AWACS KILLER | SU-30SM Flanker-H INTERCEPT | F-15 Eagle | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

APEX PCs: apexpartner.app/redirect/Growling-Sidewinder Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ Took a couple days off there for some family time but we're back today with some AWACS killer rounds, thank you guys for watching and if you have ideas for more videos people comment them in the comment section and maybe we can do a video with your idea. Much Love.

[@hkguitar1984]

Average cost of a single crew F-15 Eagle is $44 Million, cost of a AWACS with crew of 15 to 24 Flight Crew and Mission Specialist is $270 Million, Job well done GS.

[@Miguelcooldude777]

Day 84 asking for F35C vs F/A-18F Super Hornet

[@DChrls]

Ya know what would make a great video, is if the FW 190 was to dogfight the Bf 109 and then the F4U to battle a Spitfire. 😃👉😃👍 👈😃 Mr. Owl said he would take time off from finding out how many licks it takes to get to the center of a Tootsie Roll Tootsie pop to watch that video.🦉

[@amogusimposter3995]

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[@CaptainBiggles.]

Totally right you should have some family time :) Please do M-2000C vs SU-57, as they are both really dominant 1-circle fighters and I'd like to see what the M2000 can do against it. Thanks :)

[@bb-bricks3040]

"We're keepin this guy busy so the AWACS should be getting away" *cuts to awacs getting obliterated*

[@SupaMan2122]

People who signed up for air force “please not AWACS please not AWACS”

[@bb-bricks3040]

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[@palehorseman9923]

"Yeah, defeated that one...it is just me and him now." *_*BWOOP BWOOP*_* as the missile reacquires him. Who knew that AWACS Killers had such great comedic timing?

[@phvisser13]

Yep Growling Sidewinder keeping it true to form here. :)

[@abrahamnotfear3691]

Sacrificing a pilot's life for AWACS ....i really appreciate it

[@magiscichoam]

Your battle commentary is informative and ultra classic. Your channel is “clutch”!!! Bravo!

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thank you very much, very kind of you. Much Love.

[@prodigalsoniv48]

Love to see a an Ace Combat-esc scenario where you and Longshot choose any plane and take on tons of fighters that are not as good as yours. Fox 2's only :)

[@razorback139]

Air Combat... Without SP WPs. Just missiles and guns

[@BARONWODENRIC]

@@razorback139 Ace Combat 2 has no sp

[@taw1967]

Wouldn’t the AWACS be able to see the SU-30 before it got into range and then inform the F-15 where to start looking for a pre-emptive shot?

[@AlenB29]

If the sukhoi was flying really low i doubt it

[@georgemitchell2288]

It wouldn't made a difference since the f-15's fox3 weren't of sufficient range to cause the SU-30 to change his tactics.

[@donavan835]

Doesn't make any difference in the engagement even the Americans knew where the Su-30 is, the AWACs killer reaches the Americans first. That's what stand off advantage is all about

[@gopniksaurolophus6354]

@@AlenB29 E-3s have historically been able to detect aircraft with RCS of similar size to the Su-30 at fairly low altitudes (think Desert Storm) so altitude wouldn't really mean much unless the Sukhoi is at treetop level in or near the Sentry's radar blindspot.

[@thedausthed]

There is also the fact that there is no way an F-15 is just going to fly in formation with an AWACS until given a task.

[@yuchungman]

I remember on Ace Combat Infinity these RVV-Ls are on SU-35s as 6AAMs, very fun spamming them against whatever it locks onto... And kinda looks badass toting all 6 of them under the wings

[@stolek6908]

Yea all that 350 6AAMs

[@timsullivan4566]

What an unusual but totally valuable mission - liked it a lor!

[@HeirofCarthage]

The range of the anti AWACS missile is interesting...did they have a fighter carrying a radar capable of shooting it from a stand off of that range? Or was the idea using a ground radar to feed info to the fighter for the launch? Gonna have to go read up on this one. Great video.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you, and yes I believe it was originally intended for the su35 and the su30 which I assume means their radars were enough. I think the 400km range on wikipedia is a little bit of hogwash to be honest, but thats the nature of wikipedia.

[@hosseinshahni]

It’s definitely more than 150, but unfortunately none of them have Parthian shot.

[@aviationrambler]

One thing I'd like to see is you do this in IMC. The favorable weather represents a very ideal situation. There are other additional factors as well such as various levels of jamming that could be implemented.

[@dsdy1205]

They're above the weather though. Or are you including night ops?

[@deadboy783]

Not always a lot of this fight happened on the deck he woukd have been in the weather for sure

[@timsullivan4566]

Not quite sure what it was that I just enjoyed... Was it the worst win... ... or the best fail ever? Thanks, G.S. for an intriguing mission !

[@W1ckedRcL]

This mission is really interesting and fun to watch. Should do some more. Also, Grinelli ST21 please..

[@dystopianlucidity4448]

A great and Nobel effort and sacrifice! The air crew about the awacs thank you for your sacrifice.

[@TheNamePi]

these bvr videos are great keep em up

[@viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476]

Damn that whole last part where you were 20 then 15 miles on the deck I was getting nervous cuz I saw there wasn’t much time left on the video and I knew it was only a matter of time till I heard that ziIIPPP BOOM

[@maitreytelang2312]

One of the best videos on the channel.

[@oscarzheng9902]

imagine if awacs have self defense capabilities, although the missiles won't be as effective, it could stall some time for fighters to engage it

[@MustangsCanTurnToo]

It does, it’s called mission planning.

[@Olabruh]

@@MustangsCanTurnToo 🤣

[@Daytonaman675]

Lmao - let’s load that duff up with some 260’s on quad racks and laugh.

[@THEdanrugaming]

If that laser technology gets adopted perhaps. Though it would be more akin to CIWS

[@spider_corsa]

It's always a technology race between the defense and the offense.

[@tmytyson]

I am once again asking for Battle of the Canards II: A battle royale between the SU30SM Flanker-H, Eurofighter Typhoon, Dassault Rafale, and JAS39 Gripen. May the best 'nard win.

[@davidsapir3764]

Crusher earned his call sign, damn! Great stuff.

[@billisaacs702]

I just wonder, wouldn't it have been smarter to have a tactical spread of say 10 miles out front of the AWACS, or whatever the expected threat axis was? That AWACS gives you a fantastic advantage in terms of SA, so why not take advantage of it?

[@jonathanpfeffer3716]

Actual tactics involve 3-4 spread of aircraft around the AWACS with wide distribution.

[@speed150mph]

Makes you wonder why you couldn’t have something akin to an Air to Air harm missile. Designed to home in on an aircrafts radar emissions, at least up to terminal phase homing where it could switch to radar or IR. Then you’d have an almost entirely passive missile, no active radar emissions to give the target even a hint that they are being targeted. You could engage at long range while maintaining complete emcon. I mean, I’m talking out my ass here, I don’t know if that would be possible, or if it’s done and isn’t common knowledge but still.

[@nozzel829]

This exists, R-27EP

[@rohangangan8327]

Bro Thanks for making the MIG29 Astra missile and Rudram missile videos like I requested!!! Indian Navy is looking to buy F18 Super Hornet Block 3 please make a video on F18 with Astra missiles!!

[@CowsR4me]

i got curious and looked up the crew evacuation plans for awacs. turns out the blowout hatches would typically destroy the test dummies and the idea of putting on a chute during a catastrophic disaster is not really feasible, so they just ride the plane down and hope for the best. brutal

[@viktor_v-ughnda_vaudville_476]

I’d love to see you fly a sukoi wether that’s an su-30 su-35 just to see you interesting perspective on those and what they are capable of similar to how you did with the viper and mig-29

[@RT42069]

He has in several videos

[@ex-subsailor3480]

Looks to me that if the AWACS is that critical, maybe more than one fighter escort is in order. I'd like to see this same vid play out using two F-15 escorts, might even out the odds a bit.

[@ricbish]

Nice Video GS, something different for a change and a great idea. Thanks for making the video and sharing it! Awesome stuff

[@fhpr68]

I really enjoy your videos, keep up the great work. But I think we need an F22 split throttle video.

[@RT42069]

Why not a F-35 or F-16 split thro--oh wait, never mind

[@Vanessaira-Retro]

When that Battlefield Theme kicks in. :D

[@tswims92]

I think this might be a job for the Aim-54. Also I’m curious if DCS has modeled the Tomcat radar/Phoenixes being able to lock and shoot down incoming cruise missiles.

[@BrianT175]

Indeed it appears they did. Growling did it in another scenario defending a fleet group.

[@theamericancommie727]

I feel like this would be more interesting with jammers, completely negating the stand off capability.

[@bluearmy6847]

Wish the AWAC could of give a heads up on the missile position, but it was far out of datalink, so you gave it your all till the end which I must say is still impressing.

[@nighpaw4651]

Would have loved a tacview

[@config2543]

@6:09. “Mission failed. We’ll get’em next time.” -Gaz

[@StromBugSlayer]

It seemed like the AWACs should have been telling you where he was from the start...

[@TacoSallust]

That's a helluva pyrrhic win.

[@Netbug]

Good thing the Sentry has ejection seats... the crew isn't cheap to train and of course their lives are worth something to their loved ones.

[@cleemccarthy1022]

they would send them back and make them drink the water at Camp LeJune...

[@beverlychmelik5504]

The AWACS doesn't have ejection seats.

[@aluminumrivet2142]

@@beverlychmelik5504 That's the joke bro.

[@krismurphy7711]

Demonstration of why latest version of F15 with a dozen AMRAAMS is a plus. Lob more missiles or fire in pairs

[@bossgunny4203]

When it comes to shooting at a Target remember they are radar guided missiles not info guided missiles. The closest thing I think we have to this are Tomahawks but they use satellite GPS and that doesn't work well for moving targets. The other thing being wire-guided torpedoes where you can guide the torpedo from the submarine as long as the wire is still connected but once the wires cut the torpedo is on its own.

[@thejasont847]

The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. 🖖🏻

[@doc7000]

I wish we had better information on the parameters for these new missiles as I am guessing they are too powerful in DCS world (this applies to all newer missiles as well as missiles classified due to their continued use).

[@murph3194]

well done. I thought you were going to live to tell the tale at the end of the 2nd round but....still a successful mission.

[@Ev0L5]

Thoroughly enjoy your videos!

[@bukhariali71]

That was really awesome to watch. F14 with Phoenix will make it even more interesting

[@ATP-Flo]

An F14 would see the bandit earlier and the missiles have longer range. But the Phoenix missiles are pretty stupid when you turn cold just after you fired them as GS always does with the AMRAAMs. AMRAAMs have way more intelligent guidance and track better. It would be interesting though.

[@timbaskett6299]

In my mind, the E-3 needs an escort that has a similar endurance, and capable of "volley fire" AIM-120Ds or AIM-260s. I'd vote for a B-21(B). Reduced visibility, and a large payload

[@rfb91a]

Flying formation on an AWACS wing,,, I assume you don't expect to have children..

[@Stinger522]

If that Flanker was packing R-37s, your mission would've been over before it even began. Great video. I'm still waiting for Tomcat Vs Typhoon BVR fight.

[@AlenB29]

I was kinda weirded out the flanker didnt have missiles to engage the escort lol yeeting awacs killers at the fighter is a bit weird

[@RT42069]

The Typhoon would likely win. They both have great radar and very long range missiles, but Phoenix missiles are much easier to dodge than Meteors.

[@AlenB29]

@@RT42069 idk man that huge radar on the tomcat is no joke what is it like 300 kilometers? Thats more than raptor lol

[@Stinger522]

@@RT42069 True. But it would still be fun to watch.

[@karjalasta]

Love this vid bro. Both informative and funny :)

[@mikegale1440]

I would have loved to see the F-14B armed with 4 Phoenix missiles, some A few AIM-120's and a couple of sidewinders.

[@mr_whyy]

I forgot how amazing this is !

[@SkywalkerExpress]

defending over flat terrain. a nightmare

[@viasulagro]

Resumo: há necessidade mais do que urgente de um míssil mais capaz do que o AIM-120... Com maior alcance e maior velocidade...

[@levidotson6610]

The awacs was in fact not getting away

[@kostaskoutsoulas4672]

Is it possible for a pilot to know in a real life scenario of a bvr fight that the missiles fired at him are this kind of missiles with huuuge range and not regular fox-3s? I had the same question in my mind when I was watching your previous video.

[@giantnanomachine]

Depends on the missile and RWR. If the missile hasn't switched on its own radar, no way to tell. If the RWR doesn't know about the signature of the missile's radar, again no way to tell. Unless some super-modern sensor packages can deduce the type of missile from the IR signature or from the launch plume, which I imagine would both be tremendously difficult to do.

[@kostaskoutsoulas4672]

@@giantnanomachine Thanks!

[@sety5591]

The airforce develop a standard procedure to combat each jet fighter from each nation using the available military intelligence. It meant the pilot will start defending or changing altitude at certain range from the enemy regardless of what their sensors didn't/couldn't detect. source: @Growling Sidewinder interviewed a French Rafale pilot and mentioned that pilot are forbidden from playing or discussing a BVR fight online.

[@kostaskoutsoulas4672]

@@sety5591 yes, I get that pilots follow some kind of "standard defence procedure" depending on the enemy, but it's not "normal" or standard for a bandit to fire these missiles at you so if gs in this video was defending as he would normally defend a Russian aircraft, he would be pulverised very fast (i think). That's how the question grew in my mind

[@tbdingle]

That su-30 did not move at all and never got touched by a missle 😂

[@JessidGallardo]

You should do the US vs Russia thing again but with the rule that you can't choose the same jet twice so it's more interesting. Do like 5 or 6 rounds so you can have different engagements. Also make it bandit unknown so you have to choose your jet carefully.

[@icaleinns6233]

That last one is called Taking One for the Team ...

[@macgyver186]

Looks like we need stealth awacs.

[@MrSourceMan]

Is such a thing even possible?

[@notaboutit3565]

@@MrSourceMan nope.

[@johnxina6823]

dont need one because awacs doesnt fly in dangerous areas

[@Fighterpilot555]

Long ranged missiles are goddamned scary, man

[@gto_goat1815]

How would an f-14 do in the same mission? Longer standoff with the phoenix?

[@ATP-Flo]

It would see the bandit earlier and the missiles have longer range. But the Phoenix missiles are pretty stupid when you turn cold just after you fired them as GS always does with the AMRAAMs. AMRAAMs have way more intelligent guidance and track better. It would be interesting though.

[@SquirrelLover...]

F/A Super Hornet VS F 35A PLEASE!!!! Thanks :)

[@A-G-F-]

Call me crazy, but a missile with that range sounds like its gonna be dangerous to civilian aircraft too

[@renealarcon3970]

I would like to see the F- 35 or the F 22 do the same mission. Cheers.

[@jg3000]

I think it's better to see the escort.

[@maheradib5698]

Cool video bruh. Saved the AWACS by sacrificing yourself. One request, can you pls upload your videos in 18:9 aspect ratio. It would be great for viewers like us who use KZbin in smartphones.

[@ret7army]

Yeeeah, the price of success can be steep at times

[@davidgillman1962]

I want you to have another go at this mission and have both of you survive. I felt a bit down that you didn't survive :(

[@beatboxbuggi6884]

What are the ECM capabilities on an AWACS, I feel like they should have some pretty good countermeasures considering how important they are

[@TheGoddamnBacon]

... Just how many Fox 3s was GS carrying? I swear I counted like 6 or 7 launches before that last AWACS missile politely yet firmly informed him that he, in fact, had not lost it.

[@CaptainBiggles.]

05:00 why did you fire out of range?

[@kineticdeath]

i wonder if the "400km range" required the missile to be thrown from a MiG-25 doing mach 3.something, just before its engines exploded

[@tippership]

We need gs to pilot a blackbumird and try to grt past a toncat with phoenixes, a foxhound with r37's, and a flanker with these mean weapons!

[@jefftheriault5522]

No AWACS can be defended when you start in the AWACS hip pocket.

[@Raist474]

So weird seeing Tail 450 without the fancy NATO paintjob.

[@Newie69MK]

Don't AWACS type aircraft come equipped with counter measures and/or jamming equipment to help give themselves some kind of protection?

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Indeed they do.

[@qiyuxuan9437]

They do, however, jamming is a double edged sword. Since jamming also broadcast your own direction to the enemy, although they will have a harder time to know the exact range due to jamming.

[@Robert53area]

You should try this in reverse, as the su30 vs an aways and 4 f15s. Only objective killing the awacs. As people are questiong how the su30 was successful, I know why, but it would be more entertaining to watch.

[@clementnoel6663]

4th attempt ;) Dassault Rafale against F14b Tomcat ;)

[@barbaros99]

Great video. A couple of questions: 1) The flares you drop at 2:04 - any reason for that, or just to signal the AWACS that you're breaking off to hunt down the Flanker? 2) In a mission wherein you are trying to force an opponent to go defensive, so they have a harder time locking up the asset you're protecting, is there any worth to firing multiple Fox-3s before going defensive yourself? Giving them more to worry about, as it were?

[@InstinctBassin]

If one AIM-120 doesn’t track, the other isn’t likely to either, so it’s just a wasted missile.

[@gh8447]

I'm surprised that fighters protecting AWACS don't carry anti-missile missiles. Once one of those AWACS killers has been launched, I can't imagine the AWACS aircraft could evade it. If you could shoot the missile down though...

[@iandingman1920]

I find it interesting that the aim 120s have such a shorter range than those standoff missles. The data is probably classified but i feel like the US has a much more capable missle. I probably am missing something but theres gotta be either aim 120s that are good at like 60 to 70 miles or another missle the US would use. No discredit tho the aims are still really deadly

[@fanman71]

The newer AIM-120D version has an operational range of greater than 160KM. The follow on AIM 260 JATM, which is now in testing phase will have a range of greater than 200 KM.

[@GokStrizh]

Sukhoi rules! Very sexy and capable bird!

[@TheArcangle]

Never seen GS working so hard just to kill a one Sukhoi in F 15..man i have to admit I don’t know the range of that awacs killer missiles but they are something 🥶

[@dmitrynova]

imagine what the awacs crew felt knowing they survived and their savior didn't... also, how do you see distance to target, i don't get it (i don't play DCS, just watch your videos), please explain/show

[@retardmoguss]

distance to target shows in the aircraft radar avionics and also the awacs can tell how far the bandit is. Multiple ways!

[@MIKE-313]

I like your vids GS.

[@MD-wn4ui]

Can you do this with the 120D or F14?

[@techbuffer1716]

please can you make a video of an f 22 vs j 20

[@thDRBANKS]

I love you cause you post daily

[@Unknown-gi1uj]

Hmmm i don't know about using a strike eagle as an air superiority fighter. I think that is why the F22 is so good, is its a dedicated fighter, sort of like the F14. F15, F18, F35 are more like strike planes, id say the F16 is more suited to air superiority fighter but i suppose they are all shoot first, ask question later type combat planes.

[@tachikomakusanagi3744]

Can the F15 target and engage the anti-AWACs missile? I've seen missiles knocking out other missiles in GS videos before, but i'm not sure if that was a fluke or not? i.e. can you purposely set out to do it in a reliable fashion?

[@Nill757]

No need. W Datalink from AWAC, it sees SU well before it is seen. SU dies never seeing F15 or AWAC

[@tachikomakusanagi3744]

@@Nill757 But not in this video, at least not in round one?

[@Nill757]

@@tachikomakusanagi3744 There’s no AWAC doing what AWACS do in round one, which is reaching out w a beam further than anything else in the sky and relaying that info. Might as well be shooting down airliners or weather balloons.

[@tachikomakusanagi3744]

@@Nill757 what was the AWACs doing then? I respect your point and i understand that the AWACs had to defend itself and take evasive manouvers but surely your argument that 'nothing can defeat an AWACS and an F-15' can't quite be right here?

[@geedub7912]

You need a wing~man!!!! Very cool mission!!! 👍👍👍

[@felixx321]

Realistically wouldn't the AWACS be pulling back evasively and then turning back as you push off and advance on the bandit? Assuming you can

[@zackantwine4616]

Not that it would need to but could you make a video of the Raptor using the split throttle?!

[@T25de]

I almost said a rate defeat… but the awacs was safe! Mission complete

[@anothervlogger4287]

Love from Bangladesh brother.

[@jathiyakhan720]

Tbh did the su 30 have better situational awareness due to it having a second pilot?

[@СырымБердимжаев]

Yes

[@anthonywashington32]

This is one of my favorite channels I was hoping you could let me know if my MSI gl66 rtx 3050 is strong enough to play this

[@richardcranium2327]

Why not use the AIM-120D to level the playing field?

[@johnxina6823]

f15c only has the c5 and the b variant its not a strike eagle

[@IceyJones]

was always wondering, why the US has no real long range missile for such tasks. will the US adopt the metor i wonder......

[@winterscrescendo]

I doubt it - the US really hates using weapons made abroad, even if they're made by allies. They'll be working on something to fill the gap though even if it's not public yet.

[@stevebailey7633]

Best tactical move is to get the F-15's way out in front of the AWACS, then use the AWACS superior track range to cue the 15 where to engage the SU30. The 15 needs to engage the 30 long before the 30 gets into firing range. Else the AWACS needs to close down its radar and dive for the deck, so as to get out of track range of the 77.

[@charleslynch340]

What does the AWACS killer missiles have to sacrifice that makes it unsuitable for regular usage? Is it just a cost thing?

[@sety5591]

probably something to do with it needing to fly at Mach 3 (5:37)

[@theelectricgamer9889]

Day 50 of asking for F-16 vs F-20 dogfight

[@UnknownAI3]

Wtf is an f 20 LOL😂

[@Ba5edAF]

@@UnknownAI3 one F16 + one F4 lol

[@azrael6067]

I think he is asking for the J 20

[@IcePhoenix_1]

@@UnknownAI3 F-20 Tigershark I believe

[@theelectricgamer9889]

@@UnknownAI3 The F-20 was the competition to the F-16 and one of the main reasons the F-16 was chosen over the F-20 was because the F-20 was essentially an upgraded and better version of the F-5

[@AH-of6td]

GS, can you please check the following case? Mig-31 flys at its maximum altitude about 90K feet and I suppose Aim-120 would not be able to hit it as some sources say the max altitude for Aim-120 is about 80K feet.

[@agsystems8220]

At that altitude a Mig-31 is barely staying in the sky and not doing any manoeuvring. A Mach 3 Mig will probably out-manoeuvre a Mach 3 Aim-120 at that altitude, but it will cost it a chunk of altitude and speed. An Aim 120 could easily get up there. The problem is that it has very little ability to turn when it gets there due to the thin air. It certainly could hit a Mig 31, but only if it made little attempt to avoid it. I wouldn't pay much attention to 'max altitude' figures though, as they are fairly arbitrary representation or diminishing effectiveness.