AUTISTIC PEOPLE TALKING Ep. 14 PODCAST ft. Amanda

Рет қаралды 1,881

Күн бұрын

Пікірлер: 89

@shapeofsoup Ай бұрын

I think so many of us didn’t realize we were missing a community until we found this one. It’s amazing to feel understood and not utterly alone in our heads. And we want that for you and anyone else who wants to be here.

@donnellallan Ай бұрын

I agree! 💜

@faye6459 Ай бұрын

Great name, Shape of Soup...molds to whatever vessel it is in.. great metaphor for a divergent person, with the bowl being the environment/expectations etc. Is that where it's coming from?

@isabellammusic Ай бұрын

Yes!

@shapeofsoup Ай бұрын

@@faye6459 thanks! Yes, I love that aspect of it. I actually got it from a meme that made the rounds in a few autistic fb groups a few years ago: “putting soup in square Tupperware…it’s just not right. It should be a circle one which is the shape of soup.” I found it relatable and hilarious and so here we are 😂

@Pjolter365 Ай бұрын

So true!

@CATISTIC70 Ай бұрын

I’ve been watching both of your channels for about a year. 53 yo self dx’d woman. I just adore you both! What a treat to open up YT and see your interview. ❤❤❤

@faye6459 Ай бұрын

Me too, and I'm 53 Lol. You in the UK too hahaa :)

@CATISTIC70 Ай бұрын

@@faye6459 cool! No, USA, unfortunately right now 😉

@i.am.mindblind Ай бұрын

😊 Glad you could watch! It was a joy to talk to Claire!

@isabellammusic Ай бұрын

Yes! Finally you've talked to Amanda! I'm so inspired by her and I watch every video she posts. This conversation was very interesting and I got validation. I can relate to so much you are talking about. I feel like I found the people I need in my life who understand me. We support each other and I have something very important to focus on and it's advocacy. I'll keep talking about myself and Neurodivergence even though I get bored and listening to my own voice sometimes. Thank you so much for being transparent and honest!

@i.am.mindblind Ай бұрын

❤❤❤ Thank you!

@Pjolter365 Ай бұрын

Thank you for sheering Amanda. This was extremely validating and reflective! Best episode yet. You should have Amanda as a reoccurring guest often🙂. Thank you both for sharing about mental health too. It helps to reflect on my one challenges too!

@lesliekarl3594 Ай бұрын

I am so happy to have watched Amanda on Autistic People Talking! Love both of you! 😁🥰

@i.am.mindblind Ай бұрын

❤❤

@avgirlaustintx Ай бұрын

Yay! I love Amanda!

@WoodshedTheory Ай бұрын

She is great!

@avgirlaustintx Ай бұрын

I so relate to the agoraphobia conversation. I have my safe areas in the city that I am familiar with. I live right next to a big city and if I have to go out of my safe areas, I panic. Also I have to drive on back roads or certain roads I am familiar with (no highways). But I can get across the city this way - so if I have to go somewhere new, I drive to one of my safe areas I am familiar with first and then I figure out how to go to the new place. It will take me twice as long to get there but that's just how I roll...🙃

@BlueRoseHelen252 Ай бұрын

Excellent conversation. Well worth the listen. Thank you both. 😊

@laura.bseyoga Ай бұрын

Thank you for letting us listen in on your chat! 💚

@WoodshedTheory Ай бұрын

Thanks for listening

@shapeofsoup Ай бұрын

Yeaaaaahhh! So glad to see you here, Amanda!

@i.am.mindblind Ай бұрын

Hi 👋 it was such a wonderful morning chatting with Claire! I almost kept forgetting we were filming. 😅

@kellyschroeder7437 Ай бұрын

Awesome conversation!!! 💞💞👊👊. Thank you. So relate to not being able to draw stuff from mind. From a pic yes …..

@laurahale9309 Ай бұрын

64 yr old here and YES I am mind blind. Thank you for enlightening me!!!!

@WoodshedTheory Ай бұрын

Glad this was helpful

@johnbillings5260 Ай бұрын

I have total aphantasia so i can't visualize anything. I also have auditory hyperphantasia so I can recall audio clips, songs, etc. and have a built-in jukebox that i can control.

@InterDivergent Ай бұрын

I relate to both. The Jukebox is pretty neat. I have songs on repeat pretty much non-stop throughout the day.

@johnbillings5260 Ай бұрын

@@InterDivergent You're actually only the 2nd person I've come across that has this. Are you able to fast forward and rewind to the parts you like of a song? I will do this to stim by getting frissons.

@InterDivergent Ай бұрын

@@johnbillings5260 I'll often repeat parts of a song until I've heard it enough to satisfy myself, and then let it continue playing or skip to the next song. I listen to music to and from work in my car, 25 mins each way. Those songs will generally continue through the rest of the day in my head. At the moment I've still got Mad World resonating through my mind after listening to a cover from @shapeofsoup over 2 hours ago (kzbin.info/www/bejne/ipqQoqeunsqEr8U). I can also speed up / slow down the tempo of the songs and add a deep bass track to the songs, which i'll typically have in my car from some remix. Had not heard about this 'frissions' term, but yes, also experience this either on my arms or in my brain (brain sizzle - which I oddly enough also get from coming off anti-depressants). I just figure everyone does this Jukebox thing; it's been a lifelong thing for me. After some quick research, I can confirm that I cannot do this for any other senses. My smell and taste are pretty poor generally, and I'm not very sensitive to touch - I certainly cannot imagine any of them.

@marisa5359 Ай бұрын

Yes to the jukebox. I can also go back over conversations...what was said, the tone used, and so on...That definitely has its interesting moments as well as its drawbacks.

@lizbakeslemons940 Ай бұрын

I'm so grateful for both of you!! To hear adult women talk about their autistic experience is so healing after the years and years of me not knowing what was "wrong" with me 💛💛

@InterDivergent Ай бұрын

Yes, this visualisation in the brain thing - totally a metaphor... for something lol. I can't picture anything in my head. I do dream quite vividly, but when I'm awake there are certainly no pictures in my head. I can think of the idea of something, or the memory of something, but I cannot visually see it, unless I'm physically looking at a picture of it. Funny with the artistic side of things, I can totally copy a picture (but mainly only an animation, not shading so much): I can scale it up or down (and it'll be almost a carbon copy), but I cannot think up something new. The picture will then look like the idea of something, much like perhaps a 5 year old's drawing of a car or a house. I do have internal dialogue.

@shapeofsoup Ай бұрын

Ok last comment on the same video, I swear 😂 Regarding doing videos on topics already done, when it comes to autism awareness, this stuff clearly still needs to reach more people. Autism content saturation is not a thing we need to be concerned with for a long, long time-for better and for worse.

@isabellammusic Ай бұрын

It's very important that people talk about the same things because how are we gonna raise awareness if we don't? I will probably talk alot about what other content creators already talked about in the future when it feels right for me because that's how I learned, by hearing different people talk from their own perspective.

@InterDivergent Ай бұрын

I've been to so many different doctors trying to figure out what was wrong for so so long. 20+ years. The amount of stress I had dealing with daily life had my body in knots with major stomach issues, food allergies etc. From Chinese herbal medicine to Indian Ayurvedic medicine, traditional doctors, Electroacupuncture, Acupuncture, ADHD meds, depression meds, blah blah blah. When someone tries to tell me "Have you tried..." it's like yeah I've tried everything, get lost. I've spent the better part of 20 years actively trying to figure out what's wrong with me (or perhaps rather what's different about me), until I got to Klinefelter Syndrome at 45yo and Autism at 46yo. How can it possibly take so long? The problem is that everyone was trying to treat individual symptoms. They were not considering everything as a whole. And still after my Autism self-identification people still question it like they know better. I did the online tests with my Son and the results are so incredibly different. I just cannot imagine how it is possible to get a 6 out of 28 (for example) compared to a 26 out of 28. Insane.

@isabellammusic Ай бұрын

You've been through so much! I don't get WHY medical professionals were avoiding Autism for so long like there can't be just one condition causing other conditions.

@pensivelyreading Ай бұрын

I am self-diagnosed at 34 (I’m still uncomfortable and getting used to saying this because it’s still fresh for me). I’ve been watching for a couple months now and I really appreciate your videos. This conversation is full of so much to think about and so much that is relatable. Thank you for having these discussions!

@WoodshedTheory Ай бұрын

Thanks for your comment and viewership :)

@kayjay-kreations Ай бұрын

I was diagnosed just before Amanda, with asd at 58 years old. Amandas channel helped me to realise i too am mind blind and i am blown away and feel ripped off that i dont have pictures in my head. i too am an arist and need a refrence picture to paint My sister works with autistic children and tottally gaslit my diagnosis it effected me so badly.😢 i am now 61

@WoodshedTheory Ай бұрын

It’s so cool that Amanda was so helpful to you

@pikmin4743 Ай бұрын

thank both of you wonderful autistic people for talking! this is super validating and I'm only a few minutes in I'm happy to be a coin in your bottle! hehe especially because we are (Au) gold coins

@milomrebloc1770 Ай бұрын

Autistic People Talking is my favorite thing you put out because you do a great job as an interviewer and the discussion reveals more insights about your own experience. I would love to see you do more of those videos and even include some regular (non-influencer) interviewees. I really think you’re onto something here.

@WoodshedTheory Ай бұрын

Hi Thank you for your feedback - I do my best to put out as many episodes as I can

@i.am.mindblind Ай бұрын

I don't really consider myself an influencer, I just chat about my Autistic experience. I'm glad you enjoyed watching

@NeurodiverJENNt Ай бұрын

Claire! I love your mom! So cute that she wanted to watch you film porch coffee ❤

@WoodshedTheory Ай бұрын

She is the BEST :)

@furisjourney Ай бұрын

I'm so glad you guys did this! Amanda - you were the first content creator I found myself relating to very much! Clare - you were the second content creator who really helped me figure out this AuDHD stuff! Love you both so much and I am so grateful! I was formally diagnosed in March with Autism at age 57. I have had the ADHD diagnosis for about 15 yrs. The interplay between the two diagnoses explains so much! ❤

@WoodshedTheory Ай бұрын

Thanks for your kind words I’m so happy we have been able to help in any way

@cupofteawithpoetry Ай бұрын

This was great!! Love you two! Thanks Claire and Amanda 😊😊

@TheCassierra908 Ай бұрын

Such a helpful, interesting discussion! Thank you both!

@zoevolpa2085 Ай бұрын

Thank you both!! This was a really, really helpful and wonderful episode!!! 😊

@marisa5359 Ай бұрын

Good stuff here, ladies. Definitely relate to the agoraphobia as described. New places suggested to me must absolutely be researched. It can get painstaking actually and decision paralysis comes on if there is even one detail I find myself unsure on. It isn't that I am never ever spotaneous, but it is a difficult prospect for me and there is a lot of mini planning still happening internally if the idea is presented to me. Yes, too, to shower crying, struggling with suicidal thoughts, being diagnosed after my kids' diagnoses. All relatable. Thank you. Best wishes on the book, Amanda. As a writer and artist myself, I encourage you to enjoy exploring this medium. Perhaps I am prejudiced on this point, but it can be such a lovely thing to create with words. One of my chief fixations is language. It is almost like painting or sketching is for me ( something else I love) but it is done with shaping words versus colors and lines. As I think of it, I am not sure I have exactly the difficulty with visualizing described but I think what goes on in my mind processes is from a lot of threads gained over the years from my favorite escapes: books, film, art, nature. I take a bit from here and a bit from there and weave something new from what my mind is pressing me to on any given day. Sometimes, I am satisfied with the results. Other times, I pick excessively at it. A lot over the years has been sadly discarded. I regret that, frankly. Geez. Ok. Info dump noted...lol. Sorry. All that ramble to say I hope you have fun and great success with this venture, Amanda. It can be a challenge but also such a positive. Thank you for sharing here today and thank you, Claire, for providing a place for such great conversation. ❤

@WoodshedTheory Ай бұрын

Thanks for sharing it’s cool to learn more about you :)

@flyygurl18 Ай бұрын

Fascinating discussion: I really enjoyed learning more about aphantasia from Amanda and hearing more about both your journeys! Great vibes 🥰🖖🏾🍀

@WoodshedTheory Ай бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

@flyygurl18 Ай бұрын

@@WoodshedTheory 🥰

@conniewagner4234 26 күн бұрын

Claire, I totally relate to you and Amanda. I was never diagnosed, but I know I’m on the Autism Spectrum. I feel like I was always misunderstood, and sometimes I still feel that way. Communication issues abound! My mother had the same issue. We’ll all get through it day-by-day. Thank you for sharing on your channel. 😊🫶🏻

@messyjessyjade 20 күн бұрын

Another great conversation, so many aha moments! ❤

@WoodshedTheory 18 күн бұрын

Hope you enjoyed it!

@forestdweller000 Ай бұрын

This is so interesting. Also a confirmation that I am not experiencing this alone. Great work

@WoodshedTheory Ай бұрын

Glad you found it interesting

@AaronGrosch29 Ай бұрын

I'm listening to the Autistic People Talking podcast this morning while I write down my plan for the day before I meet a fellow Autistic Person for a walking version of Autistic People Talking... lol! Lots of autistic talking happening this morning for me I guess! Thanks, as always, for these!

@WoodshedTheory Ай бұрын

Autistic people walking! The new spinoff show! :)

@WoohooliganComedy Ай бұрын

💖

@lisastratton3869 Ай бұрын

I also have the aphantasia thing going on, and it blew my mind to learn that other people actually see stuff and that visualization is not a metaphor. I'm also a bit of an artist and painting is one of my special interests. I used to write a lot of poetry too. None of it based on visual information though, all based on feelings. When I start my most creative paintings I "feel" for the colors...no images in my head more verbal descriptions. I like how I once saw "impressionist" described, idk the source, but rather than painting a landscape as it was the Impressionists were said to paint the impression the landscape left in the artist. Totally love the Impressionists most of all. PS...today I may have learned that I don't have an actual internal dialog too!

@WoodshedTheory Ай бұрын

thanks for sharing Lisa very interesting

@shapeofsoup Ай бұрын

My internal dialogue is often not a voice. Usually more amalgamative, as Claire suggests. Kind of intangible, flowing and mixing and splitting off of ideas. Kinda like a lava lamp 😂 But I will use clear inner voice dialogue when I’m trying to express something. So basically only when the thought is communicatively related. Otherwise, I guess my brain decided at some point that if it’s thinking about something that’s not intended to be shared, what’s the point in using language.

@isabellammusic Ай бұрын

I just have to reply because your comments are so good. I can hear my voice frequently in my own head but I think that's from ADHD, I hear other people voices in my head to sometimes but then I have to think about how they sound so it's not like I can't control it but it's very interesting. I mostly think out loud or talk to myself to be able to focus because I get distracted so easily. And when I feel like I can't do that because people will think I'm talking to them, I hear my voice inside my head. I'm oversharing now but that's how I communicate.

@shapeofsoup Ай бұрын

@@isabellammusic thank you for sharing and for the kind words! And I know what you mean, it’s hard sometimes to keep the oversharing in check. But I’m okay with it to a point in circumstances like these because it makes me so happy when others can relate and perhaps even find something beneficial in what I’ve shared.

@Sakichii Ай бұрын

The description of the horse drawings resonates with me. I can draw in detail when I have reference, but I struggle so much without any reference unless it is cartoony style and I have drawn it multiple times before and it is more like muscle memory or remembering the shapes and proportions. The description of chapter titles instead of headings for events in life is really interesting, I wonder if I relate to that as well. I used to think I had a good memory but the more that time passes the less I feel like I am actually remembering. It is more random details and facts that I remember than the details of a specific event. I definitely can’t relive memories. I remember more about what I wrote when I journaled than I remember from before and after I stopped doing that. But even then if I read them I don’t always recognise it. But I do feel like I need to document things in order to ‘remember’ them.

@ghill8587 Ай бұрын

I’ve listened to this twice! This conversation is so interesting. I don’t consider myself mindblind necessarily, but I can relate to a lot of what Amanda describes, so I wonder if aphantasia exists as a spectrum. I don’t consider myself artistic, in that I can’t create art out of my mind, but I can copy someone else’s drawings really well. I also have big gaps in my memory. 😬. I hope more research comes out about it. It’s definitely worth a deep dive. Thank you both for sharing!

@StarShade-l7q Ай бұрын

SDAM was like the mind blown meme for me, just hearing the name. It me, now off to research and see if that theory is correct. I don't just have an internal monologue, I have a whole sketch show. I can read stuff internally as different voices.

@WoodshedTheory Ай бұрын

Interesting! Thanks for sharing your experience.

@i.am.mindblind Ай бұрын

I've got Playlist on my channel about SDAM. It explained so much of my life!

@StarShade-l7q Ай бұрын

@@i.am.mindblind I started listening to it yesterday!

@stephenie44 Ай бұрын

My freshmen year roommate and I had the same autism quiz experience. Pffft obviously we’re not both autistic! This quiz doesn’t work… We are indeed both autistic, I guess we just had to wait a few more years to find out.

@rinaroche Ай бұрын

My inner voices are all fairly distinct in how they sound and in how things are said, it seems. My mental experience is the opposite of aphantasia. I remember most things as full movies that are actually happening while I'm remembering them. This doesn't translate to all my memories though. Some memories are told to me by one or more of my voices. Others are vaguely there and hard to, like, comprehend but otherwise completely blocked off.😅 My mind is just ... Extra. Still, minds are so interesting!

@WoodshedTheory Ай бұрын

interesting thank you for sharing

@faithcooper8935 Ай бұрын

true, who I watch is not in the same area I produce content it. I love yarn content for consuming but I prefer to make content to support families of those that have someone in the spoonie community.

@faithcooper8935 Ай бұрын

as a programer the nurotypical,exe analogy.

@JonBrase Ай бұрын

My internal dialogue seems to have two modes: a more sound-neutral one that's faster and tends to be how I perceive the language in whatever I'm reading, and a slower-paced one with more tone to it that seems to try to activate the muscle groups that would be needed to imitate the sound (with or without actually imitating the sound out loud). This both gets used for imagining voices (such as imagining that Morgan Freeman is speaking one of my thoughts) and for more general imagination of sound (music, car noises, whatever). I'm not sure I have the ability to imagine sounds without some part of my brain trying to imitate them vocally.