Behind the Neck Press: The "FORGOTTEN" Barbell Shoulder Exercise

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This exercise has been shunned, ridiculed and considered an "injury-causing" movement for over a decade.....BUT there is hope. Check out this video for some helpful tips on The "FORGOTTEN" Barbell Shoulder Exercise
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The overhead press is a challenging exercise that should be a foundational lift in any upper-body routine. However, most beginners-and a surprising number of seasoned lifters-don't know how to approach this multijoint lift safely and effectively. Chris examines the lift and lay out a solid approach that will lead you to pressing success!
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[@korgtritonextreme100]

I built all of my shoulder mass with this one exercise alone. I've done behind the neck presses for over 40 years and never had an issue. It hits all three heads. Start light and pyramid up. Do full reps, partial reps and rest pause. All work very well with this exercise.

[@Criticalbench]

Great job! Keep it up man 💪

[@tarikartiste349]

Full range of motion?? Till The bar touch your traps??

[@ROTVAJLER83]

So true! "Behind the neck presses are one of the best shoulder-building exercises there is, and it used to be a staple among bodybuilders from the 50s up to the early 80s. It's the most effective pressing exercise for overall shoulder development. This is found both in the trenches and in the lab. Among the three main pressing options - barbell press from the front, behind the neck barbell press, and dumbbell press - the behind the neck press has a significantly greater activation of all three heads of the delt. And there's no doubt that the behind the neck press is superior to the barbell military press (seated or standing). It's not even close. When comparing the standing versions of behind the neck presses with dumbbell presses, the dumbbell press hits more of the anterior delt, but the anterior delt is usually over-stimulated with all the bench pressing we do. And when comparing the seated versions of the behind the neck press and the dumbbell press, once again, the behind the neck press is the clear winner. Someone with a normal posture and no shoulder mobility issues should have no problem doing the behind the neck press safely. There are only two kinds of people who will have problems: 1.Those with a pronounced kyphosis (a rounded upper back and hunched shoulders). 2.Those with pre-existing shoulder mobility issues. If you're unable to do the behind the neck press comfortably, that's a sign you should work on shoulder mobility. In fact, the behind the neck press is a good diagnostic tool to see how functional your shoulders are. It's not the exercise that's the problem. It's the fact that it can highlight pre-existing shoulder issues. If you add it to your training, make sure that you don't lack mobility or have a shoulder injury. Start light until you find your groove. Olympic lifting powerhouse, Dmitry Klokov, for one. He does it in various forms: wide grip, narrow grip, strict, and with a push. Many even call the wide-grip behind the neck press a Klokov press. Klokov once suffered a serious shoulder injury attempting a 265-270 kg jerk from the racks in training. Afterward he started to emphasize various overhead pressing movements. Now, if a lifter who suffered a severe shoulder injury can do behind the neck presses with over 315 pounds, that's a sign that if you have proper mobility it's a not an inherently dangerous exercise. Paul Carter is a monster presser, having done 365 pounds in the strict behind the neck press. Paul has a permanently separated shoulder. Despite that, he can still handle monster weights in the behind the neck press. Ted Arcidi, one of the first to officially bench press 700 pounds, used the behind the neck press as his main upper body builder. He too was able to handle hefty loads without compromising his shoulders. Maybe it's time for you to re-think the behind the neck press too." by Christian Thibaudeau

[@Criticalbench]

Thanks for sharing

[@saulwest8254]

Started doing these again a few weeks ago, hits the tri's, delts and upper back/traps really well. No pain in shoulders at all.

[@Criticalbench]

Saul West That’s awesome. Yeah I think people started bashing this exercise along time ago without addressing all the facts and really looking at the mechanics of the shoulder. And frankly I think a lot of people just lifted too heavy in this position which overtime led to poor shoulder health and injury.

[@borishahaha]

I used this exercise to resolve my shoulder injury. If you treat this exercise as a rehab exercise at the start and very slowly build weight it does amazing things to realign your shoulders and upper back muscles.

[@Criticalbench]

Nice!!!! CC

[@jackcarter6629]

Yes, people have to start low and work the weight up until they have the mobility and learn where to stop. Going into this too heavy without proper mobility will fuck the shoulders.

[@rajinfootonchuriquen]

I did the same but with the front barbell press, then went behind. The best rehab is strengh training

[@Mrayis100]

Slow and steady wins the race!!

[@pamangkin6837]

I'm doing this more than the front press and I was amazed by the results. And made the front press easier for me.

[@Criticalbench]

Sounds like it's working really well for you. Keep it up! 👍

[@AbdulBasittrading]

I'm pressing more bnt but it has made front harder for me. LMAO😂

[@captaintrips2470]

I've done these for over ten years and prefer them to any other type of shoulder press. You're right about feeling them hit the medial delt. Incidentally, I once dislocated my left shoulder by going too heavy on dumbbell shoulder presses.

[@samuelstrickland3678]

I did this as well as behind the neck lat pulldowns as part of my back and shoulder routines for a long time.During that period of time my shoulders and back seemed invincable.During a very long break from lifting I devoloped forward posture due to wrk and modern living.Upon returning to lifting I found that before returning to these exercises I had to regain my proper posture to prevent pain and injury while lifting.If you have forward posture in upper back and shoulders address those issues before atempting these.Your kneck and shoulders will thank you.

[@Criticalbench]

Thanks for your feedback

[@arvinmaryami3824]

put speed on 1:25, this guy is one of those slow talkers altough his advice is solid.

[@andrewmoonbeam321]

I aged twenty years through that.

[@9kaustav]

great advice

[@MrDominic600]

Thanks

[@amazingme1408]

your slow he speaks beautifuly

[@ghatakprahar4692]

too fast often leads to injury

[@JamesSmith-xf8pq]

Very knowledgable guy. Yes, this is one of Arnold's Golden Six.

[@AlexChan66]

This exercise developed my vertical upward strength tremendously. I do yoga and for my full backbend bridge, it was do-able but after some time with this exercise, I could just fly up and even lift one leg off the ground.

[@Criticalbench]

Wonderful! Thanks for sharing!

[@dgnantes4177]

I do both,front and behind neck at the same time and it works better than DB presses.

[@Criticalbench]

Good....always good to do a little of everything. CC

[@goatlps]

Agreed! Why not do both at the same time? No brainer, unless you have no flexibility. I wouldn't do them seated though as it grinds my lumber spine, which is fragile. I was doing #PressAboveHead with my #TrapBar (easier) but my shoulders were getting tight and then I tore them by windmilling my arms to try to relieve them. I switched to alternate PAH and they felt great first time. I also recommend doing #HiseShrugs at the same time as calf raises.

[@johnnyh537]

Some people like to do this, some people dont. It all depends on what works for you. I used to do this but stopped because of pains in the shoulders. I did get some gains from doing it tho so its all good. Keep the videos coming chris always keen to try new things

[@ThorbjornMacBain]

When I was 22 I did tons of these (also did a lot of Arnold press and db raises). No shoulder issues. Now with boxing and CF I have huge anterior deltoid / impingement issues. Gonna add this back as a supplement.

[@Criticalbench]

Id be careful of anything thing that puts you in deep external and internal rotation as an exercise. Stay well

[@andrewscott5226]

This is an exercise I've used for years and is one of my favorites. I alternate sets back to front for a total of 8 sets (4 sets each) and feel as though it helps my shoulders overall stability and strength. However, I go all the way down to the point where the bar would sit on my back for a back squat. I like the stretch it gives my medial delts. You cautioned against this, but is it a true issue or is it ok to do as long as it is done under control? Thanks

[@topproff2558]

The best felt development I ever had came from the bhn press. Being older and wiser now I will now agree it has to be under lighter load and controlled. I’d say 8-10 rep range, which in my opinion is perfect for muscles as small and as easily taxed as the deltoids

[@Criticalbench]

Thanks for your feedback

[@wesseboyman]

I do behind presses with lighter weights and reps high as between 12-19 reps,then for front presses quite alot heavier and as low as 4-6 reps.works very well,if ya have pain or Hard time doing them just skip:)

[@vengelohardmon3212]

I always incorporate it in my workout and I've never had a problem with my shoulders for over 20 years if you perform the exercise safely and correctly you'll be just fine Kevin levrone develope some of the best shoulders in bodybuilding from this particular movement as well as the legendary Lee Haney and thick Vic, Victor Richards

[@Rocket9944]

One of my favorite exercise is "standing behind neck press' i feel it keeps the upper body strong, been doing it for years, actually the exercise i must be careful on not going to heavy is bench press. I met Lee Haney years ago when he was in top shape, he had no shirt on and his body look fake he was so well built!

[@ericjshorts3203]

I do this all the time. Good for traps and delts

[@Criticalbench]

Absolutely! Keep it up, Eric! 💪

[@timrudd703]

Thank you so much chris your awesome. Tim

[@Rocket9944]

Never realized people don't do behind neck press anymore, standing neck press is one of my favorites, i do front and behind neck press, i feel it keeps the upper body strong.

[@aperez4198]

Informative. Good video.

[@strengthandbulkMadness]

Start out light until you gain enough flexibility in the shoulders. If you stop doing them for a while, the shoulders stiffen up again.

[@karthik_silkroads]

What are the other movements to strengthen teh rotator cuff in this awkward range of motion? I really wanna get better at this

[@thespy7795]

My Traps grew with this exercise.

[@coffecup5859]

me also.. my traps improved

[@jameskourlas5753]

I’ve been doing this for a month and everything’s good

[@Criticalbench]

Amazing! Glad to hear it's working well for you. Keep at it! :-)

[@rayd3657]

I like to start with standing barbell presses to the front,and then transition to behind the neck presses also standing Do you think it's better to do either of these standing or seated? I can use more weight seated,but the standing version feels like it's helping my posture strengthen up allot more Also,so you think seated behind the necks in a Smith machine are good?I try'd some today and they feel a whole lot harder and stricter

[@allansnackbar2164]

I love back pressing! Great video man!

[@Criticalbench]

+Organix Hydros Thanks man....I made it just to try and silence everyone hating on this old school movement that gets bashed all the time today. With lighter loads and good form, this movement still has its place. CC

[@bl4nk493]

how about the hand placement ? pls anyone help me im a beginner

[@jermaineharris8870]

I'll work on it soon as possible

[@korgtritonextreme100]

Smith machine is a good way to do these. Medium weights with control should get the job done.

[@Criticalbench]

Thanks for your feedback

[@pamangkin6837]

Me too

[@trinihammer]

yeah you are spot on i do these on the smith macine

[@DallasTechie]

I've seen good gains from using behind the head ohp.

[@justinriley8651]

I believe that this exercise is not the smartest thing to do however there harder to do and I notice when I do them I get stronger in my strict press. I think they help with strength.

[@xdeepak12]

Love the exercise..

[@Criticalbench]

Thanks

[@TheApexFIFA]

the only way it becomes an injury causing movement is when people try to force the movement. This exercise is very mobility orientated. if you are well warmed up and are able to easily open up your body for this movement, then great.But if you are trying to force this and are feeling strain on your rotators, but thinking thats just muscle fatigue, then you my friend shall be injured. Also a very helpful tip with this exercise is to not lower the bar lower then the bottom of your ear, it will take a lot more stress off of your rotators, rather then going for that little bit more ROM.

[@Criticalbench]

Thanks...well said. Most things are worth doing or worthwhile exercises if done with quality form and moderate weight. Saying this exercise is no good is saying that for decades legendary bodybuilders and powerlifters were lifting stupid and not getting results. If you asked guys back in the day, this exercise was a top ten or top fifteen kind of exercise. CC

[@DeathskullLord]

uhhh yeah don't you need force to move the bar?

[@truegamer2819]

even Carl Weathers did this type of exercise for the roll of Apollo Creed, with out any injuries and look at the man, he was ripped til the tee its all about technique

[@Criticalbench]

Agreed

[@eumesm9770]

Thank you Kyle Reese!

[@Paycheck777]

Does it work the rear delts? Having a hard time hitting those when all I got are dumbbells and a barbell to work with (and body if you count it).

[@Criticalbench]

Josef Stalin I’d suggest using 10 to 20 pound dumbbells and doing a bent over reverse fly to try and target the rear delts. Or when you do a heavy dumbbell or barbell bent over row, keep the elbows flared out from the body to better hit the upper back and posterior delts.

[@Atypical82]

Who’s talking about people not doing these anymore? This is one of my favorite exercises. It’s one of the smoothest movements you can perform when done properly.

[@Criticalbench]

Love hearing this!

[@nomadbound9610]

I've been doing behind the neck with lighter weight since I hurt my nose with the barbell doing regular OH press. There was blood everywhere :D

[@Criticalbench]

YIKES!

[@quincymarquis-brown5803]

😂😂😂😂

[@quincymarquis-brown5803]

I just imagined this happening it was kinda funny💀💀

[@dallascowboysnumber1fan]

Damn bro sorry to here that,u gotta becareful dude.

[@JoKacX]

What works for one doesn’t always work for the other, I’ve been lucky but a good point to make is I struggled to get a 60kg overhead press for years even when I was pressing 120 on bench. Started doing behind the back presses varying the reps, doing a LOT of shoulder mobility, rear delt work and I can now front press 85kg after less than a year. 27.5kg increase from one exercise, can work wonders if it works for you

[@Criticalbench]

Thanks for commenting

[@JasminMusic1602]

it is ok to go so down under neck?

[@takethelift]

I've only recently adopted this in my training having previously been dissuaded after reading articles that said it was unsafe. Funny enough, most of the stronger guys incorporate this variation of the press into their shoulder work. I wonder why as these are people that have trained consistently for years.

[@Criticalbench]

+ayiznahc It's only unsafe if you have bad shoulders, weak shoulders, use too much weight or have poor form. Yes, it has benefits and a ton of top notch guys use(d) this movement to develop strength and mass. CC

[@supremepandemic608]

+Criticalbench it's actually dangerous. old school bodybuilders stuck to what worked and today sports science have proved how it does effect the shoulders. Watch Athlean-x and why you shouldn't be doing it, he is a physician and has a skeleton that shows you how it does effect the shoulders.

[@zjschulling]

Supreme Pandemic Athlean-x is a fucking tool that posts nothing but click bait

[@Boxerman801]

I think my 6 on 80 kgs are good then ?

[@timrudd703]

Hi brother like the video I was wondering can you do that standing up instead of sitting and get the same affect? Thanks Tim

[@chriswilson5471]

Absolutely....even better actually. Lately most of my overhead pressing has been from a standing position....you can generate a ton of power and it makes it a better FULL body training experience:) CC

[@TheDeshaun21]

I did these on the smith machine but I knew u was doing something wrong. I was using to much weight and damn near killed myself. I going lower next time. Thanks

[@fredsalfa]

Was wondering what happend to this exercise as the last time I saw it was in the 90s !

[@Rocket9944]

I see this exercise ( behind neck press) done in my gym all the time, but tends to be guys over forty, i do standing behind neck press all the time, it's one if my favorites.

[@bundy4prez462]

So why not just do dumbbell presses and keep the neck straight?

[@jacquelinegraham7559]

Golden

[@Criticalbench]

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[@tonyslaughter8954]

I do pull down behind the neck very carefully. Everything old is new again!

[@Criticalbench]

Seriously, everyone is looking for the new tips and tricks when some of the older movements are key to new muscle growth

[@berner]

I like the Braford press

[@carlsbadtuber]

ARNALD SWIRTSINGGER LOVES THIS PRESS

[@josian5959]

Arnold swarzennegger and franco columbu did that exercise in the 70's

[@mannusingh1115]

Never caused me problems I did this for over 10 years. But gave my younger brother Cervical spondylitis so yes this is a dangerous exercise

[@Criticalbench]

Definitely use with caution. Sorry about your brother!

[@joseantoniomoch4006]

I use a 68lb barbell for this exercise. 5 sets-12reps daily. I feel I could easily go as high as 100lbs for this movement, but I consider that'd be risky. What do you think? Great video, I've watched it several times for the past few years!!

[@Criticalbench]

Behind the neck is definitely more likely to lead to neck and joint issues, especially if not done with perfect technique.I wouldn’t recommend this daily. It could lead to overuse in those muscles. Build the weight up gradually. Be sure to stretch your shoulders, pecs, and neck thoroughly before and after.

[@ramonpeters9608]

I'm guessing this is a movement to go light on...12-15 reps?

[@chriswilson5471]

Lighter would certainly be better to start...over time with the right additional movements/exercises to help strengthen the upper back, shoulders and chest you will be able to add more weight....I got good at these back in the 90s during college before everyone shifted to pressing from in front...saying too many injuries came from this exercise. CC

[@jackputnam8043]

I'm 42 & lost the flexibility to do exercises that happen behind the neck. HELP!!!

[@oliverelizalde]

Jack Putnam use a resistance band and look up resistance exercises for shoulders to do at the gym and home for increased shoulder mobility

[@Bicloptic]

It's hard to make the argument that since it worked for them, then it must be alright. We don't know if they were taking steroids or not. With that being said, I think it's good that you have educated the public so that they can be make an informed decision, as to how valuable this exercise is. Thank you.

[@Criticalbench]

+Bicloptic Thank you, exactly my point. An old exercise worth discussing since it was so widely used for decades. To each his own. It's like saying back squats are bad for your knees, so no one should do them. To each his own! CC

[@amasuku73]

When doing this exercise do arch your back or keep it straight

[@erics8524]

Andile Masuku how the hell am I suppose to know? I’m literally just watching this video like you....

[@dallascowboysnumber1fan]

I think keep striaght.

[@Atypical82]

Moderate weights, 8-12 reps, 4 sets

[@MrMakemusicmike]

can i do these standing?

[@emoe40]

+MrMakemusicmike Try them lying down that is much safer.

[@a68rebel]

Torn my shoulders more than once with this one. You MUST go very slow and use lighter weight with this exercise. Going heavy on this WILL injure you. Control the weight and go slow and you should get good results. Be careful with this one.

[@goatlps]

Do not do it, full stop. I did this for 2 years - the damage is permanent.

[@joseantoniomoch4006]

I do it standing- six sets of 12 reps each with a 71 lb. barbell

[@joseantoniomoch4006]

I do it standing- 6 sets of 12 reps each with a 71 lb. barbell.

[@jamesbaggett7223]

I do this with a Smith Machine and seldom go heavy. But I burn it up with high reps. It def warms my joints up for laterals

[@dallascowboysnumber1fan]

Why in the heck would u go heavy on behind the neck shoulder press, that is just dumb as hell bro,like who in there right mind would do that just saying.

[@youngbuck5926]

I screwed my shoulder with this excercise 15 years ago and I still haven't fully recover.

[@Criticalbench]

Sorry to hear that : (

[@iphonegamereview8373]

It’s try it’s abit dangerous I got an injury today

[@Criticalbench]

Definitely use with a lot of caution.

[@vigilhammer]

2:47 exercise begins

[@joelnorcross9625]

I used to do these back when I was 14 and never had any problems. Just don't put excessive weights on the bar.

[@Criticalbench]

+Joel Norcross Exactly. Thank you. CC

[@cristianjimenez8206]

Joel Norcross say that to kevin levrone... this guy is freak

[@Boxerman801]

you must have heavy weights to get big muscle. yo bro.

[@Shuyinz]

Yes! Even Legendary Dorian Yates said it's a good traps build exercise, but it's not really worth in a long term when it comes to have a healthy shoulder!

[@chriswilson5471]

Well, based on how I explain it, with lighter loads it still has value/merit. You can have both a healthy shoulder and do these...it depends on what other things you are or are not doing:) CC

[@MenacedAssassin]

I have a bad shoulder and would not recommend this exercise to anyone.

[@jerky10000]

I remember Ted Arcidi

[@meowlover1142]

My shoulders have never felt better.

[@Criticalbench]

Awesome!

[@therose7728]

You forgot something else it is proven to fix your posture as we'll. plus increases all your other exercise.

[@danielestores2475]

he said it though. good spine alignment i think he said that.. for me they are the same..

[@hendrixphish420]

2.49

[@DyNamo634]

pause at 0:17

[@tabasimriaz3954]

hahahhahaha how you spot that

[@zuliano9086]

Tabasim Riaz ???

[@eish007]

Can I use a smith machine for this

[@criceto]

+Eishpal Singh Mattu better don't do it.

[@MultiDatura]

Eishpal Mattu yes it works great.

[@say-cred]

after years of only front pressing.. i realized too late that working out your front delts without working out your rear delts is like working out your chest without working out your back.... BALANCE ppl!! n if u dont have the flexibility to work behind ur neck than GAIN IT,, what good is muscle without the range to put it to use?? okay kids now u know :))

[@goatlps]

Do this exercise for a long time and you won't even be able to raise your hands above your head. How's that for range of movement kids?

[@mossoconnor4417]

I love pressing behind the neck, but generally I will use a very light weight and do sets of 12+, and mostly I will do it standing with a semi snatch grip. Your side delts and mid and lower traps will be on fire. I like to do them light to just below the ears, or if I do them heavier I will just drop the weight from a little below lockout and catch it on my traps. People were calling them klokov presses for a while because of a video on Dimitri Klokov doing I think 225 for a bunch of reps and 275 or thereabouts for a singlets a part of his snatch warmup. If you are careful and have good shoulder mobility they are a great way to maintain it and grow wide, thick and powerful delts

[@heidikeller50]

Dips freak me out.

[@E1337Si]

i cant do this cause my man bun gets in the way :/

[@elrifle24]

Si W so change your gay hair style lol

[@kylemccarty5100]

The gayest comment I think I have ever seen on youtube.

[@Lotus-cu6hp]

@@elrifle24 😂🤣

[@Jimmy-tj2js]

people get injured doing this because they simply lack the mobility. Don't do this if you have crap mobility.

[@jordycabadas]

So the first 2.5 minutes of the video you talk about why it’s seen as negative and 10 seconds about how how it helps the medial delt and 2 Guys in the 80s used this exercises. Sounds good. There are better, safer workouts.

[@shernigz]

Just don't go too heavy. No reason for that

[@Criticalbench]

Explain 😊

[@joedimaggio3687]

People stay far away from this exercise. I screwed up my labrum muscle from doing it. It's not worth it.

[@Criticalbench]

Not every movement is for everyone 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@joedimaggio3687]

@@Criticalbench to lift weight from behind the neck is not a natural motion. I've been told this by top orthopedic surgeons.

[@jackcarter6629]

But AthleanX says don't do it, whine whine blah blah whine ...

[@xerxesx7x464]

@Strength In Ethics lmao, he is the most legitimate pt out there. From the start I watched his vids and never had any injuries or problems with the hardest exercises he carefully explains in his tutorials. I also solved an issue with my shoulder blade due to him. Athlean and Scott herman are the best channels imo

[@TheSlimmshadyy]

Most experts dont recommend it and for good reason.

[@nomadbound9610]

I like Jeff but he also says the muscle up is a bad exercise

[@nomadbound9610]

@@TheSlimmshadyy because most people who do it through WAY TOO MUCH WEIGHT on the bar and also use shit for form. you cant build performance and without form!!

[@TheSlimmshadyy]

@@nomadbound9610 some exercises simply are more prone to causing injury. Behind the neck press puts your shoulders in an extreme external rotation. Then you add weight to it and press from there. Not a good idea.

[@darrenanderson5260]

It doesn’t work shoulders

[@jackal8607]

Darren Anderson What? Lol yeah it does

[@ryuhadouken1404]

It should be forgotten; one of the most dangerous shoulder exercises ever.

[@johnrobinson4445]

It's 'forgotten' because it lacks efficacy and safety.

[@Criticalbench]

+John Robinson Again, I disagree with you. It became "unsafe" because people went too heavy and weren't also doing presses from the front of the body. BALANCE is the key. We do front squats and back squats for a more complete leg workout. If this movement bothers someone, they can either decrease the load or not do it in their routines. To label it unsafe or ineffective is just plain wrong. It's more of a personal preference issue. Thanks. CC

[@omaralkarnos4488]

+gentlemen59 search the advice from Doc. Jim stoppani on youtube and u will know how to do it on a safe way

[@chrissamson3013]

Then never lift your arms behind your head either idiot.

[@oscarstenberg2745]

The normal press was also forgotten for years

[@agentile7]

It's the most shoulder exercise that will promote growth, period!

[@younevakno]

coach chris, thats terrible for you.

[@emoe40]

This exercise is not a safe and FUNCTIONAL EXERCISE. what I mean by FUNCTIONAL, is that there is nothing in nature that you will do that involves this movement. If you were raising or lowering an overhead door you would not do it from behind your head would you? This is truly irresponsible to put this information out there. There is no evidence that this movement produce more power for weight lifters that used this movement.

[@Criticalbench]

+emoe40 Irresponsible to discuss an exercise that lifters used for decades? Now that's hilarious! You may not like this exercise and decide to avoid it at all costs but I will remind you that what works for some doesn't work for all. That's like saying doing a pull up to the rear of your neck is a total waste of time. Multiple angles are worthwhile if done correctly, safely and with moderate loads. I guess all the lifters from the 50s, 60s, 70s and 80s were just complete morons? CC

[@emoe40]

+Criticalbench You have the lemmings over the cliff attitude. I will say this, If you studied anatomy and physiology you would say that your argument is backed by science, but to justify your argument soley on the fact that people did it decades ago is a little moronic. If you look at the anatomy of the rear delt you would see the direction of the muscle fibers..OK? then understand that those fiber contract in that same direction which by the way is in a horizontal adduction movement. Nowhere in a behind the neck movement is that muscle moving the way it is supposed to. You should look soley at the functional movement of muscles to exercise them. Here is another common sense adage, If you are doing a movement (like the behind the neck press) and have to move a body part out of the way to get it done ,it is not a functional movement. Have you ever heard of any one hurting themselves on a front Lat pull down or Press? I'll hang up and listen for your answer.

[@chrissamson3013]

Actually people have carried loads on their shoulders and lifted them over their heads for thousands of years. Could you even try to be more wrong?

[@emoe40]

Having a load on your shoulders and doing a press behind the neck are two different movements. Chris Samson. there is nothing that you do in life that requires you to do that movement. I would advise you to take an anatomy class and you will understand what im saying. Just by your comment your to young to get into this fight . so just sit on the sided lines young lady.

[@emoe40]

Chris Samson ????

[@vengelohardmon3212]

I always incorporate it in my workout and I've never had a problem with my shoulders for over 20 years if you perform the exercise safely and correctly you'll be just fine Kevin levrone develope some of the best shoulders in bodybuilding from this particular movement as well as the legendary Lee Haney and thick Vic, Victor Richards

[@Criticalbench]

+Vengelo Hardmon Amen...some people just want to hate anything that was said to be "bad" for your body. So I guess we shouldn't do squats, deadlifts or bench press either :) CC

[@testostxronex3481]

+Criticalbench Can you help me? If so, add me on any social media

[@sharathkumar3599]

+Criticalbench sir,what are the advantages of this work out ?? will it also work on the lats,helps to build a broad shoulder ?? I'm a beginner, I was doing this exercise for a month.now I've stopped doing it,Caz my cousin told that it's dangerous and it's just like the front row military press.so,I'm doing only the front row military press, now

[@MrMakemusicmike]

can i do these standing?

[@lonnycartier.6203]

+MrMakemusicmike Yes. Try both and see which you like. I myself prefer sitting when I do shoulder presses. To me standing has a easy advantage cause I'm using my legs to press the bar where sitting dose not.