this video, Doctor. The introduction to Spare is very comprehensive and particularly entertaining.

[@MrGuitarguru95]

21:30 “allegedly Spar could make it rain, no not like that, rain rain” 🌧☔️⛈

[@danielx555]

I just subscribed. I saw Dr. Puca's video on Spare and I am getting back into esotericism after spending a few decades away from it. This is all so fascinating.

[@atelier27]

Why do all these magicians seem to die broke and alone? I have experienced chaos magick to be effective sometimes but still I wonder about this.

[@bruceparker1970]

Well spare was an artist those guys seem to always struggle financially to the point that it's part of the mystique of being an artist.

[@atelier27]

@@bruceparker1970 I appreciate the reply but politely disagree with the assumption. I am an artist and a magician and I do very well for myself. There is no mystique in poverty. I look to be inspired by magicians who can improve their lives with magic and artists who can improve their lives and art.

[@lunam7249]

how about the bush family? they have been running planet earth since 632A.D.😳🫣

[@thomzwiefler6305]

"And you guessed it, you can use it to find buried treasure" Dee and Kelley look at each other in excitement and clap hands 👏.... The archangel nods in disapproval.... Again.

[@christainroberts381]

This channel is a gift to us all. Thank you kindly for sharing all of your knowledge in such an inviting way.

[@mko-ai]

I'm screaming at the "make it rain" comment 😂 "not like that-like rain, rain."

[@f0nd004u]

looool I am a hacker and a chaos magician and I saw you over there with your stack overflows

[@FTW_666]

Just watched this a second time. Excellent presentation, I thoroughly enjoyed this. Thank you!

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Love your voice and pacing. I am so glad I found you! Subscribed, nothing but blessings to you my friend

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The best occult content on youtube, by a distance

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Best video for me. We say the only thing that changes is changed. Do you think people egos have changed. Has pride twisted ego. Being proud of an achieving

[@laurah1020]

"you guessed it..you could find treasure..." I LOVE it! 😁

[@TheEsotericaChannel]

It's just always gonna come back to treasure around here ;)

[@cemreeraslan1930]

Thank you, great video. Will check out patreon!

[@simonhornby5382]

I spent some years studying A.O.S. and totally agree with your comments - however, I did always address him by a pronunciation that differs somewhat - Spare, as in 'spare the rod and spoil the child' etc. Maybe I have had it wrong all these years, either way, enigmatic says it all...

[@JM-qi5dm]

Thank you! Please make more videos!

[@pootnikalexander]

Once again Brilliant! So informative and humorous Enjoyed this immensely! Thank You

[@firephoenixgamers8590]

16:59 as a CS major i approve this analogy. Literally exactly how I was understanding this concept lol.

[@ryancoxy91]

"Not pictured: the void, on left" 🤣😂😂 I love you brother....thankyou for such a great channel. ❤👏🤌

[@aaronjennings8385]

I'd never heard of Spare before this. Thanks for the intro.

[@brettmeldahl4456]

Thanks!

[@MarcoVisconti]

As always, a very solid video! I always heard then name's pronounced as in "spare change" tho!

[@TheEsotericaChannel]

You know I used to too and someone 'corrected' me while I was studying in Amsterdam. I can't remember who now. Maybe it's like the difference in how people say Crowley's name...or, even more likely, I'm just wrong.

[@monsieurdorgat6864]

Your introduction reminded me so much of how magical beliefs are still today being synthesized with (admittedly poorly understood) scientific concepts. There's a lot of magical hubbub about "vibrations/resonance", which are words frequently used in string theory and - more importantly and concretely - our understanding of quantum chemistry. As a scientist, it's kind of funny to hear about that stuff because they're so clearly just throwing scientific buzz words haphazardly into religious and magical beliefs without the actual scientific basis behind those terms, but it's at least cathartic to see there's an extensive history of exactly this behavior!

[@AskALibbieist]

LOVE sigil/chaos magic and Spare. Great video, Dr Sledge!

[@Toucanyou]

just wanted to say I love the japanese puzzle boxes in the background- I have one in my room as well 😄

[@TimeandRelativeDimensioninHell]

Always learn something new Dr. Sledge! Thank you

[@Greentrianglegallery]

!!!!! So appreciated that was impressive and I can’t wait for more

[@dionysusyphus]

Been waiting for this since I found your channel! ZOS KIA CULTUS

[@Jimmy-vn9hv]

Thank you Justin. Hey you should do a little bit on Jane Roberts!! She influenced the so called new age movement big time w the Seth Speaks channeling material. Seth could have been Set! Who knows, but I find it incredible that she could come up with such amazing concepts while in a trance. Love your channel!

[@Gohliath]

Hurray! A chaos magic episode!