Lost in Las Vegas | The Strange Disappearance of Steven Koecher

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Merry Christmas to you all as well.

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And a happy New Year

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Merry Christmas to all of the bedtime stories crew 🎄🎅🦌🎁 and thank y'all for our Christmas present today by puting out a video today

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Merry Christmas bts

[@RoseNZieg]

wish you a jolly yuletide!!!

[@stevenclark7070]

That's crazy, I live a couple miles from the area he went missing. I don't even recall hearing about his disappearance.

[@LTPottenger]

same

[@ZEBULON181]

Humm🤔

[@garymcewan5876]

Keep in mind that it's a STORY.

[@peterj5106]

I probably live around 5000 miles away & have seen a-few doc's about this case.

[@LTPottenger]

it's not@@garymcewan5876

[@nigelmorroll3343]

I have to admit that I find it really baffling that even now people can simply dissappear almost without any trace. Hopefully one day some clue is found.

[@braetonwilson4296]

when people disappear without a trace, they've most likely passed away, otherwise in the modern era of CCTV cameras, cellphone signals, digital trails, credit card trails etc. it's very difficult to just disappear

[@lovelybydecay7811]

well duh lmao. the question is, how and why did he fire, and where are his remains

[@Kainlarsen]

In large countries like the U.S, it's easier than people may believe.

[@rockstarofredondo]

A lot more is known about Steven’s disappearance than this video reveals.

[@asseyez-vous6492]

@@KainlarsenIt happens here in the UK too, a significantly smaller land mass than the US. Though I have noticed, that when cases come up of disappearances, if the person is ever found, it’s in a body of water somewhere.

[@LadyHeathersLair]

At my sisters house for Christmas. As a night shift worker, listening to you guys is helping to pass the night while the rest of the family are are all tucked in their beds.

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you are a MC in a horror movie :P

[@PlushyPlay1]

Thought you said fucked in their heads 😅

[@User747-i]

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[@jailee1470]

Omg 😂😂😂

[@cowboydan507]

“Little did he know that when he got in his car to drive up the mountain that morning, it’s the last time that anyone would see him……alive.”

[@toxtethtruth3914]

I'm more determined to get outdoors, I love listening out camping n hiking. But yeah, take precautions, it's jungle out there, stay safe peepo.

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[@ensignmjs7058]

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[@paulmcnutt-z2v]

re-examine the CCTV footage. Unless there are posted signs saying no parking in the street then why didn't Steven park in front of the house he wanted to go to. He was also carrying a sheath of papers. He doesn't live in that community and he's unemployed so he may have been delivering those papers to someone as an odd job. Lastly, as he's walking in view of the camera a small tree blocks our view but it would only take two or three steps to reappear on the other side of the tree and he doesn't reappear before the camera fades out. This suggests he turned and walked across the street. Has law enforcement ever interviewed those homeowners in that community.

[@braetonwilson4296]

It's very likely that Steven passed away in 2009

[@BrieyaSilverweb]

Las Vegas doesn't have CCTV cameras at every street. The city, while a huge grid work, only has cameras at key points on the larger/heavily used roads, most of which have had a history of car accidents. Any wealthy community would have their own system, which ends at the gate of the properties. Considering how many houses are out in the city that is 47 x 52 miles wide, with patches of barren land in between at certain points, dry washes, and how hilly Henderson is, there is a lot that could have happened. This is not including how Henderson is the 'vacation' place of a lot of LA gangs. For a Mormon to NOT go to a local elder in the area to find work is what perplexes me. They have a tight system for helping their own find work and have a place to stay. It is something a Mormon cousin of mine always bragged about at holiday settings, being an elder himself. It doesn't help that people are heavily transient in this city, staying 6 months to 2 years, on average. This is why we have such a high outgoing of residents verses those who move and decide to tough it out. Vegas was run by mafia, and have a great deal of strict rules, being very paranoid, seeing every case in the worst light until evidence proves innocence. Where else can you hear of someone getting 2 years in prison for picking up and eating 1 candy bar without paying for it? I don't find this to be supernatural, unless it is just how dark the human species can be in this desert. Vegas has a strange quality to it, and seems to bring out the darkness in some folks and makes it easy to become 'lost' in a variety of ways.

[@donotcomply665]

Considering his movements across different districts, and the papers he carried, I was thinking along the lines of him inspecting land/property to buy, maybe secretly as a surprise for his family? But he didn't have any money.

[@Nikp117]

@@braetonwilson4296kinda suspicious how your only contribution to this comment section is telling people he probably passed away in 2009. You’ve made several comments saying the same thing

[@braetonwilson4296]

@Nikp117, what are you implying exactly?

[@racookster]

Investigators might have been thrown off by thinking Steven's behavior was strange, and probably connected to his disappearance, but actually, it wasn't strange at all. He lost his job in the collapse of 2008, so he'd been unemployed for a year. When it's been that long, you don't want to tell anyone about your job hunt. You'll just disappoint them. He probably just ran into a random killer.

[@BeautifulSpirit-kf5ld]

What exactly do you mean by "random killer"?

[@braetonwilson4296]

Agreed, Steven most likely passed away in 2009

[@aleste3812]

​@@BeautifulSpirit-kf5ldone of the many active serial killers yet to be caught.

[@詹姆斯-k2k]

@@BeautifulSpirit-kf5ldsome kind of serial killer yet to be caught. If you’re a guy travelling alone it’s best to grow a beard as you appear more aggressive to other males, and are less likely to be preyed upon.

[@antgreenhough5821]

Concur.

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I just wanted to thanks to the Bedtime Stories team for the best storytelling and illustrations channel on KZbin. Hands down no contest. I've been subscribed for two years now and this is my go to channel for nightmare fueled true crime, paranormal and urban legend stories. I listen in bed before I go to sleep and my girlfriend makes me turn the real scary ones off or put in my earphones 😄. My favorites are the ghost and paranormal stories like the Christopher Case and all the There is Something in the.... But I really do like them all. So thank you for an early Christmas present and happy holidays. Please keep them coming and I'll keep watching!

[@MamaBearCarter]

Yeah, my son died me like this too, lol😂. "Uh mom. Can we please watch sobering else? "

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[@stewartfewster2221]

I would like to wish all the Bedtime Stories Team. A very merry Christmas and a happy new year. I watch many Channels on KZbin now but not many can hold a light to yours. This was a gòod and yet very sad story. Here's hoping all lost souls find there way home, one way or another.

[@poshlady43]

I remember this case so long ago, while living in Las Vegas. In that town.... just never know what's going on and people always end up disappearing on some level.

[@Mr_Fairdale]

I've known about this case since Steven disappeared. I was a new Vegas resident back then and live very close to where his car was parked. I've driven around that neighborhood a bunch of times, hiked around a lot in those hills too. If you all really want to know what happened, check out Arrin Stoner and his extensive videos on Steven's case.

[@MultiKm1]

Thank you for this.

[@Mr_Fairdale]

@@MultiKm1 anytime. Enjoy the rabbit hole

[@elijahherstal776]

I watched his videos- or tried, couldn't get past the first one. WAAAAAAAY too much wild, ignorant speculation and a lot of assumptions based on him simply not understanding the law, people, etc. "He mentioned wanting a wife and a good job- he had goals and clearly wasn't depressed, so that deboonks him doing something to himself!" Absolutely terrible.

[@rockstarofredondo]

Exactly. Arrin Stoner has the best coverage on this case.

[@patrickglaser1560]

Fall-out new vegas? Have you been ghoulified yet?

[@jackie0604oxon]

Thank you Bedtime Stories and season's greetings to you. I discovered your channel ages ago when you had uploaded about 30 videos, I binge-watched them and have followed ever since. Always high-quality and well narrated, looking forward to your presentations in 2024.

[@tylerharry6319]

Its pretty cool hearing a story about the area I grew up in. Listening to all the areas his cell was pinged and Im just like "oh thats by where my brother lives!" or "oh I like the WinCo by there" lol. With all the deserts and mine shafts out here, I doubt he will ever be found unfortunately.

[@marywhitt9807]

Excellent story along with incredible artwork!!! Merry Christmas to you and yours!!! Thanks for all you do!

[@Bedtime-Horror]

Yes he has incredible artwork. I have not seen anyone else have this type of art in videos. Do you have a favorite theme on horror stories?

[@marywhitt9807]

@@Bedtime-Horror Creepy Creatures!!!

[@Bedtime-Horror]

@@marywhitt9807 I have not heard any stories in that theme. But it sounded interesting. But maybe do I have some themes that you like

[@marywhitt9807]

I have enjoyed all of your posts!

[@Bedtime-Horror]

@@marywhitt9807 im glad to hear that ❤️

[@rockstarofredondo]

He was drug-running for his “landlord” in St. George, which explains all of the seemingly pointless road trips in previous days. One of the drops or pickups located in that Henderson neighborhood was a guy with a record. After going to the address in Henderson, which is known btw, he was never seen again. Arrin Stoner covered all of this on his channel and it makes a lot more sense once you check out his vids.

[@slfdefjukie]

Funny that was my theory. I lived in St George and guess where I went to buy mass amounts of weed lol.....😊

[@chaoswitch1974]

Is drug running theory or fact?

[@mxbx307]

He was also long term unemployed. A 'job' and 'work' could just be a euphemism or cover story, and you wonder why he prioritised paying for fuel above all else? Because he needed to drive in order to do his 'job'. How did he pay for so much gas when he was unemployed? Perhaps his 'boss' paid or he was cut in on some of the proceeds. Being a Mormon he likely felt he had certain standards to live up to, such that being homeless and/or in debt was not the desired situation.

[@cenaculum1]

interesting... I have heard some drug runners deliberately dress well and pose as businessmen

[@andrewcruz1931]

This was debunked

[@waldokoen3362]

I have been waiting so long for the next story. It was worth the wait… it’s the best Christmas gift. Merry Christmas Everyone

[@carywhatzizname4060]

Thanks for another well-done video! Merry Christmas, Simon, Richard, and Mikey!

[@flywheelshyster]

Unfamiliar with the mormon mafia mentioned below, i googled mormon mafia wiki and instead found a wiki about he horrific violence associated with mormonism throughout its inception. Wowsa.

[@patrickglaser1560]

White sands is upwind of Utah

[@glendanison3064]

Never heard of this case before. Interesting and very puzzling. Merry Christmas to the BTS crew!

[@kellyford8832]

watching this on December 24th 2023 so MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone!! 😁😇

[@buckhunt6832]

Yessss a new bedtime stories episode! It truly is a Christmas miracle 🎉❤

[@andrewkaye2108]

Ahh, a case in my birthtown. Vegas can be a weird and dangerous place. My heart goes out to the family and him..😢

[@truthseeker2321]

Joshua Powell not only killed himself, he killed his two sons as well. He in fact murdered his wife and his brother helped in disposing of her body. His brother committed suicide a year after his own.

[@truthseeker2321]

​@@osakarose5612This was pretty much big news in the USA and probably Canada back then, but maybe it didn't even make the news in the UK. Powell took his kids " camping " in the middle of the night during a blizzard, and claimed that his wife was missing when they returned the next day. The kids however said that their mother was in the trunk of the car when they left in the night. It was a really weird story, and Powell's father was also arrested for having child porn. His whole family was creepy. He had supervised visitation with his children after his wife was missing, and a woman from child protective services brought them to his house for a supervised visit, when he slammed the door shut in her face after he let the children in. He killed them with a hatchet or hammer and set the house on fire while the woman was calling the cops. It was about a year later that police wanted to question his brother about his involvement in the disappearance of his sister in law that he decided to commit suicide.

[@beeley]

Yes thank you! I was a little bothered that the narrator did not mention this.

[@pheart2381]

I am glad you mentioned Nicola Bulley. If she had met with foul play these would-be detectives would have destroyed any evidence.

[@VMM34]

Only because the police didn't cordon off the area. With the recent Gaynor Lord case the whole park by the river was made out of bounds to the public. As it should be.

[@matthewrideout426]

Can't wait for the skin walker ranch reboot! Literal goosebumps watching that reveal!

[@BedtimeStoriesChannel]

It's only on the podcast though, to be fair. We would love to do it one day for the channel and maybe do a part 4 too, but maybe in the future.

[@matthewrideout426]

@@BedtimeStoriesChannel when will it be on the podcast? Is there a date?

[@BedtimeStoriesChannel]

@@matthewrideout426 First episode drops on 26th, second on 27th and third on 28th 😊

[@matthewrideout426]

@@BedtimeStoriesChannel awesome. Can't wait. Will the podcast be on the channel or Is it elsewhere?

[@BedtimeStoriesChannel]

@@matthewrideout426 Spotify, Amazon, Apple and pretty much any other podcasting platform

[@-Thauma-]

When I was a little girl, my brother told me that people got kidnpped and kept as slaves on far away farms.

[@johnoneill7947]

You are in Africa?

[@danielalvarez-galan3702]

There are/were several now known pedophile rings around the world maybe one might be a farm, or far off, have you ever looked into how many kids went missing in the 1980’s. I’m sure many poor souls meet their end at one of those places.

[@LadyQuotes]

I've gone through the entire catalogue of stories while I was working but have to come back and leave more comments and like. Love your work!

[@Magick_People]

I almost relistened to the Skinwalker Ranch videos today. Looking forward to the podcast versions.

[@annien.1727]

What an awesome early Christmas present!😍 Thank you, Bedtime Stories! Merry Christmas!🎄⛄🎁 And a Happy New Year!

[@skrillozedd]

Great videos, I found you off of MrBallen's video when he mentioned you! I'm excited to have all your stories to listen to, and I love your reading voice!

[@rokball4892]

Merry Christmas to all of us!!!

[@oldskoolordie]

The weirdest things about Bulley case was how incompetent the police were and how at was so prominent in the news. Then after weeks, oh yes she was in the river all along.

[@Fairyfink]

Police did make some serious mistakes, but hink they said she was in the river after establishing there were no sightings of her, actually. Speculation about abduction etc was largely from other sources.

[@michaela6147]

There is no one more incompetent than government

[@vannlo355]

Really, it's weird that the police are incompetent? Seems pretty normal to me

[@R-bobo]

Funny that the autopsy report on the body hasn't been released to the public yet, it would be interesting to know how long her body was actually in the river. I think she was placed in the river where she was found.

[@jamesknapp64]

Wait they actually found her in the river

[@rockinblue978]

Excellent story. Merry Christmas! 🎉

[@ianbrett3276]

Awesome video to end the year and I can't wait to see what you do next year, Merry Christmas to you guys at Bedtime Stories and to all your other fans around the world 👽🎅👽

[@MBSill]

Man, I get lost in the illustrations. I constantly have to go back & listen again! 😂 I'd sure like to know what's up with those 1,100 random miles in 48 hrs? Weird. Outstanding video as usual. Thank u so much!

[@JasonMcCord-qk3yb]

Excellent story, especially being nonfiction! Your artwork is amazing, and the narration is spot -on! Merry Christmas!

[@kelly171a]

Great video, I love the creepy missing person stories, and as always, love the artwork. Thank you!!

[@luckyasmr1374]

Merry Christmas y’all, stay safe and have fun!🎄🎅

[@kellyford8832]

great video as ALWAYS, and wow man, whoever the artist is here is REMARKABLE and AMAYZING these pictures look like black and white PHOTO'S.... that's really awesome man.. 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

[@DiniD]

Merry Christmas 🎄thanks for the upload. ❤

[@sgauden02]

Merry Christmas, everybody! It's been such a great year for Bedtime Stories, and hopefully 2024 will be just as good, if not better!

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Merry christmas yall! And thanks bedtime stories, needed that to fill up my social battery after christmas

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LOVE Your Posts!!! Eagetly Await new ones. MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL OF YOU & YOURS!!!!!!

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I know that many, maybe most enjoy listening to the Bedtime Stories Podcasts. I still like the stories with the pictures, and love the stories told. 🎄

[@petercortez6742]

i encourage and support you folks for continuing with you journey with great stories

[@STRAKAZulu]

An interesting case. Thanks for sharing this one!

[@mattmacknight3000]

Love that you’re working with Ballen Studios!

[@VMM34]

Ballen is much too woke for me

[@mattmacknight3000]

@@VMM34 lmao how’s he woke? Stop labelling everything. Ballen is the man, tells great studios and helps people. The man was a navy seal and has created an immensely popular and successful brand. If you can actually list and explain the reasons he’s “woke” then maybe you have a point. Otherwise you’re just a troll.

[@mecahhannah]

Awesome as always thanks! Merry Christmas and happy holidays to you and all those who celebrate!

[@hedgewitch59]

Merry Christmas guys. Thank you for your great stories. I love them. 🤶🎄❄️🎁

[@Ratdaddy752]

It’s refreshing hearing somebody articulate! New favorite channel

[@ensignmjs7058]

Did you recently discover it?

[@Legionmint7091]

The reason why people may give different answers depending on who they talk to doesn’t necessarily indicate something suspicious. He may not have wanted to let his ex-girlfriend’s parents know that he was unemployed, and he may have talked about a job in the same neighborhood as his ex-girlfriend’s parents lived, just as he told his mother. His erratic driving pattern could mean he was looking for someone. Or following someone. The police should check if any other number appear more than once in the same area where his phone pinged. It could also indicate he was a mule, moving illicit items from one drop point to another.

[@be_heard247]

See i was thinking along those lines. Like if u are out of work for a long time and possibly desperate, then u may be willing to do some things u wouldn't have before and I'm sure Vegas has plenty of opportunity for unsavory stuff. I hope he wasn't doing that stuff and I'm not trying to assume anything, just thinking lol

[@Legionmint7091]

@@be_heard247 I agree. It’s quite possible you’re right.

[@petercortez6742]

Excellent Artwork to go with Great Stories

[@bioLarzen]

Good to see this channel still running strong, and the quality is still the same. Even better to find this kind of content - it's understood that "real mysteries" start running out after a while and so only the paranormal, UFO and obviously-not-existing creatures remain of which I am not a huge fan. But one can only work with what they have...

[@Bull3tBikes]

Hmm what a pleasant surprise indeed to get a video on the eve of Christmas happy holiday to you!

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Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to one and all at Bedtime Stories keep em coming lads

[@davidpatrick4765]

Merry Christmas and Happy New Year to you and yours!!

[@karaamundson3964]

I knew the reimagined vid would be "Skinwalker Ranch, I II II." I LOVE those episodes and I've watched them many times!! yay

[@cgsai2008]

Great video. Merry Christmas 🎄.

[@Artymorty_124]

Awesome as always. Would love to see you guys do an episode on the disappearance of Frederick Valentich-that's a baffling disappearance case

[@The72challenger]

The first commonalities in this case are those towns: mesquite, wendover and of course vegas...all getaway gambling spots and all in nevada. A HUGE number of utah residents visit mesquite and wendover, daily. So sounds like he was gambling and winning enough to keep him coming back to wendover, a few hours away from slc and mesquite, a few more hours and then vegas to try for those big wins?Check the cctv footage in all the casinos in wendover and mesquite...thatd be a good start.

[@travisn346]

Wonder why he visited the home of the ex's parents and went on random high mileage drives?

[@-RONNIE]

Thanks for the video. I hope you, your family and friends all have a good holiday 🥃 Sláinte

[@kylebryan4504]

I can relate with Steve's behavior. I acted in a similar fashion this year, leaving home and traveling long distances without saying a word, and keeping it to myself. During that time I was dealing with severe depression, and being a typical guy not wanting to give away any evidence anything was wrong mentally or emotionally, would put up the facade that everything was fine. Acting fine, living fine, but deep down be unraveling inside. Think of it as a silent form of major depression. And it's bad.

[@dominicwaghorn6459]

Gonna watch this in bed on my ownsome later thank you. It just wouldn’t be Christmas without you guys, for me.

[@EphemeralProductions]

Happy Christmas you lot! Thanks heaps for the video! ❤. Cheers!

[@everettolenick]

Merry Christmas! Thanks for another great year of content! 2024 is the year for 1M subs!!!!!

[@FlorianMark]

The first case you mentioned is realy mysterious. You should make a full video on her.

[@leekessler3619]

Merry Christmas to the whole crew at Bedtime Stories we appreciate you all more than you know!!💜💜🙏✌️

[@Slyarno2795]

Merry Christmas from Canada and Happy New Years.

[@kellzbellz801]

Yay. I picked up my phone thinking maybe just maybe the new bedtime story has dropped. And.. perfect. Right on Christmas eve. It's like a present.

[@YankeePendragon]

Why is it the most prosaic, even banal cases always feel the most terrifying?

[@MrsGypsumFantastic]

Because it could happen to any of us and that’s very unnerving.

[@andrewparsons2391]

it's impossible or at least extremely unlikely that you'll be grabbed by Bigfoot, Aliens, Ghosts or Skinwalkers, but there are *plenty* of perfectly normal evil people going around doing evil things

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Mundanger in a nutshell. Also, the fact that it's unsolved.

[@bio-plasmictoad5311]

Lack of answers, fear of the unknown.

[@jamier2477]

This was the first case that got me hooked onto true crime documentaries. Watched it years ago on "Disappeared". I always find myself looking for updates at least once a year. This and Neo Maximus case

[@suscon1140]

Merry Christmas from PA, USA!!! Prayers for Stephen and his family - a baffling case for sure.

[@nemo7782]

Merry Christmas! Hope everyone has a safe and happy day- without disappearing or being abducted by ETs.

[@RadagastBrown420]

Between 1994 and 2002 I went to Vegas nearly 20 times. Its like paradise on earth. I hope to make my triumphant return in mid April of 2024 to see Phish perform.

[@dylandettorre]

What I’m about to tell you Is the truth. I look forward to Christmas not just for a ripper lunch/dinner and time with family but for the guaranteed BTS Christmas release. I can remember exactly where I was and what I was doing when I watched them. Keep it up guys you’re legends. 4 years on and within my top 5 subs. Much love from the Sunny Coast, QLD, Australia

[@hatuletoh]

I live in Salt Lake City, Utah, and especially back around 2009, knew some colorful characters in Las Vegas and Wendover. The sort of people who might at least have heard rumors about what happened to a dude who disappeared in Vegas. When this case got public attention in SLC a few months after Koecher went missing I made some casual inquiries to friends in Wendover, Vegas, and a few towns in Southern Utah. I heard the same thing from every one of them: nothing. Not a damn thing. As far as anyone I knew could tell, the dude wasn't into anything shady or illegal, or at least hadn't visited Wendover or Las Vegas for the purposes of conducting illegal business. He hadn't pissed anyone off, hadn't made any questionable friends, and none of the shady people I knew had ever heard of him. They hadn't even heard about someone else in their social circles who might have known him, and being a clean cut Mormon guy, he would have stood out in those social circles. It would seem that either he had some manner of accident and ended up somewhere inaccessible--the desert is very big, and mostly empty; Vegas, big as it has gotten, is still a comparatively tiny speck in the desert--or else he had a random encounter with someone who did something bad to him. Random encounters with bad people can be almost impossible to trace, because the lack of connection to the bad actor leaves the police with no way to connect victim and criminal. The funny thing about that though: if he was the victim of a random crime, why would someone do what was clearly a very thorough job of getting rid of the body? Why go to the trouble if no one can connect you, the criminal, to the victim? I suppose one could argue that the best way to get away with a crime to erase all evidence that one ever occurred, but again, Koecher wasn't some desperado with a bunch of bad dudes after him. He was just an average Utah Mormon. On the other hand, what the hell was he doing driving all over the desert before he disappeared, especially if he was low on cash? Long solo drives to cities like Vegas amd Wendover, and visiting old gfs is the kind of thing people before they go away forever--one way or another--but once again, Koecher seemed to be a religious guy who was close to his family. Not the usual type to off themselves, although I suppose anyone might be that type if the brain chemicals become unbalanced. This case has always bugged me, because it happened in my own backyard and over a decade on, no one knows anything. Either someone is the grand champion not only at disappearing a body but also keeping his (her? their?) mouth(s?) shut, which would be equally impressive and spooky; or whatever happened was entirely accidental, and genuinely unwitnessed.

[@alsmith9853]

You neglected a third and possibly the most obvious option: he chose to unalive himself and wanted to find somewhere anonymous

[@samsunggalaxyj3prime889]

The random killer had to dispose of him, if Steven was on his property when killed

[@brianeastwood7774]

Really interesting as always

[@nafex3740]

I truly love your channel ❤️ 💕

[@marhawkman303]

mmm... this is one of those cases where hearing a brief overview just gives me the urge to scrutinize the case in microscopic detail. That'd probably take several hours.

[@windowshasyou5561]

Weeks, actually. There is a lot of details and evidence in this case that is left out of so many videos on this disappearance. Police searched the triangulated position of his phone for it several times and never found it nor any trace of him. If he was walking through the last town, he should have been caught on any number of security cams in the area. Not one ever saw him. Lots of people have been questioned about his disappearance, but no leads even strong enough for a massive dig for remains has turned up. Police and search crews went through numerous old mines in the area thinking he may be in one; they searched who knows how many miles of desert in all directions of his supposed walk. Let me save you a lot of trouble though; in the end, when the police went back to square one, one house on that street kept coming up and its a house that Steven was last seen going to before he disappeared. Police took the occupants in multiple times for interviews and even searched it with cadaver dogs. The dogs would hit on an area of the back yard. The police would dig, but not find anything. Dogs kept going back to that same general area and then later would go to an area in the desert behind the house. There, they found some items such as shredded clothing suspected to be stevens, but could not conclusively link it to him. Also, multiple digs in that desert area failed to find any remains, but that didn't stop dogs from hitting on that area as well as the back yard. In the end, with nothing but weak circumstantial evidence and no body, police had no choice but to give up bothering that house for now. I just saved you weeks of analyzing every bit of evidence available, rummaging through the he said/she said, and kinda wish I could get those weeks back. What I think happened is that Steven is alive out there somewhere; that he was quite possibly drug running for some extra cash here and there (I've known staunch mormons who one would never suspect was into that stuff, yet did it anyway), got the hell beat out of him which would explain the scents and the torn clothing, then wandered away either not remembering who he was, or ran off to start a new life under a new name for fear that whomever he got into trouble with would realize they didn't finish him off and would come for him again. I doubt very much that he had anything to do with Susan Powell as someone, somewhere would have seen the couple together or some evidence in cell tower data would have come to light.

[@marhawkman303]

@@windowshasyou5561 Hmm... sounds about right yeah. One thing I guessed is that there WERE leads, just no body found, and thus no hard evidence. That's a thing you find in several cases. The cops have leads, but can't find what they're looking for.

[@Someaddress555s]

​@@windowshasyou5561 after some basic digging I agree it seems like he was earning some easy cash and got in with some of the wrong people, which could have led to his restarting somewhere or buried in the middle of the desert. If some of the LDS branches will argue its their right to marry little girls then what other things are they doing to earn money/power?

[@Johnny-w15]

Happy Christmas bedtime stories , I still think the is more to meets the eye with that Nicola bulley situation

[@AlexNHitDogs]

Happy holidays Bedtime Stories 😊

[@stevenconroy5864]

Thx 4 the awesome story guys have a merry Christmas

[@INSEIKYU01]

Feliz Navidad amigos thanks for the Christmas gift.

[@patriciahayes2664]

Well, unless Steven Koecher was abducted by aliens, I'd say he ran afoul of another person or simply decided to disappear for unknown reasons.

[@armedpenguin3655]

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[@patriciahayes2664]

@@armedpenguin3655 It's listed there among the first batch of emojis. Look closely and you'll find it.

[@gamelife2982]

Love your profile pic. Mara Jade rules!

[@patriciahayes2664]

@@gamelife2982 Thank you!

[@이동연-c6d]

Merry Christmas to all!!! 😄😁😆

[@rosaluxemburg1670]

He was a Mormon who was serving Forclosure notices and served a notice to someone who was desperate and likely ended up killed this way.

[@staley101]

When I started listening I thought it was the case where the guy got a job giving closer notice to people who had foreclosed on their homes. I'm sure he was killed by a guy who didn't want to lose his house. Sure that was around the same time.

[@ksolesky2]

That would have been pretty easy to discover. Killing the guy putting a sign on your door doesn't stop the bank from foreclosing on them. That are foreclosure notices are done via certified mail, i.e. if the person doing the delivery never shows back up at work it's not certified and people start asking questions.

[@jamesknapp64]

​@@ksolesky2agreed that would also have the bank records of what house he (Steven) would visit. There are none of those.

[@staley101]

@@ksolesky2 it was something I heard awhile ago now but his family didn't know he had started doing that work and when he vanished they didn't know where he had gone. I maybe misremembering the details. the cases seemed similar at first.

[@jrizock22]

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[@somasatori9117]

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the Greys took hold...

[@AnnHollowell-fk1yh]

Nicola's dissaperance, then subsequent apperance ,deceased on the riverbank, was a typical 411 mystery. The river and area she was found in had been searched over and over again.

[@juneyshu6197]

Heckofa mystery, but very sad and mysterious circustances.

[@1FokkerAce]

They had no idea where Steven was. They only knew where Steven’s phone was. As to no CC camera footage picking him up, did they pick up any images of Joshua??? Because by then Steven’s phone was probably in Joshua’s pocket.

[@robertnapier624]

Happy Christmas Bedtime Stories.

[@hollybyrd6186]

Thank you for the Christmas gift

[@briantomcollins]

The family just left, the house is quiet, i gotta coffee and a plate of Christmas cookies, let's go. Perfect end to a long day. Merry Christmas ya'll...

[@siobhan5486]

The few times i went to las vegas i always had the fear i would disappear there, the place just gives me the creeps

[@Globez123]

Well narrated and with creepy music

[@alinapopescu872]

I don't understand why this should be seen as mysterious. There are so many people who go away for reasons known only to themselves: to start a life their family wouldn't be too proud of, for instance.

[@jamesedwardladislazerrudo1378]

"In this next season of Unsolved Mysteries"

[@JeffreyGlover65]

People don't just disappear.

[@meganwatson2491]

Are you thick?

[@annepayton139]

Thanks for the present lads