Battle Of The Crossover Kings | Toyota RAV4 vs Honda CR-V

[@Marl-hj8hh]

Love the split screen comparison reviews. Really helps me make a decision. Great work!

[@AwesomeZain123]

What’d u decide

[@valdius85]

I've read recently in Japanese auto media that Toyota stopped auto start-stop in RAV4 and few other models. Great job Toyota. Thank you.

[@Corkfish1]

Still in the 2020 model, but you can turn it off

[@bostonbikerX]

Thanks for picking one. I am sick and tired of those reviewers who waste 40 mins and then in the end leave it upto viewers to decide one.

[@kennethsanders2357]

Boston Biker I agree!

[@karlp8484]

Correct. It's just cowardice on the part of a lot of reviewers, they don't want to piss anyone (especially the automakers) off. But we watch these things for opinions, don't we?

[@dsugioaga]

Well, you SHOULD make the ultimate decision yourself... but yes, it's good when reviewers are open about their own preferences and opinions.

[@paulfun8720]

Go to the 5:22 mark look at the torque specs. Realize the CR-V makes peak torque a lot earlier than RAV4 and feels way better driving around the city. In my opinion, the CR-V is a lot better looking.

[@alheiman9525]

I like both a lot, but to each his own. CRV I is a little more car like.

[@Phrancis5]

Agreed. The rav looks and feels too truck-like and yes, the CRV's torque band is nice in urban driving. My 2017 has been great.

[@elliotazus6258]

Hi Alex, I loved the split screen addition for comparison! Also thank you for the plug in heads up!

[@ejlafleur14]

This has replaced the epic Accord vs Camry battles

[@JohnThomWebb]

It's replaced the Civic/Corolla comparisons. These are compact SUVs.

[@zidavey]

I love the new CRV body paint color. Wish they didn't wait until 2020 to finally being something for people who want a brighter younger looking car. They also have a nice red and bright blue finally. Felt like Grandma picked the color choices for 17-20... So insuring uninspiring and dark.

[@davevolz6138]

Grandma picked the car!

[@clarencewhite6053]

IT WOULDN'T BE A BAD IDEA IF HONDA MIXED UP THE INTERIOR COLOR CHOICES FOR THE INTERIOR. The FAKE WOOD trim is JUST ABOUT.....WELL.. FAKE. HONDA DOES MAKE A GOOD CVT TRANSMISSION THOUGH AND, THE ENGINE DOES A GOOD JOB MOVING THE CAR. The EXTERIOR DESIGN could USE A BIT MORE EXCITEMENT and 2-tone paint would SPICE UP THE EXTERIOR. BUT IT IS SIMPLE and COMFORTABLE ( to me anyway, i have the 2020 ex). I ALSO THINK (maybe it wouldn't be a bad idea if HONDA WENT WITH A STEPPED TRANSMISSION) maybe a new non turbo motor and...we know what people think...OIL DILLUSION. Thats RARE I HAVEN'T HAD ANY TROUBLE WITH MY 2020 HONDA CRV.

[@WoodAndSteel92]

Currently own a 2017 CRV Touring, and it's a very competent vehicle. It does everything pretty well and works as a jack-of-all-trades type. The transmission is definitely the CRV's worst aspect, but I would also add that the lack of any substantial changes for almost 3 years now is also a major downfall for Honda. This is the best selling vehicle in their American lineup as of 2018, and it's disappointing to see Honda not pushing for more updates on what is arguably their most popular product.

[@Phrancis5]

I'm rockin a 2017 CRV too and have had no issues, but always hated all the chrome and the fidget spinner rims. I'm glad they addressed that, but would've liked the updated HU from the accord.

[@kenhoward3512]

I believe the only update needed for the CR-V is the infotainment system. 'Not a big fan of changes for the sake of changes.

[@wikn8r275]

Agreed, both great rides, we went with the CRV.

[@toetz4491]

Traded my 19 Accord for 21 Crv... very comfy ride.. not athletic as the accord but im happy with it. At least they fixed the oil dilution issue with the last run of the 5th gen

[@rightlanehog3151]

RAV4 Hybrid. Toyota has proven the reliability of their Hybrids over 2 decades, no other automaker can make that claim .

[@gustavomercado1599]

Fords are also reliable

[@jackp2563]

Gustavo Mercado Yaah. I can vouch for it Ford Pinto best car ever. Follow by Tempo

[@dabradguy]

@@gustavomercado1599 eh, escape suspension components are good for about 90,000 miles (tie rods). Prius, closer to 200,000

[@Earl_VTEC]

But honda builds hybrids since 1999 and has the first 3 Liter vehicle on the market. The honda Insight first gen ♥️

[@whiteclarence6958]

Thats EXACTLY why HONDA is bringing out a HYBRID. TOYOTA and HONDA are VERY COMPETITIVE. Ihave a 2019 honda crv-ex-l but, if i had to do this all over again, i"d probably go for the rav 4. In all the HONDA CRV is JUST FINE.

[@PP-qj1ez]

Waiting to see your review on 2020 CR-V hybrid and 2021 RAV4 Prime.

[@dabradguy]

I have a feeling the Rav4 prime will be the best car for almost every American, as long as it is affordable

[@PP-qj1ez]

@@dabradguy Agree! I suspect that with this launch ... suddenly there will be a flood of PHEV SUVs!

[@alheiman9525]

I personally have no interest in the prime

[@PP-qj1ez]

@@alheiman9525 i do

[@homelessmillionaire1]

The Prime will be well overpriced

[@deni8814]

Honda 1.5 is notorious for oil dillution, so that alone makes RAV4 better.

[@Earl_VTEC]

No problem is fixed since long time

[@jamesmedina2062]

egxxx It is still issue. Honda care most profits #1, no more customer satisfaction being #1, they don't listen or care about customers. They only care what famous people and promoters think and say to manage their image.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

15:31 I agree with your assessment Alex. My best friend currently has both the 2018 Toyota RAV4 and 2020 Honda CR-V in his garage currently. One of the big deciding factors of having both right now for him and his family was that the Toyota RAV4 just couldn’t hold cargo nor seat passengers as comfortably as the new Honda CR-V. Little things such as fitting in the stroller and car seats for the kid were just easier with the bigger cargo volume. One last big factor was engine noise and refinement, because the Toyota was just a rougher ride for the kids with much louder engine sounds on the highway. The Toyota is on a lease that he doesn’t plan on buying when it’s up because his family fell in love with the Honda CR-V and bought it straight from the dealership. Personally I can say that I actually prefer the rougher and much louder sound of the Toyota, but the smoother handling and everyday ride of the Honda cannot be denied.

[@SilverScarletSpider]

If any of you are concerned about potential pitfalls of a CVT transmission, your apprehension is valid. However, the crucial detail to note is that Honda actually has by far the best CVT transmissions on the market right now. Especially when compared to Nissan, Subaru, Jeep, Toyota, and Volkswagon. carfromjapan.com/article/car-maintenance/how-long-do-cvt-transmissions-last/amp/ While Toyota has had huge recalls over their CVT failure and Nissan/Subaru CVT’s have been well documented to consistently fail within only 60,000 to 100,000 miles; reporting rates of catastrophic CVT failure are remarkably much lower in all Honda cars and SUVs. Concerning possible issues with the 1.5 Liter turbo engine and oil dilution: most documentation indicates that after dealerships offered free services to address all engine issues, and the customer is vigilant about letting the car engine warm up a bit before driving hard on short trips in below freezing weather: the issue is a non issue. No risk of engine fires, and no premature wear. www.consumerreports.org/car-recalls-defects/honda-extends-warranty-on-troubled-turbo-engines/ www.hondaproblems.com/oil-dilution/

[@normt5463]

Just that Earth Dreams 1.5t with fuel diluting the oil.

[@alheiman9525]

Rav4 hybrid and CRV are very close in ride and noise. Rav4 gas is noisey.

[@jamesmedina2062]

Measuring decibels with a spl meter is about as futile as measuring temperature without wind speed. People do it but its meaningless. An RTA is more expensive but at least will measure frequencies of sound, and I have yet to see one of these freelance journalists use one.

[@sseilheimer396]

I'm with you. I like the look and feel of the RAV4 more, but if I weren't looking at hybrids, I would probably go with the more practical and comfortable CR-V. Can't wait to see what the CR-V Hybrid, and the PHEV RAV4 will be like.

[@jameslindo9047]

Crvisgood

[@jameslindo9047]

Crv

[@pfaibs]

Your intro is low key 🔥 very underrated.

[@Jaymac720]

Alex takes any opportunity he can to call the Mazda the most attractive entry in any segment

[@OMGWTFLOLSMH]

It's also the best driving, among many other things, including being made in Japan, unlike the North American junk displayed here. It's the only one I'd consider in this price range. CX-5 Signature Edition for the win.

[@Jaymac720]

OMGWTFLOL I’m not saying he’s wrong. The CX-5 is very attractive. It’s just not necessarily relevant in a comparison between the CR-V and RAV4

[@alheiman9525]

Looked at the Cx5 and didn't even go for a test drive. Looks like a toy!

[@moeanthony9308]

Cx 5 interior room no where near these two.

[@gregtwogood9442]

Great production and camera work. Slick video!

[@uTubed007]

Outstanding review again Alex. Your speech rate is awesome, you put out a lot of info, details about both vehicle. All of your gestures and passenger space demonstration are very thoughtful and gives us a great idea for the viewers.

[@adasmith7141]

Outstanding review 🙌🙌 I love comparisons between Toyota RAV4 Hybrid and others cars in the segment... Thanks 😊 so much for sharing...

[@ohcanadaeh]

The CVT and turbo charged engine are the deal breakers for the CRV

[@s.p.ltd.3886]

Agree completely. Another review and no mention of oil dilution. Funny how reviews pay more attention to infotainment than predicted long term reliability

[@aliendroneservices6621]

Almost everything Honda makes today is junk. Fit is an exception.

[@guillermoortiz1492]

@@s.p.ltd.3886 it was just brought up on the TFL review two days ago. Mentioned there is still no fix to the oil solution, Honda services have mentioned it as well for 19 and 20. Your better off with the rav4 for long long term, if your leasing you cant lose with iether. The rav4 8spd is the same they been using with the bullet proof Lexus gs350 since 14.. As far as the engine its natural aspirated ..less complications, but its a slug. I have owned 14 pilot and rav4 sport v6 now tsx sportwagon 4banger vtech old school 5pd Auto daym near bulletproof.

[@underscr0e]

As in you mean turbo's and cvt's are problematic sources of Hondas?

[@steveprinty5674]

Guillermo Ortiz There is no such thing as a Lexus GX 350. Did you intend to say RX 350? 🤔

[@greentjmtl]

They need to put 4/2/4 folding seats into these things, way more useful than soft touch dash or fancy door panels.

[@TroyHeerwagen]

The CX-5 has this and the convenience of being able to drop just the middle seat makes up for its disadvantage in total cargo volume.

[@matty_o]

Great comparison review but I was also blown away by your double and triple split screen videos.

[@kee7678]

Excellent video!!! Really well done and helpful! Thanks Alex !!

[@makipa20021]

Great comparison videos - thank you Alex you’re the best !

[@dimekoza]

Pretty sure the RAV 4 Hybrid has a CVT and not an 8 speed auto. We have those in Europe and it's clearly stated that it's a CVT.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

It’s not a CVT, it’s a planetary power split device that Toyota calls an “eCVT” but it has zero relationship to a traditional CVT

[@koyrehme4361]

Yes, it's a planetary-style CVT like all other Toyota hybrids (because that's how their hybrid system works).

[@rdm925]

Between the two, I would pick the CR-V. I don't like the current RAV4's truck like design and styling. As it is I'm very happy I bought a 2019 Mazda CX-5 Signature. It's been great for 16,000 miles and competes with near luxury and luxury SUV's costing $10,000-15,000 more and more reliable.

[@alheiman9525]

Rav4 and is not truck like. It's more of a true SUV, whereas the CRV is more car like. As for the Cx5, that's more like a toy.

[@rdm925]

@@alheiman9525 , okay, I meant that I didn't like the current design of the RAV4. To each his own.

[@1beck2en3ham]

The sales of RAV4 is good in America. I've always thought that American like RAV4 design. You make me know that American also don't like this design.

[@rdm925]

@@1beck2en3ham , Thanks it's just my opinion, but I prefer the last generation RAV4 design. I am not a fan of the boxy bulky truck like look. I prefer the design of the Mazda's and more smooth, sporty and aerodynamic style of design.

[@ted101975]

Loved the editing and side by side great!!!!!!!!

[@joeythedime1838]

My big determining factor is longevity. The RAV4 with a normally aspirated DI/Port injected engine should out-live the smaller DI turbo charged Honda CR-V engine. Also the standard automatic transmission in the RAV4 should again out-live the CR-V CV trans.

[@bikingmoments]

Thank you for the video! A question regarding CR-V’s drivetrain: will the 1.5T+CVT potentially less reliable than Toyota’s 2.5NA + 8AT combination in terms of 10-year or even longer ownership? After all, this 1.5T once suffered from oil dilution issue while CVTs have been proven less reliable than traditional ATs in the past (see Nissan, Subaru’s cases). This concern did steer me towards RAV4 when I was cross shopping for an elder who wants to keep the vehicle for 10+ years. She was planning to buy a CR-V at first but I persuaded her to go for RAV4, though I never know if I could have been wrong. The two vehicles have very similar ACTUAL price tags for similar equipments (2019 models for example, RAV4 LE competes actually with CR-V EX since LX has no Safety nor CarPlay). I should also highlight the RAV4 hybrid which only added $800 onto the same gas trim and made itself our final choice.

[@JJustinXu]

Zixu Tao Good for you! RAV4 is the better deal! Reliable, longevity, durable, hybrid variant, and much more!

[@alheiman9525]

They are both great. Ones gas and ones a hybrid so it's hard to compare. Rav4 is more money.

[@alheiman9525]

@@bikingmoments really not sure what you are trying to say, but the Rav4 hybrid is a no brainer if you are getting the upper level trim. 800 bucks to add the hybrid. Wow!

[@alheiman9525]

@Anubisavi that's a pretty dumb comment seeing as how Toyota and Ford both have 10 year warranties on the hybrid batteries.

[@rncondie]

Anubisavi, Replacement of the battery is much less than the CVT on the CRV which will need replaced before the hybrid battery.

[@stuartstuart866]

The superior brakes on the Honda doesn’t surprise me. We have a 2009 CRV and it has the best brakes of any vehicle I have ever owned, but that doesn’t mean I would necessarily buy another one.

[@jamesmedina2062]

Stuart Stuart we often take brakes for granted because we have avoided accidents. When they suck like when I drove a Ford Taurus '86 with drum brakes and totaled it, you pay more attention to the issue

[@strek200]

Did Honda solve the oil dilution problem for the 2020 model?

[@yiyangcheng]

Doubt it..... still happens at 2019 MY

[@Phrancis5]

My 2017 still doesn't show oil dilution.

[@nam12578]

It’s still on going even for a new vehicle.

[@Earl_VTEC]

No Problems in germany with that ♥️ Problem is solved since the end of the year 2018

[@nam12578]

egxxx how much do you drive in Germany because this issue is very specific and comes in after a long period of driving. I don’t think in Germany you drive the same amount of kms as in North America.

[@oumarabasow1194]

You never talk about what matters most for people: reliability.

[@AAutoBuyersGuide]

We do actually, but with new models we have no idea what it will be like. The RAV is too new.

[@curemeister7443]

Alex, has Honda resolved the oil dilution problem? I live in upstate NY, cold winter weather, and short trips equates to engine issues with the 1.5 turbo.

[@curemeister7443]

@JAA This problem does not exist on each vehicle. Some vehicles are problem free. As of Dec 2019 Honda dealers in upstate NY were still reprogramming troublesome 2019 CRVs for this problem.

[@jamesmedina2062]

The engines warm up slowly. You can install a Honda pre-heater that heats the coolant water so warm up does not take forever. For NY I would buy a different vehicle. Subaru, Toyota, or Mazda

[@markperalta2995]

I have both the hybrid and non-hybrid RAV4's. The non-hybrid has a coarse and loud engine, however, adding the factory under hood insulation helped a bit, esp on hard accelerations. It's still not as silent, smooth, and refined as the hybrid engine. The hybrid engine is comfortable even at high RPM, the non-hybrid is rough and loud above 2500 RPM. You will quickly notice the contrast at highway on ramps. The hybrid has a solid and quick throttle response at the highway, to get the same response in the non-hybrid, the transmission has to down shift with noticeable increase in engine noise. In spite of that, the non-hybrid still feels nimble and light to me. The hybrid feels more like an upscale drive train. However, the non hybrid is still a fun vehicle to drive. I equally enjoy driving both vehicles. The biggest difference is the fuel economy. My hybrid is getting 37 mpg per tank while the non-hybrid is only 24 mpg per tank.

[@Gabriel-pz8jk]

Wow, excellent video, the simultaneous videos for both vehicles is brilliant! not only does it give viewers an ultimate comparison but auto manufacturers too can actually use it to improve.

[@MsCaterific]

This is my dilemma, which to choose?! Why cant they take the best of RAV4 and CRV and create/combine the best of the 2 and call it CRAV4 Honota/Toyoda or sumpfin like that. Ugh! Perhaps once the CRV hybrid comes out it'll help me choose.

[@MrKikoboy]

The upcoming CRV hybrid sounds good - the only hesitation is that it's a 1st year model where you become a tester for any problems...always nice to buy something at the end of the run before they change since most problems have been worked out....

[@moeanthony9308]

Honda hybrid always been questionable.

[@kenhoward3512]

The CR-V Hybrid has actually been on sale in Europe for a year.

[@TAG.YoureIt]

I love how you mentioned that the CRV is coming out in Hybrid matching the current RAV 4, but didn’t mention that the RAV4 is coming out in Plugin getting up to 39miles to the charge or up to ~90MPGe

[@abbasjafiya21]

Alex always ignores the Reliability topic but how can you do a head to head or any review for that matter with out covering reliability ?

[@ahsanmalik1013]

ABS - Jakes Covering reliability would entail the long term of ownership to indicate the outcome of the reliability which is not possible since new cars are often reviewed for changes compared to predecessor. New car with new engine cannot be predicted overnight in regards to long term reliability of ownership so that leaves it to reputation of the brand.

[@chairattangthong]

Good Review Man. Thank you

[@b.carollo1703]

I have a 18 CR-V and have driven a new a RAV-4. The RAV-4 engine is noisy compared to CR-V. I do like the a RAV interior and I find the seats more comfy than CR-V's. The RAV's styling is a little weird but I could get used to it. My CR-V on eco mode consistently gets 5 mpg better than EPA est. Highway is usually 36-37 mpg driving at 70 or under. Never had the problem of oil dilution and I live in a cold climate. There was a recall and they fixed the software.

[@davidgapp1457]

I was about to buy the Rav4 Hybrid but now find myself waiting for the Rav4 prime! One factor missing from all reviews is mechanical reliability and maintenance cost. I know this is hearsay but my overall experience is that Toyota tends to be cheaper to repair than Honda (and much cheaper than BMW). Factors such as reliability and repair cost became a big issue if you intend to keep the vehicle for a long time (I'm planning for at least 15 years).

[@normt5463]

Toyota has better discounts too over a Honda. But the CR-V 1.5t AWD is $5,000 more than a more realibale Equinox 1.5t AWD.

[@refreshingAnd]

Exactly. Especially considering that both have some serious issues that make them less reliable than their "legacy". Oil and gas mixing in Honda and lurching Toyota due to new transmission...

[@stanmarcusgtv]

@@normt5463 Honda doesn't discount because it has a better product - that said the both the Honda and Toyota are better than any GM junk, especially those Chinese so-called Buicks which appeal to the uninformed

[@davidgapp1457]

@@refreshingAnd The Toyota transmission lurch was fixed before Christmas. Requires a software update which the dealer can perform. I restore Mark 1 Toyota MR2's in my garage and consequently all of my tools are metric-only - so I'm not interested in SAE vehicles irrespective of merit. The short list until recently was the CX-5, Hondar CRV and Toyota Rav4 Hybrid - however the Prime seems the logical way forward. My daily ride is an 88 supercharged MR2 and to-date the only "breakdowns" were dead batteries - I currently own five MR2s. The Rav4 is necessary because I can't carry much in a 2 seater mid-engine sports car and our sons "stole" our two SUVs.

[@normt5463]

@@stanmarcusgtv you are clueless having owned a Envision. Another crowded segment, the Buick Envision went home with the award in the Compact SUV category. The model received highest marks in all ratings except for features & accessories quality - mechanical and design. Still, it holds bragging rights over the Ford Escape, Honda CR-V, Chevrolet Equinox, Jeep Cherokee, Nissan Rogue, Toyota RAV4, Mazda CX-5, Jeep Wrangler, Volkswagen Tiguan, Mitsubishi Outlander, Subaru Forester, and GMC Terrain.www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2018/06/top-20-highest-quality-cars-by-segment-2018.html

[@quantumjim45]

General comment/question - Is your preference for LED's ("wish LED's were on all levels of the CR-V") aesthetic or functional? It seems to me that IIHS (and Consumer Reports) have shown headlight ratings going down significantly with the use of LED headlight designs - often rating fair or poor and as an older driver, I have to look for excellent or at least good headlight ratings.

[@valdius85]

I'm 5ft5, CR-V is one of the most comfortable SUV. RAV4 armrest is short and doesn't slide so it is sort of useless for me. I do not understand why manufacturers avoid sliding armrest or armrest on the seat. It looks less premium but actually works! At least in Japan, CR-V, or any other Honda, doesn't offer heated steering wheel. This is one of the major luxury features for me. I do not care about leather. So I'd have to go elsewhere. Toyota offers that even in small Siena minivan, which is my most likely purchase in the future. SUVs just do not match any minivans in terms of utility. Recent Honda decisions are surprising to me: ignoring the issues with 1.5T, no heated steering wheel, no AWD setting on their AWD models, no AWD trims for many of their models. Fewer features at a higher price. BTW: my little NA engine Honda smells gasoline as well. Often when starting the car first time in the day, there is a gasoline scent inside. It goes away if I keep the windows open for some time.

[@alheiman9525]

I have a sliding armrest in my 2013 Rav4 and hate it. Can't please everyone all of the time.

[@valdius85]

@@alheiman9525 Why do you hate it? For me I just cannot reach it due to height ;)

[@alheiman9525]

@@valdius85 I don't really hate it. I'm 6'4", so my seat is all the way back so I don't need it forward. Every once in while, my arm accidentally pulls it forward.

[@valdius85]

@@alheiman9525 It makes sense. For me it is somehow strange, that a Japanese manufacturer doesn't do any minor changes for the Japanese market. I am average height in Japan so most people have similar issues. What T. did instead is put 2.0l engine and mounted to the CVT ;( Anyway, RAV4 sells exceptionally well in Japan.

[@jamesmedina2062]

Waldemar Ishibashi The leather steering wheels get warmer than vinyl, so dont need to be heated. I am not liking the Honda ventilation in my 2017 Civic as with Recirc button, polluted air from dirty cars enters my car easily. I think it's a defect in design.

[@TheWVgoodguy22]

I wish that Toyota would make an Adventure Hybrid trim/model, because that is what I would be going for out of the two and perhaps the whole segment aside from the Trailhawk trim in the thankfully refreshed Jeep Cherokee. There are some others that I like in the segment including the Chevy Equinox with the 2.0L Turbo, The Forester Sport and Mazda CX-5 as well. I really want a mid sized truck like the Colorado ZR2, but may have to go with a low mileage certified pre-owned compact crossover. I wasn't interested in the RAV-4 until this new model came out. Definitely looks Tacoma inspired and there isn't anything wrong with that. Thanks for sharing this comparison of the sales leaders in the segment, which is the hottest segment going.

[@hummadmalik]

Excellent review, I have a request can you please make a comparison video of the Honda safety sense (CR-V) vs Toyota safety sense (RAV4).

[@robato9679]

Great comparison video! Please note a very important correction: RAV4 Hybrid uses Toyota's eCVT, gas models get the 8-speed.

[@jmrdrgz]

I dont have to watch the video to give thumbs up. I really like these comparison videos.

[@stuartclubb4302]

At 7:25 it would have been nice to see the fold flat rear-seat of the CR-V vs the RAV4

[@allthewade]

Very well done

[@mobilecommunicationsnetwor5268]

Do the CRV require the new oil? GF-6 is the newest ILSAC engine oil performance standard aimed at improving fuel economy and enhancing engine capabilities for passenger cars. This new standard, effective May 1, 2020, will replace the current ILSAC GF-5 standard. Every new level of standard is backward compatible with the previous generation.

[@vegasmooch]

I'm more worried about whether Honda fixed the oil dilution problems in the 1.5T engines.

[@mobilecommunicationsnetwor5268]

@@vegasmooch both reliability scopes would be interesting to get the latest data on consumer reports.

[@tousshong9438]

No prove, just smoke so until hard data and longevity test has been confirm...it's false advertisement.

[@jamesmedina2062]

vegasmooch Look, the Honda 1.5 engine is compromised somewhat like many engines. love it or leave it, they wil not change it until next model changes. It warms up slowly, high particulate emissions, requires more oil changes.

[@njshore9272]

I thought the RAV4 hybrid had a CVT and the gas version had the 8 speed automatic. Am I wrong?

[@Tushkoo270]

Rav4 hybrid uses a ECVT

[@rncondie]

Toyota ECVT uses planetary gears.

[@tonysoottinanchai501]

The Rav4 engine(non-hybrid) is really shaky, noisy, and unrefined. But it doesn't have the oil dilution concerns that the CR-V engines have. Maybe I just have to go with the electrics.

[@jamesmedina2062]

Tony Soottinanchai There is Mitsubishi too. Buy used V6 Highlander or Lexus RX 350

[@paulbenoit9431]

Another well done review, Alex. However there was no mention of the oil dilution and parasitic battery drain issues the Honda has. These are well documented on other sites and owner blogs and would negatively impact the owner experience.

[@user-ix5wr5vf1v]

Both made in Canada! High quality products!

[@ejlafleur14]

Not a totally fair match up of Touring vs XLE trims as they have different targets as Touring is the top end trim and the XLE is designed to be Toyota's volume grade. Now, personally I do drive a '19 XLE Premium which does add the Softex Seating surfaces with memory for the driver seat, 19" wheels, and an available 11 speaker JBL system which sounds great. I like the engine note as well, and find the cabin quite even with Snow Tires on right now. This grade is available only with the Gas engine, but with almost 10,000 miles in 10 months avg 29 mpg in mix driving. Overall I do find this vehicle a great value due to the number of premium features and feel the RAV4 has for the price.

[@windanthonystream]

Rav 4 for me until Honda does something about oil dilution in the 1.5 turbo..

[@moeanthony9308]

Hey flyer. I thought that was solved.????

[@tails300]

Moe Anthony they say it has been but don’t believe them, that engine needs a whole redesign.

[@windanthonystream]

They haven't fixed it. My wife has a 2019 and the Honda Mechanic suggested that we change the oil every 2500 miles and he agreed they haven't fixed it. The engine dilution is suppose to be a problem in cold climates. I live in Las Vegas and it rarely gets below freezing temps in the winter. It usually averages in the 60's in the winter and it's hot as hell in the summer.

[@moeanthony9308]

@@tails300 oh wow ok

[@moeanthony9308]

@@windanthonystream so 2020 same or fix?

[@AsadAli-ci2nq]

Alex.. you are the best .. 👌👍👍

[@schuylerking6704]

I test drove a 2021 Rav 4 XLE Premium and it does have a start / stop disable button and an indicator light on the driver display. BTW when driving with the system on the car shutters when it restarts itself. Enough to be distracting.

[@gene978]

I think the CR-V is nicer. It has a Coffee cup on the instrument cluster. Does the RAV4 Offer Coffee? Haha

[@kdomster9141]

CRV offers worst transmisson CVT and 1.5t that is should be replaced under warranty but Honda has no balls to admit they screwed up !

[@mardamek]

It surprises me to hear that the RAV4 has better handling than the CR-V, and it is a good surprise. Haven't driven the RAV4, but drove the CR-V the other day and it felt like I could live with that car, except for the turbocharged engine/CVT combo, which is what drove me towards the RAV4. And now, when you said the handling is sharper in the RAV4, it makes it even more attractive (in spite of my preference for the CR-Vs interior and exterior looks and dimensions). At least now I'll know why I'm sacrificing a little bit of back seat and luggage space :)

[@modmatt1]

Lease, I would most likely get the CRV for the reasons you mentioned (mostly practicality) without having to worry about potential long term issues of the CVT and Oil dilution, but would hold judgement till I dove the it as I don't like the way CVTs feel. I would go off the list here and choose the Mazda CX-5 however for the best styling, traditional automatic and beautiful interior.

[@levimagnusson5880]

I read somewhere stating that the oil dilution was fixed. I think those issues started around 2017 or 2018, so I’m very sure they’ve fixed it by now.

[@modmatt1]

@@levimagnusson5880 carcomplaints site lists at least several listings for 2019 CRVs for oil dilution and I'm not aware of any specific fix so as I said I would lease only due to "potential" oil dilution issue. I've owned Honda's in the past and am a fan of them in general as Honda vehicles seem to hit the right mix of steering feel, room, suspension and reliability.

[@holygeezer3369]

I'll take a Subaru Forester over these two any day. Nothing beats the visibility out of a Forester. Great mileage too. And Subaru has arguably the best implementation of AWD.

[@isacv2182]

RAV4 4x4 hybrid the better option overall best in segment! It’s better fuel efficient then the 2x4 and a bit more faster in the acceleration department. Also the planetary (Called E-CVT which should not confused with CVT) is a joy to every day use. until CRV hybrid rise it’s not a fair match!

[@valdius85]

Alex: I must say you look sharp. Great! ;)

[@donsang4988]

A diet that works!😎😎😎

[@AYouTubeChannelwithNoName]

S H A R P

[@hollowdog9049]

Cargo of both look microscopic compared to a Honda Element.

[@JulezWinnfield]

That's an astute observation.......in 2005.

[@happybiscuit7901]

Brother owned an Element. We never found a cargo load we couldn’t fit!!

[@greathornedowl3644]

Comparisons like these get my undies in a bundle. Trim levels are like apple and oranges (Honda top end trim vs Toyota Hybrid - what a shock Hybrid has better mpg and quieter engine), and why highest trim level vs entry or mid-level trim? If I am going to spend $35k avg for an SUV upgrade to a Sorento, Pilot, Highlander, or CX9. All things being equal base model Rav4 LE and Honda LX, numbers (space and mpg) point to Honda, but CVT and problems with 1.5 engine (oil), both 4 cyls are chain driven, Toyota’s engine non-interfering. Why both companies, especially Honda, are not pouring money into best selling models to make greater profit margins?

[@afcgeo882]

M. W. It’s because manufacturers like to only provide their best-equipped cars to the press and Alex owns the more regularly spec’d Rav4. Until reviewers out their foot down and demand mid-level trims, manufacturers will continue to do this. Also, the Toyota engine is a port/direct injection system, while Honda’s 1.5 is DI (with its issues) AND the Honda has a CVT, but Toyota has transmission issues.

[@Accost2u]

Crosstrek and Cx-30 would be a good comparison too!

[@swanblake]

The Crosstrek cant even get up to 60mph hahaha

[@LuisGonzalez-sb9lx]

Blake Swan i was gonna comment that 😅

[@SuperRishabh21]

Hello very informative video. I am in a process to buy myself a new car. Debating between crv sports vs rav 4 xle so please may i have your advise. Please and thank you.

[@afcgeo882]

Alex, can you please check if you can latch all three rear belts properly? On the plus re-facelift CRV you could not and there are class-action lawsuits in the courts. Thanks!

[@CarMojo]

I can only disagree in so many things. It seems that here in Europe we're having completely different models. Because: - interior space is very comparable. headroom is about 0.5" better in RAV4 in the front, 1" better in RAV4 in the back. legroom for the driver is about 1" better in RAV4 , CRV has about 1.5" more for rear passengers. driver's seat is better in RAV4 because of larger range of movement, especially vertically. seat's length is 440mm in both RAV4 and CRV. - cargo capacity is better in RAV4 (580 litres vs 561 in CRV, 497 litres in CRV hybrid). it is of much more better shape, wider, longer, and you can have a spare even in hybrid. forget the spare in CRV hybrid. - interior quality is considerably better in RAV4, CRV feels quite cheap even with that fake wood trim (comparing highest trims for both cars). - exterior/built quality is much more better in RAV4, it is more robust. CRV has many parts made of very thin plastic, wobbly almost everywhere. - fuel economy is pretty much the same for both RAV4 hybrid and CRV hybrid. CRV is slightly better in the city, but the more you drive above 45-50mph, the better is RAV4. - as for AWD, CRV performed better on rollers, but surprisingly RAV4 i-AWD was doing better in real-world off-road test. - not to mention the CVT vs e-CVT (power splitter/planetary gear). belt-driven CVTs (CRV) are not suitable for high-torque engines. so try to avoid CVTs when your driving requires lots of high-torque situations like heavy off-roading or towing a heavy trailer.

[@f181234]

Car Mojo you shouldn’t be buying these types of suvs if you want to go off-roading or towing

[@jamesmedina2062]

The thin Honda plastic is being sourced from China and will contribute over time to rattles, noises, and parts breaking. Honda's dealers mark up the parts three times from say 150 dollars to 550 dollars price. Robbery pricing on the flimsy China made parts.

[@gregpatterson134]

Alex, great reviews. I'm shopping both and need to drive daily on dirt roads and need subaru like light off road ability, but want the long-term no-fuss reliability of Honda and Toyota. Since you've driven both, in the Rav Adventure is it more practical and does it really have the off road edge in mud/dirt/rutted out roads? But is the CRV more refined on long road trips and more comfortable than the Rav? Thanks

[@safajordan8012]

I have a night vision problem. Which has stronger lights? as I can see, CRV has smaller front lights but unsure how other factors do. What’s your advice?

[@CaliforniaMISC]

Waiting for CRV hybrid

[@680ecks]

They are almost the same but with the nonturbo and reg eight speed i think its the way to go being the less reliable turbo and cvt dont gain any economy over the Toyota and they are more complex.

[@thanoscy]

I found my self having difficult time get in and out of RAV4 hitting my head at the top of the car, and I'm only 1,80 tall. May be its just me as no else ever mentioned this. Please comment if you hat similar experience.

[@alheiman9525]

I'm 6'4"and I have no issue with getting in and out, or headroom. Make sure the seat isn't to high. I couldn't get in the Rav4 on the showroom floor until I lowered the seat.

[@rightlanehog3151]

The TNGA generation of cars is not designed for taller drivers.

[@DavidDLee]

I don't understand how C&D and Motor Trend clocked the RAV4 at ~8.1 sec 0-60 whereas Alex clocked it significantly faster at 7.5 sec. All other reviews I read said the CR-V's engine is much better and that the RAV4 sounds unpleasant at high RPMs.

[@markperalta2995]

Toyota just upped it's hybrid battery warranty to 10 years/150,000 miles and that includes the incoming Plug-in RAV4 Prime.

[@markguest77]

You can’t go wrong with either.

[@jduran111]

I can’t find a video comparing the 2018 style to the 2019 newer model of the Toyota RAV4. I have I 2018 model and I would like to know what changed, good or bad. Please send me a link if you see one. Thank you!

[@dmarie1157]

Had my '21 CRV -EX (non-hybrid) over a month now. In combo city/hwy, I have averaged 35 mpg with cvt in eco mode,

[@dondenis1500]

I wish both of these vehicles would use a tradition automatic instead of CVT.

[@TidewaterC]

Toyota has STILL not fixed the gas tank fill issue with the 2020 hybrid. Buyer beware.

[@jackp2563]

No problem with my 2019 RAV4 hybrid. 1000 km per tank in summer. 800km winter.

[@JAM_2024]

Honda still has not fixed the oil dilution issue with the 2020 turbo

[@bvedant]

And Nissan still hasn't done squat about the CVT in the Rogue. CX-5 seems to be the only safe option

[@savic1984]

@@bvedant new mazda dont look nice to me at all and mazda never felt like a safe choice maybe the new ones are good but i cant shake the image of the rusted mazdas here in canada

[@bvedant]

@@savic1984 I guess you want the Ford Pisscape then

[@matthuber8456]

Your comment about the button to disable auto stop/start is not quite right for the RAV4. Yours doesn't have it because it's a hybrid, which makes sense. My 2020 gas XLE does have the button to disable it.

[@N2LADIES55]

I'd pick the CR-V especially the hybrid when it's for sale. I don't like the way the Rav4 looks and the complaints of cabin noise.

[@DeanHalpernsVideos]

I'm going to buy either the CR-V Hybrid or the Rav4 Prime. CR-V Hybrid releases in April and Rav4 Prime in July. So hard to wait! I totally concur with Alex on Autos -- the Rav4 Prime is gonna step up the styling and performance and that will be so tempting, along with the 39 miles all-electric. The CR-V does seem to have a more upscale interior and less road noise. The doors seem beefier on the CR-V. But the Prime is gonna look baddass both inside and out - - kinda of a younger look, and I'm 54, but what the heck, you only live once. ;-) Rav4 Prime will be a head-turner, for sure. That's usually not my thing, but with so many other pluses, including the dual-pane moonroof and better dash layout, I think it's gonna be the Prime.

[@cyrilmatthew2995]

I think Honda could have used the 11 spd auto as well as the good old 2.4 NA gas ....

[@fr373969]

Excellent

[@decentrik]

Funny part is the Rav4 Hybrid currently has a Gas Tank Issue. The older Honda CRVs have the same issue but honda give up trying to fix it lol!

[@PandorasFolly]

I'm 6'5" with a very tall torso, and I like my seat to be almost straight up I had trouble with the CRVs head room. Sales guy was like "oh yeah you'll be able to fit no problem." Cue coconut sound everytime we went over the slightest bump. Buts not the CRV alone, new Tacomas do the same thing, and I cant even get in a Ford taurus.

[@jamesmedina2062]

Jason Dossett Subaru Forester, Mazda CX-5, or Ford Explorer worth tries? I know GM fit tall people well but I can't ask you buy GM unless it's a Camaro!

[@igeekone]

RAV4 Hybrid, no hesitation.

[@ianlee5008]

How you compare a top trim crv to a mid level rav4 🤔

[@johnknox2303]

Indeed, Alex has always shown his dislike to Toyota in suttle ways ...

[@PandorasFolly]

@@johnknox2303 I noticed that. Just the entire time, subtly better camera angles.

[@kenkozawa9810]

probably a stretch but Alex do y'all think you'll replace the RAV4 Hybrid with the RAV4 Prime? the Prime looks very promising for this segment even if you don't charge it..

[@mohammedlabeeb]

Is it just me or this is the first video Alex has different/new pants from the blue jeans I used to see him in almost all his videos lol 🤣

[@JosueRamirez]

Here in Mexico the CRV is about 2.5 grands(USD) more expensive than RAV4 except for top trims. I went for a 2020 XLE RAV4 just for that reason. But I like CRV a little more due its space and practical cabin. At least I won AWD and sun roof with the RAV4.

[@kathysmith4026]

Still concerned about oil dilution on honda

[@digitaldoc100]

More than concerned, Honda never addressed the issue, and continues to sell it year after year. Folks have reported having to change their oil every 2k miles and their dipstick smells perpetually like gasoline. Long term longevity of the CR-V is also going to be a problem for many owners.

[@jamesmedina2062]

the 1.5 has tradeoffs, namely it is much more expensive to maintain, not refined either via any counterbalancing that K-series engines feature. better to buy Civic with 2.0, K20, port injected. Unless you need the extra room or height then can settle on a SUV and added costs

[@digitaldoc100]

@@jamesmedina2062 There are other SUV's to buy other than the CR-V with this flawed engine...

[@bvsuber1]

Doesn't the RAV4 hybrid have a CVT? I know that the regular one is an 8 speed transmission.

[@rncondie]

Oil dilution on the Honda CRV turbo is enough for me to choose the Rav 4

[@yiranjack]

good luck. www.caranddriver.com/news/a30997060/2020-toyota-recall-camry-avalon-rav4-engine-cracks/

[@epingf2000]

Good review but no.1 Mazda CX 5 2 Honda CR-V 3 Toyota RAV-4

[@alheiman9525]

Mazda shouldn't be on any list unless you are short

[@epingf2000]

Al Heiman i’m 5.9’ Not too short

[@alheiman9525]

@@epingf2000 well that's 5 inches shorter than me, and I don't fit comfortably. Doesn't matter though because I hated the interior. Exterior looks nice though.

[@alheiman9525]

@guy proulx I actually drove the new Ford escape hybrid, even though I sorta hate Ford. It's much more car like, even more than the CRV, but wow. I was totally impressed with the hybrid system. I was actually pretty impressed with almost everything. Not in love with the look, but it's OK. Rav4 still looks the best, but the Rav4 has the worst looking wheels, and the escape has the best wheels. Best thing was that they throw $5000 off without any dealing. That'll make it hard to buy the Rav4 or CRV, because they aren't throwing off anything near that and are are higher to start with.

[@alheiman9525]

@guy proulx I didn't know that Ford payed Toyota royalties, but the Ford hybrid just seemed better. It didn't seem the same at all, plus when the engine kicked in, it was a lot quieter. My problem has been that the price is just getting out of range for the Toyota, and I'm not willing to give up features. I won't be buying for a couple of months at least. I'll have to see if they are willing to offer some better deals on the Rav4, or maybe since I'm trading a Rav4, Toyota will give me more for trade to make it worth it.

[@keithnewton8981]

The rav4 hybrid has cvt. It has a digital dash display your car clip shiw yge ice dash if rav 4?