B.J. Armstrong explains why Michael Jordan was so committed to Phil Jackson | First Take

[@SuperDamon95]

Nice to hear Duncan getting appreciation. He doesn't get nearly enough love from the casual fan, only those in the know.

[@SuperDamon95]

Did you not read the part where I said “the casual fan”? The same casuals who call him boring or say Kobe is so much better. Yeah those ones. All of which is not true by the way.

[@juju-vl7oj]

@Jared Taylor hes only given the props that his resume demands theres no extra fan fare. Kobe , Lebron , Magic, Bird, Shaq even Jordan arent on that much higher of a level value wise but they got the God treatment because of personality or varying degrees of flashiness, Michael most of all, his resume qualifies him as the goat but people act like he did it by himself.

[@Balodaki]

@@juju-vl7oj plus being in large market teams helped a lot. duncan did it in san antonio.

[@MrBridgewater12]

We all thought he was going to say Kobe

[@cobrachannel100]

Duncan had a better career than Shaq and Bron. should be ranked higher than those two.

[@mashwork6615]

Finally some Olajuwon and Duncan credit.

[@CarlosSanchez-yn8im]

Spurs fan here...But as a basketball fan I would haved LOVED to see a Dream vs Timmy matchup in their prime ..That woulda been EPIC. I still think Hakeem woulda gotten the best of Timmy tho...

[@TexasMade903]

That move Olajawon put on David Robinson was one of the sickest post moves I ever seen.

[@meg-k-waldren]

And rightfully so. I hate when people gloss over big men in mount rushmore conversation simply cause you gotta be 6'6 to 6'8 and play SG or SF so they can unduly compare you to MJ. It's BS. Lebron went to Olajuwon for post up lessons and Duncan whupped James in the Finals but people like to forget.

[@faijalhoque3089]

Dk

[@Poise111]

Mash Work u can’t compare guards to forwards and centers in a one on one

[@brodericksimpson6049]

Good for BJ mentioning Tim Duncan who gets dismissed in these conversations

[@brendantoungate8287]

@Jared Taylor Hilarious. TD is easily a top 10 player of all time. If not, top 5.

[@youngblood4127]

Bro, anyone who objectively looks at basketball, is able to deduce that Tim Duncan is 7-10 on the all time list. No higher or lower.

[@glennandquin2437]

Tim Duncan is so overrated his name should never come up.i wish bulls would have came back for 99 season it would have been a field day for MJ

[@uzuvert7542]

Steve Jobs bruh did u just say he better than kobe? & lebron? if he’s top 10. they are top 5.

[@peterstark4562]

Yup. Simply bec the media find the duncan-led spurs boring i mean its mostly composed of international players, they didnt have an exciting player and they play european style basketball. Not alot of drama to cover as well.

[@MC-yh9bw]

Jordan statue in what I presume is in BJs house. That shows the level of respect and gratitude Jordans teammates have for him. They knew he would take them to the championship!

[@chevyrellstraightdropracin0603]

M C facts

[@bmla88]

Many of his teammates (bj, steve kerr, bill wennington/bulls announcer, rodman/hof) are where they are thanks to their association with jordan’s Bulls

[@wanishkaran6289]

Duncan is the most underrated player of the whole NBA.

[@alkemyst3318]

Big facts

[@angelito1358]

Real fan of the game know Duncan is not underrated at all he is under appreciated if anything

[@legendaryTMNICO]

wanish karan The spurs and bulls won’t be great again.

[@legendaryTMNICO]

wanish karan the nba was a lot better before 1999.

[@skybebop2870]

I'm not really sure he was underrated, its embarrassing to see these sports fans put duncan above Kobe. Duncan from 05-16 which is 11 years of his professional career had numbers that of a role player just horrible averages for someone that is considered a "superstar". We criticize kobe for not winning nba finals mvp cuz of shaq but parker and kawhi easily outplayed him in finals to beat him out for nba finals mvp. He had a great run for about first 7 years of his career and everything went downhill after 2005 as a player.

[@djlynch2153]

Once he said Tim Duncan I got excited and knew it’d be a great segment

[@adidas20zero]

It took 100 years for BJ to start to look old!!!

[@SeanDiego]

Look like he 30

[@JSB-2Z-2K]

lol when he played he was looking like 15

[@joits]

To me it still looks like he's a 16 year old with old-man make up.

[@tarikviaer-mcclymont5762]

​@@joits😂😂

[@St3phenking13]

Olajuwon is easily my favorite player of all time. Tim Duncan is definitely one of the greatest of all time as well. I wished I saw Wilt in his prime because he set 73 records. He was a phenom and GOAT material.

[@spongedudeZ]

ESPN should hire more former pros to fill these talk shows. Glad to see someone with credibility putting Timmy & Olajuwon in the 'best player' conversation

[@gemrpt26]

spongedudeZ Pros with integrity and without agenda. Usually key players in a championship team have those qualities.

[@harmanjotsingh4230]

@@gemrpt26 well, you also have Shaq so...

[@StayWil72]

Tim Duncan doesn't get any love because he wasn't flashy! His game was considered boring! Being fundamentally sounds as Tim Duncan was is definitely underappreciated.

[@dusttaker]

Same as Bill Russell.

[@calkelpdiver]

Tim Duncan for a big man was solid fundamentally. Only 1 of a few big men who would shoot a bank shot, and consistently hit with it. You knew on the left side when he spun and shot it was 99% of the time going to be a bank shot, and that it was going in. And yes, Budha (Jackson) knew how to handle players and get the best out of them. For MJ he provided a perfect supporting cast and offense (triangle & motion offense). He kept a loose reign on the thoroughbreds of MJ and Pippen. He knew when to pull, and when to give full freedom.

[@JSB-2Z-2K]

very true. I was only into flashy players myself: Jordan, Kobe, VC, AI, T-mac. But as i grew older i now respect Timmy's game a lot, it was perfect and the guy was a class act. The big fundamental.

[@booday]

Tim Duncan is my favourite player ever. Its so nice to hear Timmy D get credit from his peers. He is always getting left off the GOAT conversation. Tim Duncan is top 5 of all time hands down.

[@jeraldvincentzumel5300]

MJ: loyal to his coach. Somebody I know: gets his coach fired.

[@btb181818]

I mean he was loyal to spo, and I'm sure if he had Phil he wouldve been loyal to him. Look at the list of coaches fired and ask yourself if any impacted the game like Phil. Walton was only hired because he took over for a coach during a 73 win season and somehow got tons of credit for it. MJ still the GOAT, but let's not blame Lebron for wanting a better head coach.. at least in cleveland (his first years) and when he got to LA. Walton just isnt very competant

[@gjwilliams4098]

@@btb181818 did he ge his coaches fired or not?

[@TDKFam]

Sound silly... there were three other coaches prior to Phil... don’t make silly statements to justify a dumb point to bash another. If you had an incompetent manager holding you back... would you continue to sit through the bs and take it all or would you have something to say and see if something can be done about it??

[@exodus1214]

THE Jordan got every single player on his team and coaches fired his first few years in Chicago. Google his rookie year photo

[@Mcrappe]

You make it sound like MJ was loyal to just any random Coach. Phil Jackson has like 13 rings lol

[@AtZ575]

Awesome to hear some Olajuwon and Duncan props. Unfortunately they've been lost in the goat conversations lately but definitely should be in the mt Rushmore conversations

[@lionelkennedy1394]

Michael only wanted to play for the best Coach, and that was Phil Jackson. Iron sharpens iron.

[@bradcrawford1998]

I agree 100% Lionel. Phil demanded respect and gave it out to. You could just tell that Phil was EXTREMELY Intelligent both X's and O's and with his communication skills. VERY few rookie coaches AND veteran coaches could have pulled off what Phil did molding the team around Micheal and Visa versa. Phil being on the bench as an assistant to Doug Collins helped a bunch to. The BIGGEST question I always had and PLEASE reply with your opinion. Would Doug Collins been able to win the Championships Phil did with the Bulls had he not been fired 🤔

[@whiskers11234]

Pat Riley was the best coach an president of an organiztion.. Riley won in LA and Miami.. Phil was a horrible President for the Knicks..Like Jordan is a Horrible owner for the wizards and now Charlotte... Notice how great Magic johnson was as President in LA and he was under Riley.. Notice how Horrible Phil was in upper management and Jordan was under his leadership and failed in upper management

[@legendaryTMNICO]

Lionel Kennedy He didn’t want to play for Phil anymore when he played for the wizards.

[@andrewlytle9728]

BJ needs his own talk show about basketball. He's got a smart basketball mind and can communicate it.

[@KingKatumwa]

That did happen to be the best coach for Jordan & Kobe 💯

[@jaybrick8973]

Timmy D the greatest power foward ever

[@nguyenthanhhai6725]

@Jason MJ never played PF. Malone would have been a good argument.

[@leiarichardson65]

@Jason lool

[@darren49]

Tim Duncan most overlooked superstar player of our generation. People dont realise that he has had the best career since MJ, better than Kobe, Shaq, LeBron. Deserves to be mentioned in top 5 all time list more than he does.

[@dearshomy]

You have to love it when former players explain the game void of sensationalism

[@magic131]

Thats what it is... Felt refreshing to hear his take but couldn't find the reason

[@JKTProductionzIncNCo]

Bc they were having an actual discussion. Not a shouting contest.

[@jjones8378]

Indeed.

[@IamGroot786]

So true! Duncan was always so classy!

[@Jason5818UI]

Nah Tim called MJ overrated and didn't see what the big deal was...far from classy

[@heyyoo38]

Tim Duncan is one of the greatest players But Hakeem Olajuwon's foot work just out did everyone who guarded him..Fast and calculated just like MJ...

[@nagka100]

Jordan always picks Olajuwon in his top 5. Explains just how great Olajuwon was

[@meg-k-waldren]

MJ said if Phil goes the only other coach he'd play for is Dean Smith. MJ is the man. So he needs someone mentally on his level to play for. At that stage of his career I can see how he'd be unwilling to be teaching young, undevoted players as well as a coach just coming into his own and learning the game himself. Uh-uh.

[@paulofreire7520]

Well done BJ! 👍🏻 Tim was one of the greatest and unfortunately he doesn’t receive the so much deserved recognition.

[@jetGg8819]

The main reason why Mike achieved his greatness is that he respected his coach. Tell that to Lebron! Hahaha

[@JaWeDaking]

Jet Garcia Give him a HOF Coach and he would.

[@emerybmusic]

KING_Jay1 the coach can’t force you to make shots

[@donhudson6251]

@@emerybmusic he can gameplan to get you better shots dumb dumb

[@gbone1812]

LeGm: nobody tells me what to do. I'll get ya traded fast.

[@indigo7454]

Y’all arguing other two men who don’t know y’all 😂

[@cobrachannel100]

Actually, Tim Duncan should be mentioned in the top all time players discussion more. And yes, especially in this decade. Tim Duncan could be argued had a better career than Kobe, Bron for sure, and Shaq. I actually think he should be ranked higher than Shaq and Bron for sure on the all time lists.

[@alexkinnane]

He can rank higher and has better cases to rank higher than all those guys, in fact I do rank him higher than all those guys, Duncan 4th Kobe being next at 5th then bron 7th Shaq 9th. I have put Kareem and Wilt ahead of Duncan souly out of respect but man do I want to put Duncan 2nd all time, he defiantly has the resume people just love to dismiss it because of arrogance.

[@alexkinnane]

I will say if LeBron wins another chip and finishes his career well he will probably break into my top 5 for sure

[@darren49]

Duncan definetely had a better career than all those guys. I'd still rank LeBron above him in all time list, but Kobe and Shaq below.

[@lawbsk1048]

None of you know a thing, eye test. Just by opening your eyes you can see Tim wasn’t at the some level as those 3

[@cobrachannel100]

@@lawbsk1048 How come? Very subjective you being here. I see no arguments. To be honest, I would have not expected anything more from a Bronsexual.

[@vincentestone5764]

HAKEEM & TIM. TWO of the BEST low post ARTIST in Basketball HISTORY.

[@belichagua]

Jordan is the G.O.A.T🙌🏀❤✨

[@MrYunus999]

CAP

[@G17x]

Finallllyyyyy some gives a credit to Timmy, people keep on underappreciating him

[@Amick44]

Great point from Stephen A about Timmy. 🏀

[@apt62]

Thank you BJ. Tell it how it is.

[@JrClips27]

This is why most basketball players and legend choose Michael over LeBron, outside of being a physical anomaly, he has little to no fundamentals at all. Fundamentals trumps athletics and flash 9/10 times. Tthe Spurs showed the world that in 2014. This is why MJ and Hakeem would dominate this era. Literally unguardable with their overall fundamentals, athleticism and skillset.

[@BigPoppa23]

Great interview! ✌️

[@saintlunatik4495]

Tim Duncan . Remembering watching this guy play at family get togethers 02" era. Straight up g

[@HRAHMAN91]

The fact of the matter is- phil jackson lets players be who they are and works with that to win rather than changing players

[@patrickmanalili7240]

True great players make teammate a star like jordan 6-0 duncan 5-1 in order to win While Lebron 3-6 need trade build superteam in order to have chance win

[@tijuan307]

Exactly especially when he had blatt who wasn't a bad coach he just didn't let lebron get his way

[@angelairwayz]

LeBron didn't need a super team but LeBron need a team like every other championship number don't lie LeBron breaking all the record accept the team one of a nba championship

[@southsideman4891]

Great, great words on Duncan

[@roderickl9539]

If Tim Duncan played in the East and/or played in the top market like Chicago, NY, or California, Tim would've been more popular and would've been on many people's list as far as one of the high, top best who ever played. Hakeem "The Dream" Olajuwon is definitely one of the best. It would've been something to see... Championship series between the Bulls and the Rockets when they're on top in the 90s. Tim Duncan and the San Antonio Spurs were great! Before the Golden State Warriors became a championship team, San Antonio was the team. Steve Kerr definitely brought it from San Antonio to Golden State.

[@at1212b]

Seriously, if Duncan trained his body like he could have, he would have been 2x greater. Look how he changed after he lost to Lebron in 2013. His redemption year, wow, he looked like a beast. But by then, he was older. That was a scary Tim Duncan.

[@evo7on]

The statue is 🔥

[@jimmyconway6080]

Timmy D! My favorite player all time

[@drphot6050]

Showing love the Timmy D. was pleasantly surprising but to leave Kobe out is ridiculous!

[@ovsog.4979]

It's his opinion

[@bryantstricklandsr.3446]

I highly agree with BJ, I didn't have a second thought about it. Tim Duncan would just simply would go handle business and there was nothing you could do about it!!! NOTHING!!! THANKS BJ!!! 💯, Stephen always trying to undermine someone's opinions!!! BJ know better because he played at the highest levels, not you Mr. Smith!!! 💯

[@bryanlarkins3624]

I have to hit amazon up for that mj statue in the background

[@valabeng4827]

Let me know if you find this online...thanks!

[@kingc4595]

BJ low-key sending a message out to Lebron with the MJ towing over all the other players in the background lol 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍

[@ShermCity]

King C I’m buying that statue

[@MrYoumitube]

I was not expecting Duncan name.

[@markanthonyapostol5642]

Good thing BJ mentioned TD. Coz their Team San Antonio could be the next team to have a documentary . Parker, Ginobli & Tim.. they are the Jordan, Pippen and Rodman of San Antonio .. plus Popovich

[@Amick44]

Wouldnt miss it!

[@realmontana6838]

This ain’t what they want to hear 😭😭😭💯💯💯 good job BJ

[@cut1986]

Favorite Hawkeye EVER!!!!!

[@memorylove8369]

Tim Duncan Top 10 all-time

[@gjwilliams4098]

Everything has a standard. Boxing, Muhammad Ali. Cycling, Lance Armstrong. Golf, Tiger Woods. Track, Usain Bolt. Baseball, Babe Ruth. Soccer, Pele. Hockey, Wayne Gretzky. Swimming, Michael Phelps. Music, Michael Jackson. Acting, Denzel Washington. Comedy, Richard Pryor. Tennis, Serena Williams. MMA, Andersen Silva. Drummer, John Bonham. Guitarist, Jimi Hendrix. Basketball, MICHAEL JORDAN. Its about them being the best and dominating in their primes. When it was their time, it was their time and no one else's. No peers. The standards they set gave everybody else something to strive for. No matter how good others are, they will always be compared to the GOAT of whatever they do. GOATs were never compared to anybody. Comparisons don't last. We'll always go back to the GOATs.

[@davidb1975a]

One of the Iowa Hawkeye's best players.. good to see BJ speak about his times with the Bulls.

[@commonsense3921]

People often forget B.J Armstrong was an All-Star.

[@milkbytes3661]

Hakeem and Tim Duncan 94 and 99

[@aaron5049]

03 Duncan

[@dbag3345]

Aaron ding ding ding

[@JB-xh5mc]

@@aaron5049 03 Duncan was the most impressive show of dominance I have EVER seen!

[@jamilnadour7486]

great answer BJ

[@SLAYERSWINE1]

I was thinking Tim Duncan as well...

[@isaac-shapiro]

Tim Duncan >>>>> LeFlop James. no questions about it.

[@gjwilliams4098]

Exactly. I could imagine Rodman living in lebrons head.

[@jordzbuenafe6239]

Tier 1: Jordan Tier 2: Wilt, Russell, Kareem Tier 3: Magic, Bird, Kobe, Shaq, Duncan Tier 4: Dirk, Hakeem, Lebron, Dr. J, J.West, Isiah Thomas Tier 5: Malone, Barkley, KG, Iverson, Stockton, D.Robinson, Ewing

[@DeMondDicE]

Please leave basketball to ones who know it with this ridiculous rating system

[@jaytorr6701]

Hallelujah. As I have been saying, Duncan for me is the second best player ever. The only other player so elite in BOTH sides of the court, elite IQ and leadership. Thank you BJ

[@Shawnpimpin601]

They didn't have to do M.J like that with the title and that picture🤣🤣🤣

[@a5a346]

Yea u forcing it, it ain’t that deep

[@Shawnpimpin601]

@@a5a346 TF are you talking about

[@dominiquec8244]

I was a huuuuge duncan fan when he came to the league man dude was a beast!!!

[@ChinitoCarrera]

Michael Jordan the GOAT

[@truthseeker2587]

C. Hakeem Pf. Duncan Sf. Pippen Sg. Jordan Pg. Nash My all time ⭐️ starting five.

[@amaaclay3891]

Great sports clip

[@DwainDwight]

totally agree with BJ.

[@jonathanwatson1908]

Tim Duncan rivals Shaq as the best big man in my generation. Outside of Shaq, Tim Duncan is the only other big guy that was just dominant, but because he played in a smaller market, he didnt get much shine like Shaq

[@eugeneberotte739]

BJ 💯 on Tim Duncan 💯🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

[@TheBloodshower]

Good to see BJ finally hit his teen years

[@PH-lr2mp]

Duncan got more rings than lbj and was his team best player

[@anthonytaylor7928]

Wow bj still looks young

[@probedwarsplayer703]

Timmy! Big Fundamentals for a reason 🔥

[@melobazzi]

Phil Jackson is the greatest coach of alltime. GOAT.

[@isaachaze1]

Sorry, I have to go with Pat Riley. Phil Jackson was great to manage that talent. But he did have the GOAT and another HOF playing for him. I'm not dissing him. I'm just saying it's kinda hard to miss with that talent level playing for you.

[@melobazzi]

@@isaachaze1 I loved Pat.. But (11 chips) Of course somebody has to have MJ, It's just funny how when Phil arrives Chips come, while the previous coaches who had these HOF'ers failed .... and Phil did it in different scenarios, over and over, proven.. (where other coaches failed when they had Shaq and Kobe) but when He came, they won a 3-peat the first year he arrived. He MADE 2 legends into GOAT champs, who despised each other and couldn't win together previously. Then he came back to Win again with Kobe's 2nd run. Who has a better resume?

[@balusindiancuisine]

Yoooo that mini Jordan statue is sick!! Gotta get me one

[@Only2GendersCommonSense]

Duncan OWNS LeBron.

[@HansLotap]

I want that jumpman statue.

[@derickhenderson8655]

See instead of MJ going to Washington , MJ could of went to the Spurs, Knicks, kings

[@Madskillsuniversity]

BJ is still my boy. Great VIdeo!!!!

[@yoe91]

Surprising hearing Stephen A Smith give the standard uneducated comment about Duncan not trash talking. Watch him in those games early-mid 2000s, listen to KG or others say how he trash talked a lot but cleverly, how he utterly demoralized his opponents. He wasn't loud, he was subtle, and ironic, and they feared him for that.

[@tinytanks]

Interesting take from BJ

[@glenorystigger835]

Yep tim ducun is from the u.s virgin islands

[@PoliticusRex632]

MJ was loyal to Phil cause Phil brought those titles.

[@jaimearviso4642]

Nobody gave Michael Jordan problems. He is in a league of his own.

[@nanagyambibi7426]

The only thing about Duncan is his elite years was very short compared other greats. He hit the ground running in 98 but by 2007 he was no longer a top 10 player in the league. Yes the Spurs were still good but that was the system.

[@88smjls]

They won 6 rings together enough said.

[@kingarchnyc]

Nice sculpture!

[@oblivionviix9896]

The Big Fundamental, The Big Ticket, The Black Mamba 2020

[@alexmunez3517]

Max is the best . Hahaha

[@JosephC9]

My hero is Olajuwon. I miss the 90s.

[@yoshinorinagano1381]

BJ should be the Bulls next GM

[@legendaryTMNICO]

Yoshinori Nagano Mosf former players can’t make the transition to working the front office. The bulls won’t be great again.

[@0327elf]

Ain't a bank he can't hit

[@sanjuro2024]

TD over Lejoke and Kobe all day

[@STATUStheSHOKWAVE]

Kobe played His prime on trash team AND still better than both..AND kobe torched mj More than once

[@kendallandrews8691]

Yep Tim Duncan gets a ton of disrespect. It is always MJ vs Kobe vs Lebron. Tim Duncan won 5 titles and was a few crazy shots away from winning more. He would have beat the Bulls in 99. The Spurs in 99 finished the season 31-5 and then went 15-2 in the playoffs. The Bulls who barely squeaked by the Jazz in 98 weren't going to beat the Spurs in 99.

[@somesoccerguy4817]

Lol still some dreamers out there I see.

[@chrisrodsa210]

He ain't lying, the Spurs lost to great teams, but did beat prime Kobe and Shaq, as well as prime LeBron.

[@motionmovment]

can we please have a non bias opinion on first take

[@eazyduzit-tr3nx]

Let’s bring in Bill Laimbeer again!!! LBJ fans loved him here!

[@JKTProductionzIncNCo]

Thx for the laugh m8

[@phramez0420]

99 finals bulls in 6....all it would take was for Timmy to look at MJ the wrong way. MJ quote " Its Personal "

[@Nick-kd1ob]

If Phil Jackson flexed all his rings, his toes would have to join the party😎

[@bmla88]

Jordan would take it personal that Duncan wouldn’t talk trash.

[@Cbart23]

TIMMMMMAYYY

[@magnum-kj5ip]

Kobe dropping 50 on his head at halftime wouldn't have gave him any problems lmfao

[@glennandquin2437]

Chuck Cobb You Must be crazy

[@CO8848_2]

No one would think Loser Bron would be that answer.

[@gjwilliams4098]

Some children would...

[@jackspalden5143]

I bet nobody expected him to say Duncan 💀

[@charliekim4225]

The bulls made a mistake in not hiring BJ Armstrong for the front office..instead we got Gar/Pax

[@noam8314]

Let's be real, tge fact that duncan would not reply is enough for jordan ti take it personally: " duncan did not talk back to me, as if looking down down on me, and i took it personally "

[@Cali49er]

Tim Duncan had no style STIFF!!! 💯

[@wereallyrollin6680]

Got more chips then lebitch tho

[@georgemills9035]

Can't guard him.

[@mashwork6615]

He won