Battle of the Pads: Offworld vs Xymox !!!

[@throwingshade6720]

A friend of mine ordered a xymox tenor pad in December of 2017, it still has not shipped to this day

[@SnareMan]

That's so bad it's funny.

[@MoNFPV]

All they have to do is email. They’ll get a lot of free stuff.

[@SnareMan]

@@MoNFPV What free stuff?

[@thebigt4866]

What you need to do is tweet at them and say how bad the customer service is and they will make sure to send it. That what I did

[@SnareMan]

@@thebigt4866 Did it work?

[@deannatale8349]

*This comment is for anyone considering buying a Xymox* I've had a 14" reserve snare for a little over a year. The most important thing to know if you are buying a Xymox is that you should NEVER pay full price. They regularly go on sale for 50% off (several times a year) and as of now (February 2, 2019) they are having a 50% off sale. If you want to know when those sales are, follow them on Instagram or other social media--they post when sales are going on. I bought my fully customized 14" pad for $50 plus shipping (making it cheaper than the Offworld), and if you want a 12" one it's even cheaper. Mine took about 5 months to get to me, and that's a pretty normal wait time (they are hand assembled in the U.S.A. which is why it takes so long). As far as durability goes, after a year of intense usage (about an hour a day, every day) it still works perfectly, but cosmetically it's in rough shape. The paint comes off over time of hitting the wood on the sides, and I've cracked the laminate on the head in the center (it doesn't feel any different, just looks bad) in a couple places. Aside from having to wait a long time, which I knew was the case, I've loved the pad. It feels VERY similar to a marching snare head and sounds just like a marching snare sounds when you've got earplugs in. Other things to note: the rim does tend to chew up sticks over time if you hit as hard as I do. Also you can always buy different rims or lugs on the website if you want to change it up. I would strongly recommend buying one if you have the patience to wait for a sale and wait out the delivery time (maybe get an Evans RealFeel to hold yourself over because it's a really good feeling all-purpose pad that's cheap and easy to find). Hopefully this is informative to anyone curious.

[@dalenphvsth4573]

How loud is the pad? Is louder than most of the pads you own?

[@deannatale8349]

Davidnotbrave 2 it’s louder than your average pad. I bought it as a replacement to getting an actual snare for recording myself playing licks and stuff. If you’re looking for something only for practice and quiet, there are much cheaper options out there by Evans or VicFirth or ProLogix.

[@aetsmbotas8820]

And this has been a reading from the book of XymoX.

[@kentosalazar]

i've broken my nice mapes stick hitting the rim :(

[@rileyleonard5958]

Dude i love xymox and their regular sales. Ive never bought a pad or anything from them because im mostly a mallet percussionist with drums being a 2nd instrument (my handmedown invader has always worked well for me) but im considering a xymox as i take drums more and more seriously and this comment alone was super helpful. Not sure if you know this but i had an instructor whos xymox pad had cracked and gotten beaten up real bad over time and he had mentioned that he was gonna ship it out to xymox and they would fix it up for him. I dont know if they actually do that or if he ever got his fixed but if you ever feel like getting yours fixed it might be worth looking into.

[@ryanknight6504]

i started practicing snare for drum corps almost exactly one month ago. I ordered an offworld v3 and some ralph hardimon signatures, and they felt great, and while the pad was delayed, it still came in 4 or 5 days. I had my first auditions last Saturday, and while I was there I played a marching snare drum for the very first time, and nobody noticed that I hadn't played on a real drum before that! The pad feels great, and while i played on some realfeels and what not before I got my invader, they were nothing like real drums. The invader was just like it though. Great job Offworld!

[@SnareMan]

Great job!

[@an4yb7ack]

I have offworld, beetle, real feel, rampad, prologix vortex, movement, vicfirth slimpad and I do have the xymox reserve 14 inch. I never play my xymox the fact that it took 6 months just to get the wrong rim left a bad taste in my mouth and I feel it was not worth it. I would definitely not order another one ever. I would always go offworld all day everyday you get your money's worth and you get to practice. Of all the pads I listed I love them all but I'm done with xymox. I'm going to be trying a company called reflexx soon and they look awesome 😎

[@malditobandito98]

Bro, I LITERALLY went through the same thing, lol. They gave me the wrong rim as well, blue on blue doesn't look good, and it took em about 9 months for me. I NEVER touch that pad. It's still sitting pretty in my closet in the box. I just stick to my 3 year old Offworld Invader. It's never failed me

[@stickslinger96]

It took me 5 months to get my xymox snare pad and 6 months to get my tenor pad. Never again will I buy new from xymox! I found others and Craig’s list etc

[@miacasual1263]

I loooove beetle sm

[@an4yb7ack]

Beetle is amazing such a pleasure to play on them and great costumer service I love beetle I have 4 pads

[@AL-pt1ne]

What beetle percussion pad do you have? And how is the rebound compared to the invader? Thanks

[@Paradiddles.1]

Great review man! We need more reviewers like you that can give an in depth criticism for percussive products.

[@SnareMan]

Thanks for the kind of word is Michael! It was a fun review to make

[@powellpowell3152]

SnareMan how you’re doing I’m a big fan of the snare drum and I’m going to the 9th grade and I’m going to join the marching band and I’m going to learn the snare drum and I want a solid practice pad to play on and after watching you play you’re the man and I love your video I would love the invader 3 because it will be here in two days and you can’t beat that. Xymox is a great pad but the ahead s hoop pad is the same thing as that so I would like to see you do a review on that and please get back to me okay thanks

[@lidt6445]

“Percussive” is word??

[@Paradiddles.1]

@@lidt6445 it certainly is my dude

[@sock8278]

my friend got a xymox pad and the plastic on top broke open and is tearing off after around 2 years of having it. he's had an offworld pad for around the same time and it's still in great shape and still works well

[@jonnyguillen8375]

I'm the percussion caption head for my band and drumline and some of my kids ordered a Xymox pad and went through the same problem. It took so long for them to get their pad but it only took 1 day to get my invader from amazon.

[@dane.2079]

Thanks for the video. I really enjoy playing on both these pads. I also still have my original 25 year old real feel and an old Remo (10" maybe) . When my son ordered the Xymox a couple years ago, he had it within a very short time. I do enjoy the snare sound you get with the Xymox.

[@imrc_dark4224]

Still waiting on my Tenor kick I ordered 7 months ago 🙄

[@acousticfoam4184]

iMRC Dark i found a xymox tenor on eBay for 70 bucks. Shipped in a week and is the best deal i ever found on a tenor pad.

[@timeoutwithtony3646]

Looking at the comments makes me not wanna buy a xymox lol

[@deannatale8349]

Check out my comment I just posted up above if you wanna hear my experience

[@Queeze101]

Don't. Service has been embarrassing from day one and for years. The sound gets tiring fast, but sounds great outside though. Pricey AF! And I personally started missing the gummy feel of other pads. And if you're drumming indoors, it's pretty loud So be aware of that depending on where you are.

[@demonghost6361]

That’s why I ordered an Ahead pad off of amazon. Only $60 too!

[@archivedinformation7689]

They’re customer service is better now, just don’t get a hybrid snare drum

[@user-pv9cf4fr6d]

I am in the same situation. I ordered my pad August 2018 and my order still has not been completed due to incorrect rim (because they are STILL out of stock). Its been 5 months and they keep giving false estimated times. “2 weeks, 2 more weeks, etc. Mind blown managment have not simply reach out to new suppliers. I am also waiting for the black rims. I have both pads as well, not worth waiting. I will likely file a Better Business Bureau complaint and have them contact xymox instead of wasting my own time following up. I recommend you do the same.

[@SnareMan]

I think they told me in their last email they had a new supplier. Said to contact them on 1/9 which I did. Waiting to hear back.

[@taylorm520]

I've had a similar situation. I ordered mine during a July 4th promotional sale last year, and it didnt come in until this Jan 14th. And they changed the color of the sky blue rim to a royal blue type color... but did not even mention this to me. I would've requested a different color if that was ever mentioned.. I was really appalled and I wonder if some legal actions could be taken against them? Seems like false advertising to me.. They also failed to tell me they were going to change the bottom rubber side from almost fully covering the bottom to just having four small circles of rubber.. I wasnt notified once... I like your idea of contacting the BBB and may do that myself...

[@cmikulski]

You’d be surprised how quickly they get their shit together once you’ve file a complaint!

[@cmikulski]

I ordered a low profile double and 14” double and they replaced them with something else without asking me what I wanted to do. I would have preferred to get my money back because I already had a couple reserve snares and don’t need another, really bad customer service.

[@xymoxsux]

@@cmikulski sounds cool, but after I filed complaints, they just sent me the wrong pad. A piece of s*** I didn't order .

[@ianYT36]

I have an off world but it was always weighing down my backpack. Thought about getting a Xymox but heard it took a LONG time to deliver and I wasn’t going to waste my money. Instead I got a RamPad. Got it in blue, best decision I made. Got to my house in 3 days and is so light I carry it in my backpack every time I go to band practice, to be honest, yes, Xymox is great for snare sound, but I am currently on the bass line and I wanna be on the snare line, but still I love my RamPad because it has great sound and rebound, and love that it doesn’t weigh down my backpack! Expensive, but worth it.

[@petenite]

Hi! Non-Snare Player, Music major here! I ordered a reserve Xymox pad recently. I’m taking a percussion class at college and I’ve been dying to get one of their pads since high school. I’m honestly really not impressed with their customer service/manufacturing either. If I came to your videos first, I probably would have never bought from them. But at the time, I thought it would be a great time to buy a pad from them. Now I’m waiting on an email from customer service, crossing my fingers to hear a response. I might send another one later this week. Now I’m in a similar boat. I bought a Vic Firth Pad, just so I had something to play on for class. Thank god I settled on the Reserve too, after I’ve seen what you’ve been through with the hybrid, I really felt pretty okay with my purchase. Which isn’t saying much considering how bad the service is to begin with. I really wanted to get a xymox tenor pad in high school as well. But now I’m really reconsidering that as well. Do you have any suggestions for a good pitched tenor pad? I own a Vic Firth tenor pad, which has served me well, but I’m just curious if you know anything about that too. Anyways, take it easy! Thanks for making these videos, they’re very helpful!

[@SnareMan]

Check out my latest video. Don't expect ANY response from their customer no-service people. I sent 17 emails about my broken drum with no response. kzbin.info/www/bejne/hoGyZ3iVpruDotE

[@napoleonsmith3028]

Xymox, delivering pads 3 months late since always

[@subbot8077]

Psh, only three months?

[@daniellepeterson1666]

Napoleon Smith mines 6 months so far, still haven’t gotten it

[@gannondrums2741]

Danielle Peterson 6? Try 18!

[@connorm.8323]

It’s been since may 2019 and I haven’t got it

[@graemewright1849]

@@connorm.8323 June 2019 here!

[@warrior12328]

Do yourself a favor and consider other brands than spending money on xymox percussion. If you have 100 plus dollars to spend on a pad buy drumslinger.

[@athantroquille7605]

rcp

[@warrior12328]

Athan Troquille I’ve been seeing them a lot on Instagram. I like what their doing.

[@kingmezna]

They go on sale very often for half off especially around holidays

[@malditobandito98]

warrior12328 Drumslinger customer service is worse than Xymox, that’s saying something

[@loucontino4804]

Just so you know Offworld customer service is outstanding. Had questions on using Armour All And they answered me same day.

[@SnareMan]

They certainly couldn't be any worse than Xymox. I

[@chuckhogan7625]

Been waiting 16 months for my son's Xymox pad. Wish I saw this video before ordering.

[@SnareMan]

Not surprising unfortunately

[@mase8832]

I can understand that the Xymox pads are made to order but still it takes way too long. I'm from latin america and bought a 14" reserve pad and it took nearly a year to get mine shipped to Panamá and have it in my hands. Edit: forgot to add, I bought my pad on a promotion they did that didn't have customisation. It was only the pad with an extra rim so it should've been a shorter wait

[@SnareMan]

I agree - definitely too long

[@1069JKT]

I ordered one 8 days ago and it arrived today. Maybe since they dialed back all the customization stuff it’s just shipping what’s in inventory.

[@chrislugo5838]

Just ordered mine last week, fingers crossed 🤞 if they come through I might order a tenor kick as well

[@1069JKT]

@@chrislugo5838 I had no issues at all.

[@nathanhavey1]

what was that exercise you played at 12:44 ? i have to know what that is, it looks like such a good warm up

[@SnareMan]

It's two exercises put together. First one is called Flam thing (mostly just the check pattern with the variations), second one is first half of the exercise called Susie. Bluecoats and a bunch of other people play it. I think it originated back in the 80s or 90s

[@nickisacoff7100]

@@SnareMan Do you know anywhere to buy/find the sheet music for Flam thing? been searching for 30 minutes now and cant seem to find anything

[@SnareMan]

@@nickisacoff7100 I'll see if I can find it for you later tonight

[@SnareMan]

@@nickisacoff7100 umassdrumline.org/wp-content/uploads/Flam-Thing-2017.pdf

[@SnareMan]

I took that and just added my own variations

[@harulau0902]

Yeah , I have been waiting for my Xymox pad from May 2018 and it's didnt' arrived yet until now! Crazy

[@powellpowell3152]

Chi Ho Lau are you serious man that’s way tooooo long

[@johnsea3615]

Can you do a review on the movement drum co. snare pad?

[@SnareMan]

I'll have to see if I can get one

[@powellpowell3152]

IamOnlyArchon amazon sells them as well

[@powellpowell3152]

SnareMan amazon sells that as well

[@jakemanfm2]

When I ordered my xymox pad in August I believe and they claimed to be in the process of expansion

[@SnareMan]

That's clearly going well for them

[@OddDrummerGaming]

Great video! I ordered a Xymox pad for my nephew for his 5th birthday. He still hasn't received it and he just reached drinking age. I am exaggerating of course lol... I have a Xymox pad; I also recently bought a Reflexx pad and I like it. Have you tried the Reflexx pad?

[@BareTactical]

the xymox pad sounds amazing to me but i get anxiety waiting for a pizza to show up, so i guess ill go with the offworld v3 hybrid for now and maybe order the xymox with hopes of receiving it some time in 2022

[@SnareMan]

Don't even think about giving them your money. They are a completely worthless company. You will never see it again

[@BareTactical]

@@SnareMan yeah i ended up ordering the v3 hybrid. been practicing on an evans realfeel and thats fine and everything but wanted something with a little sizzle. also I'm not able to drop $600 on a snare. thanks for the heads up, i know this video is old but tbh i was hoping maybe they actually got their shit together and stopped ripping high school kids off for money they don't have.

[@SnareMan]

@@BareTactical No, they are no better. My hybrid snare broke, again, and I can't even get them to return an email to get a new rim for it after 11 emails to them.

[@BareTactical]

@@SnareMan offworld is no better?

[@SnareMan]

@@BareTactical oops. I meant that xymox is no better than they ever were. They haven't improved at all. Offworld should be great

[@ryangroom2959]

When you play them together it sounds like the clack sound when you type on a keyboard

[@SnareMan]

It does kind of

[@bradleighwilliams4527]

Dude, I ordered their “new” tenor kick things six months go and have yet to receive it. And they aren’t responding to my emails either.

[@SnareMan]

They at least respond to my emails, but the wait isn't shocking.

[@powellpowell3152]

That’s crazy man I never heard nothing like that

[@drumwithjay7022]

OffWorld makes many different pads. Some with a snare feature. The invader pad is an indestructible simple pad you can take anywhere!

[@andybittenbender4562]

Thanks for the review! It really helps me made the decision to find a new pad!

[@SnareMan]

No problem. Thanks for watching!

[@allieb.2020]

Entirely agree with xymox customer service. They forgot to ship mine until I brought it up to them almost a year later and then sent me a pad I didn’t order. Xymox customer service was not very helpful and still don’t have exactly what I ordered. It’s been over a year.

[@DennisJohnsonDrummer]

Update- Offworld now makes a pad with snare sound! Move over Xymox. Great customer service is here and with a snare sound pad. BYOS

[@SnareMan]

I saw that. I need to give it a try.

[@caden972]

Took me over a year to get my xymox tenor pad

[@SnareMan]

Crazy!

[@hmuphilly9129]

Very nice editing and I think both pads have their own weakness and strengths but xymox needs customer service training..

[@SnareMan]

They very much do. I agree.

[@hmuphilly9129]

So, I'm not a drum corps or in any college drumline since the same story like you, college, work, and reel feel pad in your closet though surprising my pad seems to have survived but keeps spitting out sand?? I'm still using my high school marching snare sticks: Ralph Hardimons with my new invader pad. I been inspired to relearn marching snare again. What sources can I look up? Would appreciate your opinion thanks. Phil

[@saltychip1704]

Hey SnareMan! I love your review videos they are very professional. Could you please do a review on the RCP pad? I’m interested in those pads but there aren’t really any good reviews on it. Thanks!

[@silentninja144]

This video is too addicting, i can’t stop listening to the pads 😅

[@SnareMan]

@@silentninja144 you're welcome to watch it as many times as you like. 🙂🥁

[@Killerace2005]

Do u have sheet music for what u played on both the pads near the end?!? Looks cool I wanna learn it!

[@SnareMan]

The first half is just the check pattern with the variations thrown in that I made up. The second half is part of Suzy, the Bluecoats warmup. There is music on the internet somewhere if you google it.

[@maxdominate2481]

@13:21 - Oh, how I love cheezy rudiments.

[@arQerlovesgigibear]

spot on with the customer service! xymox is horrible if you're lucky enough to speak to them and jerks when you do. i think they're just a bunch of stoners. took 6 months for mine. so long i even forgot about it.

[@jas0n17-bad4]

I ordered the offworld invader v3 blue chameleon and it’s coming tomorrow and I’m so excited

[@SnareMan]

Great choice!

[@derekhwang7056]

Can you review the movement drum co pad and the RCP drum pad? Also, I have both pads and I still use the invader more than my xymox. I mostly use my xymox outside as I prefer its sound over the invader but besides that I rarely use it now. I could input how I had to wait so long and pester customer support for info and such, but regardless of that stuff, once I got my xymox, I was happy with how it turned out minus a few issues, yet even with getting it, the invader just kinda trumps the xymox. IMO what you can get with a xymox is overhyped, it's not a bad pad at all, but with an invader I get all that I need from a pad (and I can still personalize it, like I've slapped a bunch of stickers on mine) I'd say if you need a pad, get an invader or real feel. If you already have one and want one that has the snare sound/a different play feel to it, and you want something really personal (with their iD custom pads) then a xymox, otherwise with its current wait time and other issues that may arise it's just not worth it.

[@SnareMan]

I'll have to see if I can get one

[@an4yb7ack]

I liked how the xymox feels and sounds but I just see the purple rim I didn't want and they gave me the wrong color on the bottom too I waited 6 months if they had given me what I ordered I would have been happy but man 6 months to get the wrong thing smh.

[@SnareMan]

@@an4yb7ack The latest from them is that the new rims should have been in this week. I won't hold my breath

[@an4yb7ack]

Yea lol it's a shame because if they could fix that they would probably sell even more . It's a good unique product.

[@SnareMan]

@@an4yb7ack That's what I told them. They have an awesome product and would make a killing if they could just fix their production issues.

[@cnottagejr]

i love the xymox pad i love that snare sound it sounds very close to a real snare drum but i would love to have both of them cause i want to get back to playing and building up my chops

[@Riyach]

I own both as well (and a few other brands). Both will make you better, it’s s preference. I’m glad you made this video.

[@soup8846]

Can I buy 1 of them off of you I've been looking everywhere and I can't find any. I also don't trust xymox shipping so used makes sense. I will pay full price please

[@Riyach]

@@soup8846 they are available on their website. I just checked. They may differ than what’s here as far as color and style. This comment was over three years ago. Both these pads are done. I’m actually using a outlander pad from Offworld and a couple other pads. Either one of these will help getting your chops. They have gone up a lot though. When I bought mine there were about $60-70. Now they are closer to $100 and the xymox are over $100. I think both are worth it. Hope this helps, happy drumming.

[@soup8846]

@@Riyach I know that they are available on the website but the shipping takes too long and is not reliable

[@82powpow]

Never played on a xymox. I'm scared to order a pad now after I order the hybrid snare and I hear all the problems. Guess I should have done more research. Lol. I got an email saying it's going to be shipped this week. We will see I guess. I own the offworld scojo and the invader hybrid. Both are amazing! I got all the attachments for the hybrid as well. Worth every penny!

[@NathanIntros]

I bought a xymox years back and had no problem BUT, I ordered a pad last year, July 3rd and still haven't received it

[@hectorsaucedo4465]

Underneath the xymox is the same as the purple Vic Firth drumpads. The sticker or whatever invader gave you is the same that’s on top of the Xymox pad.

[@jonathancole4482]

I ordered a tenor pad in December 2019 from xymox. Almost 2 years later and nothing has arrived

[@SnareMan]

Not surprising

[@OMGitsEricE]

On my xymox, the lammanite has peeled off in the center. Can be partly because of the Vic Firth hammers (xymox has said not to play with those sticks on the pad) or it can be due to wear. ( I’ve had the pad for about 5 years now) Hasn’t broken through underneath the actual surface just the top layer. Can be annoying at times just to hear the plastic. Overall still a great pad.

[@deannatale8349]

I've had mine for a little over a year and I've cracked the laminate using standard Promark TXDC17Ws (granted I hit pretty heavily), but it still feels and plays as good as new.

[@OMGitsEricE]

Dean Natale same, kept on cracking even to this day when playing on standard ralphies. Still a good pad nonetheless, Hadn’t had any other trouble with it

[@philstrange5349]

Ordered a xymox pad 10 months ago....got "Xymoxed!"

[@SnareMan]

I'm about 9 months into waiting for my hybrid pad. I like your verb. Maybe I will use it in my video if my pad ever arrives and I can do a video on

[@jonjon2663]

Thanks for the great review. Hey what's that silver subway train model you have in your bottom shelf?

[@SnareMan]

I got it off one of the New York City websites. I think the transit museum website maybe. I think they also sell them at the store in Grand Central

[@graemewright1849]

I ordered a tenor and snare pad from Xymox in June 2019 and have not gotten them lol.

[@SnareMan]

not surprising

[@Traceyinoz]

don’t normally comment on videos but have to say…...Brilliant review! Don’t know much about American drumming but looks and sounds awesome, I play in a flute band (the drumming style is similar to pipe bands (but not as good lol), play same HTS drums. i was looking for a new practice pad (using a Rad Pad at the mo) and after watching this i want them both lol. managed to find a UK dealer "Southern Percussion” and ordered the Offworld Invader V3 Practice Pad (£72 + £4.99pp) should arrive in 2 days :D (went for the chameleon laminate) I will order a 12” xymox reserve in a few days once i decide on colour choice (hopefully they ship to UK) anyway cheers for the review, helped alot

[@SnareMan]

Thanks for the kind words Tracey! Let me know how you like the pads when you get them and how long that xymox pad takes to get. How did you come across this video?

[@Traceyinoz]

@@SnareMan i googled "best marching practice pad", the offworld and xymox was most popular, had never heard of them tho (locally its all Jim Kilpatrick gear), your xymox video was first in the list, i watched loads but this one was the best, explained everything. yeah i will let you know how it goes. lol prob take a year for the xymox but will have the offworld anyway. look forward to trying it out, back to u soon

[@Traceyinoz]

Hi SnareMan just thought I would let u know I finally got my 12" xymox (cobalt metallic version) TODAY!! lol ordered 4th Feb, worth the wait tho, its amazing, love it. got it half price sale, shipping was a bit pricy to the UK then the surprise import fee :o :/ my offworld v3 arrived in 3 days, nice pad and been using it every day but love the xymox defo feels like playing on a real snare, looks and sounds great. happy i have both pads ;) :D

[@howardmanley3388]

Ok thanks for answering me about elbow ,when I watch other videos THIER elbows stay in close to THIER bodies they don’t flare out at all ... evidently I guess it doesn’t matter whether your elbows are out or in ,thank you so much...Howie < God bless

[@SnareMan]

It's not important what style a drumline has, just so long as it has one. 😉🙂

[@lmaolmao784]

Can you do a battle of the pads again?

[@karendickson2723]

I ordered a pad in September from Xymox, no pad has arrived, nice emails, but no follow through. About to order a offworld Invader V3, thanks

[@SnareMan]

They tell me my correct rim is in and should actually be here soon. Maybe you will get yours now

[@stickslinger96]

Took me 5 months to get my Xymox snare pad and 6 1/2 months to get my Xymox tenor pad. Tons of emails with so many excuses, like waiting on shipping boxes, then the new boxes were wrong. The phone number they provided is for out going calls only. If you want a Xymox pad, find them used on EBay etc

[@skigskelska4400]

“They’re both in the ballpark”

[@SnareMan]

huh?

[@kapanimations]

Any idea if Xymox fixed their shipping since this video is 4 years old now? I want a pad that feels like a snare but I don’t want to wait forever

[@SnareMan]

I'm not sure if they are any better. I hear they might be, but I'm not sure. No pad feels just like a drum through and they will all give you pad hands.

[@georgeguest397]

I recently ordered a Xymox. Took about 2 and a half weeks to receive it. I got the 14" one that is pretty much just the top of a marching snare. Awesome pad, just stay on top of the customer service if you order.

[@kapanimations]

@@georgeguest397 Nice to hear they might've fixed their customer service, but I'm probably just going to go with an offworld pad because it seems more reliable and durable. Might look into xymox in the future again but idk.

[@TheJohnnyDIV]

I'm bummed out. I was really excited when I saw xymox, but can't get any questions answered and have seen numerous bad reviews.

[@SnareMan]

For the most part there are only bad reviews and they are not going to respond to emails to you.

[@TheJohnnyDIV]

I have always been looking for a good pad with a snare mechanism, but still could be a versatile pad. I was so excited when I saw the xymox and what they had to offer. I was very intrigued with the ability to customize the pad entirely. When I went through the reviews, I ass a little concerned. I tried to message them to ask a question and couldn't get anything from them and this was back in January. Last night I got a B line offworld and an invader hybrid last night. Really excited for the offworld I ones too.

[@TheJohnnyDIV]

Thanks for the response and for the videos btw.

[@SnareMan]

@@TheJohnnyDIV you're welcome. I try and provide good customer service on my videos. 🙂

[@danieladamczyk08]

If you are impatient, get the offworld. If you want the snare sound(or you are a sucker for brands) and you can wait 8 months, get the xymox.

[@SnareMan]

That sounds about right. Although I could really care less what brand I had, I just wanted the good pad

[@OffWorldPercussionInc]

www.offworldpercussion.com/the-aurora-series/

[@haio6818]

I want you to do a review on the movement drum company marching pad that’s a very nice pad and I like the invader 3

[@crayshaunhenderson1265]

i want a drum pad with plenty of rebound and i want to feel like i'm actually playing a snare drum. xymox sounds very good but i don't want to wait a whole year to get one so i want something i can have in a few days so i can start beating my drum asap. snareman i know you can guide me in the right direction

[@badjames21]

We ordered our sons Custom Quad Pad from XYMOX in November of 2019 and haven't heard anything since. $185 and we need to take a trip to Cali and do a factory tour or something. Don't take very kindly to thieves and horrible customer service. I don't care if you have cute pics of your family on your website or not. I need my Product or my Money.

[@SnareMan]

I totally agree with you

[@powellpowell3152]

I like the sound from the both of them

[@ryanbedell320]

Please keep making these videos

[@SnareMan]

I intend to. :-)

[@keeganherron8022]

The xymox 14 inch is really 13 1/2 so it can fit inside the rim of a 14 inch drum

[@SnareMan]

Ah right. Good point

[@DennisJohnsonDrummer]

I have both of these pads, among others, and there is not enough difference from a rebound standpoint to justify the price difference IMO. If you want the "snare sound" then at present you will have to go with the Xymox. Wishing Offworld would configure a snare sound contraption for their existing pads and then the decision would be a no brainer for me. The Offworld is virtually indestructible and I feel like I can throw it around (not that I do that) with no damage. I baby my Xymox so it does't show wear and tear but it is well made and should hold up to the rigors of high school kids.(although I don;t let the high school kids use it beyond "Hey try this pad out and then I say "Now go buy your own".) Wishing Xymox would improve their customer service. That's really important to me. (and others as well I'm sure).

[@SnareMan]

Agreed - I don't know why their CS is so poor.

[@OffWorldPercussionInc]

www.offworldpercussion.com/the-aurora-series/

[@xavierhileman7048]

Clean bests bro

[@brown55061]

Why do so many bloo bangers love the Steelers? lol You better keep your chops up for 2022! I'm still rocking my 1996 real feal. Doesn't feel very "real" though, and looks like it went through WW3. Good review sir!

[@SnareMan]

Thanks! My Steeler's love started around age 7. Maybe it's that Steelers fans become Bloo Bangers? Mine is pretty well worn and doesn't feel too real either. Hard to believe how old the pad is. I have 3 years to get to the point of not sucking with my chops. :-)

[@toosharp43]

12:44

[@zip7806]

Love the Evil Villon camera angle.

[@SnareMan]

which angle is that?

[@harkiretsingh1952]

Can't we take legal actions on them?? I paid for delivery within 2 weeks..

[@SnareMan]

You can certainly try

[@novabluw6721]

I know this comment is a few years late but what exercise are you playing at the end of the video?

[@SnareMan]

The first half is something I made up to play for the vid and the second half if part of the warmup Do you know Suzie

[@malcolmnotx]

I really want a xymox pad but i’m an impatient person and really don’t know if it’s worth waiting months and months at time

[@SnareMan]

I have the same problem. Thankfully I didn't really know what I was missing so I didn't mind having the Offworld (also a great pad) for a few months.

[@Bobobo-bo-bo-bobobo]

Ordered a DrumSlinger sextet pad a couple of years ago. Waited 6 months and heard nothing from them. I got my money back but needless to say they suck lol

[@nateschmidt1959]

My friend ordered a xymox tenor pad last year and still hasn’t got it

[@SnareMan]

Same here. I ordered one last June with nothing

[@oofkillem1719]

Is their any where else I could possibly get a xymox pad besides ordering it from the actual website? Because after reading the comments I don’t wanna pay that much and risk not getting it

[@SnareMan]

Best you could probably do would be to find one on eBay

[@josephdaranikone1414]

I wish I want a xymox practice pad

[@klyvalero68]

What should i buy the offworld or the xymox i don't know what should i buy.😓

[@SnareMan]

You can't get the Xymox so by the Offworld. Check out my recent videos on their new pads

[@ohyeayeah6827]

Do a review on the ahead snare sound practice pad you will be impressed

[@SnareMan]

You have to use nylon tipped sticks on that pad though and I prefer wood tipped.

[@ohyeayeah6827]

SnareMan that true but some come with a protection center piece in the middle we’re the snare sound is and that gives it longer life.

[@Ray-ij8ot]

Can you buy a laminate for the off world if you bought it originally in the dark madder

[@SnareMan]

I don't know for sure but I am sure he would sell you one. Just contact them and ask

[@rochellethomas87]

I'm having issues with the snare sound coming through on the xymox on stand. Any recomendations?

[@SnareMan]

nothing I can think of.

[@mindyfossa7086]

Great review!

[@SnareMan]

Thanks!

[@howardmanley3388]

I’m new to drumming I noticed that ur right elbow was far away from ur body? However ur left arm was close to ur.body is there a reason ur right arm sticks out some what from ur side? I hope I can be as proficient as you with your technique....thanks Howie

[@SnareMan]

It's just the natural way of holding the sticks when playing traditional.

[@Ej_Rosas]

How about generic melhart pad :D

[@chocolatechip2293]

Could you review the vic virth heavy hitter slim pad? 👀

[@SnareMan]

I could if someone wants to send me one. Although I have one of the Xymox hybrid pads on order I don't really have a reason to buy more.

[@andrewwhite8624]

Get the BYOSphere snare pad by off world

[@SnareMan]

I'd like to try that one

[@82powpow]

Mannnnn I got so carried away with drum pads! I have a Vic firth slim pad, offworld scojo and the hybrid, the prologix blackout pad, rcp premium pad and my xymox pad arrived today lol. Carried! Away!!! Lol

[@SnareMan]

And here I thought I was bad...

[@chrislugo5838]

Brash drums is releasing a marching version of their pad on the first of may. It looks legit.

[@chrislugo5838]

Does anyone know the exact material the dark matter is made up of? I own a couple of these pads but wanted to possibly make my own mini version of one for travel

[@SnareMan]

pretty sure its proprietary

[@kylelee4812]

i got my pad 7 months after ordering it

[@dratam4ever]

It takes so long because there is only 4 people working in the warehouse. That’s what my tech told me but idk.

[@pexraphat]

I like xymox!

[@SnareMan]

Me too if you can get one

[@littlequesadilla1108]

First time?

[@mythicore3215]

its been 10 months... still haven't gotten my xymox pad and they stopped responding to my emails...

[@SnareMan]

Same here. Ordered mine last June. Haven't gotten a email response from them in a month despite several emails.

[@kirsten8456]

SnareMan maybe corona?

[@SnareMan]

@@kirsten8456 They tell me that is affecting them some lately, but can't be for the 8 months before that.

[@mythicore3215]

@@SnareMan Their employees are working from home and one of them have not been responding to emails for a long time so they just recently fired her and have a new support email, I forgot what it was but im sure you can find it somewhere.

[@SnareMan]

@@mythicore3215 Yes, I heard that too.

[@DennisJohnsonDrummer]

Offworld=you get the pad Xymox=you don't Any questions?

[@hectorsaucedo4465]

Did you get the metallic drum pad? Or do all pads now come with the medallion.

[@SnareMan]

I'm not sure what you mean. I did just get an email from them saying that the rim is still not in and now is supposed to be the end of the month. Pathetic

[@hectorsaucedo4465]

SnareMan the limited metallic pads

[@SnareMan]

@@hectorsaucedo4465 I'm not familiar with that one so I guess not. I think I just got one of the regular ones

[@SnareMan]

@@hectorsaucedo4465 Looked them up and no, I just got a regular one with a black base.

[@toosharp43]

What is your preferred pad though

[@SnareMan]

I like the xymox better, if you can actually get one

[@Christian-pr6ft]

Just a little note that’s not super important. I noticed in the video whenever you play you look down at your sticks a lot. Every camp I’ve been to they always tell us to look forward and even up at like a 10 degree angle. Just a little visual thing that makes you look confident when you play.

[@devingourdine2417]

Are you telling a Bluecoat snare line alumni how he should play?...

[@SnareMan]

@@devingourdine2417 LOL

[@SnareMan]

@@devingourdine2417 Former Bluecoats section leader for 2 years actually even. :-)

[@arQerlovesgigibear]

lol. pro tip. when you're chopping onions look up and lock eye's with the interviewer like marco pierre white. LOLOL.

[@steroidpigeon]

@@SnareMan that must've been a while ago then because your stick heights are off

[@1certain]

Are the Bluecoats still doing that alumni performance you were mentioning?

[@1certain]

And I don't know about anyone else but I'd like to see a video talking about your marching experience and how drum corps was back then.

[@SnareMan]

Yep. Last I saw there were about 300 people signed up including I think 15 snares

[@SnareMan]

@@1certain not sure how interesting of a video that would be although it was indeed drastically different just from a technology standpoint alone. Everyone standing in line for pay phones. No one had air mattresses. Everyone had a bunch of cassette tapes. Oh, and there was none of that electronics crap to lug around the field. :-)

[@1certain]

SnareMan A lot of alumni, especially my band director, show a lot of dislike to how drum corps is shifting to a much more visual dance-driven activity. What are your thoughts on that? (Sorry, this is turning into more of an interview. I'm doing an interview for my senior project for English and there not many alumni who are interested in interviews or talking about their careers. My band director marched in the mid-70s so I'd like someone from the 90s as my tech marching in the early 2000s and now writes shows for ensembles right now, he was also a coats alumni! From '06.

[@SnareMan]

Yea, the activity has certainly changed. Probably a lot to try and type here. Corps don't have identities any more. You used to know a corps by their uniform. No more. I liked things on their heads (shakos/helmets, etc) so you didn't see the performers as individuals, but as one corps. And then at the end of the show when they'd march in front of the stands and had taken them off you would see they are actually real people. Kind of odd I know. I think Phantom is the only corps left that generally still wears white and plays classical music. Life was also certainly simpler before electronics. And yes, the unis have to be different now because you can't dance and roll around on the ground in the old style unis.

[@dylanrichardson4421]

I ordered my xymox pad in late November, and after reading all of these comments, I am afraid that I won't get it till March or April. They told me that it will be here this week or next week, but I am afraid that I will receive the wrong rim or the wrong colors.😥

[@SnareMan]

From what they tell me, they got a shipment of rims in and are allegedly supposed to be sending me my correct one. So maybe you will get the correct one

[@dylanrichardson4421]

@@SnareMan Hopefully!

[@xanderpeery9536]

Did you get your pad

[@dylanrichardson4421]

I have not gotten my pad yet

[@SnareMan]

And I still don't have my correct rim even though they say it's been in stock with them in the beginning of February.

[@colinkwon1187]

8:22 well, seems like you pushed that pad easily...

[@SnareMan]

I think it was getting dusty on the bottom a bit

[@colinkwon1187]

SnareMan 👌👌

[@j-vtol8547]

Cool split screen demo.

[@SnareMan]

Thanks!

[@haio6818]

That was amazing how you did the split screen I thought you was battling your brother but it was you on a split screen

[@PRODBYGL3]

Hey, my pads didn't come in yet man.

[@SnareMan]

Good luck with them