Audi A8 vs BMW 7 Series | What's the best luxury saloon to drive? | Autocar

When it comes to luxury saloons, BMW's 7 Series has long been regarded as 'the ultimate driving machine', as the slogan goes. Can the all-new 2018 Audi A8 knock it off top spot as the best driver's car in the class? Matt Prior and Dan Prosser take the luxo-barges to one of Autocar's favourite Welsh B-roads to find out. Subscribe now: smarturl.it/autoca
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[@MrRealmadridbernabeu]

V12 BMW vs W12 Audi would be an interesting comparison

[@markbrix9385]

I didn't expect that the critics would be so bad. I honestly like 7-series and S-class more, but such a destroying judgment is really not fair. The A8 has advanced technology, super nice interior and seems in general more up to date than it's competitors.

[@Tashyncho-Sapa]

super nice creaking and fingerprints interior

[@JTM610]

@@Tashyncho-Sapa your comment did not age well

[@Henning_]

Your colleague in Autocar gave the new A8 4.5 stars and said the car feels «amazingly wieldy and directionally responsive» and that it was «very pleasant» to drive, and on your website the A8 is ranked above the 7-series in the top 10 best luxury cars. So is the A8 a good car or not? It's not according to this video, but it is according to your website.

[@stevenregehr1034]

Henning Salvesen goes to show that these are both great cars and it comes down to preference

[@andrewmitchell2313]

Welcome to the inconsistency of Autocar. Time to unsubscribe.

[@utb8536]

Subi_fan unfortunately they tell us that the 7th series is better in all those situations mentioned by you!

[@TheEryk03]

Different journalist, different subjective result. I never take serious this moron.

[@TheEryk03]

@5putput BMW reserves that their car must win because otherwise they will not give for testing. It's nothing new.

[@MotahSports]

2 men with two different minds talking about two different vehicles, nonsense. need one man to drive both back to back and compare.

[@mudangyarang6099]

They are talking the same thing it is scripted

[@YourGodsIcon]

I have watched hundreds and hundreds of car review videos over the past 15 years and I have never seen camera placement as satisfying as the ones that are presented inside these two luxury vehicles. I get such a sense of the true ambiance and all-encompassing inclusion from the well thought out placement of these cameras, I feel like I know what it's like to ride inside each of these two vehicles. Thank you, and please, continue to do so. Subscribed.

[@smithwesson7765]

My BMW 750i is an absolute hoot to drive. I've driven professionally for three decades and was starting to get bored stiff behind the wheel. The Bimmer puts a smile on my face every time, even just going for groceries :)

[@jonny5777]

Great review chaps. I never thought I'd say this but I prefer the Audis interior. It's a shame nobody really buys saloons these days, they're so much better looking and cooler than SUVs.

[@viktor4860]

just wait 3 years and you can have either for 20K

[@viktor4860]

big clunkers are depreciating faster now and the BMW will never last 6 years

[@GarryMcGovern]

@ Gi Gi Nope, @BusinessClassOnly is spot on: just check autotrader and search for BMW 7-Series from 2015 - first car that pops up is £19,700 (and you'd no doubt be able to negotiation a bit more off that too!).

[@krugmeup2162]

Very accurate review. Driven both. 7 series wins for driving dynamics no question.

[@Hitngan]

The A8 is the best looking and that counts for 70%

[@curtisglass9110]

Ll

[@curtisglass9110]

😂

[@StasComoestas]

Two beautiful and powerful cars…. THANK YOU for sharing.

[@silextmthebestofquattro6935]

The guy in the A8 was in comfort mode 100%, and he was trying to be fast, sometimes i wonder where do they find these stone headed people.

[@Yamaguchi2Chris]

silexTM The Best Of Quattro under a rock

[@MSA-hj9pu]

Best review. It’s about time someone calls out Audi’s offerings now days. Like why would they even release the Audi with such an engine.

[@AchOwed]

Because of climate change.

[@MarcoAurelio-jj4ho]

Perfect. Thank you.

[@Bremen8484]

Perfect sedan Audi A8

[@siphotos3282]

BREMEN 84 I have a 2011 a8 , the new seven is better

[@Tashyncho-Sapa]

@@siphotos3282 really?

[@podiapod888]

That grill from the Audi is almost identical to Hyundai's

[@rzesatan8715]

Bro Audi is not copying it

[@mudangyarang6099]

Nobody said they are copying you idiot

[@Louiegonzalezzzzz]

Nice video!

[@ahmadalmajid6860]

Kept falling asleep between Matt talks and waking up when Dan starts talking

[@LAFTENAGLIAUMA]

Great and insight rich review!

[@sreejatk5786]

Bmw = Driving dynamics,luxury,comfort Audi = Technologies,luxury,comfort

[@siphotos3282]

Sayuj Krishna bmw wins

[@DRII-yv1yt]

the A8, and to a lesser extent the new A6, are the first Audis showing VW got hurt by the diesel scandal and obviously had to reduce R&D and spending in general on their newer platforms.

[@VikramSinghBhayal_]

1:55 *Irony is that Virat Kohli is Audi India's Brand Ambassador and he's been spotted on BMW'S INFO SYSTEM*

[@shahrour9]

Worked for BMW and AUDI for 11 years the 7s is better in my opinion. Its fun to drive, best seats in the business, easy to use console

[@azepeda88]

Did the A8 have the AI active suspension?

[@franklinerasmus5826]

This is the very first review I’ve watched where the new Audi A8 had gotten a bad review (mind you in your website it was quite the opposite) you guys are clearly leaning towards performance critique because everything is centered around agility poise and handling, would you test the Rolls Royce the same??? You said it yourself these are limousines!!!

[@athaurrahman7784]

I agree

[@TheJoeMB]

Interesting, Autocar website placed the A8 ahead of the 7. But also I gather these cars are very spec sensitive.

[@felipe34k]

they are idiots! manny pointless comentary and why review those cars although new, they are just the same as last year if you look at it!

[@Franc39A6DD]

Audi pays the journalists to have good articles. But when there are comparative videos, they realize that BMW destroys Audi. Listen to the crackling sound inside the audi when the tester speaks. Everyone on this planet knows that the BMWs provide a driving pleasure above Audi and Mercedes, the chassis are exceptional. Audi fans are frustrated. It's easier to lie by writing your article behind your hidden desk than in a real test video

[@Gez492]

Yes they didn't say what spec both cars were at and wow extremely biased but cone to expect this from Autocar

[@Franc39A6DD]

@Gi I think you are in denial. Apart from the Mercedes amg GT, no Mercedes is more efficient on a circuit than a BMW. The mercedes are heavy, unbalanced, BMW destroys Audi and Mercedes. a45-rs3

[@Franc39A6DD]

@Gi Give me some proof, give me a lap time when Mercedes and Audi crush BMW in the same category.

[@Gkoulidis]

It is really strange that the opinions on which one is better are so different on each different review

[@devalraval007]

I am an Audi guy but common, it's an A8, the pinnacle and it doesn't even have a sun/moon roof.. Really? My 2007 A4 base sedan has one.. This A8 is definitely a step back in terms of exterior.. The D4 generation with W shaped LED lights looked simply stunning..

[@marshallposey2063]

I love my 750LI!

[@michaelv6870]

I recently was in the market for a full size sedan. I would have taken the S Class but they retail for about 10 K more in the used market than the other two. The Audi is just super uninspiring so I bought a 7 series; and very happy with my decision.

[@JoaoABRodrigues]

Why do you compare the 4wheel steering BMW against a 2 wheel steering Audi, when there's also the option of 4 wheel steering in the A8?

[@II-cs3xx]

Maybe this A8 also had 4 wheel steering but mantioned it would make A8 look better. It's biased review.

[@komentierer]

8:49 *WHAT?!* You reviewed how sporty and engaging the A8 was to drive in *COMFORT MODE?!* Adaptive steering, variable dampers, transmission and variable sway bars were in their most comfortable setting and you seriously complained that the car didn't feel sporty to drive? What's next.. Putting semi-slicks on a G-Class and off-roading it?

[@markhamilton3943]

With the A8 (and my A6) you can tell it to change the temperature or change radio station using a voice command. So no pfaffing required with the screen when driving.

[@mehmetguner5729]

@ 1.18 (who else noticed what I saw?) 😂 I LOVE YOU REVIEWS GENTLEMEN 👍🏼

[@luvthepie]

Clearly.....that's why they call it the 'ULTIMATE DRIVING MACHINE'......Love my 7 series (my first was an '01 740iL - bought it in '02 - my second is the '15 75OLi) still have 'em both!

[@michaelv6870]

I`m jealous. Wish I still had my E38 740i.

[@borisjovanovic7648]

That BMW is 😍😍😈 beautyy

[@ScenesThroughTravels]

Totally understand that , I've driven many of them new 740e 740i and 760L , It feels so precise and you sit and feel like you are driving a 1 series . (did i just say that) It handles beautifully

[@Amit_l92]

Having seen other A8 reviews this review doesn’t match up. Infact on a comfort & tech level it’s clear the Audi is superior..

[@Rayk76]

@japanwatchconnection "better"

[@nastyscorp]

A kind of video I was just waiting for a luxury saloon which one is for driver.

[@futmut1000]

Cant trust reviews anymore, another reviewer said the Audi A8 is much more comfortable and silent then the S Class let alone the 7 Series, here they are saying the 7series is better on every aspect...Which is it?

[@BlackjackLover]

Thanks

[@sideshowbob32]

The Audi is taking a real pounding!

[@Puzzoozoo]

They'll have to up their game then. It's not like they haven't got the engineering talent.

[@jpm3066]

Drove a bmw my whole life they drive nice but they are endless money pits. Got a audi a6 and been very happy with it. Nice video! I guess it comes down to preference.

[@Pilotfarmand]

I've been drivin around in all three cars to work. And I must say, S class is really great, but there are a lot of cheap plastic in the back and for such an expensive car, It shouldn't have that. The Audi A8, is great I love VW group cars, but to me it feels a lot like premium VW sedans (arteon). It has some really cool tech and it is really smooth to be drivin in. But it still has a little bit of cheapness to it. The BMW is great, the quality is just on point it's so smooth, and the gear shifts are in another league. Tho' it got some plastic, it don't feel as cheap for some reason, I don't know if they use some other materiels or not. BMW cars, just has something special to them. - I am a previous owner of the Audi, VW group cars. But I am now an owner of a BMW, just to be clear and honest.

[@numericbin9983]

Cars in this category are all about comfort & luxury. The 75 year old billionaire won't care about the driving dynamics. Nor will his chauffeur

[@mbp1505]

Audi's touch screen dashboards would drive me insane. Wouldn't be able to put up with finger prints everywhere. Just keep it simple.

[@michaelv6870]

Same here. I hate touch screens. That`s why I keep my G12 7 Series.

[@nhoff7703]

The black headliner on the BMW alone makes the interior looks 10x nicer!

[@sdemosi]

It's not a big surprise the BMW handles better on UK roads. It's been that way for decades. That's not to say the Audi isn't a great car but the BMW handles better. If I was living in Germany, I'd choose the Audi but I'm not so I'd probably buy an S Class in preference to either of them 😉

[@David-ej1ps]

Name of house song playing in the beginning

[@andrystefanini]

Thanks

[@lukeeddy]

Not driven either car so I couldn’t say which was the better car but even if the Audi was better than the BMW could you bring yourself to say it? I’m surprised I haven’t heard any mention of drifting around on public roads as that’s usually the the only thing that matters when motoring journalists are judging a cars driving dynamics so well done on that point.

[@rnbv_the_only]

why are they needed if with all the luxury and beauty they have a "curve steering wheel"? and what these two are doing in the oncoming lane?

[@aryanahmed3301]

Literally every other reviewer says that the A8 has a better ride and handling than the 7 series. Your own website ranks it higher than the 7 series, but you say the 7 series is better. WTF!?

[@JimBob_1975]

Nearly everybody grumbles about having screens for basic operations like heating controls but car manufacturers STILL do this

[@rizkyp]

it is ironic series 7 interior is now outdated by new design language in Series 3 and X5. i guess LCI is incoming?

[@adwebwiz]

Most luxurious and NEW Audi and it's already squeaking like crazy

[@shahnwzkhn]

Being a user for Bmw 530 d and Audi A6 at same my favourite is always 530

[@Naseefaek]

Hit like if u noticed king kohli on 2:00 on bmw screen..

[@AmitojdeepSinghBrar]

It's 1:54 mate

[@Naseefaek]

@@AmitojdeepSinghBrar doesn't matter. king is a king

[@AmitojdeepSinghBrar]

@@Naseefaek Kohli is the king but ppl need to be able to see where he comes in video. 2:00 is quite a bit later in case someone tries to find him after reading your comment

[@ridox5689]

Amitojdeep Singh Brar d

[@mihrpsah]

Yes bro

[@kristofkiss1940]

Base spec Audi and a high spec bmw , what a "fair" review.

[@BessemsV4]

didn't expect anything else.....

[@damindra]

The 7 Series does not have the latest dashboard, have a look at the new 8 Series for example!!

[@mkm282]

Man I feel this video was specifically made to bash on the A8 by getting a much lower specced one against a fully loaded 7 series

[@santana9537]

Wait for the killer 7 series facelift

[@GeorgeMietus]

This Autocar review reflects my own experiences with Audi and BMW. I have a BMW 750i with Dynamic Drive and bought a Audi A7 Prestige TDI with Quattro. The BMW 7-series with Dynamic Drive is THE best driving car I've found. It erases road imperfections, holds the road well and takes corners like a M3. My only complaints are that it's much heavier than it feels, making it hard to stop in bad weather, and the maintenance I've done (such as replacing valve seals) has been very time intensive. ...but, BMW's SQL-based ISTA is amazing and I've never had trouble finding part numbers or updating my car's firmware regularly. I bought the Audi A7 in hopes of a sportier ride mixed with better fuel economy for my daily commute, but it's just well-balanced and dull. Best I can say is that Audi is very practical. (This applies to every aspect of the car from the steering feel to the stereo.) I have to take turns at about half the speed of my 7-series because of the understeer and there's almost zero steering feedback in the wheel, no matter the setting (Comfort, Auto or Dynamic). Steering feels more like one of those video game steering wheels than actually driving a car. Ironically, I feel every bump in the road (and the roads here in Chicago are horrible), but Quattro works pretty well in bad weather. ...another huge issue is that Audi also has a lot of electronic bugs (such as the mirrors stop folding out if I lock the doors at the same time or the folding screen sometimes takes a minute to initiate) and their Java-based ODIS software requires a costly online subscription package (meant mostly only for Audi dealerships) to do most things. ...and forget about regular firmware updates as Audi doesn't believe in them. (Updates require SVM codes found in TPIs, which are usually a response to mass consumer complaints or lawsuits.) That said, it's a fine daily driver, but more comparable with Lexus/Acura than Mercedes/BMW. Based on my experiences, I'm not buying another VAG car in the future. They look fine and some specialized makes/models (such as Porsche) are great at one thing, but there are too many compromises that I'm not willing to make. BMW, in my own experiences, is more of a "best-of everything" or close to it experience.

[@SirSchmittyX]

I'm glad they added turn signals to the BMW

[@gdfggggg]

That grill would look better on a large truck or ocean liner

[@mansees]

The best car to drive in this segment is Jaguar XJ and Porsche Panamera. BMW 7 Series is a dud compared to these two.

[@RakeshKumar-dg5of]

i like 2of them 👍

[@DoubleDeckerAnton]

I love these German beasts...!!! Best made cars in the world...!!!

[@Sandouras]

Reliability isnt the only criterium though.

[@abc20002koonrsr]

Lexus is better built no doubt

[@poosnip]

They are not .... I have owned several Audi’s and a couple of BMW’s and their reliability is woeful. Especially the Audi’s.....really annoying. Over engineering and electronics gone mad. There is a sensor for everything and there are sensors watching the sensors so basically you get no end of alarms when one thing goes wrong. Basically these cars do the same thing as any ford or any Japanese car would but after 3 years things go wrong. It is almOST as if the failures are engineered into them

[@poosnip]

Any one who says German cars are the best in the world either has never owned one or owns a 20 year old one (built in simpler times when, yes one could argue that they are the best in the world).. having said that, I have owned 3 MERCEDES eclasses as well as BMW’s and Audi’s. My mb was the previous generation and the pre facelifts one before that. I only ever had one failure in 2009 when just outside of warranty a bank of sensors went astray and the car shut down on a roundabout ! Mercedese fixed it gratis and sent the invoice for the fix by mistake . £786. I have since owned a 2011 eclass and a 2015 eclass and not a thing has gone wrong.... although there is a massive difference in the quality of interior materials between my previous sport and last eclass SE. In my experience of the three German giants MB seems the most reliable, but servicing at the dealer is extortionate. A simple filter change and oil inspection service at 48000 miles was £480 ridiculous! I am moving to Lexus next. BMW and audi reliability’s is woeful. Especially audi. I have owned an A6 c6 and c7 and BMW 5 SERIES and for a short time an x5. All shite for reliability. All these cars had less than 50k miles on them when I bought them. I don’t believe Lexus would be any better built but the Japanese know a thing or two about removing faults and defects from the manufacturing process. I am after an RX; the saloons are pig ugly and boring

[@gdfggggg]

Had a 530d touring - the reliability was beyond bad, it was mind numbingly bad in fact.

[@tanaytoshniwal8518]

Literally everything that the BMW has is what the Audi can have and much more. This wasn’t a fair test since the Audi was a lower version compared to the BMW. I’m not being bias but I am being fair.

[@balsingh1]

Regardless of which is the better car overall, I totally get the point about having real dials/buttons to control things. these touch screen climate controls systems are slow and awkward.

[@waverunner7063]

The front of the A8 looks like a 2005 model year.

[@ramonj08]

The 7 series has always been better than the A8, just like the S class has been better than the 7 series. It’s really nothing new.

[@abc20002koonrsr]

The 7 drives better than the s class too and its older design , the nxt 7 will finish the s class once and for all

[@RonsmooveTI]

New generation of S class so 7 series is finished

[@RonsmooveTI]

S class more luxurious too

[@1990Thunderbolt]

Miky Koon that's like saying barcelona will catch up to real madrid's champions league titles and i don't see that happening.

[@1dayumay548]

If you feel bad, remember that the president of GERMANY has an Audi A8.

[@thelarry383]

These two cars are competing for 2nd place.

[@Rottensteam]

Tesla P100D takes 1st

[@thelarry383]

Rottensteam HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[@95mushroom]

The sales figures don't lie. S-Class outsells both the 7-series and A8 *combine.*

[@jamiep61]

Great Video Comparison. I would choose the New Audi A8 as It features some great tech

[@sylvantieger4981]

I own a BMW 2016 750 Twin Turbo 8 M sport and a Lexus 2011 460 LAWD Both Amazing cars AND either one puts the Audi to shame in handling and 0-60 and really tight turns over 100 MPH

[@JimBob_1975]

Did they need to do a road test to know which would drive better?

[@jgvbadv]

What the hell is going on with BMWs rear seat head rest?? Btw: If you ever want to use that camera angle from the hood-tell your cameraman to use polarizer (filter to remove that glare)

[@HyperbirdF6]

Why don't you guys ever read? They are talking about a drivers car, not comfort or anything else!

[@nishants2691]

This new A8 doesn't look big on screen but that 7 series does, 7 series has lot of road presence and that A8 is more of a tech factory and it looks from outside the car as well

[@Alex-FFM]

S-Klasse period! cheers

[@MalakhiW]

All you guys in the comments are thinking they’re saying the bmw is the better car . They’re saying it is the better car to drive not to be driven.

[@peterhammer6915]

The Audi was murdered in this review.

[@martonschiffer7941]

If you want more power in the A8, then you buy it with a bigger engine, or you can wait for the S8, which will obviously be a car with more capable suspension and more power. It makes no sense to compare the A8 with the smallest, weakest engine with the 7 series and lamenting about the performance.

[@pavlins123]

The BMW and the Audi in this review have roughly the same HP figures. Why do you think it is unfair comparison then ? Both BMW and Audi have more powerful engines. Also what about the misleading way Audi labels its model ? WTF is this 50 figure ? It seems like it is meant to compete with 750i and S 500 but it's nowhere near those performance figures.

[@myvolvoforlife]

I’ve driven the 50TDI in the new A6 and the transmission is horribly slow and jerky when downshifting. Also the V6 has noticeable turbo lag and is lacking below 2000rpm. It’s Avery disappointing powertrain for a luxury car...

[@ZaDude1970]

The very annoying creaks in the center console on a practically like new A8 are all alone a deal breaker for this class of luxury saloons!

[@kobusvanschalkwyk108]

These guys opinion differs from other international opinions.

[@mjqail8067]

Yawn, can someone please wake me up when they have an interesting review

[@zakelwe]

The rear headrest in the BMW looks like it has been hit by the oversize and ever more cartoon like huge front grill of the Audi.

[@woutervanes3533]

I think when just looking to what a car is supposed to do...driving, the BMW is better car. I think the hype with the screens and (too) clean Audi interiors is really annoying as driving is just much worse in the Audi. Good review in my view.

[@chriscoyle2327]

Sorry, The A8 basher moment is at 1:17 to be exact. My inattention to detail and inaccuracy means I should expect a call from Autocar any day soon.

[@dernawey]

I thought the Audi would be the winner. It seems that the A8 in all its history it never beat the main challengers. Good for BMW, but I put my money for the A8 Audi

[@thabeloguide8735]

What’s funny is that,the guy who was driving the a8 was talking all the bad things about it only,and the guy on the bmw was talking good things about it only,it was very biased!!!!!

[@maxkoll118]

Both amazing ! + Mercedes S class

[@komentierer]

The 7 Series looks like a 10 year old car, outside and inside. Every other journalist who reviewed the A8 was raving about how great the steering was... I think you guys have been relying on throwing around audi stereotypes a bit too much in this video, especially since you said the complete opposite on your own website! Also, you don't have to touch a "tiny touchscreen button" to change the temperature, you can literally use the entire right half of that massive 8 inch screen to change the drivers temperature by swiping up or down.

[@antoniobenson5684]

Thank you BMW 7 to you all.

[@jspope2008]

How is it that you are the only person who says the ride is not superb on the A8. Everyone else says it’s even better than the S Class!

[@allenfu9759]

S class: what the heck are you guys talking about? 😄😄

[@mnjislam]

I have had my 2017 BMW 750i for 2years now, simply the best daily driver ever. The ultimate driving machine truly…

[@antashton8784]

Dull question I know but what MPG does it average please? 0:00

[@utb8536]

all specialized press says the new a8 is net superior to the 7th series, you say exactly the opposite ... what should i understand ?? honestly i will not believe u,sorry!

[@anthony0johnson]

Don't believe him, he is taking out of his ass, just watch any 2018 A8 review and you'll see what I Mean.

[@kwasinsiah1724]

Its a base V6 Audi vs a well specced BMW. Not a fair comparison.