2013 Hyundai Genesis Coupe 3.8 Track vs 2013 Ford Mustang V6 Performance Package

[@PikKillcam]

With removing the speed limiter, you also have to upgrade the driveshaft. The V6 has a weak shaft from the factory that breaks at 120 mph, hence the limiter. With a solid set of gears, a driveshaft, and a nice tune, these cars can seriously move.

[@DANKrONE42]

At the end of the day, the Genesis beat the Mustang. The *HYUNDAI* (former laughing stock of the car community) beat the *FORD*. You got to give Hyundai some props...

[@TheFreshPeddler]

But they didnt. The genesis rivaled the gt in cost. Thats the problem. Still a pat on the back to hyundai for the genesis, minus the sloppy shifter as a reminder that its still a hyundai. It should have been an easy fix before the first production run but im not sure they ever addressed it. They are def not up to par with ford where fit and finish is concerned but they also dont have a long history of performance cars. Now in the used market the price difference might evaporate, idk. Def easier to search for mustangs though, obviously.

[@FatalFist]

@@TheFreshPeddler It kind of seems like Genesis have gone up in value simply because they don't make them anymore, the car has developed a cult following. Thanks almost in part with FRS and BRZs that have had more accidents, the Genesis tends to hold more value than its competitors during that time. Where as Mustangs just tend to sell for a lot regardless, they're Ford after all.

[@sugerhitman1295]

@@FatalFist They have gone up in values....I was looking at Carvana and the 3.8 Genesis Coupe is up there with mustang 5.0s in price.

[@EricFortuneJr.]

@@sugerhitman1295 That’s because you were looking on Carvana. Most places like that are overpriced anyway.

[@sugerhitman1295]

@@EricFortuneJr. True. On average theyre like a grand over the market price...but some of their cars are less than the market price. But let me tell you the ease and service they provide.... totally worth it.

[@MrAnonymousRandom]

If the V8 in the Genesis sedan becomes an option, the Genesis coupe will be able to fully compete with muscle cars.

[@dvojevodavoditti]

well your wishes came true

[@projectocamero7502]

@@dvojevodavoditti when lol ?

[@fireblade274]

@@dvojevodavoditti um, no they actually did not... genesis coupe was discontinued in 2016... you must be referring to the genesis sedans

[@sugerhitman1295]

@@fireblade274 They're probably waiting until their cult following increases...Look for the Genesis Coupe to make a return.

[@BasquiatWvrhol]

I’ve owned both v6 stang and genesis and I’d have to say trading in for the genesis was the best decision I’ve ever made.

[@4gegtyreeyuyeddffvyt]

You republicans are racist scumbags and capitalist pigs 🐷

[@fletcherhi131]

@@4gegtyreeyuyeddffvyt ooga booga

[@Sant111mf]

@@4gegtyreeyuyeddffvyt i mean ur right but this guy was chill the other ones in the comments tho poop their pants if u tell them they wrong

[@Unb3arablePain]

I used to think the Genesis Coupe was a POS. Then I took a drive in one. Holy shit, that perception was blasted away. The car is fast, feels fast, and is fun too drive! If you look at the Ultimate, which is priced about $33k, it has some amazing features with it. I'm surprised you could get Nav, a 10 speaker HD audio system, full leather seats, and a great warranty for the price (some dealers offer free tires and oil for the car's life). It's the best value on the market today for a sports car. While I think the BRZ is great, it just lacks the value for the money. The Genesis is the most bang for your buck and I was surprised at the speed and luxury you get with it. Comparing the Mustang to this doesn't make much sense to me. While the Mustang will be the faster of the two (if we compare the 5.0L w/ performance since they're the same price), The Genesis is a performance blend like the Audi S5. You're paying for performance, practicality, and luxury all together. The Mustang has more speed and some of the same features, but it's nowhere near as practical or special as the Genesis. The 2015 Mustang Interior just felt old to me. Either way, I don't think you can go wrong with either car. It's just more about what fits your personality.

[@user-mv9ec5cq3y]

I couldn't agree more. A lot of people like to overlook all of that for some reason. I had ZERO intentions on buying a Genesis before I test drove one. Took it home that same night! It's amazing what Hyundai was able to do with this car at such an affordable price.

[@1anre]

Still hold the same opinion today?

[@Unb3arablePain]

^ Yes

[@coaxkeqc]

Unbearable Pain Still same opinion ? Im about to buy a 2015 R-spec.... Or might wait for that 3.3TT... :D

[@1anre]

almost coughed up cash to get a 350z but walked away as I'm over 6ft2 & heard it'll be too cramped for me. I'm currently looking at the 2005 G35 Infiniti Coupe, 2005 BMW E46 330i ZHP, 2005 Audi A4 1.8T & the 2004 BMW E39 540i. Still looking for a good daily driver car below $11,000 though.

[@Sean-fs6zm]

Why I picked a genesis 3.8 over a mustang v6. More power Build quality seemed superior Looks Steering Better alloys and tires Infinity sound Better warranty Cheaper financing. There are already 2 Stangs on my street. The sound of the stock exhaust system is intoxicating. Bare in mind my father was a Ford dealer.. Class A tech.

[@JUNOMAN]

Both cars are awesome , I give respect to Hyundai for stepping the game... but if you want a true american muscle car you gotta get the V8 IMO... not bad for genesis hopefully they put a V8 in the future

[@Jaylyons1]

It would be nice but it seems the world is going the opposite direction. :(

[@brycefleming3352]

@@Jaylyons1 here we are 5 years later guys and it seems like v6 turbos are now superior to v8s thumbs up if agreed?

[@MRDKastel]

Hyundai rocks!

[@TVinmyEye]

Hyundai has already discontinued the 2.0T. The 2.0T base was priced at 25k so now the V6 models are going to adopt that 2.0 price. While the up and coming V8 model will start around 30k. So now pricing will pretty much be identical to the stangs. Honestly the genesis looks way fucking better.

[@xuimod]

TVinmyEye I know looks are subjective but I think the Genesis coupe looks like crap. Its way too noisy in the front and back. By noisy I mean it has too many weird curves and lines on the front fascia and the back end tail light area.

[@cutsomeone]

Then what exactly is the mustang to you

[@xuimod]

charles banxton As far as appearance, I think the Mustang looks way better. Imo the Genesis is pretty damn ugly in general compared to most sports cars out there (370z, BRZ, Mustang, Camaro). But in general the Genesis is a better sports car than the Mustang. The Mustang just looks better (the V8 Mustang is a different story though).

[@bryane2514]

Been in both, the genesis definitely turns more heads!

[@ItsLy1e]

Bo Dangers I had a group of guys recording me in my Gen cause they thought it was an exotic or some shit. And when this twin turbo v6 Genesis comes out, you better have a Shelby if you even wanna be in the discussion.

[@gcxj220]

The verdict says it all: "Not only is the Hyundai Genesis Coupe a better and more luxurious daily driver. It's also the superior performance machine."

[@129Ed]

22k vs 33k with that 10k i could make the genesis admire my rear light all night, wait not even with 10k i think 6k will do it

[@gallardogenie03]

even with the 5.0 you cant forget the cars they are testing also have a track package and way more options than the basic mustang gt 5.0

[@SilverScarletSpider]

I love the styling on this mustang, but it’s true that Ford skimped our going old school in handling and suspension technology. All the money is in the motor. Overall, if I had a family and fun curvy roads in the neighborhood, Genesis Coupe. However just for the pure style and straight line performance this Mustang is gold.

[@TVinmyEye]

Just picked up a 2013 2.0t genesis , really puts a smile on your face

[@Lalo61955]

To be fair they are comparing a $33,000 car to a $26,000 car.

[@tomnguyen7178]

thats true, for 30k+ you would be driving a 5.0 with track pack instead of a v6

[@Jaylyons1]

Real-world pricing is even worse too. You can pick up a 2014 Mustang for $16k where the 3.8 would run you $25k+. 16k for a 300+ hp car is impressive! Then again, 25k for the 420hp 5.0 is more impressive!

[@Harmonic14]

Jay Lyons you can get an older 3.8 Genesis for like $12k... lol no point in comparing a used price to a new price

[@anthonya4048]

And, the mustang had the limiter on it. I am NOT saying that the mustang is faster/better if there was no limiter. I am just saying there would have been more accurate results

[@BACON-l3t]

@@anthonya4048 Thank you, for saying, it seems nobody was paying attention, but those who own one of these Mustang 3.7 performance pk V6, or anyone whose ever driven one knows other wise, that it's just as fast as the Genesis.

[@jamesd2277]

For everyone complaining about the Hyundai being more expensive, keep in mind they are comparing both cars because they are both V6s. The V6 Mustang is a base model Mustang, the V6 in the Hyundai is the premium model. If you want to compare prices, both base models are priced very close to each other. A V8 Mustang where I live is about $12000 more than the highest priced Genesis Coupe. If you're focusing on price, you need to compare apples to apples.

[@Jaylyons1]

Its another story where I live. You can get a base model 5.0 for $25k which is the same price as the Gen coupe also. Everyone and their mother has a Mustang though.

[@jamesd2277]

Just priced out a base model 5.0 on Ford's USA website. With absolutely zero options it priced out at $32000. Other countries like Canada they start at $41000. If you want to equip the Mustang with similar options that the Genesis has standard, $32000 becomes $40400.

[@brettb2701]

Hyundai is doing to the sport car field what Lexus did to BMW and Merc in 1990's

[@666ImI666]

Not a fair comparison the msrp of a 2013 mustang gt is closer to that of a genesis 3.8 and has 420 horsepower. A more fair comparison is with the genesis 2t vs the mustang v6. Honestly your video just seems like an add for hyundai who really need to step up there game in quality and reliability.

[@jayjaykapone4876]

i love track cars ...respect all ....ive always like the track gen....i drive a 13 boss 302 coming from a 03 cobra ...being on track with evos , sti, z06, m3 and gens etc..etc...everyone has something to bring to the table..its a great experience.

[@hectorfuji]

Jayjay Kapone My previous track car was a 03 cobra as well, only downside was overheating after a few laps. have a 20116 Genesis now. one I get to know it well will take it to the track as well. Up to know the car has not disappointed me, really love it.

[@broncoKING24]

it says in the description their both naturally aspirated engines. the 2.0 genesis has a turbo though. not the 3.8

[@gomezalejandrog]

I laugh at anyone dissing the Mustang at this point. This is Fords ENTRY coupe vs Hyundai's HIGH END model. If anything it shows how amazing the Mustang became!

[@TFlowie1096]

Well they are both very good cars.. But here is no point to think like that brother. Hyundai at some point will move their V8 (that already use on their higher-end models) to these models probably and it will be very close or even equal to the naturally aspirated V8 variant of the new Mustang.. Now if u say about supercharger/turbo types we move on topics as well... But now as thing stands I dont see a problem with either car.. As a true enthusiast and car lover I would say whatever sports car u pick right now it will give u lots of smiles whatever brand.. People like to bitch about everything like little boys about their little toys. But for me naaah I really enjoy them all.... Lovely cars bro moving on and take care~

[@affinity3281]

Well the Mustang Perf Package has 3.31 gears too which they didn't mention. It's not exactly base model, but still the test was not really fair. They should have flashed the Mustang to remove the speed limiter and improve throttle response. The input lag is awful. My first mods will be tuner (91 or 93 octane tune), adjustable panhard, and lowering springs to remove body roll.

[@kevin122759]

The new Mustang is even better. What I am impressed with is the tire size. Mustang has a wider tire then my 06 gto.

[@eriks82]

+Copenbro If you remove the speed cap you need to drop a one piece drive shaft into it. That's why it's capped -- stupid two piece drive shaft from Ford.

[@affinity3281]

eriks82 Yea I know about the drive shaft issue. I guess I could still get a tune without a new DS as long as I keep it under 120.

[@samyish]

The camera work on this video was superb!

[@NinoNlkkl]

Hey mom. Look, its a mustang v6. Looks just like yours.

[@carlhansen9512]

and how do those lap times compare with the limiter removed from the Mustang?

[@deans_used_car_lot]

33 gs for a v6 haundai or a v8 mustang? ill take a v8

[@818silencer818]

The Track and R-Spec models feature track-tuned spring, damper and stabilizer bar settings. Available camber adjustment bolts let drivers make additional suspension tuning changes. There's a rear Torsen limited-slip differential that guarantees better control and acceleration out of tight corners. Sticky, staggered fitment performance tires on 19-inch Euroflange dark graphite-finish alloy wheels. And higher performance Brembo brakes. Entry model Genesis is not the same as a Track model.

[@RayLaskyOutdoors]

Subaru lies about its 0 to 60 times. They claim sub 5 seconds and 13.3 1/4. I have seen several hundred stock runs at the Strip at lvms and have yet to see a sub 14 second run. That's why the company is almost out of the American market.

[@frankwhite2132]

The reason you saw bad runs was because they were bad drivers. Anybody can take there car to the track, I've seen fast cars get bad times. Subaru testers know what there doing. Just because people at the track can't get those times doesn't mean the car can't.

[@FocusFanaticSES]

The reason people keep saying that the mustang is limited to 120 mph is because of the final drive gear ratio or the 3.31:1 i believe. Meaning that it is faster off the line. The bad thing about that is that you cannot have both off the line acceleration and good top speed. The Performance Pack Mustangs come with that Limited Slip Diff with 3:31 gears that make it a great accelerating car after a turn giving it that sport car feel, but are compromising top speed to 115-120 mph.

[@globfly]

You forget to mention that mustang will spend most of its life in the shop for repairs of one thing or another, they don't call the car fix or repair daly for no reason

[@peepfishes2]

If I'm not mistaken, I believe the limiter is because of the aluminum drive shaft. I've heard that it can "warp" and "blow up" at speeds over 125mph. Just something to think about.

[@MrXboxUser]

I just like the modern look of the genesis. I have an 07 mustang and I want either a 2014 Focus ST or a Genesis 3.8. Probably the ST for the price

[@vroomgc]

I agree the ST is a good option too ... I want to see if they bring out a newer MS3 also.

[@xBirdManDriZZyx7]

Only problem is torque steer and unsdersteer, watch out and maybe consider the new golf r or wrx

[@marsenault9683]

of if you want something that won't break don't consider the subbie or vdub...:P

[@vroomgc]

***** Ive heard that before about the Subbie's

[@MelodeathMassacre]

I've got a '13 Genesis 3.8 track. I can't compare to the other rigs listed but it still surprises me after over a year. Rear wheel drive just offers something pure. And you could probably get into a used 2013 for around 18. They're a blast

[@VaunShiz]

Ive driven both, and the power band on that V6 mustang is odd when in the Genesis it just feelings always there, and even feels faster then it is, and the dash board isnt high up and kinda in your face like the mustang.

[@theesgares1124]

This test is redundant, the price difference between the V6 Genesis is closer to the V8 Mustang than it is to the V6 Mustang. The Genesis is a nice car i don't doubt it, but anyone in the market for either of these cars won't be using this video to decide it.

[@pedropedrosoy9890]

Another Fan boy in pain?

[@akamco]

You should know that cars aren't put in classes by price, lol. They are put in class by performance, and these two cars have similar performance, the genesis being greater.

[@black2011gt]

Yeah 33k for a Hyundai fuck no. I paid 33 for my GT premium track pack.

[@iDeviceMoDifications]

The V8 Mustang of similar price won't give you all the goodies inside though. So the Genesis is the better daily driver for the money.

[@black2011gt]

I disagree 100%

[@HomicidalToast1]

i think people are just mad because they don't want to admit something not built in the USA could possibly be better than an american made vehicle. Not to mention Hyundai offers one of the best warranties i have seen on any brand.

[@KevinKevinGame]

Throw in a one piece draft shaft in the mustang and a tune and its a totally different story

[@everett8811]

Throw some upgrades on the genesis and its a totally different story too. Lol the point is that stock the Genesis is the better car.

[@alxtgee1]

Scorpio1988 It's also several thousand dollars more expensive.

[@eriks82]

+Scorpio1988 Not really. The only reason that the Mustang is speed capped is a stupid design decision by Ford. The fact it's programmatically capped should clue people in that there's more power actually there. It's not a good comparison, period.

[@mrmeman98]

completely invalid statement

[@iDrive4fun93]

alxtgee1 not really, the dealership where I live sold track models in the mid 20s. MSRP is rarely what the car is sold for.

[@Dave91z0]

Some of you guys do not understand. The reason why the Hyundai Genesis Track is $33,000 is because it leaning towards the luxury sports car niche. Look I get, I know the Mustang is cheaper but its cheaper because it doesn't have all the nice bells and whistles the Genesis has. They even put the performance package on the Mustang that would make it into costing a little over $26,000. Just because the cabin of the mustang is "economy" doesn't mean it's any different than the premium Mustang.

[@MrCaraccident]

the 3.8 genesis can keep up with the mustang gt just upgrade the intake and put premium puts out 370

[@FaigMasimov]

+Trace Buck thanks. I will

[@Petchyalater]

370 horsepower? They don't make 300 to he wheels stock. A gt will run all over a Genesis

[@MrCaraccident]

Aparently yall dont have one, and ive owned a gt plus corvette. Learn your info before you speak. And a proper tune helps. But yeah a stock genesis is slower

[@MrCaraccident]

Plus the rating is 348 hp man use google for fucks sake

[@Blade9631]

I have a 2014 GT and I have driven, and raced many Genesis's. They are good, sure. But up there with GT's and alike? lmao no not even.

[@59summerset]

Genesis 3.8 w/ Track package is 33,895 Mustang GT w/ Track package is 34,000 Which one do you think would go faster round a track?

[@black2011gt]

If the limiter was removed on the Mustang it would probably match the time of the Genesis. A tuner costs $300 and it adds like 20hp so you would save like 10 grand and have the better looking car. The Genesis looks ok all black but I couldn't justify paying 30 grand for a Hyundai.. or any amount for any Hyundai,

[@carnivore74]

And 30g grand for a POS ford is justified? LOL, hyundai's are built much better than any ford these days!

[@black2011gt]

Don't just say that, show some evidence to back it up. They take the suspension of the Raptor and the Boss302 pretty seriously, really any Ford? If you show me some evidence I'll be right there with you saying "yep Hyundais are built better" Just like I would have to say BMW are built better, because I have seen videos of BMW's beyond state-of-the-art factory, and that's the truth and there's no getting around it.. What you're saying about Ford being POS and all that is just hearsay.

[@hotblume]

carnivore74 Lmao POS? You've obviously never driven a 2011+ mustang they are not a POS. I didn't say its the best car but its not a POS.

[@brucec43]

Brand conscious, are we?

[@hotblume]

Patrick Ryan OKAY did I say ford is better then hyundai? no. i said ford a ford mustang is not a POS...

[@Alphonse2120]

An honest review would have pitted the Gensis 2.0 against the V6 Mustang...since they cost about the same. But the reviewers admitted how terrible the Genesis 2.0 handled(strong understeer) and how underpowered it was, that is wouldn't even be worth comparing it. Not to mention, the Mustang is far better looking.

[@FaigMasimov]

fucking Genesis :))) couple days ago when a chinese (genesis 3.8 owner) realized that my mustang is v6, started to race with me. damn , I could hardly catch up with him 30,40 HP difference is not a joke lool

[@AutoNowledge]

So I just want to make sure I understand? - The Genesis Coupe is the Top-Most model going at $33,000 (Track Spec/MT) - The Mustang is the V6 Premium going for 29,090 (V6 Premium w/ Performance Pack) Why did you get a Base Mustang GT, No premium? - 32,500 with the GT Track Package. Why? - The mustang you reviewed is a V6. Not the V8. - It's more equal price-wise. 33k vs 32k not 33k vs 29k.

[@XXMETAL4LIF3XX]

coulda had a v8

[@ThomasRocks22]

YOu have to understand not everyone wants to go super duper fast.....

[@XXMETAL4LIF3XX]

ThomasRocks22 i DO understand that , just sayingggg

[@TheBarlow27]

Haha why buy a sports/muscle car if you don't wanna go fast 😂

[@bougelaal]

tyler barlow v6's aren't slow

[@cutsomeone]

ThomasRocks22 kinda pointless otherwise don't you think?

[@prestondavis544]

I would have loved to see a Hyundai Equus go up against a Selby Mustang 😮

[@turbosrt9642]

I see they ignored the fact the Mustang is significantly cheaper yet just a tick behind in performance. A simple tune would make them even and all for thousands less. Sensing biast here.

[@marcel44967]

You'll most likely get a deeper discount on the Hyundai since it's not as popular. Hyundai only sells one Genesis to 10 Mustangs.

[@turbosrt9642]

19DaRiO95 That was ignorant to say. Whereas I am not a big fan of the Mustang this V6 is still capable of running 13.7 in the quarter mile which is pretty quick for 22 grand. In the states the V8 is completely out of range in price to most americans so it makes even more sense to own it. Wouldnt be my choice but stupid to underestimate it.

[@bdmr_isf]

turbosrt9642 well here in switzerland you get a mustang for about 34'900 bucks new, about the same price as a new genesis coupe 3.8. so of course i would take the genesis. the genny has the better suspension and more horsepower for the same price so why would i take the mustang? i like the V8 tho, but if i had that much money i would probably buy a supra.

[@turbosrt9642]

19DaRiO95 As you can see here the Genesis is far more money. Both are good cars.

[@bdmr_isf]

turbosrt9642 yeah in the U.S ;) in fucking switzerland everything is expensive tho...

[@GregRS3]

I might be wrong but I believe the v6 model and the GT share the same DS... Which is rated to 155 MPH (+/- 5MPH). My speed limiter is set at 145 to avoid the danger zone (key music).

[@JavierGarcia-wt3xr]

Did you also know that when you attempt to assert and tie up your masculinity through your choice of automobile (instead of appreciation of style, engineering, etc.) that it makes you appear fragile and weak?

[@GabrielGuzmanMM3]

Have fun in your PT Cruiser

[@aka1mite]

😂😂 I'm telling you I'm having fun reading the comments

[@spillow762]

So the weight figure of 3389 lbs for the Genesis (1:11) is completely made up? No other resource posts this weight for the 3.8 track model.

[@claudexlucien]

Why do people keep comparing v8 to v6? Compare the gt with a corvette or something...they aren't even meant to be compared with the v6 versions...coulda had a v8...coulda had a 5.8...over the 5.0...just saying.

[@stevennunez8141]

at the track of willow speings the mustang v6 with track pack did 129.09 the genesis r spec 129.12 ,genesis r spec v6 did a 128.71, motortrend

[@pdavid24]

If I were to buy a mustang, I'd just spring for the v8.

[@818silencer818]

That Genesis Track model costs $33,000 while a Mustang GT costs $30,900. Tell me again why they're comparing it to the V6 Mustang?

[@DoomsdayMelody91]

30k puts that genesis coupe in GT territory... I think a coyote would eat this thing alive. Don't get me wrong I respect hyundai for what they are doing, but the mustang is nearly 10k cheaper than that genesis coupe as far as price is concerned these cars aren't very compatible.

[@FallsFait]

DoomsdayMelody91 Hyundai lovers don't like to think about the price difference.

[@JSHolyDiver]

DoomsdayMelody91 No chance could a Genesis stang up to a Coyote.. not stock anyways I would have to agree 100%

[@DoomsdayMelody91]

I mean I'm not hating on the Genesis, I actually quite like them but they definitely need to check their price point.

[@computerized01]

It says the Mustang GT base is $31,545 on Ford's website. Where are you getting $26k?

[@geoexchange12]

I bought a Mustang V6 after doing laps in a Ferrari 458 behind one. Absolutely no way I could pass him. I could get to his bumper, but that was it. Yeah, he was a professional driver (and I'm good but not THAT good), but if y'all think you can drive the V6 Mustang to it's limit, then you should be getting paid to drive for a team with sponsors... Those laps also made me realize that I don't need 500hp to go fast - my little V6 Mustang - with a good driver, will beat a 500hp with a novice driver any day. And get 30mpg. And cost less to put on the track. And less insurance. And....

[@ItsLy1e]

Jay Hammond If you couldn't pass a v6 mustang in a 458 Italia you shouldn't be anywhere near a track.

[@geoexchange12]

Lyle Hudson Yeah, I bet you could have passed him.

[@ItsLy1e]

If you had said a Boss 302, i would have believed you. Hell, even the 420 hp GT. But a v6 stang? 😂

[@geoexchange12]

Lyle Hudson I'll post a link to my video. How about yours passing the pace car? Extreme Experience driver, Jolliett Illinois Autobahn track. As I said, I bet you wouldn't pass him.

[@scuds03]

Jay Hammond Even if you have no skill you just match their braking and corner speed then just pass when accelerating out of the turn...

[@hayesavra250]

Hell yea. I have had my Gen coupe for 4 years its amazing. Blows the doors off everyone.

[@mrthebillman]

Change out the drive shaft, disengage the governor, and the Mustang would smoke it in the straights.

[@charlesc.3630]

You do know the genesis has a speed limiter of 150 , it can go up to 180 without problems. Mustang is shit quality that's why they have the governor on of 130...

[@fungaming4k]

Charles C. mustang gov. at 130mph - my mustang is not - it hits 190 easy and then some- but then its Shelby . not shit

[@charlesc.3630]

Corey Bruno of course it can its a 50+ grand car. You are comparing apples to oranges here, we are OBVIOUSLY talking about the v6 model here

[@fungaming4k]

And the inline 4 mustang hit s 142 mph . . So just USA gov. Bullshit. Just like most German cars gov. At 155 mph any who my point is none of these cars are shit. So don't hate

[@gomezalejandrog]

Charles C. like I said before, you are comparing Hyundai's top end coupe to Ford's entry level daily driver meant coupe, a rental car. I call bullshit on the Genesis going anywhere above 155. No way that is even physically possible. Now you want to compare cars within the same price range, compare it against the GT, and it would beat the Genesis even in the gas mileage department. The Genesis is beat here, this review, if anything, just makes Fords new 2011+ Mustang V6 shine.

[@KobraLink]

...lol All the premium trim adds is looks and some comforts for around 26k. The Genesis has a track pack witch add all the track performance enhancements. Just because they both cars have a V-6 it does not mean they are on the same league.

[@silvershock82]

The nose of the genesis from 2009-2012 was way better looking. This front is ugly.

[@richardsavoie2857]

I thought that at first but purchased my 2103 (I almost did not get it for this reason). After a couple months of seeing several earlier models around town, I'd have to say mine is much nicer. The front end at first looks chunky, but it screams performance and makes the older models look so vanilla in comparison.

[@derrickyoung40]

Richard Savoie 2103? Damn, that's crazy. Is it like a concept or something? How'd you get your hands on that.

[@richardsavoie2857]

Derrick Young LOL... That's why the hover kit won't fit! It's only a 2013.

[@Venusfruit44]

Agreed

[@istishhadi]

gotta love how these automakers/auto analysts tell you HP/Torque numbers without mentioning whether its @ the crank or the wheels. Realisticly there is no way a naturally aspirated vehicle like that can create huge HP numbers at the wheels. This is definately rated @ the crank.

[@carnivore74]

genesis all the way! Mustangs are soooo cheaply made, it's laughable!

[@black2011gt]

Really? that cheaply made? United auto workers that much worse than Korean sweat shop kids? damn.

[@supermon99]

black2011gt korean sweat shop kids work way more fucking harder than united auto gay and you know it too bitch

[@katanaben1]

I've had two brand new Hyunday in 2001 and 2005 and NEVER AGAIN.

[@Jaylyons1]

Honestly, the genesis is pretty cheaply made as well. They are both about on par there.

[@ryanbabakhani5150]

lol piece of shit hyundai fan talking about hyundai having quality now THAT's laughable

[@daveyboy8320]

Well, I think there's a 3.8 model of the genesis right? Either way, I would thing that it would be pretty lopsided the other direction with both premium models.

[@joeburke8214]

What a joke , Genesis has 50 more horse , weighs 150lbs less and has no top speed limit!!! Genesis runs 135 at times on track while Mustang is limited to 120 and YOU CALL THAT FAIR???? lolol Mustang anyday over that Hyundai.

[@over1498]

+Joe Burke Fair? What's your point, that the Genesis is better in almost every possible way, so it's not fair to compare them?

[@joeburke8214]

+dsid1127 Yeah fair , How about we compare the Genesis to the Mustang GT? The GT is ONLY 60 more horse , of course the GT would walk all over that Hyundai. Would you call that fair ???? I DIDNT THINK SO

[@over1498]

+Joe Burke The whole point of this comparison is price range. How about I take a Z06 against your Mustang GT? we could go on like that forever, but if I'm getting a coupe under $30k, im taking the Hyundai... and trust me, I never thought I'd say something like that

[@joeburke8214]

+dsid1127 That test Hyundai was $33k , the Mustang $26k . The Genesis actually at 33k should be up against the Mustang GT cost wise. BOGUS comparison

[@alawadhi3000]

+Joe Burke The 3.8 Ultimate add nothing performance wise to the R-Spec, so you can get an R-Spec for $29K and actually gain a bit of performance because it weights 80lb less than the Ultimate.

[@sebastienh78]

Thanks, but that's not my Mustang in this video, It's just the nice V6 of you tube mate. Me I drive a 2012 Boss 302, it's on my chanel if you want to take a look and hear it roar, but unfortunatly no track video. I tried it last summer and post a good 12:28 pass bone stock with only drag tire. Of course the standard 3:73 torsen gear, adjustable damper and 444hp 7500 rpm screaming V8 engine of the Boss 302 helped me a lot!

[@rockerjakerful]

Mustangs are the shittyest sports cars built today!!!!¡¡¡¡¡!!!!!

[@black2011gt]

Mustang sales numbers are a little too high for this to make sense but ok

[@yuning83]

Just let you know, I bought a Hyundai and a Kia brand new 2009, and 2010. One had blown engine the first year and was replaced under warranty, one had blown engine the first year and replaced with engine parts. I currently still own the 2, plus 2 Hondas, 2 audis, 1 bmw, and a dodge. All bought new, none had blown engine. One of the audi had a injector problem and was replaced under warranty in the 2nd year of ownership.

[@CueBall909]

The premium model Mustang is $2K less than the R-Spec Hyundai, and over $5K less than the as-tested Genesis. That's nearly a 20% premium in price. So, while both drivers agree that the Hyundai is better overall, is it 20% better?

[@hangman161]

I think its more to do with the fact that a 500hp engine will easily do those speeds but no one wants to engineer tires, body panels, crash systems, etc. because no one really needs it, but if they sell a car that will do more than those speeds, then they need to guarantee and test all those componenents up to those speeds. WIth a veyron, ppl understand if the tires wear out in 12 minutes at top speed, not in their reg cars, though.

[@stevennunez8141]

yes you're right about the mustang gt and all it's accessories, but genesis is'nt supposed to compeat with gt is it now. anyway's you can get all of that in a mustang v6 for under 27 grand right around where the base v6 genesis starts and for the r spec you cant even have navigation,but if going for the r spec would you really need it

[@fordgtguy]

30+ MPG with 305 hp isn't a bad combination even more so when you get S/C it for 450+ hp and have a lighter car than the GT.

[@stevennunez8141]

I can only assume that you are talking about me and im not a big mustang fan, But the truth is that a car in this type of pedigree is proven on the track. I also think you should go and reread my comments and it is only worth mentioning that the genesis is the only car that has been revised performence wise compaired to it's competition.

[@hangman161]

I'm shocked... this comment of urs actually makes sense... I'm blown away... APPLAUSE PLEASE!

[@tomanderson5863]

Mr Patrick but you fail to mention that your 5.0 Track has nothing inside... add leather seats, infinity stereo, brembo brakes, etc and your 5.0 would be more like 40,000.

[@jakal911]

2.0L yes. They were testing the 3.8L engine.

[@johnalvarado1337]

so should we also compare the GTR to these cars since its also a v6

[@Arcticarc1]

Obviously most people here probably can't read. it ISN'T the base mustang model. it's the 26k perfomance model. Yeah it is lower than the 33K...but if you add the leather and stuff (that the genesis has) on the mustang as well, it goes about the same.

[@zaior3684]

The model mustang that they used is worth $29,900 if you don't believe me go to the ford website and build it with the options they said they put it. So don't act like the two they used were huge differences in price

[@Terran994]

I'd like to correct Dave Pratte. The 120mph limiter isn't due to power. Ford built the V6 with a driveshaft that anything over 120 and the driveshaft breaks apart. Put an aluminum drive shaft and redo the review

[@trehsu]

The genesis R spec is, however, a substantial amount more than a v6 mustang with the performance pack. Like 4 or 5 grand more.

[@jb2billion]

If you are comparing lap times why would you not buy a cheap tuner and remove the speed limiter on the mustang? No way you can accurately compare lap times with the speed limiter.

[@grant6730]

It's called a Consumer Reports. They take the reports from the actual owner of the car. It's as true as it can be.

[@TooManyChoices1]

2013 with 50HP increase was a 3:13.9. The 2011 V6 mustang did a 3:12.5 as it ran against its 113mph limiter for like 15 seconds a lap. The Genesis can't even beat the 2011 V6 mustang, just wait until the 2015, 50th anniversary V6 goes direct injection. This is the only advantage(and they still lost) that the Hyundai will have. PS- the Mustang was faster in the 1/4 mile than the new 2013 Genesis coupe too.

[@razorfett147]

Problem with this comparison is that the Mustang V6 is designed to be a compromise for those that don't want to spring for the GT model. As such, it is NOT the Mustang's performance model...the Genesis Coupe 3.8, on the otherhand, IS a performance model. This would be like comparing a base Civic with an Evo...just because they are both powered by 4 cylinder motors. It's stupid.

[@tihstae1028]

The point is not about motor sizes. It's about price level & intended performance. The Genesis is supoosed to be competeing at the pony car level with Camaro SS & Mustang GT, even though SS & GT are V8. SS, GT, & Genesis are all the same price range. The Mustang V6 isn't a performance level car like the SS, GT, or Genesis. Mustang V6 is for everyday driving with little or no intent of being performance. If Ford wants to they can put DI & turbo (EcoBoost) on their 3.7L V6 and easily get 400hp

[@stevennunez8141]

If you won't be mature and have a reasonable converstion i will not comment back, but if your intrested please go look up the event which will start again in early 2014. The cars are also all running the same tire by the way and all gs (large six cylinder or v8 powered coupes) st(compact cars) all receive slotted and vented rotors stock pads and stronger caliber because oem will bend ,brake cooling upgrades ajustable shock's everything eles is stock and of course a roll cage.

[@RHamill7]

Im a Hyundai certified technician and I see a LOT of similarities between Fords and Hyundai's. Look at the body styles between the 2. Also the engines are almost identical.

[@Itsjorgeharo]

A lot of people don't have a heavy foot or that crave for power, but would still like the style of a mustang and enjoy cruising in one. Plus that new v6 isn't a chump either,305 hp is plenty of power for a normal person.

[@guitarist1990]

Your Cobra is in a different league. I could say the same about an Evo with an HTA30/35 slapped on it tuned on E85. Hyundai is making a new name for itself over the past few years, and it's people like you that make it impossible for them to really get a good reputation. It makes almost 350bhp. It uses direct injection (which Ford didn't adopt until recently, in fact, the 2014 5.0 mustang will be the first one with it. Ford is a big company with decent cars. Doesn't mean Hyundai can't compete.

[@debraelaine47]

read some previous comments there are spec's shown for the v6 gen and stang from a reliable source motor trend

[@jermayne16]

Im about to buy a car but im torn between getting the Hyundai coupe or Infiniti g35 coupe any suggestions?

[@RayLaskyOutdoors]

Just got the ford 25k with performance package and tech package! Just took a mountain road marked 40 caution corner over 90 no slide out or body roll

[@IXxEatDaPooPooXxI]

to who says the genesis is cheaper, its almost 10,000 more. And the genesis was fully upgraded and for the price you payed you could of got a gt, and i would love to see those track times.

[@redblackstripe]

very fair evaluation, take that limiter off the mustang and i think the speed factors would be much closer, but with a $7,000 difference in price for the models the mustang could definitely add some sweet mods to kick it out a lot better. overall really nice. still love my mustang though

[@darkmaster1616]

It has nothing to do with comparing a Mustang or a Hyundai. When you are comparing something, you want to make both sides of the comparison fair. What's the comparison here? That they both have four wheels?

[@yaknow11]

My goodness will someone give Dave an adrenaline shot. Is he giving a review of cars or appraising antics?

[@diez0305]

fucking thank you. these people are trying to compare a 22k vs. a 33k car then complain that it's unfair that "you can buy a gt for less", plus the fact that the hyundai has a turbo

[@terranceparker8990]

What's the price of the performance pack?

[@spyfox258]

It is in the genesis, but not the coupe. the test is about a v6 vs v6 some people want the performance but not have really bad millage so they go for a v6 there's nothing wrong with that.

[@rickygarcia2809]

Do you have a video of your 550whp Subaru?

[@VaunShiz]

actually one of my good friends has a Focus ST and the eco boost is great, that car tears around streets, as well as the Taurus SHO, it halls, Eco boost has been a huge success, and your comment on the design, everyone on the planet can see the similarities between the new fords and European cars like Aston Martin. They are fords with ford badges, just because they are styled like European cars just means they are finally good looking. its not a bad thing, actually learn things first